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Tnx for your reply i am talkimg on sports bets casino is not my realy thing i have enough bonuses from stake i really dont need to promote them (= just  help people to find good place to put there sports bet even of there are winners

Hi every one i am high roller gambler for long time i was on nitrogen for 2 years and find stake and play there now for 1 year, now i will tell you what i think
Nitrogen
Withdraw not instant but take 2 3 hours
Bonuses very lame to be honest, low nees rolls and this kind of shit
Fair site this i can sure you that your money is safe
I most of the time from phone and there site really not comfortable
Limit on bets if in stake i can bet 12k on game in there site its give e me 500$ max on low league
Support talk to you with emails wtf why not send us a Pigeon??

Stake
Withdraw instant you see the.the money in your wallet
Good site from phone very understanding akots of bets and live bets
Bonuses, what I love in stake no matter if you win or lose you get bonus every bet on sport worth you money every week
You have daily bonuses has well and monthly stake smile for winners he not limit them and i saw some bets with  200k, like  i say the limit very high in bets
You talk with support 24/7
So for me i respect nitrogen and ita was nice home to me but i dont have good reasons to come back
I know more than 5 high rollers that move from nitrogen to stake, i am not earning from this post, just if you gambler you get much much more on stake.

I guess times changes already, before I heard a lot of good feedback for Nitrogensports but now news sites have already surpass their popularity.

We really can't help it because it was just funny that a "whale" like you come back into the forum after 5 months and then shill for Stake and even tell that there are "5 high rollers that move from nitrogen to stake". And then we have the Stake signature campaign coming back? Probably it was just all coincidence  ;D.

Thanks for your valuable feedback anyways.

Well, most people do know on how Nitrogen did really slapped down its reputation and popularity in to the floor.We cant deny that this one is the one of the most

known bookies for some years but due to some shady circumstances and lack of some service or shall we say didnt really that perform well plus having some worst

odds then theres no doubt that people will really find another home for them to make bets.This time you had mentioned Stake which i havent tried to do so since

ive been playing in sportsbet instead but i might try later on.  :D

Nitrogen needs to wake up as the reality is a lot of gambling casinos are now competitive with their features.
If they will not improve their services, their popularity will really go downhill.
They need to realize that they are not alone in this business, a lot are now trying to get their share in the market.
But it is good to read some insights from a high roller, I'm just a small time player here.  ;)

Nitrogen needs to wake up as the reality is a lot of gambling casinos are now competitive with their features.
If they will not improve their services, their popularity will really go downhill.
They need to realize that they are not alone in this business, a lot are now trying to get their share in the market.
But it is good to read some insights from a high roller, I'm just a small time player here.  ;)

Therefore stake is better than nitrogensports? How come that nitrogensports which one of the most popular betting site in this forum before that gives quality payment as well as services turned into an inconvenient sports betting site.

We really can't help it because it was just funny that a "whale" like you come back into the forum after 5 months and then shill for Stake and even tell that there are "5 high rollers that move from nitrogen to stake". And then we have the Stake signature campaign coming back? Probably it was just all coincidence  ;D.

Thanks for your valuable feedback anyways.

So for me i respect nitrogen and ita was nice home to me but i dont have good reasons to come back
I know more than 5 high rollers that move from nitrogen to stake, i am not earning from this post, just if you gambler you get much much more on stake.

I do believe that this would actually be very beneficial for the casinos if they do see it positively if nitrogen improves their negatives they would eventually be favoured in the long run.

Nitrogen is a actually good and trusted and I do know many people who won't leave it even with the negative experience, they have to understand that people trust them a lot and they have to improve it.

Stake on the other hand is more private and instant deposits and withdrawal is something that I personally find very important.

*_*_*_*

This post have actually prompted reviews from the users I do think the casinos should go through it.

Coincidence happen a lot these days mate and this one might be one of them  8).

But OP, you are right, betting in Nitrogen on mobile phone is not convenient (al least for me), does Stake has an App for their site that is user friendly?    

Why not Sportsbet if it is sports you are aiming at?  ;D
Just my opinion.
It has good UI and also smartphone friendly. I had no problem with them from day 1.
Withdrawals are also cheap.

Hate its big word my firend they just send me emails all day to come back at their site but still dont realized that they are far behind thats all

Is this for real? I'm curious how it looks like when they're asking for a gambler to comeback to their casino. This is likely the first time to see that they are sending email to their former customer. Or you're talking about the email that are updates and notifications which is being made automatically and being sent to all of their registered users. But if that's a personal email for you, what does the email contains if it's fine for you to share it here.

Stake definitely is the a more popular bookies now, that's my observation for being active in the forum.
There was a poll somewhere in the forum and bettors has to vote for the best sportsbook and it was sportsbet who had most votes.

Hi every one i am high roller gambler for long time i was on nitrogen for 2 years and find stake and play there now for 1 year, now i will tell you what i think
Nitrogen
Withdraw not instant but take 2 3 hours
Bonuses very lame to be honest, low nees rolls and this kind of shit

Fair site this i can sure you that your money is safe
I most of the time from phone and there site really not comfortable
Limit on bets if in stake i can bet 12k on game in there site its give e me 500$ max on low league
Support talk to you with emails wtf why not send us a Pigeon??

Stake
Withdraw instant you see the.the money in your wallet
Good site from phone very understanding akots of bets and live bets
Bonuses, what I love in stake no matter if you win or lose you get bonus every bet on sport worth you money every week
You have daily bonuses has well and monthly stake smile for winners he not limit them and i saw some bets with  200k, like  i say the limit very high in bets
You talk with support 24/7
So for me i respect nitrogen and ita was nice home to me but i dont have good reasons to come back
I know more than 5 high rollers that move from nitrogen to stake, i am not earning from this post, just if you gambler you get much much more on stake.

Is this for real? I'm curious how it looks like when they're asking for a gambler to comeback to their casino. This is likely the first time to see that they are sending email to their former customer. Or you're talking about the email that are updates and notifications which is being made automatically and being sent to all of their registered users. But if that's a personal email for you, what does the email contains if it's fine for you to share it here.

