[Question] Why was Retina u=2508950 auto-banned & who are they an alt of?

[Timelord2067]

mdayonliner starts a thread: Re-join and hello to all! - Archive [1a], [1b]

mdayonliner links to their alt ( mday_alt ) thread: In the process of willingly locking mdayonliner [locked: Password inside] - Archive [2a], [2b]

mday_alt posts a signed message ( Archive [3a], [3b] )via wallet address 1GyLCQSgcSMN3oCDP6qitZ8b3sABP6wjaF during ban evasion ( Yobit ) and also posts in Bangladeshi.

Partial conclusion:

mdayonliner and mday_alt are confirmed alts.


Yesterday, S_Therapist posted in Bangladeshi - (Archive [4a], [4b] ) and prior to their period of inactivity such as this post on the 2019-06-23, 16:33:41. - Archive [5a], [5b]

S_Therapist admits that utlptc is their alt which they used to purchase bitcointalk accounts:

Archive [6a], [6b]

I bought that account.

It's enough. I don't see any point of further discussion. Account buyer can't be trusted.

Come on, we are talking about whether alt of mdaypnliner or not.

I bought that account.

Buying hacked account and then gets hacked.

I suppose you need forum account to buy account which means that you have at least one more account somewhere.

Yes, it's - utlptc

Partial conclusion:

S_Therapist and utlptc are alts of each-other.


DT trust:

Week 10 mdayonliner removes their trust/distrust list:

(Interestingly, that same week: 2019-03-20, 17:47:58 Last post by    utlptc)



Week 39 S_Therapist likewise removes their trust/distrust list: (including S_Therapist's trust of mdayonliner) - this is just three weeks after Retina has been banned.



merit swapping:

mdayonliner gives both S_Therapist and Retina merits (and receives one merit from S_Therapist

Code:

Registration Date:12/18/2017 9:23:25 AM (Active 444 days ago) utlptc
Registration Date:9/25/2018 7:58:07 AM (Active 372 days ago) mday_alt
Registration Date:12/20/2018 9:50:33 PM (Active 338 days ago) Retina

2017-12-14, 19:18:19 Date Registered: mdayonliner
2017-12-18, 19:23:25 Date Registered: utlptc

7/30/2018 1:08:21 PM password changed mdayonliner

9/8/2018 8:46:31 AM password reset via email utlptc

2018-09-25, 17:58:07 Date Registered: mday_alt
9/25/2018 7:59:43 AM password changed mday_alt

2018-10-04, 19:53:35 Date Registered: S_Therapist

2018-10-21, 01:23:27 S_Therapist thread: Using Alt in Different Bounty https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5054099.0

2018-12-21, 07:50:33 Date Registered: Retina

2019-03-20, 17:47:58 Last post by utlptc

2019-04-23, 23:31:28 Last post before sleep mdayonliner

2019-07-16, 00:00:40 Last post before sleep S_Therapist

2019-09-09, 18:54:18 Last Active: utlptc

2019-09-20, 00:12:57 Last post before ban Retina
9/20/2019 9:19:42 PM Changed to Archived status Autoban user Retina

2019-10-25, 00:54:19 Last post mday_alt

2019-11-20, 23:15:50 Last Active: mday_alt

2019-12-25, 14:52:42 Last Active: Retina

11/16/2020 11:14:43 AM manual recovery, ownership change queued mdayonliner
11/20/2020 6:13:31 PM woke up S_Therapist
11/23/2020 11:25:02 AM manual recovery, previously-queued ownership change completed mdayonliner
11/25/2020 4:10:36 PM password reset via email mdayonliner
11/25/2020 4:12:06 PM woke up mdayonliner

Something no-one seems to have noticed before today:

Code:

2017-12-14, 19:18:19 Date Registered: mdayonliner
2017-12-18, 19:23:25 Date Registered: utlptc

mdayonliner and utlptc register just four days apart.  There are something like a dozen threads suspecting mdayonliner and S_Therapist are alts, - I haven't scoured over every line of those threads, but it's gotten me to wondering:

Questions:

• Is it just coincidental that mdayonliner and utlptc registered within four days of each-other with utlptc being a self-admitted alt of S_Therapist who has long been suspected of being an alt of mdayonliner?
  
