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Hurray Crypto World!

Since we first came public in September 2019, the Neuralium [IUM] crypto token has gone through a long and trying TESTNET phase. We even had to return to the drawing board in May 2020 after our surprising encounter with “the brush” to design an entirely new rate limiting system. It is now truly ready to go live.  Green mining is the real deal and many people from around the world had a chance to try it during the last few months of testing. It works on desktop, it works on mobile, it just works!  We are genuinely excited by our technology and we truly know that it will change the world!

In these trying times with the COVID induced economic crisis, new and innovative options will be required by the people of the world to help ensure their future and personal security. The Neuralium will be a prominent tool in the world recovery. Come and join us in the crypto revolution!

So, we are very proud to announce that after all this hard work, we will finally be going live to the world in MAINNET using a two step launch process:


On January the 3rd 2021, we will make the official binaries available for pre-download so that everyone has a chance to setup and test their mining rigs before the mining launch date. During the timespan until the mining start date, rate limiting appointments will be run at the following dates in all 3 regions:

we will do 3 appointments (one in each region so a total of 9) on the following dates:

• January 18th
• January 20th

since our appointment regions center on GMT Occident -8, Center 0 and Orient +8 respectively, we will target an ideal time of 16h UTC.

• Orient: 20h GMT+8
• Center: 16h GMT+0
• Occident: 16h GMT-8

Until then, we still have a lot of work to do to complete the code, tests, and then update the website, the whitepaper, generate suitable user documentation and everything else required to go live. At the current moment, our website has not been updated yet and the whitepaper is still in redaction phase but a draft has been published.


So, please join our excitement and see you there!


by the way, come and talk with us on our official channels:

Official website: https://www.neuralium.com (https://www.neuralium.com)
Whitepaper draft: https://www.neuralium.com/neuralium-whitepaper.pdf (https://www.neuralium.com/neuralium-whitepaper.pdf)
白皮书的中文翻译（草稿): https://www.neuralium.com/neuralium-whitepaper-cn.pdf (https://www.neuralium.com/neuralium-whitepaper-cn.pdf)
Discord Server:   https://discord.gg/D8GfEQG (https://discord.gg/D8GfEQG)
Telegram chat:   https://t.me/neuralium_chat (https://t.me/neuralium_chat)
Telegram China chat:   https://t.me/neuralium_china (https://t.me/neuralium_china)




N.B.: In case you missed it, here is our original presentation thread from September 2019:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5181510.msg52351772#msg52351772 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5181510.msg52351772#msg52351772)

You can lock the old thread if this will be your new official ANN for this project. At least the discussion will be here and not anymore in the old one. It is hard to follow if there will be 2 threads that you need to check the updates and conversations.

hi is hope to see more info soon, do you have discord?

cool, didn't know we could lock topics, done and added pointers to this thread.

and yes, we have a discord server here:

Discord Server:   https://discord.gg/D8GfEQG (https://discord.gg/D8GfEQG)

Any specs about the algo used, coinbase etc ?

The whitepaper has quite a bit of detail, I strongly suggest giving it a look. here are the specs as they show up there:

• Name: The neuralium Crypto Token
• Ticker: IUM
• Mining Algorithm: Proof of Election [POE]
• Architecture Type: True blockchain
• Cryptography: Post Quantum
• Main signature scheme: XMSS
• Transactions per Second: 1000+
• Code base: 100% Custom built, unique and extendable
• Max tokens: Adaptable (fixed daily amount)
• Block bounties: Adaptable
• Official website: https://www.neuralium.com
• Block explorer: https://explorer.neuralium.com

Hello everyone,

Well it is now Official, the Neuralium IS LIVE!

On the 18th, right near the last minute we finally published the long awaited binaries and MAINNET officially went live.

The last few days have been intense for sure, quite a few new members have joined us on the ride since the announcement. We also had a couple bugs to fix here, a few adjustments to perform there, but we are flying! In the next few days, aside from bug fixes, the team will continue to prepare documentation so that everyone can be ready for mining start day on the 3rd of January 2021.

Tomorrow will also be the first set of appointments in all 3 regions. the Orient region has already closed with 13,259 participants!   this is quite a bit more than we ever expected!

If you want to join the green mining revolution, come and join our growing family!

You can find our website here: https://www.neuralium.com (https://www.neuralium.com), and here is the download link: https://www.neuralium.com/download (https://www.neuralium.com/download)

We also prepared up a few tutorial videos that help explain our 3 step launch process and how to get ready. all are available here:

Mobile English: https://vimeo.com/493391251 (https://vimeo.com/493391251)
Desktop User English: https://vimeo.com/493392770 (https://vimeo.com/493392770)
Desktop Server English: https://vimeo.com/493383402 (https://vimeo.com/493383402)

For our Chinese friends, we have translations here:

对于我们的中国朋友，我们提供了以下中文翻译：

Mobile Chinese: https://vimeo.com/493387788 (https://vimeo.com/493387788)
Desktop User Chinese: https://vimeo.com/493392015 (https://vimeo.com/493392015)
Desktop Server Chinese: https://vimeo.com/493384752 (https://vimeo.com/493384752)

finally, we also have draft user guides here (still subject to change):

Mobile wallet: https://neuralium.com/sites/default/files/documentation/Neuralium-Mobile-Wallet-Doc.pdf (http://neuralium.com/sites/default/files/documentation/Neuralium-Mobile-Wallet-Doc.pdf)
Desktop wallet: https://neuralium.com/sites/default/files/documentation/Neuralium-Desktop-Wallet-Doc.pdf (https://neuralium.com/sites/default/files/documentation/Neuralium-Desktop-Wallet-Doc.pdf)

so come and join us, the Neuralium will be a big hit in 2021. see you there!

Can it be mined now? ? Will the current mining be retained on the mainnet?

this IS MAINNET, but mining is not enabled yet. we have to run appointments through the holiday season to verify users through our own custom designed anti brush system. this must be performed ahead of time so that everyone can have a fair chance to be ready when mining starts.

Now mining actually starts on Sunday, January 3rd 2021 at ≈11:00 EST. once mining starts, the tokens are yours forever.

see you there!

It is impossible to start on desktop it is necessary to start the wallet and the server separately, but when creating keys, the encryption process stops at about 50%. Everything works correctly on the laptop, Windows 10 x64 pro on the laptop and desktop.

https://i.ibb.co/6bXKPNb/2020-12-25-211047.jpg (https://ibb.co/J23Y7C2)

The team is very active in the discord channel and is working very hard on the Mainnet launch I think by January 3 they will be able to make a successful launch and all errors will be eliminated. :)

Hey!  yes, the last few days have been INTENSE to say the least!  We ended up having a few more bugs that we would have liked, but the team works around the clock to fix them. The real Heroes are all our friends in the various channels working with us to get through this initial launch phase. Their patience is just incredible and we are so lucky to be with such great people. Thanks to their help and support, we are pulling through.

We are very much still on the track for January 3rd. Tomorrow starts the appointments of the 27th, that will be a big step forward for us all. I will update once we know a little more but the last appointment had nearly 60,000 participants in it!  :o

Things are intense like I said, it is for the best.

We are in the waiting mode for the launch of the mainnet, and what is the expected issue of the Neuralium token, what will be the total supply of the token in the end? Maybe I missed something, I just didn't find the information.

In the discord (https://discord.gg/Q2TAAhp) announcement channel, a message appeared about the postponement of the mainnet launch to January 13, this is a more realistic launch date by which the team will have time to solve all the problems associated with the mainnet launch.

https://i.ibb.co/xsTz76f/2020-12-31-115945.jpg (https://ibb.co/QcwYKMC)

Hey everyone and Happy new year!

well, we are never bored with the Neuralium, haha.  Seems our launch was quite a bit more successful than we had ever anticipated and we got crushed a bit by the load. This is what I call a quality problem, lol.


Anyways, we had a few hitches with our launch, but there is nothing to stop us, we will press on as much as we will have to. The dates have changed a bit, but not by much.  Team has been having quite a few sleepless nights revising the code to make sure we be ready for the launch, and tomorrow we will release version 1.0.1.

We hope this one will be the good one. But I do remind everyone, Neuralium is still very young software, and it can be buggy in the early days. If you prefer stable software, it might be better to wait a bit and join us in a few weeks. Out tiny team of 5 has trouble keeping up with the demand, so in the early days, it is better if the "adventurers" stay with us, and later everyone else can join when our tech will have stabilized a bit. Mining will still be there  :)

In any case, the IUM is a hit, and I think 2021 will be a great year for us all.

We are waiting for a new release from the developer in the near future with the changes made and bugs fixed, but in the meantime I see that version 1.0.0 is still available for download. And yet what will be the general offer of Neuralium tokens?

this is a great question! and I dont even have a full answer for you yet. the honest answer is that I am still observing. Why? it is because of our unexpected launch popularity. When we started the project, we hoped to get a 100 miners at launch. and if we were lucky, get a frew hundred active users. In a case like this, a smaller amount of tokens is fine.

but, what we are seeing now is that we are going viral, we've seen more than a hundred thousand users join up on our appointments, and this is even when the appointments failed! what will it be when we finally go through? we could easily expect a few hundred thousand users, maybe even a few millions within the first few weeks. so, in light of this, we have to establish a daily amount that will be useful to users. if we have a million miners and 10 tokens per day, that wont be much.

so, I am observing the appointments and the kind of numbers we will get, and from this I will determine at the very last minute the ideal daily token count.

TL;DR; I am in observation mode to determine the best amount at the last minute that I can do so.

Great in this case, we are all still in the role of observers and look forward to the launch of mainnet Neuralium and the release of a new release, I hope everything will go as the team plans. :)

Observing a new project is needed nowadays to see the truth of the development they are doing, I will try to read the white paper of this project first. ;)

We need to see first if they can indeed implement their goals and not just only talk. Nowadays, it is better to sit back and relax, and see if the team can truly realize their goals. We are burned by so many crap projects already. So right now, we need results before anything else.

