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Since bounty hunters are being blamed for the projects price drop,
Why not ask the projects owner to pay the bounty reward in BTC or whatever the investors used to invest in their project?
They've promised their hunters a reward that has a total of $ value on their token/coin but they couldn't deliver it.
Wouldn't this kind of payment would solve both the investors and hunters problem?
The project price wouldn't dump after the reward has been given to the hunters and the hunters would get what has been promised to them.
I think the BM's could try and convince their clients for this kind of payment if they give it a try.

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So, most of the altcoin bounties don't have any money to pay promised amount in BTC, so they pay in their own token.
Basically they play the odds.... offer a bog bounty, and if the project pics up, they reduce payment, and if it fails, it's hunters fault.

What projects should do, is define a reasonable bounty pool, and expect reasonable results.

We've discussed this many times before, it's easier for new projects team to settle bounty hunters with their native token as it costs nothing until the token add some values later, those projects that introduce USDT payment or ETH are well funded already probably by private investors or from the team themselves, stop hoping for all projects to start doing the same

Exactly why would they even promise something that they don't even have or couldn't deliver?

I am just stating the fact that we shouldn't blame the hunters for the projects downfall because it is also the projects fault.
Besides those who even reach their minimum goal should have enough funds to ensure their projects movement.

The investors invest to project so the team would be able to continue their project and if they will just allocate it to bounty hunters they will waste a huge pile of money since let's face the fact that some of them have multiple accounts, the social media accounts they have doesn't have really good friends most of them are bots or friends or followers that are not cryptocurrency related.

There bunch of similar threads like your thread and i suggest you search that before try to create a new one.  The project did an ico to get the funding and most of them didn't have any money on their pocked.  I guess like btcltcdigger's said above me as he has experienced managed some bounties.
Escrow is more than enough to solve the payment system for the bounty participants and when the dev can pay the participants use native currency would be better.

I'm not surprised, even in our daily lives you can easily get blamed for something you know nothing about, you can offer help to people and still get blamed in the end, those projects are built by humans like us so we shouldn't expect all of them to be trustful or have good conscience, the fastest way to get out of dirt when their tokens goes diving is blaming bounty hunters.

Absolutely. If we check the wallets of the bounty hunters, we will see so many tokens not even listed on exchanges. Most of the tokens have a value less than the transaction fee. Some people do bounties for many months but at the end of the day it becomes an unpaid-voluntary service. That makes the genuine bounty hunters to fly away from the arena.

Blaming hunters is just an excuses because like tokens held by investors who can dump anytime hunters are free to do so as well because it is their tokens, payments in btc or usdt has been discussed many times but seems like the project teams are not willing to pay in btc ir usdt and i always believe if the project is good and attractive volumes would be high which will have minimum even if many people sell at a time.

It's a good idea to allocate and pay the bounty participants in all kinds of liquid cryptocurrencies instead of the project native token.
But most of the project team/owners are refused to do it, due to unknown reasons. Instead, they prepared to pay with their own project token, And after it was listed the price will dump and started to blame the bounty participant it is very common in most bounties. Thats why in order to avoid this blame game it's better to pay the bounty participants in liquid cryptocurrencies.

Why all the blame is only on Bounty Hunters? Bounty hunters are to blame if the project fails but when the project is successful then bounty hunters are nothing. I think everyone wants to cover their own fault with Bounty Hunters. Bounty reward pool 0.5% or 1% of the total supply. If a project fails for such a small amount of tokens, then there is no need for all those companies to do a bounty campaign. If a project can't attract investors, is Bounty Hunters responsible for this?

Fully agree. A lot of people think that projects simply swim in money and decide to run a bounty campaign because they dont know where else they can spend money.

If projects have enough funds to be able to pay in BTC, they would definitely not spend them on bounty campaigns, but would rather pay, for example to news webpage like cointelegraph to run an advertising campaign.

People dont understand that projects pay in their own altcoins, because they dont have money for a regular advertising campaign. When they pay in their altcoins, their only expenses are gas fees and bounty managers fee. And the fact that their altcoin will have a value is partly dependable from bounty hunters work and effort spent. While all the hunters are like "make few clicks and demand tons of money $$$ quick! when distribution?"

Actually its not the bounty hunter fault because the majority of ICO's today distribute and give the tokens to there hunters, after 2 to 5 months maximum, based on my experience, and surely the price of the token, the coin will go down -50% because of lack of development, update from the devs leaving the project behind or turned to scam.

