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Title: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Broly46 on November 22, 2020, 08:42:28 AM

 ;D ;D ;D
YouTube, gamers, free lance, hackers

No need a #job and will never need one.

Employers, businessmen, government, banker, welfare, social leeches can btfo.

It’s the future, without a money system manipulated by a central banker FED, people can finally achieve freedom.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Tytanowy Janusz on November 22, 2020, 09:56:10 AM
10 years. Pretty good achievement. I'll celebrate my 3 years jobless in about 5 weeks:) Trading, investing, algo trading, mining, supporting projects, advertising and many more activities and I'm doing better than i would do without quitting my job. It is possible, but we should not forget about self-improvement in case this market will f.k up in next few years. Be sure to always have alterantive in your life.



Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: jademaxxiss012 on November 22, 2020, 10:17:08 AM
I think you are wrong OP with those bloggers, youtubers and free lancers are also doing their things as a job. They could not earn if they do not make some videos, articles or some sort of informational substance that will be cast to the community or the audience of that certain platform. They earn through the ads that pop out and the number of ads that will going to advertise will also determine their profit. If you wanted to have a passive income then invest on things that can earn you even without doing nothing.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Broly46 on November 22, 2020, 10:37:14 AM
10 years. Pretty good achievement. I'll celebrate my 3 years jobless in about 5 weeks:) Trading, investing, algo trading, mining, supporting projects, advertising and many more activities and I'm doing better than i would do without quitting my job. It is possible, but we should not forget about self-improvement in case this market will f.k up in next few years. Be sure to always have alterantive in your life.



They could take all the jobs, because the hyperinflation has destroy the money value over the year, the bank has literally debased the money to -99% of its stock value, never in my dream somebody could call gaming YouTube and hacking is a job, they called it a joke tbh.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Broly46 on November 22, 2020, 10:40:01 AM
I think you are wrong OP with those bloggers, youtubers and free lancers are also doing their things as a job. They could not earn if they do not make some videos, articles or some sort of informational substance that will be cast to the community or the audience of that certain platform. They earn through the ads that pop out and the number of ads that will going to advertise will also determine their profit. If you wanted to have a passive income then invest on things that can earn you even without doing nothing.

Not exactly, rolf, a job should come with many more benefits, may be you never have a job in your life, that’s why many youth think a job is something we do for a living, LOL, that’s a lie the mainstream want to indoctrine us.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: smyslov on November 22, 2020, 10:50:22 AM

 ;D ;D ;D
YouTube, gamers, free lance, hackers

No need a #job and will never need one.

Employers, businessmen, government, banker, welfare, social leeches can btfo.

It’s the future, without a money system manipulated by a central banker FED, people can finally achieve freedom.

If you are good at what you are doing as a freelance and Youtuber, you don't need a day job and you are out of the rat race, congratulations for achieving that, everybody wants to get out of the 9 to 5 jobs, there's no freedom in a 9 to 5 job it's a chore that you want to get out, so no wonder people are looking online to escape from this.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: pinggoki on November 22, 2020, 10:55:49 AM
If you are jobless for almost 10 years then probably you are doing some contents that makes you happy and you are enjoying it while earning. Just keep the fire burning, not all of the people who is becoming rich are doing the exact job as people think about, but there are people who are jobless but still manage to earn money by being a freelancer in different line of their expertise.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Saisher on November 22, 2020, 11:09:09 AM
If you are making a living on something that you love then it's not job at all, ten years is like a great achievement and I'm sure that you will not go back to day job because who would not want to do things that he loves and anytime that he wants to do when he likes it to do.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Paycoinzzz on November 22, 2020, 11:40:34 AM

 ;D ;D ;D
YouTube, gamers, free lance, hackers

No need a #job and will never need one.

Employers, businessmen, government, banker, welfare, social leeches can btfo.

It’s the future, without a money system manipulated by a central banker FED, people can finally achieve freedom.
Why is it a joke? I feel the job market is good because it gives us the opportunity to thrive in an environment that you love. Don't you think, when humans are too free, they'll turn into beasts? Then the rich will get richer, they manipulate money and this society will become more and more imbalanced :)
By the way, Youtuber, Gamers, Free lancer are all a profession, so they can make money.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: yhiaali3 on November 22, 2020, 11:48:58 AM
I am one of the people who managed to achieve some financial freedom through my work in Crypto, indeed this is Crypto Time, it has changed my life from the worst to the better.
Although I am an employee and have a monthly salary, but it is insignificant and does not cover only a small part of my daily needs, but now through my work in Crypto, I can get additional income that is better than my salary and covers all my expenses.
There are a lot of things that can be done on crypto, writing in forums, investing, trading, staking and much more that you can earn from and make a good income.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Harriti on November 22, 2020, 11:51:10 AM


Employers, businessmen, government, banker, welfare, social leeches can btfo.

It’s the future, without a money system manipulated by a central banker FED, people can finally achieve freedom.
Why do you say the Fed is a manipulation fund? Do you have proof of this?
Now I am very interested in learning about the economy and the role that banks play in the general economy. So it would be great if you could tell me what you think about how big banks are now. :-*


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Broly46 on November 22, 2020, 11:53:06 AM

 ;D ;D ;D
YouTube, gamers, free lance, hackers

No need a #job and will never need one.

Employers, businessmen, government, banker, welfare, social leeches can btfo.

It’s the future, without a money system manipulated by a central banker FED, people can finally achieve freedom.

If you are good at what you are doing as a freelance and Youtuber, you don't need a day job and you are out of the rat race, congratulations for achieving that, everybody wants to get out of the 9 to 5 jobs, there's no freedom in a 9 to 5 job it's a chore that you want to get out, so no wonder people are looking online to escape from this.

I wake up everyday to work toward achieving happiness, my daily routing, wake up early and workout some light sport to train my body, and building some muscle, eat well, and go around hitting up with my old fams, I’m sure they do well too during lock down.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: GDragon on November 22, 2020, 11:54:07 AM
10 years. Pretty good achievement. I'll celebrate my 3 years jobless in about 5 weeks:) Trading, investing, algo trading, mining, supporting projects, advertising and many more activities and I'm doing better than i would do without quitting my job. It is possible, but we should not forget about self-improvement in case this market will f.k up in next few years. Be sure to always have alterantive in your life.


It's not an office job but as long as you are surviving day to day, earning money for you and your family needs, then it's a job. But you're right, we need to create a multiple source of income, I do small business and offer my skills in freelancing sites, cause if I don't, I won't survive facing uncertainties.

Ps.
Youtuber, streamers, passive incomes are the dream of those workers who are stuck in office jobs.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Broly46 on November 22, 2020, 11:55:53 AM


Employers, businessmen, government, banker, welfare, social leeches can btfo.

It’s the future, without a money system manipulated by a central banker FED, people can finally achieve freedom.
Why do you say the Fed is a manipulation fund? Do you have proof of this?
Now I am very interested in learning about the economy and the role that banks play in the general economy. So it would be great if you could tell me what you think about how big banks are now. :-*

I had been around for quite some time, and look out for my old thread I wrote a lot of them, you may learn a lot too.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Broly46 on November 22, 2020, 01:15:31 PM
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If you are jobless for almost 10 years then probably you are doing some contents that makes you happy and you are enjoying it while earning. Just keep the fire burning, not all of the people who is becoming rich are doing the exact job as people think about, but there are people who are jobless but still manage to earn money by being a freelancer in different line of their expertise.

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LOL, we might have some contradiction, I didn’t really like it at first but slowly grown attach to it, it might be the fate on my life.

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If you are jobless for almost 10 years then probably you are doing some contents that makes you happy and you are enjoying it while earning. Just keep the fire burning, not all of the people who is becoming rich are doing the exact job as people think about, but there are people who are jobless but still manage to earn money by being a freelancer in different line of their expertise.