Definitely, Stake.com is a very popular platform they have an active signature campaign here, they never rest their laurel they know that a signature campaign can help boost their popularity.
And correct me if I'm wrong I have not seen Nitrogen create a campaign here although they have been online for a long time, I don't know if they already have, they should launch one now.

We all have our own likes in terms of gambling sites. Even if you are right you shouldn't need to post about nitrogen you can just promote the stake without degrading the NitrogenSports we know that the competition in terms of features are very high right now.

ya.ya.yo!

We all have our own likes in terms of gambling sites. Even if you are right you shouldn't need to post about nitrogen you can just promote the stake without degrading the NitrogenSports we know that the competition in terms of features are very high right now.

ya.ya.yo!

They have a signature campaign before.

★★★ NITROGENSPORTS.EU Signature Campaign ★★★ 
 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1689841.0)

It even lasted for awhile, so they are not new in signature campaign, who knows they might start again under a new campaign manager.

Thanks for making me aware but that was two years ago, there are new gamblers coming in, and even if they established their name in the industry, they should keep up the promotion, the gambling industry is now very competitive, gamblers are on the look for a better one and OP has done that, how about the others, who quietly making a shift, they could be a major shakeup in the coming years where those on the bottom will become industry leaders, because of the upgraded features and promotion.

I respect all sportsbooks that have stayed around for years and as OP points out,,, every bookie has their pros and cons. For me the most important no matter what else is Customer Support. Everyone knows that at some point, we will face an issue with our accounts or our gaming. Maybe a glitch. Or a lost account. Or a mistaken deposit. This is when the real test happens, how helpful Customer Support is and how nice they treat you.

So in this case, I can only speak of very few sites because I cannot really say until I have my own experience.

Hate its big word my firend they just send me emails all day to come back at their site but still dont realized that they are far behind thats all

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I do like both of those platforms but yes Nitrogen have some disadvantage on their website, well they might realize it soon and I've seen that they keep updating and updating their website in no time they can catch up on some newer bookies we have let's just give them time to improve.

This is what gambling site needs the constructive criticism in which healthy topic to discuss.

Imagine High roller like OP is giving His fair view in comparing these 2 so what more those small gamblers that suffers from this uncertainties ?

Maybe this is a Good eye opener that if we are not having good experience in each site we enters,better leave and find another one.

This is our money to lose so lets look for best services.

Nitro member 1530. Stake by a landslide. Don’t mind my banner. I just joined Stake 3 months ago lol.

I respect all sportsbooks that have stayed around for years and as OP points out,,, every bookie has their pros and cons. For me the most important no matter what else is Customer Support. Everyone knows that at some point, we will face an issue with our accounts or our gaming. Maybe a glitch. Or a lost account. Or a mistaken deposit. This is when the real test happens, how helpful Customer Support is and how nice they treat you.

So in this case, I can only speak of very few sites because I cannot really say until I have my own experience.

Yes man personal email from there vip about terms i can get ant its long talk wirh me and them

You right but i dont love casino that give me bonus with 10 rolls for withdraw i bet big money, and in stake all bonuses go to your account free no need rolls no need anything and to be honest much much high than nitrogen

I don't mind OP's thoughts about Nitrogen as that his own experience. But he didn't play for long on Nitrogen now as he's currently playing in Stake for a year now. A year comparison might not be relevant as who knows Nitrogen already did some improvements along the way. And others should refrain from throwing some bad comments at Nitro if they don't use the site recently. I also don't use Nitrogen for I think months now but I'm not in the place to say that they have a bad service.

I like Stake, I like Nitro, just stay with the site that we think we are comfortable with. Like me, I'm on Sportsbet now, way better at my own view compare to Stake and Nitrogen but I won't compare each of their services. It's just that, Sportsbet gives me the best features that I'm looking for.

I don't mind OP's thoughts about Nitrogen as that his own experience. But he didn't play for long on Nitrogen now as he's currently playing in Stake for a year now. A year comparison might not be relevant as who knows Nitrogen already did some improvements along the way. And others should refrain from throwing some bad comments at Nitro if they don't use the site recently. I also don't use Nitrogen for I think months now but I'm not in the place to say that they have a bad service.

I like Stake, I like Nitro, just stay with the site that we think we are comfortable with. Like me, I'm on Sportsbet now, way better at my own view compare to Stake and Nitrogen but I won't compare each of their services. It's just that, Sportsbet gives me the best features that I'm looking for.

Hello:

I'm one of the sups, not a manager. In addition to that, your account shows no action since December, 2019, so the bonus given was not a lossback, but a courtesy credit for $8K. And yes, we offered you a much, much higher lossback deal and other benefits that you decided not to take. I understand that you may like Stake better, but what you are stating is a bit inaccurate.

You need to understand the post not beacose of me its show the deferent between nitrogen to stake read and respond to the list all the things i say i am right, and to you 8000$ bonus with 10 rolls must and max bet you gave me is 400 500 is trush but we here to talk about how nitrogen can compare the lidt i made  you more than welcome to say your opinion about that

Nice comparison but it will not change my opinion. The Stake team has done many things for completing the steps toward the perfect sports betting bookies but Nitrogen still lacks many available betting features for pro bookies. I didn't use Nitrogen for 8 months but have made many bets on Stake since the first quarter of the current year. The final choice is Stake due to the mentioned reasons but I miss the days when I was betting on the Bet365 or Bwin. The second to none live betting features are not available on both crypto-based gambling bookies, unfortunately.

People have been saying that staking is the one that brings the cake in and indeed it is. Especially if on thwt day only a few people wtihdraw their daily commissions, you can easily bring in good money in that manner. Too bad almost all new coins have a staking feature which takes the originality off but yeah.

That's most likely the result, OP should put some voting poll.. By the way, where did you get that banner or signature?

I have seen some referral code on it, do they have a good referral system?

The same as Stake. 0.3% of every wager made.

