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Conclusion

It is impossible to say, with absolute certainty, where Satoshi lived when he was working on Bitcoin – at least not with the available data. However, we can say, with reasonable confidence, that he was located in London. Put together, his writing style, his activity pattern, and the Genesis block message, blatantly points to the capital of England as the most likely candidate.

This kind of story is really important for the history of Satoshi Nakamoto, but there we may still not sure on the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, some may tell he/she is located in country of Japan.
I really admire these people who really doing research and have a time to study the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, kudos to them!

I am not convinced that this can prove he was located in London when he worked on Bitcoin. Based on when he was active on Bitcointalk, SourceForge, and his emails, I would find it extremely difficult to keep up such a tempo. It would mean that he worked on Bitcoin mostly from 14.00 and up to 06:00/07:00 every day of the week. That means he never slept during the night. Sometimes I work in night shifts, it's extremely difficult to work 2-3 night shifts without a proper sleep throughout the night. If he was based in London, he worked throughout the night all the time.

This kind of story is really important for the history of Satoshi Nakamoto, but there we may still not sure on the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, some may tell he/she is located in country of Japan.
I really admire these people who really doing research and have a time to study the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, kudos to them!

Not that it matters too much, but still interesting...

London !?

Excerpts;

"... On first glance, all three locations seem plausible. In London, he is a night owl, working until the early hours of the morning and sleeping until noon. On the east coast, he works all the way up until the end of the day and then sleeps until early morning. On the west coast, he is an early bird, going to bed early in the night, but also waking up very early. Looking at this data alone, we cannot determine, beyond reasonable doubt, which time zone Satoshi lived in. ..."

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"... In summary, Satoshi’s activity on Bitcointalk and SourceForge, and his emails, all set a clear pattern. Using that pattern we can make reasonable guesses as to where the mysterious inventor of Bitcoin resided while working on the project. The patterns laid out by all the charts above clearly confirm the three most probable time zones – Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), Eastern Time (ET), and Pacific Time (PT). ..."

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"... This translates to March 24, 2009 at 11:33:15 UTC-6. This date also falls into the DST period, but is obviously not Pacific time. It is Mountain Time (MT). States which fall into this time zone include New Mexico, Arizona, and Utah. ..."

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More like San Diego ... !?

- https://whoissatoshi.wordpress.com/2016/02/20/satoshi-in-california/

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Check the date format ...

https://web.archive.org/web/20110410024734im_/http://www.bitcoin.org/screen3.png

Bitcoin.org snapshot 3rd March 2009.

Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20090303195936/http://bitcoin.org/

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It is perhaps feasible that Hal Finney contributed to building these early wallet releases, however I feel it was more likely to of been 'satoshi'.

I somewhat err towards the Times quote in the genesis block and certain use of British English spelling by satoshi to be intentional misdirection.

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It is interesting to note that the 1st snapshot for bitcoin.org in the web archive did not seem to capture (or save) the wallet images ...

1st available snapshot ... January 31st 2009 ...

- https://web.archive.org/web/20090131115053/http://bitcoin.org/

2nd available snapshot ... March 3rd 2009 ...

- https://web.archive.org/web/20090303195936/http://bitcoin.org/

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03/01/2009 =

3rd January 2009

or

1st March 2009

Obviously the latter date format is after the actual date within the screen shot, although it is perhaps likely a LAN 'testnet' or mock up.

Another interesting point is that the 1st snapshots unavailable screen shots are respectively labeled;

screen1.png and screen2.png

Whilst the 2nd snapshots available screen shots are labeled;

screen3.png and screen4.png

Do we, for example, assume that these are the same or different screenshots and/or why were they changed or relabeled on the server ?

Also see:

Date format by country
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_format_by_country

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"It is the same and at the same time it is not the same.
It is different and it is not different"
- Zen saying

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"Stop talking, stop thinking, and there is nothing you will not understand.
Return to the Root and you will find the Meaning;
Pursue the Light, and you will lose its source ...
There is no need to seek Truth;
only stop having views."
- Seng-ts'an/Sosan (d. 600)

 :D

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Bitcoin would not be Bitcoin without Hal. Perhaps in many ways Hal was 'satoshi'.

