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Do not be too happy that big and giant companies are entering the field…
Because they set the price up and down whenever they want…
You should be happy when ordinary people invest more than big companies.
In simpler terms, it is much better if bitcoin or anything else that exists is distributed all over the world and reaches individuals and companies equally, or, as the saying goes, does not accumulate together.
Wherever governments or large corporations stand, they are sure to determine everything.
Successful and healthy  ;)

Yeah, you do have a valid point. This is promoting more and more centralization.

On the contrary, who are stopping these big companies from entering the field? This is open market and we can't really control who or what entity are going to buy. Besides, ordinary people can invest or used bitcoin as form of money.

Again, I find your argument flaw in the beginning. From Africa to Asia, anyone can invest, so it is still distributed all over. It's not just US big companies are entering, there are also wealthy people from Mexico to Asia, so there's nothing wrong with the current market situations. And it's good the bitcoin has evolved has well.

Yeah,but the ordinary people are seeing that large companies trust Bitcoin,so Bitcoin will definitely look more legit in the eyes of the "Average Joe".
Manipulating the BTC price is illegal and large banks and corporations still have to comply with the rules set by the government officials.
Bitcoin cannot be "distributed equally".The people and companies with more money will get more Bitcoins.Unfortunately the poor are excluded from the distribution of wealth and resources.That's how capitalism works.
I'm not happy,because I don't have enough Bitcoins. ;D
Institutional investors might bring a little bit more stability to the BTC market,because the small investors and crypto traders are more into short term trading,so they are more likely to panic sell and leave the market,when a price crash occurs.

This is a very selfish opinion, in my opinion. Whoever adopts Bitcoin should not matter, because the whole point is we are achieving Bitcoin massive adoption by these massive companies, and why fear them for manipulating the market if you could wait for the right moment always to convert your Bitcoin? Also, with massive companies, they could easily promote Bitcoin to the whole world because they have more influence than ordinary people.

For example is Elon Musk, a very simple tweet on twitter made a lot of people to go on FOMO and buy Bitcoin. I think with the Government, it would be hard to do that since they will have a lot of explaining it to the community how and why they should start buying Bitcoin.

Can we just adjust or be patient because we have nothing to do with those big investors if they can somehow manipulate the market.

The only thing we can do is to be patient, adapt, and become more effective in the market when we will deal with it.

I just want you to know that being an investor is really not that easy especially if you are holding a cryptocurrency that is volatile in the market.

We have a lot of things to understand more before we can make this bitcoin investment profitable without being affected by large investors.

Wrong mindset to begin with, yes we understand that those institutions and big companies are taking much of the bitcoins right now but as average investors, we can still get BTC in small portions. And you have to remember that they are investing on it not as a speculative asset, meaning they are not going to sell, instead put their reserve asset into bitcoin as a hedge. That's why manipulators are going to have a difficult time to dump hard in order to take advantage of noobs. Now these institutional investors have change the game so we also need to adapt to it.

But unfortunately, world doesn't work that way and we need to accept that life is so unfair.

That's the reason why there are a lot of investors who are working hard to make their assets grow in the market and bitcoin is the number 1 utilized cryptocurrency for growth of investments. And if bitcoin will equally distributed then probably its value will become lesser than today.

We just need to act depending on the situations in the market so that we can somehow make our investments grow and still.

Those people who are happy or excited about this are those already have position or already accumulated more Bitcoin, that's why they are excited and eager to pump the market.
You can see some of people like this on social media, just like what I saw in Twitter about talking Tesla and Bitcoin, like how the Bitcoin price will react if Tesla will announce that they are already buying Bitcoin before as company's reserve. It is possible for me and they have also point that it may pump, Tesla is one of the giant companies these days.

They can manipulate the market, they have the bigger amount now which really is scary if you think about it. The only solution is to hodl to your bitcoin even if the price is still increasing because they might be planning on monopolizing the prices by selling them when there is nothing available at the exchanges. Their dumps will send waves that everyone will definitely feel.

You have a point but bitcoin is about freedom and everyone can use and buy it at all certain levels of life. Normal and ordinary guy or an entire enterprise and corporation. Nothing stops them and individuals to buy bitcoin.
As long as they're happy to buy it, we all should be happy if there are more investors coming and making bitcoin's price higher.