We really can't help it because it was just funny that a "whale" like you come back into the forum after 5 months and then shill for Stake and even tell that there are "5 high rollers that move from nitrogen to stake". And then we have the Stake signature campaign coming back? Probably it was just all coincidence  ;D.

Thanks for your valuable feedback anyways.

Why in all gambling site you made the comparison between this two,this sounds like a joke  :D

Stake.com is one of the pioneering gambling site and faces only isolated reputation but always addressing the issue.

Nitrogen also old site but has though there are no big accusation yet there are some in the past ,

but i believe all the issues are isolated and not really a violation or something that we can think of fishy.

maybe this is good topic so the management of both gambling site is aware of these things happening inside their backyard.

I've read about short descriptions about this sites but i got discourage when they require KYC. But seeing this now i'll probably try Stake because it has more benefits than Nitrogen.
Having an honest review like this makes it much more easier than scanning through the internet reading bias promotions of both sites.

Why in all gambling site you made the comparison between this two,this sounds like a joke  :D

This is a good promotion for Stake.com I can't blame OP because old gamblers really do make a comparison from every gambling site that they are playing to another gambling site that they are also playing, it's actually good for gambling sites that they get a comparison, so they know what to improve on their platform.
I hope Nitrogen find this thread and comments and improve their platform, or they will find themselves next to Stake.com in standing.

Max we not here to talk about bonus and rolls man in stake you saw game that your max limit is 400$ in stake was 12000$
Please answer to the list i made you, you from vip support of nitrogen how your site can upgrade there site

Like i said if nitrogen will update there site and be like stake i am sure gamblers maybe will come back to them but right now i dont see how

You need to understand the post not beacose of me its show the deferent between nitrogen to stake read and respond to the list all the things i say i am right, and to you 8000$ bonus with 10 rolls must and max bet you gave me is 400 500 is trush but we here to talk about how nitrogen can compare the lidt i made  you more than welcome to say your opinion about that

Actually other players may bring also their experiences not only in these 2 Sites Stakes and Nitrogen but also those other gambling site that makes their Players suffer.

This maybe important for Nitrogen but I'm sure there are also other sites with similar situation.

But of course just give criticism like this with no Hatred and foul Words using.

If there's an evidence that a certain site is scamming its gamblers, I think it's just appropriate to say bad words to them as they have no room to make money here while scamming people. Crypto gambling is getting popular due to increasing number of good sites that caters gambler, so as a gambler, we have to help and protect that so the market will grow.

Hi every one i am high roller gambler for long time i was on nitrogen for 2 years and find stake and play there now for 1 year, now i will tell you what i think
Nitrogen
Withdraw not instant but take 2 3 hours
Bonuses very lame to be honest, low nees rolls and this kind of shit
Fair site this i can sure you that your money is safe
I most of the time from phone and there site really not comfortable
Limit on bets if in stake i can bet 12k on game in there site its give e me 500$ max on low league
Support talk to you with emails wtf why not send us a Pigeon??

Stake
Withdraw instant you see the.the money in your wallet
Good site from phone very understanding akots of bets and live bets
Bonuses, what I love in stake no matter if you win or lose you get bonus every bet on sport worth you money every week
You have daily bonuses has well and monthly stake smile for winners he not limit them and i saw some bets with  200k, like  i say the limit very high in bets
You talk with support 24/7
So for me i respect nitrogen and ita was nice home to me but i dont have good reasons to come back
I know more than 5 high rollers that move from nitrogen to stake, i am not earning from this post, just if you gambler you get much much more on stake.

Like i said if nitrogen will update there site and be like stake i am sure gamblers maybe will come back to them but right now i dont see how

I know more than 5 high rollers that move from nitrogen to stake, i am not earning from this post, just if you gambler you get much much more on stake.

Hi every one i am high roller gambler for long time i was on nitrogen for 2 years and find stake and play there now for 1 year, now i will tell you what i think
Nitrogen
Withdraw not instant but take 2 3 hours
Bonuses very lame to be honest, low nees rolls and this kind of shit
Fair site this i can sure you that your money is safe
I most of the time from phone and there site really not comfortable
Limit on bets if in stake i can bet 12k on game in there site its give e me 500$ max on low league
Support talk to you with emails wtf why not send us a Pigeon??

Stake
Withdraw instant you see the.the money in your wallet
Good site from phone very understanding akots of bets and live bets
Bonuses, what I love in stake no matter if you win or lose you get bonus every bet on sport worth you money every week
You have daily bonuses has well and monthly stake smile for winners he not limit them and i saw some bets with  200k, like  i say the limit very high in bets
You talk with support 24/7
So for me i respect nitrogen and ita was nice home to me but i dont have good reasons to come back
I know more than 5 high rollers that move from nitrogen to stake, i am not earning from this post, just if you gambler you get much much more on stake.

I had 2 now they stop playing but i made in 9 months from them 23k
I dont know how to put here photo to show that

This is a well known fact. Stake is developed in such cases a way to attract all levels of gamblers. Nitrogen is good for the sports betting where you get access to pay with cryptocurrencies and other means of payment. Stake provides good rakeback for the high rollers which is something very impressive. Stake is developed after the popular primedice, which means they've well known and understood the user requirements and developed stake.com

I remember primedice, it was the first crypto dice site that I played with. And really impressive that they sustain their presence in the crypto market, where most of its contemporaries exited when btc took a downward tun. So with their long experience in the gambling industry, they really do know how to keep their players happy and they applied it to stake as well. Not a high roller, so didn't experience most of what the OP described. But it is a good insight coming from a high roller's perspectives.

I know Stakes or even Nitrogen is doing hard to satisfy their players and so they will coming back again and again.
Well, I know that we all have different preferences in terms of gambling experience and we choose those site that we feel and think that safeguard us. Some also had a bad experience to any of them makes them think about leaving and finding a new one better and maybe that OP has that kind of experience.

Which one required KYC ? I have accounts on both sites and no KYC so far usually it only becomes a requirement if you violated the terms and conditions or play with high stakes.

