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Title: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Kakmakr on December 21, 2020, 11:10:18 AM
I wish we lived in a world where governments could implement a system to reward people that stay Covid free. We see huge amounts of money  being send to people for economic boosters and social grants being paid, but no incentive to reward people that adhere to the rules and those that are staying Covid free.

Now I know a system like this will have several "loopholes" and negative implications too, because some people will try to exploit it ..by not getting tested and walking around infecting others.. to get this reward. (To prevent this, people might get regularly tested before the reward is paid out... but that would cripple the medical industry)  :(

Currently nothing is done to incentivize people to stay Covid free.... just the fear ... but even that is not enough. (Most young people think Covid only kills older people, so they just ignore the rules to stay safe)

Let's debate this for a while and look at ways that this might work. #(Merit goes to people with the most constructive posts)#



Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: jackg on December 21, 2020, 11:14:23 AM
I caught covid after following the government guidelines. I think most government guidelines are the problem tbh.

Also this sort of payment requires a regular thing and also stops people wanting to get tested.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: bakasabo on December 21, 2020, 11:22:31 AM
Isnt being safe and healthy already a reward for Covid free people?

I just dont get the point of "reward system" ? You offer to financially stimulate people to be Covid free? Like receiving 1$ a day for not being infected? As you mention the word system, that means it must be balanced. What if a person that gets rewards gets infected? Should he return then all the rewards? And who will check all the results ? That will turn into having a group of people, checking if people is covid free or not and confirming person is eligible for rewards = spreading virus again.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: AicecreaME on December 21, 2020, 11:25:01 AM
Rewarding those people who stays covid-free is not really worth it, it's just a nonsense without any solid reason why they would get a reward on their own responsibility which is to stay safe. The reward system should go to the health personnels in the clinics, and hospitals, if it's going to happen, because not only they are being underpaid, always physically tired because of overtime, they also risk their lives to save the entire humanity.

They deserve to be rewarded instead of calling them "heroes", let's just be practical especially these days. We need financial support, and not just a praise for our good deeds.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: NeuroticFish on December 21, 2020, 01:27:34 PM
Currently nothing is done to incentivize people to stay Covid free.... just the fear ... but even that is not enough

Actually since the vast majority of people in the world is covid free, the opposite makes more sense: some sort of punishment for the ones getting sick.
Of course, such thing cannot be implemented.

Also going by your idea, people should be periodically tested in order to incentivize them and here's a big problem: if they would have funds to properly test everybody periodically, no other move would be necessary, since normally most people don't want to get sick.


PS. There was an idea on the news that US may incentivize people to get the vaccine. That's doable and in line with your proposal too.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Kakmakr on December 21, 2020, 02:54:30 PM
Currently nothing is done to incentivize people to stay Covid free.... just the fear ... but even that is not enough

Actually since the vast majority of people in the world is covid free, the opposite makes more sense: some sort of punishment for the ones getting sick.
Of course, such thing cannot be implemented.

Also going by your idea, people should be periodically tested in order to incentivize them and here's a big problem: if they would have funds to properly test everybody periodically, no other move would be necessary, since normally most people don't want to get sick.


PS. There was an idea on the news that US may incentivize people to get the vaccine. That's doable and in line with your proposal too.

Obviously not ALL people would qualify for this, because a $300 per month reward would not incentivize rich people to do it, but the majority of people are poor and they would desperately adhere to the rules, if they would get an extra $300 on their monthly social grants for instance. (The $300 is just an example.... I do not know what different governments pay in grants for the unemployed .... but it helps to explain this)

The US gave "boosters" to almost everyone and those people did not have to "give" anything to receive it.... why not give that with specific requirements like this.

As I said before... we do not live in a perfect world.... but we can look for solutions to deal with this pandemic.. right.  ::)


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Karartma1 on December 21, 2020, 02:59:21 PM
I wish we lived in a world where governments could implement a system to reward people that stay Covid free. We see huge amounts of money  being send to people for economic boosters and social grants being paid, but no incentive to reward people that adhere to the rules and those that are staying Covid free.

Now I know a system like this will have several "loopholes" and negative implications too, because some people will try to exploit it ..by not getting tested and walking around infecting others.. to get this reward. (To prevent this, people might get regularly tested before the reward is paid out... but that would cripple the medical industry)  :(

Currently nothing is done to incentivize people to stay Covid free.... just the fear ... but even that is not enough. (Most young people think Covid only kills older people, so they just ignore the rules to stay safe)

Let's debate this for a while and look at ways that this might work. #(Merit goes to people with the most constructive posts)#


I wish we lived in a world where governments were useless because people would be able to behave and live together.
I wish we lived in a world where everybody's freedom would be taken as seriously as our very own freedom.
I wish we lived in a world where the only currency would be simple respect for each other.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: fiulpro on December 21, 2020, 03:33:21 PM
Why the Reward System won't work :
1. Catching COVID is accidental it's not like someone really wants to go and get the virus and is getting something good out of it. Therefore doing this might not only harm the basic intensions it was started because of.
2. People with COVID are the ones who need extra care and extra money , they have to pay huge amount of money to the hospitals and banks. Most of the people with COVID , they are unable to get treated since the hospitals are asking for unreasonable money.
3. If government did start to do that they will just take that money out of : Where?? Our taxes ?? Print more money?? How big the reward is supposed to be ?? Which might encourage people to stay inside ? Most of them won't even care for a small one.
4. Government is unable to provide free masks , free sanitizers and you think they will do this ? 😂 I don't believe they think about anything practically.
5. This would only work for the rich countries like USA.
6. What about the countries where the Virus have mutated to a much worse strain ??

**Initiating a reward system is blaming people for getting sick**

Just like our schools, where apparently kids who did not get sick and did not take holidays were Rewarded with money , or gold medal , or trophies. I believe that's just honestly the kind of society we live in , where people are not even allowed to feel sick and vulnerable and blamed for it.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: crwth on December 21, 2020, 03:39:21 PM
I know many people can really benefit from these kinds of ideas, but it's typically not efficient and not sustainable enough to work. Imagine having to check weekly with swab tests, and who is going to pay for that? I know that there is nothing tangible to be benefitted from "following protocols" just being healthy. And I think that's enough of a reward for people who aren't going to get sick.

If there is a reward all the time for being the "good guy" who always follows the rules and making sure that everything is in order, I think many people would be richer.

