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Title: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: theymos on December 26, 2020, 02:28:21 AM
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/531662-emergency-crews-respond-to-explosion-in-downtown-nashville

Normally I don't pay much attention to bombings, mass shootings, etc., but this one is really intriguing. The RV which exploded had loudspeakers on it which first apparently played loud gunshot noises to wake everyone up, and then it started playing a message warning people to evacuate. It also exploded in a non-residential area, at a time when the area would not have much traffic. Because of these measures, it seems that nobody was seriously injured, but the explosion did cause a massive amount of property damage, affecting several city blocks. The RV was near an AT&T facility, and damage to this facility caused widespread outages in Internet & phone service, though it's not completely clear that this facility was the target.

There are just so many interesting possibilities as to who could be behind this:

1. Initial reporting is that there may have been human remains found near the blast. This has not been confirmed. Maybe this was just a really flamboyant suicide?

2. This could could an attempt by a US enemy to sow division. Trump-aligned people will think that it was a leftist plot (maybe a false flag by the deep state, or an attack by an IRA-like left-terrorist group), while anti-Trump people will think that it was white-nationalist or QAnon domestic terrorists. I will be especially inclined to think that this is the case if we don't get much more info about who was behind the attack; doing an attack like this without leaving traces would be very difficult, so that points to a very sophisticated attacker, and leaving the issue perpetually hanging so that both sides can fight about it forever suits the motives of a foreign-nation-state attacker.

3. This could be the opening salvos of some terrorist group. By doing it this way, you can multiply the efficiency of all of your future attacks, since you can put loudspeakers on a vehicle very cheaply, and if only 1% of them actually explode, this is enough to cause widespread terror and disruption in potentially hundreds of cities. The whole setup of this attack was more sophisticated, well-planned, and constrained than I'd expect from the big terrorist groups of the past such as ISIS, which is interesting. If it was a terrorist group, then I'd expect them to eventually take credit for it and use it as a recruiting tool, though note that other terrorist groups will probably also falsely claim credit for the attack soon enough.

4. The whole point might've been to create a distraction for something else which hasn't been found yet. The damage to the AT&T facility took out Internet and phone service (including 911) and also made everyone look in one particular direction for a long time. This would be very convenient if you were infiltrating a facility 20 miles away at the same time, for example.

5. You never know, but:
    a) I tend to think that this was too sophisticated for the QAnon or anti-5G people.
    b) A bunch of big, terrifying attacks could conceivably be used by Trump as part of a coup to stay in power. But I don't think that Trump's inner circle is competent or far-looking enough to do this, I don't think that Trump is ambitious enough for it, I don't think that enough of the military/bureaucratic apparatus would support him in any case, and I don't think that something like this would stay secret for more than a few hours in Trump's notoriously leaky administration.
    c) While there have been a few true false flag attacks by the US government in the past, they're incredibly rare, and they're done secretly by small conspiracies within the intelligence community, not as a matter of policy. I won't completely rule out that this is some action by groups within US intelligence, but this isn't an idea I'd take seriously without seeing a lot more evidence. I'm also not sure what the motive would be. (Trump supporters might say that it's part of a plot to make Trump leave office, but that'd happen anyway... This line of thinking points back to the "promoting division by a foreign state" hypothesis.)



More info will presumably come up as time goes on; right now, everything is very preliminary. I'd find it pretty unbelievable if there is no surveillance camera footage of the RV being put into position, for example. Surveillance cameras are so ubiquitous nowadays that it should probably be possible to trace the path of the RV at least to the edge of the city, though it will take a lot of time to collect all of the footage. It's also not clear to me at this point whether the RV was right outside the AT&T facility, or whether it was half a block or more away -- different news outlets report different info here, and this info is important for determining whether the AT&T facility was specifically targeted.

What do you think? I look forward to hearing the insane theories of BADecker and others, along perhaps with some less insane theories.


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on December 26, 2020, 03:34:20 AM

2. This could could an attempt by a US enemy
This is possible. It could be an attempt to sow discord, or it could be a test run to see how effectively communication systems can be knocked offline.

The RV was parked (https://www.wsj.com/articles/explosion-rattles-downtown-nashville-11608911741?mod=hp_lead_pos9) in front of the AT&T building. As you noted, the RV warned people in the area well in advance of the pending explosion, and the explosion occurred at a time and place that would likely result in few casualties. If there are no casualties, there would not be as much public support for military action against whoever was responsible versus if there were many deaths.


3. This could be the opening salvos of some terrorist group. By doing it this way, you can multiply the efficiency of all of your future attacks, since you can put loudspeakers on a vehicle very cheaply, and if only 1% of them actually explode, this is enough to cause widespread terror and disruption in potentially hundreds of cities.
This is possible, and is along the lines of what I thought when I heard about the explosion earlier today before I learned the RV was parked in front of the AT&T building. This particular attack caused fairly little disruption prior to the explosion, and plenty of time was given for people to evacuate to safety. The facts indicate care was taken to minimize the cost to citizens of the area.


5. You never know, but:
    b) A bunch of big, terrifying attacks could conceivably be used by Trump as part of a coup to stay in power.
You never know, but I guess this is possible. I think there are too many institutions that have spent 4 years "resisting" Trump for him to be able to realistically stay in office. The Trump administration has had way too many leaks for anyone to even consider trying this, IMO. I also don't see the benefit to Trump in staying in power illegitimately. Trump is already a multibillionaire, has considerable influence over the country, and is unlikely to be at risk of jail when he leaves office.

   c) While there have been a few true false flag attacks by the US government in the past, they're incredibly rare,
If this was the case, maybe there is a group within the 'deep state' that wants to go to war with Iran. A false flag attack to start a war with China or Russia sounds too crazy to me.


More info will presumably come up as time goes on; right now, everything is very preliminary. I'd find it pretty unbelievable if there is no surveillance camera footage of the RV being put into position, for example. Surveillance cameras are so ubiquitous nowadays that it should probably be possible to trace the path of the RV at least to the edge of the city, though it will take a lot of time to collect all of the footage.
Today, it is very common (and sometimes even required) for people to be wearing facemasks in public. Whoever was driving the RV could have had a facemask on while driving, got out of the RV with a facemask on, and walked to a residential area without security cameras, where he was picked up by an Uber some number of hours later.


Edit to add:
I don't think this is an anti-5g group. 5g towers only reach (https://www.verizon.com/about/news/how-far-does-5g-reach) about 1500 feet, so the impact to 5g specifically would have been low.


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: suchmoon on December 26, 2020, 03:46:24 AM
I'm gonna go with Occam Bruce Willis on this one. Somebody was robbing a bank or some other valuable target.


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: tvbcof on December 26, 2020, 03:52:44 AM
The mainstream media has been predicatively programming that what they call 'white nationalists' are going to be doing 'terrorism' for a while now.  When I first read this (on this post) it was the first thing which came to mind since I've been basically expecting the next phase in this particular psy-op for a while.

Edit:  Waiting to see if the 'DNA testing' of the 'human remains' is from a 'white nationalist', an 'antivaxxer', or if we get two for the price of one. $10 says he'll be an 'antisemite' as well.  For sure some people are going to need to get a lot more grants to help with their unique security concerns, and of course we'll need a lot more surveillance.  I wonder if the perp will also be a bitcoiner?



Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on December 26, 2020, 03:57:42 AM
I'm gonna go with Occam Bruce Willis on this one. Somebody was robbing a bank or some other valuable target.
If this is true, why actually make it explode? The explosion will result in security cameras being more scrutinized, and the penalty is much harsher if they get caught.

If this was part of a robbery plot, I think more time would have been given and the bomb wouldn’t have exploded (or even maybe wouldn’t have been a bomb).


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: suchmoon on December 26, 2020, 04:06:04 AM
I'm gonna go with Occam Bruce Willis on this one. Somebody was robbing a bank or some other valuable target.
If this is true, why actually make it explode? The explosion will result in security cameras being more scrutinized, and the penalty is much harsher if they get caught.

If this was part of a robbery plot, I think more time would have been given and the bomb wouldn’t have exploded (or even maybe wouldn’t have been a bomb).

You clearly haven't watched the cinematic masterpieces on this subject. It had to explode to disrupt 911 and to focus law enforcement on the explosion while the villains were leisurely doing something else somewhere else, which may not even be noticed until Monday (thus Christmas morning timing).


