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Title: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Ehrakeziah on December 15, 2020, 01:38:34 PM
We are thrilled to finally have covid-19 vaccines ready to be released on the market for the use of millions of people to prevent the virus. We are glad that the vaccines have been successful and some people have been injected as a test.

But what if even the vaccine that was really necessary for the safety of our health is fake? And you can buy it with your Bitcoin?

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A recent report by Checkpoint Research has shown there has been an alarming increase in the amount of fake COVID-19 vaccines available on the dark web. Anybody, who is able to solve the mystery of the dark web, can order and purchase these fake vaccines...but by paying in bitcoins.

The concept of paying through bitcoins, and not traditional money has made tracking these transactions harder for the experts.

"When researchers communicated with one vendor, they offered to sell an unspecified Covid-19 vaccine for 0.01 BTC (around US$300), and claimed that 14 doses were required.

These fake vaccines are being sold in the name of leading pharmaceuticals and are being priced for nearly $250 and above. "The range of medicines advertised by these vendors is extensive, from ‘available coronavirus vaccine $250’ to ‘Say bye bye to COVID19=CHLOROQUINE PHOSPHATE’ to ‘Buy fast.CORONA-VIRUS VACCINE IS OUT NOW’, and we have no way of knowing whether these are genuine," the post reads.

https://www.wionews.com/world/fake-covid-19-vaccines-surge-on-dark-web-research-349804

Paying bitcoin for the covid-19 vaccine is really good if it is not a fake vaccine and hopefully the government will allow it so that people who want to buy the vaccine have options.

Also, be careful everyone and be observant to avoid the fake vaccine because for sure it has a detrimental effect on our health.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: HeRetiK on December 15, 2020, 02:03:11 PM
Who in their right minds would buy covid-19 vaccines on the black market? Even if it were the right product there's no way to know whether it's been stored appropiately. Even mail delivery times would already cause trouble, at least with the Biontech/Pfizer vaccine.

Also keep in mind that many governments are going to vaccinate their citizens for free (or at least especially affected people such as health care workers or people with pre-existing conditions).


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: bekti3 on December 15, 2020, 02:41:13 PM
buy vaccines with bitcoin? That is highly discouraged. because the vaccine has guaranteed it in every country that it will provide relief in its purchase. Of course this will not be relevant, if this is used as bitcoin as a tool to buy vaccines, not just faked. on the contrary, they have different intentions. The funds collected from the sale of vaccines will automatically go to the state treasury. if it's transferred to a bitcoin wallet, then obviously there will only be one person holding it.
this is not a great solution.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: dothebeats on December 15, 2020, 02:53:17 PM
One thing to note is that the number of vaccines released are well accounted for, and the manufacturing of such will require specialized laboratories and storage facilities knowing that these mRNA vaccines will get inactivated, or not viable for use, if storage conditions were not met (which are usually tens of degrees below zero, with BioNTech’s vaccine needing -70 degC for storage). I get that most people are already desperate, but vaccines will come along their way through official channels. There’s no need to rush, and if possible, try to warn your local groups about these should you encounter such.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: imstillthebest on December 15, 2020, 02:53:36 PM
Who in their right minds would buy covid-19 vaccines on the black market? Even if it were the right product there's no way to know whether it's been stored appropiately. Even mail delivery times would already cause trouble, at least with the Biontech/Pfizer vaccine.
i guess those people that want to have an early access of the vaccines and they will do anything if its risky or not . they could be businessmens too and they can hoard , resell it  later for a higher value .

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Also keep in mind that many governments are going to vaccinate their citizens for free (or at least especially affected people such as health care workers or people with pre-existing conditions).
i heard that health officials are going to take the vaccine first to prove that it was safe because of the survey that 90 % of people wont take the vaccine imediately because of the failed vaccine that happened on the past that killed many people .


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Ehrakeziah on December 15, 2020, 03:39:34 PM
Who in their right minds would buy covid-19 vaccines on the black market? Even if it were the right product there's no way to know whether it's been stored appropiately. Even mail delivery times would already cause trouble, at least with the Biontech/Pfizer vaccine.

Also keep in mind that many governments are going to vaccinate their citizens for free (or at least especially affected people such as health care workers or people with pre-existing conditions).

There are people who still want to get the vaccine easily and no longer think about its effect on their body and health especially people who are really afraid of getting infected with the covid-19 virus.

Others will also take advantage of the situation and do things like make a fake vaccine and sell it on a dark web or in the community without thinking about whether it will harm the other people. All they want is to get money for their own benefit.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Ucy on December 15, 2020, 03:46:17 PM
 I wonder if they use fiat currencies on the dark web.  How easy can those buying/selling illegal things there transact businesses with fiat currencies without getting caught?

In my opinion, you could as well buy things like that with digital fiat currencies... all you need to do is to go to the sellers directly, make purchases and send them money p2p to their local bank accounts(with some application that preserve privacy/anonymity). Fiat transactions are hidden from the public unlike on Bitcoin... this would make things hard to prove without real transparency
I prefer a financial system that truely preserve privacy/anonymity but is still able keep track of people who use it for dangerous things. Hopefully, this is possible in the future with Bitcoin/crypto.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: slapper on December 15, 2020, 03:53:17 PM
Well, I wonder who willing to buy vaccines on darkweb. I will never use my bitcoin on such useless stuff like that. Government and hospitals are responsible for providing vaccines for citizens.

In my country, we are not quite familiar with Darkweb but I can ensure that no one will ever want to buy something on the internet without any guarantee. Unless they are recreational drugs, weapons, etc, it is not a good idea to buy vaccines. Who will protect you if you die after inject those fake vaccines. Be a smart citizen.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: avikz on December 15, 2020, 04:02:10 PM
Those who are really happy that a vaccine has finally come, I have a bit of bad news for you all! Covid-19 has become a matter of political importance, rather than a matter of public health.

Vaccine companies are not releasing the actual data of post vaccination side effects for obvious reasons. However, anyone senior executive associated with Pharmacovigilance, knows the truth! People are experiencing severe issues in their brain and other organs after taking the vaccine! Unfortunately, these data is kept hidden and nowhere released!

So even the vaccine your government has arranged, is fake! Darknet is just mimicking the real world!


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: dondonk on December 15, 2020, 04:22:46 PM
So far, we don't know which vaccine is really safe and effective. For me, the only hope for a vaccine to be authentic is a vaccine that is circulated with government intervention. because they certainly guarantee the safety of the vaccine.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: HeRetiK on December 15, 2020, 05:24:51 PM
Who in their right minds would buy covid-19 vaccines on the black market? Even if it were the right product there's no way to know whether it's been stored appropiately. Even mail delivery times would already cause trouble, at least with the Biontech/Pfizer vaccine.
i guess those people that want to have an early access of the vaccines and they will do anything if its risky or not . they could be businessmens too and they can hoard , resell it  later for a higher value .

It's going to be interesting whether there's going to be scalpers. Safe storage and logistics are a huge concern and I do believe that until production ramps up vaccine distribution and access is going to be closely monitored; making it rather difficult to get illegitimate access to vaccines on a business scale, except maybe in the most corrupt of countries.


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Also keep in mind that many governments are going to vaccinate their citizens for free (or at least especially affected people such as health care workers or people with pre-existing conditions).
i heard that health officials are going to take the vaccine first to prove that it was safe because of the survey that 90 % of people wont take the vaccine imediately because of the failed vaccine that happened on the past that killed many people .

Will depend on the country I guess? In the UK the first recipient was an old lady and in the US a NY health care worker. The vaccination prioritization of other western countries appears to be similar.


People are experiencing severe issues in their brain and other organs after taking the vaccine! Unfortunately, these data is kept hidden and nowhere released!

Source?

Given the controversy that the vaccines seem to cause in some circles there's going to be a lot of misinformation incoming, especially ones disavowing the vaccine like they did 5G. While studies on the long term effects are still out (for obvious reason, after all the vaccines are rather new) the immediate post vaccination side effects seem to be greatly exaggerated. Or put differently, they seem to be "not worse than a flu", to quote one of the dumbest sentences of 2020. Except true this time. Hopefully.

What worries me though is that while the current generation of covid-19 vaccines seem to be effective enough in terms of immunization, vaccinated individuals still appear to be contagious to some degree, even if they don't have symptoms. Accordingly building up herd immunity is likely to be harder than anticipated, at least until other vaccines come out.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on December 15, 2020, 07:10:10 PM
I have seen individual users purchasing prescription drugs and generic medicines from the dark market. But this is like a new extreme. I am not sure about this.. but chances are that you will be injecting something toxic and harmful into your body, which will offer you no resistance against the COVID 19 infection. BTW, how these guys are going to transport the vaccines? Most of them needs to be deep-frozen at <-70 degrees.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Tstar on December 15, 2020, 07:32:24 PM
The black market is full of scammers always trying to exploit every new trend.
People should use their heads better.

I have seen individual users purchasing prescription drugs and generic medicines from the dark market. But this is like a new extreme. I am not sure about this.. but chances are that you will be injecting something toxic and harmful into your body, which will offer you no resistance against the COVID 19 infection. BTW, how these guys are going to transport the vaccines? Most of them needs to be deep-frozen at <-70 degrees.

Only the RNA-based vaccines must be deep-frozen. The Russian and Oxford vaccines could be stored in standard fridges.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Soldierswitlittlefaith on December 15, 2020, 07:37:59 PM
Who in their right minds would buy covid-19 vaccines on the black market? Even if it were the right product there's no way to know whether it's been stored appropiately. Even mail delivery times would already cause trouble, at least with the Biontech/Pfizer vaccine.

Also keep in mind that many governments are going to vaccinate their citizens for free (or at least especially affected people such as health care workers or people with pre-existing conditions).


@HeRetiK, i guess your "Who" does not mean WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION!
fyi, what do you expect when media,politicians,celebrities ... spread fear into the heart of people by promoting the cov-19 news continuosly.

Today all we see is desperation & fear. most people don't mind buying the vaccine from dark or black market in course of trying to protect themselves and that of their love ones. It like an hungry person who does not really care about the  quality of food presented before him or her

I read somewhere on the web that china have started distributing some of these vaccines via web! i bet this whole stuff could end up creating another multi-billionaire project for the rich while the poor continue to strive to live,work,eat ....


Regards
Soldierwitlitttlefaith



Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: exstasie on December 15, 2020, 08:00:16 PM
Who in their right minds would buy covid-19 vaccines on the black market? Even if it were the right product there's no way to know whether it's been stored appropiately. Even mail delivery times would already cause trouble, at least with the Biontech/Pfizer vaccine.

Probably the same people who already turn to the black market for their medical needs, whether because their medicine is unavailable, illegal, or too expensive where they live. It's less common but you can find antidepressants, antipsychotics, and even epilepsy and dementia medications on the dark web. Same idea.

When it comes to COVID-19, there are lots of irrational and desperate people who just want to get vaccinated. Given that COVID-19 vaccines aren't widely available yet, there is obviously a market for it on the dark web.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: fishbonez11 on December 15, 2020, 08:19:28 PM
Who in their right minds would buy covid-19 vaccines on the black market? Even if it were the right product there's no way to know whether it's been stored appropiately. Even mail delivery times would already cause trouble, at least with the Biontech/Pfizer vaccine.

Also keep in mind that many governments are going to vaccinate their citizens for free (or at least especially affected people such as health care workers or people with pre-existing conditions).