I think having the opposite can be a discussion as well. Like those people who got infected and are not following the rules like quarantine, they need to be punished in a way. Maybe they could be the one providing the money for those "rewards" to the healthy ones, lol.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: plvbob0070 on December 21, 2020, 04:04:20 PM
I don't think it's essential to give incentives for everyone who still stay covid free because it's also our individual part to take care of ourselves, and part of that is following the protocols. Also, not all governments have enough funds to do that, like in developing countries that already find it hard to give enough aids to people affected by the pandemic. We don't need a reward or incentives just to take care of our health and follow the protocols implemented because it's for our own sake. Let's just be thankful that we have not get infected by the virus.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Sterbens on December 21, 2020, 04:20:20 PM
I wish we lived in a world where governments could implement a system to reward people that stay Covid free. We see huge amounts of money  being send to people for economic boosters and social grants being paid, but no incentive to reward people that adhere to the rules and those that are staying Covid free.

Currently nothing is done to incentivize people to stay Covid free.... just the fear ... but even that is not enough. (Most young people think Covid only kills older people, so they just ignore the rules to stay safe)


Regarding the government system that provides reward regulation, the value is still not quite right, with many complaints from the public that do not receive assistance evenly when hit by a pandemic. This is the result of their demographic data which is not legally recorded. until finally the opportunity to provide assistance was taken advantage of by those who were said to be still able to meet their daily needs.

In fact, COVID-19 does not side with parents alone, indeed in this case young people feel that their immune system and immunity are strong, so they have the confidence to be free from Covid 19. Meanwhile, from a medical point of view it has strengthened it. a statement regarding the spread of COVID-19 with data showing babies, young people and the elderly, all of whom can contract the disease Covid 19.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Ucy on December 21, 2020, 04:32:40 PM
Interesting.
Well, I think it's better to reward/punish people for obeying or breaking health safety rules... And I'd prefer the reward and punishment to be in form of points that are accumulated over a period of time. The points should be private, by the way, else people in position of authority would abuse it. People with good points accumulated to certain level could end up getting something in the end.

It wouldn't sound right to punish people for getting sick.   It's possible that some/many will still get the disease despite obeying all rules


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Fortify on December 21, 2020, 04:40:08 PM
This doesn't make any sense whatsoever and would be totally unacceptable in any normal society. There are so many circumstances where you could strictly be following government guidelines and still be able to catch it through no fault of your own. You might catch Covid by walking past someone one the street in certain circumstances or having to go food shopping. It is not a well thought out plan at all and would be rightly shunned as unfair.

You should be focused on people who are willingly, through either ignorance or naivety, against taking sensible precautions. Heavy fines, even jail time, for people who willingly break the rules. People having massive close proximity parties without any precautions or refusing even the most basic steps like wearing a mask for the protection of the weakest.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: AniviaBtc on December 21, 2020, 04:56:36 PM
I caught covid after following the government guidelines. I think most government guidelines are the problem tbh.

Also this sort of payment requires a regular thing and also stops people wanting to get tested.

Some people are also denying that they have Covid-19 even if they already have some symptoms which is really the problem.

To those people who have symptoms, they should never be scared to be tested so that the authorities can take immediate action to that.

And for those people who can't afford to become tested, the government should be responsible for that because there's an allocated budget for that. And for the reward system for Covid-free people, I think they don't deserve that because those people who are infected are the most crucial things who needs a lot of attention.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: bitzizzix on December 21, 2020, 05:22:46 PM
Giving rewards to those who are free of COVID-19 is not something extraordinary, because there are those who deserve an award, namely doctors, nurses and all those who work in hospitals for handling COVID-19.
people who are free from COVID-19 because the environment is not in the red zone, not because they comply with health protocols because many offenders do not care but are free from COVID-19, and besides that those who deserve the credit are those who want to help those who are troubled by the pandemic due to loss jobs or other problems especially in the economic sector and which are in dire need of them due to the pandemic.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on December 21, 2020, 05:35:10 PM
It's a viral outbreak, how do you expect people to stay uninfected no matter how hard they try?  I have no doubt that a lot of people who've come down with COVID-19 were taking precautions against it, so I'd think that rewarding people for not getting sick is kind of a silly idea.

Plus there would be all sorts of abuses depending on what the reward was, not to mention the effort the government would have to exert to prove someone wasn't infected.  And then what if someone gets sick after they've been rewarded?  Just thinking about this makes me want to rip my hair out, as it's just a dumb idea.

Stay COVID-free because you want to stay healthy and not infect others.  There shouldn't be any kind of incentive other than that.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Harlot on December 21, 2020, 05:39:11 PM
Only if countries can this be rich that they would have enough budget to reward people following protocols as well have decent allocation for the healthcare and future needs, we wouldn't have this kind of problem in the first place at all if officials have listened to early warnings about a new spread of a virus happening but no no they only see the economy and things in between now majority of their citizens are suffering without any pay and more reliance to the government which the government can't give. Having some kind of rewards might just be wishful thinking from us.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: wxa7115 on December 21, 2020, 06:18:13 PM
I wish we lived in a world where governments could implement a system to reward people that stay Covid free. We see huge amounts of money  being send to people for economic boosters and social grants being paid, but no incentive to reward people that adhere to the rules and those that are staying Covid free.

Now I know a system like this will have several "loopholes" and negative implications too, because some people will try to exploit it ..by not getting tested and walking around infecting others.. to get this reward. (To prevent this, people might get regularly tested before the reward is paid out... but that would cripple the medical industry)  :(

Currently nothing is done to incentivize people to stay Covid free.... just the fear ... but even that is not enough. (Most young people think Covid only kills older people, so they just ignore the rules to stay safe)

Let's debate this for a while and look at ways that this might work. #(Merit goes to people with the most constructive posts)#


This is an interesting proposal, however I think that the main problem is that we still do not have the resources to test most the population of a country in a cost-effective way so this can not be done regularly, this is why the tests are applied mostly to those that present symptoms already, so before we can think of any kind of incentives for those that remain free of the coronavirus we will have to solve that problem.

Finally it is very likely that those rewards are going to be paid with money right out of the printing machine and if there is something that the world doesn't need anymore is to print more money, so if you are going to give some kind of financial reward I think it would be better that it comes in a small reduction in your taxes rather than to give money away.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: hahay on December 21, 2020, 06:45:01 PM
I personally am not sure if this can be implemented by the government, because prevention to cut the spread of Covid19 itself has made many efforts by the government and with these efforts, it seems impossible for the government to reward people even though they remain free from Covid19. Instead of giving rewards, I think it's enough to vaccinate the community for free because honestly, abuse of such rewards will be very possible and if they can't be managed properly, then any corruption and cheating is inevitable and will only create chaos, then that would make the situation even worse.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: exstasie on December 21, 2020, 07:05:07 PM
I wish we lived in a world where governments could implement a system to reward people that stay Covid free. We see huge amounts of money  being send to people for economic boosters and social grants being paid, but no incentive to reward people that adhere to the rules and those that are staying Covid free.

I'm sick of all the handouts. So many people around me have pocketed tens of thousands USD in handouts from stimulus funds, unemployment that should have run out many months ago, etc.