You could try it during testing and the program worked well, now as I wrote above, preparations are underway to launch mainnet and this imposes additional difficulties, for example, running the client on a laptop does not cause problems, but on the desktop the server has to be started manually, I hope this will improve with the release of a new version of the client. In addition, the testnet did not have hundreds of thousands of users who wanted to try green mining Neuralium now the situation with the load on the network is changing greatly. And how the development of the project will go, you need to look in the future here you are right.

Thanks Daltonik!  yes, you are very right. In TESTNET, our mining worked really well and plenty go to try it, we know it works and it is truly exciting!

what is giving us trouble right now are the "doors" that we added in the last 6 months to prevent a flood of abusers. These doors (which we call appointments and the THS) are very complicated technology and do require some finetuning. This is what we are doing right now. One thing we have to admit is that they are very efficient doors, since right now, nobody got to create an account yet, haha  ;D

when the doors will finally work as they should, and we will know more about this today, good users will finally be able enter, the Neuralium is somewhat like a VIP club. Those that will be in the club will be comfortable, mining safely and without hassle while the abusers (the brush) will be locked outside.

so, the Neuralium works, it is just VERY complicated technology and we are finetuning it, and we are almost there now.


but let me tell you this:  it is 100% certain the Neuralium is going live! this is a certainty!  it is only a question of how long to finetune it. the team will NEVER give up, NEVER! we are in this all together and we are going all the way...

see you all when we are live  :D

Today I tried out version 1.0.1 on the desktop I have previous problems with starting the server, I can not understand what this can be caused by. :(

In the channel's discord, an announcement was made about the possible, hopefully extreme, postponement of the mainnet launch date to January 18 "...The team is in agreement, we will have to push the date by just a few days, but this time should really be the last time.
our troubles are almost over now,  some people even got published
appointments will be:
January 10th, 12th, 14th (and we reserve 16th in case of unplanned  issues)
mining starts January 18th"

again, thank you for the update Daltonik.

Here comes another update. a few days ago we had a few more issues with the appointments, and that caused the date to slide again a bit. Since then though, we are trending up! All our hard work seems to be starting to pay off, and now, we have been successful with appointments. The last two rounds have been doing great, and users are already beginning to report the first confirmed accounts!  this is very exciting, we are finally where we wanted to be.

Mining is now set to start on the 18th of January, until then we have 3 sets of appointments. today, the 12th and the 14th. if we have any issues, we may make an appointment on the 16th to compensate, but until now, things look great!

a tiny bit more patience, we are almost live!

Hello. Do you have any ideas on how to solve the problem of starting the server? For example I have to run neuralium.exe from the \neuralium-wallet \ neuralium folder to start the server. When I try to start the server from the wallet panel, I get an error:

https://i.ibb.co/kJ390yH/2021-01-15-131347.jpg (https://ibb.co/sC56QPm)

After running neuralium.exe (\neuralium-wallet \ neuralium) everything is going well:

https://i.ibb.co/g9wBsTF/2021-01-15-133340.jpg (https://ibb.co/4tM5BTg)

I dont think this announcement thread is the right place to perform debugging. Come in our discord channels which are expressly setup for this. we will be happy to assist you there.

Well, thanks for the advice for the discussion in the discord channel, but I seem to have solved my problem by simply placing the server executable from the folder into the folder.  Now when I start the wallet, I get a message that the server is running. :)

For the first time I hear that the project was abandoned by someone, the launch of the mainnet was postponed and it was reported that time will tell next

Only action proves anything, and it is the very act of creation that renders something credible; what makes something credible is to give it life. We are doing just that, and it does not matter if you find it credible or not, I can assure you we could not care less. The neuralium is in the process of being created and once it will be fully alive, it will have all the credibility of it's existance.

we the dev team and friends have one mission and one mission only, make it happen and give it life. And we do this no matter how much time, effort and setbacks it takes. Creating something from nothing is hard, but it is worthwhile.

The garbage project, you have postponed dozens of times, and you have no skills and credit at all,As of January 2021, it has been postponed three or four times

So, it is in a beautiful Canadian snowstorm this morning that I proudly announce that we had a resounding success with the Orient appointment this morning!
yiippee!! 3500 accounts finally went through in a minute.

so, in retrospect, despite a few more bugfixes, the feature that made a definitive difference is the backup appointments protocol on port 80 that we just added.
It seems that in Eurasia, ISPs are blocking outgoing nonstandard ports! we did not expect that. This is what was causing appointments to fail so often in China and other Asian Countries.

on a side note: it is a sad day for the free internet this is a certainty. Hopefully we can help reverse this trend by forcing back open the internet.

So, this also means that if we can keep it up, we are well on track to launch on the 20th mining launch, stay tuned.

I finally figured out the failure to start the server from the wallet panel, just by default the folder with the wallet files has the name and does not involve renaming it, I also had problems after changing the name of the folder with the wallet files. :)

Ok, it's very strange project and team. All my messages with critics in telegram chat were deleted without a response. The dialogue did not take place  :D 

haha, we are strange, that is for sure! I take it as a compliment, we truly think differently  ;D

about telegram, our moderator (Katherine) has to handle many hundreds of messages daily of all types, so she does not have any time to waste on trolls. She took the aggressive stance of deleting trolling postings. Sometimes she could make an error and delete legit messages by mistake, but we can't blame her in the barrage of posts she has to sort through. (especially that she runs most post in an automatic translator and a lot of the original meaning can be lost.)

There is a big difference between constructive criticism or valuable comments, and emotional rage postings and trolling rants. We see a waaay too many of the later and we delete those on the spot. Intelligent comments and opinions are always kept, reflected on and addressed.

it is funny how some people's idea of constructive criticism we should consider is "this is rubbish, i hate it, grrrr grrrr grrrr, look at me I'm mad!".   ::)

then they go on bitcoin talk as 1 post newbies and make sure to post there to take their revenge, hehe.


we will always be friendly and courteous to good people. Act respectable, and we will respect you. Super simple.

Sure, everything is true (no). But that's your business, your face. I see your twitter is revived (thanks to me). It's good, thank you.

yeah, for twitter thank you! I appreciate it.

it was always alive, but I just did not go very often, we are already plenty busy in the discord and telegram channels. To be honest, we did not get any comments before so I did not expect any activity there, but now we do, im surprised! I will try to visit it once in a while, did not realize some people were following us, it's pretty cool  :D

Hello there.
I have a server running 24/7 with ssh. Can I mine into your token system on this server (no xwindow or etc) ?.

Looks like an project, the developer will adhere to the roadmap, then investors would be better off. But I know it I quite a difficult task

Passed the puzzle solution and received verification, published an account now the start mining function is available, but as I understand it is not active yet, now you can just wait for the mainnet to start?

https://i.ibb.co/zGn74Kh/2021-01-19-164419.jpg (https://ibb.co/SRsd3qX)

Congratulations Daltonik!, you are all setup and ready to mine, yoohoo!! ;D

Yes, mining will start on January 22nd (unless we hit some big iceberg or something like that), so now all you have to do is wait. on that day, mining will start and you are all ready to go.

On the team's side, our appointments were a success in all 3 world regions yesterday, finally marking the point where we are ready to go live. The technology is complex, but we are almost out of the woods now, and the party is soon to start.

see you there everyone!

Well let's hope that everything will go smoothly and mining will start on January 22 and will not meet any pitfalls. I wonder what is the total number of validators?  :)

But my account still not published  :-\ It is a revenge?  ::) 

https://i.ibb.co/G9NkNXn/image.png (https://ibb.co/tzFcFSQ)

the appointment system delegates the validation process to 1st tier miners. So not only are 1st tier miners the backbone of the p2p and distribution of the blockchain, but they also serve as opportunistic validators for the appointments.  The number of validators will always be the number of 1st tier miners.  we run surrogate validators to patch up the holes until the p2p becomes strong enough to become completely self sufficient.

@Mandolorian  There is no way for us to take revenge on anybody, it is all anonymous and bound by cryptography. I can see the transaction pool, but so can everybody else, since every miner maintains it's own trx pool and it is all public. If we look at transactions, we only see meaningless numbers, there is no way to identify it and link it to anyone.

plus when mining will start, transactions are selected by the miners. actually we are the only crypto among the most prominent ones to do this. THIS is true power in the hands of the people.

Sorry, about revenge is a joke. About account - no.  :( After yesterday puzzles my account still not publishing. This is problem, not trolling

ok, sorry then. I misunderstood your tone, my bad. Block 10 was just released, see if your account is confirmed in it once it is synced. If not, then it could be a bug, our software is getting better but is not perfect yet. reapply to the next appointment tomorrow, im sure you will get through, it is getting pretty solid now.

Block 10 was just released minutes ago with 387 confirmed account transactions in it.

https://explorer.neuralium.com/Block/Details/10?backto=Index (https://explorer.neuralium.com/Block/Details/10?backto=Index)

Hi, don't worry, everything is fine, I think just a delay with the next block of the chain, as soon as the next block appears, I think your account will be verified. There doesn't seem to be a time reference here

Sorry, It seems this is my mistake. I didn't know that I needed to click on "publish account" again  :) It looks like i will have to wait for the next block  :D
Thanks anyway
https://ibb.co/4dFWJsh

https://uploaddeimagens.com.br/imagens/Jgl07Jw
I need to wait or you can close????

gotta let it run



everyone, if you have questions, please come to our telegram or discord channels.

Discord Server:   https://discord.gg/D8GfEQG (https://discord.gg/D8GfEQG)
Telegram chat:   https://t.me/neuralium_chat (https://t.me/neuralium_chat)
Telegram China chat:   https://t.me/neuralium_china (https://t.me/neuralium_china)

EVERYONE, please pay attention!

In order to help our friends that remain stuck on an old wallet, we are giving you a chance to upgrade. We created a new appointment in the ORIENT region for tomorrow, January 23rd at 01:00:00 UTC. In China, it should be on the 23rd at 9h am. in EST timezone, it should be at 20h on the 22nd.

This is your chance to upgrade!

