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December 21, 2020, 11:10:18 AM
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I wish we lived in a world where governments could implement a system to reward people that stay Covid free. We see huge amounts of money  being send to people for economic boosters and social grants being paid, but no incentive to reward people that adhere to the rules and those that are staying Covid free.

Now I know a system like this will have several "loopholes" and negative implications too, because some people will try to exploit it ..by not getting tested and walking around infecting others.. to get this reward. (To prevent this, people might get regularly tested before the reward is paid out... but that would cripple the medical industry)  Sad

Currently nothing is done to incentivize people to stay Covid free.... just the fear ... but even that is not enough. (Most young people think Covid only kills older people, so they just ignore the rules to stay safe)

Let's debate this for a while and look at ways that this might work. #(Merit goes to people with the most constructive posts)#


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December 21, 2020, 11:14:23 AM
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I caught covid after following the government guidelines. I think most government guidelines are the problem tbh.

Also this sort of payment requires a regular thing and also stops people wanting to get tested.
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December 21, 2020, 11:22:31 AM
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Isnt being safe and healthy already a reward for Covid free people?

I just dont get the point of "reward system" ? You offer to financially stimulate people to be Covid free? Like receiving 1$ a day for not being infected? As you mention the word system, that means it must be balanced. What if a person that gets rewards gets infected? Should he return then all the rewards? And who will check all the results ? That will turn into having a group of people, checking if people is covid free or not and confirming person is eligible for rewards = spreading virus again.

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December 21, 2020, 11:25:01 AM
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Rewarding those people who stays covid-free is not really worth it, it's just a nonsense without any solid reason why they would get a reward on their own responsibility which is to stay safe. The reward system should go to the health personnels in the clinics, and hospitals, if it's going to happen, because not only they are being underpaid, always physically tired because of overtime, they also risk their lives to save the entire humanity.

They deserve to be rewarded instead of calling them "heroes", let's just be practical especially these days. We need financial support, and not just a praise for our good deeds.
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December 21, 2020, 01:27:34 PM
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Currently nothing is done to incentivize people to stay Covid free.... just the fear ... but even that is not enough

Actually since the vast majority of people in the world is covid free, the opposite makes more sense: some sort of punishment for the ones getting sick.
Of course, such thing cannot be implemented.

Also going by your idea, people should be periodically tested in order to incentivize them and here's a big problem: if they would have funds to properly test everybody periodically, no other move would be necessary, since normally most people don't want to get sick.


PS. There was an idea on the news that US may incentivize people to get the vaccine. That's doable and in line with your proposal too.

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December 21, 2020, 02:54:30 PM
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Currently nothing is done to incentivize people to stay Covid free.... just the fear ... but even that is not enough

Actually since the vast majority of people in the world is covid free, the opposite makes more sense: some sort of punishment for the ones getting sick.
Of course, such thing cannot be implemented.

Also going by your idea, people should be periodically tested in order to incentivize them and here's a big problem: if they would have funds to properly test everybody periodically, no other move would be necessary, since normally most people don't want to get sick.


PS. There was an idea on the news that US may incentivize people to get the vaccine. That's doable and in line with your proposal too.

Obviously not ALL people would qualify for this, because a $300 per month reward would not incentivize rich people to do it, but the majority of people are poor and they would desperately adhere to the rules, if they would get an extra $300 on their monthly social grants for instance. (The $300 is just an example.... I do not know what different governments pay in grants for the unemployed .... but it helps to explain this)

The US gave "boosters" to almost everyone and those people did not have to "give" anything to receive it.... why not give that with specific requirements like this.

As I said before... we do not live in a perfect world.... but we can look for solutions to deal with this pandemic.. right.  Roll Eyes

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December 21, 2020, 02:59:21 PM
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I wish we lived in a world where governments could implement a system to reward people that stay Covid free. We see huge amounts of money  being send to people for economic boosters and social grants being paid, but no incentive to reward people that adhere to the rules and those that are staying Covid free.