It's a good comparison since Nitrogen was like the go to bitcoin sportsbook back then and on the other side you have a recently launched sportsbook that's providing a better experience. You're right both have good reputation but once you've played on both sites you can't avoid the thought of making a comparison between them.

I know Stakes or even Nitrogen is doing hard to satisfy their players and so they will coming back again and again.
Well, I know that we all have different preferences in terms of gambling experience and we choose those site that we feel and think that safeguard us. Some also had a bad experience to any of them makes them think about leaving and finding a new one better and maybe that OP has that kind of experience.

Stake has some bad limits on e-sports which is the only bad thing about them apart from that they have almost everything covered from bonuses to support and a friendly chat managed well by the moderators to avoid any kind of spam.

Yeah, true but one thing that makes me feel ballistic is why the user is asked to provide verification once they win big, I mean while he was losing big he won't be asked for any kind of verification but just because he wins something significant the website wants to wastes no chance and ask verification just to make sure that if there is a chance to gobble his money, they shall do so.

I love how nitrogen provides a good price in the line as i often see stake cannot compete about this one, poor odds at stake.

I remember primedice, it was the first crypto dice site that I played with. And really impressive that they sustain their presence in the crypto market, where most of its contemporaries exited when btc took a downward tun. So with their long experience in the gambling industry, they really do know how to keep their players happy and they applied it to stake as well. Not a high roller, so didn't experience most of what the OP described. But it is a good insight coming from a high roller's perspectives.

Stake is clearly beating Nitrogen in many aspect, and this is not good for Nitrogen they should check the comparison and tried to upgrade the features that the gamblers think other gambling sites are beating them, if they are not going to do that they will lose more customers and until they find themselves in the bottom.

Stake is clearly beating Nitrogen in many aspect, and this is not good for Nitrogen they should check the comparison and tried to upgrade the features that the gamblers think other gambling sites are beating them, if they are not going to do that they will lose more customers and until they find themselves in the bottom.

Thanks for sharing the info. I am playing on stake for three years now and I can definitely say indeed, stake has some outstanding features that differentiate itself from others. The bonuses are great and community is user friendly. The chat is also nice, and you can feel like a home there. Rains etc as well. And the stake forum is good too. I haven't tried Nitrogen but I can definitely say the good stuff for stake.

stake is far better than most sportsbooks and only sportsbet.io comes close if I am asked to compare.

Therefore stake is better than nitrogensports? How come that nitrogensports which one of the most popular betting site in this forum before that gives quality payment as well as services turned into an inconvenient sports betting site. It only means that whatever popular today may encounter a fall in future. Now I understand why their activity for promotion and advertising goes slowly. Users will probably turn into other good betting and casino sites because they have the problem within their services.

It is not rare at all for a company that was at the top to no longer have that position if they take their position for granted, and this is especially true when it comes to casinos, after all we know the competition is fierce and that your competitors are always looking for a way to surpass you since that means a lot more money for them, and if the casino at the top is unable to keep up or think that players are going to keep playing there out of habit then they are mistaken as players are always looking for the best platform and bonuses they can possible get.  

It is not rare at all for a company that was at the top to no longer have that position if they take their position for granted, and this is especially true when it comes to casinos, after all we know the competition is fierce and that your competitors are always looking for a way to surpass you since that means a lot more money for them, and if the casino at the top is unable to keep up or think that players are going to keep playing there out of habit then they are mistaken as players are always looking for the best platform and bonuses they can possible get.  

One factor that really important, gamblers are always finding new offers that let them to stay or to change place when'
another casino offers a much better deal for them.

In this case, Stakes provide good compensations and lots of bonuses for those active gamblers who already reached the
wagering requirements. Those additioanal freebies will keep gamblers and attracts newbies.

Nitrogen has scam report in the scam section plus their comparison to other gambling sites makes them inferior when they used to be the top online gambling site, the Nitrogen team should discuss this and talk about making the site great again, if Stake is beating them and many gamblers are leaving soon many new gambling site will beat them too.

Nitrogen has scam report in the scam section plus their comparison to other gambling sites makes them inferior when they used to be the top online gambling site, the Nitrogen team should discuss this and talk about making the site great again, if Stake is beating them and many gamblers are leaving soon many new gambling site will beat them too.

This is a well known fact. Stake is developed in such cases a way to attract all levels of gamblers. Nitrogen is good for the sports betting where you get access to pay with cryptocurrencies and other means of payment. Stake provides good rakeback for the high rollers which is something very impressive. Stake is developed after the popular primedice, which means they've well known and understood the user requirements and developed stake.com

If there's an evidence that a certain site is scamming its gamblers, I think it's just appropriate to say bad words to them as they have no room to make money here while scamming people. Crypto gambling is getting popular due to increasing number of good sites that caters gambler, so as a gambler, we have to help and protect that so the market will grow.

I don' think that it needs to be scamming before we Open our mouth Like what OP pointed in This whole thread.

Most of the reason are the incompetent Business status in which small issues has not been making action but from the beginning for sure there are reports regarding complaints and comments of gamblers.

But it is always good that We will not complaint and report our disappointment or disapprove because it is our right being User of their platform.

Yeah, stake knows how to engage their gamblers by sending them bonuses from time to time like recently they sent out Post monthly bonus which was unexpected and they have a stream setup with Edward where he doesn't just entertain users with his game but also give out lots of free money to users.

I have played at nitrogen earlier and were decent but the engagement was never there, I mean I never felt like attached to the site although I had good friends in the chat but the site never made efforts to engage their users by sending time to time bonuses or at least some stream where we can get get to know the owners better.

Exactly, we all have the right to curse them when their service is shitty because we are the one making them rich.
As a gambler, we are looking for the best experience, and it's okay to lose money as long as we have the best experience, in fact, that's the way to keep gamblers.

The poor services of the nitrogen is the reason why a lot of gamblers like me who withdraw their money and transfer it to another sportsbook and casino. There are now a lot of complaints and I do not know why it seems that the management of the nitrogen did not hear any of those complaints and rants about them. I actually recommend it before to my friends way back 3 years ago but now I discourage my relatives or friends to use that site because of the poor service and also the bad reviews of the gamblers like me. I'm part of the gambler who want to play in order to get entertainment and not to add up the stress that I'm keep taking.