If you already have a confirmed account, it is MUCH easier to backup and restore than to risk another appointment. So make sure to do that!

if you are stuck, then delete the app, create a brand new wallet, and apply in the appointment. We will make sure it get's verified before mining start.

good luck!


here is a quick guide on how to backup and restore your wallet if you want to upgrade your version:

https://www.neuralium.com/sites/default/files/documentation/Backup-RestoreWalletGuide.pdf (https://www.neuralium.com/sites/default/files/documentation/Backup-RestoreWalletGuide.pdf)

So as I understood from the dev messages in the discord channel https://discord.gg/Q2TAAhp #daily-updutes found problems in the launch of mining and asked to update the wallets to the current version 1.0.1.5 from the official website https://neuralium.com/sites/default/files/wallet/windows/latest/neuralium.wallet-windows-MAINNET-1.0.1.5.zip , waiting for the final solution of the problems and launch

Hey everyone!

well, we are getting mighty close!  everything seems to be stable now, the block emission has begun, we are currently live! Mining has not started yet, the blocks are not yet mineable.

Mining will start tomorrow morning the 26th some time in the vicinity of 10h to 11h am EST (GMT-5).

everything is so exciting, it is happening! see you there everyone  ;D

Finally, we can congratulate the development team on the successful launch of mainnet Neuralium, v. 1. 0. 1. 7 works perfectly, 3rd tier mining is up and running stably for me :)

https://i.ibb.co/HTd17YN/2021-01-27-110512.jpg (https://ibb.co/s9HkjQ5)

Sorry, but it cannot be called "works perfectly". Nothing works for most people. You can verify this in the official Telegram chat

Perhaps you are right, but I wrote and meant that everything works fine for me, but this does not mean a great job for everyone unfortunately.

I can't wait to be verified actually! This is something what I was looking for, for a long time!  ;D

Guys this is a unique project, no one has yet guessed to make a KYC for a wallet ;D

Well, this can not be called KYC as proof of identity rather just checking that you are a person, not a robot, for example, Idena uses a similar system based on periodic sessions (epochs) of verification by solving flips created by the users themselves.

OK, then why invite to the office to verify your identity?

Well, this is very conditional, meaning just completing the puzzle in the allotted time, you can say such a virtual office without a personal meeting and presentation of identification documents. :)

i created the account, and asked for that "appointment", seriously? what is that?
crypto always did for stay anonymous, put an anti-robot solver, not this shitty appointment???? seriously????

This is not what you think. Just wait. But it also seems to me that it should have been called differently. Validation, for example. Or "Are you definitely not a robot?"
And yes, this is very strange for a cryptocurrency. What if I just want to send or receive a little? This is straaaaaange.

Hey Everyone!

Neuralium is now live and going well.  The peer to peer is already more than 1/4th the size of Ethereum's and growing...  not bad for less than 3 days after mining launch.

see you there!

i got some coins but no any transactions.

is it normal or bug?

yes, in the near future we will add the creation of non verified accounts (that can't mine) without going through the appointments. We are a tiny team of 6, so we can only do so much in a day. but we will get there. it will get better in time. give us time, we just launched. bitcoin had 12 years...  ;D

Version 1.0.1.9 suddenly stops mining, rolls back to version 1.0.1.8 it works more stably for me this was not in it for three days of use I use it so far

downloaded the wallet, seems that it's active now. how to mining?

edit: italian version "vicino" for closing a window is wrong, probably you wanted to write "close" or a simple "ok"

To start mining, you need to have a published account, to do this, you need to pass verification in the form of a puzzle solution at the appointed time, after receiving confirmation, you need to publish your account and start mining. All documentation is also available here: https://neuralium.com/documentation

We are waiting for the release of next version 1.0.1.10 Neuralium Wallet scheduled for tomorrow I hope the new version will be more stable in mining :)

1.  Wallets do not hold sync with the network and often lag by 2-3 blocks, likely meaning they are taken out of the hunt for block rewards

2.  Tier 1 Server Accounts are broken for many and the attitude from the team has slowly turned towards blaming the users and their 'computer problems'.  It is a software issue.  This ain't my first rodeo and I have never had this kind of issue before.

3.  While I can respect the desire to create a means by which coins are created by something OTHER than hardware that consumes energy, in the theoretical sense I am sort of failing to see how this achieves any real value.  Would love to be proven wrong here, but the 'mining power' that is being put to use here is merely having a network connection.  That means, at .0000000001 Sats, it is profitable as there is no power or hardware that is expended to acquire it.  It is, so far, low emission, but I understand that the emission will grow to accommodate the size of the network, ie., more miners... more coins, sort of keeping scarcity as a constant.

4.  So far, wallets have to be set up through either a ~24 hour hashing algo (for servers) or solving a puzzle to prove human interaction (for Tier 3) initially, and every 30 days going forward.  That means if someone just wants to acquire IUM through an exchange or private sale, it will take a minimum of 6-8 hours (Tier 1 with multi-threaded support) or about 2-3 days to have a wallet capable of receiving the coins.  This needs to be addressed before anyone other than miners can be expected to show an interest.

About the mainnet launch...

IMO, should have just been called a Testnet so all of the bugs that have come to the surface would be seen as signs of productivity instead of signs of a lack of foresight.  My insistent expressing of this in the Discord has earned me a ban.  Truth be told, I dared them to... and they did.  But another truth be told... I have a pretty high batting average in spotting what thrives and what languishes.

Hey everyone!  things are doing really well. every day, the code gets better, we now have many thousands people mining actively. tomorrows Orient appointment will have +9000 people, imagine that! 

things are intense for the tiny team, but we are holding up. will bring more news in a few days, see you there!

Reading the discord channel https://discord.gg/NQNkXVmVe3 and the telegram channel https://t.me/neuralium_chat , it can be seen that many users are faced with the problem of lagging synchronization of neuralium wallet, according to my observation, mining is still more stable on version 1.0.1.9 I have already started the second day of stable mining on this version, on other versions, mining stops some time after launch

https://i.ibb.co/symzBKm/2021-02-02-172158.jpg (https://ibb.co/6gnLdHn)

Over the past day, the fourth release of neuralium wallet v/1.0.01.14 https://neuralium.com/sites/default/files/wallet/windows/latest/neuralium.wallet-windows-MAINNET-1.0.1.14.zip  has already been released and it works quite stably, at least for win10, I hope the team finally managed to make some progress and fix the main problem leading to the mining shutdown.

https://i.ibb.co/KX4y5gb/2021-02-03-154229.jpg (https://ibb.co/JK6kcTm)

Any updates on exchanges or anything like that? I'm throwing some hash at the project.

We the dev team can not have anything to do with exchanges, especially that the IUM has no monetary value at all for us, so exchanges dont make any sense for the dev team. But I am convinced that the users will find creative outlets to their imagination!

are you serious? this is the worst thing you could say as admin of the project.
what the sense creating a coin without a value?
let make see your answer to all miners, and see how many of them will remain with your f*****g (and bugged) project

yes, there is no monetary value at all. You are most welcome to go mine on the other 3000+ crypto tokens out there.  The Neuralium is for people with vision, the greedy can use other tokens, it is perfectly fine...

so people will use their resource (cpu, ram, electric costs) to sustain your free "ecologic token" without a value.

congratulation!!!!

exactly! some people can see value in other shapes and forms. Doing something different also has a moral value in itself. but again, we never claimed the IUM was for everyone, those who don't like it are welcome to mine other tokens, its a free world.

on our side, we continue strong with the winds in our sails, IUM is growing quickly!  next appointment is next sunday, see you there everyone.

and remember, if you participate in the appointment, make sure to open the app a few hours before (like 2-3 hours before) so that your app can prepare itself for the puzzle.

see you there!

say it better: open your app much before so you can sync your wallet because that shitty network can't sync properly most of the time.
and don't think your post will be old. i'll remember all about your conecpt of token with no value.
you are only a bad joke for real crypto world

ok, trolls are in full force today...  ;D

This is being watched for a long time, glad to hear you have successfully launched your mainnet now. Not too late to say congrats! I can see lots of project improvements on discord, wallet updates works for me and got some IUM now since the last successful appointment.

Three days worked on the wallet version 1.0.1.14 problems were not observed mining TIER3, was stable all this time, now switched to version 1.0.1.16 I hope the new version is also stable. :)

hey, this is so nice to read, really happy to have you among us. and thank you of course! I think we will do great things together in the future!


Yes, stability has increased dramatically in the last week, and while 1.0.1.16 is a minor wallet update, it will be huge for mobile when it is released in 2 days. stability will increase dramatically.

really looking forward to sunday's appointment. For anyone in the appointment, remember to log in for about 30 minutes a few hours before the appointment to make sure your phone get's all the material it needs to be ready.

see you there everyone :)   IUM is on it's way to success and we are all in this together!

PS: I made a short video to congratulate everyone on the launch.

https://vimeo.com/503718172/e2a62b2050 (https://vimeo.com/503718172/e2a62b2050)

I can confirm that 1.01.16 is much more stable.

Let me guess:
1- your network is not working cause sync problems (and you're still not able to know the reason, or yes and you don't want to admit it?)
2- cause these sync problems the ones that are able to remain synced to last block can keep mining and get big rewards like a "solo mining", your fair concept of mining where is?
3- in any case these people are mining only for the "honour" as your coin has zero value for you (your words)

good luck again to all in investing money (vps/server rental), electric bills, pc resources, mobile resources (have i to continue?) in this full failure admin

not sync why?
https://prnt.sc/yi7714

Hi. What is this error mean:
[ - Error] : Failed to register message through web { ThreadId=20} ?

Ver. 1.0.1.17

Not defending it, but you are completely wrong here.
1. Not working? I ran 2 wallets on vps server and my desktop wallet, everything works normally. If you have a problem getting a node peer, let it open for a few minutes/hour. It worked for me and for many people, have you tried it?
2. Can you tell me what is "fair mining" in your opinion?
3. About this one, let's talk about it logically.
- Did the team ask you to mine it? No in my case, I mine it because I like the idea.
- Did you know it does not require that much resource to mine it? just for your info, running the node and mine it = browsing on the internet using chrome. It is because it does not require a lot of power from your GPU and CPU(even chrome takes more resources than this).


