Bitcoin Forum

We all know that it was a very popular forum back in 2017-2018.

after that, every altcoin announcement and project was like a total scam, Every new member became a copper member for management of a project.
 I mean why isn't there any rules for this?
Every day there is so many coins launched in the market but they didn't even know about this forum.

Introducing copper memberships was actually just the forum owners capitalizing on the forum traffic, especially from newbies who could not earn merit to rank up. While the cost wasn't really much, it may have given some dough to the forum. I was frankly surprised by this because one would hope that forum owners would be OGs with enough Bitcoin. That does not seem to be the case.

As far as scams are concerned, this forum is still the best place to get decent bitcoiners interested in your project, if you are a decent project. For scam projects, the whole crypto industry has become an easy spray and pray venture. You keep churning out scams and wsbsites snd TG groups and keep raking in the moolah. Unfortunately, there is nothing to stop you if you are good at it.

Because we live in a free environment,
if you have money, you can easily buy a copper membership.

Anyway,
I don't cover those scam projects coz I was also a victim of them but just want to twist that mindest of the people thinking that every new project launch is worthless and scamming. No, that it never means and not all new projects are a scam, only it happens that they failed to give our expectations.

It's up to us if we would like to invest or not because in the first place, nobody is forcing us to buy their products but we are.

What rules do you mean, if you are talking about forum rules on scam/fake projects, take note that scam is unmoderated, it's your responsibility to DYOR and consider the project you'll like to either advertise or Invest in; if you're of the realization that most altcoins are scam & pump and dump/hype coins, then why are you looking for rules to avoid them, just select good alts like eth and invest alongside btc, that's a good strategy imo.
I don't quite understand what you mean, there are quite a lot of projects that come to the forum to advertise their ICO and other whatnots, but it's not a must they all must advertise here and even if they are scam projects, it wouldn't change anything nor will it stop them from scamming users if they advertise here, as the responsibility is still with the users to do their own research.

Do you want this scamming to stop ?

Then Stop promoting their Projects , You come here asking about this but you are wearing a Bounty Signature ?

Scamming will lessen and eventually Stop  If Bounty hunters stop helping them to promote their Scam projects .

even if you don't intend this to happen ,But you are part of their Scamming Success ,because without you promoting and advertising their project They will gain no popularity .

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Imagine Since 2017 ,from the creation of that account you already a Bounty hunter Yet asking this here?

You should have learn from those years , and Make your way not to become a victim.

You wanna know the truth mate? The sad thing is that scams will never stop. It is we that should adjust in encountering these scams and how to manage ourselves in this situation. Not just in crypto, but in all life aspects, scams are always there. I know how it feels to get scammed, because we all have been there before. Both our time and money are scammed, but it is all about learning our lessons and moving on to be better decision makers later on if we encounter any of these scammy opportunities again in our emails, Telegram, etc.

I think no one can find who is real or who is fake. Scam are everywhere even in our physical life so it will not stop. Its your responsibility to make sure that you are not being scammed by know about the project and search everything about it

This is very true, so many scams have been going round this forum for many years, like the poster said, it all start very badly after crypto boom in 2017/2018, since then, 9 out of 10 projects sooner or later turns scams, this is if it's not an outright scam, this is very sad for crypto in general cus the bad news for me is that I don't see this stopping anytime soon.
But all the same, we all have to be very careful when investing in new projects and also research very well before deciding which project to participate in its bounty program.

First of all, scams are not moderated here which is already mentioned in the forum rules so don't expect the forum to stop these scammers, but still, there is a system called trust system which can warn other forum members about scammers and potential scammers if they involved in any shady activities.

This forum is for bitcoin so not every shit project supposed to announce their launch here, if they want they can so there is no obligation.

It's a whole new level of risky project if they can't provide a link to their ANN thread on this forum, don't give such project a face at all, there are hundreds of such projects on Twitter and some people are buying such coins and tokens, if we are ever going to choose the right projects it's on us, we have to put in more effort to recognize better reliable crypto projects

I think Copper membership was put in place incase you are a newbie and want to post images, you don't need to pay or incentivize anyone to post for you, pay the membership and you are fine, I have no issue with this. People complaining about scam on this forum need to realize that scammers are everywhere, Twitter, Facebook etc. A lot of people have lost fortune because of their own greediness and naivety

As a new project emerges, they join the forum with a newbie account. Thus, they choose to purchase the copper membership that allows them to post any relevant details, like a picture related to their project. In such a way, they can effectively present their ideas and objectives to the investors. But remember, it does not mean that the project is reliable. Hence, you still need to conduct an inquiry to validate its reputation.

They are not required to join the forum to promote their project as there are alternative methods. However, it is way better to propose it here because there is a specific section in the forum where they can freely discuss their project. Besides that, they can gain some criticisms and remarks that may help the development of their project.

What kinds of rules then? rules about what? rules about not scamming? how do you distinguish between a scammer and a legit project? It's hard right? that's why we can only do our diligence on research about a certain project and raise a flag against them if you found sufficient evidence.

Besides, even if theymos prohibit newbies or copper members from announcing new projects or new bounties, scammers can just try to buy an account so they can bypass this.

In my opinion, it is difficult to stop scammers because the scammers are constantly looking for ways to attract other people to invest in their coins, therefore we should be able to avoid scam projects by stopping to promote their Scam projects.

I think a scam project is not going to be easy to just stop. Because after all, a project that might fail in the middle of the road is also very potential to become a scam. Moreover, there are also more and more newcomers whose knowledge and knowledge are not yet extensive about crypto. So they will be the main target of scammers. That is why studying first seriously will be the best way, instead of plunging into nothing and getting stuck in the end. Better to prepare before deciding to really join crypto.

That's why there's what you called scam accusations board. There are users here who are diligently exposing potential scam projects by publishing their plagiarized whitepaper, fake team members or even those running ponzi schemes. Those projects employing or using fake team members have high likelihood of screwing investors as they can disappear anytime without divulging their identities. In regard with plagiarized wp, it means, these scammers have no time to create their own so they are just copying someone else's work and just changing the name of the project. These scams will not stop up until there are naive users that will keep buying their crap coins. If no one will buy those coins, I guess scams will subside eventually.

logically there are no scammers who admit at first, they will claim to be legitimate to us, even though they intend to scam in the future, therefore before we join the bounty program please always do research so that we don't get involved in plunging many people into fraudulent projects.
quite difficult to detect a scam project at the beginning.

Well as we all know, this is deregulated space called cryptocurrency has no set of rules that would dictate how one behaves in the cryptocurrency ecosystem. That is why scams are abound because anonymous people still makes them and people are still victimized unfortunately. What needs to be done at this point is really to determine which are scams and which are not and we should have accumulated all these years of experience with this.

