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US Capitol Stormers Are Now On No-Fly List And Crying At Airports (https://9gag.com/gag/aV7Odo8).


If you want a news article regarding this topic, here you go

Videos of passengers being removed from planes do not indicate federal no-fly status yet, TSA says (https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/11/business/no-fly-list-capitol-riot/index.html).


Its funny how someone says "You're treating me like a black person".

How tables have turned. Its pretty fascinating to see that these terrorists are now being punished for their sins, and this is just the tip of the punishments prepared for them :D.

Exactly.  With 9-11, at least we called the terrorists what they were.

Poor guying having his life ruined for trying to take over the government.  :/

100% deserved. What were these guys thinking? Rioting in the capital and all is going to be fine? I really enjoy these short instagram clips of people getting kicked out of the airport because they were part of the riots. I mean people actually died there, it should definitely have some consequences.

Yes, it's bizarre. Most people would think if they did something illegal somewhere where there are a load of security cameras and TV crews, they might get identified and face consequences further down the line. Perhaps it's a mob mentality thing that nothing can hurt them because they are part of a group, and they don't consider the outcome for themselves as individuals. I don't know. Some weird psychology though.

They think that Trump will back them out, when right now, Trump is under readings for impeachment. And I do really think that Trump will just throw them under the bus.

Still waiting for some new videos with the same content, cause It is fun to see these people suffer  ;D

I agree that they deserve whatever they got. But let me remind you, that people died during the BLM protests as well. Shops were looted and petrol bombs were hurled at the cops. And as far as I know, the BLM protestors never faced any such issues and are still treated like freedom fighters by Biden/Kamala. If the capitol rioters are terrorists, then so are the antifa rioters in the BLM rallies.

As far as I know, there are far more people arrested during the BLM Protest than the storm in the Capitol. And if you will weight it, people trespassing one of the most important places in the USA, and you only arrest fewer than the BLM protest. Hmmmmmm ???

Shouldn't the capitol be more secure than any place in the state, shouldn't it have the most concentration and priority of police and military in the country? so how the hell did they even enter the capitol.

Anyway, I don't tolerate the behaviors of some protesters that result in riots, but nonetheless, there is a far more peaceful protest that was done during the BLM protest. and not only in the USA but in other countries as well.

Of course, in most other countries, these insurgents would have no problems getting on a plane immediately after a failed coup attempt - because they would have been executed by now (unless they were lucky enough to get at least a show trial), and sending the bodies of executed criminals home for burial is standard procedure. I don't think they yet realise that the only reason they were able to walk into an airport at all is because America has such strange concepts as "due process" and "rights of the accused" including something called "presumption of innocence". They probably don't even realise how lucky they are that America doesn't even have the death penalty for sedition, so they'll get to continue whining about "muh freedomz" in Federal prison. There's just no pleasing some people. :-\

EDIT: Typo

Yep, the Pro-Trump insurgents are idiots. Yes, I said insurgents as many who got inside had a definite agenda and it was not 'protest'. Rioters at least have the slim excuse of saying 'I just got carried away by the moment and mood/energy of the crowd'.

Several people are recorded showing them carrying bundles of tac-loop handcuffs - so what, they were planning on taking Congressional members hostage until their demands were met? Just how would that fit with the idea of a protest? Ans: It doesn't.

They deserve the full weight of the Law thrown at them. Being put onto a no-fly list should be the least of their worries.

I'm shocked that they're trying to use communist public transport instead of driving their F-150s.

The game is to try to get you guys (this thread notably dominated be one wing politically) to kill 'them' and 'them' to kill 'you'.  The resources will be left as spoils of war, and some portion will go to whoever is sent in to manage what fragments of what herds survive.

I'm predicting success in this effort and a blood bath, and I want to thank you guys for reminding me what truly disgusting people a lot of you are so I won't feel quite as bad as I might otherwise.  Hell, I might even lend some support to one side if it looks like they might succeed and if it looks like their success might make it more practical for me to go home to get some of my shit when the smoke clears.