I can talk about all of those because I use it and experience it directly, I do not run my desktop pc for 24 hours but for a few hours. I just mine it for fun(but in return I can get free IUM while doing my thing on my desktop), so what is your problem?
If you do not like it, do not take it. It is as simple as that, do not overcomplicate things.

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P.S In case you do not believe it:

https://i.imgur.com/6w6BBWE.png

Usually, it's always below 200, maybe memory leak as JD mentioned on Discord ??

Thank you Javi!

and yes, I think you most probably have the memory leak version, the usual server node hovers around a stable 200mb. you might want to update, the leak is already fixed in the latest version.

Well everyone, we are doing really well. Just today we welcomed 2500 new active users in the appointments (these are real live HUMANS, we actually had 14,000 requesters all in all). Everything was a success.


Now, it depends how we count of course, but at the time of writing, we are already half the size of ETH!

in ETH, the number of nodes on the p2p is equal to the number of miners, so +/- 8500
in IUM, we have 2 types of miners:  actual p2p server nodes, and 3rd tier (mobile) miners.
if we take the raw size of the p2p,we are just about 1/3 the size of ETH at the moment.
but if we combine the mobile tier miners and count in terms of total active miners, we are already half the size of ETH  :o


so, IUM is going strong!  see you there and stay tuned for more updates.

useless you keep defending him as an asslicker, you only give answer you want to do, not the right answer.

sync is always bugged, many accounts always needed hours praying for a peer update correctly the blocks: this fact means that while all these peers are out of sync the few other peers correctly connected can mine and get more reward (this is what you call fair mining?)
on common blockchain networks even if some miner has an hasrate lower than asic, at least he's guaranteed that HE IS ALWAYS CONNECTED TO THE NETWORK and not cut out.
the only point where i agree with you is the low cpu usage, all the other things sorry but admin is making a big fail, until the network sync will be not working properly this will be a scam coin, what if a group of peers/servers correctly synced will cut out all the other users (when they are out of sync?), they will broke the full chain
answer this now!

and about the resource, anyway i don't think that a server using 30gb ram for the verification process is cheap, it's a cost. moreover for a coin without future on any exchange as admin don't want to do it.

I tried to make a transfer between my wallets, everything went well received 10 IUM and withdrew from 16.6 IUM, the minimum withdrawal amount 0.000000005 IUM, all deposits and withdrawals were successfully completed :)

https://i.ibb.co/whStnHH/2021-02-10-183845.jpg (https://ibb.co/23vJz22)

https://i.ibb.co/W3YSLqh/2021-02-10-173038.jpg (https://ibb.co/26fXTm9)

https://i.ibb.co/dPKvRKP/2021-02-10-175345.jpg (https://ibb.co/2vKrTKv)

https://i.ibb.co/1fBwKvJ/2021-02-10-183619.jpg (https://ibb.co/ns45fg8)

I've seen several crypto platforms that have services like the one Neuralium provides. And most of those platforms are not operational anymore or you can call it dead. I hope Neuralium can thrive and survive. Because the services you offer are very attractive and have the potential to grow in the crypto market if you are really serious about platform development. I wish you all good luck.

Thank you for your wishes!  we worked 7 days a week for 3 years to build this platform entirely from scratch. believe me, we are going nowhere and we will still be here in 100 years. the IUM is here to stay and time will prove this.

but the way, Happy Chinese New Year to everyone!!  year of the BEEF!  ;D

Hello. I downloaded the latest version of Neuralium wallet 1.0.1.18 and the Use TLS option appeared in it can you tell in which cases it is recommended and what it gives?

https://i.ibb.co/R9rfn6X/2021-02-16-130624.jpg (https://ibb.co/hyQb5dG)

And in the wallet account, the Renew Account Verification button appeared after clicking on it, I get a request window for a meeting, but I already agreed on a meeting earlier on February 12 and did not receive anything. Now I have agreed on a second one, but so far nothing is happening either, the window for verification is between February 12 and 19

https://i.ibb.co/VD3sRDm/2021-02-16-13172.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

https://i.ibb.co/kX3JzGq/2021-02-16-131635.jpg (https://ibb.co/9WwhBpy)

So well, this time it turned out to get approval for a meeting for verification for tomorrow, in the early version 1.0.1.17 I did not wait for the meeting approval for two days, now I got the following. :)

https://i.ibb.co/cQmJvG4/2021-02-16-150159.jpg (https://ibb.co/pdm2PtY)

This all looks very strange and suspicious - last update on github was at least 13 days ago,
last version on github is 1.0.1.15 - so who made all these updates after version 1.0.1.15,
and why it is not pushed to github?

Well, I think that it's up to the developer where to prioritize, in any case, their website has all the current versions of the files and they are version 1.0.1.18 
https://neuralium.com/sites/default/files/wallet/windows/latest/neuralium.wallet-windows-MAINNET-1.0.1.18.zip
https://neuralium.com/sites/default/files/wallet/macos/latest/neuralium.wallet-mac-MAINNET-1.0.1.18.zip
https://neuralium.com/sites/default/files/wallet/linux/latest/neuralium.wallet-linux-x64-MAINNET-1.0.1.18.tar.gz

Feel free to send me some IUM :-) account id: {U3DRY}

Congrats to everyone who is already accepted on the network.

It is quite advisable to push the new code to GitHub.

Ok sent you some IUM from {U55YY}  :) On the issue of posting updated codes on github, I think the developer takes this seriously and will post them, they are quite active in discord, I think it's better to point it out to them there https://discord.gg/Q2TAAhp

https://i.ibb.co/sPJBbrY/2021-02-17-11551.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

Yeah I know that they are more active on Discord, I am a bit of a stodgy forum user :)

Thanks for the IUM :) next person who posts his/her ID will get a small donation from me.

I have been running into issues with the mobile app, I have tried to complete the confirmation activities and the last one never works. Additionally Seems like my desktop version is also not working correctly. Any suggestions?

Check your log to see what is the problem happened on your side. If you are using windows, go to C:\Users\User\.neuralium and find log folder to check it.
If you have a problem finding nodes, that is normal because it takes a few minutes to hours to get nodes from the network.
Just make sure to open up your wallet and do not close it.

seems after 1 month from launch you are still not able to properly sync the network and it's still able to receive a p2p attack to cut out users from mining and letting the other getting x100 - x200 reward.
i'll always remember you how much ridicolous your project is if you didn't tested this mainly important things on a test net.
go keeping all yuor interest in "appointments" and leave these things to the chaos

Are you still here  ???

There are no perfect networks and no perfect blockchains all of them are vulnerable in one way or another the question is only in the resources and the desire to use it, in neuralium there is no capitalization yet, so there are no attempts to capture the network, well, or not yet, the team is constantly working to improve the code and the stability of the network. Just look at the number of Neuralium Wallet releases they have released, they are quite open to a constructive dialogue with everyone who is interested, I do not understand your negative attitude to this project. And why do you think that during a violation in the network or when blocks get stuck, someone gets x200 reward, if the chain does not move, then no one gets a reward for this time, I do not understand what kind of network capture you are talking about, to discuss this, you need to give specific facts, but in the explorer at the moment you can not see the balances of the wallets of participants, and if so, it is pointless to talk about it

Sorry to wedge myself in the conversation, but there is a grain of truth in his words. First, the network continuously creates blocks. It doesn't matter whether there are miners or not. Neuralium is centralized if you didn't know. And if 99 percent of the miners fell out of the network for some reason, the remaining 1 percent gets the entire reward for them.
Secondly, similar precedents happen from time to time. Well, for example https://explorer.neuralium.com/Block/Details/1187?backto=Index 1 server take all reward.
Or this https://explorer.neuralium.com/Block/Details/1168?backto=Index
and this https://explorer.neuralium.com/Block/Details/1132?backto=Index only 22 miners, where are the rest?
Or https://explorer.neuralium.com/Block/Details/3565?backto=Index block without servers.
There is even better, block without miners https://explorer.neuralium.com/Block/Details/1774?backto=Index but with transaction

I just want to say that if your chain has stopped, it still continues to mine from someone. For now there are many funny and sometimes sad actions in the blockchain. And one mobile phone mines more than one server. Maybe appointments is really not the biggest problem. But the developers knows better. Hope they know what they are doing. Once again, I'm sorry to interfere. Peace :)

Mandolorian, you have to be careful, disinformation by omission of facts or misdirection is malevolent. You are not being fair at all.

The Neuralium is comparatively the most decentralized of all crypto tokens out there right now! yes, the block emission is centralized, that is true. But the blocks are empty glass jars. and if you are fair, you will know that every other crypto token out there are ALSO fully centralized in the block emission by the mining pools.

Where Neuralium shines and is better than the others, is that we are the ONLY ONE that decentralizes the most important aspect of the block creation to the public, and this is transaction selection. blocks are just shell containers, they do nothing and hold no power. What truly matters is that transactions are selected by the public and miners with cryptographic proof. This is the case in IUM. every other token has the transaction selection fully centralized by the pools; and transaction selection is where the true power is, and IUM gave this power to the people.

here is a chart we made that helps compare various prominent tokens:

https://www.neuralium.com/decentralization-graphic.png (https://www.neuralium.com/decentralization-graphic.png)

https://www.neuralium.com/decentralization-graphic-small.png



And I also see that we have some trolls. you know guys, the worst punishment you can do to a project is to ignore it. if you want to hurt the project, the best way is to leave. If you remain in our ecosystem, you are actually helping us!  you know the good old saying in marketing: "talk about it in good, talk about it in bad, but talk about it!".

so thank you very much for the help :)

It is impolite to call someone else's opinion disinformation. I am not convinced by your arguments. To stop the Bitcoin or Ethereum network, decisions of several people are needed. One is enough to stop neuralium. After all, the fact that it is supposedly the most decentralized is also just your opinion. Let everyone in this topic decide for himself how decentralized he is.
Besides, I wish your project only the best. I would be grateful if you could tell us more about the "custodian".

1) finally someone that can understand the vulnerability of this project. admin only think i'm here to troll, that's not the point.
2) you posted the block explorer link before me. thanks for saving me some research.

