Stake or nitrogen my point of view

[ice098]

Well this also a Good action from Gambling site Limiting their Player not to engaged too much while in other sites they have no care about the bettors way of gambling.

Nitrogen have already generate an income from their software setups and i guess as long as Nitrogen has a players or gamblers that are willing to played or gambled with this site they may not get to upgrade their system. They may only set it as their priority if it were alreadt threatened their income.

I just talk today with nitrogen to see if they going to change something, all usual like was before 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

They probably won't give a damn as long as they can attract new players. This how it is for some business owners. They are not after improving their establishment because it already makes good money so why bother? If you want to make them understand, don't play there.

Nitrogen will not take this issues seriously as long as they can have an income generated from it. Their competitors like stale could still not give them a threat for their income that's why it isn't prioritize yet.

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[LimLims]

Support talk to you with emails wtf why not send us a Pigeon??.

Lmao this made my day.
I too also agree Stake is far better than many crypto Sportsbook.
Not only they provide instant support but there UI is also great.
The site is Mobile optimised and gives pleasing views to the eyes.

Moreover Nitrogen has wider variety of markets to bet on before the Live Event of a particular event starts.
But in case of Stake sometime I don’t find a particular event to bet until and unless the event is live.

Rest in every other aspects Stake Wins.

[VanityWallets2015]

Foremost, we all have different point of views. For some, using nitrogen is better than stake of vice versa.
That being said, it is still a good thing that you have pointed this out, so enhancements could be made.
For instance, maybe one of the representatives of the gambling site will see it and make improvements on their website.

[maxbetlimit]

I just talk today with nitrogen to see if they going to change something, all usual like was before 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

This is Max from Nitrogen Sports, I've been replying to your emails for several weeks and I want to clarify a few things.

It is true that we contacted you via email and that we made you an offer for a $8K credit with one simple condition (no deposit required, 10X rollover).

"Lets try it its big bonus even with 10 roll over i am happy with that and i be happy to be back

"

A few days later, you sent me an email complaining about your account limits (which didn't seem to be a problem until you lost the bonus) and asking me to credit more funds.

We took the time to check your limits and informed you that they were never cut or adjusted, and that some lesser or minor leagues, for example, Israeli Basketball (Live Betting) are limited to $500 in some cases. We also explained you that general limits on major sports can go up to $60K (although, you keep saying otherwise).

All we have received from you is a few emails indicating that Stake is giving you thousands of dollars in incentives and rewards, and that since these rewards are action based, you don't have to accrue losses in order to receive an incentive. We replied saying that you that you are ok to receive your weekly rebate, but that no cash incentives were going to get credited in addition to the $8K you received. We also informed you that you were needed to reactivate your account in order to receive a new incentive. That never happened.

The part that I want to make clear is the following:

1- You never asked or inquired about any changes to the VIP program, platform, overall service, etc. All you did was sending an email saying that you were now receiving thousands of dollars in bonuses and incentives from Stake, and that you were expecting us to do the same.

2 - We increased your bonus deal and made some changes and adjustments, but now it seems that our effort was insufficient to your eyes.

3- Claiming that "NS won't change anything" is not only false, but also a malicious statement. It seems seems that your only goal is making NS look bad after I declined your request for a second bonus, which by the way, you wanted to have under your own terms (cash reward, no rollover, no deposit).  

Every VIP in our program is treated according to their action and loyalty. Your account has been inactive for almost a year (since February 2020), although, you have contacted us numerous times asking for free cash rewards and other bonuses (That's after the $8k we credited and that you happily took).

We granted an exception, you seemed to have no issues with the funds credited  (You even said that your were resuming your action on permanent basis after receiving the bonus). We are sorry to know that you find our deal to be insufficient, but that does not mean that NS is reluctant to treat players fairly and that we are not open to listen to their feedback and suggestions and reward loyal players. That is simply false. Have a nice day.

[k@suy]

Foremost, we all have different point of views. For some, using nitrogen is better than stake of vice versa.
That being said, it is still a good thing that you have pointed this out, so enhancements could be made.
For instance, maybe one of the representatives of the gambling site will see it and make improvements on their website.

Yes and OP had made awareness to other gamblers who used either nitrogen site or stake site. This was an eye opener that we shouldn't have to stick to one site but instead look for another site wherever we find some inconvenience on their services to be able to pointed out what's wrong with that site or vice versa. From here we can personally analyze what should be the enhancements does that site needed to enhance or to change to be able to address it to other if have a chance to do.

[Viscore]

Foremost, we all have different point of views. For some, using nitrogen is better than stake of vice versa.
That being said, it is still a good thing that you have pointed this out, so enhancements could be made.
For instance, maybe one of the representatives of the gambling site will see it and make improvements on their website.

Yes and OP had made awareness to other gamblers who used either nitrogen site or stake site. This was an eye opener that we shouldn't have to stick to one site but instead look for another site wherever we find some inconvenience on their services to be able to pointed out what's wrong with that site or vice versa. From here we can personally analyze what should be the enhancements does that site needed to enhance or to change to be able to address it to other if have a chance to do.

