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Title: Why so strict on members
Post by: justicebao on November 21, 2020, 09:16:42 AM
Is bitcointalk forum not about learning and sharing ideas anymore? My posts are removed and the posts are good enough, are admins going strict on members of the forum because of something else? Here is an example of a good post of mine but still removed and my account was ban for it, I know the difference between contributing posts and junk posts, what is going on? 

https://i.imgur.com/8xk7gO8.png


Title: Re: Why so strict on members
Post by: Findingnemo on November 21, 2020, 09:33:37 AM
Its rare to see account gets banned for spamming here so there could be another reason why your account got banned.When you are banned you are not allowed to discuss about anything other than your ban appeal.

That particular post on the screenshot is not enough to call it as spam until we see the thread from where it was deleted.


Title: Re: Why so strict on members
Post by: Rikafip on November 21, 2020, 10:03:04 AM
This was the original post in  topic where you wrote that deleted post from the screenshot:

Someone have to do this from time to time, I believe that many newbies are still victims to scam projects till this days, we gotta keep warning them, not all can be safe but as for those who want to learn, here you go

1. Learn to control your greed
2. Money making should come last, learning is the first thing to do
3. Do research on exchanges as there are many bad eggs among the good exchanges
4. Follow the crypto investment rule, don't invest more than you can afford to lose
5. Don't put all your eggs in one basket, diversity is the way of winners in crypto space

All the best.


And this is your answer on the 6th page of that topic. What you did basically is just paraphrasing/reiterating what's being said already, without adding almost anything new really. This is an epitome of a shitpost and it was deleted for a good reason.

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1. Learn first
2. Limit your risks by investing only the money you can afford to lose
3. Stay away from low rated exchanges because they have fake volumes
4. Keep your recovery seed and private keys very safe and don't store in cloud storages
5. Just like OP said diversification works best in crypto space
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5556/55566748.html


Title: Re: Why so strict on members
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on November 21, 2020, 10:10:03 AM
Is bitcointalk forum not about learning and sharing ideas anymore? My posts are removed and the posts are good enough, are admins going strict on members of the forum because of something else? Here is an example of a good post of mine but still removed and my account was ban for it, I know the difference between contributing posts and junk posts, what is going on? 

https://i.imgur.com/8xk7gO8.png

Why aren't you posting from your main account?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2650466

 And this is not the place for such a topic. Move it to "META"
In addition, I can't say that your post opened something new, probably someone complained about it. Try to write more productively.


Title: Re: Why so strict on members
Post by: hilariousandco on November 21, 2020, 10:58:52 AM
There's 40 of your posts reported for spam/one liners so I'm guessing that's why. Put more effort into your posts upon your return and you should be good.


Why aren't you posting from your main account?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2650466


He said it's banned.


Title: Re: Why so strict on members
Post by: Upgrade00 on November 21, 2020, 11:55:27 AM
There's 40 of your posts reported for spam/one liners so I'm guessing that's why.
I was thinking this; The forum is far from strict on its spam policy and users rarely get banned for it even if there a sticky on this in the Services board (IIRC). Users who spam the forum are usually given series of temporary bans, ranging from a few days to a month, to serve as a warning, and if they persist, a perma ban is issued. OP probably had enough time to correct the habit.

Put more effort into your posts upon your return and you should be good.
I assume the OP was banned temporarily in this case then. Hopefully, they heed the warning and change their habit. Effort is really all it takes to avoid such situations, some members do the barest minimum and usually join discussions only to meet their sig requirement.


Title: Re: Why so strict on members
Post by: Daniel91 on November 21, 2020, 12:54:42 PM
I have been a member of this forum for a long time and so far there has been no case of someone getting banned for a quality and constructive post.
I suggest you focus on the quality of your posts and consider whether you have any knowledge or experience that you can share with other members here.
Writing just to write or meet a quota for a signature campaign is not a good way to go.


Title: Re: Why so strict on members
Post by: FIFA worldcup on November 21, 2020, 01:41:25 PM
I assume the OP was banned temporarily in this case then. Hopefully, they heed the warning and change their habit. Effort is really all it takes to avoid such situations, some members do the barest minimum and usually join discussions only to meet their sig requirement.

The last post from that account TanakabZX (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2650466) was on Nov 09. So maybe he got temporary ban but when he will resume he should be careful because repeating the same mistake could make his account permanent ban too.


Title: Re: Why so strict on members
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on November 21, 2020, 07:30:06 PM
He said it's banned.
Permabanned?  If so, why is he still being allowed to post from this account?  Perhaps OP didn't include enough details about the ban, but I'm assuming permabanned members are still not allowed to create new accounts or has that changed? 

That post that got deleted was a shitpost, pure and simple, and it borders on plagiarism since it's basically just paraphrasing what the OP of that thread had written himself.  If you pull shit like that, don't come crying to the mods that your post got nuked.

Writing just to write or meet a quota for a signature campaign is not a good way to go.
It isn't, but that's what motivates the majority of members here and it's not going to change until sig campaigns/bounties are eliminated, and last I heard Theymos has no intention of doing away with them.