On one of the videos a woman is saying she has minors with her.  People are saying law enforcement is wrong to separate her from the minors.

Why can't she leave them in the same place they were when she tried to coup?

Because in her mind she sees nothing wrong with gleefully crossing the line between protest and criminal actions. Of course the rainbow-farting Unicorns that live in her world also said it was ok to blindly follow her Supreme Leader...

Avicii is cute though.   There is now leaked video footage of her and one of her minors from the future. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcrbM1l_BoI)  :/

they thought they were immune to consequence 'cos Trump/Giuliana ordered them'
yep if only they thought about themselves and their own lives instead of TV influencers...

when someone tells you to do something. dont think about how happy it will make them. dont think they will guarantee a reward for your loyalty. think about if that action will harm you. and if so is there an employment contract or anything in contract/law that will help/defend you if the worse happens to you.

its funny how within 12 hours of his orders trump denied any association with his fangirls he told to walk to the capital building.
.. so if anyone is still fangirling trump. please seek therapy

US Capitol Stormers Are Now On No-Fly List And Crying At Airports


Watch as BLM and Antifa storm the airports, hijack the planes while they're still on the ground, and fly to D.C. anyway.


8)

I don't know what you're talking about, but the only thing that was in this thread, is to see and laugh on how dumb the people to think they can just walk away freely after storming one of the most important places in the states. And that's it  :D

You and Coleman (alone) where what caused me to insert "a lot of" as I recall.  Seems like you two maintained the ability and willingness to at least acknowledge some of nuances of the situation from a somewhat higher altitude.  Seems like you two might basically agree with an old-school stoning for an adulterer back in the day, but wouldn't probably be grinning and shouting and jostling through the crowd with your rocks in hand.

I think the only time that a mob takeover is acceptable is when your country is being run by a police and fascist state. I think that it is a good move that they are on the no fly list because they should know that there will be a consequences to their actions. I believe that they also should get fired for their jobs to further cripple them, that is the only way to kill radical fascist, cripple their livelihood a let them become homeless.

There are interesting parallels here. Trump is (to an extent) distancing himself from the actions of the mob that he incited, just as Republican representatives are starting to come out against Trump and in favour of impeachment. The whole thing is starting to fall apart. I'm sure that 'Trumpism' will continue to exist and thrive, but for the man himself it looks increasingly like he will be abandoned by his own party.

his 'legacy' wil die quick after next week. trumpism wont be a thing in politics
yes the true trumpettes will continue affiliating themselves with his social media(whts left) but thats just kardashianism. and has nothing to do with politics. its just fangirls

trumpism in politics ends next week.

Although 'Trumpism' started to shrivel well before his inauguration, it was proven dead and putrid when Trump ordered the bombing of Syria after an obviously phony 'chemical attack.'  It would have been proven mid way through the 2016 elections if there really were a 'two-party system' with results that were not well managed.

I'm a little bit sorry for the idiots that the Talmudics gas-lighted along all the way to q-tard-landia, but not much more sorry than I am for their counterparts on the phony Left.  I am surprised at how many of the latter populate this forum.  More than I would expect.  I do have to wonder how many of you guys might be on a payroll of some sort.  I know that social media 'influencers' have had salaries and specialized software for doing their thing more efficiently since a good deal of development work along these lines back in the mid 2000's (due to various hacks as well as just being decent at analysis.)  It does seem possible that this forum rose to a level of importance to justify some input, but that's mostly a reflection of how Bitcoin itself could be disruptive to the Rothschild banking system...and lucrative to the people who work in and around it.

People are flocked sheep, people knew this was coming over the past 3 months.  If anyone thinks that this was just a spur of the moment idea or that the government wasn't involved in this - keep following the diabolical shepherd (and no I'm not talking about the current president or any future president - they are just pawns anyways). 