I think manager need to judge before launching the project if he wanna become popular .However it is so easy to being a copper member id and launching a fake project so before joining any bounty hunter should research themselves or look into scam accusation it can be protect the spreading of scam project .

The problem is it's difficult to differentiate between a good and bad project. Unless something is proved to be a scam, projects may fall in any category in the perception of the person who looks over.
As it is a forum, everyone expects free share of ideas and projects. The more you try to regulate or control it, the more controversies arise. Moderating is a difficult job. We have seen a lot of drama on every forum including this one for every strong move the mod makes.

Actually it is very simple to understand this, because launching a coin or token does not necessarily have to create a kind of campaign in this forum, because many projects launch coins without creating a campaign, and they are successful and still survive in a market with very trading volume not bad.

because it is difficult to choose a project that is said to be a scam. need a reference and also a very sophisticated detector. In this forum, of course, there are a lot of scam projects that are scattered, and therefore we all here must also participate in destroying the project in order to maintain the stability of the forum. we can easily post reports indicating a project scam, so moderators can take action immediately.

I dont get it. You dont like that users could become copper members and create an ANN topic easily. Or you dont like that while lots of projects are launched, only few create ANN topics here and among those created topics, part are scam? Well, not every project need a promotion and some wish to be anonymous.

Copper member accounts were created so affordable, so that projects can represent them selves instantly and make presentation attractive. If you dont like that a lot of projects are scam - turn yourself into scam hunter. Check every created topic/project. 

I disagree with this although there are some scam, it's not true that they don't know bitcointalk, in fact, all the legitimate ico and coins were advertised here, maybe they pretend that they don't know the forum because they know that people here are checking their project if it's legit or not, and they might be discovered their scheme, there are lots of campaign and announcement here, and as far as I know this forum is well known.

there is nothing that can be done to stop the scam, unless we do our own research beforehand on what we want to invest, no one forces you to buy anything here, this is purely the responsibility of each individual.
as for this forum has stopped many of these activities but it is impossible for all of them to be covered.

From the past until now there have been many scam projects here and of course this makes bounty hunters feel uneasy,
The bounty hunters must really learn from the existing experience so that they are easily caught in a scam project

Crypto can never end a scam. Open to everyone here. Anyone who creates an account can bring any type of project. But users have to be careful and work with caution. Especially where you can get more profit by investing less, you should never invest in all those places.

It's your money to take care so better to do your own research before placing your investment. No one but you who have full responsibilities with every actions that you'll going to take around this investment venue, your knowledge will guide you what to and where to invest your hard earned money.


With doing your research, it will lessen the chance of being scammed, many projects are being introduced from time to time you have to be more active and alert if you are planning to participate. Deeper understanding saves your butt losing your investment.

Yeah there should be a standard operating procedure or steps to stop low quality and scam projects to get listed on this forum to filter out the bad guys.
Secondly, I think the forum also needs to market itself to the target audience with a fresh approach, may be use cmc or other high traffic platforms ads to attract new and right kind of members and projects to the forum.

That's right, in the crypto world there are no strict rules regarding crypto projects, except in the United States,
there is an SEC that is ready to provide rules for crypto projects, many have become SEC victims,
even RIpple is also currently under SEC investigation, of course if Ripple loses, then this will be the biggest scam in history.

When you bring a project here and launch it, you also have some responsibility to verify some information about that project. You can't keep yourself safe just by imposing everything on investors and bounty hunters. So the manager should be held responsible for unprofessional management. Because a professional manager never launches a project without thoroughly verifying it.

2017 wasn't. But 2018 was full of scam projects which also made many investors stop putting themselves into it. That made the death of ico.

They could be focusing elsewhere and it's not a problem if they are not with the forum. They are free to choose their path in which forum or website they will be launching their projects.

I don't get which is your problem,  the fact that there are copper members or the fact there are new projects launching in the market?
You have to understand that it is not that easy to determine the good project from the bad, I admit it is important this new projects are subjected to some form of validation process to check their authenticity but this will be a really pressing job for the forum admin, reason why it is important to do your own research.

There is no way to prevent them.although a few projects are good but first they need to come here for their promotion right? But there are some restrictions for newbie user.that's why project manager need to buy copper memberships to Prevent those restrictions or hire high rank member.anyone can rank up by expense some money and there is no rules about that. Nobody is forcing you to invest, if you make an invest on project then you are responsible for that.although so many DT members are here who always help people by revail the fake project.

It will stop when nobody supports them anymore. It's very important to see people stop supporting such projects because if there's no one that supports them, they'll stop and understands that there is zero market and no potential for them to grow.
But it's hard to make it happen when other investors and bounty hunters don't look to projects that they buy and participate.

You mean that the forum should ban BM with a newbie rank or cooper member? I support if there will be a rule like this but unfortunately it will never happen and scammers will never stop until whenever. They will do everything they can to succeed in their task

This forum helps alot in determining a project whether their legit or not, it's also good to know if they have done something wrong or didn't pay their rewards even when the whitepaper or part of their website is just copy paste we will know here in forum. Project managers may not familiar with this forum but what important is crypto enthusiast as well the investors know this forum and uses in their advancement not to get scam.

Have you ever asked some bounty hunters to stop wearing and participating scam projects. That they have to take a look at deeper what and who's behind the project that you plan to promote.
Invest at your own risk, the forum can't monitor all of these suspicious projects, not unless If someone would actually open a scam accusations on the right board.
There's always a rule against scam, but scammers always finds a way to make it less suspicious.

Rules for what bounty managing?
That is why we are also responsible for our actions we shouldn't just blame the manager for handling a scam campaign because they are also a victim.
We should chose carefully since there are so many scams.
That is the only way to avoid being scam don't just join any campaign choose wisely.

The interesting fact is that scams cannot be stopped and will always exist, therefore always be careful in choosing projects.
Do some research before choosing projects, at least this will help us find out which projects are legitimate. Regarding the rules of
this forum to overcome scams, it has been done, but scammers always find loopholes to do scams. So if you really want to avoid
scams, you don't need to join a bounty campaign and invest in Bitcoin to make money.

It's not all of the BM that came from the newbies were scammers and this is the problem. newbie or junior members account were part of forum. You can do nothing about that.
You should not think what will not happen. Even if there were no newbies and the scammers will always exist.
people should DYOR before they wanna do anything with it.

For sure, demand comes first before supply so if we want to get rid of this sort of supply there should be almost no demand, which is not the case for now.
Scam projects will occur as long as there are people who are willing to fall for their tricks.

Scamming never stop even in the centralized system where there is certain authority that used be reported to them. Did scammer stop? No, no one can stop someone to scam and that is one sad reality especially here in crypto space. The best to do is to keep aware of all scam activities and avoid to it as much as possible.

