Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin

[AGD]

Another 'in depth' research' about Satoshis whereabouts. Not that it matters too much, but still interesting...

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Conclusion

It is impossible to say, with absolute certainty, where Satoshi lived when he was working on Bitcoin – at least not with the available data. However, we can say, with reasonable confidence, that he was located in London. Put together, his writing style, his activity pattern, and the Genesis block message, blatantly points to the capital of England as the most likely candidate.

https://chainbulletin.com/satoshi-nakamoto-lived-in-london-while-working-on-bitcoin-heres-how-we-know/

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[GreatArkansas]

This kind of story is really important for the history of Satoshi Nakamoto, but there we may still not sure on the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, some may tell he/she is located in country of Japan.
I really admire these people who really doing research and have a time to study the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, kudos to them!

[Oshosondy]

A person that do not want anyone to know him, why are people just bothered on what will not happen. Maybe Satoshi Nakamoto are just the first bitcoin developers that look for names that will suit the bitcoin creator. If Satoshi want to disclose his identity, he will. People should not just bother about him because he wants everything about bitcoin to be open source and decentralized unlike other cryptocurrencies.

[acener]

This kind of story is really important for the history of Satoshi Nakamoto, but there we may still not sure on the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, some may tell he/she is located in country of Japan.
I really admire these people who really doing research and have a time to study the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, kudos to them!

Yes it is important but we should also respect Satoshi's decision on being anonymous.
Isn't it funny if we could really find out who is behind that name when BTC was created to give it's user anonymity?
I think this is why Satoshi created it that way and decided to vanish.

[thichtieuthuong]

I'm really not sure whether the information about Satoshi Nakamoto is as accurate as you mentioned. But he is still an unknown number that people still have to remind and remember about him.In Football people will remember Maradona and in the crypto market people will remember him no matter what he is doing now and where he lives.

[milani]

When I saw the title first thought was - oh, again...who is Nakamoto 😁 but having read the article and those research I was surprised really. Sometimes people make me impressed with their perseverance and willpower in order to make titanic work and find out who is real Satoshi. And even taking into consideration that it is more likely that we'll never find out the truth, they do not give up. Respect! And it would be interesting to learn more such researches. May be some day the mystery will be solved.

[Pmalek]

I am not convinced that this can prove he was located in London when he worked on Bitcoin. Based on when he was active on Bitcointalk, SourceForge, and his emails, I would find it extremely difficult to keep up such a tempo. It would mean that he worked on Bitcoin mostly from 14.00 and up to 06:00/07:00 every day of the week. That means he never slept during the night. Sometimes I work in night shifts, it's extremely difficult to work 2-3 night shifts without a proper sleep throughout the night. If he was based in London, he worked throughout the night all the time.

The US/Pacific and US/Eastern time zones seem more logical. He worked from 08:00 or 09:00 in the morning, according to Eastern time. He went to bed between 01:00-02:00. The US/Pacific time zone makes even more sense. He was active between 06:00/07:00 and until 23:00/00:00 after which he slept throughout the night. I agree that Tokyo and Sydney are very unlikely, unless he was a complete maniac.

Regarding The Times article, it could be used as an argument that Satoshi was in London and saw the front page there. But Satoshi is a smart lad. Couldn't he have asked one of his closest friends/allies to email him a picture of today's The Times front page, or write down the title of one of the articles? Just because we know about his Bitcointalk, SourceForge, and emails, doesn't mean that he doesn't have other sources for communication that remained hidden even now. A lot of private communication could have gone through those sources, including The Times headline.

 

[davis196]

I am not convinced that this can prove he was located in London when he worked on Bitcoin. Based on when he was active on Bitcointalk, SourceForge, and his emails, I would find it extremely difficult to keep up such a tempo. It would mean that he worked on Bitcoin mostly from 14.00 and up to 06:00/07:00 every day of the week. That means he never slept during the night. Sometimes I work in night shifts, it's extremely difficult to work 2-3 night shifts without a proper sleep throughout the night. If he was based in London, he worked throughout the night all the time.

This is pretty interesting info,which might serve as a some sort of proof,that Satoshi might have been a leader of a secret team of people,who worked on the creation of Bitcoin,rather than being the one and only creator of BTC.This is a conspiracy theory,which still lacks solid evidence,but can't be left behind.
However,being active on Bitcointalk and SourceForge doesn't mean that he was working all the time and sending emails isn't such a tedious task or maybe he had insomnia.
The location of Satoshi doesn't matter anyway.I hope that he is safe and sound.

[Spack17]

Firstly, we don't even know the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. He/she doesn't want his/her identity to be exposed. So, I don't know whether it is true to make research about this. In my opinion, we should respect the creator of Bitcoin for his/her choice. But I'm sure that people won't stop until finding this out. 

[BitcoinOfficialGroup]

Are you sure?