1) only 1 people can brake the full network, i would not call this project "51% attack safe" when only 1 can broke it, and proof is when a block is mined by only 1 person :)
2) don't say decentralized when reward is centralized (how is it calculated? you choose it manually? what if you cut all others out of network and give you 1M tokens when/if this coin will have a value?) this is the most dangerous thing that could happen in a coin developing. no excuse for that

1) if i am still here is because the project has some new ideas from others but very horrible ones also, and it seems you don't want to fix/change them (banning me on discord would not stop me from following and writing here, where luckily this is an open space)
2) an admin that does not want to accept suggestion or fixing problems (when many times reported) does not deserve success in his project.
3) it's your choise to listen and proceed to fix them or not. i won't change what i said to the begin, i'll keep staying here and informing all about these ENORMOUS problems (without considering you don't want to give this coin a value on any exchange now or in future, that is one of the worst thing you could say)

Oh neurallium, the network where decisions of one guy impose change on everyone involved. How have u, lonely housewife with wide thighs, come upon this imperialist design? It also abraded my ears when I heard that neurallium is about to go pubic. How can u go pubic when u have no shareholders to cast opinion on the makings and happenings within ur project? U may have a sheaf of arguments to counter my legit concerns but u wont change the fact that u offer people a totalitarian reign.

well, haven't we raised the passions!  this is awesome  ;D


well, there is not much room for opinion and feels here since we have the facts to fallback on. Let's use them shallwe!

so, let's use bitcoin for our example, but its the same for all the others.

Bitcoin is 100% centralized. for one, it's development is now completely controlled and in the hands of the blockstream company. But also it's network is completely in the hands of the top 3 or so mining pool. You say that many people are required to stop bitcoin, but this is false, you simply ASSUME that this is the case, but you have no facts to support it; and this is fact because we have no idea who runs the pools. The top 3 or so mining pools are operated by completely unknown entities. And since they voluntarily "split" a few years ago to prevent a 51% attack (because they had it since a long time ago), it is very safe to assume that all top pools are operated by the very same shadowy entity in the back.

If this single entity decides to stop bitcoin, at any time it wants, it is the end. NO more blocks. They can of course also block any transaction they want, because there is no accountability at all, and they select all the transactions.  If this entity blocks your transactions, who will you turn to? there is no accountability, and this is the worst form of oppression.

Im sure you will argue next that bitcoin can be restarted by others, haha. ok but we have to also consider objective reality. if the mining pools stop bitcoin, it will fall off the difficulty cliff. It would take years to mine the next block. no more transaction, nothing. it will be stuck, it will crash it's value and it will be the end. The code could be hard forked to change the diff, but for one, it will still take days, weeks or months to agree on who get's to do it and how, and the token will still be completely frozen during all this time. and of course, even if we hardcoded a lower diff to unstick it, what value do we use?  no value will work and it will be destroyed. The bitcoin mining is a technological ponzi scheme in the sense that it is designed to always go up, but never artificially down, or it will be brushed.

and even if, after all this, it manages to restart, it will simply re-centralize into another set of shadow pool operators. and you have no idea who they are and they are accountable to no one.

this is total centralization, and the worst kind. It is also worst than banks because at least banks are legally accountable to the country they operate in. In bitcoin's case, it is complete, total and unaccountable oppression.


Well, thank you for asking! While it has been discussed at lenght in our official channels, i can talk a bit about it here. The custodian is Neuralium inc. which is essentially the dev team. The company is incorporated in Canada and is legally liable to the laws of Canada and accountable to the government of Canada.

The fact of the matter is that true decentralization is impossible, this is why no other crypto token has achieved it either up to now. But the next best thing is accountability through transparency. This is what Neuralium is doing, and this is how transaction selection is performed, through cryptographic proof that the miners hold. the custodian is forced to be accountable at all times.

as a useful follow-up, I will post here 2 entries from our FAQ on discord:  (if you want to see more, come and visit our discord chat, plenty of material about us there)





a lot of people love the "dream" of crypto, but they do not want to hear about it's reality.

if something like that happens, simply the 3 mining pool will get traffic shutted down from all world miners, don't worry.
and for what? for a little reward of BTC for only 1 block mined?
losses are more than the future incoming from keeping the pool active (remember that they keep a % from every block) so the money reason is itself a reason to don't create problems.
moreover the BTC reward (as any other coin), is not decided from mining pool but from the bitcoin software itself installed in billions of computers, not from your own company, fixed amount halving every X blocks, currently 6.25BTC (300k$ at current rate) anyway let's continue the calc: every day are mined around 144 block, they are about 48 for each pool statistically speaking, 48 daily blocks * 6.25 BTC = 300 daily BTC mined from a pool, 300 BTC * 1% commission (sometimes even more) = 3BTC daily incoming.
do you really think a pool will broke their work to get only 1 block (6.25 BTC, when they can keep getting 3 BTC daily only from commissions?)
even if it should happen and let's say they became crazy... simply all people will get back to solo-mining or going to a new pool, difficulty will be automatically lower and old pools will get nothing anymore. this is what DECENTRALYSED really means, that no one can control it, only if someone get 51% of mining hashrate that nowday is about no more possible considering the amount of people.

in your case it's YOU and only YOU or YOUR COMPANY to decide the amount to give to miners, and who can get it.
this is NOT how a decentralyzed work.
being a canadian company does not mean nothing. we all know stories from exit-scam company from any country. it is not important where it is located
who can assure us that the blocks with 180/200 IUM mined at once are not yours after you cut out other people from network? (i'm not saying you did that, but who can assure? can not be proof of that until the reward system is based on your own control and the chain can be manipulated from only 1 user)

and if you want really improving your project learn to dialog with us who give negative feedback instead of blocking us ;) you can learn more from a single negative feedback that from a toon of ignorant positive feedback, only because they are getting some coin without knowing real problems.

you are being disingenuous there marco89.  You are trying to tell me that pools for bitcoin, although centralized would not shutdown because they would want to protect their own profits. this is misdirection.

What you are saying does not address the core problem that the pools, if they want to can shutdown bitcoin any time they want, point blank. Who knows, maybe they are owned by banks now ( ;)) and if the banks hate bitcoin, they might be waiting for the right time to press the stop button.

What you are arguing that an entity will fight for it's survival as long as it is profitable to do so is true for any company. Ford has been in business for over a 100 years. VISA and Mastercard have been in business for a long time too. So does Paypal, and any other company for that matter. Projects live on as long as they are worth it to run. It is unfair to assume neuralium will shutdown the project just "because".

Now about the inflation, it does not matter at all what are the rules of the inflation, whether it is hardcoded in code or established on a schedule by people. It has no importance whatsoever. What matters is that the economy of the token be optimal, so that the (moral) value for the owners of tokens is optimal.

While we are using BTC as our example, i can assure you that BTC's inflation model is substandard and inefficient (this is entirely provable although it would be a long post), but they chose it because it was the best they could do. IUM uses a smarter, more dynamic model which has for a goal to have a more stable token for everyone, and thus happier users.

Although the Neuralium team could technically change the inflation model, for one we can only do it if we benefit users, otherwise we will lose our Oh So Important credibility and nobody wants that, we work hard to build this, like any other company we want to maximize the project. But even BTC could change its inflation model if it wants to. all Blockstream has to do is change the code and voila. most people will always follow the brand "Bitcoin (tm)". (as we saw in the segwit/BCH debacle).


It sucks that every crypto out there needs and has custodians, but it's life and it's reality. Now the next best question is, do we know who the custodian is? is it accountable to the people and users and is it accountable to a known set of laws?  it must be and this is what we do.

i don't know if you can read yourself.
no one can shutdown bitcoin because mining (even if currently is in mining pool hands) can be switched in few time from them to all different computers/servers/miners all over the world. this is called decentralyzed system.

in your case mining is centralyzed. end of question. only you decide the mining reward, when and where distribute. not the network. you only. end of question.
this is not something all your users can avoid in the same way they could in a btc (or else) network.
in your case you are effectively a bank.
in a btc network (and other coins) the bank is the network itself, the reward is not decided by someone, easy.

seems you can't understand a simple concept

I have a question for the developer, if a commercial company is registered in Canada, then it should earn. What will your company earn if you don't want to be in the business of selling your coin?

marco: you sure seem to have quite the grudge and an axe to grind ;)

The Neuralium inflation model is a formula that is pretty much constant, and it has to be keept that way so that the inflation remains balanced. It is not something that is changed on a whim, like you seem to imply. It is a formula that is known to the public and is not changed often if ever. But it could be changed if inefficiencies in the inflation were detected, and this is always done with the public and is also true of other tokens; they will hard fork if they have to. The goal is to maintain the system stable.

Comparing Neuralium to a bank is trolling in it's purest form; banks are an entirely different thing and you are only trying to hurt by throwing ad hominem attacks towards the project. this is trolling at it's best.

but you know what marco, if you don't like Neuralium, just move on; go to the other 3000+ tokens out there. we never claimed to be everything for everyone. Some people wont like what we do and there is plenty of token diversity just for this. We strongly encourage and respect the other tokens, they have great offerings that offer something different for different kinds of people. Have a nice life!


This is a great question!  I've answered it multiple times in discord and telegram, but I will be happy to do it again here:

We really are a crypto token service company; in short our business model is to make money on valuable services we will offer on the blockchain. We could have taken the easy way and done what everybody else does and start the services on an existing blockchain, but we have larger dreams. We knew we could make a better blockchain, especially one that had the features we wanted like being green (this is capital, we did not want to further help the destruction of the planet through mining), we needed quantum proof and other cool features that the IUM has or will have in the future.

So, we decided to create our own blockchain first, to the specs we wanted, and AFTER that we would start running services on that blockchain.

For sure, creating a new blockchain and crypto token took much more time than we had initially expected! haha, knowing what I know now, if I was to go back to the start of it all, im not sure I would do it again, lol. it was HARD!  but anyways, we are here now.

