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I AM STILL ALIVE  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384876.0)
Started this topic back in those days
Topic is Locked but just wanted to inform all of those friends who were concerned about my whereabout
I AM STILL HERE
&
50 K is ON THE WAY

What happens to you after 50k then? Those who doubted your post must have regretted what you were speculating at that time, you kind of look like a crazy person to them back then.

I was thinking that too. I hope he is not going to die when we get to $50k lol.


That's a true bitcoin believer. How do you see the future of bitcoin for the next years? What do you think it will happen after 50k? Any other price targets?

Whats funny reading your thread is the first reply which says,


And 7 years later.... bam almost $50K.

I remember 2014 quite well. There were people who were predicting $5K bitcoin by end of 2014 and then later these same people were expecting double digit bitcoin at the end of 2014. Many people were very bearish in 2015 which did nothing to the price for most of the year. Pretty boring year. I remember the Antminer S5 was the best miner to have back then. Made a great profit if you held all those coins, which I am sure most didn't.

Its crazy how we are so close to $50K. And reading your thread really brings back many memories. Its good that you are still active on this forum. Most people have moved on to Twitter or Reddit.

I think become easy across bitcoin to $50,000 just left $9,000 again for bitcoin can raise to $50,000, maybe few weeks bitcoin will reach with your price prediction but depend with still happen when Joe Bidden become United State president, will make statement with bitcoin or not because when have popular people tweet about bitcoin give big impact with good or lower price, just wait what happen next when Joe Bidden become president.

It's all relative.

Some people are saying, "no way it gets to $100K," despite the percentage change in prices being much lower than some bubbles in years prior. Thinking in absolute dollar figures is part of the reason why people believe that Bitcoin is so expensive. Stack sats. There will always be detractors and there will always be hodlers. Besides... that QE ship needs to set sail again.

I will still be in the market and will update.

This is what i see
Check Out Here (https://ibb.co/RzX4PDX)

Yep thats true, Back in those days started with my gaming computer and now I Own antminers with the largest warehouse in the world located in Washington State
I remember those days with $12 Bitcoin trades in localbitcoin / MtGox and Cryptsy

Your 7 years old posts and replies are good and at the same time hilarious :D

We are all crossing fingers and you will outlive the $50k with many many years. In the current situation, we could see 1 Bitcoin for $50k in a couple of hours or a couple of years...

There’s a chance to finally reach that level after almost 8 years and I hope that you hold a lot if Bitcoin right now because you first believe ok Bitcoin back then, that’s a strong holding power. Those who believe on the early stage of Bitcoin are now earning unbelievable profit, we can’t go back from that time but we can start right now and do believe on Bitcoin and cryptomarket.

Congratulation! Hope you still keep enough Bitcoins to be a multi-millionaire when Bitcoin reach 50K by next month!  :)

I applauded OP for his perseverance. It seems you are gonna hit that goal. I've read the topic and some comments there from users are probably regretting what they said before. Like a guy mentioned that it's impossible, but see where we are now almost closed to 50k. It's quite interesting to see reminicse post like that which when you go back you'll find it highly appreciating for being there. Then there we are 50k otw and yes you are still here. Not just 50k but could also actually reach 100k if this bull market continues.

The first comment on your post in 2013 was the most noticeable one. I hope that guy will make a come back to this thread as well and explain what's unbelievable lol.
Some of the comments that's coming from the new member during those days didn't have enough faith in Bitcoin, but to those who are already an established member already knew Bitcoin would hit $50k.
So, there's really a huge difference between a casual Bitcoin investors and Bitcoin enthusiast.

Good that you will still be with the corporeal world. That statement back then was a funny but ominous at the same time.

We are still needed 10k dollars for the bitcoin to reach that and I believe it is possible to hit this month of January to happen. Of course you will still alive and you will be able to see that price and hoping that you have a lot of bitcoin in your pocket if it will reach it and people are waiting to happen bitcoin will turn like more than 100k dollars and next few years it is really possible..

I have said before that I really hope to see in my lifetime $100k (of course, preferably, with that amount worth more or less what it's worth today)... and that I'd probably never live to see the 1 satoshi = 1 cent mark. Probably still holds true today, but it's a little less improbable with every cycle. I might yet live to see a near-maxed out supply.

And now especially looking at your original thread. People saying never, or "see you in 33 years" for 50k.

So I imagine now in 2050 that's asking for a lot, maybe it won't seem so in 2030;)

Good luck!

I think easy but now bitcoin have correction before reach $50k and waiting how long bitcoin will have this price. I think every time bitcoin reach to higher price always have moment for bitcoin should correction first before make break out and raise to higher price, I think now moment for bitcoin correction until $39k and keep going on and touch more than $45k before bitcoin success make new record with higher price above $50k.

Even with $9K  after it reached $41K  the price will hit $50K not quite far away from that target, a resistance had already  been established at $41K with reference to 4 hour timeframe BTC,/USD  chart once the resistance is broken the will easily reach $50K The Price Action in the previous days indicates high volatility of BTC without any trace of a massive pullback andI believed the bullish runs will continue throughout this year.

Well, people who have this type of ideological stance on bitcoin are always makes me happy. I just like it when people realized bitcoin will be a huge thing very early on, and decided to say "I am not going to sell all of my bitcoins at any price" , sure we are all human and we may need some money because of something and cash out, but there are so many early investors who have millions of dollars worth of bitcoin very easily, that is like 200+ bitcoins or so right now, there are people with thousands of bitcoins, a lot of them as well, who never get out fully, they always keep some of their money in. That is the good part of bitcoin, you know how well and awesome it is designed from start, so you keep it.

Some people say "I wish I got in earlier" but I know they would get out the moment it hit 1000 dollars, but there are some who understand how big this can get.

Congratulations, stay on you'll see what you predict in 2013 I'm sure it can reach that level this year, check that old thread and many believe that it's possible for Bitcoin to reach $50,000, back on those days it's good to make predictions because there are so many unbelievers, it's fun to make a thread about your prediction and prove unbelievers that you are right, just like what you did.

there is nothing that can prohibit providing predictions that will be done, it is just how we respond to what has been done, whether we believe it or not. argumentation can happen a lot when determining something and what is reasonable. Like a $ 50K raise, you may not be sure because it's been talked about for a long time but I see it from other perceptions in determining that.

The halving that I used as a benchmark to determine that bitcoin will increase or not and that also can not be proven but this is an experience that has happened and is real. The first and second halving is quite a significant difference from last year's third halving and seeing that this year is the time for bitcoin to increase. but if calculated from the difference between the first and second halving then $ 50K is too small.

Congrats and you do go back to this place and showing off on how you did really put up much trust with bitcoin.