Many new projects use bounties to create awareness and hopefully raise enough money when it's crowdfunding time, it's not like all new projects are build by rich people or developers, if developers are damn rich they won't introduce bounties to create awareness, instead they will go to binance exchange straight up list their tokens or coins or use binance launchpads, ask yourself why we hardly see bounties from projects that lists on binance exchange...

Nice expectation lol,
Bounty rewards are mostly calculate the tokens only, Because of investors are plan to make a money in new project. But reality number of the project owner don't have a money to publish the trusted sites and they don't have money to launch the project. So they enter in the Bounty section because of huge whales are available in the market so any one whale's plan to invest the privately it make good for project owner. The current situation 90% of projects are failed in the current traffic and we never expect the BTC rewards in bounty projects.

currently the bounty reward is enough to make money, you can see a lot of good bounty programs,
before I entered HEX I joined YouEngine, and both of them have good value,
grateful that at the end of the year the bounty got better.

The problem is that not all bounty are like the bounties you have mentioned and some users won't just rely on 1 bounties and they will join as much as they could and of course we know that most of them are scam.

There are so many scam icos with very bad behaviour. The solution that mentioned by the thread started already discussed so many times by the various BM. I remember it's not only him but some bounty participants were actively suggesting this solution to the BM but it depends on the ICO team.
If the campaign has been creating by a good project and it's easy to discuss this as they have a fund to launch the btc or ethereum campaign.

only bonafide project that able paid campaign using bitcoin or other major coins. this allocation for campaign was not a little amount atleast they must provide 2 or more bitcoin for whole period. and remember they purpose help bounty campaign was to promote their project so they will get funding from investors, not spend money for us except they were existing project which is have big fund  that allocated for marketing campaign. and as bounty hunter we must ready to face any opinion about us , especially when token price drop, let them say what they want to said.

I've seen some of the ICO projects now giving btc and other alts for bounty than a year  before. Though that is still low. The interest for token based reward for bounty is low as many of the bounty participants felt betrayed and scammed. Even I was left with nothing joining some campaign. Most of the time they don't even bother to answer or pay and when they do, the tokens are useless. That's why I've stick to campaign that pays regular and the rewards are easily convertable.

It would be nice to take partake on that kind of bounty that pays btc, eth or usdt and it would be soothing for us bounty hunters to have nice profit in any bounty we are joining with and this will be benefited us one hundred percent. Unfortunately, some new projects are just starting up in a crowd funding to future investors so that's why they cannot guarantee to pay stable coins to us because they cannot also guarantee they will get funds or be successful for funding. There are no other payments to hunters but only their native tokens and to avoid these payments problems should be dealt with BM to come into an agreement before accepting the job or perhaps conduct an escrow system that will surely be a win win scenario to us hunters.

The bounty campaigns rewards is always the token of the project, then blame for the dumping of tokens. Rewarding them with eth or btc instead of the token from the project is more better, its a big brain move for example in DYP they reward almost 200 eth for the bounty. The project can allocate bounty rewards in btc or eth from the sale so the price wont dump.

Good for you I'd say but I think not all the bounty are the same and not all the time we choose those better ones.
I think both parties have a problem, so we can't blame each other. As a bounty hunter, there are some cases that I sell the coins right after been listed in exchanges because I am fed up with being a loser, just like I remember one time I take to hold my reward coin believing that it will give me a decent profit but it turns out the coin eventually become have no value. And that serves as my lesson that I shouldn't befall on sweet talks but rather think smarter.

Do you really think anyone want to raised money will use their money first ? They are looking for investors but they are not willing to use their own money for advertisement.They are looking for a way to get cheaper payment  and the way to do that is to give rewards to participants in token instead of other popular crypto currency.The easy way to get money without using any of it is doing bounties and that's what most project do right now.

Actually, these are just absurd accusations. After all, the bounty hunters were the biggest contributors to the project. They market that project every day and they have to think about how to make an impression when posting their articles. So they always deserve a salary, those who blame bounty hunters are very shallow.
If a project does not have enough pool to fund bounty hunters, it should be considered a shit project. Investors should complain to the project team instead of blaming us :)

paying with bitcoin only applied on huge project which is have many resources, and maybe they have private fund before running project. less project could involve in this type , usually they supported by seed  investors that act dev team too. remember dev team guarantee token price in market , they just using token value based on whitepaper to calculate total allocation in campaign.  so if price dumped we should not complaint it as long as they paid us.