[CyberKuro]

This kind of story is really important for the history of Satoshi Nakamoto, but there we may still not sure on the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, some may tell he/she is located in country of Japan.
I really admire these people who really doing research and have a time to study the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, kudos to them!

The only Country that legalizes bitcoin as a legal tender as a payment method since 2016.
The first biggest exchange was located in Japan and probably the Japanese name of Satoshi Nakamoto somewhat contributed to this decision.
Despite all the uncertainty and vagueness of the truth about his identity, we are grateful and always wish him the best.

[sheenshane]

Not that it matters too much, but still interesting...

Yeah, Satoshi Nakamoto's whereabout doesn't really matter to me, I know he is the creator of Bitcoin and I should thank him for his invention but folks aren't it sometimes we are getting unfair for Satoshi that he already did himself from everyone.  Yet we're still doing research which would lead us to him and may reveal his identity, and will he be thankful if one day we were able to find who he really is because IMO he will never hide in the first place if later he will just come out in public, he rather plays hide and seek instead, just kidding aside.

However, I still appreciate OP for his will to follow and do this kind of research for someone like Satoshi because honestly for me I may not have time or rather not do it at all because of my priorities. Cheers mate!

[BitcoinFX]

This topic is duplicate. Thus, so is my response ...

London !?

Excerpts;

"... On first glance, all three locations seem plausible. In London, he is a night owl, working until the early hours of the morning and sleeping until noon. On the east coast, he works all the way up until the end of the day and then sleeps until early morning. On the west coast, he is an early bird, going to bed early in the night, but also waking up very early. Looking at this data alone, we cannot determine, beyond reasonable doubt, which time zone Satoshi lived in. ..."

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"... In summary, Satoshi’s activity on Bitcointalk and SourceForge, and his emails, all set a clear pattern. Using that pattern we can make reasonable guesses as to where the mysterious inventor of Bitcoin resided while working on the project. The patterns laid out by all the charts above clearly confirm the three most probable time zones – Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), Eastern Time (ET), and Pacific Time (PT). ..."

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"... This translates to March 24, 2009 at 11:33:15 UTC-6. This date also falls into the DST period, but is obviously not Pacific time. It is Mountain Time (MT). States which fall into this time zone include New Mexico, Arizona, and Utah. ..."

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More like San Diego ... !?

- https://whoissatoshi.wordpress.com/2016/02/20/satoshi-in-california/

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Check the date format ...



Bitcoin.org snapshot 3rd March 2009.

Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20090303195936/http://bitcoin.org/

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Is it possible Hal Finney coded that client?

In your 2nd bitcoin.org link, Satoshi writes the word "synchronising" in the entry from "01 Nov 2008". Americans never spell synchronizing as "synchronising" unless they are being cheeky (my browser spellcheck even underlines the British version as a spelling error). And then he uses the european date format.

It is perhaps feasible that Hal Finney contributed to building these early wallet releases, however I feel it was more likely to of been 'satoshi'.

I somewhat err towards the Times quote in the genesis block and certain use of British English spelling by satoshi to be intentional misdirection.

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It is interesting to note that the 1st snapshot for bitcoin.org in the web archive did not seem to capture (or save) the wallet images ...

1st available snapshot ... January 31st 2009 ...

- https://web.archive.org/web/20090131115053/http://bitcoin.org/

2nd available snapshot ... March 3rd 2009 ...

- https://web.archive.org/web/20090303195936/http://bitcoin.org/

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03/01/2009 =

3rd January 2009

or

1st March 2009

Obviously the latter date format is after the actual date within the screen shot, although it is perhaps likely a LAN 'testnet' or mock up.

Another interesting point is that the 1st snapshots unavailable screen shots are respectively labeled;

screen1.png and screen2.png

Whilst the 2nd snapshots available screen shots are labeled;

screen3.png and screen4.png

Do we, for example, assume that these are the same or different screenshots and/or why were they changed or relabeled on the server ?

Also see:

Date format by country
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_format_by_country

 

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"It is the same and at the same time it is not the same.
It is different and it is not different"
- Zen saying

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"Stop talking, stop thinking, and there is nothing you will not understand.
Return to the Root and you will find the Meaning;
Pursue the Light, and you will lose its source ...
There is no need to seek Truth;
only stop having views."
- Seng-ts'an/Sosan (d. 600)

 

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Bitcoin would not be Bitcoin without Hal. Perhaps in many ways Hal was 'satoshi'.

However, Nakamoto is/was seemingly the originator of the code base.

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=382374.0

Satoshi already told us "I am not Dorian Nakamoto".

 

P.S. I can make these posts and folks no longer even bat an eyelid ...

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4359615.msg55605550#msg55605550

P.P.S. If you seek the source you might find him!

Finding satoshi's is half the fun, right ...

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5165538.msg54950273#msg54950273

 

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I despair.

"... as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know ..." - Donald Henry Rumsfeld

You all know we know the following, (right!?) ...