Buying vaccine as early as now is like making yourself one of those who got free trial for testing. There are actually people who doesn't want to get a vaccine because of fear for side effects. Its no better to choose buying on blackmarket, you have no assurance of what will happen. It would be better to wait for free vaccine, you saved your Bitcoin and you also free from any health risk.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Dragonfund on December 15, 2020, 09:23:36 PM
We are all very aware how this vaccine took time before it was announced, but no official statement from the government or World health organizations who are the prime leader of this safe and free coronavirus vaccine.
Everyone should proceed with due diligence before purchasing anyone.
I hope government can organize a body who will watch and regulate this vaccine, the vaccination hasn't began and its already selling on dark web, what will happen when it's scanty (Vaccine) when the operation resumes fully for vaccination?
Stay safe everyone especially now that some countries are closing back due second wave of lock down.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: South Park on December 15, 2020, 10:11:20 PM
I have seen individual users purchasing prescription drugs and generic medicines from the dark market. But this is like a new extreme. I am not sure about this.. but chances are that you will be injecting something toxic and harmful into your body, which will offer you no resistance against the COVID 19 infection. BTW, how these guys are going to transport the vaccines? Most of them needs to be deep-frozen at <-70 degrees.
It is obviously a scam, the covid vaccine is probably the most sought item in the entire world right now so I will not be surprised that in many countries the vaccines are being guarded by police officers or even the army, very few of those vaccines will be stolen and even if criminals could get their hands on it that does not mean they have the necessary infrastructure to move them in a way for the vaccine to remain effective, but as you say it is possible the people that are buying this vaccine in the dark markets are already taking medicines from dubious merchants so they do not mind trying to get the vaccine in this way.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: jaysabi on December 15, 2020, 10:23:53 PM
We are thrilled to finally have covid-19 vaccines ready to be released on the market for the use of millions of people to prevent the virus. We are glad that the vaccines have been successful and some people have been injected as a test.

But what if even the vaccine that was really necessary for the safety of our health is fake? And you can buy it with your Bitcoin?

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A recent report by Checkpoint Research has shown there has been an alarming increase in the amount of fake COVID-19 vaccines available on the dark web. Anybody, who is able to solve the mystery of the dark web, can order and purchase these fake vaccines...but by paying in bitcoins.

The concept of paying through bitcoins, and not traditional money has made tracking these transactions harder for the experts.

"When researchers communicated with one vendor, they offered to sell an unspecified Covid-19 vaccine for 0.01 BTC (around US$300), and claimed that 14 doses were required.

These fake vaccines are being sold in the name of leading pharmaceuticals and are being priced for nearly $250 and above. "The range of medicines advertised by these vendors is extensive, from ‘available coronavirus vaccine $250’ to ‘Say bye bye to COVID19=CHLOROQUINE PHOSPHATE’ to ‘Buy fast.CORONA-VIRUS VACCINE IS OUT NOW’, and we have no way of knowing whether these are genuine," the post reads.

https://www.wionews.com/world/fake-covid-19-vaccines-surge-on-dark-web-research-349804

Paying bitcoin for the covid-19 vaccine is really good if it is not a fake vaccine and hopefully the government will allow it so that people who want to buy the vaccine have options.

Also, be careful everyone and be observant to avoid the fake vaccine because for sure it has a detrimental effect on our health.

Jesus christ, the people attempting to buy a vaccine on the dark web are getting exactly what they deserve- a dangerous concoction of god knows what with no oversight and no recourse if something goes wrong. You have to go far out of your way of common sense to even be in a position to be hurt from something like this, so anyone who is ultimately really earned it. 


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Fortify on December 15, 2020, 10:27:09 PM
At the end of the day, unless you are buying from a reputable medical institution then it is unlikely you will be able to get a real coronavirus vaccine and someone might be injecting you with any old rubbish. I don't know of any medical institutions that accept Bitcoin so you might as well give up on the idea and just wait in line to be notified by a government agency for when it is your turn. Stay safe, keep washing your hands regularly and wear a mask in any public indoor locations to lower your chance of catching it.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: milewilda on December 15, 2020, 10:30:34 PM
We are thrilled to finally have covid-19 vaccines ready to be released on the market for the use of millions of people to prevent the virus. We are glad that the vaccines have been successful and some people have been injected as a test.

But what if even the vaccine that was really necessary for the safety of our health is fake? And you can buy it with your Bitcoin?

Paying bitcoin for the covid-19 vaccine is really good if it is not a fake vaccine and hopefully the government will allow it so that people who want to buy the vaccine have options.

Also, be careful everyone and be observant to avoid the fake vaccine because for sure it has a detrimental effect on our health.

Typical thing to exist just like even with fiat transaction where everything can be faked and those sellers in Darknet had really came up with an idea on taking the advantage
of the current pandemic situation where they do claim out that they do have some vaccines and due to desperation then some people who do have bitcoins will really risk out
on buying those and if it turns out to be faked then you cant possibly go after with the seller since its anonymous.This is a common scenario where criminals do really
take advantage with anonymity or cant be traced up because even if they do illegal things they wont really be get imprisoned with that.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: jaysabi on December 15, 2020, 10:33:57 PM
At the end of the day, unless you are buying from a reputable medical institution then it is unlikely you will be able to get a real coronavirus vaccine and someone might be injecting you with any old rubbish. I don't know of any medical institutions that accept Bitcoin so you might as well give up on the idea and just wait in line to be notified by a government agency for when it is your turn. Stay safe, keep washing your hands regularly and wear a mask in any public indoor locations to lower your chance of catching it.

Exactly.  If someone is trying to sell you a vaccine for bitcoin, run-don't-walk in the other direction.  It is mind-numbingly easy to discern the difference from between a real vaccine distribution point and a scam one.  Your doctor - real vaccine.  Any place your doctor directs you to for the vaccine - real vaccine.  Eventually, CVS and Walgreens and other pharmacies will have the vaccine.  However, clicking on any ad on the internet about the vaccine - likely fake.  Any place that requires you to pay for the vaccine in cash or bitcoin - definitely fake.

This isn't rocket science.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: AmoreJaz on December 15, 2020, 10:37:19 PM
At the end of the day, unless you are buying from a reputable medical institution then it is unlikely you will be able to get a real coronavirus vaccine and someone might be injecting you with any old rubbish. I don't know of any medical institutions that accept Bitcoin so you might as well give up on the idea and just wait in line to be notified by a government agency for when it is your turn. Stay safe, keep washing your hands regularly and wear a mask in any public indoor locations to lower your chance of catching it.

pretty simple decision here. to avoid these fake sellers, just deal with authorised institutions only. you are already paying a hefty amount, why not approach legit medical institutions that are providing this vaccine? also, just convert your btc to your local fiat if they are not accepting crypto. wont be that hard. dont look for something that is not there.


Exactly.  If someone is trying to sell you a vaccine for bitcoin, run-don't-walk in the other direction.  It is mind-numbingly easy to discern the difference from between a real vaccine distribution point and a scam one.  Your doctor - real vaccine.  Any place your doctor directs you to for the vaccine - real vaccine.  Eventually, CVS and Walgreens and other pharmacies will have the vaccine.  However, clicking on any ad on the internet about the vaccine - likely fake.  Any place that requires you to pay for the vaccine in cash or bitcoin - definitely fake.

This isn't rocket science.

dont understand why people will go to these online scammers rather than deal with real doctors?


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: bayu7adi on December 16, 2020, 01:26:49 AM
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A recent report by Checkpoint Research has shown there has been an alarming increase in the amount of fake COVID-19 vaccines available on the dark web. Anybody, who is able to solve the mystery of the dark web, can order and purchase these fake vaccines...but by paying in bitcoins.
https://www.wionews.com/world/fake-covid-19-vaccines-surge-on-dark-web-research-349804

There is no problem in buying and selling goods with bitcoin, but....
It is highly discouraged to make transactions through unofficial and dangerous channels such as on the DarkWeb. The vaccine is not an ordinary cold medicine, but it is a liquid that will be injected into our bodies, mix with our blood, flesh and bones, react with the brain and other body organs.

Taking the risk of transacting on the darkweb just selfishly using Bitcoin as payment, is the most ridiculous thing to endanger yourself. This could be suicide.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: adzino on December 16, 2020, 06:26:01 AM
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A recent report by Checkpoint Research has shown there has been an alarming increase in the amount of fake COVID-19 vaccines available on the dark web. Anybody, who is able to solve the mystery of the dark web, can order and purchase these fake vaccines...but by paying in bitcoins.

The concept of paying through bitcoins, and not traditional money has made tracking these transactions harder for the experts.

"When researchers communicated with one vendor, they offered to sell an unspecified Covid-19 vaccine for 0.01 BTC (around US$300), and claimed that 14 doses were required.

These fake vaccines are being sold in the name of leading pharmaceuticals and are being priced for nearly $250 and above. "The range of medicines advertised by these vendors is extensive, from ‘available coronavirus vaccine $250’ to ‘Say bye bye to COVID19=CHLOROQUINE PHOSPHATE’ to ‘Buy fast.CORONA-VIRUS VACCINE IS OUT NOW’, and we have no way of knowing whether these are genuine," the post reads.

https://www.wionews.com/world/fake-covid-19-vaccines-surge-on-dark-web-research-349804

Paying bitcoin for the covid-19 vaccine is really good if it is not a fake vaccine and hopefully the government will allow it so that people who want to buy the vaccine have options.

Also, be careful everyone and be observant to avoid the fake vaccine because for sure it has a detrimental effect on our health.
Lmao. Are people this dumb to buy vaccine off the dark market? Why would someone even think of buying vaccines from the dark web when they will be available soon and for even cheaper price. Doesn't matter if it is genuine or fake, you just don't buy it off the dark market! You don't even know what's that vaccine made of. If its fake (which is almost highly likely) then you might end up injecting yourself with something pestilential. They maybe real too and stolen from the lab samples. But, they still haven't been approved so you never know whats going to happen to you until it happens!


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Janation on December 16, 2020, 06:47:26 AM
Why people need to buy vaccines when Govt will distribute them at a very low cost and even free in some countries. Also till now, two approved vaccines need certain conditions to preserve. Moderna’s vaccine requires minus 20-degree temperature and Pfizer and BioNTech’s vaccine needs minus 70 degrees temperature which even many countries don't have facilities to preserve. So how people will buy and preserve those vaccines.

Obviously most of them wanted to be the first ones.

They are desperate and I think even with the bitcoins they have to buy these fake vaccines, they should stop doing it. As they've said, it is not bad to buy using Bitcoin but they should also be careful as not all of these sources are authentic or legitimate, that is so dangerous.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: davis196 on December 16, 2020, 07:22:51 AM
Buying a COVID-19 vaccine online?Only retards can imagine such idea.I assume that the people,who want to buy coronavirus vaccines online are the same,who believe that 5G internet spreads the coronavirus. :(
Vaccines will be free and people won't have to pay for anything.Vaccination is voluntary and will remain voluntary.
Selling fake COVID-19 vaccines online is the most stupid scam I've seen so far.Unfortunately,the scammers have a wild imagination and we might witness even more retarded and stupid scams after this one.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Kakmakr on December 16, 2020, 07:47:18 AM
They are targeting the small group of conspiracy theorists out there that believe in some wild theory, that the Vaccine is some type of Nano tracking mechanism or a tool for mass surveillance. So by buying this from the "DarkWeb" ....they could administer this by themselves and not go through the official procedure where every dose of the Vaccine is linked to a specific person.   ::)

So buy buying this on the "Darkweb", you are supposedly invisible to any government that wants to use this to trace people or to gather their information.  :P


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: 20kevin20 on December 16, 2020, 08:05:12 AM
They are targeting the small group of conspiracy theorists out there that believe in some wild theory, that the Vaccine is some type of Nano tracking mechanism or a tool for mass surveillance. So by buying this from the "DarkWeb" ....they could administer this by themselves and not go through the official procedure where every dose of the Vaccine is linked to a specific person.   ::)

So buy buying this on the "Darkweb", you are supposedly invisible to any government that wants to use this to trace people or to gather their information.  :P
Even that falls short because the conspiracy basically says we're going to be injected with some nanoparticles that are supposedly inside the substance itself. Those who are against the vaccine will likely not want to be vaccinated whether it's from the dark market or not.