You speak something that looks so deep, yet so shallow. If you want to say something, say it straight-forward without using some nonsensical make-up shits. You made your statements something that needs to be deciphered, and when its done, its just a simple nonsense  :-[

You are more likely the kind of person who think everything is interconnected, you are the kind who overthinks everything.

Let's assume that this is just a propaganda made by someone behind the scene, someone like Rothschild if you may, Can we do anything about it? do we have any evidences? no, just a conspiracy and wild speculation.

I write stream-of-consciousness to much.  It's true.  Always happy to clarify a particular point if anyone cares, but in a general way most of my stuff is for the atheist's (and techie's) version of St. Peter to say the truth.  It's close to 100% honest though just FWIW.

Things seem more complex than they actually are after thinking about them much of the time.

'We' are trained to 're-set the clock' after every quantum result of an analysis.  This negates the ability to do pattern recognition which is basically a necessity in any reasonable analysis.  I don't think that this 'reset' propensity is an accident.  Indeed, it's necessary to make the 'it's a conspiracy theory' conditioning effective.  Break that habit (if you can) and entire worlds come into focus.

That is true I don't see any social media purge on antifa members going around or maybe I missed the memo
One type of Riot is Ok while the Other is not. Only certain people should be allowed to express their anger depending on their politics.
Well the civil war in the US will occur as long as the two party system exists it is fated to destroy itself only a matter of how and when.

I don’t think these intellectually challenged, brainwashed Trumpers who desecrated the Capitol, then
smiled and waved at the forever-on-the-intertoobz camera, actually realize what a giant heap of shit
they are in now. It’s called consequences. (I doubt they are aware of them, but they will be)
Getting put on a no fly list is the least of their worries.

LOL.

It’s funny cause these people really don’t even notice what they did is wrong. They truly think they’re in the right and everything they did was fine but were fine yelling and screaming about rioting during the BLM protests. Crazy world we live in.


Waiting for my check, though I’m not sure I’d call myself someone on the left, is that the reason for the hold up? LOL.

Onto the topic here, I assume these people are going to be on this temporarily — nothing permanent until investigations are concluded and these people are found to be nothing more then just a bunch of crazies who believe tons of conspiracy theories and this particular one went all the away to raiding the Capitol.

You can remove the "intellectually challenged" in that statement, as this is simple logic, and even an 8 yrs old can understand that these kinds of acts have severe consequences that must be done no matter what.

"AMERICA'S BIGGEST PROBLEM IS TOO MUCH FREEDOM" -Bikram Choudhury

I have not looked into things almost at all (which was perfectly sufficient to call with high probability that what of the 'break in' that made it onto the TeeVee was a stage managed and scripted psy-op) but my expectation is that a vast majority of the people on-the-grounds outside were pretty normal folks who wanted a fair vote count and had a lot of very valid reasons to believe that they didn't get one.

EVERYTHING from the censorship to the media fakery to the intimidation looks very purposely designed to push one side into a revolutionary stance.  If I was in the U.S. and gave two fucks about Trump (and didn't see that this was all a set-up) I would be oiling up my 5.56 right now and getting ready for the inevitable.  It's only a matter of time before the sniping starts, and if Americans won't do it than Zionist paid mercenaries will to get things rolling.

this is just sad. these people are so delusional about their belief that they ready to ruin their lives for someone who doesn't really care about them. did they think that trump would help them get away from consequences or did they think that this will be just let go since there are a lot of them that did it?

that is what you call hypocrites and self-righteous.

Expectations can be very deceiving, and can also be far from reality. You are not a seer nor a prophet to be able to expect everything according to your own premonition and knowledge. If you will think that every video, news, and articles, written are not within the zone of your expectation to be false, then you will believe that all those sources are unreliable and fake. That's just about how self-righteous you are.