  The same week utlptc last posts, mdayonliner removes their DT trust/distrust list - coincidental?
• How is Retina u=2508950 connected as an alt of any of the four UID's mentioned so far?  I've seen the user name ( Retina ) mentioned by others as being an alt, yet I can't see the first mention linking one to the other.
• If Retina was auto banned, does that mean there was yet another UID out there who's information (e.g. I.P. etc) caused a trigger that saw Retina auto-banned?  (what is that alt?)
• If people can accept a connection between mdayonliner <-> utlptc <-> S_Therapist *just* on the registration dates being four days apart *AND* Retina is connected to one of the four, then does it not stand to reason that all four ( mdayonliner, mday_alt, S_Therapist and utlptc ) are guilty of ban-evasion?
  
  mdayonliner also merits both of these two.

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[mdayonliner]

You seems genuinely interested to know the answers instead of shooting an speculation very quickly so I would answer some of your questions. I always was truthful and still is (yes, I have a big ego and kind of sick not to ignore things which was one of my issue back then I think but in this long break I changed myself a little).

Is it just coincidental that mdayonliner and utlptc registered within four days of each-other with utlptc being a self-admitted alt of S_Therapist who has long been suspected of being an alt of mdayonliner?

The registration within four days is just a coincidental event. I never reviewed utiptc account to see such things.

The same week utlptc last posts, mdayonliner removes their DT trust/distrust list - coincidental?

I can not remember when and why I removed my trust list but it has nothing to do with whatever utlptc did in the forum.

How is Retina u=2508950 connected as an alt of any of the four UID's mentioned so far?  I've seen the user name ( Retina ) mentioned by others as being an alt, yet I can't see the first mention linking one to the other.

You better ask this to hilariousandco.

If people can accept a connection between mdayonliner <-> utlptc <-> S_Therapist *just* on the registration dates being four days apart *AND* Retina is connected to one of the four, then does it not stand to reason that all four ( mdayonliner, mday_alt, S_Therapist and utlptc ) are guilty of ban-evasion?

mdayonliner = mday_alt. S_Therapist, utlptc and Retina are not alt of mdayonliner

mdayonliner also merits both of these two.

Since mdayoniner ≠ both of these two (S_Therapist and utlptc), I never seen any problem to merit them. Notice that I never exchanged merit in between my alt (mday_alt) and main account (mdayonliner).

"I always respected forum rules even private ones" - I always assured it and practiced it from my heart.

When the recovery team was in the process of recovering my account they checked my current IP (since they asked for it this means they have checked all the IP history they had in the system connected with mdayonliner), they even asked for my located city, country kind of things too.

[DireWolfM14]

I don't know why Retina was banned, or if I did at one point I have forgotten.

There were a lot of anomalies that seemed to suggest S. Therapist was indeed an alt of Mday.  Hilariousandco picked it out first, and he has a bit of insight (behind the scenes) that the rest of us don't.

By the time the Retina account was created, the forum had already run Mday and S. Therapist through the wringer, so I would imagine that if Mday did create another alt he would have taken precautions to ensure that account's anonymity.

From my personal perspective I can't say that I've seen conclusive evidence that Mday and S. Therapist are alts, but I've seen enough BS and squirming from both accounts to say that's a strong suspicion of mine (and I'm not alone.)

I will also say that I haven't seen enough to be convinced Retina is indeed an alt.  But, I am inclined to trust Hilarious, and I don't believe a single word Mday writes.  

When the recovery team was in the process of recovering my account they checked my current IP (since they asked for it this means they have checked all the IP history they had in the system connected with mdayonliner), they even asked for my located city, country kind of things too.

That's a strawman argument and it's completely meaningless.  Alts aren't against the forum rules, so as long as the banned Retina account wasn't connected to the same IP, the recovery team won't do anything about any other alts.  Who's to say that recovery team did check to see if you've accessed the forum from the same IP as Retina?  Did they?

[Timelord2067]

Thanks to both for your answers; I didn't expect much different from mdayonliner, but it's on the record.  (and yes I'm interested in hearing what the "logic" behind that "conclusion" in Retina was)

@DireWolfM14 - yes it seems others know the answer so hopefully they'll pick up the story where you've left off.