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Title: Is this even normal?
Post by: Phoenix_PROG on December 13, 2020, 07:37:35 AM
Guys is any of these normal?

1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet

This is what base protocol team did to their promoters, all those that participate in signature campaign aren't rewarded any stakes and they can't even look at spreadsheet, bounty group is closed too so anyone can't complain and yet the team said they will make distribution in the next 42 hours


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: rat03gopoh on December 13, 2020, 07:53:06 AM
Not normal, telegram groups related to bounties only deserve to be closed without problems if the bounty participants have received their rewards. If the group closes before all is in order, it can be said to be an attempt to avoid payment. The only thing you can hold on to is the bounty manager's last appointment in the group. If they deny it, then it's very likely they don't want to pay.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Inkdull on December 13, 2020, 07:58:28 AM
Guys is any of these normal?

1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet

This is what base protocol team did to their promoters, all those that participate in signature campaign aren't rewarded any stakes and they can't even look at spreadsheet, bounty group is closed too so anyone can't complain and yet the team said they will make distribution in the next 42 hours

I have seen the spreadsheet before it was getting closed by the team and all of campaigns are not being updated and BTW the team who has been running the base protocol is very well known as a scammers in the past who have created the scam project called spective. This project has a very big chance to avoid to pay the hunters.
They just wanna get free promotion from you guys. None signature participants have received their reward. This probably as the next scam bounty.
I'm not trying to defend the team but that spective project was a artificial intelligence project and we all know that A.I projects don't always become successful, I heard that the team distribute funds back to their investors of spective project, they came back with base protocol and it became successful due to the project use case, but blocking bounty hunters off will ruin their reputation


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: royalfestus on December 13, 2020, 08:03:46 AM
Guys is any of these normal?

1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet

This is what base protocol team did to their promoters, all those that participate in signature campaign aren't rewarded any stakes and they can't even look at spreadsheet, bounty group is closed too so anyone can't complain and yet the team said they will make distribution in the next 42 hours

I have seen the spreadsheet before it was getting closed by the team and all of campaigns are not being updated and BTW the team who has been running the base protocol is very well known as a scammers in the past who have created the scam project called spective. This project has a very big chance to avoid to pay the hunters.
They just wanna get free promotion from you guys. None signature participants have received their reward. This probably as the next scam bounty.
I wont be defending the project because i also participated in the campaign. The manager in charge of the campaign is not a regular bounty manager, so he doesn't know much about the activities involved. Sadly most cant access them via telegram but I did and noticed he barely come online, he post those messages few minutes I chatted with him, I left a message for him on the necessity of making the spreadsheet public before distribution. Lets hope for the best in the 48 hrs he promised.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: someone703 on December 13, 2020, 08:20:26 AM
I wont be defending the project because i also participated in the campaign. The manager in charge of the campaign is not a regular bounty manager, so he doesn't know much about the activities involved. Sadly most cant access them via telegram but I did and noticed he barely come online, he post those messages few minutes I chatted with him, I left a message for him on the necessity of making the spreadsheet public before distribution. Lets hope for the best in the 48 hrs he promised.
I have followed up on this project, but i did not participate in it because i found that they are not too interested in bounty, moreover i also found that the bounty group was also chat locked and BM changed the bounty for the hunter bonuses and it will probably be simpler if they still do what they say. But also be sympathetic to the project, as the project is currently handling a lot of work so the hunters should stay calm and not be too stressed.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Apostlekin$$$ on December 13, 2020, 08:30:03 AM
Guys is any of these normal?

1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet

This is what base protocol team did to their promoters, all those that participate in signature campaign aren't rewarded any stakes and they can't even look at spreadsheet, bounty group is closed too so anyone can't complain and yet the team said they will make distribution in the next 42 hours
I think these two points are very abnormal because they both concern work rations and payments to all participants who have promoted their project for a certain duration, so it doesn't make sense for them to close the bounty group and block access to the spreadsheet, this is a very real scam once.
Not updating spreadsheet is a different thing, not opening telegram group for bounty hunters to make complains is another, they aren't same thing mate, some bounty hunters may lose stakes due to this, the team in charge of rewarding stakes might do mistakes some times and if group is closed how will the hunters affected make complains?


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: inanilujimi on December 13, 2020, 08:53:14 AM
Looks suspicious, how can they make a distribution if the bet is not necessarily correct, there should be a grace period to publish the spreadsheet and participants can see if their bets are correct, if it's still messy is it fair to bounty participants? I think this is an indication of disrespect for the bounty hunter who have promoted their project.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: FrozenBit on December 13, 2020, 08:54:37 AM
Not updating spreadsheet is a different thing, not opening telegram group for bounty hunters to make complains is another, they aren't same thing mate, some bounty hunters may lose stakes due to this, the team in charge of rewarding stakes might do mistakes some times and if group is closed how will the hunters affected make complains?
I think this is really a problem, if the project does not work with transparency in this then things are very difficult to deal with, because of complaints to solve problems that hunters may have, for example: reporting someone impersonating, stakes mistake... but since they have not given a spreadsheet, everyone should wait, according to OP's share 'team said they will make distribution in the next 42 hours'.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: KaratX on December 13, 2020, 09:00:06 AM
Base protocol team should try as much as possible to come out clean this time around because many already thought they are scammers, their first project called spective failed and yet they comeback with base protocol only to start acting abnormally? They will get their reputations toasted fast if care isn't taken.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: cabron on December 13, 2020, 09:00:13 AM

I have tired checking their website and it seem to me like they didnt explain everything there. There isn't anything there that prove they are serious with their project actually. Anyone should have figured the project is a possible scam. But lets wait the 24 hours they are saying to be sure, if they send out an announcement again to make delays, this will be a series of delays which is a sign of scam.



Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: tabas on December 13, 2020, 09:02:35 AM
That is already a sign that they dont care about their bounty nor their bounty participants.
No updates, no notifications, no notes or clue. Dont expect anything from them if those simple task, they cant do.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Greatdev on December 13, 2020, 09:20:50 AM
I noticed that the team are too lazy to update spreadsheet themselves and many warned them to hire a bounty manager to get the job done for them but they refused, that's when I started having my suspicious about the project, it won't cost much to hire a pro bounty manager but instead they decide to manage the project themselves


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: WalkerIVIV on December 13, 2020, 09:29:28 AM
I noticed that the team are too lazy to update spreadsheet themselves and many warned them to hire a bounty manager to get the job done for them but they refused, that's when I started having my suspicious about the project, it won't cost much to hire a pro bounty manager but instead they decide to manage the project themselves
They have raised million dollars of money and that's only a few pennies for these greedy developers to hire the bounty manager to complete all of the task.
There were so many scam bounties started from the locking the spreadsheet and bounty group. When hunters were asking into the main group and these hunters will be banned then they will never get their payment from complete all of the tasks in the campaign.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: CashbackLover on December 13, 2020, 09:32:05 AM
Those are bad signs that we've seen in so many scam projects before, blocking all participants in bounty group shows that they team are avoiding to answer some queries, blocking access to spreadsheet shows they aren't ready to fulfill their own promise to their promoters, this is wrong


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: memed97 on December 13, 2020, 09:37:46 AM
Not updating spreadsheet is a different thing, not opening telegram group for bounty hunters to make complains is another, they aren't same thing mate, some bounty hunters may lose stakes due to this, the team in charge of rewarding stakes might do mistakes some times and if group is closed how will the hunters affected make complains?
It seems you don't understand what the OP is saying here, but it doesn't matter, because I will make it straight, in general every bounty campaign has a channel on telegram and a telegram group created by the manager, and if the group is locked or shut down, then directly the Participants cannot ask anything about the bounty, this I think is very unnatural because it does not respect the work of the bounty participants, and one more thing when the spreadsheet is locked before all participants' bets are updated, it is a very ridiculous mistake in my opinion.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Bitbtc8 on December 13, 2020, 09:39:51 AM
This is not so normal, I think this project will end up not paying any bounty hunters, let's wait till 48hours and see what happens, it's very rare in this type of cases for such team to keep their promise, hiding spreadsheet and blocking bounty group them distribution isn't over is 👎👎👎👎, the foot print the team left with their first project is why I don't bother to promote base protocol, they claimed they refund their investors but not completely


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: nomenclatur on December 13, 2020, 09:43:05 AM
it is very abnormal base protocol is only a group of scammers who want to get free promotions from the bounty hunters as well as from the 2018 ICO project, which is currently dead, their projects are dead, many investors have left their spective project, they have also collected ico funds of around 1000 ethereum and they made a new ico base protocol that makes me not interested in joining this bounty.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Anonylz on December 13, 2020, 09:50:28 AM
Guys is any of these normal?