However, Nakamoto is/was seemingly the originator of the code base.

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=382374.0

Satoshi already told us "I am not Dorian Nakamoto".

 :-X

P.S. I can make these posts and folks no longer even bat an eyelid ...

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4359615.msg55605550#msg55605550

P.P.S. If you seek the source you might find him!

Finding satoshi's is half the fun, right ...

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5165538.msg54950273#msg54950273

 :D

...snip...

I despair.

"... as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know ..." - Donald Henry Rumsfeld

You all know we know the following, (right!?) ...

Excerpt;

- https://whoissatoshi.wordpress.com/2016/02/20/satoshi-in-california/

"... Debug Log

In the initial days of Bitcoin, the software used IP address to send and receive bitcoins. For this reason the debug log becomes crucial for the investigation. It reveals IP’s of 3 users who were connected to the IRC. This happened on 2009-01-10. Satoshi and Hal were the only two people working on the project during that time. ..." [citation's needed]

I have researched these IP addresses extensively against old Tor exit node lists, old proxy lists and old GeoIP (maxmind) database lists.

Whois Satoshi? Known Satoshi IP addresses? ...
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5155191.msg51497775#msg51497775
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5155191.msg55065045#msg55065045

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How can I put this ... the true satoshi candidate had an internet presence before the creation of Bitcoin. He (seemingly) later increased obfuscation and went pseudonymous, before disappearing after Bitcoins inception was considered successful (even unsuccessful!? See: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Value_overflow_incident (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Value_overflow_incident)) and/or because he got spooked. The most likely satoshi candidate is in fact hidden in plain sight, if you know where to look. He quite literally moved onto other things.

Who told you Satoshi Nakamoto did not want to be found ? Media mythopoeia and 'community' hearsay ?

It's now a complete farce! A total media circus! Why would the real satoshi even want to return?

London ...   :D

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Take Me Back To London (feat. Stormzy) [Official Lyric Video]
- https://youtu.be/ehQcuKhO5n0

The only Country that legalizes bitcoin as a legal tender as a payment method since 2016.
The first biggest exchange was located in Japan and probably the Japanese name of Satoshi Nakamoto somewhat contributed to this decision.
Despite all the uncertainty and vagueness of the truth about his identity, we are grateful and always wish him the best.

When I saw the title first thought was - oh, again...who is Nakamoto 😁 but having read the article and those research I was surprised really. Sometimes people make me impressed with their perseverance and willpower in order to make titanic work and find out who is real Satoshi. And even taking into consideration that it is more likely that we'll never find out the truth, they do not give up. Respect! And it would be interesting to learn more such researches. May be some day the mystery will be solved.

This topic is duplicate. Thus, so is my response ...

.snip.

You gave your first answer in the duplicate topic. Never mind... I don't care. Have a nice day.

This kind of story is really important for the history of Satoshi Nakamoto, but there we may still not sure on the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, some may tell he/she is located in country of Japan.

Stefan Thomas, a Swiss coder and active community member, graphed the time stamps for each of Nakamoto’s 500-plus bitcoin forum posts; the resulting chart showed a steep decline to almost no posts between the hours of 5 am and 11 am Greenwich Mean Time. Because this pattern held true even on Saturdays and Sundays, it suggested that the lull was occurring when Nakamoto was asleep, rather than at work.

The only Country that legalizes bitcoin as a legal tender as a payment method since 2016.
The first biggest exchange was located in Japan and probably the Japanese name of Satoshi Nakamoto somewhat contributed to this decision.
Despite all the uncertainty and vagueness of the truth about his identity, we are grateful and always wish him the best.

For me it doesn't really matter where he is right now and we should really leave the man alone. He is living maybe the millionaires life right now after selling some of his bitcoins and maybe he is still anonymously active in the development of Bitcoin and maybe some other coins using another alias. We will never know. All we do is simply wonder at the marvel he created and the genius behind it. We might never know his identity in our lifetime. One of the most secretive persons on the planet.

This kind of story is really important for the history of Satoshi Nakamoto, but there we may still not sure on the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, some may tell he/she is located in country of Japan.
I really admire these people who really doing research and have a time to study the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, kudos to them!