I don't agree at all. Big companies cannot manipulate the price so easily. They can influence the price more than individuals, of course, but when institutional investors started buying more than 18 million BTC had been mined already. Also, as price and market cap increases, price is more difficult to manipulate.

I am really happy that they entered the market and I will be more happy if more companies enter. What you are defending is kind of communism where bitcoin is equally distributed all over the world and I don't agree with that. Those who mined or invested early and still hold some have the right to profit more. Likewise, those who invest today have the right to have more profits than those who will do in 10 years time.

When multimillionaire companies buy Bitcoin, ordinary people start to realize that Bitcoin is a worthy investment. Maybe it's the reason to be happy.

The market price will rise and fall anyway, even without the 'help' of these big companies. There is indeed a possibility for these businesses to manipulate the market price due to their holdings but I don't think changes will be for a long run given that there is no one having that huge amount to do so. Also, as from what I have read these past few months, companies adopting this technology are more into taxation because they are third party networks, in general. If if they would choose to enter the 'game', they will be also at risk due to the nature of market volatility. So I'd say it is still quite fair and the only difference of them is having larger amount of Bitcoin, perhaps in this case.

Agree with some stances because ordinary people will buy BTC in craziness as the price is keep in going but they want to be very careful before investing in BTC at this price because this momentum will not keep going the price will surely fall in someday and that's how the market is. Those who bought last year or bought in cheap prices are already in millionaires list.

And yes this is independent market where everyone has rights to enter, so let's don't make it too complicated. Let's have a positive mind and keep going.

It is an open market and we live in capitalism. Whether we like it or not, institutions need to get involved in order to scale Bitcoin globally and promote adoption. Bitcoin supply might get more centralized this way, but remember that there are multiple shareholders in these companies so technically each one of them holds a chunk of the positions.

For the network to function properly it is important that the nodes are decentralized, not really the supply allocation.

People always said that BTC is manipulated, previously it was whales or China, now everyone will blame Wall Street whenever they lose money on their trades. With this logic anything that is traded on free markets os manipulated and controlled by some "elites". But this isn't really true, and Bitcoin has some good example for it. At one point in the past there was a single trader nicknamed bearwhale, who could crash the market by dumping his coins. But at some point the market just absorbed his stash and he went out of the game. Anyone who tries to manipulate such a big market could easily get rekt.

They don't care about it all, at this time the fun has peaked for those who invest in Bitcoin, what they think is to sell and enjoy it all.

No matter the big companies get into Bitcoin and buy up everything, so does the game and fixing a price when they want, what is clear is that everyone today sees and takes all of that, determining something if that's what they have to do, not a challenge anymore for current Bitcoin users, they are satisfied and happy.

I don't get too excited about all the new companies buying bitcoin, I know the have other motives that revolves around profiting from the industry not minding if it goes down the drain in the process. We know there's no way all this companies will come into the industry and not make their presence felt either via manipulating the market directly or indirectly through creating fomo etc.

Among all that have bought bitcoin of recent (I'm speaking about the Institutional investors), that of paypal was the one I felt a little bit of excitement as their involvement in the industry will be bringing more utilities with time. Firstly they'll be increasing the mainstream reach of the currency and with time they'll begin introducing features that'll boost the adoption of the currency.

Others are just after the monetizing value the industry will be adding to their companies without adding any value to the growth of the industry in regards to adoption and not just price appreciation.

People should be happy because the adoption of these companies in bitcoin is one of the major reason while bitcoin is going up to these extend, because in history of btc it has not gotten to these rate in price before, everyday or every two days bitcoin keeping on adding values, my major concern concerning the increments is that with these measure I don't think someone persons can afford purchasing one bitcoin like before because of companies involves in cryptocurrency and bitcoin in particular, I'm just seeing that all these companies are buying and holding btc, which if my taught is real it will be difficult to buy bitcoin in future if the rate persists by raising the way its currently.

I somewhat agree with you but it depends on a trader whether he/she is ready to take risk of holding or not. In my opinion long-term holding would be the good idea if you are not afraid of the daily fluctuation of Btc even there are many traders who did not sold when BTC touches last year its low because they have a faith in Btc and today we can see they are in unbelievable profit. Market makers everywhere manipulate the market and we can not do anything on that. Those who are in profit is quite happy now provided they book the profit.