Now I know a system like this will have several "loopholes" and negative implications too, because some people will try to exploit it ..by not getting tested and walking around infecting others.. to get this reward. (To prevent this, people might get regularly tested before the reward is paid out... but that would cripple the medical industry)  Sad

Currently nothing is done to incentivize people to stay Covid free.... just the fear ... but even that is not enough. (Most young people think Covid only kills older people, so they just ignore the rules to stay safe)

Let's debate this for a while and look at ways that this might work. #(Merit goes to people with the most constructive posts)#


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Why the Reward System won't work :
1. Catching COVID is accidental it's not like someone really wants to go and get the virus and is getting something good out of it. Therefore doing this might not only harm the basic intensions it was started because of.
2. People with COVID are the ones who need extra care and extra money , they have to pay huge amount of money to the hospitals and banks. Most of the people with COVID , they are unable to get treated since the hospitals are asking for unreasonable money.
3. If government did start to do that they will just take that money out of : Where?? Our taxes ?? Print more money?? How big the reward is supposed to be ?? Which might encourage people to stay inside ? Most of them won't even care for a small one.
4. Government is unable to provide free masks , free sanitizers and you think they will do this ? 😂 I don't believe they think about anything practically.
5. This would only work for the rich countries like USA.
6. What about the countries where the Virus have mutated to a much worse strain ??

**Initiating a reward system is blaming people for getting sick**

Just like our schools, where apparently kids who did not get sick and did not take holidays were Rewarded with money , or gold medal , or trophies. I believe that's just honestly the kind of society we live in , where people are not even allowed to feel sick and vulnerable and blamed for it.

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December 21, 2020, 03:39:21 PM
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I know many people can really benefit from these kinds of ideas, but it's typically not efficient and not sustainable enough to work. Imagine having to check weekly with swab tests, and who is going to pay for that? I know that there is nothing tangible to be benefitted from "following protocols" just being healthy. And I think that's enough of a reward for people who aren't going to get sick.

If there is a reward all the time for being the "good guy" who always follows the rules and making sure that everything is in order, I think many people would be richer.

I think having the opposite can be a discussion as well. Like those people who got infected and are not following the rules like quarantine, they need to be punished in a way. Maybe they could be the one providing the money for those "rewards" to the healthy ones, lol.

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December 21, 2020, 04:04:20 PM
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I don't think it's essential to give incentives for everyone who still stay covid free because it's also our individual part to take care of ourselves, and part of that is following the protocols. Also, not all governments have enough funds to do that, like in developing countries that already find it hard to give enough aids to people affected by the pandemic. We don't need a reward or incentives just to take care of our health and follow the protocols implemented because it's for our own sake. Let's just be thankful that we have not get infected by the virus.
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December 21, 2020, 04:20:20 PM
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I wish we lived in a world where governments could implement a system to reward people that stay Covid free. We see huge amounts of money  being send to people for economic boosters and social grants being paid, but no incentive to reward people that adhere to the rules and those that are staying Covid free.

Currently nothing is done to incentivize people to stay Covid free.... just the fear ... but even that is not enough. (Most young people think Covid only kills older people, so they just ignore the rules to stay safe)


Regarding the government system that provides reward regulation, the value is still not quite right, with many complaints from the public that do not receive assistance evenly when hit by a pandemic. This is the result of their demographic data which is not legally recorded. until finally the opportunity to provide assistance was taken advantage of by those who were said to be still able to meet their daily needs.

In fact, COVID-19 does not side with parents alone, indeed in this case young people feel that their immune system and immunity are strong, so they have the confidence to be free from Covid 19. Meanwhile, from a medical point of view it has strengthened it. a statement regarding the spread of COVID-19 with data showing babies, young people and the elderly, all of whom can contract the disease Covid 19.

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December 21, 2020, 04:32:40 PM
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Interesting.
Well, I think it's better to reward/punish people for obeying or breaking health safety rules... And I'd prefer the reward and punishment to be in form of points that are accumulated over a period of time. The points should be private, by the way, else people in position of authority would abuse it. People with good points accumulated to certain level could end up getting something in the end.

It wouldn't sound right to punish people for getting sick.   It's possible that some/many will still get the disease despite obeying all rules
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This doesn't make any sense whatsoever and would be totally unacceptable in any normal society. There are so many circumstances where you could strictly be following government guidelines and still be able to catch it through no fault of your own. You might catch Covid by walking past someone one the street in certain circumstances or having to go food shopping. It is not a well thought out plan at all and would be rightly shunned as unfair.

You should be focused on people who are willingly, through either ignorance or naivety, against taking sensible precautions. Heavy fines, even jail time, for people who willingly break the rules. People having massive close proximity parties without any precautions or refusing even the most basic steps like wearing a mask for the protection of the weakest.