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Well, my expertise, gaming hacking and YouTube? Btw it’s totally fine to call me expert LOL.

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If you are making a living on something that you love then it's not job at all, ten years is like a great achievement and I'm sure that you will not go back to day job because who would not want to do things that he loves and anytime that he wants to do when he likes it to do.

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I won’t say I dislike my current position, most of my peer are looking old and pale, and they praise me for keep myself fit over the years, which is quite refreshing.

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 ;D ;D ;D
YouTube, gamers, free lance, hackers

No need a #job and will never need one.

Employers, businessmen, government, banker, welfare, social leeches can btfo.

It’s the future, without a money system manipulated by a central banker FED, people can finally achieve freedom.
Why is it a joke? I feel the job market is good because it gives us the opportunity to thrive in an environment that you love. Don't you think, when humans are too free, they'll turn into beasts? Then the rich will get richer, they manipulate money and this society will become more and more imbalanced :)
By the way, Youtuber, Gamers, Free lancer are all a profession, so they can make money.

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For once, I refuse to argue with someone contradict with me, because I’m not in the mood today. So you like to get a job? Fine then!
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Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Ludmilla_rose1995 on November 22, 2020, 02:30:34 PM
I think you are wrong OP with those bloggers, youtubers and free lancers are also doing their things as a job. They could not earn if they do not make some videos, articles or some sort of informational substance that will be cast to the community or the audience of that certain platform. They earn through the ads that pop out and the number of ads that will going to advertise will also determine their profit. If you wanted to have a passive income then invest on things that can earn you even without doing nothing.
I don't think it's a job. But it is a paid hobby. For me, they are not working, but have fun. Taking up hobbies and earning a living in the modern person's way of having fun. We can all do that if we can smart think. I mean is. If we have hobbies and talents. We can make money from anything we want to do.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: EdenHazard on November 22, 2020, 02:41:39 PM

 ;D ;D ;D
YouTube, gamers, free lance, hackers

No need a #job and will never need one.

Employers, businessmen, government, banker, welfare, social leeches can btfo.

It’s the future, without a money system manipulated by a central banker FED, people can finally achieve freedom.
Guess what? You must have very few friends ..

And then how about a lover? Hard to find one? If you lucky enough then bravo as I've been  doing what so called 'jobless' shit in this judgemental society ..  hard to find one unless if you have been in relationship with her since school or something.
Society would always see you as a loser until you show them up a luxury shit that they can't afford to buy one. True?


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: poodle63 on November 22, 2020, 03:05:10 PM
I think you are wrong OP with those bloggers, youtubers and free lancers are also doing their things as a job. They could not earn if they do not make some videos, articles or some sort of informational substance that will be cast to the community or the audience of that certain platform. They earn through the ads that pop out and the number of ads that will going to advertise will also determine their profit. If you wanted to have a passive income then invest on things that can earn you even without doing nothing.
I don't think it's a job. But it is a paid hobby. For me, they are not working, but have fun. Taking up hobbies and earning a living in the modern person's way of having fun. We can all do that if we can smart think. I mean is. If we have hobbies and talents. We can make money from anything we want to do.
Its indeed a job. Try to do freelance after quite the time it will turn into a chore same as having a job. Fun at first then it becomes a chore but try to become truly jobless with no income even a cent its gonna feels like living a hell. You gonna feel somewhat inadequate or not self-sufficient that you want to get your job back at whatever cost.
But at the end of the day if you feel good having no job then that's definitely okay.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Broly46 on November 22, 2020, 03:49:05 PM
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I am one of the people who managed to achieve some financial freedom through my work in Crypto, indeed this is Crypto Time, it has changed my life from the worst to the better.
Although I am an employee and have a monthly salary, but it is insignificant and does not cover only a small part of my daily needs, but now through my work in Crypto, I can get additional income that is better than my salary and covers all my expenses.
There are a lot of things that can be done on crypto, writing in forums, investing, trading, staking and much more that you can earn from and make a good income.

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Bingo, plenty of success story in crypto, are there any successful people in job market??

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Guess what? You must have very few friends ..

And then how about a lover? Hard to find one? If you lucky enough then bravo as I've been  doing what so called 'jobless' shit in this judgemental society ..  hard to find one unless if you have been in relationship with her since school or something.
Society would always see you as a loser until you show them up a luxury shit that they can't afford to buy one. True?

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Yeah!! You can read all the misogynistic people, Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk has no lovers, are they losers???

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Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: BrewMaster on November 22, 2020, 04:00:56 PM
i think you may be confusing some terminology here. there is a difference between having no job (jobless) and being self-employed. the examples you mentioned in OP such as freelancer are self-employed not jobless.

the only people who are truly "jobless" are the bums living under a bridge or the millionaire kiddos who are living off their parents money.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Kupid002 on November 22, 2020, 04:11:56 PM

 ;D ;D ;D
YouTube, gamers, free lance, hackers

No need a #job and will never need one.

Employers, businessmen, government, banker, welfare, social leeches can btfo.

It’s the future, without a money system manipulated by a central banker FED, people can finally achieve freedom.

As long you are earning enough online I don't think you need to have regular job . Having regular job is a pain for everyone and many are already trapped in the thought that if  you have no job you don't have money. It's a trap that should be stop it hinders your development as a person . We are lucky that we are in the era that we have many other option to earn Rather than join a job that most people do not want to have.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Tamim121 on November 22, 2020, 04:13:11 PM
Wow!! This is too long time, man! I also enjoying my freedom life. I'm doing Bounty task in this great forum. Also invest money in potential coin. Also im doing trade. Besides Crypto I'm now trying to be a SEO master. This is a freelancing sector and this sector have too many work to generate money. I think this life is much better than job life. My life, my rules.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Oceat on November 22, 2020, 04:29:22 PM
The terminology is kind of misinterpreted by OP but anyway, let me get this straight to the point. You shouldn't be over confident of what you have right now without thinking the worst case scenario since nothing is permanent and anytime that worst case scenario that you didn't expect might hit you hard. Be flexible when dealing with money just like how you invest in crypto currency, diversify everything to minimize the risk. Always make a backup plan.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Broly46 on November 22, 2020, 07:41:46 PM
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i think you may be confusing some terminology here. there is a difference between having no job (jobless) and being self-employed. the examples you mentioned in OP such as freelancer are self-employed not jobless.

the only people who are truly "jobless" are the bums living under a bridge or the millionaire kiddos who are living off their parents money.

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Before the internet kick in on the late 20th century, a job is without doubt, a stable paying 9 to 5, with plenty of retirement benefit, and just a couple of decades they’re calling everything else is a job? Fine then I’m wanna be the latter.

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As long you are earning enough online I don't think you need to have regular job . Having regular job is a pain for everyone and many are already trapped in the thought that if  you have no job you don't have money. It's a trap that should be stop it hinders your development as a person . We are lucky that we are in the era that we have many other option to earn Rather than join a job that most people do not want to have.

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Well, it pretty much sum up most of the people who going to school to get a job, we aren’t so lucky having plenty of job on the market, after the market crashes in 2008, something absolutely terrible has occurred, but many are living in denial and they’re still going to school to get a job, I wish them all the best.

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The terminology is kind of misinterpreted by OP but anyway, let me get this straight to the point. You shouldn't be over confident of what you have right now without thinking the worst case scenario since nothing is permanent and anytime that worst case scenario that you didn't expect might hit you hard. Be flexible when dealing with money just like how you invest in crypto currency, diversify everything to minimize the risk. Always make a backup plan.