Its really good to see those people who get engage with bitcoin into those early years of this one. The wait and the patience isn't really something easy
for someone to do so.You have seen on how this market moves and all the events that happened.

50k? We aren't really that far off on where most people do speculate that we wont really be reaching this level or point.

The current $50k for the price of bitcoin is very close. Bitcoin once touched $42k, although there was a correction yesterday, but now
it has gone up again and is now at $39,360. That's close to $40K. You're very lucky if you still hold bitcoin to this day and didn't sell it
when yesterday it dropped to $32. Maybe we'll see the price of bitcoin to touch $50K and even keep doing new prices.

Not there yet but we are so close, maybe $100k in our lifetime is very feasible. With that said, bitcoin in the last 10 years has really left it's mark. No one from the very beginning that it will go this way, years ago no one expected it to be $10k, and now we are inching to $50k-$100k this year. I'm optimistic that at least $50k can be achieved this year.

We will definitely hit $50k soon however we don't know exactly when though, it is possible for this year if Bitcoin continues to grow up it is not far though. Need more couple of steps and we will hit it. Currently, Bitcoin somehow stabilizes around $37k so I think it will take more time. We could hit $100k as well but just like what I have said not exactly know when. Besides, I think institutions are really pushing it up so just keep holding but remember don't be greedy and follow your exit point.

Can't just imagine how my reaction would had been years back assuming I was into bitcoin by then and was a part of the forum. Now the reaction would be positive since I have experience bitcoin breaking records and doing astonishing return of investment in the shortest time possible. Today the sentiment in the industry is everything is possible but that must haven't been the case years back.

Don't laugh at those that doubted years back, I mean the industry was still new and the fiat system was still having it's way at deceiving the masses of their funds been safe with the banks. Also today getting financially educated is becoming a common practice and that's opening our eyes to what is actually happening with the fiat system.

Today things are difference, we can see speculation of bitcoin trading in millions and the doubters aren't as many as there was years back. That's an evidence of how far the industry has grown. By the way, I'm glad you're still alive. +1.

Currently the highest value is 40k where bitcoin is able to anchor but we must know about the real correction where the highest point always has a few crashes where it causes a lot of panic that is why we need a strong push where people don't have to worry about how the future is going. What is clear is that this year there are still many challenges to overcome but when so many institutions are pushing, the possibility of 50k in the nearest future can be realized.
We have to see how this speculation takes place and imagine if the 50k is passed.

I don't think we see a lot of panic since actually the one I see right now is minimal damage due to that incident and the only one affected with the correction are the people who just newly came to the market since they think they can earn a fast cash with the bull run.

Also many think about bitcoin would never reach or close to impossible and the doubts has been replenished when it reach to 40k so for now we could assume that the $50k speculated is possible to reached and $10k + is not so big to achieve that's why we can really say that it's so possible that $50k  might be hit this year.

we have already seen the panic a week ago when they initially emptied all their hands into the market when the price came back below $40k initially. now there is only day traders who are trying too hard to keep the price low while they accumulate as much cheap BTC as they can before the jump to $60k is started.
the funny thing is that the trend is becoming more similar to early 2017 ;)

The "failed to drop" part of bitcoin makes people hopeful about it and thats going to help us go to 50k for sure. The real reason why bitcoin goes up is that people buy it, as long as people buy in bunches and not sell the price of bitcoin will keep on going higher. So if increasing price is caused by buying, what makes people buy? Well hope, hope that you can make a lot of money will make people end up buying, and that means if we want to make sure people buy, we should show them they can profit from it.

And what better way to tell people they can profit from something by showing that even after so many drops and corrections we declined to fall in price? That is why I honestly think it is quite important that we should realize price is about to increase to 50k, not because it should, but because it can't go down and not going to stay at 40k forever neither.

And another reply
Clearly has no idea how bitcoin will grow after 4 years when the halving takes place.
It's interesting how people predicting the time frame for bitcoin to reach a certain point, like
Yes, he almost got it right but it will be achieved in 2021.
There is no place to discuss and predict bitcoin better than here.
Imagine how much bitcoin value will increase in 2029, probably $800k - $1 Million.

Glad! your expectation is going to be happened soon. Just wonder seeing the thread that is created around 7years ago and most of people were positive about bitcoin then.really admire your expectation and confidence both.but i suggest you not to die if bitcoin hit $50k milestone cause if btc able to reach that level, it'll be pump more, Atleast $60k i assume.but its really wonderful that how btc hit $41.7k milestone from some cents

Thanks everyone for your views,
We hit that mark last night before the dump.
According to my chart we should correct for a small time frame and we should keep on going
We should achieve 100K in this bull run and rest we will leave it for next halvening

 
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
By the way I was not here for Money.
So I will be fine.  :) :)

Yes, you've seen this miracle in 2021, Bitcoin is close to 50k, almost close, how about you say again this year, I didn't die before Bitcoin hit 100k, I think you'll see that in two years to come.

Did you do something in 2018, I see you are very excited when bitcoin can hit 50k.
Do you not want to let go or hold on when the 50k actually happens.

Allright. I have absolute faith in bitcoin in this amazing trend.  This year there will be thirsts and it is completely different from what we might see every year before.  You can't forget your seasoning for a favorite dish.  We will make new history.  It will create a new era, not only that, in all altcoins will bloom.  The best charm I've seen.  It deserves more, we have no limits.  $ 100k distance can be seen.  At least that's my judgment up to this point.

damn more than 7 years after you posted that thread and here you are still alive and waiting ?

Have you still holding your Bitcoin since that day ? or have you sell them out back in 2017?

wondering how much have you earned for trusting Bitcoin that much?

sorry for many question but really i am fond of what you did , it is very rare that there are thread starter that will come back and remind their past thread.

$ 50k is not the stop.  But support needs to be activated now to achieve this.  Bitcoin has broken countless resistance points to make the extraordinary.  Yesterday we almost passed.  Although, impossible, the distance was very close.  $ 100 is probably not a big deal.  Limit foolishness now to ask why to go along.

Great, good thread and very timely to open since bitcoin is now heading to $50k, it has only pull back a bit but sooner it will start to rise again and maybe that time it will successfully break the strong resistance. It's been a over a month already since this thread was created, during that time bitcoin was only ;

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/historical-data/
Date                  Open*           High                   Low                   Close**   
Jan 09, 2021   $40,788.64   $41,436.35   $38,980.88   $40,254.55   

So it will be $10,000 increase if bitcoin hits $50k.

Yes that is true its long enough, Yes I am Still holding and Yes I did sold some of my coins back in 17 from 13K to 19K which I invested in Mining Warehouse and collected more n More.