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December 21, 2020, 04:56:36 PM
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I caught covid after following the government guidelines. I think most government guidelines are the problem tbh.

Also this sort of payment requires a regular thing and also stops people wanting to get tested.

Some people are also denying that they have Covid-19 even if they already have some symptoms which is really the problem.

To those people who have symptoms, they should never be scared to be tested so that the authorities can take immediate action to that.

And for those people who can't afford to become tested, the government should be responsible for that because there's an allocated budget for that. And for the reward system for Covid-free people, I think they don't deserve that because those people who are infected are the most crucial things who needs a lot of attention.

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December 21, 2020, 05:22:46 PM
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Giving rewards to those who are free of COVID-19 is not something extraordinary, because there are those who deserve an award, namely doctors, nurses and all those who work in hospitals for handling COVID-19.
people who are free from COVID-19 because the environment is not in the red zone, not because they comply with health protocols because many offenders do not care but are free from COVID-19, and besides that those who deserve the credit are those who want to help those who are troubled by the pandemic due to loss jobs or other problems especially in the economic sector and which are in dire need of them due to the pandemic.

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December 21, 2020, 05:35:10 PM
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It's a viral outbreak, how do you expect people to stay uninfected no matter how hard they try?  I have no doubt that a lot of people who've come down with COVID-19 were taking precautions against it, so I'd think that rewarding people for not getting sick is kind of a silly idea.

Plus there would be all sorts of abuses depending on what the reward was, not to mention the effort the government would have to exert to prove someone wasn't infected.  And then what if someone gets sick after they've been rewarded?  Just thinking about this makes me want to rip my hair out, as it's just a dumb idea.

Stay COVID-free because you want to stay healthy and not infect others.  There shouldn't be any kind of incentive other than that.

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December 21, 2020, 05:39:11 PM
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Only if countries can this be rich that they would have enough budget to reward people following protocols as well have decent allocation for the healthcare and future needs, we wouldn't have this kind of problem in the first place at all if officials have listened to early warnings about a new spread of a virus happening but no no they only see the economy and things in between now majority of their citizens are suffering without any pay and more reliance to the government which the government can't give. Having some kind of rewards might just be wishful thinking from us.
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I wish we lived in a world where governments could implement a system to reward people that stay Covid free. We see huge amounts of money  being send to people for economic boosters and social grants being paid, but no incentive to reward people that adhere to the rules and those that are staying Covid free.

Now I know a system like this will have several "loopholes" and negative implications too, because some people will try to exploit it ..by not getting tested and walking around infecting others.. to get this reward. (To prevent this, people might get regularly tested before the reward is paid out... but that would cripple the medical industry)  Sad

Currently nothing is done to incentivize people to stay Covid free.... just the fear ... but even that is not enough. (Most young people think Covid only kills older people, so they just ignore the rules to stay safe)

Let's debate this for a while and look at ways that this might work. #(Merit goes to people with the most constructive posts)#


This is an interesting proposal, however I think that the main problem is that we still do not have the resources to test most the population of a country in a cost-effective way so this can not be done regularly, this is why the tests are applied mostly to those that present symptoms already, so before we can think of any kind of incentives for those that remain free of the coronavirus we will have to solve that problem.

Finally it is very likely that those rewards are going to be paid with money right out of the printing machine and if there is something that the world doesn't need anymore is to print more money, so if you are going to give some kind of financial reward I think it would be better that it comes in a small reduction in your taxes rather than to give money away.
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I personally am not sure if this can be implemented by the government, because prevention to cut the spread of Covid19 itself has made many efforts by the government and with these efforts, it seems impossible for the government to reward people even though they remain free from Covid19. Instead of giving rewards, I think it's enough to vaccinate the community for free because honestly, abuse of such rewards will be very possible and if they can't be managed properly, then any corruption and cheating is inevitable and will only create chaos, then that would make the situation even worse.

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December 21, 2020, 07:05:07 PM
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I wish we lived in a world where governments could implement a system to reward people that stay Covid free. We see huge amounts of money  being send to people for economic boosters and social grants being paid, but no incentive to reward people that adhere to the rules and those that are staying Covid free.

I'm sick of all the handouts. So many people around me have pocketed tens of thousands USD in handouts from stimulus funds, unemployment that should have run out many months ago, etc.

Managing to not get sick should not justify yet another government handout. How about we go back to a system where people make an honest living, instead of sucking on the government teat? Roll Eyes

You people are turning me into a conservative.....

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