Managing to not get sick should not justify yet another government handout. How about we go back to a system where people make an honest living, instead of sucking on the government teat? ::)

You people are turning me into a conservative.....


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Haunebu on December 21, 2020, 07:09:22 PM
A reward system in this scenario doesn't make any sense at all. World governments are already having a tough time trying to control the virus and revive the economy at the same time which is why providing a financial incentive to control the virus is not possible in my opinion.

Most people won't care about these incentives, distancing rules or the virus itself and will go about their daily life and that is the reality.

Vaccines from major pharmaceutical companies are already being distributed and administered around the world slowly and steadily which is the only permanent solution in this case.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: dothebeats on December 21, 2020, 07:18:42 PM
People being tested ‘regularly’ means resources for testing would be used on people again, if they already tested negative just to monitor them. If they remain negative they will get a reward, which will then use up government resources for incentives on the COVID-negative people instead of that resource being used into treating those who already contracted it. It’s a poor allocation of resources, plus if they are going to use rapid test kits for those tests, there’s a high chance that most of those will turn false negatives, rewarding people wrongly.

The government should come up with better health guidelines if they are yet to receive the vaccine IMO. Rewarding people wouldn’f achieve much, based on historical data and experiences as well.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Lhaine on December 21, 2020, 07:22:58 PM
Do not be infected is already a rewards no need to ask for money rewards as long as you and your family is safe . for what you think is another expense to the government, government still trying to recover  all the lost they experience because of this pandemic. So no need to ask them for another grant that you know that still under recovering .


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: dimonstration on December 21, 2020, 07:25:24 PM
Having some kind of rewards might just be wishful thinking from us.
There are still more things that should be consider in doing it as it require testing as well monitoring that will cause alot, it's hard to do it when there are plenty of people in a community, we know being Covid Free is already a reward we should not take for granted, its hard to have virus and it's hard if we know someone who have the virus so it's better to reward ourselves by being Covid Free for ourselves and the people around us. Let others who didn't mind their well being suffer the consequences.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Beparanf on December 21, 2020, 07:27:23 PM
Do not be infected is already a rewards no need to ask for money rewards as long as you and your family is safe . for what you think is another expense to the government, government still trying to recover  all the lost they experience because of this pandemic. So no need to ask them for another grant that you know that still under recovering .
Agreed, The problem was people always feel to be entitled a reward for following the government especially this pandemic. Many people always rely on government for sustaining there needs to fight Covid-19. Reward base for Covid free will cost extra expenses instead of using it to purchase vaccine once available in the market.

Vaccine is already being distribute and no need to give extra expenses to discipline people just avoid the virus. They should protect themselves at first place.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: thesmallgod on December 21, 2020, 07:56:06 PM
I don't think people that stay free should be incentives. It is not as there are proven way to stay without contracting the virus but rather control measure to minimize the risk of contracting the virus. A lot of people that have the virus can't even explain how they get it. And by the way, in many countries millions of dollars are being used to safe peoples life so it is better to channel the Money in strengthen the health sector rather than rewarding people that stay safe. Already, there are palliative and survival funds for everyone both people that contract the virus and those that does not


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Febo on December 21, 2020, 08:20:45 PM
I wish we lived in a world where governments could implement a system to reward people that stay Covid free.

Man not having covid-19 is a huge reward. You can die. You can have serious lungs disabilities. You can only lose sense of smell. Do you know how food will taste if you will only lose sense of smell? Try it today when you eat lunch. Eat with your nose closed. Not having covid-19 is huge.  


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: blockman on December 21, 2020, 08:43:48 PM
It depends to the local government where you're residing. In my country, there's a mayor that's incentivizing a local area that won't be infected for 2 months. There will be an incentive, a cash reward. And by doing that, he's encouraging every place that's part of his jurisdiction to aim for that incentive and at the same time to help themselves lessen the infection.

I wish we lived in a world where governments could implement a system to reward people that stay Covid free.

Man not having covid-19 is a huge reward.
Truly right. Christmas is coming soon and I'm thankful with this gift and wishing others to be the same.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Yatsan on December 21, 2020, 10:26:33 PM
I think that such reward system will not be worthy because at this time all people are already risking their lives not just for the sake of their own but as well as for their family and every people surrounding them. Working at times like this will be more essential rather than waiting for a reward to come just because you maintain covid free. Also, it might promote inequality and unfairness which might brought up another problem for many might see this as a discrimination and not a promotion to keep themselves covid free. Also, I think being healthy and still breathing is already a good reward for being covid free and nothing more can any reward pay the opportunity to live longer despite of the deadly virus surrounding our community.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: MCobian on December 21, 2020, 11:21:14 PM
I really like the idea of giving rewards to people who can get rid of COVID19. However, this reward system will not apply to
third world countries and countries with large populations. Because the government will find it difficult to find sources of funds
that can be allocated for the payment of these rewards. Besides, in my opinion, the main priority for assistance is people who
are positive for the corona virus.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: inoes on December 21, 2020, 11:36:37 PM
people who are sick actually get financial assistance for medical treatment, not for other things that are not important. sick or healthy can be proven by tests. if all healthy people get the reward, the government will go bankrupt because it will surely reap the pros and cons. if chosen randomly it may still make sense but this can also be a field of crime for certain individuals. because evil intentions can arise regardless of condition, place, and status , only for get money.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: pecson134 on December 22, 2020, 12:07:43 AM
This is possible to do but it will need a lot of resources and efforts for this to come into fruition. The first obstacle here is to attain a high accuracy rate when obtaining information with each person as to what their current status was and this would be the root of all before we can decide what to do next. Secondly as what you implied "exploitation" which can be a problem when we are distributing the rewards since there would always be corruption that would take place when this kind of event is happening. Thirdly, same as I said on the first we need a lot of resources for this one though the government would have a certain budget for this kind of events, the required resources for this one is surely of no joke.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: nemey on December 22, 2020, 03:23:39 AM
The longer I see that Covid is increasingly being taken for granted. Maybe even soon it will just disappear in people's minds. This is because it is possible that the handling and regulations are not very good in my country, so people feel that Covid is not dangerous. Things like this will certainly be difficult if it is going to apply gift giving to people who are free from Covid. For that, I really feel that giving gifts to people who are free from Covid must have a tight procedure and do not use it later.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Reid on December 22, 2020, 04:14:44 AM
We did have a reward. We are Covid Free.
Because of that, we didn't need to go thru a lot of tests just to find out how bad it is.
We also saved a lot of time. Instead of going to the hospital for check-ups or staying there alone, we stayed happily with our family.

I am not against rewards but I doubt someone in the government will pass that kind of bill.
I may be sad not seeing my kids play outside but, if that's what will keep them healthy then I'll endure it.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: YOSHIE on December 22, 2020, 04:32:03 AM
Currently nothing is done to incentivize people to stay Covid free.... just the fear ... but even that is not enough. (Most young people think Covid only kills older people, so they just ignore the rules to stay safe)
Actually thinking like this cannot be tolerated by people who do not comply with the security protocol rules against the Corona Virus.