Yeah you are right as bitcoin and other crypto prices can be easily monopolize by big whales or big investors as their decision can easily affect the market because their holding are quite huge wherein the market can easily crash if the big investors will decide to start to dump their holdings.

For investors, it is not bad to become happy on what is happening right now but we should be wise, careful and always monitor the movement of the market so we can maximize our profit as much as possible.

Agreed, with the involvement of the institutions and firms it will be difficult for retail users to gain enough profit as they can manipulate the price at will. Paypal has already announced that you can buy crypto through Paypal and with more companies coming in, we will see more volatility in short term to remove all retail crypto holders through panic selling.

The smart plot is always investing when the price is on a correction phase and if you are looking for profit then you really do not care about who is investing to pump the price and institutional investment is nothing new, they will always find good investment opportunities and invest heavily and that is their modus operandi and we knew that the price would rally after halving and if you invested well before that you could reap the profit which is not possible in any other financial market.

All the big organizations are in the market or field for their own benefit likewise we the ordinary people, I don't think they will cause any  havoc in the market in the name of manipulation havimg study and read the white paper of BTC whatever be the case I believed they can't beat the down to the minimum with any sort of manipulations because the numbers of individual hodlers is huge too its going to be a win-win to both side thus there is no cause for alarm.

Bitcoin growth has not always been owned by one of the big companies. based on equality having boundaries is better than owning bitcoin freely. the reason is because it provides an opportunity for individuals to collect bitcoins bit by bit, and can be on par with large companies. I would argue that bitcoin adoption policies are restricted to large companies that can easily buy and sell large amounts of bitcoin.

Well, Why I shouldn't. If I am going to own bitcoin then with those big companies around owning bitcoin can help so much the investors to earn by having a good market gaining through those companies that are joining. That is the good thing of having them that if you have plan to buy bitcoin. You should be earlier than them so that you will be the one to benefit.

To be honest, I am not happy with the new ATH price of bitcoin because it is tough for me to decide if I will hold, sell, or buy more bitcoins. I don’t really have a massive amount of bitcoin, so I wanted to buy more bitcoin. Unfortunately, it is too late for me to buy bitcoin due to its current high price. The only thing that I am happy about bitcoin is that huge companies are getting interested in bitcoin and blockchain technology.

there are pros and cons that will inevitably occur...
when companies with very large funds buy Bitcoin they will indirectly be one of the controllers of the Bitcoin price, I think it's a time bomb.

Every stated opinion here are valid and has their own points. Truly, big investors has both advantage and disadvantage in the market.
These investments has significantly contributed to the rise of BTC price and so the possible risks these could give due to major significance in the market.
I think that the bottom line here is that there will always be bigger and more influential entity compare to us, so we need to observe and be wiser in making decisions.

Focus on your own wealth.  Otherwise it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.  If everyone became paranoid about the supposed influence of whales and didn't get involved in Bitcoin, it really would hand full control to the whales.

In fact, one might suspect that's the gambit of peddling such a narrative...

Even at that it is still a big deal to have big company because they have the means to push both price and adoption, the ordinary people or normal individuals had the opportunity to get in but only few are willing to do so till now, if institutional investors are willing to invest then I see the problem, even if price will go down it will get back up again like always.

It is very difficult for people to own and use bitcoins. 

Bitcoin is not an anonymous and private cryptocurrency.  A Bitcoin user will go through KYC and AML procedures on a crypto exchange, and then transfer the coins to their wallet. 

But who will help him if he is attacked by extortionist bandits?  Bitcoin does not need intermediaries in its work.  However, everything has a downside.  It is difficult for a Bitcoin user to defend against external attacks.  This also applies to the attack of cunning hackers and the attack of a gang of thugs. 

It's another matter if the holder is an institution or a large organization.  She can proudly declare herself the owner of bitcoins. 

It is easy for a large organization to protect its property from all threats and attacks.

It's basically the risk of going crypto. No matter what you do and make, there is someone with a lot of BTC that could drive the market up or down depending on how much they can, and that's just the risk. I hope everyone is accounting for all their expenses and income concerning their financial status. I believe that Bitcoin being part of the big companies is advantageous to everyone to those who have BTC. Whether it's going up or not, it's always going to be a momentum.

I suggest being happy with what you have and do not expect anything out of the market.

