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Are people dying from Covid 19 or from reaction of wrong medicines? As whole world has become an experiment lab for corona virus and we are using trial and error method which is quite obvious for treating any new disease but how can we be so sure that virus is killing people and not reaction/negative effect of wrong medicine? We even don't know what exactly will be after effects of this virus.. Many other opinions are also being circulated now a days about any conspiracy by unknown corporates which I really don't understand such as people say organ trafficking will b boost behind this virus as others are not allowed to see dead body of corona patients or population control is the reason behind spreading this virus... Lol it's seems a joke to me but what you guys think about it, share your opinion... If your opinion doesn't match with given options , kindly share in comment/reply box. Thank you in advance guys for giving your time on this post ::)

People have decided to not die any longer from the lockdowns...

"We've been told that only 6 people are allowed to meet for Thanksgiving, but 30 for a funeral. With this, I announce that we will be holding a funeral for our pet turkey that will pass away on Nov. 26. Refreshments provided."

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well in the UK
you cant have breakfast with more then 6 people this month. but UK leader boris knows that more then 6 people can sit at a table at work. sooo.. boris had a 'breakfast' business meeting

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and now he has to self isolate because someone with covid had breakfast with him.
guess he learned the hard way not to try twisting the rules

trump couldnt get near groups of people indoors. soo. had a garden party..
he got covid and ended up needing oxygen and lots of medications.
hmm even covid denier realises its more then just a cough
guess he learned the hard way not to twist the rules

now he just plays golf by himself with everyone else standing at a distance

People are dying because of the other implications brought by the virus to their body, it will be just a simple virus to those healthier ones, I don't see any proof or studies that the medications has something to do with the death of others. If you would think, a lot of the survivors are treated with medications, those who died with it have other implications that is attacked by the virus.

It's almost normal here in my country even though the virus still infects other people, we just learned to live with the safety precautions impose by the officials, there are 2 leading vaccines as of now that are seen to be useful by 2020

From one end of the country to the other, people are rising up to defy the stupid pandemic rules. If government officials don't respond to the wishes of the people, government will be replaced... one way or the other.


"Burn That Mask! Burn That Mask!" - Huntington Beach Protesters March In Defiance... (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/294839-2020-11-23-burn-that-mask-burn-that-mask-huntington-beach-protesters-march.htm)




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yep people had enough of trump. he'll be gone by january
accept that fact. the wishes of the people, via votes of the nation have decided it

time for a change
you need to accept the wishes of the people not the wishes of trump

I've always heard of that 3rd option in the poll. I don't think that it is the reason and that's just a conspiracy that you'll see in the internet. There were stats that even not covid19 patients who died were recorded that they've died due to the virus.

There's discrepancy in data that were being sent to the high officials that broadcasts the situation of active cases and number of deaths.

I also thought that Covid-19 was made up or being used to kill or control the population,
But I haven't thought that it would/could be used to do a human organ trafficking.
Now that you say it I also think that it could be true since people who had been stated that died due to covid-19 should be cremated ASAP,
So we wouldn't know if they've taken some organ before he died.

LOL this is a good one maybe I would also use this excuse as well.

I think most of them died while taking some wrong medicine since the cure is not yet discovered and they have to undergo so many options including drinking alcohol at some point. It really happens to some countries when the Virus was in its early stage, there are lots of people taking medicine that hasn't been prescribed by the doctors some of them are harmful and some are not. In the southern part of the Philippines, people ate boiled eggs because of some kind of legends telling them to do so which is obviously not true at all.

in a certain amount of cases of covid deaths it was not that they got the wrong medication. it is that they are so elderly that they were already on a do not resuscitate order. meaning no intubation/ventilation.. meaning no 'wrong medication/treatment due to no medication/treatment aimed at helping fight covid' but just palliative care the ease the pain and strain.

this is shown in the majority that had a co-morbidity of 'dementia'

People are dying due to their weak immune system and actually there is no treatment was done by the hospital even if you are infected with covid 19, all they give is the medication needed to boost the immunity and help us to breath if there is difficulty in that apart from that they try to save themselves all the times. :D