Like, if you are suspicious about the COVID vaccine then why the hell would you purchase one off the black markets, lol, at least the legit one has a label..

As for "paying in Bitcoins for fake vaccines", well, dark markets are likely never going to accept PayPal or VISA since they have a damn decentralized alternative. My gov has announced that the vaccine will be free to whoever wants it, so why even pay for it..


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Mauser on December 16, 2020, 09:53:05 AM
Don't trust any vaccines that are being sold online, the are all fake and scams. The vaccine is accessible by ordinary people as the purchases are done via governments in large quantity. Also there are special requirements to store the vaccine, if it would be sold via the postal services it would likely be ineffective.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Sirait on December 16, 2020, 12:23:09 PM
^ the president of my country openly said that he would free all vaccines for citizens. so that our citizens don't have to pay any money for vaccines. Be careful with those who sell the Covid 19 vaccine illegally because it will definitely endanger yourself.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: nemey on December 16, 2020, 12:30:33 PM
I myself am still very doubtful about the vaccine. Moreover, the Covid-19 virus, which is still a lot of questions. What is still a mystery actually really exists or is just a political trick. So to pay for the vaccine using Bitcoin, I will definitely never do it.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Sithara007 on December 16, 2020, 01:00:12 PM
Why people need to buy vaccines when Govt will distribute them at a very low cost and even free in some countries. Also till now, two approved vaccines need certain conditions to preserve. Moderna’s vaccine requires minus 20-degree temperature and Pfizer and BioNTech’s vaccine needs minus 70 degrees temperature which even many countries don't have facilities to preserve. So how people will buy and preserve those vaccines.

Eventually the government will distribute the vaccines for free, but it may take a lot of time. If you belong to a "low priority" demographic group and in case you are residing in a developed nations, then the chances are that you may need to wait until 2022 or even 2023 to get vaccinated. This scenario scares a lot of people, and that is why some of them are trying to purchase the vaccine from dark markets.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on December 16, 2020, 01:26:00 PM
It's great when everyone here understands the dangers of using a vaccine that fraudsters can distribute.
But let's not fool ourselves that the danger can be very great. This is a large criminal group that works in a very organized manner. It is no coincidence that Interpol warned law enforcement agencies in 194 countries of the impending danger.

“While governments are preparing to introduce vaccines, criminal organizations are planning to infiltrate or disrupt supply chains,” said Interpol Secretary General Jurgen Stock.

https://www.interpol.int/News-and-Events/News/2020/INTERPOL-warns-of-organized-crime-threat-to-COVID-19-vaccines


All kinds of "businessmen" who are not awarded with any moral qualities, having bought such fake vaccines, can organize a very high-quality theater, which will be presented to citizens as a supposedly official center.
Therefore, you are right, everyone who agrees to vaccinate themselves should very carefully check those whom they decide to trust.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: inanilujimi on December 16, 2020, 01:37:58 PM
It's not that I'm critical of buying vaccines with bitcoin, but if it's not the right thing who guarantees the safety of those who have used it?
Even in the country itself, there is a discourse about giving vaccines free of charge to the entire population, but if they themselves (the government) do not vaccinate first, why are we risking our lives? because life is not money that can be sought again when you don't have it.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: NeuroticFish on December 16, 2020, 01:46:47 PM
All kinds of "businessmen" who are not awarded with any moral qualities, having bought such fake vaccines, can organize a very high-quality theater, which will be presented to citizens as a supposedly official center.

I don't expect that such move would be profitable, since governments will probably give out the vaccines for free.
There's much more money into infiltrating into the supply chain and deliver the vaccines to the official institutions and getting paid for that.
Especially now, when every government is in a hurry to prove they care, mistakes or intentional (by bribery) infiltration can happen.

Also the dark web market, although I expect to be rather small (because the vaccine will come for free), it's still there. There are quite a number of desperate people(*), who want to go out and get back to "normal life" or their jobs/businesses and expect miracles from the vaccine. Those may try to buy in order to not have to wait and unfortunately those may get scammed big time.

(*) This is based on the news that in Japan, more people died from suicide last month than from Covid in all of 2020 (https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/28/asia/japan-suicide-women-covid-dst-intl-hnk/index.html).


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Noctis Connor on December 16, 2020, 01:47:24 PM
Who in their right minds would buy covid-19 vaccines on the black market? Even if it were the right product there's no way to know whether it's been stored appropiately. Even mail delivery times would already cause trouble, at least with the Biontech/Pfizer vaccine.

Also keep in mind that many governments are going to vaccinate their citizens for free (or at least especially affected people such as health care workers or people with pre-existing conditions).

Maybe their trying to make more money for this kind into black market and trying to fool people by ordering this vaccine for them to become the first to sell it, haven't you read the news that pfizer got hack? Source : https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-55249353 Maybe those hacker who did this and sold it.

We know that government are going to vaccinate their own people but other countries like mine you need to pay for the vaccine for $65Dollars this is insane and we will got our vaccine in Febuarary 2021 i hope our government will open their eyes not to sell this vaccine because of what people experienced because of this pandemic.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Casdinyard on December 16, 2020, 02:04:53 PM
Bit not surprising to know that Bitcoin is being linked with production or purchase of vaccines. These two are having  wide popularity this year and ofcourse there will be people who will take advantage of the situation because of money. I do believe that vaccine is already being Secretly distributed but only to those who are rich because they'll be the ones to be able to pay huge amount for the sake of assurance that in the first place, exclusivity will be promoted due to high demand of the vaccine. And for sure there are people who will use the popularity to make money out of the situation. Why Bitcoin? popularity could also be the factor but I think its decentralisation will be something as its introduction to those who are not really aware of its nature. Instances more likely states that transaction will not be traced so things will be under the table. Then those who can afford, will bite the opportunity. It is just a sad reality we are having that heirchy will be obvious during tough times.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: oHnK on December 16, 2020, 02:10:29 PM
Why people need to buy vaccines when Govt will distribute them at a very low cost and even free in some countries. Also till now, two approved vaccines need certain conditions to preserve. Moderna’s vaccine requires minus 20-degree temperature and Pfizer and BioNTech’s vaccine needs minus 70 degrees temperature which even many countries don't have facilities to preserve. So how people will buy and preserve those vaccines.
This scenario scares a lot of people, and that is why some of them are trying to purchase the vaccine from dark markets.

I think the reason behind buying vaccines on the dark web to getting fake vaccines is not an excuse because of the feeling of despair over the long distribution of free vaccines from the government. People who can access the dark web are not just anyone, those who can access are people who can decode special codes so they can enter the deepest parts of the internet.

The dark web is also not a trusted online shopping site, the dark web is a place for many crimes and illegal acts. How could someone who is desperate and in the category of ordinary people want to buy on the dark web? The purpose of the purchase is certain for other negative things because what it is aiming at is a hotbed of evil, and it's no wonder that Bitcoin is used in transactions because only Bitcoin transactions are difficult to trace.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on December 16, 2020, 04:11:30 PM
Though it wouldn't surprise me in the least if there were some morons offering a COVID-19 vaccine for sale on the dark net (I've never even visited that side of the internet, but I've heard plenty of stories), you'd have to be an even bigger moron to spend bitcoin to buy it that way.  It's so new that it isn't likely there's been much diverted from wherever it's being manufactured, and that's the only way I can think of that it'd end up for sale on the black market.  Much more likely whatever you receive (if you receive anything at all) is fake.

Is this a real thing or just news hype?  I'm betting it's actually the latter.  There's so much stupid fake news out there that you have to be exceedingly careful what you believe--and I have a hard time believing that this is actually happening outside of one or two cases.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on December 16, 2020, 04:50:56 PM
Jesus christ, the people attempting to buy a vaccine on the dark web are getting exactly what they deserve- a dangerous concoction of god knows what with no oversight and no recourse if something goes wrong. You have to go far out of your way of common sense to even be in a position to be hurt from something like this, so anyone who is ultimately really earned it. 

The government should make vaccines available to those, who desperately want to get vaccinated. If someone is willing to pay huge amounts, then why the governments should deny the request? They can use the money for vaccine development and to provide vaccines free of cost to those who can't afford them. But right now, the preference is being given to those who are above 80 years of age.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Cling18 on December 16, 2020, 07:22:52 PM
At the end of the day, unless you are buying from a reputable medical institution then it is unlikely you will be able to get a real coronavirus vaccine and someone might be injecting you with any old rubbish. I don't know of any medical institutions that accept Bitcoin so you might as well give up on the idea and just wait in line to be notified by a government agency for when it is your turn. Stay safe, keep washing your hands regularly, and wear a mask in any public indoor locations to lower your chance of catching it.

Buying vaccines from the black market isn't the right choice. We'll only waste our Bitcoins especially when it's fake. Instead of rushing to get the vaccine, we should just take the health protocols seriously. Let's wait for the International pharmaceutical to produce enough and legit vaccine for everyone. Being desperate to have the Covid 19 vaccine could only make our situations worse.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: shield132 on December 16, 2020, 07:47:25 PM
I don't really know what to say if that's truth. First of all, current vaccine was created by very talented and intelligent scientists and doctors and still, no one knows what will be the side effect of this vaccine on long term and people really risk their lives to inject something that was never really tested on side effects + do they really know what they inject? Maybe that's a poison? If people really sell similar things, I think websites should ban them and prohibit the selling of similar things (they did similar of it years ago on another substance). It's comes to our health, seriously, injection is very dangerous, especially when you don't know what you inject, what's the side effects of it. What if Anaphylaxis will happen? I don't know what these people really think about.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: hahay on December 16, 2020, 08:03:23 PM
If it says fake vaccines can only be obtained on the web or on the black market, then the next step to be avoided is enough for us to buy them from reliable sources. Because by visiting the web or the black market, basically, it has become something deviant, so why buy from an unclear source because even this is the beginning of the vaccine being released, even I personally am still not part of the vaccination participants. This is a moment where people will chase bitcoin because its price has passed the previous ATH, so be careful because moments like this are very risky if we are careless.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Shasha80 on December 16, 2020, 10:39:28 PM
In my opinion, regarding the COVID-19 vaccine, it is better to wait for the government to officially distribute it to the citizen.
Don't because you can't wait to finally buy a COVID-19 vaccine with Bitcoin on the black market, this will be very risky.
Because it is not certain that the COVID-19 vaccine we get is genuine, because I am sure pharmaceutical companies will be
very strict about distributing the COVID-19 vaccine. So it's better to be patient while waiting for the government to officially
launch the COVID-19 vaccine.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Sithara007 on December 17, 2020, 03:40:47 AM
Cannot imagine someones buy and sell covid-19 vaccines on black market by bitcoin. The supply of it is really small that isn't enough national demand, and however, it require preservation at special conditions that regular residents cannot response.

Even if there is enough supply, it is not strictly legal to sell vaccines, or any other prescription drug in the dark market. And vaccines are more risky when compared to the other medications, because if you take the wrong one then you may face all sorts of adverse side effects. But at the same time, what fuels this black market trade is the refusal by government to make the vaccine freely available at the market.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Lorence.xD on December 17, 2020, 08:23:16 AM
I do not get your point OP, are you against vaccine or do you want to integrate blockchain payment system to buy vaccines. Fake vaccines will definitely pop up but I do not think that will be a problem for many because only idiots will fall for that kind of scam, imagine buying some cocaine from a shady dealer only to find out that it is baking soda, that is what those people who will buy those "Real" vaccines will look like. Maybe a placebo effect might take place but considering the amount that you paid for, I do not think it is worth it.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Ucy on December 17, 2020, 10:27:30 AM
Today all we see is desperation & fear. most people don't mind buying the vaccine from dark or black market in course of trying to protect themselves and that of their love ones. It like an hungry person who does not really care about the  quality of food presented before him or her



The spreading of fear and panic especially when there is no need to is actually unfortunate. If those people who do this understand humans well enough, they wouldn't be doing it. It's more like an attack on people and society.
The situation should be handled in a safe and reasonable way that does create more problems for societies.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Chrystora123 on December 17, 2020, 10:31:25 AM
it was definitely a fake vaccine sale.  I visited the Dark Web several times through the tor network, not as scary as many people say (lots of spy etc), I saw many sites that offer the sale of hacking services, drug trafficking, weapons, and several others.  For the sale of vaccines through the Dark web, you should not believe it because until now we do not know vaccines from where countries are effective for the human body..