I have used both bookies and none of the mentioned gambling websites are able to cover my needs as a professional service. The Stake has the lowest odds and the house edge per bet is higher compared to the alternative betting websites. Scam accusations are solved by the Stake team but the same is not true for Nitrogen, AFAIK. Maybe this is the main reason why the popularity of Pinnacle increases every year among high rollers.

See the OP here is biased about their own decisions. They have used NS previously, did not like them and moved on to Stake. That does not mean that NS is bad and Stake is good - totally incorrect. This is a personal choice based on many factors and one does not make the verdict.

What will suit your playing habit, withdrawal delays, support issues will depend on your experience and thus making up your mind before using the site is a wrong approach.

Every gambler willing to take their chances should use more than one bookie to play on. Stake is still new in the sports betting department while NS is older in sports betting.

Bad for them they were not able to retain their old customers, Nitrogen is one of the biggest crypto sportsbook before to my knowledge, but they slowly become obsolete while other sportsbook like sportsbet and stakes are improving, hopefully they'll come back on top.

yeah and "They Use to Be" because of Poor services in which the most important thing to maintain a online business.
Because in This area of business we have no personal interaction to our costumers/Players so each single concern must be address right away because the competition in gambling now is too strict and close,
so many new sites that can offer the things we cannot provide and they are willing to listen from suggestion to criticism just to make their business stay strong and profitable.

One factor that really important, gamblers are always finding new offers that let them to stay or to change place when'
another casino offers a much better deal for them.

In this case, Stakes provide good compensations and lots of bonuses for those active gamblers who already reached the
wagering requirements. Those additioanal freebies will keep gamblers and attracts newbies.

This is probably the biggest issue for casinos nowadays, there are so many casinos with good designs that all casinos are having problems keeping their players from leaving especially if those other casinos offer great deposit bonuses, but the way they have to counter that is to give loyalty bonuses themselves to keep their gamblers happy, unfortunately most casinos concentrate themselves in keeping whales and they disregard small gamblers which I think is a mistake.

Inhope the topic help to people to understand what bookie need to be look its hour money so we deserve are best we can get from this 2 sites the winner is stake for sure, for any questions or help i am here always, now go make some money (=

This is probably the biggest issue for casinos nowadays, there are so many casinos with good designs that all casinos are having problems keeping their players from leaving especially if those other casinos offer great deposit bonuses, but the way they have to counter that is to give loyalty bonuses themselves to keep their gamblers happy, unfortunately most casinos concentrate themselves in keeping whales and they disregard small gamblers which I think is a mistake.

I agree a gambling site should cater to everybody, whales or small bettor, they should concentrate on the number and not on profit alone, of course, whales will bet a huge amount of money, but they should set up a community not just a group of whales, they need reviews coming from both whales and small bettors.

This is probably the biggest issue for casinos nowadays, there are so many casinos with good designs that all casinos are having problems keeping their players from leaving especially if those other casinos offer great deposit bonuses, but the way they have to counter that is to give loyalty bonuses themselves to keep their gamblers happy, unfortunately most casinos concentrate themselves in keeping whales and they disregard small gamblers which I think is a mistake.

I agree a gambling site should cater to everybody, whales or small bettor, they should concentrate on the number and not on profit alone, of course, whales will bet a huge amount of money, but they should set up a community not just a group of whales, they need reviews coming from both whales and small bettors.

Actually lets take out the bonuses offered because Gamblers has their pride in which can play in casinos they like even without offering just to stay.

But the main problem is the services,on how the Gambling site cater their player and the most important thing is the Withdrawal Issue and the Lack of support complying to every issue thrown by the players.

this why Good/loyal gambler flying to another site because those small issue but cannot be addressed right away.

Majority of casino is easily accepting our deposit but Being hard when comes to withdrawal.

Not just im chossing stake over nitrogen just because im currently advertising them but I do prefer Stake when it comes to sportsbet as of this moment.

You would able to spot out the difference when it comes to responsiveness between platforms.I admit that im a nitrogensports lover wayback but when the
time comes that their service gradually fades out in the area of being comfort then I did tend to switch to sportsbet and
did try to land on stake and I didn't really expect that the user experience is entire different.

stake and nitrogen have almost the same platform except that nitrogen has more features than stake, but so far when I gamble on these two platforms it is still safe and there are no problems, so I prefer to stick with both to make a profit.

Not just im chossing stake over nitrogen just because im currently advertising them but I do prefer Stake when it comes to sportsbet as of this moment.

You would able to spot out the difference when it comes to responsiveness between platforms.I admit that im a nitrogensports lover wayback but when the
time comes that their service gradually fades out in the area of being comfort then I did tend to switch to sportsbet and
did try to land on stake and I didn't really expect that the user experience is entire different.

Nitrogen has many of this from the past But up to now still Their players experience these incompetence ,Good that There is OP like that bring this to conversation so the Nitrogen Team may seriously look upon problem now and may act as what is necessary or else they will continuously lose players since there are already many sites now that offers more and attractive.

stake and nitrogen have almost the same platform except that nitrogen has more features than stake, but so far when I gamble on these two platforms it is still safe and there are no problems, so I prefer to stick with both to make a profit.

I am not sure how you said nitrogen has more features than stake because I am being brutally honest and stake has tons of promotions, casino as well as sportsbook and they have a forum where we can play various challenges and earn some free coins. I am not saying foul about nitrogen but they are far behind in terms or reputation and promotions and not sure which features they have that stake lacks.

I used to play at nitrogen but then I found out sportsbet.io and I never made sports bets again on nitrogen because sportsbet offers me free bets from time to time and now they have a clubhouse which makes wagering feel great there.

Was supposedly to say the same thing that I don't see for nitro to be having much more than on what we are currently seeing on stake when it comes to promotions and perks.