1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet

This is what base protocol team did to their promoters, all those that participate in signature campaign aren't rewarded any stakes and they can't even look at spreadsheet, bounty group is closed too so anyone can't complain and yet the team said they will make distribution in the next 42 hours

It is somewhat normal to close bounty group if they feel it will generate lots of attention and rift among bounty participants but not very cool to also lock the spreadsheet denying participants access to review their stakes and reward to acknowledge everything is as expected,

I saw some members already pointed it out on the bounty thread so am hoping the admin will reconsider and open the spreadsheet for review and also open the bounty group for complaint of missing stakes which I know will occur.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Bitstar_coin on December 13, 2020, 10:08:18 AM
This is not so normal, I think this project will end up not paying any bounty hunters, let's wait till 48hours and see what happens, it's very rare in this type of cases for such team to keep their promise, hiding spreadsheet and blocking bounty group them distribution isn't over is 👎👎👎👎, the foot print the team left with their first project is why I don't bother to promote base protocol, they claimed they refund their investors but not completely

I have the feeling they are going to pay because they wouldn't want the accusation made about them being untrusted to be true, their account already have a red trust which is not a good thing,

What I think they want to do with this behaviour is to short pay participants, if you look at their post on Telegram bounty chat, the first post says bounty pool is "37030.31365 BASE, split across the different campaigns"  while the second and recent Post says "There were a total of 30703 BASE allocated for the bounty" what happens to the remaining 6,327 base  :o,
My guess is they will manipulate the payment and try to avoid any confrontation which is why they put the bounty group on restriction.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: rahmatullah9305 on December 13, 2020, 10:17:37 AM
Those are bad signs that we've seen in so many scam projects before, blocking all participants in bounty group shows that they team are avoiding to answer some queries, blocking access to spreadsheet shows they aren't ready to fulfill their own promise to their promoters, this is wrong
Yes, it was a very fatal mistake for the project team, because their intentions were not good, because when the two things were blocked on purpose by them, it was very clear that they intended to deceive the bounty participants.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: thesmallgod on December 13, 2020, 10:19:12 AM
This is what happen when you join project without trying reading people reviews and making findings https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5283589.msg55455387#msg55455387 The project is known to be carried out by a team of individuals that are known to have failed in earlier project being created. This idea is not good and I believe hunters have huge role to also play in reducing bad project by not promoting campaign that will put investors at risk just like the participants of FROTAC: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5295039.0 after it has been confirmed that it is a clear scam: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5295510.msg55728686#msg55728686. When things like this happen in bounty campaign, it is either the spreadsheet might get updated with hunters getting cheated or the project get abandoned. Subaj: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4536935.0 did this in 2018 and up to date, nobody have access to the spreadsheet not to talk about token being distributed


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: pealr12 on December 13, 2020, 10:28:21 AM
This is not so normal, I think this project will end up not paying any bounty hunters, let's wait till 48hours and see what happens, it's very rare in this type of cases for such team to keep their promise, hiding spreadsheet and blocking bounty group them distribution isn't over is 👎👎👎👎, the foot print the team left with their first project is why I don't bother to promote base protocol, they claimed they refund their investors but not completely

I have the feeling they are going to pay because they wouldn't want the accusation made about them being untrusted to be true, their account already have a red trust which is not a good thing,

What I think they want to do with this behaviour is to short pay participants, if you look at their post on Telegram bounty chat, the first post says bounty pool is "37030.31365 BASE, split across the different campaigns"  while the second and recent Post says "There were a total of 30703 BASE allocated for the bounty" what happens to the remaining 6,327 base  :o,
My guess is they will manipulate the payment and try to avoid any confrontation which is why they put the bounty group on restriction.

Indeed you have raised a valid point and I just checked the telegram bounty chat and i see the 2 post with different bounty pool amount, maybe there is a better explanation to the reduction of bounty allocation in the second post,
I was going to join the bounty but the lack of spreadsheet update discourages me, I believe hunters will get their reward only there will be some irregularities.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: bayudndy on December 13, 2020, 10:33:08 AM
It seems like there is going to be some tension here, i see Base Protocol is still running their project normally, i don't think there will be another scam project in this space, because actually this year has been very tough for many people and bounty is really their job. It was 48 hours to make it clear, though not taking part in that campaign but hoped that the hunters would receive money for their work soon.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: MCobian on December 13, 2020, 10:43:55 AM
Based on my experience during several bounty campaigns, the bounty group in telegram will remain active until
the rewards are successfully distributed. If the bounty group is closed before the rewards are distributed this is
clearly not normal. Regarding the spreadsheet that is blocked from access, it is normal to happen after the bounty ends,
now according to what the project team said they will do distribution in the next 42 hours. So just wait a moment,
if rewards have not been received within 42 hours there is a possibility that the project scams.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: FaucetKING on December 13, 2020, 11:16:38 AM
I saw their bounty and it was one of the promising ones around here on Bitcoin Talk. I think that they got what they wanted which is the tokens value. Now they are throwing the bounty program away to be able to gather more investors. They seem fishy for me and i extremely hate these moves because they aren't going anywhere without the community support. Their protocol and their platform might be functional and you might never have any issues with them but i'm talking about their moves which looks exactly like scammers.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: IkonaDro4ku on December 13, 2020, 11:52:32 AM
I thought this project would not be successful, their developers performed poorly in the past but judging by the trading on the stock exchange, everything goes well for them, however such actions will clearly lead to the worst. Apparently the fears about this project were correct...


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: kaya11 on December 13, 2020, 12:34:56 PM
Guys is any of these normal?

1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet

This is what base protocol team did to their promoters, all those that participate in signature campaign aren't rewarded any stakes and they can't even look at spreadsheet, bounty group is closed too so anyone can't complain and yet the team said they will make distribution in the next 42 hours

This is what am I talking about if the payments are not escrowed in or the manager of the bounty campaign isn't trusted at all. Especially when you have been working for months and yet nothing comes to fruition. Sad ending for the participants, all hunters should put in their mind that if they are somehow see red flags on the campaign they should've dig well, or if the manager is good he is the one who do the job.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Paycoinzzz on December 13, 2020, 01:00:40 PM
Guys is any of these normal?

1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet

This is what base protocol team did to their promoters, all those that participate in signature campaign aren't rewarded any stakes and they can't even look at spreadsheet, bounty group is closed too so anyone can't complain and yet the team said they will make distribution in the next 42 hours
Actually, this is the intention of the team bounty manager and if you get too little compared to the actual reward, you can sue them.

The only way we can reclaim equity is by directing DM to the project's CMO to address this problem.  Maybe they'll work again with the bounty manager team. ;)


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Mighty_crypt on December 13, 2020, 02:29:09 PM
Guys is any of these normal?

1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet

This is what base protocol team did to their promoters, all those that participate in signature campaign aren't rewarded any stakes and they can't even look at spreadsheet, bounty group is closed too so anyone can't complain and yet the team said they will make distribution in the next 42 hours
Actually, this is the intention of the team bounty manager and if you get too little compared to the actual reward, you can sue them.