This kind of story is really important for the history of Satoshi Nakamoto, but there we may still not sure on the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, some may tell he/she is located in country of Japan.
I really admire these people who really doing research and have a time to study the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, kudos to them!

I'm really not sure whether the information about Satoshi Nakamoto is as accurate as you mentioned. But he is still an unknown number that people still have to remind and remember about him.In Football people will remember Maradona and in the crypto market people will remember him no matter what he is doing now and where he lives. ;D

Is Satoshi Nakamoto Mike Hearn?
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There are many coincidences involving a Mike Hearn and Satoshi Nakamoto connection.   Though many of you will automatically reject the notion because you dislike Mike Hearn, I would suggest you at least entertain the idea’s possibility. I have seen Mike Hearn on the long list of “Satoshi candidates” posted on bitcointalk but I have never seen anyone explore the idea.

Besides Mike being British and Satoshi using British English my first inclination to even consider Mike Hearn as being Satoshi Nakamoto was that Mike’s bitcointalk.org profile was created 1 day after Satoshi last logged in to the forum.

Satoshi’s profile:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3
Mike’s profile:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2700

Mike’s bitcointalk presence began 1 day 53 minutes and 13 seconds after Satoshi’s bitcointalk presence ended. Almost exactly 1 day separating their profiles seemed odd to me especially considering the impact Mike had in development later on.
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Why would Satoshi Nakamoto hide his real identity?

The people who created the precursors to Bitcoin were not anonymous. Satoshi even referenced multiple influences by name in his whitepaper like Wei Dai, Ralph Merkle, and Adam Back. So why did the person behind Satoshi feel the need to remain anonymous? There doesn’t seem to be any precedent in the small niche of people who attempted to make digital/electronic cash. A lot of people are constantly regurgitating the idea that Satoshi knew how big Bitcoin would become and that Governments or nefarious people would want to hunt him down for his bitcoin holdings or for simply inventing bitcoin.
In reality, Satoshi didn’t even know if his invention would gain traction. Satoshi didn’t know he would be one of a handful of users running bitcoin in the first year which would allow him to mine as many blocks as he did. Satoshi didn’t know how much bitcoin would actually be worth.

So I think the better question is why would Mike Hearn hide is identity?

Mike Hearn in mid August 2006 was hired on by Google as a Site Reliability Engineer (http://web.archive.org/web/20090514053312/http://mikehearn.wordpress.com:80/2006/08/)

Why would an employee of Google secretly develop something? Well, Google themselves sum it up pretty nicely here: “As part of your employment agreement, Google most likely owns intellectual property (IP) you create while at the company. Because Google’s business interests are so wide and varied, this likely applies to any personal project you have. That includes new development on personal projects you created prior to employment at Google.“ (https://opensource.google.com/docs/iarc/ )

Here Mike was indeed fully aware of Google’s policy when he released bitcoinj as a Google copyrighted project under the Apache 2 license: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4236.msg61438#msg61438
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4236.msg61658#msg61658

Then here he is emailing Satoshi (himself ;)) a few hours after the bitcointalk announcement:
https://pastebin.com/JF3USKFT

I have no idea how long it takes Google to vet an employee project and license it, but combine that with building bitcoinj and doing that all under 3 months seems fast. What do I know, maybe bitcoinj was a pretty simple project.

I wonder what Google would have done with Bitcoin had Satoshi been an employee of Google?

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Mike claiming he supposedly “coined the term SPV”.  Or, did he?
Here is Peter Todd https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/649413412158599168 and here is the reddit thread to go along with it: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3n1ydp/peter_todd_on_twitter_mike_hearn_claiming_he/

The term “SPV” does not appear in the whitepaper but its meaning does. Simplified Payment Verification is section 8 of the whitepaper.  Did Mike slip and just inadvertently hint to him being the real Satoshi? Upon further investigation Mike had claimed months earlier that he coined the term “SPV wallet”.  https://medium.com/@octskyward/the-capacity-cliff-586d1bf7715e So he could have meant to say SPV wallet when Peter Todd was calling him out or maybe he did mean to say just “SPV”. Still not the smoking gun but interesting that he would throw that around knowing full well that Simplified Payment Verification was in the Whitepaper.