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: Natsuu on December 26, 2020, 04:10:09 AM
Here goes my theories on this

1. Disposing of evidence- the RV might contain human individuals or any pieces of evidence that might be part of a crime from miles in the city. This theory came up as in the article given by the OP, it is said the 15 minutes before the explosion, a radio broadcast says that an explosion will happen, and after a while, a call says that people should evacuate the area. Ergo, the act might be from someone who doesn't want innocent strangers to be involved in the first place.

2. Just what OP said, it could be a point of misdirection for a criminal act where it is successful as the explosion not just get the attention of the mass, media, and the government. It also cuts the communications in the city.

I wouldn't suggest it to be an act from political parties to avoid shady arguments with insufficient evidences. Still looking forward to what FBI or other agencies sees as I think that they already hold some significant evidences that is not a publics concern for now.


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: KingScorpio on December 26, 2020, 08:18:24 AM
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/531662-emergency-crews-respond-to-explosion-in-downtown-nashville

Normally I don't pay much attention to bombings, mass shootings, etc., but this one is really intriguing. The RV which exploded had loudspeakers on it which first apparently played loud gunshot noises to wake everyone up, and then it started playing a message warning people to evacuate. It also exploded in a non-residential area, at a time when the area would not have much traffic. Because of these measures, it seems that nobody was seriously injured, but the explosion did cause a massive amount of property damage, affecting several city blocks. The RV was near an AT&T facility, and damage to this facility caused widespread outages in Internet & phone service, though it's not completely clear that this facility was the target.

There are just so many interesting possibilities as to who could be behind this:

1. Initial reporting is that there may have been human remains found near the blast. This has not been confirmed. Maybe this was just a really flamboyant suicide?

2. This could could an attempt by a US enemy to sow division. Trump-aligned people will think that it was a leftist plot (maybe a false flag by the deep state, or an attack by an IRA-like left-terrorist group), while anti-Trump people will think that it was white-nationalist or QAnon domestic terrorists. I will be especially inclined to think that this is the case if we don't get much more info about who was behind the attack; doing an attack like this without leaving traces would be very difficult, so that points to a very sophisticated attacker, and leaving the issue perpetually hanging so that both sides can fight about it forever suits the motives of a foreign-nation-state attacker.

3. This could be the opening salvos of some terrorist group. By doing it this way, you can multiply the efficiency of all of your future attacks, since you can put loudspeakers on a vehicle very cheaply, and if only 1% of them actually explode, this is enough to cause widespread terror and disruption in potentially hundreds of cities. The whole setup of this attack was more sophisticated, well-planned, and constrained than I'd expect from the big terrorist groups of the past such as ISIS, which is interesting. If it was a terrorist group, then I'd expect them to eventually take credit for it and use it as a recruiting tool, though note that other terrorist groups will probably also falsely claim credit for the attack soon enough.

4. The whole point might've been to create a distraction for something else which hasn't been found yet. The damage to the AT&T facility took out Internet and phone service (including 911) and also made everyone look in one particular direction for a long time. This would be very convenient if you were infiltrating a facility 20 miles away at the same time, for example.

5. You never know, but:
    a) I tend to think that this was too sophisticated for the QAnon or anti-5G people.
    b) A bunch of big, terrifying attacks could conceivably be used by Trump as part of a coup to stay in power. But I don't think that Trump's inner circle is competent or far-looking enough to do this, I don't think that Trump is ambitious enough for it, I don't think that enough of the military/bureaucratic apparatus would support him in any case, and I don't think that something like this would stay secret for more than a few hours in Trump's notoriously leaky administration.
    c) While there have been a few true false flag attacks by the US government in the past, they're incredibly rare, and they're done secretly by small conspiracies within the intelligence community, not as a matter of policy. I won't completely rule out that this is some action by groups within US intelligence, but this isn't an idea I'd take seriously without seeing a lot more evidence. I'm also not sure what the motive would be. (Trump supporters might say that it's part of a plot to make Trump leave office, but that'd happen anyway... This line of thinking points back to the "promoting division by a foreign state" hypothesis.)



More info will presumably come up as time goes on; right now, everything is very preliminary. I'd find it pretty unbelievable if there is no surveillance camera footage of the RV being put into position, for example. Surveillance cameras are so ubiquitous nowadays that it should probably be possible to trace the path of the RV at least to the edge of the city, though it will take a lot of time to collect all of the footage. It's also not clear to me at this point whether the RV was right outside the AT&T facility, or whether it was half a block or more away -- different news outlets report different info here, and this info is important for determining whether the AT&T facility was specifically targeted.

What do you think? I look forward to hearing the insane theories of BADecker and others, along perhaps with some less insane theories.

you can't trust anyone in atheist societies


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: franky1 on December 26, 2020, 11:03:37 AM
topics i predict will pop up:

'why its called an intentional act and not a terrorist(domestic/foreign) act"
i think some racial-anti racial groups might start a rhetoric that authorities must already know a white guy done it by calling it an intentional act so quickly, where as when the purpetrater is usually non-white its called a terrorist attack early on

was the 15 minute warning to move citizens away but coax police to come near. hoping to hurt authories the most.


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playing the odds, with limited info available.im going to speculate it was some lonely old guy living in his caravan as a contractor for AT&T that lost his family earlier in the year then lost his job at AT&T and decided to suicide himself while taking out his employers local office.  yep my speculation is only 0.5% probable. but far more likely then any terrorist plot or anti-cop plot speculations i read so far on different sites


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: DaveF on December 26, 2020, 12:31:13 PM
playing the odds, with limited info available.im going to speculate it was some lonely old guy living in his caravan as a contractor for AT&T that lost his family earlier in the year then lost his job at AT&T and decided to suicide himself while taking out his employers local office.  yep my speculation is only 0.5% probable. but far more likely then any terrorist plot or anti-cop plot speculations i read so far on different sites

I was thinking something similar, somebody with an issue against AT&T, or another business in the area. It's easy to pick on AT&T do to their size and dominance in the telcom industry, but it could just as easily been the law firm that screwed him (or her) over that was in the office building next door.

On the other hand it could be AT&T because they do own so much. Off the top of my head they also own DirecTV, HBO (and all of the associated HBO stuff), Turner Media (CNN, Cartoon Network, TruTV and more) So, they might have had an issue with AT&T but not for the telcom side.

Or it could just have been a nutjob.

-Dave


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: suchmoon on December 26, 2020, 12:57:23 PM
playing the odds, with limited info available.im going to speculate it was some lonely old guy living in his caravan as a contractor for AT&T that lost his family earlier in the year then lost his job at AT&T and decided to suicide himself while taking out his employers local office.  yep my speculation is only 0.5% probable. but far more likely then any terrorist plot or anti-cop plot speculations i read so far on different sites

I was thinking something similar, somebody with an issue against AT&T, or another business in the area. It's easy to pick on AT&T do to their size and dominance in the telcom industry, but it could just as easily been the law firm that screwed him (or her) over that was in the office building next door.

The (supposed) target building is a windowless transmission station. If you wanted to make a statement wouldn't you pick a shiny office tower - like the AT&T "batman" building about a block away from the explosion site.


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: Tzupy on December 26, 2020, 03:47:01 PM
The purpose of the terrorist attack was obviously damaging the AT&T facility, not killing people. So what made that AT&T facility important?
Was any incriminating information, related to the election fraud, stored there? If there was no such information stored there, then probably
this was just a test, trying to find out how extensive the communication disruption can be, and then follow up with more such attacks.


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: Gyfts on December 26, 2020, 08:29:38 PM
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nashville-bombing-person-of-interest-identified/

Possible person of interest is identified? Twitter is saying some old guy who was found because the same RV was found on Google maps sitting in his driveway.

But people are already doxing the dude floating his name around when technically he is just a person of interest, not a suspect.


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: Quickseller on December 26, 2020, 09:10:19 PM
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nashville-bombing-person-of-interest-identified/

Possible person of interest is identified? Twitter is saying some old guy who was found because the same RV was found on Google maps sitting in his driveway.

But people are already doxing the dude floating his name around when technically he is just a person of interest, not a suspect.
It is always possible the RV was stolen. As a citizen, I would not do anything to this person, other than call the police.


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: eddie13 on December 26, 2020, 11:15:32 PM
I don’t understand why people are thinking this was so “sophisticated”..
He had an entire RV of volume for his bomb and the buildings are still standing.. The trees are still standing and the buildings don’t even look that damaged..
Not very impressed.. This was not some expertly made bomb to do real damage imo.. It only made good headlines..