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I’m pretty sure they will soon calling mining bitcoin with computer is a job too, your computer are working while you doing nothing but just click on the button, well then everything is a job, then what isn’t a job? Just lay on the bed and doing nothing, that might be the only thing that isn’t a job.

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Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: AmoreJaz on November 22, 2020, 07:59:57 PM
i think you may be confusing some terminology here. there is a difference between having no job (jobless) and being self-employed. the examples you mentioned in OP such as freelancer are self-employed not jobless.

the only people who are truly "jobless" are the bums living under a bridge or the millionaire kiddos who are living off their parents money.

yes, i dont consider freelancers as jobless but self-employed. you are still doing your job but in your own time and being the boss of yourself. freelancing is common nowadays, as a lot of jobs can now be source out via net.
 however, you need to take care of your own insurance and filing of other paperworks. but there are a lot of perks of being your own boss. not many can afford to have this lifestyle. but if youre one of the lucky ones that can survive in this arrangement, you will enjoy the freedom from being tied-up with 9-5 job and have more time with your family.
i guess a lot of people are now doing freelancing esp in this pandemic crisis. work at home is the new norm!  ;D


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: hatshepsut93 on November 22, 2020, 08:30:09 PM
It’s the future, without a money system manipulated by a central banker FED, people can finally achieve freedom.

You really believe that no central banks means some sort of different economic system without boss-employee relationship? Maybe you also believe that abolishing central banks will cure cancer or something?

People will always be complaining that they have to wake up every day and go to work, in middle ages you had serfdom, then there was unregulated capitalism, now we have 8 hour work days with tons of benefits that our ancestors would kill for, but people still think that going to work is some sort of torture.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Broly46 on November 22, 2020, 08:32:48 PM
i think you may be confusing some terminology here. there is a difference between having no job (jobless) and being self-employed. the examples you mentioned in OP such as freelancer are self-employed not jobless.

the only people who are truly "jobless" are the bums living under a bridge or the millionaire kiddos who are living off their parents money.

yes, i dont consider freelancers as jobless but self-employed. you are still doing your job but in your own time and being the boss of yourself. freelancing is common nowadays, as a lot of jobs can now be source out via net.
 however, you need to take care of your own insurance and filing of other paperworks. but there are a lot of perks of being your own boss. not many can afford to have this lifestyle. but if youre one of the lucky ones that can survive in this arrangement, you will enjoy the freedom from being tied-up with 9-5 job and have more time with your family.
i guess a lot of people are now doing freelancing esp in this pandemic crisis. work at home is the new norm!  ;D

It might be reason they’re telling us unemployment rate are 0.0001%, because there is literally everything is a job, whether you get paid minimum wage or you get paid $1 an hour, they’re very great way to twist the economy I would give them a cookie for colluding at this rate.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: coolcoinz on November 22, 2020, 08:46:46 PM
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i think you may be confusing some terminology here. there is a difference between having no job (jobless) and being self-employed. the examples you mentioned in OP such as freelancer are self-employed not jobless.

the only people who are truly "jobless" are the bums living under a bridge or the millionaire kiddos who are living off their parents money.

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Before the internet kick in on the late 20th century, a job is without doubt, a stable paying 9 to 5, with plenty of retirement benefit, and just a couple of decades they’re calling everything else is a job? Fine then I’m wanna be the latter.


Do you think there were no contractors in the 70s or 80s? People who had a trade, but they had no employer or a stable job?
I'll give you some examples. My father's friend was never employed. He had a farm that sustained his family and lived like that for about 60 years. He was never poor. People would come and buy honey from him (he kept bees), milk, eggs, apples, but his everyday job was basically to feed the animals and take care of the garden.

I agree with BrewMaster that you all "jobless" people really have jobs. You think that you need to have a boss and a contract to have a job, but you're wrong. When my neighbor asks me to cut his grass once a week, that's a job. My forum campaign that pays me every week is a job. 


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Broly46 on November 22, 2020, 09:08:35 PM
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It’s the future, without a money system manipulated by a central banker FED, people can finally achieve freedom.

You really believe that no central banks means some sort of different economic system without boss-employee relationship? Maybe you also believe that abolishing central banks will cure cancer or something?

People will always be complaining that they have to wake up every day and go to work, in middle ages you had serfdom, then there was unregulated capitalism, now we have 8 hour work days with tons of benefits that our ancestors would kill for, but people still think that going to work is some sort of torture.

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Well, it’s the central bank which create chaos and give birth to the project bitcoin, they’re going to living in denial for the eternity while bitcoin changing the entire world without their knowledge.

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Do you think there were no contractors in the 70s or 80s? People who had a trade, but they had no employer or a stable job?
I'll give you some examples. My father's friend was never employed. He had a farm that sustained his family and lived like that for about 60 years. He was never poor. People would come and buy honey from him (he kept bees), milk, eggs, apples, but his everyday job was basically to feed the animals and take care of the garden.

I agree with BrewMaster that you all "jobless" people really have jobs. You think that you need to have a boss and a contract to have a job, but you're wrong. When my neighbor asks me to cut his grass once a week, that's a job. My forum campaign that pays me every week is a job.  

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Hat off to the farmer who actually contribute to the world, by producing harvest, food and feeding the town,  that would be a complete foreign idea to me to work on the farm for 60 years, it take a lot of determination and sweat, btw time changed quickly and we had a tough time to catch up with the changes, we should be quite lucky to adopted to crypto earlier than anybody else, because we believe it’s the future. :)

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Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Fortify on November 22, 2020, 10:04:01 PM
There are plenty of ways to make money online, however there is usually some sort of build up time required before it can generate enough income to support someone. As long as you are consistent and you are willing to test lots of different routes to make money, you should be able to find something. That being said, some people find comfort from having a steady income and reliable source of revenue that doesn't require too much creativity. Others will have a full time job while they make extra money through an online side venture, so they are able to make a much greater sum in the long term. Essentially having a job is required for most to pay bills like rent and it's not possible to instantly switch to an online only income for most people - but still worth a try if it's attractive to you.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on November 22, 2020, 11:37:57 PM
YouTube, gamers, free lance, hackers
No need a #job and will never need one.
Employers, businessmen, government, banker, welfare, social leeches can btfo.
It’s the future, without a money system manipulated by a central banker FED, people can finally achieve freedom.
If you are able to build a career without going for a regular job then it is great, achieving freedom from a boss a achieving a financial freedom is entirely different, the market is really saturated and if you have the skills to entertain a crowd you could make money with social media, when it comes to freelancing jobs it is yet another pressure game as there are bidding wars as there are too many people doing those jobs.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: dimonstration on November 22, 2020, 11:42:38 PM
Having no regular job is not a problem at when you do have a consistent sidelines like trading, bounty campaigns or online selling. I'm unemployed for 2yrs but I'd been so busy more in these 2 years with different online works, investing and trading as well online selling. We should diversify also not just in investing but also in time management. These prices movements in crypto when we managed to monitor it we can really do earn.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: CarnagexD on November 22, 2020, 11:49:32 PM
Currently unemployed and in my 2 month's streak of not finding one! Only got cryptocurrency as my money-makijg mschine and so far everything's really good! Proud for you though knowing you got from where you are in 10 years of not being a corporate slave which is really awesome. Jobs are still important but with the growing awareness of people to the cruelty of the concept and the rise of automation, it's no surprise that all of us will find ways to earn more money not finding jobs!