The scam will stop if crypto doesn't exist :D There is no way to stop scammers but we can minimize the number of scammers who come every day
How to? that is, be in yourself by doing a project analysis and don't be lured into projects that promise something very big

that's not true even when crypto didn't exist and there will always be scammers. It looks strange if you never heard the scammers in another instrument like stock or something else. You will find a bunch of scammers too. The only due diligence is a way to protect people from scammers.
In another side when scammers wanna try to scam people and people know what they must do that.

Scams have been here before we came to this community and every year, they came with a new strategy. The only thing the community can do is to warn the other members about the managers of the campaign by red-tagging them but today it seems they find another way by spending little amount to fool their investors both time and money. They just need to create some accounts and pay some little fees to be able to create their fake project thread so that the other people think they are promoting a legit project. But if you have been here long enough and knows how those scammers trick the other people, you can also warn others by posting to those bounty threads to warn the others.

Scams will never seize to exists because crypto is like a neverland to scammers now, money is flowing in and out of crypto so it's certain that fake tokens, con artists, bad devs will be available too, it's left for investors like us to learn how to identify the real projects out of the pools of bad projects, it's never going to be easy but it's also not impossible

As cryptocurrency is all about being anonymous, the situation with scams is like "fighting fire with fire". There are two ways to stop scam - projects stop to appear on the forum or run promotional campaigns here. Plus all the devs and inventors stop doing anything. Just drop their work, skills, sit on the sofa and watch TV. Second option - users stop participating in bounties and investing in crypto. Both options are impossible to implement.

there may be no end, as long as they have the opportunity then they will. Maybe for them it is very easy to get money but they do not think about how much harm they get from the victim

We can conclude that crypto arouses the greatest ambitions, desires to change lives and improvements in your personal financial system. Therefore, we can expect the worst manifestations of these desires because the technology behind it's capable of transcending the current growth alternatives. Gradually look at the price of Bitcoin and altcoins.

And we will have an answer.

maybe they don't include it here, because there are some successful projects even without having an ann or other program in this forum, because they already have enough community according to them to market their project.
in short, the forum cannot be used as a reason for a project to be successful or not.

Take note that Bitcoin is decentralized. It has been made so we can transact freely without the help of Banks.
We are in a world where everybody can do anything they want and that includes scamming of investors.

Can we do anything about it?? No and there is nothing we can do about it. Different people are being scammed every day or every week all around the globe. What we can do is to learn, not be ignorant and not get attract too fast with the returns that they can give or their sweet words. I know that you are disappointed to see different projects that became a scam but just move on. At least you aren't scammed right??

Scam will not end. As long as there are ignorant and newbie investors around the world, scammers will do everything to scam them :).

The scammer will not stop scamming you, no matter if the rules are very strict to control the scammers. They will figure out how to scam more people in the crypto world. There will be many new people join in the crypto world, and many of them lack information about how to make money from the crypto. That will be a nice target for the scammers to trick them. Even if there is a BM that controls the participants who join with the bounty, that will not stop the scammers to run away with the investor's money.

The assumption is that if you are spending some of your money to purchase a Copper Membership, then you will be careful with your posts. If a Copper Member indulges in a scam and a DT member flags him, then the effort and money spent on building that profile is lost. Now this doesn't work 100% of the time, but the truth is that Copper Membership did prevented a lot of scams.

It is more like Bitcoin price growth prevented a lot of scam. With the price of 129280sat, Copper Member now cost around 34-35 USD, which is kinda costly for those who seek for easy money. Those people spend less than 10$ for a domain registration, use templates for webpage and 10-20$ for a whitepaper rewrite (greedy one try to create whitepaper by themselves, but they are easily caught for plagiarism). Spending same budget on just a forum account is a lot for that kind of people. But those who can afford to spend that kind of money, Copper Membership wont help.

Are all bounties scam? If yes why are you wearing as.exchnage signature code? The advice you passed unto others is too harsh I believe, not all bounties are scam projects you could have just warn him or her (OP) to do research on projects before promoting them, not telling people to quit promoting projects

Scams in this crypto space has come a very long way and has lasted for a long time, even till now it is coming up in more advanced ways which ranges from airdrops to bounties and even most projects which were thought as good projects; so where can one actually start from. However, I think the best way to start from is doing our best to verify most projects before getting involved, even if it is airdrops, make sure the team are serious and so on. Also, the best way to reduce scams is when we stop running after hyped projects, taking the DeFi projects as a case study, it started on a good note but today, we have seen various levels of scams and many are still coming up today; so the best way still remains making your own research first and investing the funds you can afford to lose.
Lastly the same way some scam projects leveraged this forum to succeed is the same way some legit projects leveraged this forum to succeed as well, but however the most preferred way to run away from scams without taking chances is by going for top coins like Bitcoin and Ethereum.

Agreed. Those who used to scam using Copper Membership accounts earlier were mostly low-level scammers, who usually have a very small budget. You are right in stating that the membership has become more unaffordable to them. But it won't have any impact on the innovative scammers with larger budget. These people usually purchase Bitcointalk memberships (Sr.Member or higher), and use these accounts for their scams. Sometimes the DT members flag these accounts, if they notice that the account has suddenly become active after an extended period of dormancy. But most of the time, they go unnoticed. 

it is difficult to make scammers stop in the crypto world, every year there will definitely be a scam project, and for me the most sinister history is about bitconnect scammers, Bitconnect was in the top altcoin coinmarketcap first, and after being labeled as a scammer, Bitconnect's price immediately fell sharply, And in 2021 the Ripple case reminds me again, because Xrp is down 100% since they were investigated by the SEC. really terrible

It is not necessary to advertise here, numerous projects out there without passing through this platform for advertisement. It all depends on the team and their marketing strategies.

We can not stop the scam projects in the forum because they are also members here who can freely post in the bounty section or the altcoin announcement. It would be good if the moderators checking the project and will delete the thread if spotted a scam but it's not their job to doing that, so the only way to prevent you to scam is to research the project.

The decentralization era does value that each and every individual can open and launch his own project, there's no solution to prevent the users from launching scam projects but in the other side, we should raise the awareness of investors in order to reduce the scam attemps/accidents. Each and every user of cryptocurrencies can be scammed, unfortunately.

I think when you are spending money on copper membership, you are either already a scammer that managed to get some money, or you are willing to risk it and spend money on a scamming project you have, which is weird and unlikely because most of the time scammers are not super rich people, they become scammers BECAUSE they do not have money. In any case I believe it is not about the copper membership, it is about scammers realizing there is too much money to be made from crypto at this point.

I could literally just create a token with 21 million tokens available, sell and distribute 20 million of them, and keep that 1 million for myself, spend all the money I made on marketing (well even half would be enough) and I could sell my 1 million tokens when the price is high and get out. That would be enough to make few million dollars very easily, you could probably make a lot more if you want to.

now we have difficulty distinguishing between real projects and scam projects, the reason is that now even scam projects even have roadmaps, whitepapers and all things that almost resemble real projects and this is one of the causes that causes many bounty participants to get trapped in project scams now including myself, now even many projects that have registered tokens on the market do not pay their bounty participants at all.