Corona virus or the language of attack, which is better known as COVID-19, what people need to know is that COVID-19 does not only attack the elderly, what needs to be understood is that the Corona Virus is easily infected. The main target of the COVID-19 virus is the respiratory system, the medical language of "acute pneumonia" The COVID-19 virus does not recognize young and old, anyone who has been infected, be it babies, adults, pregnant women, elderly can cause death.

Technically what the government of each country is doing such as "lockdown" is a good process to lock down, decide, shut down access to the spread of COVID-19, on the other hand, to obey all the rules that are enforced such as wearing a mask, washing hands, Maintaining cleanliness and not having direct contact with people we don't know is also positive access to preventing contracting COVID-19, in essence:never neglect the safety rules, it can be fatal.

respect for those who adhere to safety rules in my opinion if it is done by local government is very positive.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Smartprofit on December 22, 2020, 04:46:10 AM
We do not know what the Covid-19 pandemic is.  Yes, the virus exists.  It is a fact.  

However, we also see government manipulation to disenfranchise people, lower living standards, and abandon the real world in favor of virtual reality.  Previously, people have repeatedly met with various respiratory diseases, but this has never led to a restriction of the civil rights of people.  If a person fell ill, then he was treated.  If many people fell ill, they were isolated.  However, all of Humanity has now been isolated.  

Sometimes it seems to me that the world has gone crazy.  I would call it a panic attack.  In my opinion, in this situation, we understand little.

I am very worried about the separation of people.  Can we go back to our old life?


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: mich on December 22, 2020, 08:47:42 AM
I have chosen to stay home and remain safe to protect myself and to protect others.  I choose to do this because I am not a selfish person and safety is most important during this global pandemic.

Some people do not care about keeping safe and keeping others safe so I think if there was a reward system in place that many people would want this reward and they would stay home.

But it is not normal to reward someone for doing the right thing.  We are all in this together and no one wants to see others become sick or even worse then that to become deathly ill.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Mauser on December 22, 2020, 09:18:55 AM
I don't know if that is such a good idea because not everybody can control being infected. Imagine you work on a corona hospital and get infected by your patience. Is it really your fault? We shouldn't be discriminate towards hard working people. In my opinion it would be better to punish people who don't follow the savety rules. If you go out during curfew there should be hefty fine. Also the anti corona protesters should get jailed if  they infect them self's with the virus.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: jaocoincrypto18 on December 22, 2020, 09:27:48 AM
Reward or no reward people will do their best to avoid being affected by the Covid 19 virus because they all know that their lives is at stake so for me this government reward is not necessary as long as they provide health support to their people by implementing strict safety health protocols and giving food supply for them to survive. Rewards will just make the government to bankrupt specially to the over populated nations with weak economy.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Ucy on December 22, 2020, 09:34:00 AM
... There are so many circumstances where you could strictly be following government guidelines and still be able to catch it through no fault of your own.

Not just that...there is the possibility of people who are immune to the disease getting unfairly rewarded... If such people break the rules without catching the disease, they will still get paid. Things like this make the idea not so fair. I think it's better to just reward people who do the right things and obey the right rules


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Lorence.xD on December 22, 2020, 09:46:01 AM
Reward or no reward people will do their best to avoid being affected by the Covid 19 virus because they all know that their lives is at stake so for me this government reward is not necessary as long as they provide health support to their people by implementing strict safety health protocols and giving food supply for them to survive. Rewards will just make the government to bankrupt specially to the over populated nations with weak economy.
I think an incentive could work but that would be practically impossible because monetary rewards will soon be a problem for the government expenditure. I hate that the only thing that is keeping us alive is that we fear we are the one that might get infected and not make it but we can't do shit. I think the best solution here is for the governing bodies to create a far more effective and efficient way to contain the virus because the conventional way seems to have their own cracks that could get out of hand really quick.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Kakmakr on December 22, 2020, 11:11:47 AM
I wish we lived in a world where governments could implement a system to reward people that stay Covid free. We see huge amounts of money  being send to people for economic boosters and social grants being paid, but no incentive to reward people that adhere to the rules and those that are staying Covid free.

I'm sick of all the handouts. So many people around me have pocketed tens of thousands USD in handouts from stimulus funds, unemployment that should have run out many months ago, etc.

Managing to not get sick should not justify yet another government handout. How about we go back to a system where people make an honest living, instead of sucking on the government teat? ::)

You people are turning me into a conservative.....

You my friend are totally missing the point of this .....

When less people get sick... less of the government taxes are spend on hospitalization in public hospitals. (Also a massive strain on private medical aid funds) .....so an incentive like this will put more money back into government pockets. Also those funds will go where it is really needed.. (The saving will pay for the majority of these rewards) .... Do you know what it is costing the government to put 1 person on a ventilator for 1 month in extensive care?)

I think people should focus more on the positive side of this idea and less on how it would be impossible to implement. (First world countries are giving money away for FREE to stimulate economies.... why not add a little requirement to qualify for this)  ???


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: raidarksword on December 22, 2020, 11:38:21 AM
That would be a great idea and it surely encourage people to stay at home in order to be covid free a reward will be given to those people who are truly abiding the healthy protocols and regulations implemented by the government. It would be interesting event and it will be an effective way of not infecting virus to each and everyone.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Nhor1011 on December 22, 2020, 11:48:36 AM
I think government can use reward for Covid Free people as another way to protect the people being infected because if they can give the reward, then the people will definitely follow the government health protocols in order to get the reward.

But on the other hand, government is too corrupt and I don't think they will make  an allocation about it because it's too expensive for them and will only be added to government spending specially for the country with higher number of population.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: shield132 on December 22, 2020, 11:57:40 AM
Eli Khamarov said great words: "Poverty is like punishment for a crime you didn't commit". And that's 100% true. This proposal isn't directly in touch with the main subject of this thread but no one will reward you for being a good boy. I don't understand at all what's going on, the people who they save have dead are those with more than 1-2 chronic diseases and their state of being was already very critical. It would be better to see the statistics of those who dead with and without covid, both of them. Personally, I think that they play with statistics. Some countries rise statistics manually in order to get help with the form of money, i.e. grants from USA and Europe. In reality, they are making tons of money (big guys) with the current situation while it really hugely affects the population.

So, the reward for covid free people won't happen. No one will help you because you are a good guy! Also, this model of reward for me sounds illogical and not so good because maybe I have been covid free from the beginning but maybe I'll get infected tomorrow, after receiving the reward.