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: FlightyPouch on November 22, 2020, 11:54:00 PM
We have our own achievements and the paths we wanted in life, I think it would be great doing great being unemployed but that might not be a end goal for some people. They wanted lifelong careers, they have these goals in life and these degrees. It is great for you guys to in that position but lets appreciate those people doing jobs that is essential to us and the country.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Stedsm on November 22, 2020, 11:58:20 PM
You forgot BTC.  8)
And yeah, being jobless has been the best job one can have nowadays because that person can do what they want to do, whenever they want to do and in what volume do they want to do. Freelance is like a business without actually having one (like you can't really call it a business but working on your own conditions). There's not a lot you need to succeed in freelancing, patience and focus on your skills as well as polishing them time to time is what it takes to become the best freelancer ever. I respect you and your 10+ years and hope everything had been smooth for you and may always be the best for you.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Shasha80 on November 23, 2020, 01:33:07 AM
I've also been unemployed for about two years. Initially, I didn't want to work, but it is difficult to find a well-paying job.
Finally, for the past two years I have focused on making money from the internet. Such as trading, bounty hunter, captcha typist,
online shop and youtube. Didn't expect the income I got per month to exceed my income when working as a bank employee.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: michellee on November 23, 2020, 02:03:27 AM
I am trying to focus on crypto, but I am trying to do a new business with my family. I guess that it is working okay until now, and in this pandemic, we can still make money in many ways. If we are trying hard to make money, we will have that with or without having a job in real life because right now, many chances that we can do because we have the internet, which helps us make money.

Yes, by searching for a job on the internet, we can still make money. Even if we are only trying to do trading, that can fill our needs monthly.

So the key is never to give up, and if we are not found something better, we need to keep trying.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: magneto on November 23, 2020, 03:22:04 AM
Good for you. And this is a growing trend in countries with inefficient job markets and/or a low universal wage.

Especially during the COVID pandemic, it doesn't quite make sense for people who have recently just lost their jobs to slave away for measly dollars finding new employment where they are underemployed when they can find much better opportunities online (given they have skills).

Be flexible and be ready to upskill. I think that is the mantra in this modern job environment.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: justdimin on November 23, 2020, 04:29:11 AM
Wow!! This is too long time, man! I also enjoying my freedom life. I'm doing Bounty task in this great forum. Also invest money in potential coin. Also im doing trade. Besides Crypto I'm now trying to be a SEO master. This is a freelancing sector and this sector have too many work to generate money. I think this life is much better than job life. My life, my rules.
Yeah, being your own boss also means you earn based on how much you work and yeah bounty used to be a great way of earning but recently I have seen people complaining about bounty programs. One such thread that focusses on problems for bounty hunters - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5288592.0

SEO is not an easy job but once you specialize yourself into it, the earnings are amazing and you hardly ever feel the lack of work because every other business is now coming online and they require guys who can do some serious search engine optimization and marketing for their business in this competitive market.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Durgesh728 on November 23, 2020, 04:59:24 AM
You should always have passive source of income, but getting job is not that easy in countries like india, were competition is really high.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: uneng on November 23, 2020, 08:05:51 AM
It's a matter of time until people will have nowadays hobbies as full time jobs in the near future. Technology is evolving fast and taking the most repetitive and hardworking tasks humans have been doing since centuries ago. Once these jobs don't exist anymore what will people do for a living?
Of course human kind will have to adapt themselves to this new world and be creative to find new sources of income. And I'm sure internet will play the main role when this happens. Most people, if not all, will have to live from an internet income. When people say crypto currency is the future they aren't kidding.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Alucard1 on November 23, 2020, 08:18:28 AM
Youtuber and freelancer are also doing their work to earn money, if they don't do something then they wouldn't earn money, no output, no money as well. This cryptocurrency makes us good in a way that we could earn money even though we don have a career, we don't need to go outside, we can earn money working at home even though we are lying, that is why bitcoin and the market are good because of the convenience. Just make sure that you have good knowledge about it.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Kakmakr on November 23, 2020, 08:24:51 AM
The problem with a lot of people these days are the fact that governments are making it easy for people not to have to work. In many countries, high unemployment and the lack of jobs are forcing governments to pay social grants to the people that cannot find jobs and this is all funded by middle and upper income groups that are also suffering to survive in these difficult times.

So the jobless give up and simply live off these grants and the employed people gets taxed to death to fund it. We need to get more "online" job opportunities with decent payment and also some benefits. (These Streamers and Freelancers gets no benefits and only a small percentage of them do well enough to provide it for themselves.)  :(


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: crwth on November 23, 2020, 08:40:05 AM
Isn't it that what makes those things, YouTube and Gamers, exists because of jobs? It exists because there are people who make games and get paid for it = Job. YouTube cannot exist if no people monitor and make sure that it does the way it is. Freelancers wouldn't have their tools if it weren't for the developers' jobs made by a company, the employer. People can achieve freedom anytime, but can you be comfortable knowing that freedom is not knowing when you will get food?

The job market is becoming more specialized and more focused on different fields. It's just up to you to be up for the job. Whether or not you like jobs or not, people are still counting on it for a living, and it wouldn't stop now. It's different for everyone; whether you want a job or not, not everyone gets to have that opportunity. Be grateful you don't need one and still live comfortably.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Broly46 on November 23, 2020, 08:49:58 AM
You forgot BTC.  8)
And yeah, being jobless has been the best job one can have nowadays because that person can do what they want to do, whenever they want to do and in what volume do they want to do. Freelance is like a business without actually having one (like you can't really call it a business but working on your own conditions). There's not a lot you need to succeed in freelancing, patience and focus on your skills as well as polishing them time to time is what it takes to become the best freelancer ever. I respect you and your 10+ years and hope everything had been smooth for you and may always be the best for you.

Making correct life decision is always big part of a successful plan, because you only live once, make a bad decision you waste a lot of your time, nobody can buy back time, and wasting big part of life on a JOB will always the worst decision one can make, it’s not a surprise at all.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Broly46 on November 23, 2020, 08:54:19 AM
I've also been unemployed for about two years. Initially, I didn't want to work, but it is difficult to find a well-paying job.
Finally, for the past two years I have focused on making money from the internet. Such as trading, bounty hunter, captcha typist,
online shop and youtube. Didn't expect the income I got per month to exceed my income when working as a bank employee.

I don’t like working for a employer, I actually quit within the probation a highly paid job, because it’s suck to selling my soul to this job market and getting absolutely drained, whether get older by a few years worth of getting that pay, nope, I’m not regret to quit the job, because they can’t value my potential, my potential is unlimited not confined on their judgement, and I had prove to them I don’t need them for 10 years and still doing great!


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Broly46 on November 23, 2020, 09:03:09 AM
Good for you. And this is a growing trend in countries with inefficient job markets and/or a low universal wage.

Especially during the COVID pandemic, it doesn't quite make sense for people who have recently just lost their jobs to slave away for measly dollars finding new employment where they are underemployed when they can find much better opportunities online (given they have skills).

Be flexible and be ready to upskill. I think that is the mantra in this modern job environment.

Yeah the job market is a JOKE, there is literally judging you based on how much money you can ROB the society on your product, they don’t want a product that’s great all they care is profit, that’s fine then, if the profit is all that matter we would eventually get into this never ending rabbit hole where we seek destruction over progression, yup this is the world we are having right now where profit rule, I love to see this world burn and soon the government employers bank social leeches and all of them will suffer the most, look at them right now, they’re all over the place and making noise, that put a smile on my face, because they finally feel the pain of their own creation.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: plvbob0070 on November 23, 2020, 12:29:08 PM
I don't think it's good to rely on just being a YouTuber or gamer and such since it's only temporary unless you already have the name in that industry. Also, I have seen a lot of people trying to be a vlogger and a gamer but not everyone has the same opportunity to gain popularity and income from it. But being a freelancer can still be considered having a job, even if it has no benefits like the usual worker. It's good for you that you don't need to be working for others to earn income since you were able to do that in several ways.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: KnightElite on November 23, 2020, 01:34:08 PM
I do not have job but it doesn't mean that I just being dependent on my parents and my family for me to live, I have businesses and I managed different portfolios in cryptocurrency and stock market. If you say job, usually those people are the employees who are working for someone or working for corporations. I'm self employed where I'm a trader and I use my skills in order to fulfill the services needed by someone. Actually you can really survive without applying for jobs because there are a lot of opportunities in different types of market. 