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: jademaxsuy on December 17, 2020, 10:31:43 AM
It seems like bitcoin is really possible to use a a mode of payment but we know how centralized system work. It is still fiat currency to be favorable as a means of transaction because of its stable value compared to bitcoin. Bitcoin is good but for the mean time I think not ideal to spend bitcoin especially that we are already havng a bullish trend in its market price. So I doubt that many will going to use bitcoin as a means of payment.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Gyfts on December 17, 2020, 10:31:52 AM
It's going to be interesting whether there's going to be scalpers. Safe storage and logistics are a huge concern and I do believe that until production ramps up vaccine distribution and access is going to be closely monitored; making it rather difficult to get illegitimate access to vaccines on a business scale, except maybe in the most corrupt of countries.

Scalpers depend on what country you're from honestly. Plenty of people in the U.S. are in no rush to take the vaccine. Something like 50 percent said they wouldn't take it, another percentage said they would take but would wait.

Realistically, vaccines need to be targeted to people with preexisting conditions and the demand for the vaccine doesn't seem all there.


Source?

Given the controversy that the vaccines seem to cause in some circles there's going to be a lot of misinformation incoming, especially ones disavowing the vaccine like they did 5G. While studies on the long term effects are still out (for obvious reason, after all the vaccines are rather new) the immediate post vaccination side effects seem to be greatly exaggerated. Or put differently, they seem to be "not worse than a flu", to quote one of the dumbest sentences of 2020. Except true this time. Hopefully.

What worries me though is that while the current generation of covid-19 vaccines seem to be effective enough in terms of immunization, vaccinated individuals still appear to be contagious to some degree, even if they don't have symptoms. Accordingly building up herd immunity is likely to be harder than anticipated, at least until other vaccines come out.


Apparently you are usually clear 8-10 days following the second dosage of the vaccine. Can't remember the exact time frame, but it's a few weeks before you need to get the second dosage according to Pfizer (which is the major vaccine being rolled out). So realistically the pandemic won't even be over until the vast majority of people get their second shot of the vaccine.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Latviand on December 17, 2020, 02:48:22 PM
Also keep in mind that many governments are going to vaccinate their citizens for free (or at least especially affected people such as health care workers or people with pre-existing conditions).

Governments are the one that should be responsible towards its citizen's safety and health.

Especially how about those people who can't afford the vaccine? Probably the authorities will not leave them behind.

I think that some governments will allocate a proper budget for that and they will distribute it as soon as possible so that we can somehow full go back to normal. Also those are the taxes of people so the government is accountable for that budget and stop their corruption plan first.

No matter what kind of currency they use, because there are countries who still don't want to adopt bitcoin.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: SquallLeonhart on December 17, 2020, 02:53:31 PM
Honestly I wouldn't even consider that as an option. Who would be stupid enough to buy covid vaccine off dark web? Don't get me wrong I am not saying dark web is useless, there are some stuff you or someone else may want to buy there, I have no use for it but I am not against it neither. However one thing is for sure that I wouldn't get something this incredibly important as a purchase from dark web.

If you really want to, wait for it to come out, do not leave house, if you have to just wear your masks and everything, be careful, and when the time comes go to a hospital to get it done and you will be fully ready. Otherwise whatever you are buying, even if it is the real one, how could you get it and then get it done yourself? You wouldn't even know if it is fake or not.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: sapnu on December 17, 2020, 03:20:33 PM
Honestly I wouldn't even consider that as an option. Who would be stupid enough to buy covid vaccine off dark web? Don't get me wrong I am not saying dark web is useless, there are some stuff you or someone else may want to buy there, I have no use for it but I am not against it neither. However one thing is for sure that I wouldn't get something this incredibly important as a purchase from dark web.

If you really want to, wait for it to come out, do not leave house, if you have to just wear your masks and everything, be careful, and when the time comes go to a hospital to get it done and you will be fully ready. Otherwise whatever you are buying, even if it is the real one, how could you get it and then get it done yourself? You wouldn't even know if it is fake or not.
Indeed, don't trust those vaccines that are being sold on the internet, you don't know if that is legit. There are really things that you can buy there, but not the one that you risk your own life by taking it, not only that but also your money is at risk. It is really commended to wait for the government to give some of that, even if that is too pricey. Or just wait for the private hospitals or sectors that sell the vaccine, the one that is legit and is approved by the health organization of your country.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: bitzizzix on December 17, 2020, 03:43:48 PM
Honestly I wouldn't even consider that as an option. Who would be stupid enough to buy covid vaccine off dark web? Don't get me wrong I am not saying dark web is useless, there are some stuff you or someone else may want to buy there, I have no use for it but I am not against it neither. However one thing is for sure that I wouldn't get something this incredibly important as a purchase from dark web.

If you really want to, wait for it to come out, do not leave house, if you have to just wear your masks and everything, be careful, and when the time comes go to a hospital to get it done and you will be fully ready. Otherwise whatever you are buying, even if it is the real one, how could you get it and then get it done yourself? You wouldn't even know if it is fake or not.
Indeed, don't trust those vaccines that are being sold on the internet, you don't know if that is legit. There are really things that you can buy there, but not the one that you risk your own life by taking it, not only that but also your money is at risk. It is really commended to wait for the government to give some of that, even if that is too pricey. Or just wait for the private hospitals or sectors that sell the vaccine, the one that is legit and is approved by the health organization of your country.
Buying vaccines over the internet or the black market does not guarantee the truth, and there is a big risk that the vaccines are fake and also lose your money or bitcoins.
It is best to wait for a government decision until the vaccine is released and tested for accuracy by experts, and as long as the vaccine is not yet available it must follow health protocols and government regulations that must be implemented.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: oHnK on December 17, 2020, 04:04:16 PM
There's so much stupid fake news out there that you have to be exceedingly careful what you believe--and I have a hard time believing that this is actually happening outside of one or two cases.

News related to fake vaccines that are widely sold on the dark web have often appeared in my country's news notifications.  I don't think this is fake news, the dark web sells a lot of illegal goods around the world, from illegal weapons, organs, fetish porn videos, and even human trafficking.  Those are some of the items sold on darkweb, which I often read.  However, for the common man, who would buy them all?  Yes, the fact is that many buy it on the dark web and most of them have a negative purpose as well.  Whoever you intend to buy a vaccine on the dark web, think again because the dark web is a place for scammers and illegal things.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: ecnalubma on December 17, 2020, 04:31:45 PM
Buying vaccines through unauthorised dealers will put yourself in danger. Who would dare to inject themselves with vaccines came from nowhere? Why need to rush to get injected with these vaccines? If the vaccines will start to inoculate I’d rather wait for few months before taking it, because we can’t a 100% sure even if it came from legit source if its safe.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Janation on December 18, 2020, 02:45:48 AM
Jesus christ, the people attempting to buy a vaccine on the dark web are getting exactly what they deserve- a dangerous concoction of god knows what with no oversight and no recourse if something goes wrong. You have to go far out of your way of common sense to even be in a position to be hurt from something like this, so anyone who is ultimately really earned it. 

The government should make vaccines available to those, who desperately want to get vaccinated. If someone is willing to pay huge amounts, then why the governments should deny the request? They can use the money for vaccine development and to provide vaccines free of cost to those who can't afford them. But right now, the preference is being given to those who are above 80 years of age.

And the ones that can afford it, I guess.

Here in our country, swab tests are so expensive and the government is requiring some to do these tests just so they can go home while there are a lot of these people that just go back and forth without requiring these papers. Then this vaccine which is quite expensive will not be given for free? I feel bad for those poor old people.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Sithara007 on December 18, 2020, 03:45:19 AM
And the ones that can afford it, I guess.

Here in our country, swab tests are so expensive and the government is requiring some to do these tests just so they can go home while there are a lot of these people that just go back and forth without requiring these papers. Then this vaccine which is quite expensive will not be given for free? I feel bad for those poor old people.

Here in India, swab tests can cost anywhere from $15 to $30 per person, which makes it unaffordable to a large section of the population. But if you want to do inter-state travel, then it is mandatory to get a swab test and you need tp show the report at the border check-post. But from what I heard, the vaccine is going to be free of cost in India. The only question is regarding supply and timeline.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on December 18, 2020, 04:08:47 AM
If you're trying to spread antivaxx propaganda in this forum then keep dreaming buddy. Your common sense already would defeat your argument in and of itself without the need for rebuttals and all. WHY WOULD YOU BUY VACCINES FROM AN UNREPUTABLE SOURCE?
It just does not add up, and it doesn't make sense for world governments and healtg departments to buy vaccines that have not passed their screening and clinical trials, so I'm not sure where you are pulling this argument out of.
Buying vaccines through unauthorised dealers will put yourself in danger. Who would dare to inject themselves with vaccines came from nowhere? Why need to rush to get injected with these vaccines? If the vaccines will start to inoculate I’d rather wait for few months before taking it, because we can’t a 100% sure even if it came from legit source if its safe.
Exactly, from the sound of it, these guys are just spreading propaganda to spread fear among people regarding vaccines and vaccinating themselves in general. It's not only stupid and weird but it is also dangerous as you're risking the health of everyone around you for not vaccinating yourself.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Janation on December 18, 2020, 04:50:27 AM
And the ones that can afford it, I guess.

Here in our country, swab tests are so expensive and the government is requiring some to do these tests just so they can go home while there are a lot of these people that just go back and forth without requiring these papers. Then this vaccine which is quite expensive will not be given for free? I feel bad for those poor old people.

Here in India, swab tests can cost anywhere from $15 to $30 per person, which makes it unaffordable to a large section of the population. But if you want to do inter-state travel, then it is mandatory to get a swab test and you need tp show the report at the border check-post. But from what I heard, the vaccine is going to be free of cost in India. The only question is regarding supply and timeline.

Hope it would also be free in our country.

Those people I am saying are those people that are working in cities going home to their provinces. They are required to undergo swab tests which I do understand but them not being able to provide is just painful to see since these people are not that rich, in fact, most of them doesn't have a job for months because of the pandemic and then they are required to undergo while they can't afford it.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Leviathan.007 on December 18, 2020, 12:50:28 PM
People should not trust in darkweb and blackmarket to buy such thing. Even on clear net and more trusted places there are many people selling fake vaccines, some frauds are receiving money from people and doing fake pre sale for the vaccines which different prices. I saw a website pre-selling each doze for 500 usd and just imagine of they get only 100 people into the trap how much money they can earn. Some people reported they will never send any vaccines but that's the good point thing goes even worst when you hear they send fake vaccines with unknown side effects to people.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: FlightyPouch on December 18, 2020, 01:00:19 PM
If I have a huge amount of money, I don't think I would be putting that into Covid-19 vaccines that could be fake. Why not just directly request for it? The black market is not that trustworthy to start with and we are buying a vaccine that we will be injecting into our family or ourselves, at least put a lot of thought about it.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: sarmrakib on December 18, 2020, 02:19:15 PM
So far, we don't know which vaccine is really safe and effective. For me, the only hope for a vaccine to be authentic is a vaccine that is circulated with government intervention. because they certainly guarantee the safety of the vaccine.
Yes right i always keeping eye to the update news of the world if any vaccine is been invented .There is no vaccine is recognized by WHO that helps to fight against the virus .Most of the vaccine are on different stage so that we need to become patient and wait for the announcement by WHO .He/She offering this services are looking to scam or fraud so be careful on that .