Airdrops now is only use to make a fake and dead community, some project always use this to attract investors but sometimes the project using this method is for rug pulling project. Well majority of crypto users has been educated by those rugpulls and doesnt trust big but dead community, also the lots of bots and dummies in airdrop so the community will never be active by the airdrop.

In any case, a normal project should initially budget a certain amount of money for advertising. But they use the cryptocurrency they receive from ICO investors to pay their salaries, and they distribute their tokens, which have no price, to bounty hunters.

There bunch of similar threads like your thread and i suggest you search that before try to create a new one.  The project did an ICO to get the funding and most of them didn't have any money on their pocked.  I guess like btcltcdigger's said above me as he has experienced managed some bounties.

Like airdrop, currently there are very few bounties that can provide large income for the participants, and even many of the current bounties do not pay their participants at all when their project is finished, even though we also cannot blame the bounty manager for the occurrence this is because indeed it has become a risk for us bounty participants, and it looks like bounties and airdrops are currently only a tool for developers to get profits / money from investors, so that, in the end developers no longer care about the development of the project after getting money from their sale.

It's really disheartening but most BTC and stablecoin paid bounties ends up scamming. Only few delivers as promised but would be highly appreciated if they can accept to pay in BTC or any stable coin and still deliver as assured since they added hunters dumps their projects after bounty distribution.

You have voiced the correct and necessary idea, but this is not beneficial to those who launch crypto projects. To be honest, you have to tell the truth, most of these creators of crypto projects just don't want to pay. And the point here is not whether they have collected money or not, they simply do not want to pay and will find many reasons not to do so. I must admit that many are simply deceiving the bounty participants. Moreover, recently even successful crypto projects, in which the token is traded and in demand, will also fail to fulfill their payment conditions. Moreover, these payments are minimal. Yes, there are those who still pay, for example, in USDT, but there are only a few such admins and the payment there is also minimal. In general, the situation on the bounty market is very bad.

being bounty hunters, currently only accepting trash tokens and receiving payments with usdt it is very rare that the project team also does not want to lose because the usdt value is very high the price is rarely a bounty who is willing to pay with top market cap coins often have a price dump problem during distribution or when listing on The distribution market is also not full at this time for bounty hunters, on average, a lot of projects that have disappointed bounty hunters have happened several times and that is definitely making things worse.

Since bounty hunters knew that new projects team are blaming them for price dump why are they still promoting bounties that are paying in tokens? If you know what the bad seeds are just remove them, instead of complaining find solutions and the most effective one I can think of right now is start promoting BTC or stable coin paying bounties.

You may have missed the moment of 2017 where you can see how many people benefited greatly from the token payment received. in fact some people who have long been using signatures with BTC payments have also moved to participate in token paying campaigns.
moments have changed. the weakness of new tokens is that the market is not strong and cannot last long. but in my opinion it all depends on how carefully the team strategizes and plans.

What do you mean by usdt price is high?

Bounty Hunter doesn't have an option to get their rewards than selling it so I don't think we need to blame them. If the project it self believe in what they are building hen this suggestion will be good to us or at least half should pay in popular cyrpto currency so the tokens payment will not be affected that much if hunters want to sell their shares.

Nobody really should blame bounty hunters for giving up the assets they gained from participating in campaigns. But what happened was the recognition from the development team that blamed the bounty hunter as the source of the price reduction problem. Even though what happened right now was that many bounty hunters were getting paid gradually, they didn't get 100% in full.

We do have a hard time judging which project is better and better to follow, when the prize payment has been made and the price doesn't match, we can't start the project, but we'll see where all the prices in the market have been on a roll in recent months does not mean we blame the project because the market has not shown stability for all Coin and altcoin prices, this is actually a matter of patience, if someone intends to throw away the coins it is legal, it is their right to hold them or throw them away, because we know that we are also some This year has been hit by anxiety over the conditions in each country to overcome Covid19, which has an impact on the economies of all countries, so that's why most people throw away their tokens for their living needs ..