I'm a type of person who have good mindset wherein I want to become a investor or a self employed than to become a employee. I also hate applying jobs and for me it is a waste of time even though there are some benefits. I said it is a waste of time because my skills are becoming waste if I just become employee.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Sithara007 on November 23, 2020, 02:55:54 PM
i think you may be confusing some terminology here. there is a difference between having no job (jobless) and being self-employed. the examples you mentioned in OP such as freelancer are self-employed not jobless.

the only people who are truly "jobless" are the bums living under a bridge or the millionaire kiddos who are living off their parents money.

I agree. I was also confused by the heading. Making YouTube videos and writing blogs takes a lot of time and effort. And there is always a huge risk of your effort going unrewarded. I am someone who tried blogging a decade back, but I never got the amount of visitors or advertisement revenue that I hoped for. Not everyone can indulge in to these niche fields. On top of hard work, it also requires a lot of talent and skill in different domains.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: FanEagle on November 23, 2020, 03:45:38 PM
I have been "jobless" for 5+ years as well, I do not find it any effective to try to get to a regular job where you have to wake up very early, go to a place with a bus, work there for 8 hours not really working for all of it and just killing time in most of it, then go back to your home at night for maybe dinner time (maybe not even that) watch a show and sleep and repeat that. This type of life that was pressured people to live for few hours a day of their life really doesn't make sense to me, I could find a job tomorrow if I want to but that method is not for me at all.

So, I have been freelancing for 5+ years now and I am very happy about it, I make my own time, I work whenever I want to and I do not kill time here, when I have a job to do I work and other times I can do whatever I want to.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: BrewMaster on November 23, 2020, 03:58:21 PM
i think you may be confusing some terminology here. there is a difference between having no job (jobless) and being self-employed. the examples you mentioned in OP such as freelancer are self-employed not jobless.

the only people who are truly "jobless" are the bums living under a bridge or the millionaire kiddos who are living off their parents money.

yes, i dont consider freelancers as jobless but self-employed. you are still doing your job but in your own time and being the boss of yourself. freelancing is common nowadays, as a lot of jobs can now be source out via net.
 however, you need to take care of your own insurance and filing of other paperworks. but there are a lot of perks of being your own boss. not many can afford to have this lifestyle. but if youre one of the lucky ones that can survive in this arrangement, you will enjoy the freedom from being tied-up with 9-5 job and have more time with your family.
i guess a lot of people are now doing freelancing esp in this pandemic crisis. work at home is the new norm!  ;D

another good thing about being self-employed is that you have a much better job security than an employed person because it is all in your control and it is a lot more predictable than being employed by a company for example that can fire you (for example for downsizing) or just go under. but i agree that it is harder and is not for everyone.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: oHnK on November 23, 2020, 04:05:48 PM
Are you sure you consider YouTubers, gamers, and freelancers to be jobless?  Maybe I want to make things right, they are not jobless, but they are working the way they are taking and according to their passion.  Nowadays, the world has shifted slightly with the concept of working for many people, it used to be very different.
 
In the past, people who did not work regularly for 8 hours at the office were considered unemployed, but nowadays there are many job options that someone can choose.  And in the future around 10 years, maybe more people will spend their working time at home or anywhere.  Some job professions will no longer be hired by companies because they will be replaced by freelancers.  Such as accountants, data scientists, and many more.  Companies don't need to hire someone to stay in their office to work on financial reports or even data from the company, they just need freelancers and cut a lot of routine company costs.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Stedsm on November 23, 2020, 04:24:47 PM
another good thing about being self-employed is that you have a much better job security than an employed person because it is all in your control and it is a lot more predictable than being employed by a company for example that can fire you (for example for downsizing) or just go under. but i agree that it is harder and is not for everyone.

Exactly. My brother and his friend were working for a company since 2010, so it's almost a decade since they've been serving them. Now, after this Corona came, the company went on to trim the number of total workers in their company and there's literally nothing wrong in doing that. But both of them gave their 100% to the company and these 2 were the only ones to be working for that company for a decade, all others have changed in a period of time every few years and some even during months. The company even removed both of them and gave reason that as they've become too old members of the company, they need retirement. So the company is removing them, that's shit. Even I took it like freelancers are jobless but my meaning here is they're JOB-less as they don't really have a "job" that needs them to remain present everyday 9 to 5 as well as simply earn their living on their own conditions. Living on your own is something you can't really earn through a day-to-day job but an independent self-employed work.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Broly46 on November 23, 2020, 04:30:22 PM
Isn't it that what makes those things, YouTube and Gamers, exists because of jobs? It exists because there are people who make games and get paid for it = Job. YouTube cannot exist if no people monitor and make sure that it does the way it is. Freelancers wouldn't have their tools if it weren't for the developers' jobs made by a company, the employer. People can achieve freedom anytime, but can you be comfortable knowing that freedom is not knowing when you will get food?

The job market is becoming more specialized and more focused on different fields. It's just up to you to be up for the job. Whether or not you like jobs or not, people are still counting on it for a living, and it wouldn't stop now. It's different for everyone; whether you want a job or not, not everyone gets to have that opportunity. Be grateful you don't need one and still live comfortably.

Are you sure you consider YouTubers, gamers, and freelancers to be jobless?  Maybe I want to make things right, they are not jobless, but they are working the way they are taking and according to their passion.  Nowadays, the world has shifted slightly with the concept of working for many people, it used to be very different.
 
In the past, people who did not work regularly for 8 hours at the office were considered unemployed, but nowadays there are many job options that someone can choose.  And in the future around 10 years, maybe more people will spend their working time at home or anywhere.  Some job professions will no longer be hired by companies because they will be replaced by freelancers.  Such as accountants, data scientists, and many more.  Companies don't need to hire someone to stay in their office to work on financial reports or even data from the company, they just need freelancers and cut a lot of routine company costs.

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That’s some amount of denial, I’m extremely interested on how you guy write on your job resume, your job experience: “making YouTube videos, play games, sleep, mining bitcoin, freelance, hacking, bounty hunter manager.

I’m sure all of you will be kick out of the interview room to write on that resume. :) nice joke BTW.

Nope you should never write those on the resume to be serious, nobody will call that a job. Not your parent, not your employers, not your government too.

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Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Broly46 on November 23, 2020, 05:10:34 PM
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It's a matter of time until people will have nowadays hobbies as full time jobs in the near future. Technology is evolving fast and taking the most repetitive and hardworking tasks humans have been doing since centuries ago. Once these jobs don't exist anymore what will people do for a living?
Of course human kind will have to adapt themselves to this new world and be creative to find new sources of income. And I'm sure internet will play the main role when this happens. Most people, if not all, will have to live from an internet income. When people say crypto currency is the future they aren't kidding.

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That will be a challenge to tell old people to make some income over the internet, it might even be a challenge to tell your teacher too that you don’t need to go to school to get a job because you have internet income! That’s sound bizarre you are living a totally isolated world that very few people know about it, but it has been around for quite some time.

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The problem with a lot of people these days are the fact that governments are making it easy for people not to have to work. In many countries, high unemployment and the lack of jobs are forcing governments to pay social grants to the people that cannot find jobs and this is all funded by middle and upper income groups that are also suffering to survive in these difficult times.