So, the idea is that we now have a defacto double role.

roles 1: Benevolent custodian of the token:  like any token out there, there is a dev team (a company) that takes care of managing the token. it is the roles we take on neuralium. Because of the laws in Canada, we are not allowed to make profit directly with the token itself and we are not allowed to mine it or it would be illegal and we would go to jail. so, we donate our time to maintain the project for free. This is good because it helps the team keep a cool head and remain disinterested with the token, in order to lead it correctly and bring it to become the best it can be.

Because we can't make money but it does cost money to maintain the IUM, we intend to do an  STO (on another new and independent token) later this year to fund the project through the community. a kind of "GoFundme".

2. once the blockchain is fully stable and working, then we will switch mode and begin creating valuable services on the blockchain, which is our primary business model. Anybody on earth is free to make services for the IUM ecosystem, and we will make some too. This should bring us some money to be able to operate. For example some of the first few projects we have in mind is a mining pool and escrow services to facilitate safe OTC transfers of tokens.
 
I hope this answers your question feeltun  :)

your way to answer questions denying what i say but confirming that few lines later is unique in the world. ridicolous ;)

DENYING: CONFIRMING: you have chance to change that? yes. so you can't keep deny what i said. only because you don't do now does not mean you won't do in future.
moreover are we really sure that accounts getting high rewards when these "strange" network problems are not really yours? i'm referring accounts that the other customers shared before. or do you want a refresh memory?

DENYING: CONFIRMING: i can call this a bank ;) other coins does not have your power, other coins are managed from miners, not from a company. keep denying that if you like.

you use different words but they are the same ;)
i can call my cat a dog, but always a cat remains

beautiful attempt at false equivalencies, bravo marco, you are right in your mind i guess. and because the IUM sucks for you, you will go to beautiful BTC right, I wish you the best of success. again have a good life.



Now for the smarter people out there with the ability to think and see the world like it truly is, here is a bit more for your convenience.

Many people are way to quick to place decentralized/centralized dichotomy in a black & white paradigm.
not all decentralization is good, and not all centralization is bad. People are becoming obsessed with this, and their beliefs on the matter are based on complete ignorance of the nuances of the matter. the truth is that everything in this world is centralized. Computer manufacturing is centralized, electricity production is also. this very board is too. Centralization is unavoidable right now because decentralization is the victim of human nature. The key is not to avoid or hate this fact, it is to structure it in a way that is good for everyone. This is why that the true workable solution to the problems of this world is accountability through transparency.

Bitcoin, ETH 1 & 2, Monero, XRP, IOTA and many others are all fully centralized, point blank. The users have no control. In the case of pool dominated tokens like BTC for example, it is the pool that has all the power and users have no choice but which pool they will mine on. The pool makes all the blocks and picks all the transactions and receives all the tokens. The users are just delegated the scraps. If the pools stop operation, the tokens remain stuck to impossible difficulty levels from which they will never come back down unless centralized again.

there is a quote I love:



this is VERY true with crypto. some very clever minds have managed to market cryptos as if they are decentralized and the people believe that. But the cryptos are not decentralized at all, every single one of them, no exception (any successful and large enough one). These cryptos are very centralized and DANGEROUS, because they are disingenuous and hide this centralization, which is the absolute worst kind of oppression: hidden absolute power with no accountability.

and hence again:


there is nothing worst than thinking that we are free when it is not so. If there is a government or some form of management entity, it should be KNOWN, it should VISIBLE, it should be ACCOUNTABLE and it should be TRANSPARENT. Failing at all these things, cryptos are a tyrannical synarchy.

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FYI, wikipedia definition for the word "synarchy":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synarchism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synarchism)



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Neuralium is actually being honest about being managed by a custodian that is transparent (and will be more and more as we move forward), and we get flamed for being truthful and honest; It's a sad state of affairs. But lets move on, we can change the way people think about transparency in the world. We will bring honesty and accountability through cryptographic transparency. The people will get used to accountability through transparency and will begin to request it in more institutions. we are starting a movement, one that can make a real difference!

another similar quote from Charles Beaudelaire:


im not talking about religion at all here, just taking the quote to image the fact that the most evil bad actors will hide to make a product seem to be without influence, while they very much are. People hate the banks, think they are fighting the banks with crypto, but they don't realize the banks (through their various forms) are already behind all the cryptos and control it all. except with crypto, they are not accountable to anyone and can run a full on tyranny. If the mining pool owners decides to block your transactions, who will you turn to? exactly...

cryptos are a synarchy, a very very cleverly disguised one to boot. Neuralium is honest, and we put all the cards on the table. its the only way we can build something true and great in full honesty and respect of people and humanity

yes, continue speaking like a polithic about abstract things and not materials facts.
and keep ignoring the problem of sync stucked from more than 12h :D
your project deserve total failure if you are not able to fix a thing like this
really people want to listen someone that don't care that at all?

Hey everyone!

here is an update from the team.

Things are doing very well, we now have 8000 active miners, and still growing fast, yoohoo! The team continues to be very active in improving everything daily. every day a bit better as we say.

Now important for everyone, we all have to update to the latest version of 1.0.1.20.  I had a bug in my math and the account Ids in previous versions are wrong, so we all need to upgrade to latest version. Especially if you intend to do appointments. Due to regional differences in the dates interpretation, we had to change the format to make sure it was more international, and everybody needs to new version to perform appointments correctly.

Because of this week's transition to the new version, appointments will surely be rocky a bit this week, but everything should be resorbed by next week. again, be sure to keep up to date on versions, it will move fast this week.

We also finally decided on our the schedule that will get us going for the next few months.  Here it is:

• Central region will be on Mondays at 12:00 UTC
• Orient region will be on Wednesdays at 16:00 UTC
• Occident region will be on Saturdays at 00:00 UTC   (friday in the targeted timezones)

so come and visit us in our channels, at this point, sky's the limit everyone!

I am not sure that desynchronization is a common problem, for example, I switched to using the mobile version of mining and there is no lag from the network for the last four days, according to my observations, the transition from the mobile network to wi-fi is not noticeable. :)

yup, network is fine and going strong. and every day we fix more bugs that make it even better. for example, v22 brings in more fixes that will make a huge difference.

Some people don't understand what is the process of development of new and innovative projects.  They forget that BTC was riddled with bugs for it's entire first year of existence too. They only want the "corporate experience" of pitch perfect software from day one. For these people, other projects are surely better; IUM is fully home-brew. Getting massively better every day though, but still hand crafted by a small team of 4 unpaid devs.  Some people will never understand that and it's fine. let's move forward shall we.   :)

For everyone else, version 1.22 should arrive by the end of the week end and will bring a large number of bug fixes. stay tuned

Since JD has not posted anything about it here and it is pretty crucial or important for the users.

https://discord.com/channels/619305180235825162/619305180235825166/815929976129060884

Quick note for those who have upgraded their wallet either it is a server or a user wallet to v22.
v22 has a bug in base32 serialization that is causing issues with account Ids, there is a chance for your transaction to go missing.
That means please do not send anything right now if you are still using this version to prevent you from losing your coin.

Thank you Javi!

yes, very important, everyone should upgrade to the new version v23. Desktop is already released and mobile will be released anytime now. It has very important bug fixes and previous versions should be deleted as they can be dangerous if transactions are sent. Same thing for appointments, v23 is now required to make appointments.

so, after all this, v23 has been released and seems to finally bring us the stability we wanted. It was a lot of work, but we did it! so, we can finally breathe a bit. IUM is on rails; there are still a few bugs here and there but nothing catastrophic. mobile mining is stable; server mining is stable; now we are getting somewhere.

so, at this point, here is what we have ahead of us:

1. mining pool.

we will begin work on the pool this week. I already have the design in mind, so it's just to put it down on paper, and then the team will share the dev load. I myself am often called to fix bugs on the server nodes so I can't quite focus on the pool too much. Will take care of the design and then hand it over.

2. The mining pool is the prerequisite for us to get back into the app stores

we know that behind the appstores is a tsunami of users. In order to accomodate them, we need code to be stable (pretty much there) and we need a pool. so let's revisit this topic once the pool is live, perhaps in a month

3. documentation

obviously, all this crazy work since december prevented us to find the time to update the documentation. Whitepaper needs a serious review, and of course, general documentation for the various software we publish.

4. The final inflation formula

Since launch, we used a simplistic inflation formula which was fine up to this point. Now I want to design the actual formula that will keep us going for the foreseeable future. Once this new formula is coded, I will publish it on github and the current one will become an antique. (i will publish the current one too, so we can have the history of inflation algos)

5. More sophisticated server verification

The server verification protocol we use right now is effective but simplistic. In order to be ready for decentralized appointments, we need to test port 32888, and perhaps test for general latency, "pocket" THS, also blockchain sharing memory hard questions, etc. So the validation protocol will be made more sophisticated in the coming weeks

6. patience

other than that, we just have to be patient. Every day, more tokens are mined and released out in the world, and more users join all the time. More users talk to their friends which brings even more users, and so we grow. We just have to be patient and every day, the IUM reputation solidifies a little bit more
if you are curious, we now have 3750 server miners and 5150 mobile miners for an estimated total of 8900 miners
growing every day. now that appointments are fixed, more will come as we know some people lost their verification.


so, if you never tried the IUM before, now is a good time to do so. Hope to see you around and come to see us on discord.

what is this?

https://i.ibb.co/h9gRwHZ/asdasdasd.png (https://imgbb.com/)

a simple display bug. to be fixed in the future when we can get around to it

There is a vote happening until the end of the day talking about re-targeting the inflation ratio on Discord.

I am thinking of re-targeting the inflation ratio from 10:1 tokens per user per day to 1:1. The reason is, the numbers are going up a bit too quickly.
if we do this, it would give a huge bonus to early miners, but the bonus is not yet too large, we can still adjust. and we can say that this bonus is to compensate for the buggy first 3 months that we had; which is somewhat fair.
please vote with the reaction icons:
if you agree that we should retarget to 1:1 then vote Thumbs up, if you think we should stick to 10:1, then vote thumbs down

https://discord.com/channels/619305180235825162/680089781618737203/818129334640181268

Vote your option and let the team hear your opinion about this matter, your voice matters a lot for the future.

hey! thanks Javi for posting this.