Before participating in any bounty campaigns we've been given the rules of the bounty campaign right? Everything is very detailed so there is no hiding here, bounties may decide to pay in tokens or popular digital currency but we bounty hunters arent the one to make the call, if you don't like been paid in tokens kindly go to service section and find btc paying campaigns to join, those projects blaming bounty hunters for dump actually don't have anything else to put the blame on, don't take that serious

The project's team don't have any funds to pay for bounty hunters with btc or eth that isn why they doing bounty campaigns as promotions they cannot afford to get decent promoter for the project. And it would be good for the bounty hunters to be paid by native token of the projects cause who knows the price might be higher than what you are asking for in btc or eth

This has been asked so many times before and my answer is still the same, they do not have a budget for this they also rely on their IOU token to pay bounty hunters, why would they have to buy Bitcoin or Ethereum when they can use their own token to get free advertisement, they also do not trust their token to have a good value when it hit the market, so they want to keep all the coins they've got from their sales.

Very true, sometimes project owners give unrealistic reward to hunters and when the project becomes successful they find it difficult to pay, better they have a limited amount of reward pool or specified payment for each rank, by doing this there won't be any fear of dump from hunters because they don't have too many tokens at their disposal.

This is really true that so lessen that blaming for the price dump which they always associated to the bounty hunter, it is really a good idea and method to give the rewards/payment for the work of every bounty hunters in terms of btc, eth or other stablecoins. In these way, the dumping scheme can be eliminated and I think its a Win-Win situation for all of us.

There are several threads with regards to this matter that is still not happening. There are a few bounty campaign (mostly about gambling) who uses bitcoin as mode of paying rewards which I think is good for their project. And if ever this kind of way the project developer consider paying every bounty hunter with some stablecoins it will really be a big help for them to eradicate the dumping of their own token.

I like this suggestion you made here. And it was that way with most projects running signature campaigns in 2017 and a few only running bounties. I do not know how all that changed and projects now all want to run bounties so they can cheat hunters out of their rewards and blame them later when project failed. I want managers to return to the past so that the cheating of hunters and blame can stop.

The offer is certainly good.  But I don't even know who will do this.  The projects themselves are happy to collect BTC and promote their company through investments.  So this is unlikely to suit the founders of the platform.  This is all described above, but I think that you yourself understand everything.

I somehow agree with you and in this way, investors or hunters problems will be solved but I believe it's practically tough to pay in Bitcoin or Ethereum because paying in their own token does not cost a lot to the dev that's why we get paid in project tokens.

BTC or stable coins for the bounty rewards that would be good for us as a hunter but I don't think that bounty managers can convince their clients to pay hunters a bitcoin. For sure the project team will prefer their own coin to pay to the hunters because they don't have money yet to pay bitcoin. We never know that one day their project will be successful and the coin has valuable.

I think it would be a really good solution for all the bounty hunters as well as the team behind the project. Because after the token distribution projects team probably assume all the dumps have happened due to the bounty hunters but most of the time these projects failed to achieve their goal and hence their social token become useless neither project get succeeded nor hunter get decent reward work they have done. So we have to fix this issue as early as we could for the bounty hunter to make their work worthwhile.

This is a fabulous suggesting，comparing to pay in project token，i prefer BTC or the other strong coin. But why pay in BTC rarely，may be the reason is just few project can afford to it.

Most project developers are cowards lol; some even struggle to pay community moderator charges in usdt not to mention bounty hunters; I think one problem they get faced is because team themselves do not believe in their project; this is why they promise $100 million for bounty hunters; and then scrabble and refuse payment when it is time to pay rewards because the token succeeded in price and value beyyond what the team expect.

It’s actually commonplace for developers and teams to blame bounty hunters if their coins fall when token first enter the market.
But it wasn’t entirely due to bounty hunter errors. Instead of that investors also have a role there, when they feel they have made a profit,
they will throw away their tokens. But bounty hunters are weak on this side. Very rare if there is a new project that will pay participants
with usd or altcoins such as eth. They mostly don’t have the funds for that. Unless you follow the bounty as I follow it.

for few project its already pay their hunters with bitcoin especially for signature campaign
but, for me, not all bounty hunters will sell their tokens as soon as they receive their rewards my friend
and sometimes a new project didn't have enough money to pay the rewards in bitcoin, so they pay with their tokens

There’s a lot of bounty rewards being paid in Btc and I believe those projects are willing to spend some money so they can get more from the future investors, they took risk first. On the side, those paying thru their tokens don’t want to carry all the risk and this is why they are sharing it to the bounty hunters in return of working with the project. Well, we can’t totally blame the hunters from the price drop this is an old saying of a failed project.