Opinions are irrelevant. All that matters are facts.

the fact is that currently no one can be trusted...  :D
I do not know whether it is true or not, but many say that in many corona positive patients who die, the cause is kidney disease. the medicine that is given is too hard and can destroy the kidneys. cmiiw

Renal failure is common, but it is primarily due to septic shock, cytokine storm, hypoxia, and the general procoagulant state we see in COVID patients as opposed to having an iatrogenic cause. There is a risk of propofol infusion syndrome (which can cause renal failure) given that these patients are often on high doses of propofol for weeks at a time, but that is a very rare complication. I have seen no evidence that any standard drug treatment used in ICU is causing such high levels of renal failure in these patients.

Countries with little access to medication suffer as bad as 1st world countries. I don't think there's "bad medication" involved

I don't know how is it in other countries, but in my country there are no real medications available yet against the corona virus. People with severe symptoms are hospitalised and when it gets especially bad they are put on life support. Breathing machines are used by many ICUs and in some cases the patience need to put in a coma. Some people then have problems breathing again on their own after getting off life support,but this doesn't count as wrong medication.

Nonsense!

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Please share your opinion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5293632.0) in my new poll!

Neither of us knows the future. As it stands right now, because of the massive vote fraud, the Supreme Court will be judging the States to have one new vote each, and it will be the States that determine who will be President. All the old votes will be thrown out. The difference this time will be, because we understand the massive vote fraud, and how it works, ALL the states will be carefully watched to make sure that they don't cheat.

When this is done, Trump will win by a landslide.

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The truth is I don’t know what to believe anymore regarding the issues of Covid19 because over the months we have heard of different stories about the virus. Many says it’s from China so many Americans call it the Chinese virus. I personally have read many articles about the virus from different sources and they all saying a different thing, so I don’t know what to believe again!

If people are actually dying from Covid19 I don’t know how true it is because since the pandemic uptill now I don’t know of anyone who died of the virus. I mean I don’t know of anyone who knows anyone that knows anyone that has Covid19 but the government claims its real and billions of dollars where released for Covid19 funding. I honestly still don’t know what to believe but I only know our government as scams.

People are dying from all kinds of things, including medication. But nobody is sure that anybody is dying from Covid. I wouldn't want to go to the hospital these days. Loads of hospital workers don't really care about human life. All they want is a good time and a good paycheck.

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The stats for the covid-19 infections are rising every day and the current stats are almost equal to the ones which were at the peak time of covid-19 in April / June 2020 but no one is locked down this time and even if government are asking people to isolate themselves, no one is giving any importance at these notices. Most of the people have understand this drama and they won't stop their businesses this time.

U r 1000% correct. How can they give any other medicine to patients until they have exact formula for corona and we all know we don't hv curative medicine for corona. How can be people so dumb that they believe these experimental medicines won't have any side effect on patients. In my locality every1 is living normal life not quarantined but still why don't most of us got infected? Many unanswered questions make corona questionable.

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Corona will fill many agendas like to weaken common people, to strengthen medical agencies n corporates, to change economical graph of globe n to try to change equations among countries and many more + with this flowing wind (I don't know exact proverb for this  :'( ) of corona organ trafficking will also get a new boost bcz no one is allowed to touch or check the body.

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I believe there is much less effective virus which affects only severely ill people but wrong medication is gifting death to normally healthy people bcz we all know up till now we don't hv any medicine for corona but we r being experimented in hospitals...

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How come there are no news of any African presidents getting the virus? I have continuously asked myself this question and do not have an answer yet. Is it that Africans are secretive and not reporting it or the virus does not survive in Africa like in Europe or the Europeans are just making politics about the outbreak. It is this that have placed doubts about the virus in some people.

So far no cure for corona virus  medicine has been found in our country all the people are taking action as per the advice of the doctor in case of high fever and respiratory problems including social distance its prevalence is seen in the poorest countries of the world. Lack of money they could not take the advice of the doctor which resulted in the effects of such wrong drug reactions among them later and many people died most of the elderly patients are also affected by this mistake their immunity has already become very weak, they have an incurable disease and they have to take more than one medicine every day.