Wayback when im still a die hard fan of nitrogen but those things had fade when I did make try out with sportsbet and with some few bets in Cloudbet too.

When the time I had Stake had announced about their  sportsbook feature then I didn't really regret on testing it out.

They have to compete with stake on their very aggressive advertisements and promotions in order for them to retain their bettors and to get new sign ups. Stake is quite new compared to Nitrogen, but look where they are now, I can see a lot of big wagers from the site , so that simply means bettors are comfortable putting big bets and I haven't read a lot of complaints too particularly in the forum.

Only yesterday stake sent 1.2 milion $ for all her memebres that have raffle tickets and 1 winner get 212k stake love to give and there bonuses is high and the important thing you get money no free bet no roll over or that shit

Only yesterday stake sent 1.2 milion $ for all her memebres that have raffle tickets and 1 winner get 212k stake love to give and there bonuses is high and the important thing you get money no free bet no roll over or that shit

I think this prolonged discussion should be over now as there is no comparison between Nitrogen and Stake.  I wished there was a poll on this thread and we could see the stake is far more recommended site than the nitrogen sports.

Only yesterday stake sent 1.2 milion $ for all her memebres that have raffle tickets and 1 winner get 212k stake love to give and there bonuses is high and the important thing you get money no free bet no roll over or that shit

I know more than 5 high rollers that move from nitrogen to stake, i am not earning from this post, just if you gambler you get much much more on stake.

This is not good for Nitrogen if whales are moving out, let's admit whales are the ones keeping any gambling site in good profit, they are equivalent to more than 10 or more average gamblers, and this thread cast doubts if it is good to play in Nitrogen, no doubt Stake.com is a good replacement and always in contention for the top gambling site in the industry.

When service becomes shit then expect that people would jumping off to place on where it is much better to play rather than staying up even if you do

know that there is much better place compared into the current place that you've been playing.People will always seek for the best and if find out that

there are good opportunities in the other side and giving out best user experience then you would really expect for people to leave and go to other.

.. it's all Nitrogensports actually and this only says that nothing stays in the top forever if you will not take care of the customers.

The competition is getting bigger here, so people if they don't like the site anymore they will certainly try to go for another site. Actually, the in order for a gambling site to retain its customers, they should listen to them, give them the best services so they will not look to try for another one.

As a gambler, I also look for the best site, a site that has less complains as that represents that the site is legit and offers good services and people here have seen the difference between these two sites, but in the past, it's all Nitrogensports actually and this only says that nothing stays in the top forever if you will not take care of the customers.

Still kudos to NitrogenSports. They will not stay as strong as today if they always received negative complaints. Even with that, they are still one of the biggest sports betting sites in crypto gambling without a doubt.

It's just that NitrogenSports doesn't seem to offer good promotions compare to others that's maybe the reason why some whales left out. Not because of frozen accounts, suspicious activity, or anything else. More on offers and not because of some technical issues.

Only yesterday stake sent 1.2 milion $ for all her memebres that have raffle tickets and 1 winner get 212k stake love to give and there bonuses is high and the important thing you get money no free bet no roll over or that shit

What is the point of comparing these 2 sites with each other? there are also many more sites that you could compare with each other? Then you can also consider several criteria to compare with each other and you get a much better picture.

Only yesterday stake sent 1.2 milion $ for all her memebres that have raffle tickets and 1 winner get 212k stake love to give and there bonuses is high and the important thing you get money no free bet no roll over or that shit

What is the point of comparing these 2 sites with each other? there are also many more sites that you could compare with each other? Then you can also consider several criteria to compare with each other and you get a much better picture.

I've taken a look at their thread and there are forum members that have received bonuses.

That's really indicating how serious they are about taking care of their customers and that was one of the biggest promos that I've seen ever!

Bringing it back to players to keep them coming back.

Stake indeed are good in providing customer care, they're making it sure that custmer experienced will keep them on top,
the more satisfied customer the more they'll keep playing back. They know that winnng cutomer's satisfaction will let their
business rolling.

What is the point of comparing these 2 sites with each other? there are also many more sites that you could compare with each other? Then you can also consider several criteria to compare with each other and you get a much better picture.

I think this prolonged discussion should be over now as there is no comparison between Nitrogen and Stake.  I wished there was a poll on this thread and we could see the stake is far more recommended site than the nitrogen sports.

Only yesterday stake sent 1.2 milion $ for all her memebres that have raffle tickets and 1 winner get 212k stake love to give and there bonuses is high and the important thing you get money no free bet no roll over or that shit

I think those perspective of yours are perspective of all gamblers I think you should make more of this I think you should add more bookies I think many people would appreciate if you create a compile list point of view of all the book makers here.

Every gambling site has advantages and disadvantages and that can be seen or known after we are involved in it with different assessments.
and comfort must take precedence and good service, and besides answering complaints and questions properly by every customer and answering every question in detail so that customers stay.
Most of the gambling site users after playing for a long time on the previous site and the new site will definitely try it and will compare, and that's only natural because they want the best gambling site.

Every gambling site has advantages and disadvantages and that can be seen or known after we are involved in it with different assessments.
and comfort must take precedence and good service, and besides answering complaints and questions properly by every customer and answering every question in detail so that customers stay.
Most of the gambling site users after playing for a long time on the previous site and the new site will definitely try it and will compare, and that's only natural because they want the best gambling site.

A gambling site will try to make their customers comfortable while they enjoy the services. The casino knows that if they can services their members, they will stay for a long time, and they will not have a problem spending more money. It is normal if we see many members say that they prefer one site because they can feel comfortable and enjoy the games. Maybe comparing two or more sites from the customers will give the site more services to their members.

On any business then competition is really there thats why its really hard for you to tell or make out some guarantees that people will definitely
stay into your platform like forever because there's no such thing that you can be sure that they would really be loyal since there would
always be a tendency of switch up if they do saw something better on the current place they've been dealing.

Make yourself better from others most of the time will really be they key on mainitaining your customer but if they do find out that
they arent already comfortable on handling them or giving out such service then expect that there would be a jump of.