Compare this to the Oklahoma city bombing as far as actual destruction, and even that was an amateur bomb..

Another thing is that motor homes are pretty big, but not really designed to carry that much weight.. They can’t easily hold/carry tons like a rented uhaul truck can..

It would be easy to get a “throwaway” RV with no paper trail by just buying one cheap on Craigslist with cash and never telling the seller your real name.. Just never register it..


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: BADecker on December 27, 2020, 01:47:35 AM
Taking down the corrupt CIA who is part of the election fraud gambit.

Go to the website to see the video frames that show the missile.


Nashville explosion was actually a missile strike, and the target was the AT&T / NSA hardened switching facility “spy hub” (https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-12-26-nashville-explosion-was-actually-a-missile-strike-att-nsa-spy-hub.html)



We now have video evidence that an incoming missile initiated the explosion in Nashville. The following skyline video, embedded below, shows quite clearly an incoming missile trail immediately before the explosion.

We also now know that the location, which was blurred out by Google street maps, housed the AT&T / NSA VoIP Router Complex, which allows the NSA to spy on all phone conversations and phone texts of anyone using the AT&T network. The Intercept article, “The Wiretap Rooms,” explains the existence of “hidden NSA spy hubs” all across America.

The former owner of the building is reportedly Cerebus Capital, which is tied to Yagoobzadeh, which acquired some ownership of Dominion Voting Systems.

Various internet analysts say the blast appears to have been intended to halt a Dominion voting machines audit that was about to take place in the building as well, although that has not yet been confirmed.

No matter what the motive, you can rest assured the media will find some White conservative gun owner to blame for everything, as that’s always their propaganda narrative.

Incoming missile proves this was a military operation, launched from an aircraft


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Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: franky1 on December 27, 2020, 01:47:59 AM
The purpose of the terrorist attack was obviously damaging the AT&T facility, not killing people. So what made that AT&T facility important?
Was any incriminating information, related to the election fraud, stored there? If there was no such information stored there, then probably
this was just a test, trying to find out how extensive the communication disruption can be, and then follow up with more such attacks.

or a less tinfoil hat speculation.. the bomber lost his job as a contractor for AT&T ended up losing his home and just ended up wanting to suicide himself while taking his workplace out at the same time


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: coolcoinz on December 27, 2020, 01:55:09 AM
I don’t understand why people are thinking this was so “sophisticated”..
He had an entire RV of volume for his bomb and the buildings are still standing.. The trees are still standing and the buildings don’t even look that damaged..
Not very impressed.. This was not some expertly made bomb to do real damage imo.. It only made good headlines..

Compare this to the Oklahoma city bombing as far as actual destruction, and even that was an amateur bomb..

Another thing is that motor homes are pretty big, but not really designed to carry that much weight.. They can’t easily hold/carry tons like a rented uhaul truck can..

It would be easy to get a “throwaway” RV with no paper trail by just buying one cheap on Craigslist with cash and never telling the seller your real name.. Just never register it..

That was some of my first thoughts. The recording was creepy, like from some alien invasion, a movie, a game...
The bomb was pretty weak. It barely damaged cars standing nearby. I've seen footage from Iraq and Afghanistan where bombs and mines explode and this was nothing like it. More like someone made some nitroglycerin at home or a decent amount of black powder. I can think of homemade explosives that would do more damage...
Doesn't look like anything of military origin like some gun enthusiasts or former soldiers might prepare, unless they'd want it to be weak.


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: franky1 on December 27, 2020, 01:57:00 AM
Taking down the corrupt CIA who is part of the election fraud gambit.

Go to the website to see the video frames that show the missile.

missiles come from the sky towards the target... that missile logic (and not this videos scenario)

but the video clearly shows the opposite
what you see is an initial explosion of debris flying into the sky. followed by the smoke of things burning
due to the explosion.
yep clouds of smoke occur moments AFTER an explosion. not the precise millisecond of the initial explosion.

logic. physics and common sense know that this is the normal progression of observations of an explosion

i really wonder how you think an outgoing path of debris is confusing you to such an extent that you blindingly think its an incoming missile

i think you need to get your eyes checked and have some glasses to correct your vision


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: BADecker on December 27, 2020, 02:03:10 AM
Taking down the corrupt CIA who is part of the election fraud gambit.

Go to the website to see the video frames that show the missile.

missiles come from the sky towards the target... that missile logic (and not this videos scenario)

but the video clearly shows the opposite
what you see is an initial explosion of debris flying into the sky. followed by the smoke of things burning
due to the explosion.
yep clouds of smoke occur moments AFTER an explosion. not the precise millisecond of the initial explosion.

logic. physics and common sense know that this is the normal progression of observations of an explosion

i really wonder how you think an outgoing path of debris is confusing you to such an extent that you blindingly think its an incoming missile

i think you need to get your eyes checked and have some glasses to correct your vision

Lol  :D Thanky, franky1. They circle the rocket exhaust trail for you. You can believe it or not.

8)


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: eddie13 on December 27, 2020, 01:53:44 PM
More like someone made some nitroglycerin at home or a decent amount of black powder. I can think of homemade explosives that would do more damage...
Doesn't look like anything of military origin like some gun enthusiasts or former soldiers might prepare, unless they'd want it to be weak.

most RV's have a fuel tank and the RV's gas oven canister.. filling the RV living space with the ovens gas. and then igniting it. would be super easy and with no cost. as its default explosives that come with an RV

Sure it might blow the sides off the RV but wouldn’t cause much more damage than that..
I don’t think that would even be classified as an “explosive” at all.. Actually it’s not..


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: suchmoon on December 27, 2020, 02:42:55 PM
It's not looking good for the Bruce Willis theory. The FBI is asking around if the RV owner was a 5G conspiratard. If QAnon bullshit is turning into bombs on the streets then this country is more fucked than I thought.


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: Laudanum on December 27, 2020, 02:47:23 PM
I've told Walter time and time again...never let Jessie do the cooking.


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: coolcoinz on December 27, 2020, 04:02:06 PM
More like someone made some nitroglycerin at home or a decent amount of black powder. I can think of homemade explosives that would do more damage...
Doesn't look like anything of military origin like some gun enthusiasts or former soldiers might prepare, unless they'd want it to be weak.

most RV's have a fuel tank and the RV's gas oven canister.. filling the RV living space with the ovens gas. and then igniting it. would be super easy and with no cost. as its default explosives that come with an RV

Sure it might blow the sides off the RV but wouldn’t cause much more damage than that..
I don’t think that would even be classified as an “explosive” at all.. Actually it’s not..

Much to strong for gas. Gas would just make a fireball and sound wave that would break windows. This thing fell nearby trees. I still think it's too weak for anything professional like c4, wired missile and so on. Doesn't compare with what ISIS could fit in their suicide cars. This was less than 30% of their load.
You can even compare the area it damaged to a terrorist suicide bomb aftermath.


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: BADecker on December 27, 2020, 09:40:44 PM
It's not looking good for the Bruce Willis theory. The FBI is asking around if the RV owner was a 5G conspiratard. If QAnon bullshit is turning into bombs on the streets then this country is more fucked than I thought.

Maybe anti-consparitard will become a common term now.

The stuff QAnon says has been quit completely what has happened.

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Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: franky1 on December 27, 2020, 10:19:49 PM
Lol  :D Thanky, franky1. They circle the rocket exhaust trail for you. You can believe it or not.

the trail went from the ground into the air. the RV was not a plane so there was no missile targetting a rv/plane

they circled debris flying from the explosion from the ground to the air. moments before the large cloud plume from the combustion of things burning

More like someone made some nitroglycerin at home or a decent amount of black powder. I can think of homemade explosives that would do more damage...
Doesn't look like anything of military origin like some gun enthusiasts or former soldiers might prepare, unless they'd want it to be weak.

most RV's have a fuel tank and the RV's gas oven canister.. filling the RV living space with the ovens gas. and then igniting it. would be super easy and with no cost. as its default explosives that come with an RV


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on December 27, 2020, 11:04:44 PM

1. Initial reporting is that there may have been human remains found near the blast. This has not been confirmed. Maybe this was just a really flamboyant suicide?


The police are saying the human remains are those of the owner of the RV. They are also saying that he is a suspect in the bombing.