The team of those projects don't have any money of their own that's why they decided to give you their token in exchange for the services you rendered, sometimes those tokens maybe turn out to be a gem or sometimes it's might just be another shit coin  that will be stuck in your wallet,it all depends on the how the project turn out to be.
Sometimes after paying bounty hunters, most of the bounty hunters dump their reward that's why you don't always get the value they promised after distribution.
Bounty managers are not responsible for the success of the project, although  BM's can be paid in BTC but for the bounty hunters nah, projects will most time prefer to pay in their own token.

I really like projects that pay using ETH or BTC where they don't want to break the price of their token
like the experience that has been that some bounties who use their tokens too much for bounty rewards will experience a rapid price fall, this will be very confusing for investors

bounty prizes are not fixed, in the altcoin section the bounty prizes depend on the price of the coin,
if you compare it to the prizes from Bitcoin payments I would suggest that,
because if bounty payments use Bitcoin people will get prizes according to their work, and it's very effective.

This isn’t something that we should still be talking about by now, we have discussed this a lot of times here.
I don’t know why anyone would come and blame hunters, anyone blaming hunters for the price of tokens that fall is dumb asf.

Why would you be blaming hunters like it has anything to do with them? They were hired to work and after they finish working hard you expect them to not take the reward for their work because you think them taking it is the reason for the project falling? This is a complete dumb excuse. How about we blame the investors who will even pump the tokens and dump them later?

Yes they should because the bounty hunters are doing everything they can to promote their projects but if the idea is not innovative and unfortunatly some of them fail due to different reasons the bounty hunters do not receive their rewards and that can have a negative impact on their future work. And also we've seen a lot of tokens that did not even hit the market or they got dumped just minutes after hitting the exchanges.

It's a favorable condition for project developers to pay in their own token, and you are correct, even if they even have money to pay in BTC they would rather spend their own token to pay for promotions, so the market will decide whether they paid nothing or just a little amount for their marketing.

In my own opinion, the bounty pool is just a piece of a chunk of the total supply of a certain project. The one who dumps once token is listed are early investors or the team.

^ we cannot force the Bounty Manager to add conditions like the one above. Many projects that organize campaigns do not have large capital and can only pay bounty managers and marketing teams. we should be grateful that the bounty campaign is still around.

imagine if there were no more bounty campaigns then it would be difficult for us to get additional money from crypto.

Firstly, you should have it at the back of your mind that most project choose bounty campaign with payment in their native token compare to BTC payment because they consider this as the best option because they do not have to spend before their goals are achieved and in the case the project is not successful, it means they do not lose because bounty hunters will not be issue token too or they give them token that cannot be traded anywhere. Most time, project that pays in BTC will need to pay participants every week and the numbers of participants are limited because the higher the participants, the higher amount they are going to spend even if the project turn out unsuccessful. In bounty campaign, larger numbers of people can participate thereby achieving higher result at little or no payment. It is hard for managers to convince them because they understand, which one is the best for them so telling them to do campaign in BTC will make them look for another manager that is ready to work with their plans.

Shouldn't they? They should if they trust that whatever project they're chasing will be fruitful. That's what startups do. They either use their money, borrow from friends or take out loans from banks to get started. Getting hunters and not paying for the labour of spreading out advertisements isn't good for image of any project. Don't you know hunters can even go on a smear campaign and destroy whatever confidence that the project might've built among investors?

Are there many investors on the forum? Or in social media? Sadly, I did not know any case that bounty hunters really destroyed reputation of a project, when it refused to pay hunters their rewards. Never heard that investors after seeing numerous scam accusation posts pushed on the projects and forced them to distribute rewards, or asked project for a refund. There is even an opinion, that investors sometimes are the one who force project to scam bounty hunters with rewards or force them to cut rewards pool.

Yes. It's a good perspective. No. It's not going to happen. Reason: It's only projects that already has enough money on their own that can afford to go in that direction. All others will always pay the hunters using their project's token which would cost them nothing out of pocket.

Not ICO have make payment for bounty campaign participants with bitcoin I think just gambling site where they promote about project and give weekly payment using bitcoin, with ICO project almost payment use coin and some time giving reward with USDT and ETH. I think this wrong and you make mistake never have ICO project will distributed payment reward with bitcoin and the only gambling and casino site where payment with bitcoin, but have limited participants and only available for several participants have reach rule to join on their campaign. But will interested with any bounty project giving payment with coin than using bitcoin because have little reward than coin after listing on market.