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on December 18, 2020, 05:03:31 PM
Hope it would also be free in our country.

Those people I am saying are those people that are working in cities going home to their provinces. They are required to undergo swab tests which I do understand but them not being able to provide is just painful to see since these people are not that rich, in fact, most of them doesn't have a job for months because of the pandemic and then they are required to undergo while they can't afford it.

How can it be conducted for free?

There are different types of tests to detect Coronavirus, and the cheapest of them can cost as much as $10-$20. Now this test needs to be conducted for millions of people. If the government doesn't have enough funds, then the only option is to make the general population pay for it. Yes.. it is tough since a lot of them are unemployed right now. But what are the other options?


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Issa56 on December 18, 2020, 07:56:30 PM
Why will you have to buy a vaccine from unreliable source!!! Vaccine that have not been confirmed by the WHO, why will you buy this kind of medication online and you even have to pay with bitcoin, Guys pls be careful.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: FlightyPouch on December 18, 2020, 11:01:19 PM
Why will you have to buy a vaccine from unreliable source!!! Vaccine that have not been confirmed by the WHO, why will you buy this kind of medication online and you even have to pay with bitcoin, Guys pls be careful.

As said in the previous posts, and I agree with it because people wanted and they are so desperate with the vaccine. Maybe most of them can't wait to get the vaccine because they are not the ones being prioritized. I mean, it is really dumb buying vaccines in the black market. Who even knows where that vaccine came from?


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: AndySt on December 18, 2020, 11:59:41 PM
Why will you have to buy a vaccine from unreliable source!!! Vaccine that have not been confirmed by the WHO, why will you buy this kind of medication online and you even have to pay with bitcoin, Guys pls be careful.
usually people who are desperate to buy a vaccine like that are people who don't think much of the future because they are too depressed by the worsening virus condition that is happening around them so they can't think clearly for that for those of you who can think as clearly as possible not to affected by fake vaccines and as much as possible to keep the condition do not come into contact with other people so that it can keep yourself safe.
The situation with the covid pandemic is certainly getting worse, but this should not be a reason to fall for the bait of scammers. Lack of patience and naivety can lead to a useless loss of funds, so the authorities of states should strengthen both the campaign to inform the population about the danger of such scams, and strengthen the fight against scammers. And then at times it seems that all the energy of the state machine is spent on the fight against violators of quarantine measures.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Sithara007 on December 19, 2020, 03:37:01 AM
As said in the previous posts, and I agree with it because people wanted and they are so desperate with the vaccine. Maybe most of them can't wait to get the vaccine because they are not the ones being prioritized. I mean, it is really dumb buying vaccines in the black market. Who even knows where that vaccine came from?

It is a dumb move to purchase vaccines from the black market. But I can understand why people are getting more desperate. Till now, more than 1.6 million people have lost their lives to COVID 19. But if you are outside a high-priority demographic group, then you may not receive the vaccine before 2022. The government is prioritizing those with comorbidities, and those above 80 years of age. A lot of the deaths have occurred outside these two groups, and therefore I can understand the desperation being shown by them.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Janation on December 19, 2020, 04:28:55 AM
Hope it would also be free in our country.

Those people I am saying are those people that are working in cities going home to their provinces. They are required to undergo swab tests which I do understand but them not being able to provide is just painful to see since these people are not that rich, in fact, most of them doesn't have a job for months because of the pandemic and then they are required to undergo while they can't afford it.

How can it be conducted for free?

There are different types of tests to detect Coronavirus, and the cheapest of them can cost as much as $10-$20. Now this test needs to be conducted for millions of people. If the government doesn't have enough funds, then the only option is to make the general population pay for it. Yes.. it is tough since a lot of them are unemployed right now. But what are the other options?

I know that.

But what about those that can't actually afford those vaccines? If they can't afford it then just focus on those poor and older people that needs it. Let the others that can buy it pay for it, that easy. There are a lot of programs here in our country to identify those people that is poor so I don't see any reasons for them to find a way for these poor people.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on December 19, 2020, 07:23:26 AM
I know that.

But what about those that can't actually afford those vaccines? If they can't afford it then just focus on those poor and older people that needs it. Let the others that can buy it pay for it, that easy. There are a lot of programs here in our country to identify those people that is poor so I don't see any reasons for them to find a way for these poor people.

In the end, agencies such as UN may make these vaccines available for free to the poor nations. But it may happen only after the entire population in the US and the other developed nations get vaccinated completely. For these nations, the vaccination program may not get completed until 2022-23. But with the delay, the number of new infections and deaths are going to mount.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Strongkored on December 19, 2020, 08:56:51 AM
My country has announced that the vaccine will be given free to all of the citizen, just waiting for its implementation but I know this will also be misused by officials with a corrupt mentality.
Those who buy fake vaccines on the dark web are people who have more money to spent it, unlike most people with limited income who don't even know about the dark web.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: acener on December 19, 2020, 09:16:39 AM
This is what the government and people are scared of I know that soon there would be a fake vaccine and fake medicine for covid19 since every one is scared of it,
But is it enough for the people to deceive other knowing that their life is at stake?
Wouldn't it be consider as killing if the person died due to taking those fake drugs?


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Mauser on December 19, 2020, 09:28:56 AM
Guys, don't buy any vaccine for the corona virus. They are all fake. The vaccine is not sold to regular people, it can't be legit. The big pharma companies are just at the beginning of mass producing the vaccine, the demand is so high and the supply is very limited. All the payments and trades are done via the governments. The only way we can get the vaccine is through the government and offical testing facilities. Don't waste your hard earned money with scammers please. These scammers belong in prison.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: shoreno on December 19, 2020, 09:35:12 AM
This is what the government and people are scared of I know that soon there would be a fake vaccine and fake medicine for covid19 since every one is scared of it,

that is expected already because the world is looking for it and scammers are seeing this as a motivation to create a copy to make money . if you expect it you wont be scared of it because you wont just buy it somewhere but im afraid of those other people that are doing anything to get this vaccine .

But is it enough for the people to deceive other knowing that their life is at stake?
Wouldn't it be consider as killing if the person died due to taking those fake drugs?
selling fake medicine or vaccine is dangerous and it can result for someones death if they have a weak immune system but criminals wont care for this as long as they can make money  .


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: sana54210 on December 19, 2020, 11:11:35 AM
There are tons of people who got scammed back in silkroad times as well. This is a whole another subject obviously because the thing you are trying to buy here should be something that would save you from dying, back in the day people did the reverse, they were spending money on things that would kill them so nobody really cared about the scammer.

If you are out there trying to find a darknet website that would sell you drugs that would eventually kill you, and instead of getting dangerous drugs (and just some some weed or something, I mean meth and worse) I am not really that upset about you not getting anything at all, I would be on contrary a bit happy that now you do not have the money to buy the drugs and also do not have the drugs as well. But the idea of scamming people on darknets has been a thing for over a decade.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on December 19, 2020, 11:20:18 AM
My country has announced that the vaccine will be given free to all of the citizen, just waiting for its implementation but I know this will also be misused by officials with a corrupt mentality. Those who buy fake vaccines on the dark web are people who have more money to spent it, unlike most people with limited income who don't even know about the dark web.

In almost all the countries, the vaccines will be distributed for free of cost. Here in India also, the announcement has been made. So the affordability is not an issue, as the government is picking up the price tag. But the real issue is with the delay in distribution. Health workers, elderly and those with comorbidity are given preference for vaccination. If you are outside these groups, then you may need to wait for another 1-2 years. And this is the reason why so many people are trying to obtain vaccines from illegal sources.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: pecson134 on December 19, 2020, 11:34:33 AM
Even the vaccines that were officially released had still some issues with regards to its potency and side and adverse effect. So the chances on having the vaccine on black market yields would pose a much larger risk since you don't know if it the really vaccine or fake and we can't tell the exact effect it may do to our body.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Raflesia on December 19, 2020, 02:45:59 PM
My country has announced that the vaccine will be given free to all of the citizen, just waiting for its implementation but I know this will also be misused by officials with a corrupt mentality. Those who buy fake vaccines on the dark web are people who have more money to spent it, unlike most people with limited income who don't even know about the dark web.

In almost all the countries, the vaccines will be distributed for free of cost. Here in India also, the announcement has been made. So the affordability is not an issue, as the government is picking up the price tag. But the real issue is with the delay in distribution. Health workers, elderly and those with comorbidity are given preference for vaccination. If you are outside these groups, then you may need to wait for another 1-2 years. And this is the reason why so many people are trying to obtain vaccines from illegal sources.

It would be terrible if it was misused by irresponsible people even from the government, but we all know that the synovac vaccine from China has arrived in various countries but I still lack confidence because from the government I still continue to test its feasibility for use In everyone who gets injected however, there is good news too that the first president was to be the first to be given the vaccine to entrust the public about the dangers or not.
But I am honest if my fitness is good then I will not get vaccinated even though it's free.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: meanwords on December 19, 2020, 05:11:24 PM
I don't get it though, what do you expect from an unknown seller in the dark web? but the most questionable part is, who's buying this!? I mean it can't be the common people since most don't even know how to enter the dark web. It's probably some rich dudes who wants to try their luck or desperate enough to actually buy this vaccines.

This is kinda dangerous though because the fact that it's from unknown source, these vaccines are most likely not safe.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: zasad@ on December 19, 2020, 09:38:30 PM
https://metro.co.uk/2020/12/19/coronavirus-uk-boris-to-hold-emergency-cabinet-meeting-today-13776673/

Scientists in the UK have identified a new strain of the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2.
To be honest, vaccine testers are paid money to do this, so it's very strange that people are willing to buy unknown drugs on the Internet.
Can anyone explain how the vaccine works? How long does the vaccine protect against disease or serious consequences?


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: FlightyPouch on December 19, 2020, 09:42:10 PM
As said in the previous posts, and I agree with it because people wanted and they are so desperate with the vaccine. Maybe most of them can't wait to get the vaccine because they are not the ones being prioritized. I mean, it is really dumb buying vaccines in the black market. Who even knows where that vaccine came from?

It is a dumb move to purchase vaccines from the black market. But I can understand why people are getting more desperate. Till now, more than 1.6 million people have lost their lives to COVID 19. But if you are outside a high-priority demographic group, then you may not receive the vaccine before 2022. The government is prioritizing those with comorbidities, and those above 80 years of age. A lot of the deaths have occurred outside these two groups, and therefore I can understand the desperation being shown by them.

With a lot of cases happening all over the world, the demand is so high while the supply is so small. I hope the production would be faster for all the people to have the vaccine. Now that we have the vaccine, the only problem now is for the vaccine to be mass produced. I do understand their desperation but I hope that they can still wait, I know it takes a lot of patience but it is needed.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Rengga Jati on December 19, 2020, 10:15:50 PM
Covid-19 vaccines on the dark web? How can we ensure that it is original or fake?
Moreover, vaccines cost expensive.
Well,
personally, I will not take the vaccine if it is so. I will prefer to wait for the official announcement and also vaccines by the government. It is not only about the way to buy the vaccine using Bitcoin but also the big news about the price of the vaccine. We must pay high for an uncertain vaccine Lol


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Hamphser on December 19, 2020, 10:36:00 PM
Covid-19 vaccines on the dark web? How can we ensure that it is original or fake?
Moreover, vaccines cost expensive.
Well,
personally, I will not take the vaccine if it is so. I will prefer to wait for the official announcement and also vaccines by the government. It is not only about the way to buy the vaccine using Bitcoin but also the big news about the price of the vaccine. We must pay high for an uncertain vaccine Lol

You would really be expecting these kind of sales in Darkweb and from that place alone then you can really have doubts if those were legit or not.
It doesn't really need to be that expensive for those legit vaccines to come out because not all would really able to benefit that out in case if theres
some huge distribution.It might sound dumb but there are people who do lurk into DW and do tend to make use of their coins on buying out those
vaccines.Its just because out of desperation or do simply make out  some useless purchase? As a human being its just normal for us to have some
common sense when it comes on purchasing something specially if it connects with health issues.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Yatsan on December 19, 2020, 11:40:49 PM
People must be out of their minds and that is maybe because they were already driven by desperation to believe that such vaccine being sold in the dark web is a legit and an effective vaccine. It is impossible for them to have the true vaccine for the fact that Pfizer is the one facilitating the distribution of the vaccine to many countries as planned for the mass usage of the created vaccine with 95% efficiency. Well, if there is a chance that the dark web do really have some legit vaccine then it is expected to be sold on a very expensive price and those who are really desperate would acquire such vaccine even if it is sold in terms of Bitcoin. But they must still think of the legibility of the vaccine being sold in that platform for the legit ones are still under distribution process. Better just wait for those rather than risking your life on fake vaccines because source is not known as well as legibility of it.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Sithara007 on December 20, 2020, 03:50:21 AM
But I am honest if my fitness is good then I will not get vaccinated even though it's free.