So the jobless give up and simply live off these grants and the employed people gets taxed to death to fund it. We need to get more "online" job opportunities with decent payment and also some benefits. (These Streamers and Freelancers gets no benefits and only a small percentage of them do well enough to provide it for themselves.)  :(

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I’m unsure of government involvement into job market, they’re not hiring a lot of people, the government reserve a few slot for the people who want to work for the government, which promise great pension benefit and bonus, I think it is the thing of the past, but I believe the pension has been getting a lot of pay cut, and thing are getting dire after the 2008, and we have all sort of corruption going on, and there is absolutely no job since then.

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Isn't it that what makes those things, YouTube and Gamers, exists because of jobs? It exists because there are people who make games and get paid for it = Job. YouTube cannot exist if no people monitor and make sure that it does the way it is. Freelancers wouldn't have their tools if it weren't for the developers' jobs made by a company, the employer. People can achieve freedom anytime, but can you be comfortable knowing that freedom is not knowing when you will get food?

The job market is becoming more specialized and more focused on different fields. It's just up to you to be up for the job. Whether or not you like jobs or not, people are still counting on it for a living, and it wouldn't stop now. It's different for everyone; whether you want a job or not, not everyone gets to have that opportunity. Be grateful you don't need one and still live comfortably.

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I’m sure YouTube didn’t start out as a job for commoners, since google acquire it and monetise the video content, a lot of talents come to it and make freelance musics content, namely VEVO etc, and it was a booming business during its peak. The same with gaming, gamers didn’t get paid for playing games, they’re doing it just to not get bored, and it’s absolutely intrigue to know gamers get paid for gaming, well I might not able to catch up with this changes. Also the virtual in game currency is not really a money, it can only be spend on the game itself, there is some changes that I can’t explain myself, because the virtual currency from the games is slowly getting into a currency of a real world, that’s some absurd thing going on, but nobody have an answer for that.

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Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: SirLancelot on November 23, 2020, 05:21:40 PM
It is true that youtube and other streaming websites have opened a new market and great opportunities but it is not easy because having to play a game professionally is not easy as you receive criticism for small mistakes and appreciation for good plays but this means you slowly lose interest in the game itself and you are now playing the game just for money and views.

I have seen great youtubers and streamers being upset about their career because they struggle to find new and refreshing content constantly and the viewers have multiple gamers to view so if you fail to upload consistently and constantly you will lose your audience.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Chrystora123 on November 23, 2020, 05:29:16 PM
the only people who are truly "jobless" are the bums living under a bridge or the millionaire kiddos who are living off their parents money.
Ouchh, millionaires who live off their parents' money will be hurt to read this.  we should be grateful at this time because technological developments and the internet have created opportunities for "new jobs".  those who are unemployed in this era are just "real lazy people"..


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: doomloop on November 23, 2020, 05:38:11 PM
As long you are earning enough online I don't think you need to have regular job .
But, you must have the capability to keep that earning going for an elongated period because sometimes online earnings easy but they are temporary and unstable like you might earn $1k in a single month but remain workless for months after that.

Having regular job is a pain for everyone and many are already trapped in the thought that if  you have no job you don't have money. It's a trap that should be stop it hinders your development as a person . We are lucky that we are in the era that we have many other option to earn Rather than join a job that most people do not want to have.
Job is made for people who are satisfied with limited earnings but at the same time need some regularity in life. Youtube has been great for everyone because anyone can shoot videos and upload them and based on how much their videos are worth they will gain views and earlier it was impossible for a common man to find such a platform where they can showcase their talent without spending anything.
 
I myself watch a lot of magic videos so yeah great way for viewers too to watch anything they want without spending money.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: MCobian on November 23, 2020, 05:49:15 PM
I work in the company as an employee and spend 8 hours in the office. I feel as torment, because I honestly don't enjoy my life.
I've been doing this for years, to be honest I'm stressed out living a life like that. Finally, in 2019 I couldn't take it anymore,  I resigned
from the company where I worked. At first I had financial difficulties, because I used to have a steady income every month.

But after a year of trying to make money from the internet and now I don't regret resigning. Because my income from the internet is
much greater and I am free to set my own working hours. And finally I can enjoy my life. Remember I don't invite other people to resign
from their jobs. I only share about my story.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on November 23, 2020, 06:48:25 PM
I think you are wrong OP with those bloggers, youtubers and free lancers are also doing their things as a job. They could not earn if they do not make some videos, articles or some sort of informational substance that will be cast to the community or the audience of that certain platform. They earn through the ads that pop out and the number of ads that will going to advertise will also determine their profit. If you wanted to have a passive income then invest on things that can earn you even without doing nothing.
I agree 100%
They ARE earning a living doing what they do. The fact they they love their work is of course a huge perk but for this discussion is also beside the point - it is still a job.

Based on the fact that as head of R&D and systems design/building (industrial lasers) I could say that I've been 'jobless' for almost 42 years because since founding our company in 1978 along with another Engineer I answer to no one aside from our customers and my company bottom-line. Yes, I love my JOB.

If you stop posting/making vids/day trading/ whatever, guess what - ya soon run out of money....


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Traderbtcc on November 23, 2020, 06:57:25 PM

 ;D ;D ;D
YouTube, gamers, free lance, hackers

No need a #job and will never need one.

Employers, businessmen, government, banker, welfare, social leeches can btfo.

It’s the future, without a money system manipulated by a central banker FED, people can finally achieve freedom.
Wow 10 good years without a job?, I bet you must be doing something that pays better than those jobs out there, indeed the job market is a joke that's why I didn't bother to look for one when I got to the age, jobs are just overhyped with little or no freedom, always answering to someone "YOUR BOSS" who pays you little amount of money after you help him make sh*t load of money, thanks to bitcoin I'm doing what I love which is trading and investing,i have all the freedom i need, I don't answer to anyone, neither do u have to wait till weekends to spend time with my family ;).


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Krabby on November 23, 2020, 07:20:34 PM

 ;D ;D ;D
YouTube, gamers, free lance, hackers

No need a #job and will never need one.

Employers, businessmen, government, banker, welfare, social leeches can btfo.

It’s the future, without a money system manipulated by a central banker FED, people can finally achieve freedom.
It must be said that this has to depend on each person's luck. ;D
Because if we are unemployed for 10 years, we will definitely have no money and everyone will look at us with scornful eyes. Anyway, I still see the jobs are very important, they help us to make money and do the things we love and does not necessarily bring us success.
At the same time, participating in the labor market is also a way for us to directly contribute to a more developed economy.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on November 23, 2020, 07:28:59 PM
Why is it a joke? I feel the job market is good because it gives us the opportunity to thrive in an environment that you love.
Being in the labor force is not a joke, and OP is in the minority with his opinion--but he's certainly entitled to it.

Not everyone wants to trade, mine crypto, or whatever else you can do from home, and certainly a lot of people have enough knowledge/talent to make a living without having to get a job.  Nor would the world even function properly if people didn't work.  There would be no Amazon, no grocery stores, nobody manufacturing automobiles or anything else...so there's that.

I think OP is a complete fucking liar, though.  If he's claiming he's been supporting himself for the past 10 years with no job, I'd like to see some proof of that--or else it's just hot air being blown up everyone's asses.  And what are you doing for health insurance?


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: arallmuus on November 23, 2020, 09:27:10 PM
That will be a challenge to tell old people to make some income over the internet

Pretty close to impossible challenge. I even had a hard time teaching my grandma how to properly order an uber let alone some magical money from the internet. Thats not going to happen atleast for the old generation.

it might even be a challenge to tell your teacher too that you don’t need to go to school to get a job because you have internet income! That’s sound bizarre you are living a totally isolated world that very few people know about it, but it has been around for quite some time.