The only way we can reclaim equity is by directing DM to the project's CMO to address this problem.  Maybe they'll work again with the bounty manager team. ;)
The bounty manager is part of the project team, he is not a standalone bounty manager like bubbalex and wapinter, whatever his decisions are I'm sure the CEO is very much aware of it, but still I've done my own part by sending PM to the CEO just to make sure he is aware about how they plan to ruin their reputation


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Mulann2 on December 13, 2020, 03:44:05 PM
Not normal for them to lock up spreadsheet and Telegram bounty chat, although it is not enough to jump into conclusion, the participants can still the team the benefit of doubt, wait for the time they give to make payment before tagging them.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Iceblast on December 13, 2020, 03:48:30 PM
there are 2 possibilities.
First of all, this could be the team's best move to protect the privacy of the members and spreadsheets from fraud or for the common good.
second possibility, this could be a scam and sometimes this is a trick of the team

but it's better to wait according to the promise they tell you, because that determines whether in the first or second possibility


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Mpamaegbu on December 13, 2020, 04:05:38 PM
...bounty group is closed too so anyone can't complain and yet the team said they will make distribution in the next 42 hours
Well, though their actions seem suggestive of an exit, I think 42hrs (perhaps they meant 48hrs) wait won't make anyone lose their patience. Just give them the benefit of the doubt before drawing conclusions. I read up here that the group who promoted this bounty also ran another that was shady. Hunters should be weary of any BM who runs bounties that turn to scam. Avoid them like plagues. It's better staying out of bounties than indulging one and not get the reward one laboured for. It's so disheartening but many BMs don't give a hoot about what hunters feel.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: reza7777 on December 13, 2020, 04:13:37 PM
How long has he closed telegram group? Usually other managers do this for 1 to 2 days too, and they can't access the spreadsheet because the manager is still calculating the total stake, you should wait 42 hours. if there is nothing after that then you should learn to forget about the project


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: cassavachips on December 13, 2020, 04:17:30 PM
This of course must have the right reasons. When they announce the campaign has finished and also give notification in the group that they will distribute on the date they say and they have to close the chat in the group so as not to spam and so that everyone can read the pinned message, I think that's quite reasonable.

But if they don't announce when the distribution will be and suddenly the spreadsheet closes, I think that's suspicious. That is a bad act. Group bounties must remain open and accommodate bounty hunter complaints if they do not give a clear announcement. A good bounty manager will do everything transparently.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: OasisDre on December 13, 2020, 07:04:30 PM
Let's not jump into conclusion right now, the bounty ends on the 9th of December and it's been four days already, the team said they wi pay in the next 48hrs, I hope they keep their words if not I'm sure there will be more red flags waiting for the team through scam accusation thread


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: krisnajsadrak on December 13, 2020, 08:33:27 PM
Guys is any of these normal?

1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet

This is what base protocol team did to their promoters, all those that participate in signature campaign aren't rewarded any stakes and they can't even look at spreadsheet, bounty group is closed too so anyone can't complain and yet the team said they will make distribution in the next 42 hours

why they must close down the bounty group after bounty ends, this is not normal
but, if they promise they will make distribution in the next 42 hours, just wait because 42 hours is less than 2 days right ?
by the way if they don't make any distributions after 42 hours, with any reason, seems they try to cheat the bounty hunters


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Sled on December 13, 2020, 08:41:05 PM
Not really good to see and a sort of indication that the project has been literally declared as a failure. May others think it was normal but for me, it was a normal scenario in these times where the majority of the projects gave been doing the same after accumulating the money from their investors. A big shame for these developers, they are ruining such a reputation.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: InwardContour on December 13, 2020, 09:18:25 PM
Guys is any of these normal?

1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet

This is what base protocol team did to their promoters, all those that participate in signature campaign aren't rewarded any stakes and they can't even look at spreadsheet, bounty group is closed too so anyone can't complain and yet the team said they will make distribution in the next 42 hours

I think you should give them some time before making any conclusions, if not distributed, then you can tag the campaign scam. We've seen similar issues in the past whereby after doing a campaign, and the project is successful, team denies to distribute tokens or apply harsh rules so people miss out. I remember when for a project we did up to three different KYCs just to get about 5% of promised tokens. Also sometimes we get nothing like PAYACCEPT Bounty scam, but it's good not to assume they won't distribute since they said it will be done in 42 hours.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: militiariko on December 13, 2020, 09:48:11 PM
Guys is any of these normal?

1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet

This is what base protocol team did to their promoters, all those that participate in signature campaign aren't rewarded any stakes and they can't even look at spreadsheet, bounty group is closed too so anyone can't complain and yet the team said they will make distribution in the next 42 hours

It is not normal and it is wrong for a bounty manager to treat bounty hunters in such a manner; no matter the circumstances surrounding the bounty, hunter or participants of the bounty program deserves an explanation for whatever events is happening. You need to question the bounty manager and find out whats wrong.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: harapan on December 13, 2020, 10:02:15 PM
The campaign ends on December 9th so it's only natural that you still can't access the spreadsheet, don't panic, buddy, give them time to calculate it all. it seems like this is your first experience with manager like this


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on December 13, 2020, 11:06:52 PM
This is absolutely not normal, probably they are trying to avoid paying the bounty participants, I think it will be very great if bitcointalk team can come up with a strategy to cub all this scam bounties that have been going on around the platform, if a body can be set up to monitor and regulate every listed bounty here to reduce scam, it did be a great step forward.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Ridwan Fauzi on December 13, 2020, 11:23:43 PM
They should be open in calculating the stake and especially the distribution of tokens. Each bounty hunter must know how much stake he gets and what percentage of tokens are allocated to each program (such as twitter, siganture campaign and Facebook) unless they provide definite rewards in the general rules of the program so that each bounty hunter can count each one so that when he gets an inappropriate reward he can complain it.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: TimeTeller on December 13, 2020, 11:28:30 PM
This is absolutely not normal, probably they are trying to avoid paying the bounty participants, I think it will be very great if bitcointalk team can come up with a strategy to cub all this scam bounties that have been going on around the platform, if a body can be set up to monitor and regulate every listed bounty here to reduce scam, it did be a great step forward.

And that kind of situation is normal for scam projects.
Users here are already doing their best to warn others for potential scam projects via the Scam Accusations board.
There are several users that are really keen in exposing the potential source of failure of the project like having plagiarized wp or having fake team members.
So if you are a responsible investor, and you don't have time to assess the project, you can visit that board = https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0 to check projects with existing issues.
But as much as possible, if you want to invest, you need to do your own research and evaluation. No one can do that for you.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: TastyChillySauce00 on December 14, 2020, 07:18:40 AM
The campaign ends on December 9th so it's only natural that you still can't access the spreadsheet, don't panic, buddy, give them time to calculate it all. it seems like this is your first experience with manager like this
Do you watch the announcement that already made on its telegram group? The BM didn't even try to reveal the spreadsheet and the hunters didn't know how much they have got from there and it can be easily manipulated by the bounty managers. The base participants feel worried about this.
You know nothing about this based on what you are saying.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: PerfectCircle on December 14, 2020, 07:25:13 AM
This is not so normal, I think this project will end up not paying any bounty hunters, let's wait till 48hours and see what happens, it's very rare in this type of cases for such team to keep their promise, hiding spreadsheet and blocking bounty group them distribution isn't over is 👎👎👎👎, the foot print the team left with their first project is why I don't bother to promote base protocol, they claimed they refund their investors but not completely

I have the feeling they are going to pay because they wouldn't want the accusation made about them being untrusted to be true, their account already have a red trust which is not a good thing,

What I think they want to do with this behaviour is to short pay participants, if you look at their post on Telegram bounty chat, the first post says bounty pool is "37030.31365 BASE, split across the different campaigns"  while the second and recent Post says "There were a total of 30703 BASE allocated for the bounty" what happens to the remaining 6,327 base  :o,
My guess is they will manipulate the payment and try to avoid any confrontation which is why they put the bounty group on restriction.
You are very good at observing, I thought I was the only one that saw that, the first promised pool allocation was 37030 and later changed to 30703, I knew they are trying so hard to avoid paying full payment, also the translation campaign was tampered with because it's locked, they've gives stakes to all participants and rewards the tokens but later they removed few participants and readjust tokens


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Wingsbtc on December 14, 2020, 07:38:38 AM
Relax everyone, the payment announcement have been made public on the bounty thread itself, it shows that they tend to pay every bounty hunters that participated in the campaign, give them time and wait for your tokens before making scam accusation comments, they won't dare ruin their reputation because they already have a stain from their first project that was closed down.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Shasha80 on December 14, 2020, 07:55:21 AM
Of course it is not normal to close the bounty group suddenly, how to communicate with the project admin if the bounty group is closed.
Even though the rewards have not been distributed to participants, this is very likely the project is a scam. Regarding the spreadsheet
blocked by admin, this is still normal, because usually the bounty manager is calculating the number of stakes that bounty hunters get.
Now just wait for the next 42 hours. As promised, if the rewards have not been distributed as well and there is no more news from the
projects team. This means that the project is 100% a scam.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Lhaine on December 14, 2020, 08:04:33 AM
Guys is any of these normal?