Excerpt;

- https://whoissatoshi.wordpress.com/2016/02/20/satoshi-in-california/

"... Debug Log

In the initial days of Bitcoin, the software used IP address to send and receive bitcoins. For this reason the debug log becomes crucial for the investigation. It reveals IP’s of 3 users who were connected to the IRC. This happened on 2009-01-10. Satoshi and Hal were the only two people working on the project during that time. ..." [citation's needed]

I have researched these IP addresses extensively against old Tor exit node lists, old proxy lists and old GeoIP (maxmind) database lists.

Whois Satoshi? Known Satoshi IP addresses? ...
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5155191.msg51497775#msg51497775
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5155191.msg55065045#msg55065045

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How can I put this ... the true satoshi candidate had an internet presence before the creation of Bitcoin. He (seemingly) later increased obfuscation and went pseudonymous, before disappearing after Bitcoins inception was considered successful (even unsuccessful!? See: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Value_overflow_incident) and/or because he got spooked. The most likely satoshi candidate is in fact hidden in plain sight, if you know where to look. He quite literally moved onto other things.

Who told you Satoshi Nakamoto did not want to be found ? Media mythopoeia and 'community' hearsay ?

It's now a complete farce! A total media circus! Why would the real satoshi even want to return?

London ...  

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Take Me Back To London (feat. Stormzy) [Official Lyric Video]
- https://youtu.be/ehQcuKhO5n0

[Twinkledoe]

This kind of story is really important for the history of Satoshi Nakamoto, but there we may still not sure on the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, some may tell he/she is located in country of Japan.
I really admire these people who really doing research and have a time to study the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, kudos to them!

The only Country that legalizes bitcoin as a legal tender as a payment method since 2016.
The first biggest exchange was located in Japan and probably the Japanese name of Satoshi Nakamoto somewhat contributed to this decision.
Despite all the uncertainty and vagueness of the truth about his identity, we are grateful and always wish him the best.

Absolutely, we are grateful that he created bitcoin. A lot of people are benefitting from this technology for over a decade now. It is amusing to read some info about his potential identity. However, I am not really into finding the truth about him as it is really hard to pinpoint the real facts here. If he is happy being anonymous with his own invention, then let him be. Maybe decades from now, we will uncover the true Satoshi.

[concept2]

Well, I hope that you guys do enjoy this kind of information cause Satoshi is an important person in the crypto world

To me, I do not care much about Satoshi. He has chosen to become anonymous and I respect his decision. It is pointless to figure his true identity. Even when we find who this man is, there eill be no significant change in the price of bitcoin cause he has given up influence bitcoin. But no matter what, he will always be remembered by us

[milewilda]

When I saw the title first thought was - oh, again...who is Nakamoto 😁 but having read the article and those research I was surprised really. Sometimes people make me impressed with their perseverance and willpower in order to make titanic work and find out who is real Satoshi. And even taking into consideration that it is more likely that we'll never find out the truth, they do not give up. Respect! And it would be interesting to learn more such researches. May be some day the mystery will be solved.

Actually i do have the same expression when i do saw some Satoshi threads once again where it do talk about some discoveries or hints or like that but i cant really avoid
to have those impressions that this isnt something really that near on revealing on satoshi's identity but i do really read up these kind of threads and i might
find it something interesting and might one day we will able to uncover up the mysteries but i do have the feeling that it wont really be that easy
on unveiling its true identity and will really remain always an unknown thing.

[AGD]

This topic is duplicate. Thus, so is my response ...

.snip.

You gave your first answer in the duplicate topic. Never mind... I don't care. Have a nice day.

[Haunebu]

He is a human being who could have lived in London. What is so earth shattering about this people? He isn't an alien or something who came to our planet through a UFO. He is just another human being.

These theories don't surprise me anymore since these Satoshi theories are a regular trend in our community even though majority of them are fake and I find them entertaining.

The real Satoshi(if he is still alive) is probably having fun too reading these theories.

[Altcoinsintel]

Couldn't it be possible that Satoshi was not British but intentionally used British vocabulary and the British newspaper just to make researchers focus on British nationals or someone living in England during that time?
I've seen that fraud CW using the word "bloody" while trying to give the fake impression he was Satoshi. Satoshi could just have lived in London for only a year and picked the local accent.
The timing is important but still I remember myself working at night and sleeping during the day for years. So again, it could have been anywhere just have to adjust the hours to sleeping during the day.
The spelling of words with "ise" instead of "ize" could have been auto-corrected by a vocabulary checker adjusted for British English.

I am also fascinated by Satoshi but I think we shouldn't be looking into someone that remained anonymous and didn't want his identity to be found.

[BitcoinFX]

This topic is duplicate. Thus, so is my response ...

.snip.

You gave your first answer in the duplicate topic. Never mind... I don't care. Have a nice day.

Indeed. 

*Shrugs*