They have already done recounting and many counter-protest against the election in a proper way, yet they can't accept the fact that Trump losses. And if you think that it is justifiable to storm a significant place just because of petty reasons initiated by the president itself, then you are not that far from being the kind of person this thread talks about

I mean, Trump really can’t pardon them. He COULD legally do so, but if he was to do so he would be impeached and convicted on the spot. So there’s no way to support this and help these people.

I don’t think that Trump wanted his people to storm the Capitol, he really just wanted to put as much pressure on Republicans in congress as possible and all of this got out of hand very quickly. Storming the Capitol has really screwed him, and was the reason for him to lose Twitter (and every other avenue where he can directly speak to his tens of millions of supporters)

Time will tell.  Just like it did with Bitcoin when I was prognosticating from highly minority quarters almost a decade ago now.

I should correct my statement about sighting in my 5.56 IF I gave a shit about Trump or the q-tards.  I don't, but I would be making ready anyway.

Actually, I'd probably be 'losing' various of my weapons in nice little kit form complete with ammo so they might be useful to 'future generations' and contribute to a positive outcome for what might remain of the nation.  Of course I would dutifully report the losses to the proper authorities.  It doesn't take a seer to figure out what the Dems are going to do with the 2nd.  Nor what the reaction could be.  Unhappily the tiny number of Americans left are horribly outgunned from a technical perspective and will die like flies if they operate at their anticipated level of sophistication.

Firearms are of very limited usefulness in confrontational combat in 2021.  What they are good for is community building (offering self-defence against comparably equipped threats on a personal level.)  That is the main reason why people who have one vision for social order are so threatened by the 2nd.  They simply don't want an alternative to their ideas to be viable.

Trump is already subjected for impeachment, so there's no need for any other reason for him to be impeached.

Though, pardon is not really an option at this point, as there is no case yet being heard as of the moment as this incident is "Under Investigation".

And by the second statement, he initiated it by saying that "we will storm the capitol", and his "fans" didn't misunderstand it as it is clear as a sun in a clear day. We can say that he didn't think of it as what he meant cause we are now pitying him for what's happening.

I hope they are stupid enough to actually re-impeach and humiliate him.  Seems like there might be a fleeting bit of hope that he would have enough pride to tell 'the people' what it is REALLY all about.  He's a stooge, but he's been around since the Roy Cohen days and he surely knows a lot about what bodies are buried where.

Trump is more than impeachable and in my opinion is actually treasonous enough to be put in front of a firing squad.  The chances of him being held to account for any of his actual crimes and malfeasance by anyone in American politics today are zilch though.  They could still cook up some other half true baloney to annoy the guy with though, and again, it would be great if they do.  It could only have a positive outcome.

https://www.knowmorenews.org/kmn-videos/jacobs-hands-felt-hairy-just-like-esaus-massive-purges-amp-dark-days-ahead-know-more-news (https://www.knowmorenews.org/kmn-videos/jacobs-hands-felt-hairy-just-like-esaus-massive-purges-amp-dark-days-ahead-know-more-news)

Well, it is USA we are talking about, so death penalty really isn't an option for their acts. Because they do heavenly believe in Freedom, and Chances for someone to flip coins. And in accordance with the laws, Trump is needed to be impeached first before they can file law cases against him. Its just a matter of time

If anyone wants to keep up with the list of people who have been charged / arrested:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/investigations-regarding-violence-capitol

Here is my favorite Statement of Facts so far.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/page/file/1353451/download
I love page 7 paragraph #19 "Hello nice FBI lady"

Kind of feel sorry for her, you know Special Agent Land is no longer called Agent Land, or even by her 1st name around the office.
Thanks to all her coworkers she now has a coffee mug, t-shirt, name plate on her desk, and a bunch of business cards that all have "Nice FBI Lady" on them.
Because, no matter where you work, what you do, who you work for, coworkers are going to do that.

-Dave

lol

https://i.gyazo.com/da2927fc9f417505cb7df5e59a9384cd.png

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/press-release/file/1353231/download (page 4)

Anyone know if the guy with the face paint and horns is on that list?