1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet

This is what base protocol team did to their promoters, all those that participate in signature campaign aren't rewarded any stakes and they can't even look at spreadsheet, bounty group is closed too so anyone can't complain and yet the team said they will make distribution in the next 42 hours

If this things happen to you're campaign then you obviously join in scam bounty and that project is full of scam. They only use advertiser to get money with the help of everybody's promotion and there is no plan to give it back the rewards to it's community. One solution you can do for now it's eighter open scam Accusations so project owner see and fix it or else give them negative feedback.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Gunday_07 on December 14, 2020, 08:21:17 AM
The campaign ends on December 9th so it's only natural that you still can't access the spreadsheet, don't panic, buddy, give them time to calculate it all. it seems like this is your first experience with manager like this
Dylan isn't a bounty manager but part of base protocol team, this guy have zero managing experience, probably too lazy to update spreadsheet because of project development, that's acceptable but many told him to hire a bounty manager, he refused all proposals, I think the team have trust issues too


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: culuuton on December 14, 2020, 08:33:59 AM
The campaign ends on December 9th so it's only natural that you still can't access the spreadsheet, don't panic, buddy, give them time to calculate it all. it seems like this is your first experience with manager like this
Dylan isn't a bounty manager but part of base protocol team, this guy have zero managing experience, probably too lazy to update spreadsheet because of project development, that's acceptable but many told him to hire a bounty manager, he refused all proposals, I think the team have trust issues too
They closed the bounty group and people can't respond which is very unusual, this is definitely the act of scammers. I think there's no need to calm down because they don't want to pay the bounty hunter.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: WalkerIVIV on December 14, 2020, 08:48:10 AM


I have the feeling they are going to pay because they wouldn't want the accusation made about them being untrusted to be true, their account already have a red trust which is not a good thing,

What I think they want to do with this behaviour is to short pay participants, if you look at their post on Telegram bounty chat, the first post says bounty pool is "37030.31365 BASE, split across the different campaigns"  while the second and recent Post says "There were a total of 30703 BASE allocated for the bounty" what happens to the remaining 6,327 base  :o,
My guess is they will manipulate the payment and try to avoid any confrontation which is why they put the bounty group on restriction.
You are very good at observing, I thought I was the only one that saw that, the first promised pool allocation was 37030 and later changed to 30703, I knew they are trying so hard to avoid paying full payment, also the translation campaign was tampered with because it's locked, they've gives stakes to all participants and rewards the tokens but later they removed few participants and readjust tokens
It looks like the manager was typo about that and you can see all of the numbers are the same with the old total token but he was typing 0 too fast and that makes the total calculation was getting changed.
It's a human eror dude but the problem is whether the team wanna try to distribute the reward or not.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: MUG1WARA on December 14, 2020, 08:55:46 AM
the manager who manages the project has redtrust (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2848920), which means he has made a bad mistake, but you still believe in joining the project he manages, this is a risk that you have to bear and don't complain


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: takngantuk on December 14, 2020, 08:58:49 AM
Guys is any of these normal?

1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet

This is what base protocol team did to their promoters, all those that participate in signature campaign aren't rewarded any stakes and they can't even look at spreadsheet, bounty group is closed too so anyone can't complain and yet the team said they will make distribution in the next 42 hours

it's not normal, obviously it's a fraud. everything that BM did was very detrimental to the bounty hunter. they can't go around doing all that. The spreadsheet is locked without any certainty about how it will be accepted by all participants.

This is why I don't really like to follow bounties that are rated by Mamber rank or below. they can do anything they want, and they don't care if they get redtrust.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: YOSHIE on December 14, 2020, 09:01:55 AM
1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet
How many people have the same fate as you.

Could you please point out their project link and the manager who manages the project.

Show here what you are complaining about, I need proof of this accusation displayed here and I will warn them by flagging it.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: goddess116 on December 14, 2020, 09:24:16 AM
I don't call it normal,i name it scam. Close down bounty group means they don't want anybody to speak, blocked access to the spreadsheet means they probably don't want to pay the reward to the bounty hunter, what a ironic project.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Bitstar_coin on December 14, 2020, 09:48:10 AM
the manager who manages the project has redtrust (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2848920), which means he has made a bad mistake, but you still believe in joining the project he manages, this is a risk that you have to bear and don't complain

Having a red trust don't necessary means the bounty will not pay, they are separate things, i have join and equally seen campaigns promoted by red trust members and all participants receive their reward,
the payment process is in the hand of the team now, since they have given 42 hours for participants to receive payment they should be giving the benefit of doubt, i just want to correct you on that part.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: sayaya17 on December 14, 2020, 10:13:06 AM
This group is a scammer who came back after committing fraud in 2017. They also in that year did not pay participants, many participants complained and asked for payment. They also locked down a bounty thread, and the manager did not give a rational response. Their faces are the same as the team that’s now on project Base Protocol. Maybe they’ve also committed a lot of fraud that we don’t know about other than the base protocol project and ICO spectiv.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Anonylz on December 15, 2020, 07:29:31 AM
This is not so normal, I think this project will end up not paying any bounty hunters, let's wait till 48hours and see what happens, it's very rare in this type of cases for such team to keep their promise, hiding spreadsheet and blocking bounty group them distribution isn't over is 👎👎👎👎, the foot print the team left with their first project is why I don't bother to promote base protocol, they claimed they refund their investors but not completely

I have the feeling they are going to pay because they wouldn't want the accusation made about them being untrusted to be true, their account already have a red trust which is not a good thing,

What I think they want to do with this behaviour is to short pay participants, if you look at their post on Telegram bounty chat, the first post says bounty pool is "37030.31365 BASE, split across the different campaigns"  while the second and recent Post says "There were a total of 30703 BASE allocated for the bounty" what happens to the remaining 6,327 base  :o,
My guess is they will manipulate the payment and try to avoid any confrontation which is why they put the bounty group on restriction.

I guess you were right after all, now it has been confirmed from this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5284450.msg55831367#msg55831367) that the bounty was paid but team cleverly shot paid hunters, the reason why both the spreadsheet and telegram bounty group was locked and restrict access for any confrontation, and the reason why they have 2 different bounty pool amount, it was a deliberate attempt,
they were accused of fraudulent behavior of their past project where they failed to refund to investors, well it appears a leopard will never leave it spots.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: jeniferqueen0409 on December 15, 2020, 07:55:09 AM
Guys is any of these normal?

1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet

This is what base protocol team did to their promoters, all those that participate in signature campaign aren't rewarded any stakes and they can't even look at spreadsheet, bounty group is closed too so anyone can't complain and yet the team said they will make distribution in the next 42 hours
If the campaign ends the administrator must notify the bounty hunters and close the spreadsheet must reopen after a few days. In this situation, I found the scammer very high.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: adzino on December 15, 2020, 08:20:37 AM
Yeah that is completely normal. This is how those bounty programs scam their participants. So this isn't a new thing. I have seen numerous thread and people complaining how those project managers completely stops communicating with their users at the end of the program. Only few gets paid while the rest are told they broke rules and everything.
So high chance you are going to get scammed by them. Since they said they will make the distribution after 42 hours, wait and see. If they don't, I doubt you can do anything.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: riso2015 on December 15, 2020, 08:34:27 AM
Guys is any of these normal?

