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December 13, 2020, 11:06:52 PM
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This is absolutely not normal, probably they are trying to avoid paying the bounty participants, I think it will be very great if bitcointalk team can come up with a strategy to cub all this scam bounties that have been going on around the platform, if a body can be set up to monitor and regulate every listed bounty here to reduce scam, it did be a great step forward.

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December 13, 2020, 11:23:43 PM
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They should be open in calculating the stake and especially the distribution of tokens. Each bounty hunter must know how much stake he gets and what percentage of tokens are allocated to each program (such as twitter, siganture campaign and Facebook) unless they provide definite rewards in the general rules of the program so that each bounty hunter can count each one so that when he gets an inappropriate reward he can complain it.
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December 13, 2020, 11:28:30 PM
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This is absolutely not normal, probably they are trying to avoid paying the bounty participants, I think it will be very great if bitcointalk team can come up with a strategy to cub all this scam bounties that have been going on around the platform, if a body can be set up to monitor and regulate every listed bounty here to reduce scam, it did be a great step forward.

And that kind of situation is normal for scam projects.
Users here are already doing their best to warn others for potential scam projects via the Scam Accusations board.
There are several users that are really keen in exposing the potential source of failure of the project like having plagiarized wp or having fake team members.
So if you are a responsible investor, and you don't have time to assess the project, you can visit that board = https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0 to check projects with existing issues.
But as much as possible, if you want to invest, you need to do your own research and evaluation. No one can do that for you.
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December 14, 2020, 07:18:40 AM
Last edit: August 20, 2021, 07:32:59 AM by aubert
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The campaign ends on December 9th so it's only natural that you still can't access the spreadsheet, don't panic, buddy, give them time to calculate it all. it seems like this is your first experience with manager like this
Do you watch the announcement that already made on its telegram group? The BM didn't even try to reveal the spreadsheet and the hunters didn't know how much they have got from there and it can be easily manipulated by the bounty managers. The base participants feel worried about this.
You know nothing about this based on what you are saying.

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December 14, 2020, 07:25:13 AM
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This is not so normal, I think this project will end up not paying any bounty hunters, let's wait till 48hours and see what happens, it's very rare in this type of cases for such team to keep their promise, hiding spreadsheet and blocking bounty group them distribution isn't over is 👎👎👎👎, the foot print the team left with their first project is why I don't bother to promote base protocol, they claimed they refund their investors but not completely

I have the feeling they are going to pay because they wouldn't want the accusation made about them being untrusted to be true, their account already have a red trust which is not a good thing,

What I think they want to do with this behaviour is to short pay participants, if you look at their post on Telegram bounty chat, the first post says bounty pool is "37030.31365 BASE, split across the different campaigns"  while the second and recent Post says "There were a total of 30703 BASE allocated for the bounty" what happens to the remaining 6,327 base  Shocked,
My guess is they will manipulate the payment and try to avoid any confrontation which is why they put the bounty group on restriction.
You are very good at observing, I thought I was the only one that saw that, the first promised pool allocation was 37030 and later changed to 30703, I knew they are trying so hard to avoid paying full payment, also the translation campaign was tampered with because it's locked, they've gives stakes to all participants and rewards the tokens but later they removed few participants and readjust tokens

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December 14, 2020, 07:38:38 AM
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Relax everyone, the payment announcement have been made public on the bounty thread itself, it shows that they tend to pay every bounty hunters that participated in the campaign, give them time and wait for your tokens before making scam accusation comments, they won't dare ruin their reputation because they already have a stain from their first project that was closed down.

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December 14, 2020, 07:55:21 AM
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Of course it is not normal to close the bounty group suddenly, how to communicate with the project admin if the bounty group is closed.
Even though the rewards have not been distributed to participants, this is very likely the project is a scam. Regarding the spreadsheet
blocked by admin, this is still normal, because usually the bounty manager is calculating the number of stakes that bounty hunters get.
Now just wait for the next 42 hours. As promised, if the rewards have not been distributed as well and there is no more news from the
projects team. This means that the project is 100% a scam.

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December 14, 2020, 08:04:33 AM
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Guys is any of these normal?

1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet

This is what base protocol team did to their promoters, all those that participate in signature campaign aren't rewarded any stakes and they can't even look at spreadsheet, bounty group is closed too so anyone can't complain and yet the team said they will make distribution in the next 42 hours

If this things happen to you're campaign then you obviously join in scam bounty and that project is full of scam. They only use advertiser to get money with the help of everybody's promotion and there is no plan to give it back the rewards to it's community. One solution you can do for now it's eighter open scam Accusations so project owner see and fix it or else give them negative feedback.
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December 14, 2020, 08:21:17 AM
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The campaign ends on December 9th so it's only natural that you still can't access the spreadsheet, don't panic, buddy, give them time to calculate it all. it seems like this is your first experience with manager like this
Dylan isn't a bounty manager but part of base protocol team, this guy have zero managing experience, probably too lazy to update spreadsheet because of project development, that's acceptable but many told him to hire a bounty manager, he refused all proposals, I think the team have trust issues too

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December 14, 2020, 08:33:59 AM
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The campaign ends on December 9th so it's only natural that you still can't access the spreadsheet, don't panic, buddy, give them time to calculate it all. it seems like this is your first experience with manager like this
Dylan isn't a bounty manager but part of base protocol team, this guy have zero managing experience, probably too lazy to update spreadsheet because of project development, that's acceptable but many told him to hire a bounty manager, he refused all proposals, I think the team have trust issues too
They closed the bounty group and people can't respond which is very unusual, this is definitely the act of scammers. I think there's no need to calm down because they don't want to pay the bounty hunter.
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December 14, 2020, 08:48:10 AM
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I have the feeling they are going to pay because they wouldn't want the accusation made about them being untrusted to be true, their account already have a red trust which is not a good thing,