Yes, look for CHANSLEY, Jacob Anthony

-Dave

Bingo.

Trump should've trained his cult not to rat him out to the deep state:

That's actually sweet, yet I think the intention is to tease her in a good way. Where it shows that the workplace she working with is a good and a healthy environment.

But LYONS, the one who call SA Land "nice lady, really rat out everything tho. He gave the photos and videos willingly, and even described the situation that happened in the scene. Lyons do be really a good guy in my opinion, just manipulated by the group he is in with.

So I have been looking though the piles of documents posted on the DoJ site against the (innocent until proven guilty) rioters / terrorists / whatever you want to call them.
Found this one:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/page/file/1355921/download
If you want to skip to the good part...just go to page 7 paragraph 17 and keep reading....the good part is page 8...with a map....

I think I pulled a muscle laughing at this idiot.
That takes a special kind of stupid.

-Dave

what are them 'boys' supposed to be 'proud' of? their ankle bracelet? their criminal record?
seems to me these boys are not the type of 'men that are creating the modern world'

Chansley is definitely getting some high fives from the other prisoners when they find out he's this guy:
https://i.gyazo.com/b69734b686bd1dd51f20a3eb4c5d3271.png

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/capitol-rioter-plotted-sell-stolen-pelosi-laptop-russian-intelligence-n1254583


(emphasis mine)

Supporters of the stable genius traitor are pulling out all the stops to make him el presidente for life... I'm just not exactly sure how they thought Putin would help them.

Wasn’t the laptop just a scheduling laptop in the end? Probably wouldn’t have done much for Putin / Russian intelligence anyway.

All of this does point out a pretty large security issue in the capitol — as these people could’ve just went into congresspeople of the intelligence committees offices and stolen classified documents - or at least notes about these — and sent them over to other countries. Pretty easy way for other countries to use this as a way to attack America would’ve been to just insert their own people into the rioting.

Putin has years of experience with the subject, could give Trump some tips on how to be a despot.

"William's ex, who was described in Special Agent Jonathan Lund's charging document as W1 (witness one), called the FBI and said she "intended to send the computer device to a friend in Russia, who then planned to sell the device to SVR, Russia's foreign intelligence service."

Remember folks -- if you plan to steal the speaker's laptop, don't tell your ex because he might rat you out to the feds.

Imagine this woman thinking that the intel community would allow an octogenarian politician to store anything of value on a device that she probably couldn't figure out how to check her email on.

That's Insurrection Daria.
https://i.gyazo.com/fc9d41491e4e70f1a9dc72ae4a016c3f.png
https://i.gyazo.com/2e0efc3188ef4044ea091286c506d05c.png

Most, if not all of these "special kind of stupid" morons folk had optional pocket tracking systems (aka smartphones).
Complete with forever-on-the-intertoobz hi def cameras.
And they opted in, either knowingly or, more likely, unknowingly.
Sure makes law enforcements job a hell of a lot easier at collecting evidence. Added bonus....most of them went mask less.

Like this guy here:

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/texas/article/FBI-Texas-man-threatened-to-shoot-family-if-they-15880036.php

Has a camera to document his crime:


Gets on news footage:


Threatens his kids for his own stupidity:

And we wonder how Trump got so many votes... its because these people can still breed.

Some of these people were even dumb enough to record the situation. Cause the correct thing to do while you're committing a federal crime is to record it and livestream it online so there is an abundance of evidence supporting the fact that you actually did commit the crime...

Sigh, boomers told the next couple generations to not share too much online. How the tables have turned on them.



Mouth breathers. Mouth breathers everywhere.

So another one made the local news today.
Someone got fired because....wait for it....he did not show up to work because he was in jail...

He is now suing the people he worked for because they fired him for political reasons.
The fact that did not show up to work for a week (week+?)  trying to make bail has nothing to do with it.
And, as far as I know political views are not a protected class anyway in most places.

-Dave

His lawyer should argue that it's a cult and therefore religious.