No such thing as loyalty in the side of gamblers since we are out here seeking for fun and possible profit and if there's a casino who offer better competition together with more bigger prizes then for sure we will jump off and try our luck to have fun as well to win those possible jackpot price given for the said contest. But we cannot deny that we keep coming back to the sportsbook or casino we are comfortable with after all  those promotions done to the other site.

A gambling site will try to make their customers comfortable while they enjoy the services. The casino knows that if they can services their members, they will stay for a long time, and they will not have a problem spending more money. It is normal if we see many members say that they prefer one site because they can feel comfortable and enjoy the games. Maybe comparing two or more sites from the customers will give the site more services to their members.

That's why they too competitive with this kind of feature because there are lots of good offers at the other site who offer much more than them. As long as they give their customers good services, they can make them stay and don't need to look for some other gambling site.

Knowing that each gambling sites also  have ann thread here (s[eaking about crypto gambling sites) after reading this kind of comments from gamblers, they'll be able to adjust and find ways to let their customers feel the comfort that they wanted to have while playing using the platform.

From that point they'll be good relation between the house owners and those gamblers simple give and take
will allow the business to run smoothly.

Every gambling site has advantages and disadvantages and that can be seen or known after we are involved in it with different assessments.
and comfort must take precedence and good service, and besides answering complaints and questions properly by every customer and answering every question in detail so that customers stay.
Most of the gambling site users after playing for a long time on the previous site and the new site will definitely try it and will compare, and that's only natural because they want the best gambling site.

I personally prefer Stake because of fast withdrawal and mostly because I like the UI of the website which is sleek.

Stake.com is a big gambling site, they are popular in the forum and I believe they have the budget to run a long term campaign. They will continue to make an exposure of their gambling site and advertising in the forum could really help. IIRC, this is the 2nd time stake had launch their signature campaign.

Every gambling site has advantages and disadvantages and that can be seen or known after we are involved in it with different assessments.
and comfort must take precedence and good service, and besides answering complaints and questions properly by every customer and answering every question in detail so that customers stay.
Most of the gambling site users after playing for a long time on the previous site and the new site will definitely try it and will compare, and that's only natural because they want the best gambling site.

Stake.com is a big gambling site, they are popular in the forum and I believe they have the budget to run a long term campaign. They will continue to make an exposure of their gambling site and advertising in the forum could really help. IIRC, this is the 2nd time stake had launch their signature campaign.

nitrogen on the other hand are being silent for a long time or they dont have any new additions

I just talk today with nitrogen to see if they going to change something, all usual like was before 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

I put this 2 sites beacose i know them pretty well
I try to ask sportsbet site If I want to bet them about limits beacose i saw better odds and lots of markets on sports the only problem I have its the limit money i try to send bet with 1000$ they limit me to 350 so for me stake it's the best option right now on sports betting I can bet them even on 40k per bet

I just talk today with nitrogen to see if they going to change something, all usual like was before 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Well this also a Good action from Gambling site Limiting their Player not to engaged too much while in other sites they have no care about the bettors way of gambling.

They probably won't give a damn as long as they can attract new players. This how it is for some business owners. They are not after improving their establishment because it already makes good money so why bother? If you want to make them understand, don't play there.

Support talk to you with emails wtf why not send us a Pigeon??.

I just talk today with nitrogen to see if they going to change something, all usual like was before 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Foremost, we all have different point of views. For some, using nitrogen is better than stake of vice versa.
That being said, it is still a good thing that you have pointed this out, so enhancements could be made.
For instance, maybe one of the representatives of the gambling site will see it and make improvements on their website.

Yes and OP had made awareness to other gamblers who used either nitrogen site or stake site. This was an eye opener that we shouldn't have to stick to one site but instead look for another site wherever we find some inconvenience on their services to be able to pointed out what's wrong with that site or vice versa. From here we can personally analyze what should be the enhancements does that site needed to enhance or to change to be able to address it to other if have a chance to do.

To show me like beger will not work for you max you ask me to show you the difference between nitrogen and stake i open this topic after i do that you send me email why you do that to nitrogen ,dont full people here ,you know well that nitrogen far behind stake and I don't need your bonus with 10 roll over i can copy to your emais that you send me to show the difference between the site ,when i write you that stake reward user for wagering and not only if they lose like nitrogen your response was ,good luck in stake we don't offer that.so people here are litel smart than what you think and ibam sure after this topic they know what site will bring them the most ,inwas stupid that i care and i send you before couple of days email and ask if nitrogen change anything,and I see your respond here. You want users come back to nitrogen change things thats all
This is Max from Nitrogen Sports, I've been replying to your emails for several weeks and I want to clarify a few things.

It is true that we contacted you via email and that we made you an offer for a $8K credit with one simple condition (no deposit required, 10X rollover).

"

A few days later, you sent me an email complaining about your account limits (which didn't seem to be a problem until you lost the bonus) and asking me to credit more funds.

We took the time to check your limits and informed you that they were never cut or adjusted, and that some lesser or minor leagues, for example, Israeli Basketball (Live Betting) are limited to $500 in some cases. We also explained you that general limits on major sports can go up to $60K (although, you keep saying otherwise).

All we have received from you is a few emails indicating that Stake is giving you thousands of dollars in incentives and rewards, and that since these rewards are action based, you don't have to accrue losses in order to receive an incentive. We replied saying that you that you are ok to receive your weekly rebate, but that no cash incentives were going to get credited in addition to the $8K you received. We also informed you that you were needed to reactivate your account in order to receive a new incentive. That never happened.

The part that I want to make clear is the following:

1- You never asked or inquired about any changes to the VIP program, platform, overall service, etc. All you did was sending an email saying that you were now receiving thousands of dollars in bonuses and incentives from Stake, and that you were expecting us to do the same.

2 - We increased your bonus deal and made some changes and adjustments, but now it seems that our effort was insufficient to your eyes.