You still need to go to school though. The only reason that you care to make some money is because you go to school and understand completely that your food on the plate as well as all those bills are not free. If you dont go to school at all, I doubt that you will even have the ambition to earn some money . You probably will turn into some cheeky rascal that will live on your parent's house forever without ever thinking of paying your own bill


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Yatsan on November 23, 2020, 10:11:35 PM
That is a pretty tough task to be done surviving your life being jobless for 10 years and that can be already considered as an achievement for surviving despite of being jobless. Maybe you are doing lots of things where you can still earn for a living and that makes you a tough one to consider yourself on surviving this difficult life where every individuals are seeking for a decent job to start with so they can have a fruitful life where they can have money to spend for their experiences.

But for a normal individual, it is nearly quite impossible to survive on a normal day having no job because there are lots of expenses to spend with specially now that the prices of commodities and basic needs are increasing due to some contributing factors. It is pretty awesome to hear that someone just survived 10 years being jobless but still that does not call for encouragement for you still must seek for a decent job where you can certainly rely so you can feel security as well as comfort that you have something to be a source of money for your daily life expenses. Having a job is still a must have no matter what it is as long as it is legible.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: BuNga_cute on November 23, 2020, 10:44:18 PM
I am one of those people who don't dare to take risks, so I always live my life in a safe way. Then knowing the opening post jobless
for 10 years and surviving is a very good achievement in my opinion. Because not everyone dares to do that, the thought of the opening
post regarding the world of work is very different from people in general. So on the other hand what the opening post did really inspired me,
but I was too scared to follow it.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: crwth on November 24, 2020, 12:39:28 AM
I’m sure YouTube didn’t start out as a job for commoners, since google acquire it and monetise the video content, a lot of talents come to it and make freelance musics content, namely VEVO etc, and it was a booming business during its peak. The same with gaming, gamers didn’t get paid for playing games, they’re doing it just to not get bored, and it’s absolutely intrigue to know gamers get paid for gaming, well I might not able to catch up with this changes.
I didn't mean YouTube as a YouTube job. I mean starting out YouTube has become a job. The creators of this have made it in the hopes that it would make jobs for everyone, and it did. The maintenance that it has requires employees to continue. I don't know why you are mentioning virtual money in here but what I'm telling you is that gamers wouldn't exist if there is no developers willing to get paid for it = employee = job.

Also the virtual in game currency is not really a money, it can only be spend on the game itself, there is some changes that I can’t explain myself, because the virtual currency from the games is slowly getting into a currency of a real world, that’s some absurd thing going on, but nobody have an answer for that.
If you can't explain yourself, I think you don't understand what you are saying.  ::)

I think I know what you mean. You want to say that you skip the menial job part and go to the end game where you have your own company and you will live out the rest of your life as your own "employee".


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: samcrypto on November 24, 2020, 12:55:53 AM

 ;D ;D ;D
YouTube, gamers, free lance, hackers

No need a #job and will never need one.

Employers, businessmen, government, banker, welfare, social leeches can btfo.

It’s the future, without a money system manipulated by a central banker FED, people can finally achieve freedom.
Youtubers and gamer are making a lot of money thru their content and you can actually live a better life without working to anyone and by just doing what you love. With my lifestyle and my financial needs today, I don't think I can survive for 10 years without actually having a decent job but of course I'm dreaming for this one. I'm currently working on my Youtube channel and I hope that I can succeed on this one and hopefully people will support my content as well.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: lixer on November 24, 2020, 10:26:27 AM
For how long are we going to be having that freedom? I have seen some things that really made me question how long the freedom is going to be as the government is always trying their best to penetrate into everything.

Anyway, with those jobs you have mentioned you can cash out from it with any means of payment. Then I have to add that you should have other means income as well, unless you really multiple means of income created already; like you mentioned YouTube, if you really have a YouTube channel with lots of subscribers then it’s really nice and will be fetching you good income, it’s a kind of thing that you’re not going to lose.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: shoreno on November 24, 2020, 10:44:57 AM
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YouTube, gamers, free lance, hackers
so this is what all your doing now ha op ? i know it was cool to have a skill or to work on these activies because you can work from your home but i think they lack of benefits and stability .

 i know im one of this because ive been also working from home as a free lancer but i sometimes have the urge to find a job from a real company to be able to secure my future  . when it comes to financial freedom we have cryptos now that we can use  . we dont need to depend on bank


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: reliable on November 24, 2020, 11:13:36 AM
Working the way, you want and having freedom from bosses is the best thing as nobody like that to be heard from you bosses and say yes always to him/her. At time you are helpless and cannot even leave due to no other source of income or due to family pressure. But if one can get the alternate correct and earn a decent income through various sources then can easily think about quitting and might even become a self-employed and even employee others if business start to grow.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: rodskee on November 24, 2020, 01:22:50 PM
i experienced 5 months of having no work when the company declared emergency closure. for that  months my head always turning what to do.

But you 10 years?How to be you Mate?  ;D ;D ;D

but the way you express yourself i can see that you are a successful person in your own way and having financial income for those years.

Good to know that Free lancers in your kinda way is also in success.Keep it up mate ..


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: oHnK on November 24, 2020, 02:00:53 PM
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That’s some amount of denial, I’m extremely interested on how you guy write on your job resume, your [b
job experience: “making YouTube videos, play games, sleep, mining bitcoin, freelance, hacking, bounty hunter manager. [/b]

I’m sure all of you will be kick out of the interview room to write on that resume. :) nice joke BTW.

Nope you should never write those on the resume to be serious, nobody will call that a job. Not your parent, not your employers, not your government too.

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Are you kidding, have you never made a portfolio of your work applying for a job, even many companies are now asking for additional portfolios of yourself in the form of blogs or other forms.  You can tell all of that if it is related to the job you are applying for, why hackers, gamers, bloggers cannot show their work and achievements in the form of a portfolio.  That is a plus for the company.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Broly46 on November 24, 2020, 02:46:47 PM
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I don't think it's good to rely on just being a YouTuber or gamer and such since it's only temporary unless you already have the name in that industry. Also, I have seen a lot of people trying to be a vlogger and a gamer but not everyone has the same opportunity to gain popularity and income from it. But being a freelancer can still be considered having a job, even if it has no benefits like the usual worker. It's good for you that you don't need to be working for others to earn income since you were able to do that in several ways.

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I can tell they’re going to be the history very soon because the profit they can cope on those platform are depleting fast, that’s why we begin to move to the next “big” thing, I believe it has to be something that many people enjoy doing it during lock down.

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I do not have job but it doesn't mean that I just being dependent on my parents and my family for me to live, I have businesses and I managed different portfolios in cryptocurrency and stock market. If you say job, usually those people are the employees who are working for someone or working for corporations. I'm self employed where I'm a trader and I use my skills in order to fulfill the services needed by someone. Actually you can really survive without applying for jobs because there are a lot of opportunities in different types of market. 

I'm a type of person who have good mindset wherein I want to become a investor or a self employed than to become a employee. I also hate applying jobs and for me it is a waste of time even though there are some benefits. I said it is a waste of time because my skills are becoming waste if I just become employee.

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That’s true, a lot of people regret wasting their time on a job that don’t appreciate their skill, doing something we will regret later will never get us ahead in life, I don’t think those gamer will ever regret they waste a lot of their time on gaming, the same for the other online “jobs”.

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I have been "jobless" for 5+ years as well, I do not find it any effective to try to get to a regular job where you have to wake up very early, go to a place with a bus, work there for 8 hours not really working for all of it and just killing time in most of it, then go back to your home at night for maybe dinner time (maybe not even that) watch a show and sleep and repeat that. This type of life that was pressured people to live for few hours a day of their life really doesn't make sense to me, I could find a job tomorrow if I want to but that method is not for me at all.

So, I have been freelancing for 5+ years now and I am very happy about it, I make my own time, I work whenever I want to and I do not kill time here, when I have a job to do I work and other times I can do whatever I want to.