You can't blame this forum or the admins for launch of different projects. A newly launched project can't be flagged as scam just because some people feel it is. I think a separate entity should be set up that will monitor these projects immediately. That's the only way to curb any scam that will pass through here.

No one literally knows what exactly will be the ending of every project for the fact that the team developer is right behind the act if the project will be successful or will turn out to be just a scam one. The spread of scam projects will be minimize and can possibly stop if all will be aware and take responsibility of not promoting scam projects so that people will be saved from getting in touch with those scam ones. Some scam projects are easily detected due to obviousness on the nature and the way of promotion they are executing but there are instances that even a promising project can still surprisingly turns out to be a scam at the end depending really on the project developer themselves.

There is no way to completely eliminate fraudulent projects on this forum. What makes scamers comfortable on this forum apart from investors' money is that most newbies always promote projects that are either clearly fraudulent or marked red by Top Members.
they keep on doing it non-stop, I don't blame it because it's their right. it's just that by not continuing to promote suspicious projects then at least we can reduce the scam among other scams projects.
almost largely inundated by social media campaign bounty hunters. it's like feeding them or giving them space.

I believed those copper membership managers who manage projects in these forum do so to bring some credibility to those projects so as to attract bounty hunters in participating or promotion their projects however these are some tricks which will eventually turned to a scam in most cases however researching deeply about some of these projects will help hunters to detect scams or fraudulent ones however its a pity many hunters don't bother to check for these facts before working for them

Some projects wanted their ann thread to be created by an account with the same name as their project and at the same time manage their bounty campaign.  I don't find any wrong in there since it is what we called part of branding.  So they decided to buy a copper member and create their ann and bounty thread. 

Now with regard to scam project, it is not a good thing to say that all newly announced project in this forum is a scam.  Pointing fingers without any proof is a bad thing.   

The current member status is not number one. If there are traders, engineers, scholars and breeders then we cannot stereotype that scholars in this forum are more honest and experienced than traders and breeders. The point is how his experience, what projects he brought, who joined him so we can judge a project will be a scam or not. So when will the scam stop? When no one can be deceived anymore.

This is the freedom that exists in this forum and everyone can do whatever they can. we don't even know what is real and what is a scam. even though the project is carried by an account that has a legendary rank but that is not a guarantee that the project he manages will be successful, so basically it depends on our carefulness in choosing projects and doing a lot of research.

This is called decentralization.
A lot of projects are scams or are organized by people who have no experience in managing such projects.
If you think the project is fraudulent, you can warn other users about it.
The main idea: "The fool will still lose his money", therefore it is impossible to protect all users from fraud, but only to teach them to think and invest correctly.

we are so frustedted due to these scam i m pised of actually.

Currently, many cryptocurrency fans haven't know about cryptocurrencies. Everyone wants to earn money somehow and they are impatient with their investments. Scam projects will end when everyone is more knowledgeable  :-\

I will give such a proof instead of OP. According to the rules of the forum, scam are not moderated on the forum, so scammers will continue to post their fraudulent projects here. One of the latest scam that I have identified https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5304890 is the Yearnyfi Networ bounty, posted on the forum on December 28, whose team consists of fake members. A fake team is one of the most common types of fraud.

It is never going to stop. Catch a new scam and expose them, five minutes later a new one will pop up. Do you really think people will give up trying to make some quick easy money by scamming dumb people? No they won't. Services that are probably scam aren't moderated. It is not the responsibility of the moderators (as far as  I know) to catch scam. If you see or think something is a scam, you can warn people on that thread. If it is a self moderated thread, you can open your own thread in the appropriate board and warn others. In the end, it is the responsibility of the users to keep them selves safe from such scams.

We all hope that this forum is free from project scams, but it is not possible to do this, because scamers always have various ways to trick their victims and also the scamers who are always around us. but at least we can avoid continuing to do thorough research on the project and not falling in love with offers that don't make sense.

It's not only you but there are so many people got pissed off by the scammers. A bunch of scammers were creating the scam campaign as a way to get the free promotional purpose.
DYOR is a must but it's also the fault of hunters who didn't wanna try to DYOR before try to take or participate in any campaign. People should have learned a lot from their past experience.

Indeed. Even we fully banned every scammers in this forum, it will be easy for them to create another account and change their IP address just to deceive people. It is why the best thing we need to do is to help each others by educating and warning others to make them stay alert and to know their illegal schemes.

Not all project owners or crypto people which are really aware on this forums existence which is a bit odd considering that this is the most popular when it comes to crypto talks and disucssions.

Scams and frauds do continue to exist as long money is circulating and knowing this market do potentially able to stole or ran away millions of usd with a successful attempt of scam or fraud.

This is why when we do really get engage into something that involves money then always consider or rethink if you do encounter on something which is really too good to be true.

Yes, it is about making money in the crypto world. It attracts people who have money to create a project to get more investors so that they can run their project for the long term. But suddenly, many projects turn into the scam and many people sad to know that the developer and the team abandon the project.

It's easier to scam people in crypto space, there is also huge amount of money moving in and out of crypto space that's why crypto have became a target haven for scammers to operate, there is no way to stop scammers in crypto space right now even decentralized projects make things more harder and complicated

There can be some reasons for undeveloped coins. Firstly, Some of developer are very eager to to trade in the block chain technology market, but they don't know how to alive a coin and how spread it's market environment for investors at all and as a result after a few months or a few years the coin has taken over the underground. Secondly, scammers are arise a token by ICO and developed the coins, but after getting their profit they don't do any surveillance on the coin and finally the coins fallen down and counted as a dead coin. So, I think the scamming will not be stopped for forever.

Scams stop when someone unfollows a bad bounty campaign, leaves no room for them, and closes projects that look suspicious. This is just a form of anticipation, but to completely remove the fraudulent project in my opinion is very unlikely. But the problem is that people are too trustworthy with a project that clearly has a bad reputation, the return on investment is unreasonable or the payoff is too high and ultimately don't come true.

Many do not know the existence of this forum, although this forum is very popular, especially when in 2017-2018, many successful ICO projects
and many investors are profiting from  investing in crypto, thus  leading to opportunities for those who want to make fraud in crypto. And this is
the beginning of the destruction of the ICO project caused by irresponsible people and wanting to earn money easily.

Well not all of the projects know about the forum, at the same time not all the projects would like to rely on this forum as well for manpower aka marketing campaigns. There are other sources for them to scout for people, like direct contacts and such. Not all people goto this forum to seek bounty campaigns either, as they go to some of the bounty websites that gives them direct access to bounties.