It is unclear if there is security tape of the RV itself where it was parked. It looks like this was made to look like a suicide, but who knows. If there is no video of the RV, it could be a fake suicide in order to cover up whatever the true purpose of the explosion was. I have read a report that the RV owner had recently transferred the deed of his house to someone else, which would be consistent with a suicide (giving away his possessions).


It looks like there was a fake copycat with someone in an RV blasting a song that the RV was playing prior to the explosion.


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: squatz1 on December 27, 2020, 11:27:47 PM
I don’t understand why people are thinking this was so “sophisticated”..
He had an entire RV of volume for his bomb and the buildings are still standing.. The trees are still standing and the buildings don’t even look that damaged..
Not very impressed.. This was not some expertly made bomb to do real damage imo.. It only made good headlines..

Compare this to the Oklahoma city bombing as far as actual destruction, and even that was an amateur bomb..

Another thing is that motor homes are pretty big, but not really designed to carry that much weight.. They can’t easily hold/carry tons like a rented uhaul truck can..

It would be easy to get a “throwaway” RV with no paper trail by just buying one cheap on Craigslist with cash and never telling the seller your real name.. Just never register it..

This is what I keep harping back to in my own brain. Nothing was ‘too damaged’ from this bombing, when it would’ve been so very possible to blow up the AT&T building or transmission center if this was better targeted and more sophisticated in its handling.

Obviously this entire thing is very strange, curious on what the investigations begin to unearth in the coming days, weeks, and months.

It's not looking good for the Bruce Willis theory. The FBI is asking around if the RV owner was a 5G conspiratard. If QAnon bullshit is turning into bombs on the streets then this country is more fucked than I thought.

.....

Never thought crazy bullshit conspiracies about 5G stuff would move from online bs memes and shit into full blown attacks, but we’ll see.


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: Tzupy on December 28, 2020, 12:15:32 AM
The mainstream media pushes a narrative, that Anthony Quinn Warner was the suicide bomber.
I believe he was a "useful idiot", who was shot by someone else, possibly a Deep State operative, and left to die in the RV.
Anyway, if you feel an urge, to listen in your car to the old "Downtown", by Petula Clark, better not, police may pull you over.


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: _Miracle on December 28, 2020, 01:53:20 AM
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/531662-emergency-crews-respond-to-explosion-in-downtown-nashville

Normally I don't pay much attention to bombings, mass shootings, etc., but this one is really intriguing. The RV which exploded had loudspeakers on it which first apparently played loud gunshot noises to wake everyone up, and then it started playing a message warning people to evacuate. It also exploded in a non-residential area, at a time when the area would not have much traffic. Because of these measures, it seems that nobody was seriously injured, but the explosion did cause a massive amount of property damage, affecting several city blocks. The RV was near an AT&T facility, and damage to this facility caused widespread outages in Internet & phone service, though it's not completely clear that this facility was the target.

There are just so many interesting possibilities as to who could be behind this:

1. Initial reporting is that there may have been human remains found near the blast. This has not been confirmed. Maybe this was just a really flamboyant suicide?

2. This could could an attempt by a US enemy to sow division. Trump-aligned people will think that it was a leftist plot (maybe a false flag by the deep state, or an attack by an IRA-like left-terrorist group), while anti-Trump people will think that it was white-nationalist or QAnon domestic terrorists. I will be especially inclined to think that this is the case if we don't get much more info about who was behind the attack; doing an attack like this without leaving traces would be very difficult, so that points to a very sophisticated attacker, and leaving the issue perpetually hanging so that both sides can fight about it forever suits the motives of a foreign-nation-state attacker.

3. This could be the opening salvos of some terrorist group. By doing it this way, you can multiply the efficiency of all of your future attacks, since you can put loudspeakers on a vehicle very cheaply, and if only 1% of them actually explode, this is enough to cause widespread terror and disruption in potentially hundreds of cities. The whole setup of this attack was more sophisticated, well-planned, and constrained than I'd expect from the big terrorist groups of the past such as ISIS, which is interesting. If it was a terrorist group, then I'd expect them to eventually take credit for it and use it as a recruiting tool, though note that other terrorist groups will probably also falsely claim credit for the attack soon enough.

4. The whole point might've been to create a distraction for something else which hasn't been found yet. The damage to the AT&T facility took out Internet and phone service (including 911) and also made everyone look in one particular direction for a long time. This would be very convenient if you were infiltrating a facility 20 miles away at the same time, for example.

5. You never know, but:
    a) I tend to think that this was too sophisticated for the QAnon or anti-5G people.
    b) A bunch of big, terrifying attacks could conceivably be used by Trump as part of a coup to stay in power. But I don't think that Trump's inner circle is competent or far-looking enough to do this, I don't think that Trump is ambitious enough for it, I don't think that enough of the military/bureaucratic apparatus would support him in any case, and I don't think that something like this would stay secret for more than a few hours in Trump's notoriously leaky administration.
    c) While there have been a few true false flag attacks by the US government in the past, they're incredibly rare, and they're done secretly by small conspiracies within the intelligence community, not as a matter of policy. I won't completely rule out that this is some action by groups within US intelligence, but this isn't an idea I'd take seriously without seeing a lot more evidence. I'm also not sure what the motive would be. (Trump supporters might say that it's part of a plot to make Trump leave office, but that'd happen anyway... This line of thinking points back to the "promoting division by a foreign state" hypothesis.)



More info will presumably come up as time goes on; right now, everything is very preliminary. I'd find it pretty unbelievable if there is no surveillance camera footage of the RV being put into position, for example. Surveillance cameras are so ubiquitous nowadays that it should probably be possible to trace the path of the RV at least to the edge of the city, though it will take a lot of time to collect all of the footage. It's also not clear to me at this point whether the RV was right outside the AT&T facility, or whether it was half a block or more away -- different news outlets report different info here, and this info is important for determining whether the AT&T facility was specifically targeted.

What do you think? I look forward to hearing the insane theories of BADecker and others, along perhaps with some less insane theories.


#1.  would be really sad

#4. if it's a distraction that would be the only thing to make it sophisticated.

https://www.ntd.com/fbi-atf-police-raid-nashville-house-linked-to-christmas-day-rv-bombing_545370.html

They include a link to one of the video cameras and the local police press conference.


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: theymos on December 28, 2020, 02:45:40 AM
The police has now officially announced that they think that Warner was behind it, and that he was in the RV when it exploded; the human remains found at the scene were DNA-matched to him. "Going out with a bang" was one of the first ideas that occurred to me, so it's not surprising, and I don't particularly doubt the official story so far. It was also the most boring possibility... Regardless of his motives, this is something that'll be forgotten in weeks. I'd guess that he was just suicidally depressed, without much larger motive, and he wanted to do something loud/flashy/"fun" as a suicide. Maybe part of him was hoping that law enforcement would come stop it and maybe save him before he exploded (if he didn't shoot himself beforehand - not known yet AFAIK).

It's tragic for him and for everyone harmed, though I'm glad that he remained altruistic enough to go out of his way to avoid killing people. Someone suicidal has many ways of easily killing a lot of people if they choose, as seen for example in the Las Vegas shooting. Even though it's tragic that Warner was willing to kill himself (for any reason), and it's tragic that he chose to multiply his own pain across many additional people, in some ways it gives me a little extra faith in humanity to see that even in his final position of absolute power - when there was absolutely nothing outside of his mind constraining his behavior, when he had fewer chains than most people ever have - he very actively chose mercy as opposed to wrath.


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: BADecker on December 28, 2020, 03:56:56 AM
About time that somebody did this "bombing." I hope no innocent people got hurt. We don't need the NSA or CIA snooping in at our emails and phone calls.

I wonder what would happen if somebody set up a little test. A bunch of fake email addresses... a few friends with VPNs... encrypted emails constantly going back and forth between the various fake email addresses... emails set on timers to go out when the friends are offline, to make it difficult to track IP-addresses online when the emails go out.


The NSA's Hidden Spy Hubs in Eight U.S. Cities (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/296884-2020-12-27-the-nsas-hidden-spy-hubs-in-eight-u-s-cities.htm)



Thousands of people pass by the buildings each day and rarely give them a second glance, because their function is not publicly known. They are an integral part of one of the world's largest telecommunications networks – and they are also linked to a controversial National Security Agency surveillance program.

Atlanta, Chicago, Dallas, Los Angeles, New York City, San Francisco, Seattle, and Washington, D.C. In each of these cities, The Intercept has identified an AT&T facility containing networking equipment that transports large quantities of internet traffic across the United States and the world. A body of evidence – including classified NSA documents, public records, and interviews with several former AT&T employees – indicates that the buildings are central to an NSA spying initiative that has for years monitored billions of emails, phone calls, and online chats passing across U.S. territory.