What I think they want to do with this behaviour is to short pay participants, if you look at their post on Telegram bounty chat, the first post says bounty pool is "37030.31365 BASE, split across the different campaigns"  while the second and recent Post says "There were a total of 30703 BASE allocated for the bounty" what happens to the remaining 6,327 base  Shocked,
My guess is they will manipulate the payment and try to avoid any confrontation which is why they put the bounty group on restriction.
You are very good at observing, I thought I was the only one that saw that, the first promised pool allocation was 37030 and later changed to 30703, I knew they are trying so hard to avoid paying full payment, also the translation campaign was tampered with because it's locked, they've gives stakes to all participants and rewards the tokens but later they removed few participants and readjust tokens
It looks like the manager was typo about that and you can see all of the numbers are the same with the old total token but he was typing 0 too fast and that makes the total calculation was getting changed.
It's a human eror dude but the problem is whether the team wanna try to distribute the reward or not.

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December 14, 2020, 08:55:46 AM
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the manager who manages the project has redtrust, which means he has made a bad mistake, but you still believe in joining the project he manages, this is a risk that you have to bear and don't complain

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December 14, 2020, 08:58:49 AM
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Guys is any of these normal?

1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet

This is what base protocol team did to their promoters, all those that participate in signature campaign aren't rewarded any stakes and they can't even look at spreadsheet, bounty group is closed too so anyone can't complain and yet the team said they will make distribution in the next 42 hours

it's not normal, obviously it's a fraud. everything that BM did was very detrimental to the bounty hunter. they can't go around doing all that. The spreadsheet is locked without any certainty about how it will be accepted by all participants.

This is why I don't really like to follow bounties that are rated by Mamber rank or below. they can do anything they want, and they don't care if they get redtrust.
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December 14, 2020, 09:01:55 AM
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1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet
How many people have the same fate as you.

Could you please point out their project link and the manager who manages the project.

Show here what you are complaining about, I need proof of this accusation displayed here and I will warn them by flagging it.

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December 14, 2020, 09:24:16 AM
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I don't call it normal,i name it scam. Close down bounty group means they don't want anybody to speak, blocked access to the spreadsheet means they probably don't want to pay the reward to the bounty hunter, what a ironic project.

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December 14, 2020, 09:48:10 AM
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the manager who manages the project has redtrust, which means he has made a bad mistake, but you still believe in joining the project he manages, this is a risk that you have to bear and don't complain

Having a red trust don't necessary means the bounty will not pay, they are separate things, i have join and equally seen campaigns promoted by red trust members and all participants receive their reward,
the payment process is in the hand of the team now, since they have given 42 hours for participants to receive payment they should be giving the benefit of doubt, i just want to correct you on that part.

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December 14, 2020, 10:13:06 AM
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This group is a scammer who came back after committing fraud in 2017. They also in that year did not pay participants, many participants complained and asked for payment. They also locked down a bounty thread, and the manager did not give a rational response. Their faces are the same as the team that’s now on project Base Protocol. Maybe they’ve also committed a lot of fraud that we don’t know about other than the base protocol project and ICO spectiv.

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December 15, 2020, 07:29:31 AM
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This is not so normal, I think this project will end up not paying any bounty hunters, let's wait till 48hours and see what happens, it's very rare in this type of cases for such team to keep their promise, hiding spreadsheet and blocking bounty group them distribution isn't over is 👎👎👎👎, the foot print the team left with their first project is why I don't bother to promote base protocol, they claimed they refund their investors but not completely

I have the feeling they are going to pay because they wouldn't want the accusation made about them being untrusted to be true, their account already have a red trust which is not a good thing,

What I think they want to do with this behaviour is to short pay participants, if you look at their post on Telegram bounty chat, the first post says bounty pool is "37030.31365 BASE, split across the different campaigns"  while the second and recent Post says "There were a total of 30703 BASE allocated for the bounty" what happens to the remaining 6,327 base  Shocked,
My guess is they will manipulate the payment and try to avoid any confrontation which is why they put the bounty group on restriction.

I guess you were right after all, now it has been confirmed from this post that the bounty was paid but team cleverly shot paid hunters, the reason why both the spreadsheet and telegram bounty group was locked and restrict access for any confrontation, and the reason why they have 2 different bounty pool amount, it was a deliberate attempt,
they were accused of fraudulent behavior of their past project where they failed to refund to investors, well it appears a leopard will never leave it spots.

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December 15, 2020, 07:55:09 AM
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Guys is any of these normal?

1. Admin close down bounty group after bounty ends

2. Admin failed to update spreadsheet and gives stakes to participants and later block access to the spreadsheet

This is what base protocol team did to their promoters, all those that participate in signature campaign aren't rewarded any stakes and they can't even look at spreadsheet, bounty group is closed too so anyone can't complain and yet the team said they will make distribution in the next 42 hours
If the campaign ends the administrator must notify the bounty hunters and close the spreadsheet must reopen after a few days. In this situation, I found the scammer very high.
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December 15, 2020, 08:20:37 AM
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Yeah that is completely normal. This is how those bounty programs scam their participants. So this isn't a new thing. I have seen numerous thread and people complaining how those project managers completely stops communicating with their users at the end of the program. Only few gets paid while the rest are told they broke rules and everything.
So high chance you are going to get scammed by them. Since they said they will make the distribution after 42 hours, wait and see. If they don't, I doubt you can do anything.

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