Btw I don't know if the reward for us is the money they give us, in reality that debt will be paid by US, it's like giving out a loan and paying yourself the loan that you gave away. A lot of illogical things happen in our world.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Kakmakr on December 22, 2020, 02:04:46 PM
Eli Khamarov said great words: "Poverty is like punishment for a crime you didn't commit". And that's 100% true. This proposal isn't directly in touch with the main subject of this thread but no one will reward you for being a good boy. I don't understand at all what's going on, the people who they save have dead are those with more than 1-2 chronic diseases and their state of being was already very critical. It would be better to see the statistics of those who dead with and without covid, both of them. Personally, I think that they play with statistics. Some countries rise statistics manually in order to get help with the form of money, i.e. grants from USA and Europe. In reality, they are making tons of money (big guys) with the current situation while it really hugely affects the population.

So, the reward for covid free people won't happen. No one will help you because you are a good guy! Also, this model of reward for me sounds illogical and not so good because maybe I have been covid free from the beginning but maybe I'll get infected tomorrow, after receiving the reward.

Btw I don't know if the reward for us is the money they give us, in reality that debt will be paid by US, it's like giving out a loan and paying yourself the loan that you gave away. A lot of illogical things happen in our world.

Well, as you said.. Governments and the World Health Organization is rewarding the countries for people who are infected... is that not illogical? Why give governments money for people who got infected?..... does that make sense at all?  (Yes, the thinking behind it is to fund the consequences of this virus... but my idea will prevent it.)

You will have to think out of the box for this idea to work.... even if there are 1000s of loopholes and also negative consequences as a result of such an idea. (Why would governments be serious to curb the spread of the virus, if they get paid for people who are infected or who have died?)


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: cabron on December 22, 2020, 02:37:16 PM

It will make people try to be more careful like wearing mask and being sanitisers everywhere, this will be good.
but won't they also pretend not having covid instead just to get rewards while they already have and infect more people in the process.

Just being without a covid is already a reward for being careful. Not helping the people who got covid and without jobs is more like inhumane which they need immediate care.





Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: taufik123 on December 22, 2020, 02:42:25 PM
I think government can use reward for Covid Free people as another way to protect the people being infected because if they can give the reward, then the people will definitely follow the government health protocols in order to get the reward.
Are you sure all people will follow all the protocols even though they have been given a reward. Some groups of people or individuals have different characteristics, some run according to the rules, some don't care about it. Some of the stimulations given by the government in my country are given to workers or employees and to traders. so not everyone can get cash stimulus. for other stimuli in the form of basic foodstuffs, it is given equally to residents who are included in the population list.

But on the other hand, government is too corrupt and I don't think they will make  an allocation about it because it's too expensive for them and will only be added to government spending specially for the country with higher number of population.
Some additional allocations that are needed will certainly be very helpful, but these allocations for this pandemic are indeed very vulnerable to corruption. Just imagine that some corrupt officials have cut the funds provided to the public and that happened a few weeks ago.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Axelseseclevz on December 22, 2020, 02:43:32 PM
Good idea but the problem is if the government will allow it. I hope the government can think of this because it is also a better way to avoid the spreading of virus and also help people to become more careful about their health. The reward will attract the attention of the people to obey the health protocol. Great idea!


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: ChiBitCTy on December 22, 2020, 04:36:07 PM
I hear ya loud and clear here on this.  Now as you stated there is really no good way or legitimate way of actually implementing this idea, or at least one I can think of off the top of my head. For me at least, a United States citizen, it's baffling to me that I've got a President who was so hopelessly careless about getting covid then of course contracting it..this does nothing but show is supporter base it's okay to be a moron and just ignore medical/scientific advice.  I do wish there were a way to reward those who didn't follow is ignorant lead.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: mu_enrico on December 22, 2020, 05:10:27 PM
Dude, why you want to reward people for doing nothing or taking no risk to grow the economy? What's the end of this? Everyone stays inside and does whatever the government wants? We already in the phase of "ignoring" the virus or "living with the virus" as the previous efforts have been failed, and we are on the brink of economic catastrophe. So, stay covid free is not the desired outcome, but immunity is.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: oHnK on December 22, 2020, 05:30:54 PM
This is quite an interesting idea, I even think that way when my coworkers are lazy.  "overcoming rule-breaking attitudes is rewarding rule-abiding" and it worked.  However, if the context is the country, this might be a very big scope.  While governments from developed countries who may have a large state budget can be applied in their country for the latest Covid handling steps.  For a country that is poor and has a very large population, it requires enormous funds.  Governments in poor countries like mine are busy providing assistance to people affected by Covid and currently regulations are also a little lax, so that people who are disobedient are increasing.  Even worse, the Minister in my country who manages the distribution of the Covid19 aid fund is corrupting Covid funds.  So sad.  But I believe the idea of ​​giving rewards to those who are free of covid can help prevent the spread of covid, because many people are motivated to be free from covid.  However, this can only be done by countries with large budgets.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Cling18 on December 22, 2020, 05:39:20 PM
Staying fit and healthy is the best reward that we could have as we follow the protocols to stay free from the Covid virus. We all deserve to be rewarded but our health is the best wealth that we could have that no amount of money could buy. Also, it should be our personal choice to stay covid free. The government still has a lot to sustain just like the treatment of the infected people and to be honest, most of them also did their best to get rid of the virus but still get infected because the virus is just everywhere.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: amarojuan on December 22, 2020, 05:40:31 PM
i stay in home, very fear for my grandpa


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Lhaine on December 22, 2020, 08:05:35 PM
That would have been favorable. But the chore is not so manageable. It will be incredibly tough for so various people to snatch such a huge step for the government lonely. Nevertheless, the reward system can be inaugurated for those who are helpless, such as not being eligible to endeavor or are in disastrous need, living below the poverty line.
they will not waste that time, they will prefer to use the money for the development of their country and somehow recover from the losses caused by the pandemic, it's a good suggestion but in reality even the government doesn't like it they prefer to give a loan for individual business so they can start to recover their bussines than using that money for rewarding other that follow the rules. And besides it is not insignificant that more people have not yet gotten sick compared to those who are already infected. which means they also need to allocate large funds of money to make this successful .


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: CODE200 on December 22, 2020, 10:44:15 PM
Reward system could really improve the discipline among people according to B. F. Skinner.
But I guess such thing will not be appropriate for this situation. There are more casualties which are needing more attention than to focus on giving rewards to those who would be able to not be in contact with the virus. Also, there will be a problem with the budget allocation of the government when it comes to economic and health related problems. Corruption may also arise due to such thing wherein officials could hide the identity of those people who will be eligible of the rewards. Another thing is to where will they get such fund? More likely, they will focus on the problem itself, as a traditional way to solve issues than to go preventive. This would only work at the first and not during the process wherein there are already first and second wave to some countries.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Wawa2013 on December 22, 2020, 11:10:59 PM
By giving rewards to people who are not infected with COVID19, it will increase people's discipline to comply with health protocols.
But the negative side is that the government will need a special budget for this idea. And don't let the budget for rewards use the budget
to provide assistance for victims infected with COVID19. Even though we want to carry out this idea, people who are positive for COVID19
are still the top priority for assistance.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: exstasie on December 22, 2020, 11:49:04 PM
I'm sick of all the handouts. So many people around me have pocketed tens of thousands USD in handouts from stimulus funds, unemployment that should have run out many months ago, etc.