I was actively accumulating Bitcoin through Mining and was converting my savings in some lucky coins like LINK, BNB, DATA, ZIL and some DEFI and FYI I am not selling as of yet n have no plans either. I am spending my coins everyday for my expenses but not selling anything for Fiat. 


FYI Original Thread was opened Back in 2013 and price was as follows this thread is just a revision and information to all friends to Inform that I am still Here and Rolling.

Date                     Open*      High     Low     Close**   
Jan 01, 2014   $754.97   $775.35   $754.97   $771.40   
Dec 31, 2013   $760.32   $760.58   $738.17   $754.01   
Dec 30, 2013   $741.35   $766.60   $740.24   $756.13   
Dec 29, 2013   $728.05   $748.61   $714.44   $745.05   
Dec 28, 2013   $737.98   $747.06   $705.35   $727.83   
Dec 27, 2013   $763.28   $777.51   $713.60   $735.07   
Dec 26, 2013   $683.94   $777.75   $683.94   $761.98   
Dec 25, 2013   $666.31   $682.70   $649.48   $682.21   

LOL , u should die by now , it's almost 53k ;D , or u need to change it to 500k for buying time for alive  ;D . btw , i am proud of you , seeing your thread and well, its kinda crazy of course if u talking like that on that time . congrats man .

Lock this thread.

Start a new one

60k on the way and I am Still Alive.

once we hit 60k

lock and open one for 70k

I think $60k or $70k is far too little as a challenge.

OP wrote earlier that we should reach $100k:


Also, I think the $100k level should be easily reached, so I suggest declaring it finally and closing the thread for the next few weeks.  ;)

Wow, you are a legend.. and trust 100% of Bitcoin technology, and your thread is so inspiring for us. Because when 2013 that many FUD about Bitcoin and few people can to believe it and keep trust it

People say "never be $50k per 1 bitcoin, If You wait 33 years maybe they will be worth 50K and many bad statements about your thread, but now you prove it that you are right

I am Actually Planning to open new one with

BTC to $1 Million when my Kids will open my Hardware Wallet (FYI my older one just turned 6 and younger 2)

Back in those days it seems impossible because the price is really cheap at that time.

Who would have thought after 7 years we can reach the value you predicted. Those believer who still hold their bitcoin from early days up to now truly deserves the profit.

And now, we see bitcoin worth $50k, and it's on the way to reach the new ATH soon. It is not easy to believe bitcoin and the technology as in that year, people are busy with their regular work, and the internet is not adopted in many places. As time goes by, we see the adoption is happening in many places, and people trying to believe in bitcoin.

We are so lucky to know bitcoin. Although we are not early adopters, we still enjoy this moment and make money from bitcoin. I am sure many people are early adopters, and they still hold their bitcoin tight.

No one would really anticipate to be that bullish into those years where bitcoin is just starting up.No one would never really expect that it did really reach out 50k.
For those who had trusted up bitcoin on to those years and tend to hold after hitting up the target or goal of someone then thats surely a life changing
profit which im bit jealous but its never too late to get engage with the market it might not be giving out those big profits but at least we can
still generate something if it tend to rise up its price in near future.7 years after prediction is something amazing that it did really happen.

Of course, they trust the future of bitcoin and now they should enjoy it.

This is a great retirement, imagine, if you bought bitcoin at $100 each, you will definitely be so rich now, and you don't need to work and probably you can own different business which would provide you your future financial needs.

I'm a bit envy of the early adopter but I don't loss my hope that one day I will also make a fortune investing in crypto because it's no only bitcoin that gives opportunity now.

When the bitcoin price is just $1, people still not thinking about how bitcoin will be in the future, and they underestimate that bitcoin can increase so high. People who are mining bitcoin only think about the fun of getting bitcoin with their computer, not even think that the bitcoin price can reach out to $50k.

But then, when the price can increase slowly or faster, some realize the potential of bitcoin to rise higher in the future. So they bought bitcoin at a very low price and hold it, and many of them forget if they have bitcoin in their wallet.

Bitcoin is now changing many people's lives, and we do not deny that our lives change for the better.

I think there are some people (definitely not me) who would be willing to work even after they have enough money to retire. I never really understood the idea and why people are like that, why working seems to be the thing they want to do when they have a lot of money, obviously not for someone else and just be a hard worker, but they want to have like an office where they go to and they do some unimportant thing, not really cost them too much so it should be any business that breaks even and that is all they care about.

I do not believe that, I would rather have something that would make it my whole life is a whole vacation, if I had money I would do that. I didn't buy bitcoin at those levels but I did bought cheaper than this and I hope if I ever have enough money to retire one day I will end up not spending any of that to anything luxurious and retire and never work again.

I am amazed by the opening post that has such great confidence in Bitcoin, it is proven that Bitcoin even managed to reach the price of $ 61k this year.
I also admit Bitcoin will have a bright future, but I don't have as much confidence as the opening post. And I will not say negative if finally now
the opening post wants to create a new thread Bitcoin will reach a price of $ 1M, because no one knows what price Bitcoin will reach in the future.
There is nothing wrong with the opening post if he really want to predict the price of Bitcoin will reach $ 1M.

I do respect your words, But while thinking it differently
What if CZ planned to live in his Crypto since his 650K (Initial Cost) crypto turned in Billions back in 2017 Bull Market (We won't have seen Binance and BSC chain and so many other important updates in Crypto)
Same thing goes with Coinbase, Bitmex and a lot of exchange owner and lots of people from Crypto startups.
What if Jeff Bezos wanted to retire while he had enough cash for his entire life (People are getting service everyday from Amazon and Amazon has 1.3 Million employees)
Same thing goes with Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Larry Ellison, Sergey Brin

I am mentally retired but I do work now also, I don't want to disclose my portfolio but yes I can make my life vacation everyday but my personal thinking is "If my money cannot help others while making me happy that money is actually worthless" Obviously I am not gonna work hard like I used to do back in my college days but I am working everyday to Improve my company to help some more people so they can help feed there family.

There are a lot of people who really underestimate bitcoin in the beginning.

We just have to go back to 2017 bull run and then 2020 lowest low because of the pandemic. And then just one year, the price has growth exponentially to $60k ++ and still growing.

It people can't see the future in bitcoin, then I don't know what graphs and indicators or past historical logs will convince them to invest and look for the future.

(The lowest low happened by December 2018 and in March 2020 prices somehow held not to beat the 2018's low).

You are right that almost 90% of people are still not ready to understand the true potential of bitcoins. I may be understanding only up to 50% because honestly I was not expecting $60 by April month itself but I was expecting $100k by this December and by seeing the rate of current growth, I guess we may test even $400k levels by end of this year.

There are many articles and videos are available to understand potential of bitcoins but people never find time to go through them but they just want quicker profits and then they stay regretting for missing out life changing chances.