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EDIT: More details and video - https://worthypolitics.com/breaking-exclusive-a-video-proves-nashville-explosion-was-actually-a-missile-strike-and-the-target-was-the-att-nsa-hardened-switching-facility-spy-hub/.


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: franky1 on December 28, 2020, 07:07:43 AM
More like someone made some nitroglycerin at home or a decent amount of black powder. I can think of homemade explosives that would do more damage...
Doesn't look like anything of military origin like some gun enthusiasts or former soldiers might prepare, unless they'd want it to be weak.

most RV's have a fuel tank and the RV's gas oven canister.. filling the RV living space with the ovens gas. and then igniting it. would be super easy and with no cost. as its default explosives that come with an RV

Sure it might blow the sides off the RV but wouldn’t cause much more damage than that..
I don’t think that would even be classified as an “explosive” at all.. Actually it’s not..

Much to strong for gas. Gas would just make a fireball and sound wave that would break windows. This thing fell nearby trees. I still think it's too weak for anything professional like c4, wired missile and so on. Doesn't compare with what ISIS could fit in their suicide cars. This was less than 30% of their load.
You can even compare the area it damaged to a terrorist suicide bomb aftermath.

RV gas tank + RV fuel+ couple of fertiliser bags in the back (ammonium)..
all im saying is it doesnt need to be sophisticated or expensive to blow up an RV

,,,
anyway in more news seems the bomber handed his family home to a californian woman last year instead of his own mother. but that woman handed it back to the mother last august.
the bomber then handed his own home to that same woman last month and quit his job..

and in predictable news he seemed to be an oddball. being paranoid about 5G and having weird antenna's and security cameras around his house and a paranoia of having tresspassers.


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: DaveF on December 28, 2020, 11:51:44 AM
...I'd guess that he was just suicidally depressed, without much larger motive, ...

I remember for years seeing stories and discussions about how people tend to get more depressed around the holidays. And those who had issues with depression it got really bad really quickly.
Either it's become less of a problem (doubt it) or a less reported on issue (probably) or I just have tuned a lot of it out (also probably). But I really don't remember seeing as much about it in the last few years.

-Dave


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: BADecker on December 28, 2020, 01:43:42 PM
The media and the government always seem to want to hide the truth. But average people are finding out how to use the same surveillance equipment and logical thinking that government uses, so that we can all see the truth.


It’s not the same RV! Official narrative of Nashville “suicide bomber” melts away as RV supposedly used in the bombing found to have different stripe accents (https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-12-27-its-not-the-same-rv-official-narrative-of-nashville-suicide-bomber.html#)



The joke of the day is that after analyzing the DNA of the “human remains” found at the scene of the Nashville bomb, the FBI has just declared the bomber “died of covid.”

Given the level of blatant disinformation being pushed by the deep state and a compliant fake news media, no one would be surprised to hear the FBI announce such an absurdity, perhaps followed by Anthony Fauci claiming that if you don’t get a vaccine, your vehicle might explode.

But something else just as absurd has now been found by internet sleuths: The RV used in the bombing doesn’t match the RV found in the driveway of the supposed perpetrator.

The difference isn’t even subtle. It’s obvious.

With a hat tip to WhatDoesItMean.com, which pointed out this stunning observation, we can see that the RV depicted in the photo released by law enforcement has a single horizontal pin stripe near the roof, along the entire driver’s side of the vehicle: (see the pin stripe along the edge of the roof)


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Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: franky1 on December 28, 2020, 03:54:53 PM
oh badecker. just have a rest for a week and find some new scripts.

your quoting your conspiracy site that says he died of covid.. that is false and easily debunked.
come on up your game. stop pasting in the silly stupid stuff..

if you want to be a top conspiracy quoter. atleast try to find stuff that actually has some real life relevance and facts.

EG the conspiracy of trump spending $150m of the RNC campaign funds in his last month as president
EG the conspiracy of trump employing his family without them having prior experience of roles
EG how the nashville bomber was signing deeds to his houses to a 29yo woman in california


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: squatz1 on December 28, 2020, 11:09:57 PM
...I'd guess that he was just suicidally depressed, without much larger motive, ...

I remember for years seeing stories and discussions about how people tend to get more depressed around the holidays. And those who had issues with depression it got really bad really quickly.
Either it's become less of a problem (doubt it) or a less reported on issue (probably) or I just have tuned a lot of it out (also probably). But I really don't remember seeing as much about it in the last few years.

-Dave

I’d lean more on the ‘tuning it out’ because it’s just heard so often that no one really even notices it at this point. When you hear about something so often — suicide rates increasing during the holidays — every year it isn’t really news anymore, it’s just something that you hear about all the time.

Makes sense though, as the holidays are typically spent with a lot of family and if you don’t have family / recently lost them, then it’s going to make you feel a LOT more alone then normal.


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: BADecker on December 28, 2020, 11:40:50 PM
oh badecker. just have a rest for a week and find some new scripts.

your quoting your conspiracy site that says he died of covid.. that is false and easily debunked.
come on up your game. stop pasting in the silly stupid stuff..

if you want to be a top conspiracy quoter. atleast try to find stuff that actually has some real life relevance and facts.

EG the conspiracy of trump spending $150m of the RNC campaign funds in his last month as president
EG the conspiracy of trump employing his family without them having prior experience of roles
EG how the nashville bomber was signing deeds to his houses to a 29yo woman in california


Thought you'd like this update.


Orbital weapons platforms reveal Trump is in a WAR much bigger than any election (https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-12-28-situation-update-dec-28th-orbital-weapons-platforms-trump-war.html#)



It is now increasingly clear that the explosion in Nashville was not caused by an RV bomb, nor a conventional missile but rather a “Directed Energy Weapon.”

The evidence for this includes:

*    Former Defense Secretary Mark Esper warning in September that China possessed “killer satellites” and “directed energy weapons” that could threaten the United States.
*    The apparent missile “trail” in the skyline video of Nashville, which is also consistent with a stream of ionized atmosphere and particular matter suspended in the air. (High-powered lasers can transform molecules into plasma.)
*    The large blue “plasma flash” observed on a street-level video camera, an instant before the kinetic explosion. This blue plasma light is consistent with the use of an extremely high-powered, high-altitude laser system that instantly transforms solid matter into its plasma state. This same technology has been used in pilot programs to transform landfill waste into simple elements such as carbon. This process is called “plasma torch gasification” and is considered a “green” technology to eliminate landfill by transforming matter into carbon.
*    Interestingly, this “plasma torch gasification” process, which can also be created by an extremely powerful laser burst, releases huge amounts of hydrogen gas, which is itself explosive in a conventional (chemical) sense. What an observer would see is first a bright blue plasma light, followed by a yellow fireball, followed by black carbon dust all over the ground, and this is what we observe in Nashville.
*    The fact that no explosion crater appeared on the street under the RV, but rather a layer of charred carbon, which is consistent with the aftermath of a plasma state caused by an energy weapon (most likely a laser used for ablation of samples in the laboratory, which would typically be a laser in the 198nm range, or what is called “Deep-UV”. Some ablation lasers also use 266nm.)
*    The US State Dept. has warned that Russia is already testing an anti-satellite missile, which is part of Russia’s defense against the orbital laser weapons possessed by China and the United States.

This topic is covered in more detail in the December 28th Situation Update, embedded below.

Here are the highlights from the podcast:

*    FBI claim of DNA matching from the scene of the explosion carried zero credibility

[more at the site]


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Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: _Miracle on December 29, 2020, 06:09:56 AM
The media and the government always seem to want to hide the truth. But average people are finding out how to use the same surveillance equipment and logical thinking that government uses, so that we can all see the truth.


It’s not the same RV! Official narrative of Nashville “suicide bomber” melts away as RV supposedly used in the bombing found to have different stripe accents (https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-12-27-its-not-the-same-rv-official-narrative-of-nashville-suicide-bomber.html#)



The joke of the day is that after analyzing the DNA of the “human remains” found at the scene of the Nashville bomb, the FBI has just declared the bomber “died of covid.”

Given the level of blatant disinformation being pushed by the deep state and a compliant fake news media, no one would be surprised to hear the FBI announce such an absurdity, perhaps followed by Anthony Fauci claiming that if you don’t get a vaccine, your vehicle might explode.