That isn't true -  Corona Viruses have been around since the 1930s and natural immunity has cured most of us through the epidemics and pandemics. It is different now because of changes in dietary and social habits, and an increase in destructive pharmaceuticals such as the 'flu vaccine. Government misinformation to ramp up the disease has caused further problems. For example, face masks do little to stop the spread of immunity, but they do increase the risk of re-infection, and this extends the recovery period, and creates the risk of a virus storm. Staying indoors to reduce vitamin "D" intake can block the creation of "T" cells producing antibodies in people who have already developed immunity.

There is more, and research into the so-called "long covid" raises some interesting questions about current pharmaceuticals.

I've been watching right-wing media lately and found this theory that "people died with covid, not because of covid."
They said the elderly would die naturally (because of old age), so when you hear that many older people died because of covid, you should ask: is it really because of Covid? How can you prove that they died because of covid, not because of, well, the time is up?

It must exist before you can die form it.
Like to see scientific proof (link) of its isolation not media propaganda.
Anyone disputing it is fee to provide a link, cough it up.
A test not made for virus dedection providing a positive result does not proof someone died because of a "virus".
And yes early one just about anyone who was put on ventilator died, fakt, wrong treatment.

https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=sars-cov-2%20microscopy

The drugs and vaccines developed during the virus period are carried out by going through many trial and error tests and continuing to work until a successful result. It is obvious that many people with the disease trigger their chronic ailments and make it feel permanent and long. I think people may be dying due to these permanent ailments, especially in certain age groups, this seems critical.

Its a decease so brutal, you actually have to test, to find out if you sick. A planed scamdemic.
Its so bad now they need to bribe people, pay $1500 to take the vaccine to have more sic.
Anyone taking the “mark of the beast” deserve it anyway.

I wish that were the case. Unfortunately, there are plenty of people who not only hold opinions that are in absolute contradiction to established facts, but also spread this misinformation and keep it in circulation. Which then, using CV19 as an example, leads to the mask-shunning freedom-warriors who help to keep R>1.

It's just so difficult to know who to believe! The global scientific community, each individual with years of education and experience, with solid evidence, randomized control trials, meta-analyses, the world's most cutting edge technology and equipment, who have literally examined this virus at the molecular level, or the high school drop outs who read a blog post and shared a YouTube video!

I mean, while we have isolated it, sequenced its genetic code, and are now modifying and reproducing parts of it, there are morons in this thread saying "Hurr durr does it even exist?"

So, how many doctors/researchers have isolated it? And how many are simply repeating what they heard from others. Has Fauci actually isolated it? Or is he simply telling us something, while some honest doctors are screaming, "No, no, Fauci's lying," but they can't be heard past Fauci's censoring of them.

I mean, with all your experience, you could get us a copy of the detailed wording of the study report where the actual sequencing has been properly done. Would it show the whole virus sequence? Would it include the test subjects that were injected to see if they would get sick?

What do you actually, really have, besides a bunch of blab?

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Right, because if you haven't observed something yourself, then there is no possible way it can be true, which is why you think the Bible is factual. Lmao.

Yes. Not just from a single sample. Or a couple of samples. Here is the complete viral genome for over 38,000 different isolated samples: https://www.viprbrc.org/brc/vipr_genome_search.spg?method=SubmitForm&decorator=corona&selectionContext=1607124677703

But the virus isn't even real, right? ::)

It's not as simple as that. Anybody can observe something and make a mistake about what he has observed. But if the observation hasn't been proven, there isn't any knowledge except by accident. There is only belief. Since there are various anomalies regarding Covid - PCR tests being used when they aren't made for this kind of usage, the lies about comorbidities, the lies about deaths that are attributed to Covid but are really caused by something else - we really need proof for the virus.

The Bible isn't about proof. The Ancient Hebrews were a race that lived to record many things that happened with their nation. You can study about them to see that they have strong tradition regarding Bible accuracy. This isn't proof, yet God doesn't ask that you have or show proof. Even Jesus said regarding His own resurrection, "Blessed is he who has not seen and yet has believed." But Jesus was talking about God. We are talking about a fake virus.