Yeah you are actually alive to see your speculation come up real and even going beyond it. The bitcoin story is really that kind that looks unbelievable but it has happened and yet many thread are still predicting more highs for bitcoin.

But I don't know if you invested then and held one single btc to this time. Just as many now are doubting $100,000, $200,000 price in the future, many also doubted you too. Below are some doubts but just in 8 years after the prediction, it happened.


And after just 8 years, it happened


Lol

It is definitely an achievement to predict that and in 8 years it hit the target. I wanna ask, what was your age at that time..? Because it looked like you were in a rage or something, usually in my country we talk like this when we are betting hard on something. What was the reason behind that..?
Eager to know..  :o

I hope you hold your bitcoin for such years because you're the one who believes at the first place that it will reach 50k. and we are on it now and indeed bitcoin excess on that value , so you are rich now?  As the title says probably it's true.. So i would like to congrats you to this kind of success because you're really good and have a lot patience and the fact you really believe that this thing will happen even that time bitcoin still not high wherein too far at the current price today.

Does this mean that you have been holding your bitcoins since 2013? I have never met such a person, if so then you are a genius person. Do you mean when your kids reach adulthood, Bitcoin will be worth $ 1 million?)

Reveling the truth, I am also a human being and everyone knows nothing goes straight upwards and nothing goes down in a single candle. I did Sold 50% of my Bitcoin holdings back in 2017 from 13K to 19K but not just to take profit but to help Bitcoin network and to help myself changing my lifestyle with Rented Apartment to New House, 2003 Mazda to New Car, Job to Business and soooo on.

From that 50% holding I sold, I bought myself a great house, My Dream car, My Gf's Car of choice, around 70K in bank and from rest of the money I started a mining Warehouse (Somewhere in Wenatchee, Washington  :) :) can't disclose actual location :) :)) and payout was scheduled 75/25 from where 25% of mined coins straight to my core wallet and 75% for electricity and maintenance as well as my personal and household expense. so to your question again yes I am holding my coins (Bitcoin Core till 2017) and Hardware wallet after that. Doesn't want to revel how much but my 2 kids are already Multimillionaire and I am having good life, Travel around the world, Living my Dream with my Mining Income.

Final Word : I know BTC is moving high and eventually it could be Million $ per Bitcoin in my kids adulthood but I have to sell my 75% of mined coins for expenses which I think is reasonable. Even if i want I can't hold them because I am living in only crypto since 2017 and I don't have other sources of income to pay my Mining Electricity Bill, If I had one I would have saved 100% from mining.

We don't know ending of our life so always take profit and invest that profit in yourself, Life will be wonderful

Yes, we do not know the ending of our life, but we do not have to give up until the last blood, especially if we have a family because they are everything to us.
We work hard for them because they are mean to us, so if we think that we do not have a chance to make them happy, maybe we need to find out the other way to make money to have a new source of income to cover our daily needs.
Assume you sell 75% of mined coins, you still have 25% of the mined coins, and I think you can use 5% from that mined coins to trade because I think we still have a chance to make money from trading.
C'mon, you are not alone because many of us still struggle to have a better life for our family or ourselves, so I hope you do not give up.

You are talk of the town dude, lols. I will watch for your DOGE prediction.

Dogecoin? do you think he will have one? OP is a Bitcoin Believer and that's why he created those topics and He is not a Illusionist or a predictionist  :)

when the ship started again, I saw that all the ships had started to drop anchor to anchor. are all bitcoin passengers ready to go back or there are still those who haven't bought a ticket to go.

The presence of bitcoin makes people competing to have it for a long time, it's time to meet you bitcoin at the $ 43k level. I hope to be a sailing buddy later when you start to bubble again.

Many were expecting the BTC at even $ 25k, but seeing that the price reached $ 30k there were many investors, traders who bought intelligently in the fall, this caused many to think that it was being sold when they were actually buying, and at the same time Seeing the volume in red, the majority assumed that they were sales, in this case, in the short term, they are already gaining 13% and rising:

https://i.imgur.com/yIQFlbS.png

Source: https://u.today/btc-ada-bnb-and-doge-price-analysis-for-may-20 (https://u.today/btc-ada-bnb-and-doge-price-analysis-for-may-20)

If this scenario occurs that can reach $ 45k, it is very likely that it will reach the $ 50k mark, since the FUD has already passed, the only thing is that the Elon Musk effect will not be as effective as it was, the many are learning that not only is Elon Musk the sole investor in BTC.

I am not holding any DOGE, Instead I am selling though (I get free doge once in a while from my mining while mining BTC. Doge & all other coins  is scheduled in automatic selling and converting to USDC) I do sell BTC but only for expenses BTC is always a Hodl for me. In my trading account I do some trade on DOGE also but mostly Shorts. Longs or Spot buys are mostly my Top 100 choices or something which could interest me with the purpose, Utility, Whitepaper and the future of that asset. I am not here only for money I want those crypto to make some difference in real life and have some real life use cases or real life store of value not a Pump & Dump with some random person like John McAfee, Faketoshi in 2017 & Elon and couple whales in 2021

hard to reach $ 50k again mate, you have to really be prepared for a long bearish journey in 2021 to 2024,
haha this is just an opinion, don't make it a benchmark, we can still see $ 50k if the price of Bitcoin reaches above $ 45k first,
after that it goes higher yes maybe $ 100k ?, don't expect too much, just do what has to be done, good luck

The price of Bitcoin already reached $50K and he seems already sell their Bitcoin. You must read when he created the thread, it was January 09, 2021. He also already predicted the Bitcoin price to pass $50K on December 25, 2013. Now, he may prepare to buy in the next bearish and predict again the possible price to reach in the next bullish season. He is a smart BTC holder and predicted accurately.

Yes, I agree. It is very likely Kopetunto didn't understand what this thread is about or didn't read it at all.
It is interesting to read the thoughts of these early bitcoin investors, especially the skepticism. Many of them didn't have any idea how bitcoin could transform their lives and how it would change the world around them.

The price hasn't totally crashed so low so I don't think that we have to worry about bitcoin being on the long bearish season. I don't mind that bitcoin is going on a limbo at this current prices, I still need to accumulate more bitcoin so I am not on the haste for the prices to go up.

We're not quite there yet, but we're so close that $100k in our lifetime is a distinct possibility. With that stated, bitcoin has made a significant impact during the last ten years. No one expected it to go this way from the start. I'm confident that we'll be able to raise at least $50,000 this year.

there is always a sense of optimism that bitcoin will be able to do it again, I haven't seen the halving effect this year which usually happens at the end of the year. now because the external effects are too excessive to be addressed by investors who do not understand the intentions behind it all. let them regret it.


whatever is done is their right and we cannot intervene but we must be able to control ourselves so as not to worsen the correction that occurs by believing in those unclear words.
I still believe that things will return to normal once bitcoin is stable at the current $30K-$40K range, which is preparing for a jump higher in time.