On the other hand, there are some average Joes out there that are very happy because of the price of Bitcoin right now and because these institutions are slowly coming into Bitcoin and buying it.

Little they know is that these institutions can manipulate the market anytime they want as they are currently holding a huge chunks of Bitcoins in their wallet. They have the power to set the price they want. They have the power to pump and dump the market. I agree with you though that it would be better if Bitcoin will be spread throughout to us ordinary people to prevent further manipulation but it is what it is. The one who has more money will have the power :D.

Everyone always has a choice. Buy bitcoin or not. The maximum number of bitcoins is limited to 21 million. Anyone has the right to redeem as much as he wishes. Anyone who understands and believes in the future of bitcoin will try to invest in it as early as possible. The more the popularity of bitcoin becomes, the more it will be bought by large companies. Everything seems logical.
Now the question. If Bitcoin is not so popular, and it is not bought up by huge companies, how can it become the world's reserve currency?
Anyone who understands the significance of bitcoin is quick to respond to their place in it. So it was and will be.

I think that's true. Some large companies getting into cryptocurrencies may want special advantages for their own companies. They easily gave an idea and then they said "we're not talking about pricing, but about the platform". I think it's a big mistake, for the crypto community the price of an asset also signifies the success of the project. Projects that care about the community and investors it is a great project and for projects that are just looking for investors regardless of their community is a shit project. We see bitcoin as very concerned with the community because it doesn't look at the rich and poor, I hope the new project can model this bitcoin.

We are happy  :o . Big companies investment mean big pump in price. How fast BTC price growing we cannot expect this.

Big companies, wholesalers are certainly delighted by the sharp increase in bitcoin, and it will continue until this year that joy will occur. but not for me maybe also mostly with small capital or just rely on the bounty. because altcoins cannot quickly catch up with what has happened with bitcoin, so many bounties are successful but cannot pay properly.

hope this year that the bounty will increase sharply and the altcoins grow new at a very good price so that my colleagues and I can also enjoy the fun like a wholesaler to see bitcoin price increase.

Bitcoin market is a general market which anyone can take advantage to make some gains, for the past months there have been an increase into the market by institutions and this is good for the entire industry. Although, there are advantages and disadvantages to this effect but who cares?, they determine the price up-down doesn't make anyone dumb to take profit when there's an opportunity. We are all here to take profit including the institutions, so, is a free fight for all which is the best for the entire ecosystem.

Having big companies invest millions into BTC is needed! It is the burst we can't avoid, this is the type of 'big' investments that BTC needs to show its strength.
Think about it, if large corporations did not see the value of storing their capital into BTC their million of $$$ will go into something else, not that gold is now a good alternative.

I understand that this means that the regular people will have more of a difficult time to get into the market, specially when the price is bumping, but you can't convince everybody that BTC is where they should put their savings in.

Therefore, big companies investing into BTC is inevitable and at the same time necessary. This will also inadvertently lead to more adoption of both big and small investors, as well as individuals.

Bitcoin market is an overall market that anybody can exploit to make a few additions, for as long as months there has been an expansion in the market by foundations and this is useful for the whole business. In spite of the fact that there are favorable circumstances and detriments with this impact, what difference does it make? they decide the cost up-down doesn't make anybody imbecilic to take benefit whenever there's a chance.

There is no restriction to buy and sell bitcoin, it's a free market for everyone even for institutional investors and big companies. Although they have bought bitcoin and accumulation a large amount, at least they don't plan to dump it at once and store it as a reserve asset, they have inspired more people to get into bitcoin investment.
Therefore, we have to be prepared whenever the time might come when the institutional investors require to sell bitcoin, the price may be corrected 40% - 80%.

The big companies manipulates the value because they have big funds once they sell the coins that they hold fhe result will dump the value and people possible to panic selling and price will dump more and that is the time big companies will invest again and once they rise they will repeat of what they are doing. It is better to have simple investors but a a lot of them needed to success the project..

I love it. It had driven prices up for the moment but when they start going down they will be the first to start dumping.   Buying a couple of years worth of bitcoin production is just silly.

I suppose if you buy enough bitcoin then you control the market and can charge what you like for them. 