1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet

This is what base protocol team did to their promoters, all those that participate in signature campaign aren't rewarded any stakes and they can't even look at spreadsheet, bounty group is closed too so anyone can't complain and yet the team said they will make distribution in the next 42 hours
It should not have happened, the participants have right to know how many results they get, and have right to access the Bounty group to talk about Bounty. If they do as you say, then I think it's not normal, I think it will be a scam project.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Untomabur on December 15, 2020, 09:09:21 AM
As a bounty manager they should open a spreadsheet and be transparent,
if you look at the project, the Base Protocol is indeed an interesting and good project,
but their team has had a scam, and the fact that their account has negative trust,
of course you should rethink joining the bounty Base.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: iTradeChips on December 15, 2020, 09:34:49 AM
Well, basing on my experience that is not really normal. Sure, many of these so called bounty managers tried to do legal crap to ensure not everybody will be able to access the spreadsheet and possibly not paid but that is not the norm. Many bounty managers are also responsible managers also and was able to pull off some good bounty hunts and everybody got paid. Sadly, it is not just bounty managers but also the project or company itself that gives the problem. And when they do it the poor bounty hunters cannot do anything.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Dollar_Hunter on December 15, 2020, 10:06:25 AM
normal or abnormal is something that is quite complicated,
indeed the bounty base protocol is still not transparent, but there is still hope for them to open a spreadsheet,
especially since they have also shared their rewards, just look at their tread bounties,
some have received bounty rewards, that's a positive think.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: MUG1WARA on December 15, 2020, 10:31:18 AM
Having a red trust don't necessary means the bounty will not pay, they are separate things, i have join and equally seen campaigns promoted by red trust members and all participants receive their reward,
the payment process is in the hand of the team now, since they have given 42 hours for participants to receive payment they should be giving the benefit of doubt, i just want to correct you on that part.
yes it's not all but look at the redtrust that BM accepts, don't you read there? base protocol is a team that has previously carried out a scam and has brought investors' money and there is already evidence on the link that I have provided, if only red trust with the information is not that worrying then it doesn't matter


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: jademaxxiss012 on December 15, 2020, 10:32:24 AM
It will all depend on how bounty manager wanted to happen especially if it has been already disclose and announce on the things that he has done. Anyway, the best thing to do as a bounty hunter is to ask the bounty manager or admin regarding to it. Write a demand request for them to providr what you are looking for. Anyway, most bounty projects are scam so expect that the project you are promoting is also a scam.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: gurunanakji777 on December 15, 2020, 01:55:47 PM
This is not the right behavior of the admin something is fishy. If the bounty group closed by the admin its not professional behavior by an admin who is managing the campaign at least he should listen to the hunters issue through the bounty group. Even I am also a participant of the Base Protocol and my stakes were updated when I saw the spreadsheet last time but now it's locked. I hope you will also get your stakes till then we can only wait before coming to any conclusion.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Cornia on December 15, 2020, 02:23:22 PM
Guys is any of these normal?
1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends
2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet
None of the above two are normal.  Admin can only lock the spreedsheet for sometimes for updating purpose. I know that the manager of base protocol campaign received negative trust because this campaign was more likely to be a scam. Bounty Hunters should avoid negatively trusted managers so that such topics are not created later.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: hannahB4 on December 15, 2020, 02:53:56 PM
I know well about this project the manager made the announcement more than 4 days ago which is way above 48 hours given. They just want use bounty hunters and pay some people while leaving some out just like the emporium campaign that was stopped halfway last week don't know where all these will take them to.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Ghondronk on December 15, 2020, 05:53:29 PM
If the bounty managers behave in that manner we can say that either the project has become a failure or if not, this is a scam. They not only harm their own image as bounty/project managers, but also damage the faith on bounties kept by the bounty hunters. Such incidents will take bounty hunters farther away from bounties.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Sirait on December 15, 2020, 06:37:41 PM
^ At first I thought this would be a scam project, because the team cut off communication access from the bounty hunter to the team, such as telegram groups, threads, and spreadsheets. But what is surprising is, today I have received a token and have exchanged it on Uniswap at a price that I don't think is very good, but I still exchange it because I need money  :D. So I think we better be patient waiting for the distribution of tokens from the team.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: ardentvolcanoes on December 15, 2020, 06:57:01 PM

I don't call it normal,i name it scam. Close down bounty group means they don't want anybody to speak, blocked access to the spreadsheet means they probably don't want to pay the reward to the bounty hunter, what an ironic project.
Exactly, that's a matter of fact, if they are closing the bounty group and also blocked access to the spreadsheet means it is crystal clear that it is a scam and they have not had the intentions to deliver the reward to the participants. Now hunters get used to with such scams.

Hunters need to move forward and avoid such kinds of bounty works, it's clear that if there's no information then the team have a high

chance not to pay the participants, waste of time and efforts, things that each participants needs to learned, you have to be more selective

in picking the team or projects to support to avoid this kind of team.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Maxstl007 on December 15, 2020, 07:03:04 PM

I don't call it normal,i name it scam. Close down bounty group means they don't want anybody to speak, blocked access to the spreadsheet means they probably don't want to pay the reward to the bounty hunter, what an ironic project.
Exactly, that's a matter of fact, if they are closing the bounty group and also blocked access to the spreadsheet means it is crystal clear that it is a scam and they have not had the intentions to deliver the reward to the participants. Now hunters get used to with such scams.

Hunters need to move forward and avoid such kinds of bounty works, it's clear that if there's no information then the team have a high

chance not to pay the participants, waste of time and efforts, things that each participants needs to learned, you have to be more selective

in picking the team or projects to support to avoid this kind of team.
Some already received their tokens and the last batch haven't been sent yet because of Ethereum high gas fee, I have PM the CEO himself, it seems that only signature campaign participants remains to be completed, let's give them some more time


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Chainsmokers on December 15, 2020, 07:44:00 PM
of the complaints that you give clearly this is something that is not normal closes all access so that the bounty hunter cannot see at all My speculation is a sign of a bounty scam so don't get your hopes up better keep the spirit working on the bounty forget the bounty base protocol there are many other good bounties


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Slingshot on December 15, 2020, 09:56:46 PM
I have been hearing alot about this bounty and how huge it is but the only thing I can say is for one to always expect this when doing bounty. There's always uncertainty in bounty so whatever that comes one should always take it that way. Be hopeful they later update spreadsheet and distribute to hunters but it's really sad to experience this which we always see.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Zeehaxan on December 15, 2020, 10:09:49 PM
Guys is any of these normal?

1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet

This is what base protocol team did to their promoters, all those that participate in signature campaign aren't rewarded any stakes and they can't even look at spreadsheet, bounty group is closed too so anyone can't complain and yet the team said they will make distribution in the next 42 hours
This is strange and each campaign should be transparent and open so that community can see, if everything is closed no wonder they can deceive the participants by paying less or paying more to their own employees or team members, transparency is the key thing required in all campaigns.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: bttmember on December 15, 2020, 10:40:02 PM
Guys is any of these normal?

1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet

This is what base protocol team did to their promoters, all those that participate in signature campaign aren't rewarded any stakes and they can't even look at spreadsheet, bounty group is closed too so anyone can't complain and yet the team said they will make distribution in the next 42 hours
Heard about base protocol a few weeks ago, the project is legit and it is already doing well on the exchanges but i would agree with you that their way of handling the bounty campaign was completely below par and unprofessional. I think they should either open the spreadsheets or give some sort of bonus to all the participants as compensation.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: CuriousGeorge on December 15, 2020, 10:56:34 PM

I don't call it normal,i name it scam. Close down bounty group means they don't want anybody to speak, blocked access to the spreadsheet means they probably don't want to pay the reward to the bounty hunter, what an ironic project.
Exactly, that's a matter of fact, if they are closing the bounty group and also blocked access to the spreadsheet means it is crystal clear that it is a scam and they have not had the intentions to deliver the reward to the participants. Now hunters get used to with such scams.