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[After writing this up, Mike just released all his private Satoshi Emails through a user named CipherionX. Mike did show up in a reddit thread to confirm that they came from him and are indeed not fake. Bitcointalk link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2080206.0
Reddit link to Mike’s post: https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/6t2ci2/never_before_seen_mike_hearn_satoshi_nakamoto/dliizv6/ ]
It is very plausible that in order to remain separate from something, that someone would in fact have email conversations between himself and an alias as “proof” that they are completely different independent people. Of course this would only make sense if the emails were made public at some point. Well guess what?  Mike just made them public and Mike also attempted to divulge them to Charles Hoskinson in 2013 who did not release them to the public.

If the dates can be trusted, Mike’s email leak serves as proof that he was there early on even if he was corresponding with himself ;) Besides the new email dump the only known public involvement that I could find was here on the sourceforge forum in October 2009: https://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/bitcoin-list/thread/f4cd80640910240804m64ba45f1g216905fc9db16a2%40mail.gmail.com/#msg23827020 . 

Why did Mike not use Sourceforge as he posted openly so frequently in other project lists or forums? Are there posts that I haven’t seen from early on?


Mike did produce an email he sent to Satoshi In April of 2009 here in this thread: https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/54-my-first-message-to-satoshi/ which does correspond with the new email dump.  An interesting thing I noticed in the above link is that Mike stated, But Mike continued to capitalize Bitcoin as BitCoin not just in that email but until May 14, 2011. Why is that interesting? Well, every thread and post he responded to that mentioned the word bitcoin didn’t capitalize the “C” ever. It would seem like he was almost doing it on purpose to show what a noob he was to the project. Oh then he of course points out the fact that he was a newbie for capitalizing bitcoin that way. It is odd that he continued to use that spelling without regard to how everyone else was spelling it and then later direct people’s attention to the fact that he use to spell it that way early on.
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Also, what is odd about Mike’s involvement early on is that it doesn’t really parallel with his natural online demeanor. He is very vocal and has an involved online presence yet he just really isn’t vocal during the early stages of Bitcoin. Even his personal blog posts came to a halt in early 2009. https://web.archive.org/web/20111130084418/http://mikehearn.wordpress.com:80/ For someone who is  generally very active online before Bitcoin and then after Satoshi’s disappearence, I find it peculiar that there is a dead silence period from Mike Hearn while Satoshi existed online.
Mike went Facebook silent from July 23, 2007 to March 8, 2011 which also coincides with Satoshi’s existence and pre-release development of Bitcoin. https://www.facebook.com/i.am.the.real.mike?lst=662933243%3A61203304%3A1502324015

The next step in my exploration of this idea was to create a calendar of time periods where Satoshi was silent on the forums. For example, Satoshi was silent on the forum from March 24, 2010 until May 16, 2010. I am guessing this is a period when Satoshi was away from his home travelling or vacationing. I was wanting to then correspond them with known dates when Mike was on vacations or at a conference, but as I stated above MIke wasn’t very public during Satoshi’s presence. If anyone knows of any of the potential Satoshis that were vacationing, hospitalized (Hal?), or travelling during that March to May gap in 2010, it would be a good link to the real Satoshi.

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Hal Finney was also involved at the start only to leave and eventually return. He came back a month before Satoshi departed though.  Hal was the recipient of bitcoins first transaction and helped Satoshi troubleshoot early problems [Suspicious link removed]j.com/public/resources/documents/finneynakamotoemails.pdf