I don't trust people who want to enrich themselves and the company with what they have by involving their members on social media so that it makes everyone confused, people like this don't deserve to be trusted anymore because their goal is to make profit.

the current situation is even $50k is very difficult to achieve, the first target is at $45k first so that it can be said to be stable,
otherwise the Bitcoin price will continue to fall until the saturation point, of course everyone wants the Bitcoin price to reach $50k soon,
what else can you do, everything is in god's hands

it's true that we can't get ahead of God's will, but we're given to think and do something and we shouldn't give in to the circumstances.
the current correction is clearly not from pure bitcoin but indeed external parties are playing to be able to follow with the aim of wanting to be able to have cheap prices. no wonder it can be controlled by someone like @elonmusk who clearly wants to profit from the mistakes made by others.

but unfortunately there are still many who follow that person's words but not because of the analysis carried out and from the experience gained so far and often experienced. but this has happened now to not make matters worse with actions that could make things worse.

the price has been fairly stable for the past few weeks in the 430K-$40K range and we hope it doesn't drop below $30K and maintains it in order to provide an opportunity for bitcoin to prepare itself to take another step towards its year-end goal of achieving renewable ATH.

OP has predicted $50k early this year and he was right, but if we think it happens again, well, not sure about it.
We are still at the $35k-$39k price range, it was too far to reach $50k. But the market seems so good to look at, I think it gonna be the best position to make an investment.
However, I don't put this into the hands of god. If the market will pump or just dump, it was not his, we are the ones who made this, nothing else, not a god's well. It is just how the market works.

We Will see if the market could still rebound, it seems the bearish market is already here and we know what that means. It's easy to see a new ATH or $50k price again there's a bullish sentiment, but I believe it's already gone now.

there must always be optimism that we must have in ourselves that a rebound could happen again, because the bad news that has been affecting the bear market will end soon, because everyone has started to distrust the bad news that has been echoed so far. because what was done made a very deep correction and of course that's not good. Bad news must always be analyzed properly so as not to make us believe and take actions that actually exacerbate the existing situation.

hopefully the good news from elsavador will be able to jack up to crawl again to move slowly to be able to break through $40K where we know this is a crucial number for bitcoin to be able to reach renewable ATH again and it's still quite a long time until the end of the year and I believe that bitcoin will back bullish.

You're overanalyzing the situation, just let the market do it's own thing and before you know it, the market is back to that number that you prefer. Don't worry about something that is only in the short-term because it will only stress you out.

Honestly it's a good thing to analyze the situation because then we can make the right decisions,
but what you say is also true that maybe if we worry too much it will stress us out and that's not good,
despite all that I really hope the market can recover soon

For now, BTC is in a sustainable recovery, although there is a slight volatility between $ 39k and $ 40k, it remains aware of what may be a great bullish movement that may be brewing, however the analyzes show:

https://i.imgur.com/veXtQuh.png

Source: https://u.today/btc-eth-ada-bnb-and-xlm-price-analysis-for-june-15 (https://u.today/btc-eth-ada-bnb-and-xlm-price-analysis-for-june-15)

Maybe for now in the short term, things look rosy, but you have to wait and see how it continues to develop, at any moment a major movement can occur.

The situation right now for BTC does not look good, It is getting harder to have good support above the 40000$ price and the bears are taking control over most of the zones. We need a stronger volume to break this resistance and move above 50000$ price. The FUDs regarding regulations and bans shake the weak hands but I would news like El Salvador will be a ray of sunshine for the community.

I think by September its either we are about to break 60k or we are about to reach the bottom. But most probably we are going to have a wonderful year 2021. We will have a long bull market for crypto.

I think in the midst of recent panic attacks with just Elon Musk's Tweets, it's been proven that the bears still prevail.  Although, 2021 will see a long-term bullish move... At any time, Fud always creates.  Price elasticity is really just a confidence level.  I am proud that El Salvado has made history in this market, hope to see more countries follow in El Salvado's footsteps.  And El Salvado is just the proud and promising start for bitcoin.  There will be no smaller bottoms this year, I'm optimistic about struggles at strong points.  for example 30k last week

there must always be a belief that there will be changes that will occur, indeed we do not deny that there has been a very deep correction, but for the past month bitcoin has not wanted to go down below $30K, instead it persisted and continued to fall and rise in the $31K-$40K range.  this ensures that bitcoin is comfortable at its current price, just waiting for the momentum to increase to break through. started incrementally at $50K first and will continue to increase through the end of this year until a great renewable ATH is formed.

Just wanted to remember giantdragon (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384876.msg4143606#msg4143606) on hos post which eventually became true

That's pretty cool guess but I'm not expecting anything this year although the potential is so high but let see  if we can see the figures touch to that numbers since for sure we will provably experience some series of fud spreading which can cause the market collapse at that time. But if there's something  good like the real  adoption of certain  big E-merchant or other things which can possibly contribute  unto bitcoins then maybe  there's  a chance that we can  see it touch near or more than that.

Woah. An OG since 2013. You probably hold since then and most probably having the best profit you ever had. I hope you still make it up til a 100K. I wonder what's the price of Bitcoin way back 2013 though.

Yeah, agree. Aside from ignoring the market drop, you might not want to look at its chart every now and then. Just forget about your investment and get back by 3 yrs or so.

The market at present tremble to move on the bullish side. If the $40000 tag gains resistance then it'll move forward reaching $50k in a short time period. The price found below $40000 is a good sign to invest. By the falling week if it hasn't touched $45000 then for some time period we can expect the price changes to happen same as that happened around $30k to $33k a week ago.

everyone said the same thing, if btc in september will be bullish or will reach a price above $60,000 or you can say hello back to the previous price.
i think its good and i expect that btc will break above $50,000. but the question is how much btc have you stored for the winter ahead?

We don't stop to speculate on the future price of bitcoin but don't have the assets to prepare for a marke bullish, LOL. I was ready to wait for the market bullish to prepare a portfolio that was set up in the $30k market.

We will not escape bad things because there will definitely be many who are against bitcoin so this will be a downfall for as a community that is not strong with FUD, then we will see how it goes with the adoption that we want so big in an institution and this there must be a change in the value of the numbers in the market and make things better I think the current price is still quite predictable towards $50k to be hopeful again for the next one.

I don't want Elon Musk to give out tweets that are no longer used, of course this is a little big, there must be an impact, even though some don't care about his tweets anymore.
It looks like the market will still look green in the next few days.

It wasnt really that negative for you to say because it is really just a speculative call for someone and we know that theres no such thing about being precise when it comes to speculative market.