Hunters need to move forward and avoid such kinds of bounty works, it's clear that if there's no information then the team have a high

chance not to pay the participants, waste of time and efforts, things that each participants needs to learned, you have to be more selective

in picking the team or projects to support to avoid this kind of team.
Some already received their tokens and the last batch haven't been sent yet because of Ethereum high gas fee, I have PM the CEO himself, it seems that only signature campaign participants remains to be completed, let's give them some more time
The signature participants have also received their payment dude. i have checked that from some people who are still wearing the base protocol signature.
It seems like that all of tokens already paid to the participants.
This problem should be clear because the developers have been paying the hunters. It's getting a small delay.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Yatsan on December 15, 2020, 11:39:52 PM
That is not actually normal specially when the distribution of bounties are not taken into place for you will not have any access on either group and spreadsheet which is already looks suspicious. But locking of the spreadsheet might get consider as they maybe doing all the tabulations on hand to finish the computation of the bounty rewards/stakes that will be given to the participants. You will surely doubt such actions coming from the team for what is the purpose of that action. But it seems like the participants have been paid after the stated 42hours so it is not already an issue. But that would be rare to happen for mostly projects doing the clearing of group and locking the spreadsheet is getting away avoiding the terms of payment in short a scam. Luckily the OP have been into a legit one. It is just the actions that look strange then.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Zemomtum on December 15, 2020, 11:57:08 PM
Closing down the group after the end of the bounty is a red flag. Most often, bounty managers do that to update stakes and get the allocation round, this is often communicated to participants via the bounty group which has been closed down.  I think nobody should be expecting anything positive from this kind of situation.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: iamaruf on December 15, 2020, 11:59:19 PM
Sad but true, this is normal.  Last two years there are lots of projects that scammed bounty hunters. Even some of them are reputed projects in the crypto industry. Actually, only 10% of the projects paid bounty hunters. After finishing the campaign they start drama. They delete the telegram group. Or they announce that they will pay after 3 months then ran away and scam hunter. Don't be sad and expect from them. move on


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: ReliabilityAlert222 on January 17, 2021, 06:39:59 PM
This is so abnormal. That is a sign that they don't even care about their bounty. It only can be closed if the participants have already received their rewards otherwise it is very likely that they don't want to pay. It can be a scam project and I think this project has ended up without paying the bounty hunters.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: trauchot on January 18, 2021, 05:58:38 PM
Unfortunately this happens very often and it is very difficult to solve this problem, of course, if all bounty hunters who participated in this bounty company will get together and if you will start acting together, then of course it will be possible to achieve some result, but unfortunately there is nothing to do one by one, and there were already a lot of such bounty companies like base protocol, and the most annoying thing is that there will be still a lot of such bounty companies in the future.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Mahanton on January 18, 2021, 06:14:24 PM
Guys is any of these normal?

1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet

This is what base protocol team did to their promoters, all those that participate in signature campaign aren't rewarded any stakes and they can't even look at spreadsheet, bounty group is closed too so anyone can't complain and yet the team said they will make distribution in the next 42 hours

1. No it isn't normal because its a shady thing when they suddenly close it out unless if the do announce it some valid reason but I don't really see right on this one.
2. When everything is blocked or closed the spreadsheet without viable reason then that would be shady.

This is the common problem when it comes to bounties where there are lots of projects are shit now and joining bounties isn't something that you can expect for getting paid.
When you do bounty hunting then expect for this thing to happen.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: flagpara on January 18, 2021, 11:40:22 PM
Guys is any of these normal?

1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet

This is what base protocol team did to their promoters, all those that participate in signature campaign aren't rewarded any stakes and they can't even look at spreadsheet, bounty group is closed too so anyone can't complain and yet the team said they will make distribution in the next 42 hours
Actually, this is normal. I saw so many campaigns that did the same distribution, even some campaigns didn't open spreadsheet but sent the screenshot of your account with tokens. But I don't find any reason to block bounty groups. The Swapzilla campaign was average but so many fake users were in the final spreadsheet and the telegram group was locked.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Santri on January 22, 2021, 05:33:06 AM
I just went to the bounty thread and for the telegram bounty group there is no "https://t.me/basebounty not found", I don't know about this, they have paid participants fairly or not


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: lixer on January 24, 2021, 03:11:38 AM
That looks like a scam to me, they will just keep you guys hoping that you all are going to get paid, and they won’t pay. Maybe you should have done some background check of the project’s team to know who they really are and what other project hey have been into in the past and whether they paid those that participated in the past project. I am already seeing a comment that says that the team that owns the project are scammers and this is is not their first project and the first one they also never paid those that participated. If they are not scammers I don’t see any reason why they would block everyone from having access to their group.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Ken_terrance on January 24, 2021, 07:29:28 AM
That looks like a scam to me, they will just keep you guys hoping that you all are going to get paid, and they won’t pay. Maybe you should have done some background check of the project’s team to know who they really are and what other project hey have been into in the past and whether they paid those that participated in the past project. I am already seeing a comment that says that the team that owns the project are scammers and this is is not their first project and the first one they also never paid those that participated. If they are not scammers I don’t see any reason why they would block everyone from having access to their group.
Base protocol isn't a scam, they paid all bounty hunters as they promised, I have a friend that joined their Signature campaign, the problem is the team failed to hire a qualified bounty manager and they decide to manage the w themselves but the project team are limited, to further the project development they have no time to record stakes, lame excuse isn't it? But that was what happened


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Natsuu on January 24, 2021, 07:37:14 AM
That looks like a scam to me, they will just keep you guys hoping that you all are going to get paid, and they won’t pay. Maybe you should have done some background check of the project’s team to know who they really are and what other project hey have been into in the past and whether they paid those that participated in the past project. I am already seeing a comment that says that the team that owns the project are scammers and this is is not their first project and the first one they also never paid those that participated. If they are not scammers I don’t see any reason why they would block everyone from having access to their group.
Base protocol isn't a scam, they paid all bounty hunters as they promised, I have a friend that joined their Signature campaign, the problem is the team failed to hire a qualified bounty manager and they decide to manage the w themselves but the project team are limited, to further the project development they have no time to record stakes, lame excuse isn't it? But that was what happened

very lame, there's one comment in here who says that the campaign manager has already been involved in some bounty campaign scam, so it is part of the Base protocol's irresponsibility to find a good and clean manager. I won't call it scam cause Base protocol might be good and legit, but the event says that they should take great responsibility, whether they have a record or not, they should pay the hunters for the promotions.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Rowenta on January 24, 2021, 08:37:16 AM
There are few reasons to consider that base protocol is a scam project but it ends up that the team aren't professionals after all, at first I doubted the project but as time goes on I later realized that the project has only 3 members that are focusing more on development, another thing they did wrong is they don't trust any outsider to manage the bounty campaign for them, I personally introduced popular bounty managers to the team yet they refused


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Rowenta on January 24, 2021, 08:38:29 AM
Every payment is done and only those who failed to contribute at all are left out, even those who participants in just two weeks out of six weeks campaign I guess still got paid, I never expected that they will keep their promises


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on January 24, 2021, 09:17:13 AM
That looks like a scam to me, they will just keep you guys hoping that you all are going to get paid, and they won’t pay. Maybe you should have done some background check of the project’s team to know who they really are and what other project hey have been into in the past and whether they paid those that participated in the past project. I am already seeing a comment that says that the team that owns the project are scammers and this is is not their first project and the first one they also never paid those that participated. If they are not scammers I don’t see any reason why they would block everyone from having access to their group.
Base protocol isn't a scam, they paid all bounty hunters as they promised, I have a friend that joined their Signature campaign, the problem is the team failed to hire a qualified bounty manager and they decide to manage the w themselves but the project team are limited, to further the project development they have no time to record stakes, lame excuse isn't it? But that was what happened

very lame, there's one comment in here who says that the campaign manager has already been involved in some bounty campaign scam, so it is part of the Base protocol's irresponsibility to find a good and clean manager. I won't call it scam cause Base protocol might be good and legit, but the event says that they should take great responsibility, whether they have a record or not, they should pay the hunters for the promotions.
Even Base Protocol is a legitimate or trusted project; they should be hiring a trusted and good bounty manager to avoid having complaints and able to pay their participants. So I feel sorry for those bounty hunters who have been scam by the Base Protocol's bounty manager because of the bounty campaign scam that they didn't receive their rewards.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Ryushin on January 24, 2021, 04:46:10 PM
Base protocol team brings all the blames on themselves, it would have been a different story if they hire a bounty manager for the job, they are too busy is a good excuse but not be able to hire a bounty manager is a stupid excuse, I was surprised they paid bounty hunters because I doubted they will ever pay because of the way they handle everything


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Congyang on January 24, 2021, 11:39:22 PM
Guys is any of these normal?