Managing to not get sick should not justify yet another government handout. How about we go back to a system where people make an honest living, instead of sucking on the government teat? ::)

You people are turning me into a conservative.....

You my friend are totally missing the point of this .....

When less people get sick... less of the government taxes are spend on hospitalization in public hospitals.

No, you are missing the point. The distribution of COVID-19 is always going to be asymmetric, since it spreads much more easily among the poor, who are forced to live in crowded and unhygienic spaces and to work jobs that constantly expose them to infection.

What you're talking about is yet another subsidy to middle class and rich people, who already have the luxury of isolating themselves, having all their purchases delivered to their door, working from home, etc.

The distribution of helicopter money has already been so perversely fucked up that I'd rather see it all stop entirely than to see even more people who don't need handouts, get them. The government is just choosing winners and losers and reinforcing existing socioeconomic inequality.

Maybe I'm just biased as someone who works my fucking ass off running 3 businesses, with a family to take care of, and I know people who have been taking handout after handout from the government, sitting on their asses all day doing nothing. I'm tired of it. These incentives are not economically viable and they just create artificial winners and losers.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Genemind on December 23, 2020, 01:06:56 AM
I don't think it is something that has to be rewarded since it is really our responsibility to keep ourselves healthy even without the pandemic. Why would the government spend its budget incentivizing or rewarding people who haven't caught Covid. This amount of money can be spent somewhere else than to give people incentives for not getting Covid.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: AicecreaME on December 23, 2020, 07:04:28 AM
It's a viral outbreak, how do you expect people to stay uninfected no matter how hard they try?  I have no doubt that a lot of people who've come down with COVID-19 were taking precautions against it, so I'd think that rewarding people for not getting sick is kind of a silly idea.

Plus there would be all sorts of abuses depending on what the reward was, not to mention the effort the government would have to exert to prove someone wasn't infected.  And then what if someone gets sick after they've been rewarded?  Just thinking about this makes me want to rip my hair out, as it's just a dumb idea.

Stay COVID-free because you want to stay healthy and not infect others.  There shouldn't be any kind of incentive other than that.

I agree.

Government funding such a silly idea would just be a waste. It's more ideal to invest the money on the vaccine, that's a more better reward than money, because with a successful vaccine, you could continue to earn and save money again, simple as that. But since people are getting short in money, they still prefer cash over a contribution of tax (let's say a reward system would be implemented) that could help them in the long run by having the vaccine in the right time.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: lienfaye on December 23, 2020, 07:32:44 AM
Currently nothing is done to incentivize people to stay Covid free.... just the fear ... but even that is not enough. (Most young people think Covid only kills older people, so they just ignore the rules to stay safe)
Do we really deserve an incentives for taking care of ourselves to not get infected? I mean its our responsibility to comply and be healthy for our own sake, thus I think its not necessary.

Besides there are many institutions specially the health care facilities that really need funds to enhance their services and accomodate more patients. In our country we are lacking of health care providers and hospitals, the reason why some patients are not able to survive for not getting the treatment they needed.

So instead of giving a reward for the covid free people, why not think of more essential things that need the budget first to address the main issue that we currently face.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Noctis Connor on December 23, 2020, 08:32:41 AM
I don't think it is something that has to be rewarded since it is really our responsibility to keep ourselves healthy even without the pandemic. Why would the government spend its budget incentivizing or rewarding people who haven't caught Covid. This amount of money can be spent somewhere else than to give people incentives for not getting Covid.
Well government thinking about themselves not their people they really don't care about the people if they die or not as long as they are earning money and they are already saved from this pandemic. And also government wants only money and this will not sink into their minds that those people who really felt the struggle of life just to survive this pandemic , here in my country you need to pay for the covid vaccine also those who already had covid and not givin it for free this is absolute insane they do not care about us anymore.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: meanwords on December 23, 2020, 02:10:23 PM
Also this sort of payment requires a regular thing and also stops people wanting to get tested.

But I think the government wouldn't let this happen so they will probably add a rule that people need to be tested first and wait for a period of time to get a reward. This reward system would actually force people to want the test.

But this reward system would be unfair to those who actually needs support which is the victims so I don't think it will work (unless they do the same with system with the victims).


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: shield132 on December 23, 2020, 02:58:10 PM
Eli Khamarov said great words: "Poverty is like punishment for a crime you didn't commit". And that's 100% true. This proposal isn't directly in touch with the main subject of this thread but no one will reward you for being a good boy. I don't understand at all what's going on, the people who they save have dead are those with more than 1-2 chronic diseases and their state of being was already very critical. It would be better to see the statistics of those who dead with and without covid, both of them. Personally, I think that they play with statistics. Some countries rise statistics manually in order to get help with the form of money, i.e. grants from USA and Europe. In reality, they are making tons of money (big guys) with the current situation while it really hugely affects the population.

So, the reward for covid free people won't happen. No one will help you because you are a good guy! Also, this model of reward for me sounds illogical and not so good because maybe I have been covid free from the beginning but maybe I'll get infected tomorrow, after receiving the reward.

Btw I don't know if the reward for us is the money they give us, in reality that debt will be paid by US, it's like giving out a loan and paying yourself the loan that you gave away. A lot of illogical things happen in our world.

Well, as you said.. Governments and the World Health Organization is rewarding the countries for people who are infected... is that not illogical? Why give governments money for people who got infected?..... does that make sense at all?  (Yes, the thinking behind it is to fund the consequences of this virus... but my idea will prevent it.)

You will have to think out of the box for this idea to work.... even if there are 1000s of loopholes and also negative consequences as a result of such an idea. (Why would governments be serious to curb the spread of the virus, if they get paid for people who are infected or who have died?)
In reality, a lot of illogical thing happens in our society but in this case, it's pretty logical, you help those who need it. When the country fights against covid, a lot of resources are spent to treat patients and more strict restrictions are activated in such countries, that kills business. In this case, they really need the help and it's logical to help them but the problem is that some countries manipulate with statistics and use situation to benefit themselves. They don't benefit people but their pockets so it's the sad reality of today's world. You may ask, don't they know that these countries do such a bad things? Yes, and those, who donate, are bad guys too. Big guys don't care about people, all they want is money for themselves.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Ucy on December 23, 2020, 04:07:38 PM
Also this sort of payment requires a regular thing and also stops people wanting to get tested.