Thanks for the website. I like it. Is Covid listed in there? Where? Could you also go the next step, and show where the Covid report(s) listed in there have actual proof listed of the way that they were isolated... you know, not the statement that such and such process was used, but the research notebook step-by-step that shows the process being done, and all about it.

More important is the part that the tested substance came from a sick or dead subject, and that this isolated "stuff" was injected to test subjects, who then got sick. How sick were they? Did any of them die? Was a substance extracted from any them and isolated to be the same substance that was injected and supposedly made them them sick, and was the same substance that sickened or killed the first person? You know. Simple little proof.

Now I realize that if you can find such info, that such report, even signed, isn't proof in a court of law, until there are witnesses who attest under threat of perjury. But that's a step we can go to next, after we have a suggestion of proof.

But your link is fascinating stuff.

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So I push an 80 year old down a flight of stairs he dies cause he was old.
Then its not murder he was old his time was up.
Lets push every 80 year old down a flight of stairs.

That is the basic logic used in your example of right-wing media above.

So don't wear a mask break all the social distancing rules  and keep spreading the disease  so what if a person over 80 catches it and dies.

For that matter so what if they are 70

for that matter so what if they are 60

better yet so what if they are 40 but have diabetes.

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badecker. already dead at the bottom of the stairs. ..
.. he thinks he can then shoot back.. um. .. badecker your already dead.
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badeckers illogic and not understanding reality is funny.
many months ago someone said a scenario where a medical incident caused someones death.. he replied if it hapenned to him he would take them to court.
not realising he is dead already in that scenario. thus no BODY to stand in court and address his attacker.
because badecker does not believe in having representation

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if elderly people before getting covid. had a diagnoses that they had 5-10 years left if they continue as they are. and then suddenly they died within 3 weeks. then obviously something is up
then when looking at what the attributary cause of the sudden change was. where it was not a fall down the stairs, nor a car accident. but getting sick from covid that overwhelmed their body.. then guess what covid overwhelmed their body causing their death.
if they would have lived another 5-10 years if they didnt get covid. then its hard to ignore covid as the cause

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its like someone with osteoporosis(weak bones) where any hard impact will cause death.
if someone threw them down the stairs. the death would be attributed to being thrown down the stairs.
and the person that threw them down the stairs would be investigated as a murderer

it wouldnt be 'death by natural causes'

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Jesus said, "He that lives and believes in Me will never die." So, even if it appears that I am dead at the bottom of the stairs, I shoot back.

The point isn't to harm anyone. The point is to bring them to faith in Jesus so that they can never die as well.

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Notice that all of this is judgment calls. We don't have the technology available to determine exactly, for sure, what anybody died of.

20% Covid, 10% heart disease, 70% hospital operations. I mean, they were in the hospital, weren't they? And that doesn't even include what the hospital people did to cover up what really happened.

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I really wish all those people are are taking bribe to give vaccine or taking advantage from this covid-19 pandemic should get infected themselves so they know what it look like to be in such a situation. These people don't deserve to be called humans as their behavior is like animals.  >:(

No, it's maths and science, not an arbitrary pin-the-tail-on-the-cause-of-mortality.
You can work it out for yourself even if no cause of death is attributed... just look at the figures for excess mortality. 2020 has seen far far more deaths than usual. Something new is killing people. You can see from the chart below that the trend coincides with the Covid-19 pandemic. And if you go to the link, you can select other countries too, and see the same pattern repeated around the world.

https://i.imgur.com/rQCJ0RE.jpg
https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid

Now now. Don't go bringing actual facts and evidence to this discussion! Don't you understand? In this thread, we just make up the most ridiculous statements we can think of with zero facts, figures, evidence, or even common sense to back them up!

COVID is simultaneously not real but also man made
COVID is simultaneously not worse than the common cold and doesn't kill anyone but also is killing millions as part of a global eugenics/organ trafficking project
Wearing a mask simultaneously doesn't block any microbes and so is useless but also blocks all the microbes you exhale so you breathe them in again and become sicker

You get the idea! If anyone presents actual evidence, you just call them a government shill and make up an even more ridiculous statement. Isn't this fun!