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Yeah, the job market has be horrible for many years and they’re not improving, that make zero sense to get a job when the effort you spend outpace the benefit, oftentimes you can’t have saving at all working for a job and that’s not something unusual I had read some streamers rant about how they can’t save money working as a high paying executive, their pay check has to go to tax and whatever levies  that’s not really a part of their job agreement, but they’re not going to end, eventually nobody will want a job that most of their pay will go into somebody else.

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Are you sure you consider YouTubers, gamers, and freelancers to be jobless?  Maybe I want to make things right, they are not jobless, but they are working the way they are taking and according to their passion.  Nowadays, the world has shifted slightly with the concept of working for many people, it used to be very different.
 
In the past, people who did not work regularly for 8 hours at the office were considered unemployed, but nowadays there are many job options that someone can choose.  And in the future around 10 years, maybe more people will spend their working time at home or anywhere.  Some job professions will no longer be hired by companies because they will be replaced by freelancers.  Such as accountants, data scientists, and many more.  Companies don't need to hire someone to stay in their office to work on financial reports or even data from the company, they just need freelancers and cut a lot of routine company costs.

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Those “jobs” existed around this world for less than 10 years, yup, it might be some sort of “new job” if you insist it’s one, before 2008, we don’t have this sort of jobs to begin with and nobody would call that a job.

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Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: BTCappu on November 24, 2020, 03:12:37 PM
I am one of those people who don't dare to take risks, so I always live my life in a safe way. Then knowing the opening post jobless
for 10 years and surviving is a very good achievement in my opinion. Because not everyone dares to do that, the thought of the opening
post regarding the world of work is very different from people in general. So on the other hand what the opening post did really inspired me,
but I was too scared to follow it.
You do not have to quit your job to try these things actually. You can try these things like if you like singing then you can make a youtube channel and start posting your singing videos and if you get good interest you can start giving it more time and if that continues to happen and you get serious response from the public then you can swiftly quit your job and shift completely.

Often times people think they have to quit their job to try something new but that is not the case in reality, you have much more than you think if only you have the ability to engage that time in useful things and time management is the key.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: AniviaBtc on November 24, 2020, 06:29:36 PM
It doesn't mean that if you are jobless, you are useless in the society.

All of us do have different ways on how we will make ourselves successful and professional depending on our skill and effort.

With hard-work, investment, patience, and curiosity, I must say that I'm still doing fine and well because I deserved a lot of things right now even if I don't look for a job I just believed on myself for doing what I want. If you think that being jobless is also hopeless then you are wrong.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: justdimin on November 24, 2020, 06:54:14 PM
Youtubers and gamer are making a lot of money thru their content and you can actually live a better life without working to anyone and by just doing what you love. With my lifestyle and my financial needs today, I don't think I can survive for 10 years without actually having a decent job but of course I'm dreaming for this one. I'm currently working on my Youtube channel and I hope that I can succeed on this one and hopefully people will support my content as well.
Maybe you can take a moment and link your channel because this community is so good that you might find investors in fact for your videos if your content is good and sponsors are always looking for good content creators.

The problem with an average person is that we are hesitant to show our talents and underrate ourselves to such an extent that we consider ourself as useless and feel that the boss is doing a favor by hiring us and we must not even think of changing or quitting the current job. Always remember the boss is only paying you a part of the money he makes for the work you do for him and he is not doing any favors to you and the moment he finds a better option he will replace you so why not have the same attitude and leave your job once you have a better option.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on November 25, 2020, 05:40:29 AM
I work in the company as an employee and spend 8 hours in the office. I feel as torment, because I honestly don't enjoy my life.
I've been doing this for years, to be honest I'm stressed out living a life like that. Finally, in 2019 I couldn't take it anymore,  I resigned
from the company where I worked. At first I had financial difficulties, because I used to have a steady income every month.

But after a year of trying to make money from the internet and now I don't regret resigning. Because my income from the internet is
much greater and I am free to set my own working hours. And finally I can enjoy my life. Remember I don't invite other people to resign
from their jobs. I only share about my story.
I know a lot of people who have the same feeling that they feel being tormented by their job because every day they wake up all they do is doing the same thing and there is no fun nor enjoyment to it. It is why they also quit their jobs and started their own businesses that some of them I knew failed to make their own business and started to get back to their old jobs again, while some of them I knew have successfully created their own business and continue running and earning profit. I think this teaches me that everybody has their own destiny to follow because not all people have the same opportunity, even they have the same feeling, so good thing that you found your destiny in making money from the internet and in crypto investment.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: darewaller on November 25, 2020, 11:35:57 AM
I work in the company as an employee and spend 8 hours in the office. I feel as torment, because I honestly don't enjoy my life.
I can really feel the pain in your statement so my suggestion to anyone else who is going through such times please find some other job where your passion is because once you follow your passion and make it as your profession, you don't have to work in your life.

But after a year of trying to make money from the internet and now I don't regret resigning. Because my income from the internet is much greater and I am free to set my own working hours. And finally I can enjoy my life. Remember I don't invite other people to resign from their jobs. I only share about my story.
It takes courage for doing what you did but now one decision helped you remodel your life and do what you actually like doing. Leaving your job is even more difficult when you have a family because you have nightmares thinking how you are going to manage if you leave the job and hence you just keep working despite knowing you deserve better.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: vaultman on November 25, 2020, 10:18:57 PM
For countries with low wages, this is a great opportunity to make money and not work in a regular job, but, for example, the USA has some of the highest rates in the world, so in the USA you can just work and you will earn money for everything you need. Here you need to look at the situation in which you are. In any case, as a side job, working on the Internet is a great way to make money.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Rexler on November 25, 2020, 10:57:54 PM
That's quite sometime there, your probably doing well as a self employed individual, considering how the job market is lately, they are alot of low paying jobs out there they aren't worth waking up in the morning to, I too stopped working cause the payment was nothing to write home about, in my country some people get paid $20 per month, which is very low, after one month struggle oy to end up getting $20, my former job paid higher but I wasn't happy there, so I quit the job, but with crypto i have all the freedom I want,i don't think I'm ever going back to get a job again.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Gozie51 on November 26, 2020, 11:14:45 AM

but with crypto i have all the freedom I want,i don't think I'm ever going back to get a job again.

Online business is certainly a freedom for all who are into it. The wave of internet business is taking the world business. You see many companies are adopting this mode of business and having service agents to attend to any challenge.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: lixer on November 26, 2020, 01:10:58 PM
For countries with low wages, this is a great opportunity to make money and not work in a regular job, but, for example, the USA has some of the highest rates in the world, so in the USA you can just work and you will earn money for everything you need. Here you need to look at the situation in which you are. In any case, as a side job, working on the Internet is a great way to make money.
Yeah, economy plays a vital role and actually online works and freelancing is good if the country you live has low GDP because you will earn online money which will be better than what you would earn for the same work in real life. For people who live in rich countries like US they would always want local jobs because their GDP is high and their income online will feel less.

I can give example, for a designer who comes from a poor country he might not get much if he works for local people but if he makes the same designs and offers services online then he gets paid much higher because pay scale on internet is not based on you country.


Title: Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke
Post by: Gotumoot on November 26, 2020, 03:07:59 PM

 ;D ;D ;D
YouTube, gamers, free lance, hackers

No need a #job and will never need one.

Employers, businessmen, government, banker, welfare, social leeches can btfo.

It’s the future, without a money system manipulated by a central banker FED, people can finally achieve freedom.
LOL you do know that they consider it as a job right it is just different ona what people thinks when they hear the word "JOB" .
And so does our bounty hunters and even campaign participants here.
As long as you are doing something to earn or be paid then you do have a Job.