But I think the government wouldn't let this happen so they will probably add a rule that people need to be tested first and wait for a period of time to get a reward. This reward system would actually force people to want the test.

But this reward system would be unfair to those who actually needs support which is the victims so I don't think it will work (unless they do the same with system with the victims).

In regards to the bolded, that will probably mean little to no incentive for people to do what is right, unless maybe you're paying just the victim hospital bill (no extra reward for victims to spend on other needs like how those without the disease will spend theirs)... or you're paying the disease-free ones more.
 Reward doesn't necessarily has to be monetary.. You could get people to accumulate/lose points for doing what is right/wrong and the good points can be used to improve their reputation in mostly health related areas, or the points could earn them more values/privileges when they're accumulated to certain level.
I think the reward system will need to be rule and evidence based. You find someone/people taking big health risk(or breaking important health safety rules) in public places, you capture them with special anonymity-friendly/privacy-friendly camera, you earn some points and the ones breaking rules lose points.    Better to do this in decentralized manner in form of Citizen Cams or something.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: sort_cirkit on December 23, 2020, 05:27:43 PM
For the prize there are many who could build resistance against the virus, such as Canada. When you look at the results, you talk about America and you have to be embarrassed. In the intoxication of world conquest, America is busy but the COVID-19 has turned the country into a puppet. There are many issues that everyone comes up with for humanity but when we see fear, the result is the opposite. covid-19 is not very scary. The government wants to win by playing games with the common people.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: magneto on December 23, 2020, 08:00:04 PM
It would be a good idea but as you said, if it didn't completely lack enforceability and the ability to implement.

To implement such a scheme you'd have to have some sort of universal health identifier/profile for all of the population. That itself is going to see a lot of backlash given the fact that it can be seen as an infringement of privacy rights.

Although a merit of this proposal is that it would also serve as a macroeconomic stimulus as a secondary effect, which is sorely needed in the majority of economies right now.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: DoublerHunter on December 23, 2020, 10:03:18 PM
^ Honestly, in my personal and honest opinion, the reward system won’t work. It would only add to a lot of expenses your country has. Why?
It is simple. In order to prove that someone is COVID-19 free, there must be an examination. That is called the swab test, and it costs roughly around 100 USD per test depends on which country you are in. It may be more expensive.  At that stage, the government will have an expense. Then, of course, the compensation for having no COVID. It hurts me to think about how much money would it cost for the government.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: AndySt on December 23, 2020, 11:47:58 PM
^ Honestly, in my personal and honest opinion, the reward system won’t work. It would only add to a lot of expenses your country has. Why?
It is simple. In order to prove that someone is COVID-19 free, there must be an examination. That is called the swab test, and it costs roughly around 100 USD per test depends on which country you are in. It may be more expensive.  At that stage, the government will have an expense. Then, of course, the compensation for having no COVID. It hurts me to think about how much money would it cost for the government.
It all depends on the amount of remuneration in the end, if the amounts are scanty, then the costs will also be scanty, respectively ;) Here everything is not so clear from the point of view of morality, because not all people fall ill with COVID precisely because of non-compliance with precautionary measures, because in any case it is impossible to take into account all the accompanying factors and the probability of infection still remains.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: pixie85 on December 24, 2020, 01:30:25 AM
For the prize there are many who could build resistance against the virus, such as Canada. When you look at the results, you talk about America and you have to be embarrassed. In the intoxication of world conquest, America is busy but the COVID-19 has turned the country into a puppet. There are many issues that everyone comes up with for humanity but when we see fear, the result is the opposite. covid-19 is not very scary. The government wants to win by playing games with the common people.

The virus doesn't do well against people with strong immune systems who don't catch cold or flu.

There's no point in trying to make people covid-free because in crowded cities they will get it anyway sooner or later. It's more important to educate people and make them stay healthy and strong.

Catching covid is easy but if you don't have any other health problems you will go through it without even knowing.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Awalt541 on December 24, 2020, 01:42:33 AM
Biggest system required and it's need need for long time to implemented, regualtion, formula circulating supply spead money in society. I'm not sure that's could be one solution to make shiit is over.
Awareness staring by self or family it's very valuable than given those people rewards.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: 7788bitcoin on December 24, 2020, 01:44:21 AM
I wish we lived in a world where governments could implement a system to reward people that stay Covid free. We see huge amounts of money  being send to people for economic boosters and social grants being paid, but no incentive to reward people that adhere to the rules and those that are staying Covid free.
I know there are dumb asses but mostly people do care for their health and majority roaming out are risking to have a living as you cannot survive without a job and giving out incentives for taking care of your health does not bode well with any government ;D.

The virus doesn't do well against people with strong immune systems who don't catch cold or flu.
Do you think people have a strong immune system, i thought i had a pretty good immune system but when i was down with a chest infection this month i initially thought i was infected by covid and then came to a conclusion that it was a simple infection and this was the first time i was getting infected this badly and i know how much i suffered for almost two weeks.

If you still think you have the immune system to fight off these antibodies, make sure you take a Immunoglobulin Test so that you will have an idea about your body ;).



Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Sithara007 on December 24, 2020, 03:27:11 AM
I know there are dumb asses but mostly people do care for their health and majority roaming out are risking to have a living as you cannot survive without a job and giving out incentives for taking care of your health does not bode well with any government ;D.

I don't think that the majority are taking the necessary precautions to avoid getting infected. Here in India, during the initial days people were wearing masks and maintaining social distancing. But after a while, they got impatient, and started to ignore these precautionary steps. There has been a decline in the number of new infections and this might have contributed to the lax attitude. 


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: pecson134 on December 24, 2020, 03:32:13 AM
Currently nothing is done to incentivize people to stay Covid free.... just the fear ... but even that is not enough. (Most young people think Covid only kills older people, so they just ignore the rules to stay safe)
Do we really deserve an incentives for taking care of ourselves to not get infected? I mean its our responsibility to comply and be healthy for our own sake, thus I think its not necessary.

Besides there are many institutions specially the health care facilities that really need funds to enhance their services and accomodate more patients. In our country we are lacking of health care providers and hospitals, the reason why some patients are not able to survive for not getting the treatment they needed.

So instead of giving a reward for the covid free people, why not think of more essential things that need the budget first to address the main issue that we currently face.

Yes instead of incentives they should give things that can avoid someone to caught covid or if not just to decrease the chance of acquiring one. Like you said it is our own responsibility to protect ourselves and the government could make some law to those who don't abide from the rules.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: sana54210 on December 24, 2020, 02:38:41 PM
When you talk about covid free people, that is not a permanent thing, I could be covid free today and could have covid tomorrow. However there were talks about how vaccination should be rewarded because there are too many talks of conspiracy about what the vaccination will do, and the world that mocked anti-vaxxer people just a year ago talks about how this vaccination could be bad.