But something else just as absurd has now been found by internet sleuths: The RV used in the bombing doesn’t match the RV found in the driveway of the supposed perpetrator.

The difference isn’t even subtle. It’s obvious.

With a hat tip to WhatDoesItMean.com, which pointed out this stunning observation, we can see that the RV depicted in the photo released by law enforcement has a single horizontal pin stripe near the roof, along the entire driver’s side of the vehicle: (see the pin stripe along the edge of the roof)


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WOW! Conspiracy theories form fast!

It's all quite eerie and surreal enough on its own so far: a man takes his life by blowing up his rv on Christmas, parked in a public area downtown while playing music (Downtown) and warnings from a loud speaker. You would think there would be enough drama in that all by itself without early conspiracy theories. Plus I'll hold out for the more well formed versions in the following weeks...jk but seriously tho.

On another note: my RV is a little smaller than that one used to be and yes it has a 55 gallon gas tank and 14lbs propane, something I've thought hard about on a few 4th of July outings.


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: BADecker on December 29, 2020, 10:58:02 AM
The media and the government always seem to want to hide the truth. But average people are finding out how to use the same surveillance equipment and logical thinking that government uses, so that we can all see the truth.


It’s not the same RV! Official narrative of Nashville “suicide bomber” melts away as RV supposedly used in the bombing found to have different stripe accents (https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-12-27-its-not-the-same-rv-official-narrative-of-nashville-suicide-bomber.html#)



The joke of the day is that after analyzing the DNA of the “human remains” found at the scene of the Nashville bomb, the FBI has just declared the bomber “died of covid.”

Given the level of blatant disinformation being pushed by the deep state and a compliant fake news media, no one would be surprised to hear the FBI announce such an absurdity, perhaps followed by Anthony Fauci claiming that if you don’t get a vaccine, your vehicle might explode.

But something else just as absurd has now been found by internet sleuths: The RV used in the bombing doesn’t match the RV found in the driveway of the supposed perpetrator.

The difference isn’t even subtle. It’s obvious.

With a hat tip to WhatDoesItMean.com, which pointed out this stunning observation, we can see that the RV depicted in the photo released by law enforcement has a single horizontal pin stripe near the roof, along the entire driver’s side of the vehicle: (see the pin stripe along the edge of the roof)


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WOW! Conspiracy theories form fast!

It's all quite eerie and surreal enough on its own so far: a man takes his life by blowing up his rv on Christmas, parked in a public area downtown while playing music (Downtown) and warnings from a loud speaker. You would think there would be enough drama in that all by itself without early conspiracy theories. Plus I'll hold out for the more well formed versions in the following weeks...jk but seriously tho.

On another note: my RV is a little smaller than that one used to be and yes it has a 55 gallon gas tank and 14lbs propane, something I've thought hard about on a few 4th of July outings.

Conspiracies form a lot faster. If there weren't anomalies and mistakes and falsehoods in the reports, there wouldn't be conspiracy theories. So we see that many of the people who make the official reports are either not thinking, or they are fighting the conspiracies right in the official reports they are making. But possibly, they are simply reporting stuff that doesn't make sense the way their bosses describe, and they are only doing what they are told... making reports this way or that, as their bosses tell them.

However, while I don't personally confirm much of my reporting from these people (Natural News), I know of some of their sources. They often tell you their sources right in a bibliography, or scattered throughout the document, itself. They are pretty good at what they do. But they missed a point on this story, and found it out later.

What point did they miss? They first reported that there was a missile strike. Then they sort-of seemed to backwater on this a little, when they heard the official reports about the RV. Then they found the RV wasn't the same one. Then they found out about the energy blasts from Chinese(?) satellites. Usually they are right on top of things. But you can't win them all.

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Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: franky1 on December 29, 2020, 02:45:48 PM
well atleast badecker admits his conspiracy sites get things wrong 4 times in a row within 4 days.
maybe he should look for other sources.

heck maybe badecker should actually think for himself. like that (now admitted as false) the missile strike. it took me and every other smart person 3 seconds to see the trajectory of the debris was not in a downward motion of a missile but instead an upward motion of debris. maybe instead of blind faith. badecker should have used common sense and logic to realise his conspiracy site was wrong rather than waiting for them to tell him they got it wrong

badecker relies to much on people telling him. and not at all on using his own mind


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: Natsuu on December 30, 2020, 05:17:18 AM
well atleast badecker admits his conspiracy sites get things wrong 4 times in a row within 4 days.
maybe he should look for other sources.

heck maybe badecker should actually think for himself. like that (now admitted as false) the missile strike. it took me and every other smart person 3 seconds to see the trajectory of the debris was not in a downward motion of a missile but instead an upward motion of debris. maybe instead of blind faith. badecker should have used common sense and logic to realise his conspiracy site was wrong rather than waiting for them to tell him they got it wrong

badecker relies to much on people telling him. and not at all on using his own mind

Achievement Unlocked Indeed. I am amazed at how he finds these conspiracies and believes it the moment he sees them, without cross-referencing the ideas in that source. Also amazed on how he watches the videos, without worrying about the time it takes in his day. The dedication is real for this man.
But the question I can't seem to understand is, how can he reject facts just to accept conspiracies as the "real" one.

Anyway, the one he mentioned above with the conspiracy of "dying from covid", just by searching on the surface of the internet, you can found many articles you can cross-reference to say that the bomber died from the bomb and not from covid as he mentioned. In those articles, the one who said it died from bombing is the FBI, whereas he says that "FBI announced that it died from covid"


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: _Miracle on December 30, 2020, 05:43:43 AM
Well BADecker you are one of the more entertaining of C-theorists  (one of my favs :-))

You could expand your info gathering base by adding just a little mainstream from time to time so you can blend the info in.


https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/29/us/nashville-bombing-petula-clark-downtown-song/index.html

https://abcnews.go.com/US/nashville-bombing-suspect-possibly-interested-conspiracy-theories-sources/story?id=74958506

* https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates/warners-girlfriend-warned-police-he-was-building-bombs-in-his-rv-last-year


It looks like Anthony Quinn Warner may have been a fan of conspiracy theories as well.


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: BADecker on December 30, 2020, 06:36:49 PM
Well BADecker you are one of the more entertaining of C-theorists  (one of my favs :-))

You could expand your info gathering base by adding just a little mainstream from time to time so you can blend the info in.


https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/29/us/nashville-bombing-petula-clark-downtown-song/index.html

https://abcnews.go.com/US/nashville-bombing-suspect-possibly-interested-conspiracy-theories-sources/story?id=74958506

* https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates/warners-girlfriend-warned-police-he-was-building-bombs-in-his-rv-last-year


It looks like Anthony Quinn Warner may have been a fan of conspiracy theories as well.


Outside the fact that everybody makes a mistake now and again...

Consider Anthony Fauci. When he said he was lying, are we supposed to believe him or not? I mean, he probably tells the truth now and again. Same with the mainstream media. Enjoy their humor, but sounds like you have been. Are you still a free thinker?


Fauci admits he's been lying to Americans about "herd" immunity (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/297087-2020-12-30-fauci-admits-hes-been-lying-to-americans-about-herd-immunity.htm)



During a recent interview with The New York Times, fake clown "doctor" Anthony Fauci openly admitted that everything he has been saying all this time about "herd" immunity and the need for mass Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccination was a lie aimed at manipulating more of the public into getting jabbed.

Initially, Fauci had claimed that only about 60 percent of Americans needed to be vaccinated in order to eliminate the WuFlu. That percentage gradually crept up over time, however, first to 70 percent, then 75 percent, then 80 percent, then more than 80 percent – Fauci now admitting that he just made up numbers on the fly.

Why did he do this, you are probably thinking to yourself? The garden gnome impersonator now claims that as increasingly more Americans said, at least in polls, that they would agree to get President Donald Trump's "Operation Warp Speed" COVID-19 vaccines, Fauci decided to up the numbers to reflect that.

"When polls said only about half of all Americans would take a vaccine, I was saying herd immunity would take 70 to 75 percent," Fauci is quoted as saying. "Then, when newer surveys said 60 percent or more would take it, I thought, 'I can nudge this up a bit,' so I went to 80, 85."