Yes, we are facing our first big community decision.  When we started in January, we took a decision, and now that we have about a month and a half of observation, we can better evaluate the consequences of these decisions and adjust if necessary. In this case, the 10:1 token per user per day ratio is proving to make the numbers of tokens a bit high, and it will become more of a potential issue in the future once the number of user grows and time passes by.

So, while it is still early, we have an opportunity to reevaluate our decision and correct course with what we now know. its a community decision, so everyone's vote matters. if we stick to 10:1, its perfectly fine, and we will live with the numbers.  if we retarget to 1:1, then numbers will be smaller, easier to manage for people. it will give a bonus for the early miners, but it is fair since mining was very rocky in the first few weeks, and miners deserve the bonus for having stuck with the token during it's difficult times and help us push through.  anyways, the depreciation through the early years will mitigate this advantage very quickly, so we are still fine to adjust.

it's exciting, our first community move all together,   ;D

Hey everyone!

well, I barely slept last night; I was thinking intensely about the topic of the potential modification to the daily user:token ratio, and I am confident that I found the right solution.

First and foremost, I want to thank EVERYONE, whomever you are and wherever you are in the world for your thoughts, comments and participation yesterday in the discussion.  What it showed to us all is that we have a fantastically smart, powerful and engaged community that is able to think and reflect as a team and as a unit, and that we are very powerful all together. The new IUM community is top in class and I am VERY proud to be with every single one of you. thank you for joining up with us!

So, I came up with the question yesterday because in the end, the IUM is doing something that is entirely new and something that has never been done in humanity up to this point. A constantly growing (mining) token pool that is pegged to both a daily user:token ratio AND pegged to the block active miner count is completely innovative. nobody has ever done it before at such a large and dynamic scale before. And since it is all new, we are all learning as we go about how this inflation model will behave over time and with fluctuations of active miners. We are all learning as we go, and so am I, and it is normal to reflect and question certain things until they become clearer.

In the end, after intense reflection and spining it all from all angles, I came to the conclusion that our current model is already perfect and does not require any changes at all. As we all know, the key to inflation is it's constance and predictability. Inflation can increase or decrease over time, this is actually fine as long as the rest of the economy proportionally follows with it. But what truly matters is that this inflation be constant and predictable in time. In this vein, I realized that we could not change the inflation model now; it is too late. We made a choice at launch, and now we live with it forever.

The current formula generates very nice numbers. For example, I inquiried with a distant friend that I knew was mining last evening to gather some comments, and she told me that within 3 or 4 hours, she had mined 2 IUMs. I reflected on this and realized, these are fantastic numbers!   0.000343211 would be an impractical number, but 2, it's perfect.

The real issue and what prompted me to consult the community was not the formula per say, but rather that this formula would make very large numbers over time as the daily mining always carries over. For example, when we have a billion miners, then the mining would unlock 10 billion tokens per day! its a large number, even if it remains a proportional 10 tokens per day per miners (which produces stable inflation). There would one day come a time where this number would be too impractically large for the human mind, and this is where I thought we might need to adjust the ratio. But in the end, the numbers are arbitrary and can become arbitrarily large, the only thing affected is their human level usefulness (ease of use. for example, it is much easier to use 10 tokens then 10,000,000,000 tokens, even if 10 is really 0.0000000001 relative to the larger version.)

So, the solution I came up with is to inspire from the concept of decimal readjustments like the mBTC and uBTC concepts in bitcoin and create the concept of an IUM scale modifier that represents the inverse of a 10 based logarithmic scale.


I thus introduce the (tentative) scale format for IUM as IUM|x, meaning the inverse logatihmic scale modifier to apply to the number. the modification formula thus becomes y = IUM * (10^x);

example, for now, the baseline IUM represents IUM|0. so IUM == IUM|0.

10 IUM|0 is equal to 1 IUM|1. (1*(10^1)) = 10;

---------

1000 IUM|0 is also equal to:

1 IUM|3 (1*(10^3)) = 1000.
10 IUM|2  (10*(10^2)) = 1000.

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1_000_000.1 IUM|0 is also equal to:

1.0000001 IUM|6 (1.0000001*(10^6)) = 1_000_000.1
10.000001 IUM|5 (10.000001*(10^5)) = 1_000_000.1
10_000.01 IUM|2  (10_000.01*(10^2)) = 1_000_000.1

etc.

For the forseable future, we will stick with the default baseline of IUM (a.k.a. IUM|0), but in the coming years, we will add the concept of scale modifier. Then as the token base grows over time, the scale can be adjusted infinitely to push us into the future and maintain perpetual proportional balance.

This concept combined with a stable inflation per block active miner becomes the most powerful inflation method that has ever existed in humanity up to this point. And we can be very proud to be on the forefront of innovation. lets keep going, great things are ahead of us.

I will define all the above in much greater detail in the whitepaper in the coming weeks once I have time to sit down and write this new chapter in our story.

It seems to me that it is better to make a fixed issue of coins that is not tied to the number of miners and make it reasonable, if the algorithm allows it, now circulation supply 2,525,588.386108399 IUMs on average 143 blocks are mined per day mining began in early January, but there were a small number of blocks mined in the first days, 143 blocks per day the network began to mine from January 26. Thus, in 45 days, 2,525,588 IUMs were extracted, it turns out that the reward for the block is 392,47 IUMs, I think that this is quite a large amount, it turns out that in a year the inflation will be 20,485,324 IUMs. But now if you reduce the reward for a block you will have to do halving like bitcoin and is this provided for in the Neuralium network?
 

it is a very good opinion Daltonik, and very valid also. we could certainly go in that sense and it would work. but let's consider what motivates the choice to keep going with the current model:

The current inflation is actually not a lot. You are looking at the total and think it is high, but it is not. The inflation is dynamically calculated to remain stable and pegged to active miner count to a ratio of 10 tokens per day per miner.  so even if the inflation seems to be large, it is only because the number of active miners of IUM has been growing VERY quickly!  

so, we have a lot of tokens, but also a lot of users. But we have to consider that every real user brings a larger economy, with more activity, more hands to use these tokens, and the economy increases with every new user also. so, the token count goes up, but so does the size of the economy, proportionally.

at 10 tokens per day per miner, it's an average of 3650 tokens per year per miner. it really is not such a large amount. Thus, we really have to take the total "per capita", and never as a whole.

What IUM is doing has never occurred in the history of humanity. Never in history has a resource been:

1. impossible to corner by anyone, available to all at all times
2. inflation actively and proportionally pegged to the number of active miners at all times.

this has never been done before, we are making history here!  and the results will be the best, most stable and most accurate inflation ever; Laser precision!

so let's keep going and let the IUM ecosystem continue to grow, and you will see, the IUM economy will be the most stable of all, because the model is balanced now and forever.

the whitepaper will be updated in the coming weeks to explain the inflation model in greater detail. this will help explain it well. as soon as i have time to write it...  :)

hey everyone,

little update to inform you that the latest version 1.0.1.24 is finally released with multiple bug fixes.  The whitepaper has also been updated with a first draft of the inflation model.

 

1.0.1.24 release notes
--------------------

1. The Reset the wallet index operation now allows to clear the transaction and timeline history. Most of the time it is not required, but it can help remove transactions that may be added as duplicates by mistake. Simply check the "Clear Entire History" open in the wallet before resetting the index. As always, a wallet backup is recommended before performing the operation

2. The "attempt wallet rescue" operation has been removed since it will be rescued automatically from now on if any incomplete transaction is detected. A new version which will be more sophisticated will be added in a further version.

3. Breaking changes in the format of gossip messages has been implemented. these changes improve the ability of a node to optimize the flow of messages under high load, and will result in significant performance enhancements when high gossip load is underway. 1.0.1.24 will thus be incompatible with previous versions when propagating gossip messages.

4. In order to improve assurances of data integrity of the wallet during write to disk operations, this version adds 2 new options:
{"AppSettings": {
  "NeuraliumChainConfiguration": {
    "EnableTransactionFileVerification" : true,
    "EnableTransactionDataVerification" : true
  }
}}
Both options are disabled by default and can be enabled if desired.

a. EnableTransactionFileVerification = true|false : If enabled, all files written to disk during a wallet transaction will be re-read and verified for data integrity to the original file before being committed. It can slow the transaction speed and use more battery, but will offer much stronger assurances of data integrity.

b. EnableTransactionDataVerification = true|false : If enabled, all compressed and encrypted files will be verified for validity before being written to disk. It can slow the transaction speed and use more battery, but will offer much stronger assurances of data integrity.

Also note that these protections entail more data checks and may result in reduced battery performance.

5. Daily automatic backups have been added to the wallet for increased data integrity security. This behavior is enabled by default and will automatically make a new backup every day
that the wallet is running. Up to 5 backups will be kept in history at all times. These backups can later be used to perform advanced wallet rescue if any corruption ever happened. (rescue wallet will be implemented in a later version)

{"AppSettings": {
  "NeuraliumChainConfiguration": {
    "EnableAutomaticWalletSafetyBackups" : true
  }
}}

6. please take notice that although v24 has a lot of bug fixes, it did not receive all the attention that was required to be fully stable. the team was busy in security work during it's development cycle. 1.0.1.25 will probably be the version everyone is truly waiting for.

FileVerification nice :D :o :o

https://discord.com/channels/619305180235825162/680089781618737203/819984300765347881

@stoner19(Moderator) has created a private, independent and unnoficial but "friends of the project" community dedicated to OTC trading with the IUM. We the Neuralium team can never discuss money because as we all know so well by now, the IUM has no monetery value and never will, but there is still the need for safe OTC transfers between people. Stoner's new community aims to help bring people together for this purpose.

We the IUM dev team like to encourage good projects from the community so we give it a recommendation here. In the future, the Neuralium team will offer escrow services for on the blockchain gated OTC trades, this service will help us raise some operating funds for the project. but until then, we will observe and see how this public community will grow.

good luck to all and we will hang out there once in a while as observers.

https://discord.gg/ZvwjYM8cRd

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If you do not have time to mine it or you want to sell/buy IUM, you can go directly to that link above.
That is an unofficial discord server created by a moderator and the community, but do not worry so far everything is fine.
A few people already made their deal there so far.