3- Claiming that "NS won't change anything" is not only false, but also a malicious statement. It seems seems that your only goal is making NS look bad after I declined your request for a second bonus, which by the way, you wanted to have under your own terms (cash reward, no rollover, no deposit).  

Every VIP in our program is treated according to their action and loyalty. Your account has been inactive for almost a year (since February 2020), although, you have contacted us numerous times asking for free cash rewards and other bonuses (That's after the $8k we credited and that you happily took).

We granted an exception, you seemed to have no issues with the funds credited  (You even said that your were resuming your action on permanent basis after receiving the bonus). We are sorry to know that you find our deal to be insufficient, but that does not mean that NS is reluctant to treat players fairly and that we are not open to listen to their feedback and suggestions and reward loyal players. That is simply false. Have a nice day.

We never asked you to make a public post. Like I've been telling you for weeks, you have the right to choose the service that suits you the best, but these actions have other intentions, and that's harming and arm twisting. Again, not what I'd expect from a VIP.

Max

This what viv your stuff in nitrogen sent me

How would you say our site is far behind, specifically how? Can you render a comparison from your point of view as a client?

I think this is word against word if no one will Go in between ,Someone trusted and fair in this Forum to Handle and check the legitimacy of those emails that supports each words.

Because if this will continue ,Then this thread may become a Social media Group and arguing about their Likes and Dislikes to the company ..

Hope that there will be One that will not take side instead clarify the emails and inform this thread ,Or much Better if you both will Reveal each Email for the closure of this .

Just Saying Lol.

We never asked you to make a public post. Like I've been telling you for weeks, you have the right to choose the service that suits you the best, but these actions have other intentions, and that's harming and arm twisting. Again, not what I'd expect from a VIP.

Max

Every word i say here its true i show ehat good in stake what wrong in nitrogen and what need to be changed,

Like I've been telling you for weeks, you have the right to choose the service that suits you the best,  but these actions have other intentions, and that's harming and arm twisting. Again, not what I'd expect from a VIP.

Max

When i told them in emails stake give me more they ask me how ,when they ask me ehat the difference between them and stake i open this topic,what agenda i can have?
Tear people comments you will see your self the difference between the sites.
Harm how i am harm that i tell people to get the best benefit for them sory if i want people get more money from there gambling site

Just do what you think is Right OP ,because truth shall prevail ,you have the emails/conversations thats enough t prove you right.
and besides you can't please everybody because each of us has their own ways of believing .
But i know you won't expose here if you are in bad faith, so just ignore them and talk to the representative ,because they are the one who's in need for reply.

After all, if you want to boast or drop one of them I don't think this is the place, but if there are comments that point to it, I don't think it is a problem because it's about their experience playing on one of the gambling related sites. I personally prefer stake because there were things that made me leave nitrogen in the past however, I still admit nitrogen is a good site I've ever used and I don't hate them.

Some do hate them but people is still on the neutral side of things where they dont hate it up yet we do know that this is one of the most famous bookies back in the past.
We cant deny that they do gave out the best service out  there when these new bookies didnt still exist. Some do appreciate their past experiences with nitrogen
and some do hate due to issues that they do able to experience on.Even myself doesnt hate them even though im already playing in other bookies as of this moment.

There could be a lot of people that hate them but most of them don't speak out about their bad experience like OP instead they just become inactive and move on. When I sometimes lurk on stake's chat i'll see a few familiar names that used to play on nitrogen and they'll mention their story on how bad nitrogen was when it comes to rewards. At some point I used to hate nitrogen but i've moved on since it's up to them to make those changes.

This is Max from Nitrogen Sports, I've been replying to your emails for several weeks and I want to clarify a few things.

It is true that we contacted you via email and that we made you an offer for a $8K credit with one simple condition (no deposit required, 10X rollover).

"

A few days later, you sent me an email complaining about your account limits (which didn't seem to be a problem until you lost the bonus) and asking me to credit more funds.

We took the time to check your limits and informed you that they were never cut or adjusted, and that some lesser or minor leagues, for example, Israeli Basketball (Live Betting) are limited to $500 in some cases. We also explained you that general limits on major sports can go up to $60K (although, you keep saying otherwise).

All we have received from you is a few emails indicating that Stake is giving you thousands of dollars in incentives and rewards, and that since these rewards are action based, you don't have to accrue losses in order to receive an incentive. We replied saying that you that you are ok to receive your weekly rebate, but that no cash incentives were going to get credited in addition to the $8K you received. We also informed you that you were needed to reactivate your account in order to receive a new incentive. That never happened.

The part that I want to make clear is the following:

1- You never asked or inquired about any changes to the VIP program, platform, overall service, etc. All you did was sending an email saying that you were now receiving thousands of dollars in bonuses and incentives from Stake, and that you were expecting us to do the same.

2 - We increased your bonus deal and made some changes and adjustments, but now it seems that our effort was insufficient to your eyes.

3- Claiming that "NS won't change anything" is not only false, but also a malicious statement. It seems seems that your only goal is making NS look bad after I declined your request for a second bonus, which by the way, you wanted to have under your own terms (cash reward, no rollover, no deposit).  

Every VIP in our program is treated according to their action and loyalty. Your account has been inactive for almost a year (since February 2020), although, you have contacted us numerous times asking for free cash rewards and other bonuses (That's after the $8k we credited and that you happily took).

We granted an exception, you seemed to have no issues with the funds credited  (You even said that your were resuming your action on permanent basis after receiving the bonus). We are sorry to know that you find our deal to be insufficient, but that does not mean that NS is reluctant to treat players fairly and that we are not open to listen to their feedback and suggestions and reward loyal players. That is simply false. Have a nice day.

I think Stake has a better reputation. They are also much more active in the forum and they are often busy with promotions and innovations on the site. that is important. I read a lot less things about nitrogen and they are less concerned with the site.

Was just thinking after reading your Post now as i'm following this thread for week now, Why OP keeps on Mentioning the Stakes treatment and favors for Him?

and after those actions yet he created this thread while Nitrogen does not do anything bad towards him?sorry though i judged base on what OP says as the comparison seems to be subjective .