I guess those who have used both sites knows the difference and knows which is the better site, and as you can read on the comments, most of the posters seems to agree with OP, so I believe OP posted an honest opinion regarding the site. What's significant here is for the Nitrogensports to know that they aren't anymore as popular as before as they can't keep their good service.

[jaberwock]

I don't get why would someone compare two places just for sake of trying to get free money from other place. I mean if you did a good marketing for them, they may have maybe paid you for marketing purposes if agreed upon beforehand, but if you didn't had any contract available about that, it would have been a no go for that as well.

However when you create a topic about how one place is better than another place and talk about how that place screwed you out of money with no proof at all, they are going to come out and provide you wrong.

Hopefully you will find a way to actually make that money back somehow, obviously not this way but hopefully some other way, hopefully you will win it at stake because by the looks of it you are going to gamble a lot of money there or so you say. But, you are not getting any free money from nitrogen as nobody in the world gets free money from anywhere if that place doesn't agree to it (meaning you can't blackmail them to give you more).

[Naamandror]

You so wrong I compare this 2 sites because i know them well i loved nitrogen in the past and no i dont get anything from stake for this topic i just help people to know the difference between the sites ,the big difference its instant withdraw and that stake give you ton of bonuses even if you in profit , nitrogen give you cash back if you winner you get shit ,and the important thing you can talk live with support 24/7 no woth emails like nitrogen we in 2020 almost 2021 and still no live chat on nitrogen,i know personally big beting people that move like me from nitrogen to stake like moss nelis litelkidd and more and more users belive me if nitrogen was good than stake why to move??  The only thing that i can say positive on nitrogen that if you chose to bet there your money is safe they dont scam people and they will pay you..

[Naamandror]

I just talk today with nitrogen to see if they going to change something, all usual like was before 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

To show me like beger will not work for you max you ask me to show you the difference between nitrogen and stake i open this topic after i do that you send me email why you do that to nitrogen ,dont full people here ,you know well that nitrogen far behind stake and I don't need your bonus with 10 roll over i can copy to your emais that you send me to show the difference between the site ,when i write you that stake reward user for wagering and not only if they lose like nitrogen your response was ,good luck in stake we don't offer that.so people here are litel smart than what you think and ibam sure after this topic they know what site will bring them the most ,inwas stupid that i care and i send you before couple of days email and ask if nitrogen change anything,and I see your respond here. You want users come back to nitrogen change things thats all
This is Max from Nitrogen Sports, I've been replying to your emails for several weeks and I want to clarify a few things.

It is true that we contacted you via email and that we made you an offer for a $8K credit with one simple condition (no deposit required, 10X rollover).

"Lets try it its big bonus even with 10 roll over i am happy with that and i be happy to be back

"

A few days later, you sent me an email complaining about your account limits (which didn't seem to be a problem until you lost the bonus) and asking me to credit more funds.

We took the time to check your limits and informed you that they were never cut or adjusted, and that some lesser or minor leagues, for example, Israeli Basketball (Live Betting) are limited to $500 in some cases. We also explained you that general limits on major sports can go up to $60K (although, you keep saying otherwise).

All we have received from you is a few emails indicating that Stake is giving you thousands of dollars in incentives and rewards, and that since these rewards are action based, you don't have to accrue losses in order to receive an incentive. We replied saying that you that you are ok to receive your weekly rebate, but that no cash incentives were going to get credited in addition to the $8K you received. We also informed you that you were needed to reactivate your account in order to receive a new incentive. That never happened.

The part that I want to make clear is the following:

1- You never asked or inquired about any changes to the VIP program, platform, overall service, etc. All you did was sending an email saying that you were now receiving thousands of dollars in bonuses and incentives from Stake, and that you were expecting us to do the same.

2 - We increased your bonus deal and made some changes and adjustments, but now it seems that our effort was insufficient to your eyes.

3- Claiming that "NS won't change anything" is not only false, but also a malicious statement. It seems seems that your only goal is making NS look bad after I declined your request for a second bonus, which by the way, you wanted to have under your own terms (cash reward, no rollover, no deposit).  

Every VIP in our program is treated according to their action and loyalty. Your account has been inactive for almost a year (since February 2020), although, you have contacted us numerous times asking for free cash rewards and other bonuses (That's after the $8k we credited and that you happily took).

We granted an exception, you seemed to have no issues with the funds credited  (You even said that your were resuming your action on permanent basis after receiving the bonus). We are sorry to know that you find our deal to be insufficient, but that does not mean that NS is reluctant to treat players fairly and that we are not open to listen to their feedback and suggestions and reward loyal players. That is simply false. Have a nice day.

[maxbetlimit]

We never asked you to show any differences between NS and Stake, you decided to take a personal crusade after you didn't get what you wanted. We invited you to take part in our VIP program, which you replied saying that you are now getting millions of dollars in rewards and that you wanted us to do the same. We informed you that you are free to make whatever decision you find more convenient. That's all. But instead, you created this post in an attempt to make Nitrogen Sports look like a subpar option. I understand that you may be disappointed with our response, but these personals vendettas are not what we have expected from a VIP that has received a fair treatment, as well as thousands of dollars in rewards and bonuses. Stay well.