It depends!

With the same stairs, you can try to push a kid, a teenager, and an adult. They felt nothing, well, perhaps their clothes got dirty. 99% of the time, the elderly also felt nothing serious.

True, it's a very unfortunate accident, and let's close the whole area because the stairs are dangerous.

People were afraid to go to the doctor/hospital, didn't do their routine health check?

Covid is Schrödinger’s Virus, the quantum superposition of not-real and man-made.  The superposition collapses to either state through observations of people voicing their opinions on the Internet.


Cite this as: NULLIUS. “Covid Decoherence.” Journal of Quantum Sociology, 13:37:0–∞, 2020, doi:NaN/NULL.

This advances prior research, in which I found that Covid was created (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5237225.0) by a nonexistent cat (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5282911.msg55458410#msg55458410) using powerful AI (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg55544274#msg55544274).

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Speaking as someone who has serious rational objections to many of the reactions to Covid, for my part, I do not appreciate the massive amounts of illogical and unscientific chatter about Covid.  It is not helpful.  So as for my “opinion”!

This is groundbreaking. How can I force the collapse to the "not-real" side when observing it in critically ill patients? We are on the verge of a cure here!

I'll handle this!

Quantum virus collapse is more properly considered as a state vector reduction. So, simply state: "vector reduction". Click your heels three times, too. This transports you to Copenhagen, where the Danish healthcare system will resolve everything. Just check the visitor list to make sure Dr Wigner hasn't got any "friends" visiting... those guys can send you right back into babbling indeterminacy. Speaking of which, I'll end the post there.

Damn! I lost a leg in an unfortunate boating accident. I tried clicking my heel against my peg leg, but I appear to still be firmly in Kansas.

SKAM ! :o

In Anatomy 101 class , they are supposed to teach you the difference between legs and arms .

I bet you also not knowing latest advances in quantum sociovirology .

People are dying from old age. Old age simply seems to be slightly younger in these days of Covid and its attempted cures.

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Error list of WHO

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Papaya got covid19 :'(

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both these linked conspiracies have been debunked in summer.. but lets go through them again as it seems some dont realise
the actual advice is to use certain codes for certain things.
EG 0.71 for confirmed covid va PCR
0.72 for unconfirmed
it also states that the 0.72 category should also note all details such as symptoms. and its this symptom list that then decides if its reasonable to assume as covid.
EG if someone is described as 0.72 but had a car accident and dies of brain injuries due to a collision. its not covid. even if the family say he crashed his car due to having a cough and fever when he travelled.

also hospitals are not funded based purely on a 0.71 or 0.72 listing.
i found this out in summer too and it took me only a few minutes.
separetely from a death certificate is the medical record. and its the medical record that lists all the treatments and procedures a doctor/nurse does with a patient. and its these procedures that are funded.
EG someone that does have an xray vs someone that doesnt have an xray causes different costs. even if their illness is the same and even if they both died of the same thing.

so no.. hospitals do not get auto-paid amounts just by a cause of death


the tanzanian president fired the team in the lab responsible for getting cheap unapproved 'knock off' test kits. the reason:
because tanzania was not getting high hospital admissions(meaning low cases) but was showing weird results from labs of positive cases randomly in different area's with no 'spread tracability'
meaning it looked like a lab was making false reports.
(virus spreads by people so you can usually see a pattern of a spread by who gets it and who they pass it too)
the president secretly tested the lab in question using items of known negative covid. and when results showed covid he knew the lab was faking results and fired those involved.
the president locked down the borders to stop new cases getting in

that following the border lockdowns (much like australia done) they managed to cut the cases down and hospitals didnt get overwhelmed

yes the tanzanian president much like the american president tried to use this event this year for personal profit. but that aside the government departments around him did try their best to lock the country down and close the borders. and it seemed to have worked. even when the president then went on a capitalist campaign

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maybe its best you try to research before just posting likes from your outdated and uninformed cultish conspiracy sites.

If the site is cultish n spreading rumours then why is it on internet!
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