Title: Re: Why so strict on members
Post by: FIFA worldcup on November 21, 2020, 08:29:31 PM
He said it's banned.
Permabanned?  If so, why is he still being allowed to post from this account?  Perhaps OP didn't include enough details about the ban, but I'm assuming permabanned members are still not allowed to create new accounts or has that changed? 

He's must be temp. banned as hilariousandco said to put more efforts upon return. Secondly, even if he was permanent banned, he is allowed to make another account and ask anything related to his ban in meta, he did exactly that here.


There's 40 of your posts reported for spam/one liners so I'm guessing that's why. Put more effort into your posts upon your return and you should be good.




Title: Re: Why so strict on members
Post by: JeromeTash on November 21, 2020, 08:41:25 PM
That post that got deleted was a shitpost, pure and simple, and it borders on plagiarism since it's basically just paraphrasing what the OP of that thread had written himself.  If you pull shit like that, don't come crying to the mods that your post got nuked.
Yeah, he tried to spin the text but It's an example of plagiarism. He's even lucky that the account got a temporary ban. I wonder where he gets the audacity to complain yet he very well knew what he did. It could have easily been a permanent ban IMO.


Title: Re: Why so strict on members
Post by: Csmiami on November 21, 2020, 10:02:37 PM
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He didn't actually open a thread about his ban in Meta... He opened a thread to complain about one post getting deleted, and also mentioned that his other account was banned.

I was also going to comment same way The Pharmacist did, but considering his only post had been in Meta, and was slightly related to the ban... Depends on the flexibility we want to give him.

BPIP didn't show the other account as banned, so it must've been a temp one


Title: Re: Why so strict on members
Post by: Rikafip on November 21, 2020, 10:10:51 PM
I wonder where he gets the audacity to complain yet he very well knew what he did. It could have easily been a permanent ban IMO.
It's funny how many times we saw the similar scenario. Shitposter/bounty abuser comes complaining about "unfairly deleted posts" or negative tag and then someone digs few of their alts, a little bit of plagiarism and occasional ban evading. Every time they open their mouth they dig their hole a little bit deeper.

They are truly their own worst enemies. Or to put it in trading terms, they should learn to cut their losses.


Title: Re: Why so strict on members
Post by: Stalker22 on November 21, 2020, 10:28:35 PM
They are truly their own worst enemies. Or to put it in trading terms, they should learn to cut their losses.

They may have been tired of cuting their losses? This is probably his fifteenth account to be banned.  :D


Title: Re: Why so strict on members
Post by: Redirexrs on November 24, 2020, 04:09:34 AM
Is bitcointalk forum not about learning and sharing ideas anymore? My posts are removed and the posts are good enough, are admins going strict on members of the forum because of something else? Here is an example of a good post of mine but still removed and my account was ban for it, I know the difference between contributing posts and junk posts, what is going on? 

https://i.imgur.com/8xk7gO8.png


I've been lurking this forum since ~2012, made an account once but never actually used it, now I've made a new one (this one) because I've started my website (working on papers to have it officially registered) and wanted to implement btc into my website as a mean of payment.

Now that you know that I'm not a newbie, I'll tell you about your post. I'd consider that post useless because the beginner section is nothing else but an echo chamber. Same questions and same answers that could have been given with the simple google search. Based on your post, I'd say that the whole topic was pointless and was overflown with spam, one line answers and those same answers I've been reading for the past 8 years.

Shitposting in newbie section won't get you anything.


Title: Re: Why so strict on members
Post by: Mpamaegbu on November 25, 2020, 05:14:18 AM
https://i.imgur.com/oz5WcIX.png

I am still wondering why the OP's account still reads zero post and zero activity even when there's still this post on. Can anyone explain this, please?


Title: Re: Why so strict on members
Post by: Findingnemo on November 25, 2020, 05:29:59 AM


I am still wondering why the OP's account still reads zero post and zero activity even when there's still this post on. Can anyone explain this, please?
Op's account got nuked and that is the reason why zero post and zero activity. But when the account got nuked all their posts are supposed to be trashed right? Or their post still remains same as how the case of plagiarist account like their account only will be banned but their post still remains?


Title: Re: Why so strict on members
Post by: jademaxsuy on November 25, 2020, 07:32:29 AM


I am still wondering why the OP's account still reads zero post and zero activity even when there's still this post on. Can anyone explain this, please?
Op's account got nuked and that is the reason why zero post and zero activity. But when the account got nuked all their posts are supposed to be trashed right? Or their post still remains same as how the case of plagiarist account like their account only will be banned but their post still remains?
So, this newly account created is being nuked and that is why OP can't respond now. We do not know the reason for this but I guess admin has a good reason for doing this. Of course no one will going to allow any user to make activities that disrespected the forum. Well, they are doing their job and that is we should remember that if you ever put your shoe in their shoe having 2.8M registered users and only few of them are managing the forum section would be a huge task to be done. Even the moderators itself here have expressed that they had a load of work to moderate every shit posts being done by the users in the forum.