Max

[Naamandror]

I can show you the email not you ask but other nitrogen support i have the email save (:

[Naamandror]

This what viv your stuff in nitrogen sent me

How would you say our site is far behind, specifically how? Can you render a comparison from your point of view as a client?

[maxbetlimit]

We never asked you to make a public post. Like I've been telling you for weeks, you have the right to choose the service that suits you the best, but these actions have other intentions, and that's harming and arm twisting. Again, not what I'd expect from a VIP.

Max

[bitterguy28]

We never asked you to make a public post. Like I've been telling you for weeks, you have the right to choose the service that suits you the best, but these actions have other intentions, and that's harming and arm twisting. Again, not what I'd expect from a VIP.

Max

I think this is word against word if no one will Go in between ,Someone trusted and fair in this Forum to Handle and check the legitimacy of those emails that supports each words.

Because if this will continue ,Then this thread may become a Social media Group and arguing about their Likes and Dislikes to the company ..

Hope that there will be One that will not take side instead clarify the emails and inform this thread ,Or much Better if you both will Reveal each Email for the closure of this .

Just Saying Lol.

This what viv your stuff in nitrogen sent me

How would you say our site is far behind, specifically how? Can you render a comparison from your point of view as a client?

Oooopss,Missed this part since this is Email from another Nitrogen admin?


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My opinion ? according what Max said and this email? you have Provoked them to ask you more comparison ,because of the Better treatment Stakes given you while Nitrogen has a Little ( for you i think) to offer.

[ice098]

I think this is word against word if no one will Go in between ,Someone trusted and fair in this Forum to Handle and check the legitimacy of those emails that supports each words.

Because if this will continue ,Then this thread may become a Social media Group and arguing about their Likes and Dislikes to the company ..

Hope that there will be One that will not take side instead clarify the emails and inform this thread ,Or much Better if you both will Reveal each Email for the closure of this .

Just Saying Lol.

A scenario that wouldn't far to happen and yes maybe there could someone or who else who wouldn' take one side only can clarify this. We could not judged them by just how we read here its because that was their opinions and maybe based on their experience while using such sites. I do glad that while reading this thread was many favored to stake rather than nitrogen its because that was the OP's content or opinion here but some speak to stand to nitrogen, it could be a word against word but this could enlighten us here.

[peter0425]

We never asked you to make a public post. Like I've been telling you for weeks, you have the right to choose the service that suits you the best, but these actions have other intentions, and that's harming and arm twisting. Again, not what I'd expect from a VIP.

Max

Was just thinking after reading your Post now as i'm following this thread for week now, Why OP keeps on Mentioning the Stakes treatment and favors for Him?

and after those actions yet he created this thread while Nitrogen does not do anything bad towards him?sorry though i judged base on what OP says as the comparison seems to be subjective .

[Naamandror]

Every word i say here its true i show ehat good in stake what wrong in nitrogen and what need to be changed,avout emails between me and nitrogen i can show if everyone want i dont hide anything,yes i got 8000$ with 10roll over to get them the only problem that its not realy roll over you cant bet 8000 on odds like 1.1 you must out x2 odds that its count 1 roll,abd second thing its when i get this "bonus" the site give me max bet on 600 800 its was joke, nitrogen know well why to give me that beacuse its impossible bonus , but this topic not about that its about what site better for gambling thats all

[btc78]

Every word i say here its true i show ehat good in stake what wrong in nitrogen and what need to be changed,

But you make this post after consistently imposing in Nitrogen's faces about how much Stake is Giving you ,this implies another Side of the interest in exposing the comparison.
and besides what is the reason about mentioning the Amount stakes letting you while Nitrogen only afford lower?
to let them offers above the other company's giving you?

Like I've been telling you for weeks, you have the right to choose the service that suits you the best,  but these actions have other intentions, and that's harming and arm twisting. Again, not what I'd expect from a VIP.

Max

You have been told that you can use any sites you wanted to stay ,why seems there is a hidden agenda  behind the actions you did ,and besides Nitrogen have treated you a VIP allowing to have a credit limit of 8k usd? That's fair or even higher just to accept without telling them that the other site gives you more, does it sounds bargaining . 

[Naamandror]

When i told them in emails stake give me more they ask me how ,when they ask me ehat the difference between them and stake i open this topic,what agenda i can have?
Tear people comments you will see your self the difference between the sites.
Harm how i am harm that i tell people to get the best benefit for them sory if i want people get more money from there gambling site

[rodskee]

When i told them in emails stake give me more they ask me how ,when they ask me ehat the difference between them and stake i open this topic,what agenda i can have?
Tear people comments you will see your self the difference between the sites.
Harm how i am harm that i tell people to get the best benefit for them sory if i want people get more money from there gambling site

Just do what you think is Right OP ,because truth shall prevail ,you have the emails/conversations thats enough t prove you right.
and besides you can't please everybody because each of us has their own ways of believing .
But i know you won't expose here if you are in bad faith, so just ignore them and talk to the representative ,because they are the one who's in need for reply.