That is going to be the wrong strategy, I am afraid. The fatality rate is low for healthy people who are below 40-50 years of age, but it is not zero. In most of the countries, the fatality rate for this demographic group is around 0.1%, i.e one in thousand. So you can't say that you are safe from COVID 19. If you contract the virus, then there is a real chance that you may get seriously ill. I would recommend undergoing vaccination, irrespective of the age and presence of comorbidity.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Gyfts on December 20, 2020, 04:43:33 AM
https://metro.co.uk/2020/12/19/coronavirus-uk-boris-to-hold-emergency-cabinet-meeting-today-13776673/

Scientists in the UK have identified a new strain of the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2.
To be honest, vaccine testers are paid money to do this, so it's very strange that people are willing to buy unknown drugs on the Internet.
Can anyone explain how the vaccine works? How long does the vaccine protect against disease or serious consequences?

Vaccine works by having your normal cells produce proteins that are similar to the proteins present on the SARS-COV-2 virus. It's an mRNA virus, and mRNA is the intermediate between DNA and the final proteins produced by your body.

Since the proteins are foreign, the immune system will attack them and produce antibodies for any future spike proteins of SARS-COV-2.

Problem is, a mutation, could render the vaccine if the mutation causes vastly different spike proteins to be expressed. The vaccine is based on targeting the spike proteins.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: bearexin on December 20, 2020, 08:14:51 AM
Why would anyone be buying their covid19 vaccines from a dark web when you already know how bad the people on the dark web can be. If you’re going to buy vaccines from anyone it should be from organizations that are well recognized and also allowed by the government to create and sell such a vaccine, and not just some people on the dark web that keeps on hiding their identity.

By buying from you don’t know at all you’re taking a huge risk, you don’t even know what was mixed in what you’re building and it can be some kind of substance that are harmful to your health


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on December 20, 2020, 12:43:07 PM
Why would anyone be buying their covid19 vaccines from a dark web when you already know how bad the people on the dark web can be. If you’re going to buy vaccines from anyone it should be from organizations that are well recognized and also allowed by the government to create and sell such a vaccine, and not just some people on the dark web that keeps on hiding their identity.

By buying from you don’t know at all you’re taking a huge risk, you don’t even know what was mixed in what you’re building and it can be some kind of substance that are harmful to your health

Purchasing prescription drugs from the dark market is not a new phenomenon. Drug prices are extremely high in the United States, due to FDA regulations. The same drug, which may cost $0.10 per pill in Canada may be sold at $5.00 per pill in the United States. And this has forced many Americans to actually travel to Canada or Mexico so that they could purchase cheap drugs. Those who don't want to travel purchase them from various dark markets. But then, purchasing unapproved vaccines using these sites involves a lot of risk.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: South Park on December 20, 2020, 09:02:21 PM
Buying vaccines through unauthorised dealers will put yourself in danger. Who would dare to inject themselves with vaccines came from nowhere? Why need to rush to get injected with these vaccines? If the vaccines will start to inoculate I’d rather wait for few months before taking it, because we can’t a 100% sure even if it came from legit source if its safe.
While I completely agree with you and I will never do something like that, the fact that there is a market for that suggests that there are people that are willing to do it, but who will? Exactly the kind of person that has spent months or even years buying from those kind of markets different drugs and taking them without worrying about whether the product that they were sold is what they were told, in that case those are kind of people who probably have no problem applying that fake vaccine to themselves.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Wawa2013 on December 20, 2020, 10:42:18 PM
I am sure there are many fake COVID19 vaccines currently circulating, because scammers see that the demand for the vaccines is so high.
Certainly making scammers take advantage of this situation by selling the fake COVID19 vaccine on the dark web or on various market place
platforms. So I suggest you don't buy the COVID19 vaccine in a place that the government does not recommend, because to my knowledge
the COVID19 vaccine is not sold freely. Must buy from places that have been determined by the government, to ensure its safety.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Fatunad on December 20, 2020, 11:11:49 PM
I am sure there are many fake COVID19 vaccines currently circulating, because scammers see that the demand for the vaccines is so high.
Certainly making scammers take advantage of this situation by selling the fake COVID19 vaccine on the dark web or on various market place
platforms. So I suggest you don't buy the COVID19 vaccine in a place that the government does not recommend, because to my knowledge
the COVID19 vaccine is not sold freely. Must buy from places that have been determined by the government, to ensure its safety.

There's still no vaccine until now or in short it isnt really finalized yet but good thing that they are already in the final phases before it would be mass produce.
You know that there would be people who would took advantage into this current pandemic and the main needed now is the vaccine.So its just normal for
them to use up things which are been desperately needed by some people even on what means.To think up carefully that it wont really be that safe
on getting those vaccine shots came from darknet which you wouldnt even know if its effective or highly dangerous instead.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: AndySt on December 20, 2020, 11:24:57 PM
While I completely agree with you and I will never do something like that, the fact that there is a market for that suggests that there are people that are willing to do it, but who will? Exactly the kind of person that has spent months or even years buying from those kind of markets different drugs and taking them without worrying about whether the product that they were sold is what they were told, in that case those are kind of people who probably have no problem applying that fake vaccine to themselves.
That is, you want to say that some people are ready to constantly be deceived by not reacting very critically to any high-profile offers on the Internet? Or do they simply have no idea about the product they are buying? I still think that scammers posting such ads on the Internet are like fishermen throwing their bait in the hope of biting. If there are buyers for such a product, this does not mean that such behavior is a system for such buyers and they constantly become a victim of scammers.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Sithara007 on December 21, 2020, 03:15:12 AM
I am sure there are many fake COVID19 vaccines currently circulating, because scammers see that the demand for the vaccines is so high.
Certainly making scammers take advantage of this situation by selling the fake COVID19 vaccine on the dark web or on various market place
platforms. So I suggest you don't buy the COVID19 vaccine in a place that the government does not recommend, because to my knowledge
the COVID19 vaccine is not sold freely. Must buy from places that have been determined by the government, to ensure its safety.

There are only some rumors that fake vaccines are made available through dark markets. I am yet to see any concrete proof regarding the same. But here in India, local quacks have been selling their own "anti-COVID 19" medications for some months now. These medicines are made from local herbs and those who are taking them have reported no additional immunity against the Coronavirus. Anyway, all this just proves that the pandemic has created a lot of opportunities for the scammers, to make some quick money.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: thesmallgod on December 21, 2020, 08:18:49 AM
because of some elements like those reported in this article https://financialpost.com/financial-times/vaccines-for-sale-on-dark-web-as-criminals-target-pandemic-profits I am not very sure accessing COVID19 vaccine using crypto will be very realistic remember the approved vaccines are still at the early stage of distribution and according to the UNICEF some pharm companies are already targeting over 2 billion dosage by 2021 https://www.unicef.org/supply/covid-19-vaccine-market-dashboard. In most cases, vaccines like this are closely monitored by the government and are likely to be delivered directly to them and not make available to a common man on the street. All dosage will be take charge by the government who in many countries will be free for all to get vaccinated or make affordable just like some of the previous vaccines such as polio vaccines etc


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on December 21, 2020, 11:43:21 AM
because of some elements like those reported in this article https://financialpost.com/financial-times/vaccines-for-sale-on-dark-web-as-criminals-target-pandemic-profits I am not very sure accessing COVID19 vaccine using crypto will be very realistic remember the approved vaccines are still at the early stage of distribution and according to the UNICEF some pharm companies are already targeting over 2 billion dosage by 2021 https://www.unicef.org/supply/covid-19-vaccine-market-dashboard. In most cases, vaccines like this are closely monitored by the government and are likely to be delivered directly to them and not make available to a common man on the street. All dosage will be take charge by the government who in many countries will be free for all to get vaccinated or make affordable just like some of the previous vaccines such as polio vaccines etc

It is true that the vaccines that are produced by multinational pharmaceutical giants such as Moderna, Pfizer and AstraZeneca will be delivered directly to the government agencies and they will not be available in the market. But the same can't be said about the vaccines from various manufacturers in China and Russia. I have strong suspicion that these vaccines may become available in the open market. The dark market listing which is mentioned by the OP involved vaccines from two Chinese companies - Sinopharm and Sinovac.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Sapphire915 on December 22, 2020, 01:05:43 AM
Who in their right minds would buy covid-19 vaccines on the black market? Even if it were the right product there's no way to know whether it's been stored appropiately. Even mail delivery times would already cause trouble, at least with the Biontech/Pfizer vaccine.

Also keep in mind that many governments are going to vaccinate their citizens for free (or at least especially affected people such as health care workers or people with pre-existing conditions).


Exactly. Though buying the covid-19 vaccines with Bitcoins are quite good and less hassle for me, but the thought of buying in the black market is really disgusting. No people in their right minds would dare to try this kind of clear scam, its really obvious. And yes, you are definitely right, the governments will take charge of everything about this vaccines and we just have to wait to be immunized for free instead of getting it for ourselves in a rush way, only to put our health more at risk. As for me, I would rather wait for the free vaccine from our Government for a sure result and I don't have any plan to spend my money and purchase it myself.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Sithara007 on December 22, 2020, 03:18:21 AM
Exactly. Though buying the covid-19 vaccines with Bitcoins are quite good and less hassle for me, but the thought of buying in the black market is really disgusting. No people in their right minds would dare to try this kind of clear scam, its really obvious. And yes, you are definitely right, the governments will take charge of everything about this vaccines and we just have to wait to be immunized for free instead of getting it for ourselves in a rush way, only to put our health more at risk. As for me, I would rather wait for the free vaccine from our Government for a sure result and I don't have any plan to spend my money and purchase it myself.

There are people who procure their anti-cancer and chemotherapy medications from the dark market. The reason is that in certain countries such as the United States, these drugs are extremely over-priced and kept out of reach of those who can't afford them. As a result dark market vendors procure these drugs from low cost countries such as India and Bangladesh, and then (illegibly) deliver them to clients in US and other developed nations. Even in this case, one of the vendor has stated that he has procured the vaccination from Chinese pharmaceutical companies where these drugs are manufactured.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Majharul Saiif on December 25, 2020, 06:28:26 PM
Could it be anything? Why buy a vaccine with bitcoin? It is prevailing shown in all the news that the legal vaccine will unhurriedly take off to all the countries and it will be authorized by the government. So considerably time has passed and we should pause patiently for some extra time. If you formulate such a foolish decision, you will flunk. So think twice before any action.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: GeorgeJohn on December 25, 2020, 07:12:44 PM
The news of corona virus vaccine is everywhere that covid19 vaccine has been released so buying a backyard vaccine from wrong source is not encouraging, I think everyone have to look up to the source and get it at appropriate source to avoid damage or harm in human organs, its obvious that medication of corona virus have to be taken step by step the way I'm seeing it will caused a serious harm if is not taking accord to its precautions.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: MCobian on December 25, 2020, 07:42:40 PM
It is very dangerous if we use fake COVID-19 vaccines, because the vaccine is injected into our body, so the impact will be bad
for our bodies if we use fake COVID-19 vaccines. Therefore, make sure to buy a vaccine from a trusted source, in this case we
buy directly from the hospital or from a government-approved company to sell a vaccine. Don't because there are parties that
offer a vaccine that we can buy with Bitcoin, then we are immediately interested in buying it without first checking whether
the vaccine is genuine or not.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: smyslov on December 26, 2020, 01:19:38 PM


It is true that the vaccines that are produced by multinational pharmaceutical giants such as Moderna, Pfizer and AstraZeneca will be delivered directly to the government agencies and they will not be available in the market. But the same can't be said about the vaccines from various manufacturers in China and Russia. I have strong suspicion that these vaccines may become available in the open market. The dark market listing which is mentioned by the OP involved vaccines from two Chinese companies - Sinopharm and Sinovac.