We do have some basis or just as simple on having a hunch on what would be the prices looks like in the future.Some do make out some good guess and some did really give out some unrealistic numbers
as simple as that.

For sure to those who had been saying about its impossible to happen then once bitcoin did hit that certain price or point then they would really be changing up their own views
towards it.

Although the price of BTC has recovered enormously, many were waiting for it to at least reach $ 45k, but there is no need to demand much, just a few days ago the price was oscillating around $ 30k, some said it could reach the $ 20k, however the push has made the BTC is consolidating at $ 40k, which is not bad:

https://i.imgur.com/1SB7egM.png
Source: https://u.today/btc-xrp-and-bnb-price-analysis-for-july-29 (https://u.today/btc-xrp-and-bnb-price-analysis-for-july-29)

The Bitcoin bulls are doing a great job of beating the bears, the bears managed to take the BTC to levels well below $ 40k, now it is seen that it can continue to grow, there is already talk that it can reach $ 50k if the supply at these levels is low.

Wait mate, |Have you already sold your coins? your bitcoin on hold had  been relase or staying on your wallet? damn you are holding for long now.
Sadly it does not take effect because the price of bitcoin struggling to stay strong in 40k instead going back down to 38-39k for a while and breaking 40k after.
maybe this will result a bull when we climb at least 45k first.

I agree with your opinion, if the price drops below $40,000 it's a good price to invest. where we can see previously that there was information about discussions last week between Jack Dorsey (CEO of Twitter), Elon Musk (CEO of Tesla), and Cathie Wood (CEO of Ark Invest) at the Bitcoin conference.
They talk about where they see Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies going with regards to their own organization. This shows that bitcoin will fly up in the future.

That's good, I think you are investors who are ready to face challenges and are ready to make big profits.
how much you have set up your portfolio at $30,000 before the market price returns to $50,000.
bitcoin will continue to live and there is no need to worry about the declining market, it's an opportunity for you when the burrish happens.

I am expecting even if it reaches to 60k or closer to it will be a big thing as that would mean double in 6 months form 30k which is a significant thing. Only a very bullish news could help in achieving the 50k for now else do expect to be in 40k range now for some time.

What a call by the OP and @giantdragon

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-W4-S8UF2Eh4/YQml9L0XOXI/AAAAAAAAAu4/OHXwrX2gQyQbhG8YVPGdzSooQHPldirBwCNcBGAsYHQ/w640-h154/Capture2013.JPG

and well done to you @undeadbitcoiner for your belief and perserverence
like others from the early days who are still active Bitcoinrs and forum members,
even from the first page of that thread like @erre @cr1776

Like 10 Bucks when I started and like couple hundred bucks when I started writing about Bitcoin. I personally started with Mining and some free bitcoin (Not actually free just with some work like Signature Campaign and like that), By the way I was never in Bitcoin and in Crypto for money and even now I am not here for money but for its technology and future. 100K surley with the move i am thinking I will be still around for couple Million per BTC

Technically I sold 10/20% of my portfolio back in 2017 around 18K and almost 50% to buy miners & started Mining in large scale and by 8-9 moths I recovered all of my mining ASIC purchase and bought back more around 6K that is why I am telling technically I sold some BTC but in reality I am still holding more BTC than what I was holding prior to the Original Post  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384876.0) back in 2013/14. I have no plans to sell BTC because for me Mining Income and Farming Income is more than enough for my expenses, Life, Travel and things I like to do, so let my kids decide what they wanna do when they are at there age to takeover.

Let it have couple more Halving its achievable and doable

$50k is on the way and I think that there is not much time left for it to happen. It already got past $44k today and I think this was a some kind of sign. It wouldn't be surprising to see Bitcoin price over $45k very soon. After that, I still expect the run to continue.

I am Gonna Lock This topic, Hopefully I will open New one after some TA, With Couple Million $ target.
Thanks everyone.

can you make another prediction. 50k has been reached, breached and gone. what is the net prediction and can you please make prediction of any altcoins like ethereum, solana and finance. i hope to catch your prediction on those ones. your prediction might be worth following and I think whatever you predict might come to pass. Please predict more.

I am waiting for 130K and after that I will do next.
as about Etherum and others, Everything else than BITCOIN is shitcoin so I don't waste my time in other shits.
Thank You

Wow, how interesting is that, Bitcoin was just really the best looking back at a time when Bitcoin was just nothing and now the market price was already reached around 70k$. I mean the potential of Bitcoin or its market price was just so high, with the limited supply of 21 million bitcoin, at the moment we already have an all-time high just like that and we only have around 5% of people around the world who knows or use bitcoin. Just imagine what is going to be the market price if that people increases to around 30% or even up to 100% the market price surely is going to skyrocket at that point.

I've learned my lesson in the past years throughout the market cycles and if we are going to base on that market is always going to come back higher, I mean it is still a risky investment for most people but we believed that bitcoin is going to reach millions of dollars or even more, I'm not going to sell my bitcoin, probably going to take profit from time to time every bull run but it was just too good of investment so it's difficult to sell all of my Bitcoin because I believed on it and its potential, bitcoin is still on its process and still continue to adapt around the world.

Nice, just interesting to see and look back at this kind of thread and moving forward, seeing how far BTC price currently. I mean we have reach $50k and obviously our next stop is at least $100k.

I do agree that majority here should stick to Bitcoin, although we might considered Ethereum as a solid altcoin, but still nobody can beat Bitcoin as this point. So onwards in the future and do hope that we will see 6 digits as the next all time high.

130K is a very big thing to wait for and I think it is a very long time coming for Bitcoin although it is definitely worth the wait as I would also love to see 130K in Bitcoin in the future. And for other things like non-Bitcoin, I think it depends on each person's perspective on what they perceive it to be because until now I haven't seen any other cryptocurrency that is better than Bitcoin. Hopefully we can all see 130K in Bitcoin although for now I'm expecting 50K in the near future.

The same when we wait $50,000 last bull run, we thought that it's not going to be hit, but then again, the market went on a massive run from $3k during the height of corona virus scare in March 2020 to a new all time high of $69,000 in 2021.

So I will say that everything is still possible in the market. Maybe that $100,000 is just the tip price in the next bull run. As others have been expecting as high $200,000 (although I think that's exorbitant prediction, nevertheless, as I have said, no one knows so we will leave that price as open for now).

Yes, we are one of those who make up the majority of this bitcoin HODL as an annual long-term investment instrument that we must hold.
Favorite altcoin Ethereum, ETH a solid coin that is able to hold on to second place with a sizeable market cap but still can't surpass bitcoin because it's too far, I don't think bitcoin will ever be shifted in first place in the market.