One thing to keep in mind is that if someone does possess a sizeable amount of wealth and wanted to manipulate the price of an asset, it would still be easier and less costly for them to move the price of an altcoin.  People pump and dump smaller coins all the time.  It's low-hanging fruit.  Smaller coins generally have fewer people holding them.  And the people that do hold them may not have a particularly strong level of confidence in the long-term survival of such coins.  All in all, this makes for weak hands who are likely to sell.  Far easier to manipulate compared to something like Bitcoin.

Why, entry into the cryptocurrency market of large companies is generally very good for the distribution of cryptocurrency. Without a lot of capital, people had no confidence in the future of cryptocurrency. The fact that large corporations are investing their money in cryptocurrency gives people such confidence. They know that large companies invest money only if they are fully confident in the profitability of their investments. One cannot count on states in this matter. They will not actively support the cryptocurrency and invest in it.

It would be better for the BTC economy if what you are saying will happen but I think it is kinda impossible for BTC to reach all people because of the capability of an individual to have the needed devices and money to acquire BTC.  On the contrary, it is also good to have a company and institution to enter the Bitcoin economy because it gives a strong foundation on the market value of BTC.  Besides, the majority of the coin was already mined, and ever since only a few people hold the majority of Bitcoin.  So I don't think it will make a difference in terms of Bitcoin distribution when the institution comes in, but it does make a difference in terms of market valuation.

Why not, I am very happy when a large company enters the crypto market. Because here people judge that the crypto market is more viable than others. Of course this will also increase the value of the crypto and bitcoin population, the more people want to invest.

You have a point, however instead of having early adopter whales we are going to have institutional investors becoming the whales so the game as a whole will not change at all.

Also for years we have tried to get regular people in the market and they simply refused to listen, so while I would have liked a distribution of bitcoin that was more even that is something that is not up to me to decide, people had their chance to buy a lot of bitcoin for cheap and if they did not took advantage of the opportunity then that is on them.

Nah, I have never been happy about it, because I have been seeing how these companies are buying up lots of bitcoins with their huge money and I don’t really like it. What you said here is what I have always wanted, I want Bitcoin to be more distributed to individuals and not even companies.

Although some are happy because they only care about how much the price will increase as companies continues to invest their money in this market. But will these companies hold their assets forever? They definitely would not, because they will want to sell at some point, and since they a huge position, it will affect the market seriously.

There might be a problem with the supply in the future where it would be hard for an ordinary individual to accumulate Bitcoin. However, as smart holders, no matter how big companies would manipulate the market, we should still take advantage of every market situation. We can't control huge companies in buying Bitcoin and we can't stop them from selling either so we have to do something to make profit no matter what the market situation is.

This is right and i believe that the most important thing is to make the majority of people know about crypto and not the big companies because they can manipulate the price to make profits and make the people lose theire investment and stop believing in crypto

Without a doubt this is one of the dangers of institutional investors coming to this market and becoming whales in the process, the whales that we had so far were for the most part people that really believed in bitcoin for the long term and as such they kept most of their coins in cold storage, however we cannot expect the very same behaviour from institutional investors and as you say it is likely that at some point they will want to sell.

However some institutional investors that are coming to this market are doing it because they are losing their faith in the dollar and they think that there is a strong possibility that there could be a crash in the economy during the next decade and they are using bitcoin as a hedge against that event and if that is the case then most likely they will not be willing to sell anytime soon either.

I doubt if those huge financial institutions would dump their bitcoin, cause they actually bought bitcoin as a store of value not for trading purpose, and besides the only guys I know who pump and dump price are the whales during the 2017, they literally had control over bitcoin price, and I agree with you it's good if bitcoin is more adopted and bought by normal individuals around the world than financial institutions owning them,but there's nothing we can do the normal individuals don't have much money while the financial institutions have alot of money to invest, so its still okay that way.

I guess people are being more adaptive on getting into Bitcoin because they find a strong reason why to get into it for the fact that when big companies invest into it, surely it is legitimate and will be worthy to get engage with. Ordinary people and big companies have their own free will to decide whether they will invest or not and there is no need to set boundaries or to give way just to let ordinary people to invest with Bitcoin because the fact that Bitcoin have already existed long years ago, it is their choice that they have just lately realize the importance and worth of Bitcoin. But still there is a point on the argument stated that can still be considered why we still cannot full be glad about what is happening because only few can adapt on having and using Bitcoin.