It is we that ought to change in experiencing these tricks and how to oversee ourselves in the present circumstance. In crypto, however in all life viewpoints, tricks are consistently there. I know how it feels to get defrauded, on the grounds that we as a whole have been there previously. That is the reason concentrating first truly will be the most ideal way, rather than diving into nothing and stalling out eventually. Better to plan prior to choosing to truly join crypto.

Copper Members donate directly to the forum and maybe that is why some of the campaigns that they are creating is just enough to create the amount of donation that they have made then stop developing their platform which will end in an scam. Another thing that has change are the Airdrops that are being announced. Most Airdrops right now has the possibility of being a phishing scam so we should really be careful when clicking on hyperlinks.

What rules do you want? There is a cryptocurrency that is unregulated at all levels, so what's the point of regulating it at the forum level?
If a person is involved in a scam, they paint him, if not, he continues to work. Our task is to identify the scam. We cannot determine in advance whether the project will be a scam or not until we see it.

To identify a fraudulent project is certainly not an easy thing, and from the last few years fraud has continued to occur on every side so that it seems that scammers are constantly developing with new ways to launch their actions both on forums and crypto projects, now it is really needed strict rules in anticipation of fraud, but of course in this case we need regulations from each country so that there will be special authorities to handle it, but we know that not all countries allow / have regulations on crypto.

I don't think stopping scams is easy, because people always get caught. If we want to invest in something we need to do research, we need to do our own research.

you must be new here ? since when do you see the scam stop ? scams actually never stop and theres no exception even to the crypto zone . this forums isnt only popular on those dates that you mentioned but bitcointalk forum will always be a popular when it comes to cryptocurrency . the one that is popular during those dates are the bull market for alts and btc as well as ico but scams are also getting rampant that time . the forum already enforced some added rules after that like merrit system and copper membership thing . not all can rank up now but if they have a money they can buy a copper membership just to post images on their ann thread but that was only it  . scams can still be detected no matter what

Scam will never stop even not in the cryptocurrency world there are scams everywhere. The best way to deal scammers is not to allow them to do scamming. Educate yourself in the way how they made their scamming activity and then always be careful around especially those members that do like to PM you making some offer. Remember if it ia too good to be true then most likely it is a scam.

Don't trust someone blindly, just because he is having the copper membership. Scammers are very innovative nowadays and at least some of them won't mind spending a few hundred bucks so that they can scam ten times that amount from the unsuspecting users. Also, I would even request everyone to be cautious even with old user accounts. There were incidents where inactive Hero/Legendary accounts were hacked and then used for scamming.

The forum is created for users to have a place to share ideas and comments about cryptocurrency, as well as a place for new projects to market and introduce their product and post details about their project. It is not the forum's obligation to screen projects that will post or make their thread in this forum, but they can be tagged if ever they are suspicious of promoting illicit projects or activities. It is  investors' responsibility as well to practice due diligence of making research about the project before investing.

Scammers have always been around way before cryptocurrency was invented, there will always be some group of people who would want to take advantage of others, I can't say for sure if it's ever going to stop because this scammers just keep devising means to make a scam project look real, they keep getting smarter everyday and it's hard to curb them now, we just have to be careful when investing in any new project, always DYOR so you won't fall into the hands of these scammers.

I guess, it'll never going to end. Why should we talk only newbie manager? I saw there are lots of reputed manager who bring bounty scam project. And Because of being high rank manager, people trust that fake project and buy tokens and get scammed. Actually its not about not newbie or legendary members, its about "the project". rank isn't matter if project is good but scammers are more successful now

A real reputable manager won't get a scam project under his wing.
It is the common thing for the newbie managers and they're usually the center of attraction of the fake projects that they bring.
You're right about it being the project. Managers can also be the victim if the project developers has been good in talking with them and suddenly they won't notice it turning into a scam.

that is really a big problem, now anyone in the forum can be a bounty manager, and he will accept any offer from any project that he gets, i've seen very very few projects that made a bounty program here, and their project did good after that, you don't here from them as soon as their ieo is finished, i don't know what could be done about it though, it's really hard to confirm whether a project can be successful or a complete scam.

Agreed, the scammers can't be stopped and what we can do to analyze the project and if we have found something fishy about the project and we must have reported it to the manager.
So many times even the reputed manager was getting fooled by the scammers. This is the true story and i have been seeing it so many times too.

In my opinion, at this time there are indeed a lot of projects that do not know the rules in marketing ICO or the project itself, besides there are so many that make investors lose heavily. usually seen from the project web.

not all new members are scammers, but it is certain that scammers want to find absolute trust in investors, as well as bounty hunters. however, the only way to stop a project scam is to catch it, and that can only be done by doing in-depth research. Well, I know that there are so many people who don't like this, but the thing to know is that scammers will continue to try to take money from investors at any cost. so, from now on start filtering new projects and coins.

We cannot sure about what is fake and legit project after the few months we will see that , they have some project that you can recognized in the first place that is scam but most of them now are smart to hide their true colors or true purpose of building that. I hoping so that no more scam project and bounty campaign this year but probably maybe it will increase because the price of the coins that triggered to the scammer to scam people.

But not everyone is eligible to become a manager. Those accounts that have just bought Copper Membership to become a representative of a bounty could be themselves.
The correct thing is what you've said of researching them one by one to have an idea which is legit and which is not.

I can understand the anger that arise when you think of the forum. It is the place where each and everything related to bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies came into existence. In the meantime the project owners/responsible people started to depend on the exchanges for all the needs. In specific when bounties were changed to IEO, most projects were running behind large exchanges like Binance to get their token listed on the exchange.

Copper members are not a big deal for the management as they are also the asset for the forum whatever they are real or fake. They approve them to gain the popularity or you can say increase the traffics. If you have enough money then you can be one of them as well but if you are an investor, not an ICO owner then you need to think over them. You need to have a deep look over them to avoid the scam. Actually, there is no loss for the management from these fake Copper members.

I think scam project will always exist because cryptocurrency is decentralized.
Anyone can make their own cryptocurrency, and create some fake project behind the coin.
As well as fake team, fake roadmap, etc. The only way we can avoid the scam is just by researching the project carefully.

You know if we don't want to be scammed by new ICO/IEO whether it is defi project or not , we should learn to research everything first just to make sure they are transparent and they do not have some history before, in terms of defi projects , most of them are being owned and handled by anonymous people, in that case we should be more careful and we need to attend AMA if they have it, because sometimes some of our doubts are being asked there, and only projects that are willing to pay more for marketing can be a profitable investment soon.

It's very hard or close to impossible say that a project well defined with a decent road map will scam people funds.
Forum administrators have implemented a rating system that allow people to flag suspicious activities and the section about the scam is always a good place for find or left a report about suspect activities https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

Taking everything into account, this discussion is as yet the best spot to get good bitcoiners keen on your venture, on the off chance that you are a nice undertaking. For trick projects, the entire crypto industry has become a simple splash and ask adventure. You continue to produce tricks and wsbsites snd TG gatherings and continue to round up the moolah. Shockingly, there isn't anything to stop you on the off chance that you are acceptable at it.