6 digits? not a wild guess but I believe this is a price that will soon be reached for the next, at least 100K we can still survive and if the price is more than 100K we get a big profit if we don't sell at 100K.

HODL for now!.

It's seems almost big thing with Bitcoin price $130k because current price under $30k, nothing impossible for bitcoin price since success made all time high to $65k but current price seems not supported for bitcoin can reach fantastic price until $130k. I think too high expecting with bitcoin raise $130k and for $50k seems realistic target without 60% current bitcoin price right now.
Waiting with halving close one or two months left and seeing will bitcoin success up to higher price or still stuck under $30k. However positive news will give good impact for bitcoin price will going up and bad news make bitcoin drop drastically, lets waiting when near with halving have good news or bad news?

Today is the red market again so that the hope to soon reach $ 50k must be delayed, but we must be optimistic that the end of the year the price can reach at least $ 50k because there are many factors, of course the biggest factor that can be a trigger is Halving Day which will occur in 2024 or less from a year.

I believe bitcoin will cross not only $50k it will cross $100k within short times. We saw Bitcoin went $69k in2021. Now a days bitcoin is very popular. Bitcoin has become more and more popular in the post covid-19. People from different professions are now on Bitcoin, They are trading and holding bitcoin very much. Bitcoin being popular day by day. Bitcoin useability is also increasing day by day. So Bitcoin price will go more up there has no doubt. I think bitcoin trying to control world economy. If this trend continues then Bitcoin will dominate world economy. So I would say Bitcoin is going Towards a bright future. Not only $50k or $100k Bitcoin will go $1m or more today or tomorrow.

I'm curious, how short is that?
So far I have been waiting $100k for so long but in reality bitcoin took a long time to reach $100k. Of course some people have seen and enjoyed bitcoin's rise to $69k in 2021, but it will take us a few years to see the price move repeat itself.


There has to be some obvious reason why $100k makes sense, I think halving is one of them instead of just bitcoin's popularity. Increased adoption and real use cases will also push prices higher due to demand, but still we need to be patient about longer time frames instead of short terms. Maybe 2-3 years from now we'll see $100k or more, but it could be less than 2 years from now.

Man you are awesome! You replied to a comment of 2021 in 2023, and that's amazing to see. However, I'm quite sure that the one who posted the comment is not going to follow this thread because that user might have forgot about the comment in those years.

I agree with you that other than Bitcoin everything else is considered as a shit-coin and a shit-coin won't be able to make someone a good investor because they can go down in value anytime and the only one coin that would stay forever would be the king of the crypto-currencies Bitcoin.

I also expect that Bitcoin will soon cross the value of $120k, and I wish that it would reach the value of $130k or more in 2024-2025. The value increase of Bitcoin is a sure thing and that thing will most probably take place in those coming years after the halving event.

Welcome back op and its nice to see that you are making now some another approach when it comes to price predictions on which that 50k did able to reach out and now expecting for $130k?
This is somewhat realistic compared to those who are waiting for 500k or even  a million for this upcoming bull run. It is really that good or wise on doing so on taking up such step on accumulating
while the price is low at the moment on which it would really be just that wise if you are holding for long but if you do make out some short trades then it would really be putting up on that skeptical
part basing up on the current movement which is really that somewhat stagnant or doesnt make much of a movement. This is why it would really be that always good and preferred on having that
realistic approach when it comes to price predictions and approach so that you wont really be expecting that much with those high numbers which turns out to be not achievable on a short
time duration or period.

Another 2-3 years may still be reasonable enough to reach ATH $100k, and that price is really what all crypto users are waiting for.
Halvings will be the cause of all this and indeed the development of the real adoption of bitcoin use also provides impetus for bitcoin to continue to push its boundaries.

But not everything goes well, there are many people who are also against Bitcoin or crypto because they cannot be fully regulated.
Just hitting the last ATH at $69k is good enough.
Halving will occur in 2024 and 2025 hopefully the highest price that everyone hopes for can be achieved.

I think that’s a good take and we will likely see a new all time high in 2025. Bitcoin does have a major test in front of it though. It has never seen a real recession and the fed seems hell bent on causing one to stop inflation. If it gets bad then people and companies might have to capitulate. However, if that doesn’t happen I think over $100K in 2025 is almost a certainty.

Great I like the long term threads, the hodl guy I believe was still around though my memory might be wrong as it wasn't recent but it had too many non relevant posts on it so it was locked and the guy who sold his house to buy BTC also he did an update if Im remembering right but they should now start a new thread to update and it'd be just as valid.

A long term view is needed but I wonder how people estimate or keep a fair target over many years.  I use charts alot and totally rely on how the various time frames integrate to give a bigger picture over a decade or more.  Which news source would you be relying on besides this forum perhaps, if anything the people involved over a decade or more should be speaking more on their perspective & experiences etc.  as we have varied greatly over that time.


[Hodl is not active user but did remake a thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1919742.0]

The bitcoin price prediction that you put forward before has now become a reality, even the bitcoin price once exceeded $ 50k. I'm sure the people who didn't believe you when you created the thread, would have felt disbelief. Because what I see, from the thread you made, the replies from btt members at that time, mostly commented that it took a long time for bitcoin to arrive at a price of $ 50k, and some even commented that this was impossible. But all the comments in your thread first, that said bitcoin would take a very long time to reach a price of $50k and for people that said it was impossible. Now all the replies from the people who made this opinion have all been refuted.

Honestly, when I saw this thread you created, I became more motivated to continue investing in bitcoin and hold it for a long time. Because it is possible that the price of bitcoin in the next 10 years can touch a price of more than $ 100k and that is not impossible.

And it's really a very extraordinary topic, and I think it's very spectacular. why can you say it's spectacular, because what keeps the thread alive and still there when bitcoin has reached a price of $ 50k.

Now the number of institutional investors has increased. The number of companies owning Bitcoin has also grown. I speak For December 2023, it is seen as a critical moment for the crypto market as well as being an important turning point for the Crypto Market for this year. So, Will Bitcoin's 4 Year Market Cycle Continue or Change Again? It's just my feeling.

This year has been running for seven months and from the looks of it there seems to be no bad news that could destroy the price of Bitcoin in the market except just holding in the $30K area. And this could mean that someday before next year there is good news that could affect the increase in the price of Bitcoin, I think it will happen significantly to Bitcoin even if not for $130K because from the price levels it looks like right now it's still a very large amount to be achieved by Bitcoin with a duration of time that may not be sufficient if only for this year.

With the increasing number of adoptions, there should be a better value, but if we evaluate the market now, it's still volatile, as evidenced by the fact that only during the bull run does the market pump and become overvalued. If we want to see consistent growth, the bull market should not give us a massive increase, as that would only indicate pure manipulation.