That is why you shouldn't sell, can't give those in power more than what they already have

While I believe the same, it is impossible to completely know what a person or group of persons are going to do in the future, after all what will happen if those institutional investors suddenly make a lot of bad moves and they are forced to sell their bitcoin?

They will have to sell at whatever price the market is giving them and most likely there will not be enough liquidity to absorb all of those coins bringing a crash in the process, I know it is unlikely but we must remember that anything can happen in the markets.

I think the institutions investments are for a longer term and they don't just buy to dump and buy back again cheap. Although if all of the institutions started to buy the bitcoin, it will become very expensive and the wealth (bitcoin) will remain in the hand of the rich.

It's probably a positive influence on Bitcoin and its price. However, I don't think it's a good thing for small traders and investors. The market can easily be manipulated by flooding it with extensive amounts of Bitcoin, driving price down. Did notice it once, when I was trying to sell on Bitstamp, there were several large Bitcoin transactions (Over 2-3 BTC) and drove the price downwards in a matter of minutes.

It has already read positive impact on Bitcoin market and price but we still need to prepare for what may happen when it market bloodbath which is the season i expect the institutions to dump their holding.

Honestly, it a good thing for small traders and investors who can ride along with the institutions decision but I don't like the idea of trading 24/7 though.

Things should be expected and what you ought to do if you are not selling for an emergency reason is to hold on until the market pump in price.

I totally agree with everything that you've pointed. Definitely, even us, smaller investors can (Have already to be honest) benefited from this situation. If it wasn't for them, the price wouldn't be on the levels it is today. It definitely have both advantages and disadvantages.
Valid points, indeed.

That doesn't mean anything since there are already a lot of individual that owns a lot of bitcoins than those companies. It shouldn't matter as there are a lot of hands out there that holds bitcoin and can make an effect in the market. They are not the only one taking a profit, a lot of people does. If the price falls then a lot of people would be having new chances to reinvest.

It is obvious that with the current announcements about Bitcoin it has shown maturity. It is a new stage that will lead us to an advance in technology, institutions are buying bitcoin, ethereum and litecoin as an investment to later seek solutions with the construction of applications.
This is the time of blockchain, everything has been achieved with all the support we have given to the crypto market.

Yah, OP don't need to be like this if people like us is being happy to what bitcoin is doing in the market now, if more and more companies, merchants and some banks are slowly adapting bitcoin and other crypto in their system I think we should be happy, this thing can open many opportunities to others, it can also make the price of the bitcoin to high so  as long as we're happy there's no wrong, so if we get some gains in every investment and we already happy with it, be contented.

I would you know when individual are investing big time? it is difficult. everyone want to be anonymous. Company investment does not necessarily mean they are going to hold a central position because crypto itself does not belong to a central authority and the fact that you hold more than me does not mean you have power over my own crypto or determine the how I spend my asset. However, people get happy when renowned company invest in crypto because it brings the feeling of adopting crypto massively which is one big thing that necessitate continuous increase in the price of the bitcoin today.

You make a point, but the thing is, Bitcoin is for anyone, and no one can stop the other (just like I can't stop you from using it). So, you never can stop any big company from doing what they want. What you said is one of the disadvantage of having them around, but there are advantages too...

But behind that, when many large companies invest as it is today, then bitcoin is increasingly popular and its adoption is increasingly mass. many people
are benefiting from bitcoin’s rise now, including you, if you invest as well. Therefore, also the demand is getting higher. Every individual or large company
and anyone may invest in bitcoin to benefit from it.
Satoshi indeed created bitcoin as a digital currency, but is now more developed as an investment instrument. So there’s no need to worry if a big company
or whoever it is dumps their bitcoins. They’ll buy back.

I have a contrary opinion, even though your points are valid. As an investor, i  want to say that you have every reason to be happy that big corporations are buying into crypto market because it promises price uptrend and massive profits. What you should not do is be carried away, make sure you take profit and take advantage of the positives of the big corporation

I told several times that now grayscale and other big companies can do whatever they want with crypto. They control the market absolutely

This is a common thing as the more BTC will get fame the higher the buyer/investors will be and those who invested more will get more profit.