If you were mocking anti-vaxxers just a year ago, why would you want to be like them today about the covid vaccination then? Which is why I think the best case would be giving money to people who get the vaccination. All of us need money during this period right? That is the smart thing to do? Well, that means if we could somehow so stimulus checks to people who get the vaccination, people will line up to get vaccinated, there will be very very small minority that wouldn't in exchange for a stimulus check.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: pixie85 on December 24, 2020, 10:08:30 PM
The virus doesn't do well against people with strong immune systems who don't catch cold or flu.
Do you think people have a strong immune system, i thought i had a pretty good immune system but when i was down with a chest infection this month i initially thought i was infected by covid and then came to a conclusion that it was a simple infection and this was the first time i was getting infected this badly and i know how much i suffered for almost two weeks.

If you still think you have the immune system to fight off these antibodies, make sure you take a Immunoglobulin Test so that you will have an idea about your body ;).

I've been walking around like normal, meeting friends, eating out. Even when they closed the restaurants because of covid I was supporting them and ordering takeaways.

During the last year I met with clients, friends, family. The probablility of one of those people being infected and passing it to me is pretty high yet I haven't even had a cold this year.

Until I see people around me getting sick and requiring medical help I'll keep being a skeptic when it comes to this epidemic.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: AndySt on December 24, 2020, 10:47:07 PM
Which is why I think the best case would be giving money to people who get the vaccination. All of us need money during this period right? That is the smart thing to do? Well, that means if we could somehow so stimulus checks to people who get the vaccination, people will line up to get vaccinated, there will be very very small minority that wouldn't in exchange for a stimulus check.
I also think that a really better idea than giving money to those who are not sick with COVID is to give money to those who have expressed their consent to vaccination. People who have not yet had COVID, but have received money for it, may well get sick in the near future, and those who have already been vaccinated will not get sick and will not create a subsequent burden on the state health system. Therefore, the benefits are mutual for both people and the state.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Shasha80 on December 24, 2020, 10:51:13 PM
I don't agree with the idea of giving rewards to COVID free people, because it will only waste state money on something that I think is
not important. It must be remembered that all countries are currently experiencing a financial crisis, which must be wise in using money.
After all, it is the duty of all residents to adhere to health protocols to be free from the corona virus, and don't do a rewards system for it.
I think it is more effective to impose fines on health protocol violators, in order to raise awareness of all important people to comply with
health protocols. This idea not only increases the number of COVID-free people, but also can increase state income.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: smyslov on December 25, 2020, 01:48:01 PM
Our government can't do that we don't have enough money to support all our CoVid patient and those that are displaced workers  because of the pandemic, rich country can do that but with the health system overwhelmed by the number of infected and closing of the economy I don't think it's a good idea, it's better that the money be put on the health sector and getting the economy up again.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: sarmrakib on December 25, 2020, 02:35:35 PM
We all want to stay away from covid19 no matter someone gives us rewards or not. But the problem is we need to go outside for shopping or at least purchase foods and this virus can spread through air and paper cash. So I think money should be provided to those people who are infected and can not work. These will support their medical and economical problems.
Actually it is so tough to provide all rewards who are surviving on this virus .Covid-19 is fast ever spreading virus as i know we are all surviving on different ways .Its a very good idea to give some rewards but still so tough to provide .So that we can use virtual coin like crypto instead of cash .It will be so helpful for them who are really surviving on it .


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: GeorgeJohn on December 25, 2020, 03:09:33 PM
It's obvious that some country government normally take care of their eople but and some don't even think about profit of her citizens, looking at what op said it's really emulating  but no government can implement such, from my perspective I think them will fine it very rigid to implement while what op said is reality.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Imran232 on December 25, 2020, 05:11:00 PM
I wish we lived in a world where governments could implement a system to reward people that stay Covid free.


Then i will get the reward plus my whole family also. Its a glad to god that our whole family is still covid free its grace of god. We are thankful to him. We all know that onlu he saves us. All depends on him he can save us he can kill us too. Though we know we all have to die one day but could be before some one or after some onsle. Its a strategy of life and die. We are live in hope. We should pray for those who leaves us in this pandemic. Though its a luck of bad that they left us in sudden with their whole family. What should government can do more. They are doing lots of campaign. But what can we do too we have to go out for food.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Fortify on December 25, 2020, 05:26:34 PM
It feels like you should be punishing bad behavior more than rewarding expected behavior. If you stop people from travelling on public transport or entering into any public property entertainment destinations, that seems like a fair trade for refusing to acknowledge basic science while putting many more people at lethal risk from a virus. Most people will happily understand and adapt to what is expected, as described by medical experts, rather than ignorantly ignoring even simple common sense.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Nellayar on December 25, 2020, 10:33:37 PM
I don't know the point why we need to have a reward system wherein fact the government is hard to budget the national treasury. In my country, it won't really make an effect. Many of my countrymen is not believing in covid19 and they are so much stubborn. Our government does not have also a conrete plan on how to end the covid 19. Yes, this is good to pause the continuously growth of the virus but we all need a concrete idea on how to end this pandemic. Instead of having this reward system, we can focus in researches or studies to emphasize how virus is going to kill through herbal medicines.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: Sapphire915 on December 26, 2020, 03:12:38 AM
This is a great idea to encourage the hard headed people to just stay home and follow the healthy guidelines and safety protocols. However, I believe that this really couldn't work in any ways. Why? Because some Countries are struggling so hard right now and the Governments were focusing to give aid to the people in all aspects most especially the health issues and the starving people. How can the Governments thought first of this things where they need to deal with all the urgent and necessary issues in front of them? Somehow, they appreciate those people who follow rules and still covid-19 free until this time. This idea may sound helpful to me but the governments are now running out of budget especially here in my Country where we only have limited resources and we already borrowed money from the world bank to continue to give assistance to the people in order for us all to survive while this pandemic is still raging on.


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: maye5104 on December 26, 2020, 04:32:06 AM
It sounds like a discrimination. No one, who catches covid, really wanted to be infected. And testing potentially healthy people (those who qualifies for a payout) will take a lot of money and time. It's better to spend both resources on beating the virus instead of supporting healthy people.   


Title: Re: A reward system for Covid Free people....
Post by: bearexin on December 27, 2020, 05:41:01 AM
I believe reward system for covid free wouldn't work really well considering the testing part of it. However rewarding people who do stuff that should implicate less chance for covid infection would be better. Like for example you could have people download apps that show where they are and they are always at home, not going outside, this should be getting rewards, or I am biased because I haven't left my home in 50+ days to prevent from infection :D.

You could find things like that, which would be things that prevent easy covid sharing like going outside for a restaurant or movie or whatever, since those are risky, so reward those who do not do those things. Or simply yet, just reward ones that get vaccination, those are surely people who would be less possible to die from covid, and that is why I think it would make a lot more sense to reward those.