Their correspondence lead me to believe that Satoshi may have had either a rapport or at the least some familiarity with Hal. I decided to search Mike Hearn and Hal Finney together which turned up a nice find. Here, https://sourceforge.net/p/tboot/mailman/tboot-devel/?style=threaded&viewmonth=200807 Mike and Hal are talking about Trusted Computing back in July 2008, just months before the bitcoin whitepaper surfaced. Unfortunately I don’t quite fully understand Trusted Computing and the reason Mike Hearn was inquiring about a trusted web browser or how it would relate to Bitcoin, However, I did also find this thread from Mike Hearn that Hal Finney later resurrected about TC: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67508.0 And even more interesting, Hal Finney later wrote in his brief memoir of bitcoin, “Bitcoin and Me”, posted on the bitcointalk forum (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155054.0)  that he was currently “working on something Mike Hearn suggested, using the security features of modern processors, designed to support "Trusted Computing", to harden Bitcoin wallets.” Was Mike Hearn originally researching a use for trusted computing in Bitcoin but never implemented it only to later pass it on to Hal FInney as a “suggestion”?  Mike on Google+ posted a link to Hal’s TC project when he learned Hal passed away and linked to Hal’s post on BTCtalk (https://plus.google.com/+MikeHearn ; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154290.0 )

So,

here is Satoshi stating he started working on bitcoin in 2007 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=195.msg1617#msg1617,
here Satoshi said he was done writing Bitcoin by July 2008 because that is when Google protocol buffers was made public”I looked at Google protocol buffers when they were released last year, but I had already written everything by then.” https://pastebin.com/Na5FwkQ4
and then above Mike Hearn in July 2008 is seeking guidance from Hal about trusted computing and then Hal working on trusted computing application on the suggestion of Mike for bitcoin. Ok why? Well bitcoin was done by July 2007 when Mike was inquiring about TC and Hal was working on a TC application later, meaning that TC has some application not related to the core of bitcoin but rather to a peripheral of bitcoin.
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[Weak] Searching for more clues about Satoshi I came across a colloquial/slang term that he used. “Hack on” was used by Satoshi in the context of “work on”. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1034.msg13206#msg13206
I found multiple instances where Mike Hearn used the same exact term in the same context: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-April/007779.html
http://bitcoin-development.narkive.com/hczWIAby/bitcoin-development-cartographer
https://web.archive.org/web/20170628004052/http://www.advogato.org/person/mikehearn/
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2003-March/msg00031.html
I do admit the “hack on” argument is lame evidence as it is somewhat common term. However, not everyone used it in that context (like Hal Finney didn’t) and it does add to the list of coincidences.
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[Warning: Reaching] Another super weak semi-coincidence is Mike Hearns birthday. Mike’s birthday is April 17th, 1984. Satoshi’s birthday was chosen as April 5th, 1975. I don’t know about you, but a lot of times when I have to enter a birthday in a service where I don’t want them knowing the truth, I usually always use my real birth month with fake day and year. [More reaching] adding 1975’s digits equal adding 1984’s digits/ 7+5=12 and 8+4=12.

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According to Mike Hearn, Satoshi “communicated with a few of the core developers before leaving. He told myself and Gavin that he had moved on to other things and that the project was in good hands.“ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145850.msg1558053#msg1558053 This is also backed up by the new email release here:
https://pastebin.com/syrmi3ET   
Mike- “I had a few other things on my mind (as always). One is, are you planning on rejoining the community at some point (eg for code reviews), or is your plan to permanently step back from the limelight?”
Satoshi- “I've moved on to other things.  It's in good hands with Gavin and everyone.”
The above communication is supposedly the first time anyone heard that Satoshi was leaving for good and it was none other than Mike Hearn as the recipient. Then a few days later Satoshi told Gavin the same thing.

None of these things points or alludes to Mike being Satoshi by themselves. But I do think that all these things together do paint a possible connection. Mike denied being Satoshi when I emailed him and also didn’t seem to care that I would post these things online attempting to connect him to Satoshi.

Up-til now there has be no concrete information about this Satoshi Nakamoto the creator of the most famous digital currency. But that doesn't matter to him/her becasue the last message he/she gave clearly shown that nothing should be more important than his sacrifice to humanity, both his or her identity shouldn't be, so, why still digging into his/her were about, when him/her wanted them secret?. As far as am concern, non of this aforementioned information are true. 

Another 'in depth' research' about Satoshis whereabouts. Not that it matters too much, but still interesting...

https://chainbulletin.com/satoshi-nakamoto-lived-in-london-while-working-on-bitcoin-heres-how-we-know/