1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet

This is what base protocol team did to their promoters, all those that participate in signature campaign aren't rewarded any stakes and they can't even look at spreadsheet, bounty group is closed too so anyone can't complain and yet the team said they will make distribution in the next 42 hours
admin as the decision maker has left the group and you are still asking is it normal? I think it's definitely a scam and you should get away from that group. because it has become a trash group.
If it is a successful group the admin will not leave or leave but stay and provide information to the members


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Banulit on January 25, 2021, 02:40:18 AM
I don't that this is normal and I think that the project turns out to be scam project because of the fact that the do not have proper communication to the bounty hunter regarding this kind of situation as well as they did not update their spreadsheet often times and not updating the spreadsheet for staking is one red flag if you are joining bounty campaigns. Suggestion is that do a deep research before participating in a bounty campaign to avoid this kind of circumstances.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: RussianEnglishTranslation on January 25, 2021, 08:01:56 AM
Bounty participants often game bounty reward systems, so projects stop honoring bounty claims. The same can be said for airdrops.

There are a lot of scams in this industry, it's an unregulated market and everyone will likely get scammed at some point so diversify and do your research.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: JHORN on January 25, 2021, 10:38:13 AM
Guys is any of these normal?

1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet

This is what base protocol team did to their promoters, all those that participate in signature campaign aren't rewarded any stakes and they can't even look at spreadsheet, bounty group is closed too so anyone can't complain and yet the team said they will make distribution in the next 42 hours
Doesn't look normal to me but fortunately all bounty hunters that promoted base protocol still get paid, the teams are just too lazy or busy to update spreadsheet themselves, but not just in the right way, all tokens are sent out in their own ways, not actually what hunters earned by hard working


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: sapnu on January 25, 2021, 04:32:26 PM
Guys is any of these normal?

1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet

This is what base protocol team did to their promoters, all those that participate in signature campaign aren't rewarded any stakes and they can't even look at spreadsheet, bounty group is closed too so anyone can't complain and yet the team said they will make distribution in the next 42 hours
It's not normal so it's probably a scam. I experienced the same thing a lot before actually and it made me so mad but too bad, there's nothing much I can do about it. Bounty campaigns gives good profit before not until plenty of scams started showing up. Ever since, I always made sure that the bounty manager is trustworthy before I join because it is very disappointing whenever you spend lots of time and effort promoting their campaign but in the end you won't recieve any amount of profit from all of your hardwork.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: VDraci on January 25, 2021, 04:56:50 PM
This topic needs to be closed because base protocol have paid all bounty hunters what they owe them, presently only social media bounty for base protocol is ongoing, the way teams handled the campaign was poor but everything is been settled


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: wxxyrqa on January 25, 2021, 05:12:05 PM
Guys is any of these normal?

1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet

This is what base protocol team did to their promoters, all those that participate in signature campaign aren't rewarded any stakes and they can't even look at spreadsheet, bounty group is closed too so anyone can't complain and yet the team said they will make distribution in the next 42 hours
Doesn't look normal to me but fortunately all bounty hunters that promoted base protocol still get paid, the teams are just too lazy or busy to update spreadsheet themselves, but not just in the right way, all tokens are sent out in their own ways, not actually what hunters earned by hard working
In fact, today we are seeing not only fraud on the part of the teams of some projects, but also some managers do not do their job and at the same time they constantly abuse their capabilities. Most likely they work for their own pocket, that is, for their own wallet and do not care about the common good.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: xiboothrezi on January 25, 2021, 11:01:26 PM
This topic needs to be closed because base protocol have paid all bounty hunters what they owe them, presently only social media bounty for base protocol is ongoing, the way teams handled the campaign was poor but everything is been settled
I am happy to hear this. hopefully, the OP will be updated soon.
As a bounty hunter, I am saddened when there is a delay in the distribution or the dev team does not pay according to the agreement. well, even though as a bounty hunter we must be prepared for the worst risk, namely not being paid and trapped in a scam.

The lesson we can take from here is, when there are suspicious signs such as spreadsheets that are not updated immediately, access to the social media accounts of the dev team or the bounty is closed without any reasonable explanation, you should start to be careful and prepare for the worst.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Wulan_maniez on January 25, 2021, 11:34:07 PM
This topic needs to be closed because base protocol have paid all bounty hunters what they owe them, presently only social media bounty for base protocol is ongoing, the way teams handled the campaign was poor but everything is been settled
As a bounty hunter, I’m happy to hear the Base Protocol Team has handled this matter with all of their participants. Sometimes as bounty hunters we will experience unexpected problems, such as delays in payment by projects, locked spreadsheets and many other problems. Surely we have to prepare for all those problems.
Because not all of those projects went as smoothly as we imagined.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Mahanton on January 25, 2021, 11:59:17 PM
This topic needs to be closed because base protocol have paid all bounty hunters what they owe them, presently only social media bounty for base protocol is ongoing, the way teams handled the campaign was poor but everything is been settled
As a bounty hunter, I’m happy to hear the Base Protocol Team has handled this matter with all of their participants. Sometimes as bounty hunters we will experience unexpected problems, such as delays in payment by projects, locked spreadsheets and many other problems. Surely we have to prepare for all those problems.
Because not all of those projects went as smoothly as we imagined.
but as a bounty manager should ensure that it is as good and transparent as possible without any such anomalies, delaying distribution because the team that has not provided an allocation to the bounty manager is indeed reasonable but if it locks the spreadhseet and does not provide clear information to the bounty participants only will make the participants disappointed.
It would really be a disappointing one because you wouldnt know on whats actually happening beyond the curtains and if there are no announcement towards those such blocking or
delaying those payments or distribution then this will really something putting up on someones mind on ending up on being scammed.

No legit project would eventually do this kind of behavior.Everything should really be transparent or can be known yet advertisers are part of the projects success.
Exposure and advertisement does really have significant effect on it.They shouldnt ran off into their responsibilities.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: wiss19 on January 26, 2021, 03:46:51 PM
Guys is any of these normal?

1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet
There is no excuse that the team can give about a situation like this or have they paid you.
Why would they be blocking bounty hunters from the telegram group, if not only because they want to scam them?

If there is something they want to do, there is nothing wrong if they keep the group open so that they will let the hunters know that there is nothing they are hiding from them and also to give them the assurance that they are all going to get paid for the works they had done.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: shoreno on January 26, 2021, 04:17:27 PM
This topic needs to be closed because base protocol have paid all bounty hunters what they owe them, presently only social media bounty for base protocol is ongoing, the way teams handled the campaign was poor but everything is been settled
As a bounty hunter, I’m happy to hear the Base Protocol Team has handled this matter with all of their participants. Sometimes as bounty hunters we will experience unexpected problems, such as delays in payment by projects, locked spreadsheets and many other problems. Surely we have to prepare for all those problems.
Because not all of those projects went as smoothly as we imagined.
plus 1 for this and we dont need to think negative instantly because it  doesnt help in a good way but only help to make the situation more worster .

 they arent scammers at all because they pay in the end but we dont know if what if they only have their own reasons on why they delay the payments and do other things that we think negative already just because we never experience this on any other bounty that we have participated .


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: heztida3 on January 27, 2021, 06:15:43 AM
Telegram bunches identified with bounties possibly have the right to be shut without issues if the abundance members have gotten their prizes. In the event that the gathering closes before everything is all together, it very well may be supposed to be an endeavor to stay away from installment. The solitary thing you can clutch is the abundance director's last arrangement in the gathering. In the event that they deny it, at that point it's probable they would prefer not to pay.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: fuer44 on January 27, 2021, 07:22:51 AM
Guys is any of these normal?