Obviously, that would be the case. The early adopters would be getting higher profits when it comes to investing. But that doesn't mean that if they get it, they will be having a profit. It will still depend on how you will be working your funds out, it is not always how early you invested it is how you are moving in that certain market.

yes I agree with you .. do not fully trust the big investors, at any time they could throw away their bitcoins .. so in my opinion trading is not greedy.  while profitable then sell your bitcoin.

sometimes that's what a person or a small investor is afraid of. Large companies have the power to dump prices quickly. and they have it all, small investors must always be aware of this in order to avoid big losses

Feel free to correct me, but as to how I comprehend those articles regarding huge companies accepting this mode of payment, they are more of a third party network than investors. As to how I interpret this, they are only into transaction fees and are not into the game itself. Unless those companies would choose to invest and risk in this technology. But primarily, they are into the money in every transaction of their users. Also, it would be hard to manipulate the market price of crypto s as evident to whales in this industry wherein they could make a slight change but not for a long period of time.

you should be happy when you do something good for other people.

When it comes to reality then this isnt something new, of course those people who do have money will really accumulate more compared into those average joe's.

Everyone cant really avoid on not to be happy because we do all hope for global adoption and that would really be including those big companies and other institutional
funds will really be flowing into this market.

Rather than on minding for you not to be happy because of those possibilities then its better to take advantage with those and be alert
if you do see some significant movement that might indicate for some possible dump or bearish market.It all matters on how you do deal
and make out decisions.

I'm always happy regardless of the type of investor that joins the scene. If it's a big company it's even better because it's going to be in the media a bit more.

If you're scared that big investors will manipulate the market, don't be. They don't have time to trade it actively. For them it's usually about the media that will catch the story and give them free advertising and about being safe from possible bank bailouts and seizures. They aren't buying to sell next month.

There is nothing to talk of the transaction fee. Just think if majority of the system is with the common people automatically they can come to a role and fix the transaction charge. Now if the majority holdings will be with the corporate networks, they get the access or beyond certain limit surely they'll try to take control over the transaction fee. Think of the present market situation, they manipulate on need.

not only big companies but your also hating big individual investors because they can control the price as well . you want equality and the solution would be by setting every individual or companies a limit of purchase but infact thats already possible in exchanges although the buyer can still buy another coins on a different exchange because we dont have a single exchange available  . now what ?  i guess we only need to go with the flow with them but its still possible to make a profit as long as you are atentive and can act fast upon every market changes .

I think bitcoin is for everyone, whether it is the upper class or the lower class, so I would appreciate it if large companies enter the crypto world and I hope that with their arrival the price of bitcoin will grow.

I agree with that, especially now that in this generation, people are more prone to using digital and virtual things, even when it comes to payment.

You are right, commercial companies put their money into investing in crypto aimed more at controlling prices, because they are certainly playing with very much money than ordinary people or retail investors. On the plus side, we can feel the increase quickly when they pump bitcoin, but conversely we can also fall very deep when they dump prices.

It is true that they have a lot of capital when they buy bitcoin at a large price, so it is an advantage for those of us who still hold bitcoin, but on the other hand I conclude they can control the digital currency.

Can't agree with this claim. The price of a decentralized asset can't be controlled by a handful of players. There are more than 18 million coins floating around and in order to manipulate the price, these guys need to accumulate at least 30%-40% of the circulating supply. And if they try anything like that, then the prices will end up at six digits (or much beyond that).

For years, many bitcoin hodlers have been  hoping that big companies will make use of Bitcon, and that's because it promotes more acceptance and trust for those who are still doubting it. So, I think anyone interested in bitcoin should be happy about that, after all "BITCOIN IS FOR EVERYONE."

Anyone who is specifically concern about price dump should monitor the market closely, sell when they feel it will dump and re-buy when the price is low. Though this is for those who knows what they are doing.

Institutional investors consider Bitcoin as a speculative asset, unlike ordinary people they don't care about the mass adoption.

It is agreeable that bitcoin and other crypto should stay way as it is right now because just like what you said, there's a possibility that big companies wouldn't be considerate or rational as they set new prices for the coins. It would still be best that the blockchain would work equally all over the world since we've seen detrimental effects of whales already. Even though these big companies might have a hard time controlling the price, it is still feasible as time passes by and as they hold much larger quantity of crypto in the making.