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Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: Natsuu on December 31, 2020, 06:42:17 AM
Well BADecker you are one of the more entertaining of C-theorists  (one of my favs :-))

You could expand your info gathering base by adding just a little mainstream from time to time so you can blend the info in.


https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/29/us/nashville-bombing-petula-clark-downtown-song/index.html

https://abcnews.go.com/US/nashville-bombing-suspect-possibly-interested-conspiracy-theories-sources/story?id=74958506

* https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates/warners-girlfriend-warned-police-he-was-building-bombs-in-his-rv-last-year


It looks like Anthony Quinn Warner may have been a fan of conspiracy theories as well.


Outside the fact that everybody makes a mistake now and again...

Consider Anthony Fauci. When he said he was lying, are we supposed to believe him or not? I mean, he probably tells the truth now and again. Same with the mainstream media. Enjoy their humor, but sounds like you have been. Are you still a free thinker?


Fauci admits he's been lying to Americans about "herd" immunity (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/297087-2020-12-30-fauci-admits-hes-been-lying-to-americans-about-herd-immunity.htm)



During a recent interview with The New York Times, fake clown "doctor" Anthony Fauci openly admitted that everything he has been saying all this time about "herd" immunity and the need for mass Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccination was a lie aimed at manipulating more of the public into getting jabbed.

Initially, Fauci had claimed that only about 60 percent of Americans needed to be vaccinated in order to eliminate the WuFlu. That percentage gradually crept up over time, however, first to 70 percent, then 75 percent, then 80 percent, then more than 80 percent – Fauci now admitting that he just made up numbers on the fly.

Why did he do this, you are probably thinking to yourself? The garden gnome impersonator now claims that as increasingly more Americans said, at least in polls, that they would agree to get President Donald Trump's "Operation Warp Speed" COVID-19 vaccines, Fauci decided to up the numbers to reflect that.

"When polls said only about half of all Americans would take a vaccine, I was saying herd immunity would take 70 to 75 percent," Fauci is quoted as saying. "Then, when newer surveys said 60 percent or more would take it, I thought, 'I can nudge this up a bit,' so I went to 80, 85."


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This articles feels like that doctor was claiming that he invented the term herd immunity. When it is used for animals to immunized from diseases. It is pretty much a theorized application to human as observed in animals.

If you think about it, herd immunity can be pretty much a solution but is really not a solution, as this only somehow prevents the transmission of the virus from one to another. But as soon as the person with the virus, are in contact with someone who is not immune, then herd immunity is not suitable.

I can't think of a reason why would they suggest this kind of solution in the first place, when they can suggest everyone take the vaccine instead.


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: BADecker on December 31, 2020, 03:53:48 PM
Well BADecker you are one of the more entertaining of C-theorists  (one of my favs :-))

You could expand your info gathering base by adding just a little mainstream from time to time so you can blend the info in.


https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/29/us/nashville-bombing-petula-clark-downtown-song/index.html

https://abcnews.go.com/US/nashville-bombing-suspect-possibly-interested-conspiracy-theories-sources/story?id=74958506

* https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates/warners-girlfriend-warned-police-he-was-building-bombs-in-his-rv-last-year


It looks like Anthony Quinn Warner may have been a fan of conspiracy theories as well.


Outside the fact that everybody makes a mistake now and again...

Consider Anthony Fauci. When he said he was lying, are we supposed to believe him or not? I mean, he probably tells the truth now and again. Same with the mainstream media. Enjoy their humor, but sounds like you have been. Are you still a free thinker?


Fauci admits he's been lying to Americans about "herd" immunity (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/297087-2020-12-30-fauci-admits-hes-been-lying-to-americans-about-herd-immunity.htm)



During a recent interview with The New York Times, fake clown "doctor" Anthony Fauci openly admitted that everything he has been saying all this time about "herd" immunity and the need for mass Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccination was a lie aimed at manipulating more of the public into getting jabbed.

Initially, Fauci had claimed that only about 60 percent of Americans needed to be vaccinated in order to eliminate the WuFlu. That percentage gradually crept up over time, however, first to 70 percent, then 75 percent, then 80 percent, then more than 80 percent – Fauci now admitting that he just made up numbers on the fly.

Why did he do this, you are probably thinking to yourself? The garden gnome impersonator now claims that as increasingly more Americans said, at least in polls, that they would agree to get President Donald Trump's "Operation Warp Speed" COVID-19 vaccines, Fauci decided to up the numbers to reflect that.

"When polls said only about half of all Americans would take a vaccine, I was saying herd immunity would take 70 to 75 percent," Fauci is quoted as saying. "Then, when newer surveys said 60 percent or more would take it, I thought, 'I can nudge this up a bit,' so I went to 80, 85."


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This articles feels like that doctor was claiming that he invented the term herd immunity. When it is used for animals to immunized from diseases. It is pretty much a theorized application to human as observed in animals.

If you think about it, herd immunity can be pretty much a solution but is really not a solution, as this only somehow prevents the transmission of the virus from one to another. But as soon as the person with the virus, are in contact with someone who is not immune, then herd immunity is not suitable.

I can't think of a reason why would they suggest this kind of solution in the first place, when they can suggest everyone take the vaccine instead.

When people realize that vaccination is the cause of immune system weakness, they will re-think the whole idea of being vaccinated. The term "herd immunity" was invented by the medical to make the idea of vaccination something that people will need to have.

True herd immunity is a good thought or idea. But it doesn't come from vaccination. Rather, it comes from being nutritionally healthy, just like a herd can be. You don't get a herd of animals going around in nature and finding natural vaccinations.

Lockdowns and masks are against herd immunity. They are a separation of the herd so that it is no longer a herd. Lockdowns and masks are being used to get people to focus on vaccination so that the medical can make money.

True herd immunity is nutritional health, and getting together to spread the cheer among each other in the herd, in placebo effect form.

8)


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: Natsuu on January 01, 2021, 07:57:32 AM
~SNIP~

This articles feels like that doctor was claiming that he invented the term herd immunity. When it is used for animals to immunized from diseases. It is pretty much a theorized application to human as observed in animals.

If you think about it, herd immunity can be pretty much a solution but is really not a solution, as this only somehow prevents the transmission of the virus from one to another. But as soon as the person with the virus, are in contact with someone who is not immune, then herd immunity is not suitable.

I can't think of a reason why would they suggest this kind of solution in the first place, when they can suggest everyone take the vaccine instead.

When people realize that vaccination is the cause of immune system weakness, they will re-think the whole idea of being vaccinated. The term "herd immunity" was invented by the medical to make the idea of vaccination something that people will need to have.

True herd immunity is a good thought or idea. But it doesn't come from vaccination. Rather, it comes from being nutritionally healthy, just like a herd can be. You don't get a herd of animals going around in nature and finding natural vaccinations.

Lockdowns and masks are against herd immunity. They are a separation of the herd so that it is no longer a herd. Lockdowns and masks are being used to get people to focus on vaccination so that the medical can make money.

True herd immunity is nutritional health, and getting together to spread the cheer among each other in the herd, in placebo effect form.

8)

Oh, I see, that's why military personnel are really strong because of the different kinds of vaccinations they took while being deployed. I can see very clear that their immune system is really strong :)

The only thing I can see that people realizes in these days, is how dumb to believe that vaccines causes immune disfunction and illness.


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: Natsuu on January 01, 2021, 07:58:51 AM
~SNIP~

This articles feels like that doctor was claiming that he invented the term herd immunity. When it is used for animals to immunized from diseases. It is pretty much a theorized application to human as observed in animals.

If you think about it, herd immunity can be pretty much a solution but is really not a solution, as this only somehow prevents the transmission of the virus from one to another. But as soon as the person with the virus, are in contact with someone who is not immune, then herd immunity is not suitable.

I can't think of a reason why would they suggest this kind of solution in the first place, when they can suggest everyone take the vaccine instead.

When people realize that vaccination is the cause of immune system weakness, they will re-think the whole idea of being vaccinated. The term "herd immunity" was invented by the medical to make the idea of vaccination something that people will need to have.

True herd immunity is a good thought or idea. But it doesn't come from vaccination. Rather, it comes from being nutritionally healthy, just like a herd can be. You don't get a herd of animals going around in nature and finding natural vaccinations.

Lockdowns and masks are against herd immunity. They are a separation of the herd so that it is no longer a herd. Lockdowns and masks are being used to get people to focus on vaccination so that the medical can make money.

True herd immunity is nutritional health, and getting together to spread the cheer among each other in the herd, in placebo effect form.