Regarding crypto or not, there will always be the scammers.
Yes, it's very much easier to create tokens these days.
Without DYOR, you're likely to fall investing with such projects.

If you look at the issue globally, the forum has become very empty since 2017-18 and the number of projects has decreased, but now another story of the cryptocurrency pump and the forum is reviving again.

Only we alone can stop them from deceiving us. But are we able to avoid it? Sometimes someone in the crypto industry can't avoid scammers.
Because that scammer is always around us. We just need to be vigilant because fake projects, fake teams will keep stalking us.

Unfortunately we are not talking about something just purely crypto here, scamming happens everywhere and this is why it will not stop. This forum is just one part of it, and it is not going to suddenly stop neither, it is going to continue because every place is a place for scamming if you are a scammer. But do not fear that this place has turned into a scam place, it did not because there are as many scams out there in the real world as much as crypto has, and there are more scams out in crypto world than just in bitcointalk.

It means you are still safer here because the whole world is filled with scammers, not like this is the only place. What you should do is to make sure that you do not spend even 1 dollar on something that looks a bit shady, even if it is a bit shady just stay away from it, you do not have any reason to spend your money anyway, keep it, don't risk it.

Many Alcoints are launched all the time and many Alcoint have also died and been delisted from the exchange market. Likewise with project scams, because many projects are successful and have succeeded in getting big profits and have high selling prices, we will definitely find a scam project. because situations like this are very popular with scammers. then we must be careful in choosing the project that we will follow even though various rules have been enforced.

The membership that holds the bounty is only labeled, especially if the copper member of this forum is very free so it is vulnerable to many people who are not responsible for seeking profit for themselves. This rule still does not apply until when this case goes on, we as members of the forum only usually take care of ourselves and be more careful with this case do not happen to all of us

It looks like you are wrong in this matter, indeed in 2018 there were many scam projects, but the forum did not become empty because of that, and one more thing that in 2017 there were also many successful projects, even though some of them became scams the following year, so that needs to be outlined The bottom line is that forums never die from things like this.

Of course, we ourselves must first assess the project, to which we are joining to participate in their bounty companies. However, no matter how we ourselves investigate a new project, the likelihood of fraud still remains. Therefore, from time to time we will get caught by scammers and this should be taken for granted, since this activity is still practically not regulated. It is difficult to establish specific rules on this forum, they are gradually developed by the community.

Regulation for decentralization is quite difficult. Therefore every investor as well as members of the community must conduct research before engaging in or investing in a project. yes maybe this is indeed a basic investing skill, but in a crypto world where everything is decentralized, research is prioritized and recommended

I don't think the copper ranking encouraged scammers cause scammers are everywhere not just here in this forum, they on every social media platforms  especially Telegram, and there's no absolutely no way we can stop them cause they keep evolving and creating new ways to move money from their victims pocket to theirs, we can prevent this scams from happening by do a good research before investing in any altcoin project.
Doing a proper research will also help to avoid falling into the hands of this wicked scammers.

May be when crypto gets regulated scammers will leave crypto space, people might be forced to only invest in regulated crypto projects in the future, don't you think so? This is the only way that scam will decrease in crypto space

Scam projects are part of this ecosystem and they are also in the normal economy. Anyone is free to create his cryptocurrency and this is good and bad. If this user wanna do something good, it's a good things but if the purpose is only earn money exploiting the ignorance of others it's a very bad thing. I think that we will never break free from SCAM projects until persons start to think differently

Since getting to know cryptocurrency and joining as a bounty hunter I have encountered so many scam projects that I have lost both time and money. but with bad experiences that I had before, now I am really careful to choose a project that I will promote on some of the social media that I have. so in choosing a good project, we have to know many things about a project that will be launched, so that we don't get into a scam project.

I doubt that regulations can stop scammers, crypto investment can be very tricky to newbies and also those who are simply drive by hypes and fomo can rush to any length to get anything done, even if regulation wants to safe crypto investors how about those who can't be safed?

I think this scam will never end if the forum still exists, it will continue because we are on a free forum, namely crypto as a place to look for profits so everyone is free to seek profit for himself and the team by doing scams, phishing and fraud we must always be careful there are a lot of phishing links

So crypto scams only exits on this forum? You don't know what you are saying, where online is safe from scammers this days? How many phishing links have you clicked on in this forum? There are hundreds of scam projects that are well hyped on Twitter and Facebook, scams is why we have scam accusations on this forum, are you visiting the thread?

From my Point, New investors don’t always understand the ins-and-outs of cryptocurrency before and during investing. This has given several malware programs the chance to evolve. Malware programs now pose newer and bigger threats to people.

OP asks thing that indirectly lead to "When do humans become 1 character?"  or "when humans do not exist?".  Good and bad are a balance, deception will always stick in people's lives.  Not only in crypto, which is very vulnerable to scam, even in every aspect of life there must be scam in it.  That is why humans are given the intellect to think about good and bad. It is sometimes difficult to make choices, the scammers have a higher sense to influence us.  The point is to prevent yourself from fraud is to increase literacy, and communicate with people who are more expert.  If both of them become routine I am sure whoever the person will not be a victim.  Unless he's unlucky.

I also agree with you, 2017-2018 was the year when the crypto world was very famous and victorious, so it's only natural that there are many successful altcoin projects. but after that the crypto world was experiencing a disaster, so almost all crypto projects failed. but now crypto is reviving again, I think this is a good opportunity to dive into the world of crypto again

good developer works on following customs with personal strategy as applying use with different aspect on qualification. that those to leads with extensive as uses of forum to dispose work on challange with the convergence bias to supports target on project terms completion according personal preference.

Therefore, we need bounty managers with a good reputation and trust. At the moment I know Small Rabbit irfan_pak10 Bounty Detective bubbalex Hhampuz. I think they take their business seriously and take care of their members.

what you say is true. but when you see something bad in a new project you can share it with other people. This forum already has a place to share all indications of fraud. and it is one way to better control the scammer. indeed there could be no wiser rule for eliminating scammers. they will always be there for the money. and when everyone has the ability to know then they will not get anything from what they make.

I think the introduction of copper membership was just a way for the forum owners to earn a little bit more money which for me isnt a bad idea.. its the people who are actually promoting the scam bounty that are the problem and the best thing we can do for ourselves is to make good research about a project before investing our time or money in any project not to end up regretting again because at this point almost all of us have been hit by scam one way or the other

There is nothing we can do about projects being created each day since crypto is not regulated, each day new people are entering crypto which the number of the potential victim for this notorious scammers are also increasing. As long as there are opportunities this kind of scheme will not end, we just need to be cautious before investing on any projects.