There's corruption in every industry I'm sure it will be available in the black market, people who can afford it but their country have a hard time obtaining the vaccine will try to obtain it in the black market even if the price is triple, these people will not wait because they have the money, and these people are coming from the rich sector of the society.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: pecson134 on December 26, 2020, 01:20:30 PM
It is very dangerous if we use fake COVID-19 vaccines, because the vaccine is injected into our body, so the impact will be bad
for our bodies if we use fake COVID-19 vaccines. Therefore, make sure to buy a vaccine from a trusted source, in this case we
buy directly from the hospital or from a government-approved company to sell a vaccine. Don't because there are parties that
offer a vaccine that we can buy with Bitcoin, then we are immediately interested in buying it without first checking whether
the vaccine is genuine or not.

The main problem here is the legitimacy of the vaccine if it is really the official one or a fraud. Usually on black market expect it to be extremely dangerous and unsafe since the origin was not stated. As for bitcoin as a means of paying bitcoin it can be a possible option due to social distancing policy.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: MUG1WARA on December 27, 2020, 02:37:06 PM
Even though the purchase of vaccines is made by paying for bitcoin, I will not buy it because I don't like and worry about the black market, the black market is no stranger to the mafia and of course the goods that are circulated will definitely not be 100% authentic.
But by the way I read the news if in January some countries will give free vaccines to everyone, one of the countries I remember is Canada, India and America


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Sithara007 on December 31, 2020, 03:57:19 AM
I am sure such vaccines exist. The question of their effectiveness remains open. I think those who have money buy such vaccines not on the black market, but through their connections with laboratories.
What is available at retail to ordinary people, with almost 90% certainty, will be a fake harmful to health. I have no doubt that there will be people ready to test this shit on themselves.

If you are a healthy individual in the sub-60 age group with no reported history of comorbidities, then under the current plan you need to wait for 6 to 12 months to get your vaccine. With COVID 19 infections and deaths (significant numbers reported among the low risk groups as well) creating new records, at least a section of the population are getting desperate. Some of them may go for illegal avenues, such as sourcing the vaccine from dark market.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Psynthax on January 01, 2021, 10:10:53 AM
Whoever buys this vaccine from some stranger need to get their head checked seriously. By buying this fake vaccine means they are risking their own life with whatever chemical substance in there and losing their money.
It doesnt take genius to figure out that this is a scam and very obvious on that not to mention a vaccine from a stranger people don't even know, heck even vaccine from big pharma company still need to undergo some tests.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Raflesia on January 01, 2021, 03:41:56 PM
I am sure such vaccines exist. The question of their effectiveness remains open. I think those who have money buy such vaccines not on the black market, but through their connections with laboratories.
What is available at retail to ordinary people, with almost 90% certainty, will be a fake harmful to health. I have no doubt that there will be people ready to test this shit on themselves.

If you are a healthy individual in the sub-60 age group with no reported history of comorbidities, then under the current plan you need to wait for 6 to 12 months to get your vaccine. With COVID 19 infections and deaths (significant numbers reported among the low risk groups as well) creating new records, at least a section of the population are getting desperate. Some of them may go for illegal avenues, such as sourcing the vaccine from dark market.

Whether it is possible they want to buy vaccines in illegal channels is very dangerous if they really get from the black market is very scary.

I saw from two versions.
First, there are those who don't want vaccines because they are afraid that the side effects that occur after being injected may they not want to be vaccinated in the near future it can make them stress.

second, if someone is already severe to infection, they always have a way to get an injection immediately so that they get well soon, so I am still confused about whether this vaccine really works for all of us if you get it for free?


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: bounceback on January 01, 2021, 06:00:52 PM
Still not believe with vaccine for covid 19 because I think not have any country success claimed with working progress for vaccine although right now almost country have beginning distribution vaccine without try first. Just free vaccine giving by government I don't wanna try how if vaccine have to pay with bitcoin, better left this asking when need to pay with bitcoin to get vaccine because you can get free from your government and I don't believe with vaccine will success or not.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: passwordnow on January 01, 2021, 06:30:24 PM
It is easy to avoid purchasing the fake vaccines. The government will announce places where you can buy the legit ones. And that's all you need to follow, whether they accept bitcoin or not.
You only just to look for those approved places to make sure that you won't be vaccinated with a fake or wrong one. But what if you guys wasn't contacted by anyone and never got the virus? you'll still get the vaccine? free or not.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Sithara007 on January 02, 2021, 04:41:13 AM
Whether it is possible they want to buy vaccines in illegal channels is very dangerous if they really get from the black market is very scary.

I saw from two versions.
First, there are those who don't want vaccines because they are afraid that the side effects that occur after being injected may they not want to be vaccinated in the near future it can make them stress.

second, if someone is already severe to infection, they always have a way to get an injection immediately so that they get well soon, so I am still confused about whether this vaccine really works for all of us if you get it for free?

Regarding the first part, phase III trials (which were conducted on tens of thousands of people) have shown that there is hardly any serious side effect from the vaccines. But we need to be cautious here, as many of the pharmaceutical companies decided to cut down the length of the trials.

And now coming to the second part, the vaccines are for preventing the infection, and not for the treatment of COVID 19. If you are already having the infection, then administering the vaccine is going to make the condition even worse (if you know how the vaccines work).

And finally, don't be stupid enough to believe that once you get vaccinated, there is no chance of getting infected. Even the most efficient COVID 19 vaccine has shown only 95% efficiency. That means that there is a 5% chance of getting infected even after your vaccination.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: magneto on January 03, 2021, 12:47:24 AM
I suspect that the mainstream media is going to have a field day with this one and somehow attribute the scam to Bitcoin itself.

This stuff is so obvious and I doubt that people would fall for it anyway (although you never know how stupid some people are). But just like ponzis, pyramids and other scams that accept BTC, it has nothing to do with bitcoin itself. Bitcoin is simply doing what it's supposed to do - facilitating transactions.

It's fallacious to argue that BTC is somehow at fault for these scams. There are probably a ton of other COVID related scams that use fiat cash, but only this goes to the press for its attention grabbing headline.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Furious 7 on January 03, 2021, 07:29:51 AM
It is easy to avoid purchasing the fake vaccines. The government will announce places where you can buy the legit ones. And that's all you need to follow, whether they accept bitcoin or not.
You only just to look for those approved places to make sure that you won't be vaccinated with a fake or wrong one. But what if you guys wasn't contacted by anyone and never got the virus? you'll still get the vaccine? free or not.
Isn't the vaccine distributed for free by the government and we are just waiting?
If we buy to be honest, I am more afraid even though it has been announced by the government, many people are worried about high prices and bitcoin is often misused and medical seems not supported by btc digital money.
maybe we need to go to the nearest hospital to confirm its authenticity.
AHh, I better wait from the government, which has been tested several times.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Psynthax on January 03, 2021, 08:22:29 AM
The news of corona virus vaccine is everywhere that covid19 vaccine has been released so buying a backyard vaccine from wrong source is not encouraging, I think everyone have to look up to the source and get it at appropriate source to avoid damage or harm in human organs, its obvious that medication of corona virus have to be taken step by step the way I'm seeing it will caused a serious harm if is not taking accord to its precautions.
when people about to take a vaccine they should consult to doctor aswell, it's just so wrong to buy a vaccine form dark web I mean even the scamming activity in the dark web said to be so rampant and people buying this like buying a candy. Honestly, if anything bad happens that's on them because rational mind would think twice because doing something like this.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Freeesta on January 03, 2021, 11:08:32 AM
I would not buy the COVID-19 vaccine with cryptocurrency, it seems very suspicious to me. It will be much easier to buy a vaccine in pharmacies or medical institutions, but as a last resort, order it online from trusted companies.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: bounceback on January 04, 2021, 05:03:17 PM
Vaccine still not selling to public just created and under government control right now, if you get banner ads about selling vaccine for covid 19 I think illegal vaccine and is not secure if you wanna try. I am waiting government announcement about vaccine will giving free or we have buy because so far just focus vaccine for medical healthy only and public people waiting for next round vaccine coming, I think is good choose because many medical healthy have pass away with their risk job.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: bryant.coleman on January 04, 2021, 05:38:36 PM
Vaccine still not selling to public just created and under government control right now, if you get banner ads about selling vaccine for covid 19 I think illegal vaccine and is not secure if you wanna try. I am waiting government announcement about vaccine will giving free or we have buy because so far just focus vaccine for medical healthy only and public people waiting for next round vaccine coming, I think is good choose because many medical healthy have pass away with their risk job.

Most of the distribution will be done by the government and therefore you won't be able to skip the queue. But I recently read a statement from John Skerritt. He was claiming that small number of vaccine vials may be made available privately. He didn't clarified how many doses will be available, or what will be the price tag. But for those who want to purchase the vaccine on their own, there is hope.

https://theconversation.com/you-may-be-able-to-buy-a-covid-vaccine-ahead-of-the-government-rollout-but-jumping-the-queue-comes-at-a-price-149972


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: raidarksword on January 05, 2021, 02:09:22 PM
There are rumors that vaccines are being sold in the black market and that really cost lots of money of what i heard in our local radio. Vaccines now are really vital and importance that really gave significance towards the existence of humanity. We cannot deny there are people to grab opportunities to scam people that's why we have to be more vigilant regarding this matter. Only the governments have the direct power to distribute and conduct vaccinations, so must wait for it to be available in our respective countries then.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: virasisog on January 05, 2021, 04:02:22 PM
The government should provide enough funds for the free vaccination of people and they should also make sure that to eliminate the possible existence of fake vaccines. Lots of us are still doubtful about the current vaccines so I hope that they would prove to us first their effectiveness so we won't put our lives at risk. I don't think buying vaccines through Bitcoin would be ideal because if that happens, it will surely be sold in black markets easily.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: mezzaluna on January 05, 2021, 06:06:27 PM
Also, be careful everyone and be observant to avoid the fake vaccine because for sure it has a detrimental effect on our health.

Having a fake vaccine is already one of the worst news that any country can have within their own country. The pandemic is already crippling a lot of people along with their jobs and businesses. Fake vaccines should be reported immediately because it can harm a lot of people. Buying it with bitcoin or cash is not even debatable because as long as it is fake, it is already useless.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: mezzaluna on January 05, 2021, 06:08:15 PM
The government should provide enough funds for the free vaccination of people and they should also make sure that to eliminate the possible existence of fake vaccines. Lots of us are still doubtful about the current vaccines so I hope that they would prove to us first their effectiveness so we won't put our lives at risk. I don't think buying vaccines through Bitcoin would be ideal because if that happens, it will surely be sold in black markets easily.

Some countries already have the funds ready to buy their stocks of vaccine from different suppliers. Its also good to see some countries helping other countries by creating the vaccines available as soon as possible. There are already some news of these vaccines being smuggled and used without authorization which sucks since unauthorized vaccines should be labeled as ILLEGAL DRUGS since its not approved by any government agencies.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Gozie51 on January 05, 2021, 07:29:05 PM

but as a last resort, order it online from trusted companies.