1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet

This is what base protocol team did to their promoters, all those that participate in signature campaign aren't rewarded any stakes and they can't even look at spreadsheet, bounty group is closed too so anyone can't complain and yet the team said they will make distribution in the next 42 hours
then, has it been realized? if so, it means that the team doesn't need social media anymore. but if not, I think it's a scam fix. because closing the bounty group when the token has not been distributed or the token has not been launched to the exchange market is something that is not true. Then not being able to access the spreadsheet is also a strange thing, because it should be accessed so that participants can see their work, also if someone wants to report writing errors in the spreadsheet and so on.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Joyawan13 on January 27, 2021, 07:43:40 AM
Guys is any of these normal?

1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet

This is what base protocol team did to their promoters, all those that participate in signature campaign aren't rewarded any stakes and they can't even look at spreadsheet, bounty group is closed too so anyone can't complain and yet the team said they will make distribution in the next 42 hours
then, has it been realized? if so, it means that the team doesn't need social media anymore. but if not, I think it's a scam fix. because closing the bounty group when the token has not been distributed or the token has not been launched to the exchange market is something that is not true. Then not being able to access the spreadsheet is also a strange thing, because it should be accessed so that participants can see their work, also if someone wants to report writing errors in the spreadsheet and so on.
sometimes it can be done after the end of a bounty, and the manager needs it
it took a few days to calculate or the total distribution of tokens from all the total stake obtained from the participants who participated in it, but for example, for a few weeks, for example, if the spreadsheet cannot be opened or we cannot access, it can be said that fraud will occur, and of the project does not want to pay their promoters if the project will succeed.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: kevinzxz on January 27, 2021, 02:37:22 PM
Guys is any of these normal?

1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet

This is what base protocol team did to their promoters, all those that participate in signature campaign aren't rewarded any stakes and they can't even look at spreadsheet, bounty group is closed too so anyone can't complain and yet the team said they will make distribution in the next 42 hours

I participated in this bounty, but it is true if the team distributed bounty payment (because I get payment from the bounty and I participated in signature campaign), it's just that the team isn't transparent and doesn't give bounty hunter the opportunity to check on their work, so we don't know whether the team is calculating the stake correctly or not and provide a bounty hunter with appropriate payment or not, even the team doesn't care about the comments or opinions of bounty hunter, so in my opinion the team is not transparent and fair.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: firmino10 on January 27, 2021, 10:48:44 PM
Not usual, groups identified with bounties possibly have the right to be shut down without issues if the bounty members have gotten their prizes. If the group closes before everything is all together, it very well may be supposed to be an endeavor to keep away from payment. The solitary thing you can hold on to is the bounty director's last arrangement in the group. If they deny it, at that point it's presumable they would prefer not to pay


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Winscosinally on February 10, 2021, 08:41:31 PM
Guys is any of these normal?

1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet

This is what base protocol team did to their promoters, all those that participate in signature campaign aren't rewarded any stakes and they can't even look at spreadsheet, bounty group is closed too so anyone can't complain and yet the team said they will make distribution in the next 42 hours
Every delays and disappointments from base protocol team is noted but in the end they still end up paying their participants, that's all that matters, teams have different ways of handling things you just have to go along with whatever the team decide for the project


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: CutePanda on February 11, 2021, 02:51:18 AM
well first, it might happen because :

1. the ICO project failed
2. there's no investor who invest in those bounty
3. it's a scam project

if you ask is that normal or not, well i can clearly say it's not normal, but it happened.
that's why you should do some research first before you choose which bounty you wanna do before,
i hope that you'll be more careful from now on. cheers


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Pamadar on February 11, 2021, 04:41:36 AM
well first, it might happen because :

1. the ICO project failed
2. there's no investor who invest in those bounty
3. it's a scam project

if you ask is that normal or not, well i can clearly say it's not normal, but it happened.
that's why you should do some research first before you choose which bounty you wanna do before,
i hope that you'll be more careful from now on. cheers

You need to work with your research before jumping into any bounty campaigns.

A lots of things can happened while you are participating in bounty works, team may disappear or decline paying participants. Not normal but possible to happened as there are already many scam project who runaway since they don't have any intentions to fulfill their promises, projects that only intend to collect money from poor investors.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Balladtony77 on February 11, 2021, 05:06:20 AM
well first, it might happen because :

1. the ICO project failed
2. there's no investor who invest in those bounty
3. it's a scam project

if you ask is that normal or not, well i can clearly say it's not normal, but it happened.
that's why you should do some research first before you choose which bounty you wanna do before,
i hope that you'll be more careful from now on. cheers
Your point shows that you don't know a thing about base protocol, they raised good money through ICO, many investors invested in this token and No it's not a scam project, upon all the delays from the team they ended up settling their debts so I don't see why this thread is still open


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: aioc on February 11, 2021, 05:23:39 AM
Guys is any of these normal?

1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet

This is what base protocol team did to their promoters, all those that participate in signature campaign aren't rewarded any stakes and they can't even look at spreadsheet, bounty group is closed too so anyone can't complain and yet the team said they will make distribution in the next 42 hours

That is a sure sign of scam projects and those who participate don this project should post this project to the scam section, so they can warn other people about this especially investors, a legit project should always honor its commitment to its bounty hunters promoters and the community, if they are honoring it, they don't deserve trust from investors.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Byakuga on February 11, 2021, 06:59:06 AM
Bounty projects don't have the same team members so be expecting different kind of habits and attitudes from them, you can't do anything than follow their rules if truly you want to get paid, this is just the way things are with bounties, some will end up paying nothing and some will mistreat hunters but later consider them, it's been like this since the beginning


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: slaman29 on February 11, 2021, 04:00:30 PM
Bounty projects don't have the same team members so be expecting different kind of habits and attitudes from them, you can't do anything than follow their rules if truly you want to get paid, this is just the way things are with bounties, some will end up paying nothing and some will mistreat hunters but later consider them, it's been like this since the beginning

Been getting worse, but who can blame them? I think we just need to wisen up and start treating these jobs like they are: peanut jobs. A proper role somewhere with a recognized project and actual utility and community is never going to be easy but it pays off in the end.

Then again, I guess most people don't want to wait to get a big payoff. Familiar story of crypto.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: isaac_clarke22 on February 11, 2021, 04:45:53 PM
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That is a sure sign of scam projects and those who participate don this project should post this project to the scam section, so they can warn other people about this especially investors, a legit project should always honor its commitment to its bounty hunters promoters and the community, if they are honoring it, they don't deserve trust from investors.
Who in the right mind would even stay in a bounty if the spreadsheet weren't being updated already?
OP seems to point out the obvious signs already that the project is just going nowhere at all. Just something to expect nothing.
Worse is  that people still yearning and rooting for those. Creating unnecessary free advertisements causing investor to think that it is still a legitimate project.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: meldrio1 on February 11, 2021, 05:28:13 PM
They closed down the bounty group after the bounty ends?, that's not normal that move is likely a scam, and also failed to update the spreadsheet and later hunters can not access it, that's a sign of scam to me but if they promised that you will get your reward in that day then you should wait, if they broke their promised then you gonna move on, there is nothing we can do with those scammers.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: Jocuserious on February 11, 2021, 05:37:22 PM
After finish distribution bounty token then if they gonna delete bounty group it's normal. But team wouldn't active official telegram group then it can't be normal. there are lot of bounty group gonna delete before distribution token so that's means they won't payment hunter token.


Title: Re: Is this even normal?
Post by: JahriMeayer on February 23, 2021, 06:59:39 PM
Those aren't normal but can be considered as pure scammers team.bounty hunters worked hard to promote project but it was unfair, not to give their reward. For example, base protocol is stand on good position with its 5M supply but don't know how could people trust on those cheaters?! Even that guy post new bounty on 5th januray in this year and newbie are still joining with it when they know they mightn't be get their reward.