How can bounty hunters  destroy a project. I think the reason why a project fail is because the people behind the project are not good enough to make the project more successful.

yes that's true it depends on the developer, an example of a project that provides great rewards but doesn't damage the price is a project in 2017, namely Electroneum, even this project can reach its ATH in a short time and maintain it for months
this is one of the most successful projects in my opinion

In my opinion, bounty hunters cannot be blamed for the decline in the token price of a project because the number of tokens owned by bounty hunters is smaller when compared to investors and also managers who manage the project themselves, sometimes even bounty hunters do not get the payment as expected, for example when The price of tokens rises, bounty hunters have not received payment, but when the price drops dramatically, new bounty hunters get paid.

Absolutely this is a bright idea. Actually it is not the bounty hunters that made dump the price. It is the private investors. Imagine bounty is only 3% - 5% of collected ICO money. Not all would dump the bounty money.

Anyway, I am belong to a bounty where the owner pays via XRP not using their own coin.

they don't have the money if they have to pay by btc, so they pay with their own tokens which don't necessarily have good potential, so I think they are just taking advantage of bounty hunters without clear payments or what is commonly called looking for their own profit

It's not always if they have money or not.
Honestly, bounty marketing is far less effective than traditional marketing like youtube or facebook. So they tend to spend their money on facebook ads or paying some influencers.
1 youtube influencer in my experience can be more effective than 2000 bounty hunters.

This is a bad excuse when their coin is not taking off in the market

People will prioritize this campaign if there is one

Bounty hunters should never believe that they are going to receive that amount translated to Bitcoin, only the market will give value to their coin

It definitely is but unfortunately very few bounty campaign offer this kind of rewards

 

This is exactly the situation, the project team is using bounty hunters to get bitcoins and ethereum from their investors. And they use these bitcoins and ethereum for their own purposes, which may not even be related to the project. But bounty hunters do not receive liquid cryptocurrency as payment for their work, receiving illiquid project tokens in return.

Undoubtedly, a Bounty company needs a lot of money to pay for the work of the Bounty, especially when it comes to projects such as YOUC, And if we take into account those Bounty companies that promise a small reward, then in this case it would be possible to take care of payment in any rating cryptocurrencies, and not in their tokens.

Have you compared youtube and twitter/facebook influencers with similar auditory and number of subscribers/followers? Or how to do compare these two? Youtuber with 50k subscribers is more effective than 2000 twitter accounts with 3-5k followers?

I just dont understand how to compare these two. Among 50k subscribers, it would be good if 10k would watch the video plus few thousands will watch it from "related video".

"2000 hunters *3000 followers" minus bots and those who does not read their twitter line I think would be better than 10k views.

Hunters always the subject to blame in times of uncertainties. When there is none uncertainty, hunters are safe from blaming. When dump starting to happen, they are blaming hunters where hunters not yet received the payment. Sometime unreasonable to blame hunters without strong proof of what they did to dump the price. Very wise move if the project will pay hunters in btc to make it fair enough and avoid blaming.

I have seen in many occasions that even though the bounty hunters spend a lot of time on promoting the projects, end of the day they get some coins which are totally unsellable. That is not fair when the effort they have made is concerned. One major weakness that the most of the bounty hunters have is, they do not do research on the projects they engage. Most of them do not even bother to have a glimpse on the whitepaper either. If you read it a bit, then you may get an idea on the project's viability.

True, investors should be to blame because they hold too many coins when compared to bounty hunters especially if investors throw away all the coins they have, the coin price will experience a very significant decline and it is difficult to experience the pump again. Because the biggest influence is on investors, not on bounty hunters

it will be very costly if the project team has to pay with btc or tokens such as eth or usdt. For those who are important, the reward for bounty participants is paid even though in the end the token becomes trash and has no value. so the project team doesn't want to lose and still get profit.

bounty payments for hunters using BTC or ETH are very rare unless the founders have very large funds, while the price reductions that blame bounty hunters are very large while the funds for bounty hunters are allocated very little, and even hunters the prize gets its reward after the price falls even if there is no price, all back to us to support and help which project will go ahead until it has a very reasonable price even on a very large exchange. while the opinion to blame the bounty hunters let it be.

Most of the project arrange bounty campaign before their token sale for raising funds for project developments. How do you expect them to pay you in other currency when they are trying to raising funds for the project. But the shocking truth is they don't want to pay with their own token by fearing price dump. They don't have faith in their project that their project will do good and will have a big market cap.