Well, the quality of the way they view the project needs to be improved. I agree that managers like them need to be reproduced so that the quality of the projects introduced in this forum is more reliable.
Unfortunately, there are still quite a lot of people who don't do research on the project they are carrying out, so it looks like they are supporting a project scam. however, we as investors or bounty hunters need to really research the projects that we will support or invest in.

Unfortunately, it will take time for a newbie to spot a scam project. If he wants to learn more on how to evaluate a project, he can always check the scam accusations board, and check how the users here are busting potential crap projects. The usual issues are plagiarism, fake team members, ponzi scheme. For me, once I spotted a project using fake team members, I know at some point, they have plans to exit the project. It is easy to disappear if you are anonymous or using someone else's photos.

I think not totally a disaster, some project still manage to pull them up and keep pushing towards their goal even a lot of projects are seriously scam. I think its a turning points just like a big dip in the world of cryptocurrency. Today, even there not as good as launching new project back then, crypto world is truly amazing. A lot of good thinks happen mark the bitcoin value at ATH as well as other cryptocurrency.
It will not stop unless the crypto will ended. We should be familiar about it and we need to help to identify which are scams that will give bad reputation to cryptocurrency.

Indeed we cant stop the scam projects but we can prevent ourselves to end up in scam if we pay attention and set aside our will to earn huge because greed is one of the reason why some of us become a victim of these shit projects.

Scam is not going to end anytime soon its already part of crypto world and scammers will do everything to take advantage those people who are easy to fool. So instead of thinking the shitcoins and shit projects much better to focus on the bright side of why you engage yourself in crypto.

Yes, I agree with you, over time there will be fewer scammers, but I think scammers are not sleeping, they will come up with a new scam, but we must be 100% ready.

Scams stop when somebody unfollows a terrible bounty crusade, rules out them, and closes projects that look dubious. This is only a type of expectation, however to totally eliminate the fake project as I would like to think is improbable. Yet, the issue is that individuals are excessively reliable with a project that unmistakably has a terrible standing, the degree of profitability is preposterous or the result is excessively high and eventually don't work out.

It is a problem that has not been resolved since the past, many new projects have ended up scams and many investors have become victims, and they complain why there is no supervisor for the new project?
and in my opinion, this is not a matter of new projects to watch out for, but about how they don't get into the abyss several times,
those who have been deceived should learn not to be deceived again, this is the solution they must find if they are to make a profit.

fourm moderators don't moderate scam here.so its our responsibility to find out the real project cause we would be responsible for our profit or lose but i think this time, an action should be taken against scammers cause new comers get trapped by scammers and lost their assests and they feel negative about crypto industry and get discouraged by scammers.so should do something about this issue

Yes, you need learn how to lose, there is no exact way to protect yourself from fraudsters. Unfortunately, many newbies lose money due to lack of experience. But strong people admit their shortcomings, draw conclusions and begin to treat their money and projects in which they are invested responsibly.

Once you realize that then you'll be able to manage to work with your protections, there are lots of scams and fraud around and if you won't work it out playing with them then you'll just find yourself messing around.

All the things that you learn and experienced will make you more comfortable working in this filed, scam are everywhere so better to work and keep yourself updated.

Start investing with good understanding and knowledge then back it up with nerve moving forward whatever it takes.

I have learnt somethings in reputation board that its easier to spot a scam and fraud related projects. As soon as I see project announcement on Bitcointalk, the first thing I ask the OP is the team members, followed by the whitepaper. If the project is having some glitch, it will easily detected in this area.
It's our responsibility to report this errors and plagiarism so as to save orders the stress of wasting resources and time on this useless project.

you mean newbie can't become cooper member? What you need to know is that the scam will never stop and they will always be there every day, for now it all depends on us. want to keep learning and keep doing research or not, because only that way we can avoid scammers

this scam project will neverstop, because new features and tech will bring new way to cheat people
thats why if you want to invest in a new project, you must have a reasonable reason buddy by learn carefully about the project

It is difficult to learn the pros and cons of a project in the crypto world, many good projects also end up in scams,
this is indeed the cruelty of the crypto world, do you remember the Miracle TELE project? for me they are the big scam project I have ever participated in in the crypto world, even though all of them I am sure that their FA is very good, and in the end they are a scam, so sad.

I have noticed that too, and they lucky to be successful compared to those project that has been promoted in the forum.
It is maybe they don't see the forum as a helping tool or place to help spread their project. And we can't deny that social media platforms are widely used by the people and by using them, they can easily spread their project and get the benefits without huge expenses of advertising unlike if they run through bounty campaign.

After all, the project scam will always exist and will never end as long as there are still enthusiasts for new projects. Therefore, we ourselves must be
able to choose which projects are good. And this forum does not check which projects scams or not, it's the job of the members of this forum to find out
for themselves. If indeed we find scam projects that can help report it, so help other members avoid these scam projects.

Of course not everyone is aware of this forum. I also had the chance to see several projects with products that already exist and have an existing ecosystem that are not even recognized in this forum. there is a possibility that maybe their chief marketing officer has his own strategy for starting their marketing awareness and of course this forum is not the only platform available

Bitcoin and Satoshi's journey started through bitcointalk, I believe that's why this forum is so popular and that's why developers find their way up here to create Announcement about their new projects, any project that failed to create ANN about their project on this forum can't be 100% trusted, although not all of them are scam but make sure you do research first

When I discovered poyek fraud, I just thought that their project was not working, and I as a follower of the project accepted the risk of not profiting. A project doesn't always work, there are also failures. Because we don't know about what happens in the future. 

maybe you mean the bounty project.
I am a member of this forum who always follows the bounty of all projects. whether it's a scam or legit project I am following it. because basically scam projects are never moderated and don't know which project looks good.
but I never complained about the scam in this forum. because this forum was created not for bounties but to spread the news of bitcoin or crypto and embrace the crypto community.
so that the bounty in this forum I consider only as a gift from the forum, not as a job. if people consider the bounty as a job, and when the project is a scam, they will complain about wasting time and not getting paid and blah blah blah

This is very sad to say that some user bad use of coller membership and launching scam coin.
One should check these coins,their project, their total supply and their partnership before investing in it.

Scamming activities can not be stopped so long as their are newbies in the crypto space, in as much as people want instant money and are not eager to learn, they are prolly to be scammed in one way or the other, research have shown that newbies that refuse to make research before investing in a project is liable to be scammed, so on that note, the scamming activities in the crypto ecosystem can't be ended.

Investors must control projects themselves based on their skills or listen to people who invest with them. In real life, there is also a lot of deception, but in real life there are also laws.

Everyone who bases trust on some copper membership deserves to be scammed.

What are these sob story threads?

You don't trust random people because they have some paid membership like the one Bitcoin Foundation used to give out.

Trust system is probably the only indicator you can rely on but never let it be the only thing you check out before you do business with someone.