For me, it’s a fluctuating bitcoin. No one can take complete control of this bitcoin market. We just need to act quickly on any market changes because it’s still possible to make a profit. Evidently, although the pope can control the market, there are still many of us as small individual investors who make a lot of profit from the situation they play. For large companies, we don’t have to worry, because they only play the flow of their users’ transactions, not players.

sure. their true goal may be monopoly. finally, they will become the biggest beneficiary and very few private player can have bitcoin...I think we should HODL!

I don't think the big company have ability to contral the price, bitcoin is not goods and hard to monoploy.

I can even feel that Bitcoin has been notified by big companies

I agree with you. BTC will become more stable and valuable once retail investors start buying. Institional investors buy and sell later for profit but good thing is it make BTC more popular when institions buy it.

It is only fun at the beginning but after awhile most of us would also realize it that those giant companies are trying to control it.
We might be happy for the price because of the huge pump that we got when they enter but what happens when they decided to leave?
I think most of us would really be scared due to the fact that it would make the price collapse.

You or anyone can't do anything about that. You can't stop those "giant" companies from entering the market or put any restriction. After all, its a free market. But it is not like "one" single giant company is hoarding all those bitcoins. Hundreds of companies together are doing it. And I am pretty much sure, if we combine the coins of all regular users, we will see that those giant companies actually hold a negligible amount of coins. And, the supply isn't over yet. If those companies wants to own majority of the coins, they will also have to buy all newly minted coins. Would be interesting to see that happen.

I know what you feel when these big companies and institutions are continuously hoarding Bitcoins.
Unfortunately as an ordinary people, there is nothing we can do about it but to ride the waves. Sell when it is on the top or when it reached your target selling price.

Being decentralized, Bitcoin can be bought by any huge companies if they want to and at the same time sell if they want too. This might be a good news for everyone since they are seeing large institutions coming in into crypto but in the long run this might cause price manipulation towards Bitcoin and the crypto in general.

Am still watching the market with large acquisition of bitcoin by institutions. Institutions dont look like those that will sell early but rathers buying more unlike the retails investor, that was when I was worried on any correction in the market if the scarcity is sustained. Without the correction as well the altcoin might struggle and affect the expected trend in the cycle. Since most of their trade are also OTC, exchanges will be able to control sale. Now I appreciate that the institution do not have the sole power to dictate market movement.

they will work on diminishing decentralization. maybe bitcoin will be all theirs. that's sad. so people with bitcoin, HODL!

That is truly an informative subject. I always thought about that this big companies can only follow what the current trend is but thinking about it right now, its possible for them to set a bar low enough for other people to stop learning about Cryptocurrencies which is not a great thing because we are trying to promote Cryptocurrencies and having them scared of purchasing Cryptos is not a good idea.

don't overdo what has been said, especially until people are afraid to buy crypto, things that might be said to be impossible. no power whatsoever can control and influence the movement of crypto apart from the big traders who are also only annoying to manipulate prices according to their wishes, but that is also not easy to do and needs to work together with the companies that actually hold it. if at the same time the price may be controlled and occur, but that also does not guarantee that it will move for long. so don't be lulled by irresponsible information, what we need is that trust in crypto is still high.

In order to manipulate the prices, these companies first need to create scarcity in the market so that they can push the prices upward. After that they will try to sell their assets at peak prices. Now this is going to be beneficial for the individual investors as well. All that we need to do, is to sell our coins at the right time. This is not applicable to those who want to HODL for 10 or 20 years, but for those who are not averse to profit booking at regular intervals.

no .

learning doesnt stop there when the value of cryptos were dumped but what effects it can contribute to you is you may not feel purchasing the coin however you can also feel good when you see that coins price is dropping because you can finally buy them at your desired price  .

we are trying to promote crypto for good and to attract individuals but our efforts are going on waste if there are bastards that are doing the opposite of what we are doing .

Yes, it might be fun at the beginning as the price pump that these companies made after investing on bitcoin but it might ruin the market soon enough as these companies will surely here to make profit. The time that they decided to pull out, the massive investment they made will sure made a massive impact after leaving.

On the other hand, with these companies investing on bitcoin we can see a massive adoption on the market if these continues and the fear that we have if ones company decided to pull out might be reduced as it just be bought by other companies instead. Also, there are huge whales that haven't sold their bitcoins that has been on the crypto ever since it started which can avoid the massive dump if these companies leave.