Recently, I completely switched to the mobile version of mining and after updating to version 1.2.11, the number of peers is no longer displayed in the panel now there is always 0 but this does not interfere with the synchronization of the wallet and there are some coins for mining, the port test is successful.

Hello everyone,  it's been a while, here is an update:

so, today we just released a very important version update, 1.0.1.29.  This release is the first to implement the refactored server account behind appointments code.

With this version, server accounts need to pass an appointment to obtain the cryptographic keys that it requires to publish the account. we had to do this to stop some people from selling accounts on the blackmarkets. Once a server account is published, it does not need to do an appointment again, so it is a one time thing only. Other than that, the version has a lot of bug fixes and performance enhancements.


Now, the team is beginning work on the first mining pool. We expect that if things progress well, it should be live within a month, more or less.


other than that, mining is stable, things are going well, appointments are becoming very solid and we officially passed the 10K miner mark, woohoo!

lets keep going and see you there!

Today, the mobile wallet has been updated to version 1.3.0 the software version is now 1.0.1.29 and now I see the number of peers, I hope the mining will be stable further

hey everyone, here is a quick update:

There is a lot happening lately, perhaps too much to explain succinctly in this thread. I will try to sum it up, and you are welcome to come visit our official channels if you want more information.


1. Mining pool

The team has officially begun work on the first official mining pool. While the main code is already completed, we sidestepped the development a little bit so that we can complete the Bridge system explained bellow.

2. The Neuralium Multiverse

In the last few days, we established the basic design for a few new concepts that will be added in the next few weeks. This new idea is what we call the Neuralium multiverse. We will create the concept of "Portals", and these portals will be doors into other dimensions (other systems).  This means that any system in the world will be able to integrate with the Neuralium blockchain. It will be possible for users to send and receive tokens through these portals at will. We expect that in the future, the neuralium multiverse will expand to thousands of dimensions for the benefits of the users.

3. Transient accounts

We will be adding the concept of transient accounts, which will be accounts that will be able to send and receive tokens, but will not require to be published on the blockchain and will not have to go through an appointment. This system will open up the network to anybody who wants to use it without it's more advanced features.

4. Bridge

Finally and most importantly, we have begun work on our first service on the blockchain, to which we assigned the temporary codename "Bridge".  This system will be it's own mobile app and website and will allow users to send and receive tokens as well as perform OTC transfers.  Bridge will use the multiverse portals to operate on the neuralium blockchain as a side system. The advantages is that bridge will not require an appointment, a simple regular account created in a minute will do, and will provide instantaneous token send/receive, private transactions as well as escrow services on transfers.


we expect that the bridge system should be live within about a month, and the others will shortly follow thereafter.

so there we go, stay tuned for updates and come visit us!

I can't get an appointment in the mobile app v1. 3. 0 after requesting an appointment, I get an endlessly repeated message that " your appointment in the app has been reset. Please try again" I have to forcibly stop the operation of the Neuralium application. :(

that is weird. I know fred will be releasing a bugfix version this week, maybe it will help. you can also send us your logs in the official discord channel, it does help to see what is happening during the bug.

Thanks for the quick response I'll try to send the logs to the discord channel in the #debugging section as I understand it I sent the part that contains the error message there.

It is good that you are sharing your updates here in the forum other than in your discord channel.
But since you are not available in any exchange yet, how can other crypto users appreciate its value?
Also, for the miners of this coin, do you think they will be encouraged to continue mining if there is no plans yet of listing this coin?
What do you think is their motivation to mine this coin, other than looking forward to get this listed in the near future?

good question. The proper answer would be long and detailed, i will keep it brief here.

The new Bridge software i described above is going to be our first official service on the blockchain (we intend to release many more in the future).

The first version will offer OTC trades between users. For example, a user will be able to publish an offer/request, and define their own personal conditions to the trade. From this point, they are free to operate on their own, or they can select an escrow from the list of available ones in the system (anybody can become a validator). Then they can complete their trade with escrow verification.  this is the first version of the software that we will release in a few weeks.

In later versions, we will add token to token exchanges directly in the system, meaning that trades will be able to add tokens from other cryptos (i.e. btc, eth, etc.) and add them to the trade conditions to be exchanged automatically. this way, it will become a defacto exchange but operated by the users.

In the future, I envision that bridge will evolve into an entire crypto fund services suite that will offer a multitude of tools and position analysis to the crypto investors. I have BIG dreams for this service.

Bridge will enable users to reach others, and some token activity will begin. From there, eventually other exchanges will pickup on the activity and join the party. remember, it took many years for bitcoin to have exchanges, rome was not built in a day. everyday we are laying the bricks that will form the brick neuralium road system someday.  Until we get there, we are building the tools that will kickstart this economy.

So miners, keep mining, token outlets arriving soon.

I hope this answers your question  :)

OK, I seem to have made a mistake with the section in the discord channel now I sent the logs of the error that occurs when requesting an appointment, I left the logs in the #bugs section I hope this will help to understand why this is happening. Prior to this, the appointment for verification was held without problems

finally someone else is starting to make some reasonable question.
answer? simply this coin will never be listed.
this is a perfect scam coin, centralyzed, he can decide the amount of rewards (or saying that like he want: his "no profit company").
just say thanks if his project, full of bugs and not properly tested before the launch, is still alive after 4 months from launch.
where did you see until now a coin that broke people wallets with an update without having it tested?
where did you see until now a coin that work with a "appointment" system to renew the wallet every 30 days?
if someone want only to mine and for some reason is away from pc on the renew date, his mining will go to the hell, and he need to make an appointment again?
people also have a life, people also works. are we serious?

and this is dedicated to "NeuraliumJd": i'll keep my promise to stay here waiting until your coin will fall like it deserve, or at least considering the current situation and your "my coin does not need an exchange because this coin not have a value" concept.

sya

Hey everyone, here is a quick status update.


So, team is actively working on the new multiverse system. The code for the managed portals is now complete, and chaotic portals will come in the coming months this year. Meanwhile, bridge is also taking shape.

The shaping "vision" about bridge is that it will not be an exchange. legally, exchanges are complicated and not only we the dev team can not have anything to do with IUM and monetary value, but in canada, exchanges have to obtain a license with the relevant financial authority if they deal with money and securities; so its not an exchange.

rather, we are modeling it more like a "farmer's market".

Everybody can "offer/request" and determine their own terms, which the other party is free to accept or ignore as they wish.
everybody presents their "display", as they see fit, and users are free to "shop around" so to speak and decide who they want to deal with.
like a farmer's market, where every seller will establish a display, talk with prospective clients and conclude their business as they wish.
we the neuralium dev team will be like the market organizers, the ones responsible to offer tables, make it pretty and ensure that there are good musicians playing good music so that the ambiance is nice and pleasant. (if you see the analogy)
other than that, we will have nothing to do with any price or anything like that. it will be for the sellers to determine how they want to conduct their own private business with the clients they decide to deal with.

on your seller's table could be some IUM, some btc, some eth, or anything else that you see fit for that matter (as long as it is legal of course)
so there you go, i hope it helps explain the vision a bit
then later we can add all sorts of financial tools for the users to analyse their crypto positions and operations.
it can grow into a very powerful crypto tool.

So the first version will support OTC trades between users, and quickly we will add token to token transfers with other cryptos out there. We will definitely start with BTC next.

In any case, we expect the first test version to be out within 2 weeks. We are actively developing, taking a bit more time than expected, at the same time we are expanding the scope quite a bit.

will post updates soon.

hey everyone,

here comes another update:


so, if you will remember, during the last few months we had navigated between two very distinct economic models which are fixed block emission (possibly with halving) and a miner pegged inflation. Then we decided a few weeks ago to integrate both together for a time while we would release bridge, and then finally migrate back to the other at some time in the future.

well, since then we had a new idea. we decided to split both models into their own independent tokens. so,

the current neuralium crytpo token becomes the ium1 (or rather, the ium classic). for this token, we have set the token bounties to a fixed amount per block, and this will remain into perpetuity. We know this will make users happy as it encourages a more traditional crypto experience as we all know it so well.

Then, in a distant future and when the time is right, we will release another independent token which will be called ium2. On that token, we will use the miner pegged inflation to create an entirely new crypto experience.

When ium2 goes live sometimes in the future, both tokens will run in parallel and act on each other to support each other.


I think this idea is very cool and will open many new possibilities in the future. so on we go...

basically you will replace a fail coin number 1, with a fail coin number 2, to try again fooling users

This project has been a dismal failure.

And when you point out the FACTUAL shortcomings, the devs ban you from Discord...

Run away.  They have no idea what they are doing.

trolls sure like to come and cry to btctalk when they get called for their abuse; pitiful really. jimboscott you were given multiple chances in both discord and telegram and you just kept on trolling actively. if you dont like the project it is your right, but then move on, we dont have to tolerate the same baseless accusations over and over. really, move on.


So, meanwhile a bit of news, the dev team is still going strong, taking a bit of a much deserved break for the summer, as we expect this autumn to be very intense, but many more changes to come.

Due to the outlook of the FATF rules that are coming into crypto, we decided to cancel the bridge project, as it could have complicated legally in the coming future. Instead, we are readjusting the aim towards exchanges, so we are working on that angle in summer. stay tuned for more news once the sunny season is over and real life kicks back in.

see you in a while

Congrats to JD and the team, will bump up the thread as after all of the time the project is finally listed on https://www.exbitron.com/trading/iumusdt exchange.

Early investors are welcome  ;)

Hey everyone, it's been a while!  Neuralium is still very active even if life is gripping at us full strength, but we keep going!

So yes, Exbitron has listed IUM, it is now official and LIVE.  I strongly suggest you give it a check. Go Exbitron!  ;D


on the project side, we are going to begin a strong push to grow the team in the next few weeks, its time to get serious, IUM can change the world.

see you again soon.

is this scam project still up? browsing my old topics and found this again

Ended up being centralized garbage, dude woke up 1 day and shut down the whole blockchain.