Title: Re: Why so strict on members
Post by: Pmalek on November 25, 2020, 11:19:44 AM
So, this newly account created is being nuked and that is why OP can't respond now. We do not know the reason for this but I guess admin has a good reason for doing this.
OP is not nuked. Nuked members get their posts deleted. justicebao still has this post, and you can find it from his profile. His original account - TanakabZX (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2650466) is also not nuked. You can see that his signature is still there. When members get banned, their signatures are removed.

Maybe it's just a caching issue or a bug that caused his post count not to have gone up to 1.


Title: Re: Why so strict on members
Post by: Findingnemo on November 25, 2020, 12:12:51 PM
Maybe it's just a caching issue or a bug that caused his post count not to have gone up to 1.
From my observation if there is such kind of mis count in the post and activity which will get resolved in next few hours but here the thing remain same for almost a day I guess. Some kind if exception or new bug?


Title: Re: Why so strict on members
Post by: Kunotcoin on November 25, 2020, 01:27:41 PM
Is bitcointalk forum not about learning and sharing ideas anymore? My posts are removed and the posts are good enough, are admins going strict on members of the forum because of something else? Here is an example of a good post of mine but still removed and my account was ban for it, I know the difference between contributing posts and junk posts, what is going on?  

https://i.imgur.com/8xk7gO8.png

I think the people behind the BitcoinTalk forum (administrators) were just doing their job to make this forum more useful and less spammy and it doesn't mean that it was so strict. the new rule was in effect thats why we must obey it.


Title: Re: Why so strict on members
Post by: Pmalek on November 25, 2020, 01:38:41 PM
From my observation if there is such kind of mis count in the post and activity which will get resolved in next few hours but here the thing remain same for almost a day I guess.
In my experience, it gets updated pretty fast as well. However there seem to be some exceptions that happen from time to time. A long time ago I had something like that happen to me after a post in Meta. My post count just didn't update to show that new post, and I can't remember having another of my posts deleted that might have caused the post count to stay the same.

The post count can sometimes get messed up if a user's post/thread gets moved to the trashcan. But that is not the case here with OP.


Title: Re: Why so strict on members
Post by: Findingnemo on November 26, 2020, 06:50:54 PM
Still I can only see zero post count and zero activity, is it time for the admin to clarify it ir someone already found what's wrong here?

Anyone facing post count problems in the past two days?


Title: Re: Why so strict on members
Post by: Lordhermes on November 27, 2020, 06:02:50 AM
Maybe it's just a caching issue or a bug that caused his post count not to have gone up to 1.
From my observation if there is such kind of mis count in the post and activity which will get resolved in next few hours but here the thing remain same for almost a day I guess. Some kind if exception or new bug?
I'm just having a thought that newly registered accounts now counts their activity after a biweekly addition of 14 posts, maybe that could be the reason why there's no reflection of activity and post on the op.
Is bitcointalk forum not about learning and sharing ideas anymore? My posts are removed and the posts are good enough, are admins going strict on members of the forum because of something else? Here is an example of a good post of mine but still removed and my account was ban for it,
Afaik, no users have been ban for spamming, your comments was good but was shown to have been plagiarized and paraphrased from another users comments which is against the rules. Sit up next time dude and have a good comments on your own.


Title: Re: Why so strict on members
Post by: Findingnemo on November 27, 2020, 06:39:57 AM
Maybe it's just a caching issue or a bug that caused his post count not to have gone up to 1.
From my observation if there is such kind of mis count in the post and activity which will get resolved in next few hours but here the thing remain same for almost a day I guess. Some kind if exception or new bug?
I'm just having a thought that newly registered accounts now counts their activity after a biweekly addition of 14 posts, maybe that could be the reason why there's no reflection of activity and post on the op.
I don't think there is any exception to the new accounts for the newbies, posts and activities gets added up and only 14 activity get added only once in 14 days and the next 14 will be added on the next cycle.


Title: Re: Why so strict on members
Post by: Csmiami on November 27, 2020, 11:06:00 AM
I don't think there is any exception to the new accounts for the newbies, posts and activities gets added up and only 14 activity get added only once in 14 days and the next 14 will be added on the next cycle.
Posts are added after every post, activity is the only one that is dependant on the 14 day cycle; but brand new accounts generally rank up to newbie after a few hours of their first post, so something is with the cache is happening here (I think)


Title: Re: Why so strict on members
Post by: friends1980 on November 29, 2020, 12:20:05 PM
Based on the title, I was expecting an interesting discussion about the rules on the forum and about the way in which they are (or are not) implemented and applied, about their strictness etc.

Sadly, it's just another shitposter complaining about his posts being reported.

Friendly suggestion: remove the last 5 characters of your Subject title and change it to "Why so strict on me"...

Meanwhile, I'm always in the mood for a discussion about the rules, but I think it's going well atm and I'm under the impression that there's a bit less spamming than before (in spite of the current BTC price). Or maybe it's just because of the fact that I haven't been in the Altcoin boards very often lately...