This is my first time on hearing out that someone been scammed nor get fooled just because they do believe on since someone do wear up some coppermembership thing?

Even trust system on this forum cannot be fully be trusted 100% imho.These aren't solid indicators for you to trust someone.Always do your own research and verify up
things before you do proceed.

Scams wont really stop as long this market involves money.There would always be those kind of people who would really have those kind of illegal
aims as long they would really able to see some opportunity.

The copper membership had nothing to do with the ^scams^ and neither did the forum owners gave rights to scammers to buy it and represent a new project and then scam everyone here. It's just that they charge you for the features you can get which you can't while being just a newbie and trying to rank up which isn't an easy task these days. I believe that if a person runs away with someone's money, all the community can do is tag that person, because it has been said many times that it's not the forum's responsibility if such issues take place here.

Newbies with copper member rank was put in place in order for newbies who want to post pictures on the ANN section to be able to do that without having to pay any high ranked member in this forum, I don't think the admin can differentiate between a scammer and a legit person through the sats they send, and besides its up to you if you want to invest in a new project or not, nobody is forcing anyone to invest in any new project, so do your own research, lastly not all projects are scam just DYOR and you will be good to go.

many are disappointed because there are people who are not responsible for every campaign.by providing a good concept and attracting potential investors and the end of the wait turned out to be only fooled by the team who deliberately carried out a fraudulent project under the guise of a campaign or token sale.

When this world would disappear, maybe in this time scams will stop. However it will not stop, scams are the bad side of cryptocurrency. Everybody wants to make easy money, for this reason, they use fraud. About copper membership, if you have money and want to be copper membership you can buy it. l agree it is not fair, but the system works like so.

Well, if honestly we say then it is impossible to stop scamming. If bitcointalk creat news rules or regulation then they will come with other strategy which could be more dangerous. So simple answer is its impossible. But though it is a problem so there is also a solution. So now you can asked what is the solution. Simple if they are coming to scamming with us with their idea and comes to show us they are smart. Then why you can't show them you are smart too. If you are able to predict that this project could be scam its a damn sure. Then simple stay away from them and you also promote that things that this project could be scammed zo everyone stay away from it. So use your brain. This could be a biggest solution. Thank you

scam will not stop because they will come with a new strategy and a new face, we must be more careful with new projects. do more analysis before we invest in a coin or project, to avoid a scam

I don't understand what you(OP) means by rules. So many rules already exist and people are getting banned from it. You can't stop scam projects by stopping cooper members or newbies. Only 3 years ago the CMC listed coin was 2000-2500, some new altcoins are taking place of them because new altcoins are good. New altcoins provide new ideas and better service than old projects.

Scam wouldnt really be gone on this world as long money do exist and there's a certain market on where there's value do circulates.Criminal minds would be always in the dark
for them to wait the opportunity on scamming out people.If a certain method or modus had been exploited or bust out then its expected that there would be new ways
or methods for them to scam out people and this cycle would continue.This is why we should really be aware with that and always use up your own common sense.
Everything do sounds too good to be true then its definitely a scam.

The scam project wouldn't stop unless people stop on supporting it and starts to recognize the scam and legitimate projects,
Scammers wouldn't stop on creating new project unless they wouldn't get anything in return or they wouldn't get profit from their scam project.
If you would put yourself on their perspective would you stop even if you are gaining too much money from it?

That right there has been my opinion. I understand there are many projects spring up and as a crypto investor I like to make money as I believe do all investors and with all this new projects, you should be wise enough to get in and get out, don't stay in it for long but for my long time investments or HODL, i will rather stay with those projects that have proven their worth or earned their trust in the crypto space.

Im new here and id love to know how i can distinguish between scams and real things... So, any advice u can give me is appreciated.

Scamers know that the crypto industry is full of money, so they can easily enter the crypto space and cheat in various ways. they came up with a new strategy like this time Trends Defi, one example of a new tool for their scam action. and here we contribute to each other to find project scams or other negative things. If you find a suspicious project, then you can also warn others by posting to a fraudulent thread.

If you are new, it is better if you read more of the thread here to get advice on investments that you can choose or just suggestions for altcoins that you can choose. the risk of investing is very high and you must have the knowledge to be able to benefit. don't get stuck on the wrong altcoin. There are many new people who make decisions wrong

Bitcointalk wasn't just popular since 2017. It was popular in 2013 and I wish I knew this forum back in the day. I had heard of Bitcoin but I didn't know there was this kind of activity and didn't look. If I had found bitcointalk earlier I would be part of this forum from the first day I knew about it.
For me, bitcointalk has helped me a lot in my research on many projects. Sometimes scams are not easy to notice, however in bitcointalk there are some members doing the good job of exposing them with evidence. This matters a lot.

Yeah right, until there are people who are willing to take the risk and ride along with those scammers, this will continue to collect
money and runaway after.


It's very important to do your research, it's your personal tool in order to avoid supporting those scammers and find yourself
become victioms of this bad activities. With knowledge regarding to this business, you are helping yourself to avoid losing
your money.

you are right, the existence of regulations will also only reduce our risk to scammers. besides we have to read a lot and research a lot I think there will be more ways we can research a good project. they will continue to exist and are impossible to destroy.

don't think the scamer will stop tons of projects or bounties popping up every day and they are so neatly styled that it doesn't look like project scamers
what we do is accuracy before joining the bounty or investment Only it can compare between scamers and real project and of course we will avoid losses

This fotum was created due to make discuss about bitcoin & others cryptocurrency.moreover also help new comers who aren't properly aware about crypto.that's why still there is no others rule for new accounts.but the problem is, scammers take this thing as a oppourtunity to make money by posting scam project from their new created account.i expect a early step from Moderators. but till then, temporary solution is, just need to avoid them.dn't perticipate their project and their bounty.although some newbie posted real project also.so you may join after done checking properly

Its very difficult to totally get rid of all  scammers on this platform. Let alone get them  separated from investors' cash is that most novices consistently advance projects that are either obviously deceitful. they continue doing it relentless, I don't fault it since it's their right. it's only that by not proceeding to advance dubious projects then at any rate we can lessen the scam among different scams projects.

There is simply no way to prevent fraud. This is part of human nature, there will always be bad and good people. There will always be someone who will try to cheat you and take your money, whether the projects have anything to do with this forum or not.
Even if some rules are invented, ways to fraud will be invented.

What I am amazed by is how the newbie advances the project of the con artists? while they are still newbies and don't know much about projects and don't have any experience in advancing a project either, so I think this must be clarified very completely.

Copper members are enforced for newbies who want to post pictures, so there's nothing wrong with such a rule. Despite rampant scam projects managed by members of the copper, it is beyond the reach of the forum owner.
I see that your account is full member and is using the bounty signature, you should already know a problem like this. As long as there are still those promoting bounty, scam projects will continue to circulate in this forum.