8)

Oh, I see, that's why military personnel are really strong because of the different kinds of vaccinations they took while being deployed. I can see very clear that their immune system is really strong :)

The only thing I can see that people realizes in these days, is how dumb to believe that vaccines causes immune disfunction and illness.


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: tvbcof on January 01, 2021, 08:31:04 AM

Oh, I see, that's why military personnel are really strong because of the different kinds of vaccinations they took while being deployed. I can see very clear that their immune system is really strong :)

The only thing I can see that people realizes in these days, is how dumb to believe that vaccines causes immune disfunction and illness.


I must admit that I've never caught Bubonic Plague so I guess that proves that the vaccines to work!

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/X2MMk3cWKZQr/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/X2MMk3cWKZQr/)

I've vetted Dr. Nicolson extensively because of the nature of this content and found him to be HIGHLY legit.



Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: _Miracle on January 01, 2021, 09:58:45 AM



Outside the fact that everybody makes a mistake now and again...

Consider Anthony Fauci. When he said he was lying, are we supposed to believe him or not? I mean, he probably tells the truth now and again. Same with the mainstream media. Enjoy their humor, but sounds like you have been. Are you still a free thinker?


Fauci admits he's been lying to Americans about "herd" immunity (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/297087-2020-12-30-fauci-admits-hes-been-lying-to-americans-about-herd-immunity.htm)



During a recent interview with The New York Times, fake clown "doctor" Anthony Fauci openly admitted that everything he has been saying all this time about "herd" immunity and the need for mass Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccination was a lie aimed at manipulating more of the public into getting jabbed.

Initially, Fauci had claimed that only about 60 percent of Americans needed to be vaccinated in order to eliminate the WuFlu. That percentage gradually crept up over time, however, first to 70 percent, then 75 percent, then 80 percent, then more than 80 percent – Fauci now admitting that he just made up numbers on the fly.

Why did he do this, you are probably thinking to yourself? The garden gnome impersonator now claims that as increasingly more Americans said, at least in polls, that they would agree to get President Donald Trump's "Operation Warp Speed" COVID-19 vaccines, Fauci decided to up the numbers to reflect that.

"When polls said only about half of all Americans would take a vaccine, I was saying herd immunity would take 70 to 75 percent," Fauci is quoted as saying. "Then, when newer surveys said 60 percent or more would take it, I thought, 'I can nudge this up a bit,' so I went to 80, 85."



Outside the fact that everybody makes a mistake now and again...

Are you still a free thinker?



I consider myself a person who is curious and interested in the things going on around me. Where they are heading and how they came to be.
I read several books a month, have no cable but follow many different news stories. From time to time I'll do the rabbit hole spiral just to read potentially different perspectives and see how out there it gets.
I grew up with a paranoid  schizophrenic mother so I don't tend to enjoy going down those darker rabbit holes too often.


Sure, if you consider free thinking as the process of gathering information followed by a healthy dose of reason to deduce that anyone claiming to have back/channel secret information about a case like this' so soon into an investigation is either: full of BS, leaking info they should be fired for sharing or close enough to be a person of interest.

much of the online chat rooms and vlogs are Information for entertainment and attentions sake.

I don't put heavy weight on anything Fauchi says since he seamed to be bending to Trump too much earlier on.

I'll just stick with the same sources I've had for over a decade when it comes to covid-19, vaccines and infectious diseases in general


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: BADecker on January 03, 2021, 03:59:07 AM
^^^ That's exactly the thing that I like... people making their own choice without taking their head out of the sand. After all, what counts is making a choice.

8)


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: Gyfts on January 03, 2021, 06:42:51 AM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/12/31/nashville-bombing-police-2019-bomber-tip-criticized/4097885001/

Article talks about Nashville PD but there's also articles you can find about the FBI being tipped off about this guy and doing nothing.

Remember the Stoneman Douglas High School shooting where the FBI was tipped off about the shooter and failed to act?

Almost as if there's a pattern involved or some sort of incompetency at the FBI.


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: _Miracle on January 03, 2021, 08:26:49 AM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/12/31/nashville-bombing-police-2019-bomber-tip-criticized/4097885001/

Article talks about Nashville PD but there's also articles you can find about the FBI being tipped off about this guy and doing nothing.

Remember the Stoneman Douglas High School shooting where the FBI was tipped off about the shooter and failed to act?

Almost as if there's a pattern involved or some sort of incompetency at the FBI.


I think it's easier for us in retrospect to make a judgment on how the bomb threat got handled and maybe changes will come from this but on the other hand:
How much weight would you put on an ex making what seemed to be extraordinary claims? How much weight was going into investigating posts on 8chan before they became mass shooter events?


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: franky1 on January 04, 2021, 04:17:19 AM
I think it's easier for us in retrospect to make a judgment on how the bomb threat got handled and maybe changes will come from this but on the other hand:
How much weight would you put on an ex making what seemed to be extraordinary claims? How much weight was going into investigating posts on 8chan before they became mass shooter events?

funny part that conspiracy nutters wont accept
the tip off was due to phone conversations between the bomber and the tipster weeks months prior. so if the one world order government was monitoring calls they would have got the tip before the tipster called the FBI

but reality is that calls are not actively monitored. swat teams are not automatically called. guys threatening things are not automatically locked up

conspiracy nutters think government can watch all vehicles and scan for bombs.. yet governments cant even find missing planes.

conspracy nutters need to realise that governments are not surveilling as much as their paranoia thinks they do


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: tvbcof on January 04, 2021, 04:29:01 AM

What's funny is that there are newspaper articles with headlines indicating the 'bombing' might be related to the guy's (patsy's?) hypothetical paranoia about 5G.  When you actually read the actual story where they interview the guy's clients they say 'Nice guy.  No, he never mentioned 5G or anything like that.'

Looks kind of like a psy-op to tamp down on discussions of the safety of the wireless technology rollouts and to justify increase monitoring of people generally among other things.

I forgot to put 5G on my list of things that this hoax was possibly targeting.  My bad.



Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: suchmoon on January 04, 2021, 04:32:26 AM
Almost as if there's a pattern involved or some sort of incompetency at the FBI.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but if the FBI started kicking doors every time someone says something it would be far worse than an occasional nutjob slipping through. Most of the time you don't even hear about the ones they catch in the planning stages.


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on January 04, 2021, 04:44:33 AM

Article talks about Nashville PD but there's also articles you can find about the FBI being tipped off about this guy and doing nothing.

The FBI ran a background check on the person and was unable to find any information connecting him to criminal activity or the military or bomb making.

The RV was apparently behind a fence and law enforcement was unable to see inside the RV. I understand that there wasn’t any crime alleged that the person committed. There needs to be probable cause that the person committed a crime to obtain a search warrant.

I understand that law enforcement tried to make contact with the person, but he would not answer the door.


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: tvbcof on January 04, 2021, 04:49:11 AM
Almost as if there's a pattern involved or some sort of incompetency at the FBI.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but if the FBI started kicking doors every time someone says something it would be far worse than an occasional nutjob slipping through. Most of the time you don't even hear about the ones they catch in the planning stages.

That's because almost without exception, the 'planning phase' are FBI agents trying to get some handicapped person trained to push a button.

https://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2013/01/lights-camera-entrapment-homeland.html (https://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2013/01/lights-camera-entrapment-homeland.html)



Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: WinBitcoins.Casino on January 04, 2021, 10:16:58 AM
It has become so unsafe now in USA. Things should definitely be changed.


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: franky1 on January 04, 2021, 03:53:04 PM
to have suicided himself in such a manner shows he had some mental issues.
many people with mental issues that walk into a coffee shop and buy a coffee wont cause any concern for the barista. so using a barista's account 'he seemed normal' is empty. the barista is not a psychologist nor had hours of reviewing the guy.

what is not important is the delusions of 5g as thats a wide spread paranoia by conspiracy sites promoting to the weak minds. it has no merit or substance and is just a myth spread by cultish people

what is more interesting is the house deed transfers to a woman in california. as that is a weird action outside of the norm.
maybe we will never have answers to the reasons to transfer ownership to a supposed a stranger. but this line of investigating is more interesting than the empty of merit conspiracy rabbit hole of 5g.


Title: Re: Strange Nashville bombing
Post by: _Miracle on August 13, 2021, 08:20:30 AM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/08/12/california-father-accused-of-killing-children/8115453002/




California man charged with killing his children claimed he was ‘enlightened by QAnon’, FBI says

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/12/california-matthew-coleman-children-killed