Lol but if you have online as the last resort to order for the vaccine you should also expect cryptocurrency to be included as option for payment means especially bitcoin. You see  ;D There is no way that you can escape bitcoin as means of payment when you are dealing online and currently, more institutions are also beginning to use it for transaction. So you need to move with the trend, if covid-19 vaccine are put online for sales you need to help yourself.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: lienfaye on January 05, 2021, 10:23:03 PM
Vaccine still not selling to public just created and under government control right now, if you get banner ads about selling vaccine for covid 19 I think illegal vaccine and is not secure if you wanna try. I am waiting government announcement about vaccine will giving free or we have buy because so far just focus vaccine for medical healthy only and public people waiting for next round vaccine coming, I think is good choose because many medical healthy have pass away with their risk job.
In our case it seems the vaccines are not arriving in the country yet as the government has no announcement or update about it. They're currently busy in different issues especially in incidents involving the police. The sad part is there are another variant of covid 19 that can spread easily if not controlled. Its like another season for lockdown and all.

Well I just hope the vaccines will become available in the market soon distributed by reliable drugstores so we can avoid fake vaccines like those available in the black market.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Sithara007 on January 06, 2021, 04:55:35 AM

but as a last resort, order it online from trusted companies.

Lol but if you have online as the last resort to order for the vaccine you should also expect cryptocurrency to be included as option for payment means especially bitcoin. You see  ;D There is no way that you can escape bitcoin as means of payment when you are dealing online and currently, more institutions are also beginning to use it for transaction. So you need to move with the trend, if covid-19 vaccine are put online for sales you need to help yourself.

As already explained in this thread, the vaccines won't be available privately for quite sometime now. Because the governments around the world have already pre-ordered billions of vials of the vaccine and until all these doses are delivered the pharmaceutical companies won't be able to sell them privately. And I don't expect that to occur at least for the next 6 months.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Karartma1 on January 06, 2021, 10:24:36 AM
I don't know if it has been said or not but unless you are a rich guy with loads of connection you will not be allowed to get the vaccine you want.
"I had the vaccine a few days ago. I don't know if it will work, but I've heard good things about the Russian vaccine." These are the words of the American director Oliver Stone, 74, to the Russian broadcaster Channel 1.
https://www.euronews.com/2020/12/16/coronavirus-us-movie-director-oliver-stone-says-he-has-taken-russia-s-sputnik-v-vaccine


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: FlightyPouch on January 06, 2021, 10:37:48 AM
I would not buy the COVID-19 vaccine with cryptocurrency, it seems very suspicious to me. It will be much easier to buy a vaccine in pharmacies or medical institutions, but as a last resort, order it online from trusted companies.

For me, I think it is no that bad to buy a vaccine with crypto currency or with bitcoin. The problem here is not about the transaction that happened or with the payment used, it is about the fact that the source of that vaccine is unknown making it very risky for those who bought it, it is from the black market, the reason it is dangerous.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Pamadar on January 06, 2021, 10:43:44 AM
I would not buy the COVID-19 vaccine with cryptocurrency, it seems very suspicious to me. It will be much easier to buy a vaccine in pharmacies or medical institutions, but as a last resort, order it online from trusted companies.

For me, I think it is no that bad to buy a vaccine with crypto currency or with bitcoin. The problem here is not about the transaction that happened or with the payment used, it is about the fact that the source of that vaccine is unknown making it very risky for those who bought it, it is from the black market, the reason it is dangerous.

Yup! paying it with crypto is just the same with paying your cash.

The issue is the realibilities of the vaccine, it's hard to risk since it's your life that stake, better to transact or buy this kind of
vaccine with real pharmacies, those who are really permitted to sell this medicine and have the government approval.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Mauser on January 06, 2021, 10:56:54 AM
I would not buy the COVID-19 vaccine with cryptocurrency, it seems very suspicious to me. It will be much easier to buy a vaccine in pharmacies or medical institutions, but as a last resort, order it online from trusted companies.

For me, I think it is no that bad to buy a vaccine with crypto currency or with bitcoin. The problem here is not about the transaction that happened or with the payment used, it is about the fact that the source of that vaccine is unknown making it very risky for those who bought it, it is from the black market, the reason it is dangerous.

There is no supply right now of vaccines. Every offer you see is a 100: scam. Don't trust them you will just lose your money. The pharma companies just started mass producing the vaccine and distributions are done on a national level. It's just not possible to get your hands on them right now. Maybe in 1 year it will be different.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: bitterguy28 on January 06, 2021, 11:45:50 AM
There is a similar incidents in my country recently and even wasn't paid from Bitcoin yet this is about fake vaccine or should i say vaccine that's not confirmed by FDA but was injected in Police force for the reason of under investigation.
The government should provide enough funds for the free vaccination of people and they should also make sure that to eliminate the possible existence of fake vaccines. Lots of us are still doubtful about the current vaccines so I hope that they would prove to us first their effectiveness so we won't put our lives at risk. I don't think buying vaccines through Bitcoin would be ideal because if that happens, it will surely be sold in black markets easily.
While the Government wanted this to Happen yet the Budget is too tight now because of the whole year expenses .


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: FlightyPouch on January 06, 2021, 11:24:19 PM
I would not buy the COVID-19 vaccine with cryptocurrency, it seems very suspicious to me. It will be much easier to buy a vaccine in pharmacies or medical institutions, but as a last resort, order it online from trusted companies.

For me, I think it is no that bad to buy a vaccine with crypto currency or with bitcoin. The problem here is not about the transaction that happened or with the payment used, it is about the fact that the source of that vaccine is unknown making it very risky for those who bought it, it is from the black market, the reason it is dangerous.

Yup! paying it with crypto is just the same with paying your cash.

The issue is the realibilities of the vaccine, it's hard to risk since it's your life that stake, better to transact or buy this kind of
vaccine with real pharmacies, those who are really permitted to sell this medicine and have the government approval.

I doubt that they are not that dumb to think that those vaccines being available in those market is actually legitimate and effective. The internet is known for a lot of bizarre and dangerous things, and the fact that there are not proofs that these vaccines are even true makes it more reason to not buy them. The main idea of it being sold in risky sites or places reeks the smell of a no-no.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Fatunad on January 06, 2021, 11:32:01 PM

I doubt that they are not that dumb to think that those vaccines being available in those market is actually legitimate and effective. The internet is known for a lot of bizarre and dangerous things, and the fact that there are not proofs that these vaccines are even true makes it more reason to not buy them. The main idea of it being sold in risky sites or places reeks the smell of a no-no.
Dumb or simply suicide kind of decision but there are still actually who do really buy with these unknown vaccines specially to those who are desperate fellas that had been affected by Covid
or their kin or relatives which might really be that interested on buying in a dark market.It is really just dumb for you to consider this option knowing that there are no proofs that
this one is legit or not because if there is already some cure then it would really be announced publicly.There no way that they would get ahead before the official announcement
and distribution. There no point on buying into these marketplaces and specially wasting up your coin into something which you dont know if its real or not.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: n0ne on January 06, 2021, 11:51:29 PM
In each and everything bitcoin is being penetrated to make people fool. This needs to change and people need to be aware about these. Most of the governments have planned and has started to provide vaccines free of cost. This is being provided on the basis of senior citizens, front row workers and further to common people. People want it immediately and that's tge reason they go for such vaccines which aren't known.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Sithara007 on January 07, 2021, 03:23:50 AM
In each and everything bitcoin is being penetrated to make people fool. This needs to change and people need to be aware about these. Most of the governments have planned and has started to provide vaccines free of cost. This is being provided on the basis of senior citizens, front row workers and further to common people. People want it immediately and that's tge reason they go for such vaccines which aren't known.

What Bitcoin has to do with this? You need to understand that Bitcoin is being used just as a mode of payment. These scammers pay accept payment using other mediums as well, including fiat cash. Does that mean that fiat cash needs to be blamed for the scam? And about the vaccine distribution, numerous users have already posted about the demerits in not allowing private purchase.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: so98nn on January 07, 2021, 04:34:31 AM
Who in their right minds would buy covid-19 vaccines on the black market? Even if it were the right product there's no way to know whether it's been stored appropiately. Even mail delivery times would already cause trouble, at least with the Biontech/Pfizer vaccine.

Also keep in mind that many governments are going to vaccinate their citizens for free (or at least especially affected people such as health care workers or people with pre-existing conditions).

Exactly, who would do that? And why in the first place anyone would buy vaccines with crypto currencies. In countries like India, vaccines will be given at the Government built booth (already set up) and will be done at the expenses of the government money. I don't think anyone would want to pay in bitcoin for this purpose. Even in the private hospitals this is impossible because doctors will call such person crazy one because they don't have such provisions anyway.

On the other hand even in developed countries no GP or NHS will allow such transaction. That would be just dream for this pandemic.



Companies like Serum, Pfizer won't get involved into crypto payments because that doesn't make sense to them.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: GeorgeJohn on January 07, 2021, 07:26:10 AM
Paying bitcoin for the covid-19 vaccine is really good if it is not a fake vaccine and hopefully the government will allow it so that people who want to buy the vaccine have options.

Also, be careful everyone and be observant to avoid the fake vaccine because for sure it has a detrimental effect on our health.
These world is a digital world purchasing covid19 vaccine with cryptocurrency especially bitcoin is very ideals if pharmacies can equally accept such, because I have not see anything wrong buying vaccine's with bitcoin and it's clear that is not new thing for someone to exchange a product with bitcoin.

So in aspect of fake vaccine of corona virus, to detect the fake one  does not rely to a lay man who does not know the implications of the drugs, so we to differentiate fake vaccine and original vaccine it's based on the manufacturing company who manufactured the drugs and world health organization ( W.H.O) who actually examine drugs before consumption


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: FlightyPouch on January 07, 2021, 10:26:41 AM
Dumb or simply suicide kind of decision but there are still actually who do really buy with these unknown vaccines specially to those who are desperate fellas that had been affected by Covid or their kin or relatives which might really be that interested on buying in a dark market.It is really just dumb for you to consider this option knowing that there are no proofs that this one is legit or not because if there is already some cure then it would really be announced publicly.There no way that they would get ahead before the official announcement and distribution. There no point on buying into these marketplaces and specially wasting up your coin into something which you dont know if its real or not.

I don't mind if they bought these vaccines using bitcoin but I hope they would not use them. I know that there are a lot of people like them that are so desperate for the vaccine but it is really worth the risk? They might be able to heal from that vaccines but since we are still in the effect of the pandemic especially right now that there is a new virus, they can still be affected by that.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: bryant.coleman on January 07, 2021, 10:28:36 AM
Absolutely, why bother getting it somewhere else if you can get it directly from hospitals or even from the government. It's scary to take a vaccine even if it approved by the government since there is no assurance if there are no long-term side-effects from it, what more if you will get it from the black market or deep web. If you can get it from legitimate source or if it's from the manufacturer it will be dumb to get a vaccine via deep web even if they sell it cheaper, never risk your safety and health.

People are trying to purchase it from the dark market, because the vaccine is not available in the hospitals. Limited doses of the vaccine is available and they are reserved for the priority population (i.e elderly people, hospital staff.etc). General population may not get a chance to get vaccinated at least until Q3 2021 in most of the developed nations. For the developing nations, I don't expect it before 2022.


Title: Re: Fake COVID-19 vaccines....by Paying in Bitcoins
Post by: Spaffin on January 10, 2021, 12:56:17 PM
If users are discussing paying for the vaccine in bitcoins, then this suggests that people should buy vaccines for themselves. In my opinion, the state should provide every person with a vaccine, since in this case there should be no inequality. In addition, if we are talking about public procurement, then there must be a state security system that will detect fake vaccines.