Take a look at other coins that pumped during the last bull run, like DOGE; it only pumped because Elon Musk hyped it. However, look at what happened to the price now; it was not able to sustain its value, and some investors probably panicked and dumped their coins. This situation could also be related to bitcoin, as overall, the crypto market (bitcoin and altcoins) is subject to hype and becomes overvalued when the bull run comes and is not free from manipulation.

Well there were some thoughts after the bull run in 2021 that we might see different cycles, maybe 2 big bullish cycles but it didn't go that way. Meaning, and this is just to me, the 4 year cycle are going to continue and it won't break because simply because of the block halving.

So in the next bull run, it might be in 2024-2025 pump, next year we will see the halving early, and for sure, it will b e a slow growth after that. But months next, then it will slowly grow and we might see $50k again and then new all time high of 6 digits. And for sure by that time, the OP is still alive.  ;D

That's what I'm wondering, people keep saying that bitcoin adoption is increasing or people are actively accumulating because the halving is approaching, but bitcoin and the market still don't have any positive movement. This shows that people are just saying what they are thinking with no proof for that or as you say, the market is being pure manipulation.

For me, the reason is both, people won't buy bitcoin if they are waiting for the price to drop further even though the halving is approaching. Second, this market is so small and nothing compared to other financial markets that manipulation is inevitable.

Hopefully, $100k will be reached at least in 2025 or maybe sooner if there is no big FUD attacking Bitcoin.
The Fed is indeed a steep road that must be passed and also like the SEC which only provides unilateral rules but only affects the US.

Bitcoin has received many tests to date, but we can see that Bitcoin can continue to rise and even break the negative speculation given to Bitcoin.
We just need to focus on the future.

Bitcoin is inevitable, there will be a time when Bitcoin will be adopted and become a good optional payment system in the future.

Slipping below weekly average for a while now. Below the ice in terms of failing to recover the prior highs for some time also.   Its looking like we revise the whole set of prices down to 25k more certainly every day.      What isnt certain is how we dip down, brief spike or a slow sink to the bottom of the trench  :P   I think price generally needs to hit bottom or discover the boundaries of its range, once its done so some confidence is recovered and we can start to begin back up to test the other side of the box we're in.  Thats how I generally think of pricing, nobody wants to be the person who steps in front of a mack truck and bets we go up from here, it takes alot to stop the inertia as sometimes BTC is unstoppable not just down but up as well but not for now.

Current Bitcoin price still not stable yet after difficult break out above $32k right now drop to $29k, have been one or two months ago Bitcoin not have good progress back to higher price and don't know possibility for bitcoin back to $50k. Actually few months left before halving Bitcoin could give positive impact and going up to higher price, but we need waiting for longer time Bitcoin price reach to $50k or not any possibility for bitcoin crashing down before halving time coming.

Have chance or not for Bitcoin in few weeks later drop to $25k? bitcoin transaction volume looks drop drastically than last several months and difficult for raising to higher price or up until $50k.

Yeah, your still alive.. but just wanna ask something and don't get mad at me for this query of mine okay, besides, you don't have to answer it, due to its just pop up into my mind only.
If ever Bitcoin reach 50k$ each, that means you are ready to die?
I ask this because It seems like this is what you want to convey in a topic you created in the link you provided here. But I think I am wrong to my understanding right? And as far as I concern Bitcoin was already reached 68k$ during 2021, therefore 50k$ each is not imposible anyway.

To quote what you said, "accumulating and no positive price movement”, means you don't understand what is the accumulation phase of the market if you are expecting rapid movement to start happening. In fact, the accumulation phase is the most boring time of the market when nothing much used to happen and when most people get tired and even begin to lose hope in Bitcoin.

The market is now gathering momentum and don't expect anything $1k-$2k price movement a day until when it's dam fucken time.

It does become overvalued at times when the bull happens but also it becomes a little undervalued when the bear run happens as well. Right now, we are undervalued and bitcoin should be much higher than 30k, I am not saying that it should be 100k today, but at least a 50k would make sense.

The reality that we are not there at the moment is not really that great, and should be worried as well. I get that it will not be simple but that is the reality we are living in right now. There are way too many people who are arguing about the fact that bull run timing will be this or that, they argue a lot, but we all know that bull run will come again so the timing doesn't matter as long as we keep buying bitcoin at this moment.

I believe that there is a good chance we could see it change any situation all the time, because if you could end up holding as long as possible then you will do fine. This is basically what I did so far, I have HUGE debt right now, way more than I could have ever paid in my life, way way way too much debt, I didn't pay my old debt and made even more debt, I decided not to pay it, and just pay minimum I could pay and keep not spending my money and just use credit card and grow my debt. That sounds like terrible thing isn't it?

Well, during the same time I invested, and I made profit, so right now not only I have enough to pay my debt back, but also have double what I owe, so I am in huge profit thanks to this method.

The big thing that we are waiting for right now is that the price will reach $50k soon, if the price can reach $50k then I am optimistic that early 2024 before the halving day the price can reach at least $100k, looking at the current situation of course it looks difficult to reach $50k, but the thing we have to be sure of is that there are always surprises in bitcoin.

Bitcoin is hard to predict but with so many people optimistic about bitcoin and bitcoin price forecast to reach $50k, as bullish as everyone is on bitcoin, the cryptocurrency will likely enter a short term bearish phase, just like it did in mid 2019. It looks like the cryptocurrency market is about to enter an exciting new chapter in 2024 and may surprise everyone. Predicts that the bitcoin price could cross the $50,000 mark thanks to a halving next year.

I've given up hoping that Bitcoin will reach $50,000 before the year is over. Where I will be looking for the price of Bitcoin to reach $50k will be next year not even this year. Currently, Bitcoin tends to decline and stay below $30k throughout the third quarter of the year. In the fourth quarter of the year, Bitcoin may start to see an uptrend movement that would eventually drive its price to $45k.
Am optimistic that bitcoin will reach $50,000 within a month or so before the halving season next year. 

Maybe it's really a good idea to wait for the era of the halving period to come [2024], and then we can be sure that this price will be reached.But for this year, other possibilities can still occur, and it is difficult to predict correctly.Even some analysts predict that there will be another correction and that it will reach $20K; of course, this is not a surprise and it could happen because the situation has not fully recovered.But precisely for me, this is an opportunity to continue to buy and hold it if there is indeed going to be a correction; in fact, this has a positive impact.

Looking at the current market situation, of course, we are still far from talking $ 50k, in fact I would be happy if at the end of this year it could close at $ 35k, many speculators sell immediately when they see an increase, making it difficult for the market to go up, especially since there are always big issues worry the user, if the price can reach $ 50k that would be a big achievement this year.