I guess projects paying in BTC or USD won't help the project for a long run. They are paying using their tokens in order for the tokens to spread in this industry. Instead of focusing to what will be the medium of payment, projects should focus more on long term progress and development of it in general. There's this assumption that when a crypto from a project is already listed on exchanges, price will suddenly decrease since most of the project's are only good in long term. To where projects should take actions is in the aspect of long run which can be observed to other projects in this industry, which are still existing at this moment.

I have seen little projects paid in BTC or ETH, but most of the projects not bother about bounty hunters, and BM can request to pay BTC or ETH, but BM also paid in tokens and some in BTC or ETH. Most projects nowadays started paying in installments 3 or more, so this is a good idea, and the price of altcoin will not dump if they will pay in 3 installments.

big reward is the only token of appreciation a bounty can give to its bounty hunters but that is if the bounty became succesful but if not them hunters can go home less or empty .
before when bounty hunting is verry fruitful we never see bounty hunters complain like this and we never see them complain about the big rewards that they get  .
 they should realize that and they can realize that what they do now which is complaining is verry wrong and rude .

BTC payment? Meh. Why do you think that scams still exist in crypto? Is it because they have money to start anyway or they just want to earn more?
Of course aside from the fact that they advertise their own product through tokens, it is because they want to hit the cap so bad that they won't throw a cents to it for BTC just for the sake of guaranteed payment for their promoters.
Remember they want their products to be bought by the investors, not that I am saying that they don't care about who works for them, but I am pretty sure they're prioritising the project's success.

For most projects creators bounty is a good way to make project well-known without spending much money. It`s almost free for them, because they pay in most cases with coin which they invented themselves, so I understand why so many projects do this and why we shouldn`t hope that one day most bounties will pay in stable coins or BTC/ ETH

Hunter bounty payments using bitcoin, ethereum or usdt already exist but only a little many of the projects choose to pay with their coins or token actually paying by using this will cause problems when the dump occurs the bounty hunter so wrong or it could be detrimental to the bounty hunter itself
because the price of coins or tokens is very small in the market and some have no price at all

I have rarely seen altcoin projects paying using btc for bounty hunters, unless gambling type projects usually pay their participants using btc. Most of the altcoin bounty projects always pay bounty hunters using their coins, and also depending on our luck if joining the altcoin bounty project, it could be that the token has a high selling value and vice versa.

Every time someone starts a thread to complain about how the token is now worthless when it started trading or how they were cheated and not paid I say that people should demand 2 things from a new coin they're advertising. The first one is escrow so that the manager gets the payment when the campaign begins. The second one is payment in existing cryptocurrency like BTC, ETH, or any other.

Some people say that they can't because they have no money. If you have no money then you're already bankrupt and want to make money out of nothing. That's a red flag.

Bounty hunters are not the one dumping price on exchanges, most times developers are just always using that as an excuse to calm investors. Your suggestion is good, instead of giving hunters their worthless token with low volume, is better sharing btc, eth or usdt so as to avoid dump.

I am usually joining a bounty campaign since I've known what cryptocurrency is, especially joining a particular signature campaign. Most of the bounty projects that are being developed are paying using their own coins depending on them how much they will divide the allocation and it is also depending on the stake. There are actually different types of supporting a project, it is either you will promote the project by using the signature and avatar while you are posting on the forum, there are also social media websites that you can promote the particular project. Sometimes the project is giving free rewards known as airdrop but that is not enough because it is just a small amount of coin.

This is impossible to happen,

Bounty projects do offer their token as a reward because they don't even have their own budget. All of their funds will be coming from their investors and that is what they will be used to fund the project including the bounty rewards. Also, bounty hunters are not really the ones who dump the coin, allocation for bounty campaigns is only around 1-2% of the token which is impossible to dump the price in the market. Bounty hunters are just being blamed by the project and other investors.

This has been a discussion even before, nothing happens and the developers of the project still want to use their token/coin to distribute to the bounty hunters. The reason is that bounty hunters can help to increase the volume of the circulated coin in the market. They keep on using the bounty hunters but in the end, they will just treat them as the one who destroys the project which we all know that is not true. 

To all the members who gave time to my thread thank you all,
I just created this topic to show that Hunters aren't the only one responsible for the projects failure or price drop and also to have a better reward system if the future campaigns would consider it.