Title: [Question] Why was Retina u=2508950 auto-banned & who are they an alt of? Post by: Timelord2067 on November 27, 2020, 08:30:12 AM mdayonliner (https://loyce.club/profile.html?id=1432468) starts a thread: Re-join and hello to all! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5293217.0) - Archive [1a (https://archive.vn/cjeEK)], [1b (https://web.archive.org/web/20201127080602/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5293217.0)]
mdayonliner links to their alt ( mday_alt (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2406023) ) thread: In the process of willingly locking mdayonliner [locked: Password inside] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5135318.0;all) - Archive [2a (https://archive.vn/9Vby0)], [2b (https://web.archive.org/web/20201127080647/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5135318.0&all=)] mday_alt posts a signed message (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5134929.0) ( Archive [3a (https://archive.vn/d5PBM)], [3b (https://web.archive.org/web/20201127080716/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5134929.0)] )via wallet address 1GyLCQSgcSMN3oCDP6qitZ8b3sABP6wjaF during ban evasion ( Yobit ) and also posts in Bangladeshi. Partial conclusion: mdayonliner (https://loyce.club/profile.html?id=1432468) and mday_alt (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2406023) are confirmed alts. Yesterday, S_Therapist (https://loyce.club/profile.html?id=2423416) posted in Bangladeshi (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631891.msg55679771#msg55679771) - (Archive [4a (https://archive.vn/McVUj#selection-2645.0-2645.219)], [4b (https://web.archive.org/web/20201127081114/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631891.msg55679771)] ) and prior to their period of inactivity such as this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631891.msg51568807#msg51568807) on the 2019-06-23, 16:33:41. - Archive [5a (https://archive.vn/RqeXM#selection-2187.0-2187.182)], [5b (https://web.archive.org/web/20201127081135/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631891.msg51568807)] S_Therapist admits that utlptc (https://loyce.club/profile.html?id=1460928) is their alt which they used to purchase bitcointalk accounts: Archive [6a (https://archive.vn/kj2cQ#selection-27353.0-27355.18)], [6b (https://web.archive.org/web/20201127081540/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096681.0&all=)] I bought that account. It's enough. I don't see any point of further discussion. Account buyer can't be trusted.I bought that account. Buying hacked account and then gets hacked. I suppose you need forum account to buy account which means that you have at least one more account somewhere. Partial conclusion: S_Therapist and utlptc are alts of each-other. DT trust: Week 10 (https://loyce.club/trust/2019-03-23_Sat_05.36h/1432468.html) mdayonliner removes their trust/distrust list: (Interestingly, that same week: 2019-03-20, 17:47:58 Last post by utlptc) https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/16/blob6fd8b2076adca103.jpeg Week 39 (https://loyce.club/trust/2019-10-12_Sat_06.11h/2423416.html) S_Therapist likewise removes their trust/distrust list: (including S_Therapist's trust of mdayonliner) - this is just three weeks after Retina has been banned. https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/16/bloba13eb2f049d4b563.jpeg merit swapping: mdayonliner gives both S_Therapist and Retina merits (and receives one merit from S_Therapist https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/16/blob2e5f9713e9c55027.jpeg Code: Registration Date:12/18/2017 9:23:25 AM (Active 444 days ago) utlptc Something no-one seems to have noticed before today: Code: 2017-12-14, 19:18:19 Date Registered: mdayonliner mdayonliner and utlptc register just four days apart. There are something like a dozen threads suspecting mdayonliner and S_Therapist are alts, - I haven't scoured over every line of those threads, but it's gotten me to wondering: Questions:
@LoyceV @theymos @suchmoon @ibminer @The Pharmacist @marlboroza Title: Re: [Question] Why was Retina u=2508950 auto-banned & who are they an alt of? Post by: mdayonliner on November 27, 2020, 01:49:52 PM You seems genuinely interested to know the answers instead of shooting an speculation very quickly so I would answer some of your questions. I always was truthful and still is (yes, I have a big ego and kind of sick not to ignore things which was one of my issue back then I think but in this long break I changed myself a little).
Is it just coincidental that mdayonliner and utlptc registered within four days of each-other with utlptc being a self-admitted alt of S_Therapist who has long been suspected of being an alt of mdayonliner? The registration within four days is just a coincidental event. I never reviewed utiptc account to see such things.Quote The same week utlptc last posts, mdayonliner removes their DT trust/distrust list - coincidental? I can not remember when and why I removed my trust list but it has nothing to do with whatever utlptc did in the forum.Quote How is Retina u=2508950 connected as an alt of any of the four UID's mentioned so far? I've seen the user name ( Retina ) mentioned by others as being an alt, yet I can't see the first mention linking one to the other. You better ask this to hilariousandco.Quote If people can accept a connection between mdayonliner <-> utlptc <-> S_Therapist *just* on the registration dates being four days apart *AND* Retina is connected to one of the four, then does it not stand to reason that all four ( mdayonliner, mday_alt, S_Therapist and utlptc ) are guilty of ban-evasion? mdayonliner = mday_alt. S_Therapist, utlptc and Retina are not alt of mdayonlinerQuote mdayonliner also merits both of these two. Since mdayoniner ≠ both of these two (S_Therapist and utlptc), I never seen any problem to merit them. Notice that I never exchanged merit in between my alt (mday_alt) and main account (mdayonliner)."I always respected forum rules even private ones" - I always assured it and practiced it from my heart. When the recovery team was in the process of recovering my account they checked my current IP (since they asked for it this means they have checked all the IP history they had in the system connected with mdayonliner), they even asked for my located city, country kind of things too. Title: Re: [Question] Why was Retina u=2508950 auto-banned & who are they an alt of? Post by: DireWolfM14 on November 27, 2020, 02:23:11 PM I don't know why Retina was banned, or if I did at one point I have forgotten.
There were a lot of anomalies that seemed to suggest S. Therapist was indeed an alt of Mday. Hilariousandco picked it out first, and he has a bit of insight (behind the scenes) that the rest of us don't. By the time the Retina account was created, the forum had already run Mday and S. Therapist through the wringer, so I would imagine that if Mday did create another alt he would have taken precautions to ensure that account's anonymity. From my personal perspective I can't say that I've seen conclusive evidence that Mday and S. Therapist are alts, but I've seen enough BS and squirming from both accounts to say that's a strong suspicion of mine (and I'm not alone.) I will also say that I haven't seen enough to be convinced Retina is indeed an alt. But, I am inclined to trust Hilarious, and I don't believe a single word Mday writes. When the recovery team was in the process of recovering my account they checked my current IP (since they asked for it this means they have checked all the IP history they had in the system connected with mdayonliner), they even asked for my located city, country kind of things too. That's a strawman argument and it's completely meaningless. Alts aren't against the forum rules, so as long as the banned Retina account wasn't connected to the same IP, the recovery team won't do anything about any other alts. Who's to say that recovery team did check to see if you've accessed the forum from the same IP as Retina? Did they? Title: Re: [Question] Why was Retina u=2508950 auto-banned & who are they an alt of? Post by: Timelord2067 on November 27, 2020, 04:40:24 PM Thanks to both for your answers; I didn't expect much different from mdayonliner, but it's on the record. (and yes I'm interested in hearing what the "logic" behind that "conclusion" in Retina was)
@DireWolfM14 - yes it seems others know the answer so hopefully they'll pick up the story where you've left off. |