Just to clarify, what’s the normal circumstances a person will be deemed deny into airport?

As long as you have a ticket, valid ID, no bombs or drugs in your bags and you're not on the no fly list, you shouldn't have a problem.

And apparently if you have a long beard the TSA will move you into the special line and grab your nuts.  ::)

Jokes aside the TSA is a flaming dumpster fire with nearly a 90% failure rate- https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/12/20/whistleblower-says-tsa-is-trading-speed-for-security/

I'm surprised they were so focused on the Trump supporters considering they have just a tad bit of work to do in regards to tightening up their security protocol.

These were the people that literally stormed the Capital during a joint session of congress the day before.  Killed a cop, attacked journalists, broke into and stole from Congress members offices and desks on the floor, chanted 'hang Mike Pence', brought a noose, built a gallows, etc...

Pfft, amateur numbers. Try 5 dead cops by a BLM radical in 2016 in the span of an hour or over 30 dead during summer BLM riots. But don't worry, that was legitimized by democrats so terrorism only works one way. I'm not saying the rioters didn't deserve it. The TSA is useless posturing. If you told me what the chance was of a capitol rioter blowing up a plane was, anything other than zero would be shocking. TSA doesn't exist to protect anyone, just as a deterrent. Probably put them on a no fly-list so they wouldn't flee perhaps. Or, they could be a security risk. Who knows, that wasn't my main point.

It was legitimized by the literally millions of peaceful protesters around the world.  Trying to lump the 95% of BLM protests that had no violence at all with the 5% that did (https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/demonstrations-political-violence-in-america-new-data-for-summer-2020/) is as irrational as trying to say that Trump rallies from 2016-2020 were all about violence, hanging Mike Pence and overthrowing the government.  So why do you keep doing it?

I’m sure being barred from flying doesn’t stop people from going abroad, time to make a drone and fly without an airport?

I'd be more inclined to pay off a captain and stow away on a barge headed somewhere off-continent.

Because it's a terrible take to assign arbitrary percentages to an extremist movement that broke out into riots in every major city. I've read that data before and immediately assumed it was a left wing think tank. Their methodology is hardly objective. The capitol hill riot was a singular event, BLM riots went on for months unchecked and then legitimized by democratic politicians lmao. As if it could not get worse.

100k Trump supporters at Washington DC for his rally, 2k begin to riot, maybe 1k, perhaps less, entered the building. So that's a 2% rate of violence? Or is it 1%?

Democratic politicians openly refused to condemn their rabid base from rioting in the streets because it was inconvenient for them politically. Can't agree with Trump, even when it comes to rioting and looting, apparently. It was cowardly of them, and you should admit it if you're going to criticize Trump in the same breath. You don't get to be upset at the capitol riots without recognizing that the BLM riots were also abhorrent which ended up in 100x the damage, 6-7x the number of lives lost, and some multiple of the amount of participants involved

When you tell the thousands of police officers that went through the violence, the billions of damages to small businesses, the families of those who had lost someone, like David Dorn who was killed by a looter and no one gives a fuck about, that the BLM riots were just 5% violent, I'll be sure to tell the leftists that the capitol riot was only 2% violent.

And just on a side note on  link you posted - I read 2 pages of it and it is already littered with falsehoods. It's like they allowed high school kids to do a social science project.

It claimed Ahmaud Arbery was just out jogging when he was shot. That's false. He was trying to rob a house and was running away when police were called. It also claimed Breonna Taylor was killed after police executed a warrant on the wrong house. Completely false - the warrant had Taylor's name and SSN on it.

Are you trying to tell me I need to take these people seriously? C'mon now.

They aren't arbitrary percentages.  The ACLED is transparent in their methodology and explain it in excruciating detail. https://acleddata.com/acleddatanew/wp-content/uploads/dlm_uploads/2020/10/ACLED_USAMethodology_2020.pdf

Every different type of event, how they code it, what the definition of 'violence' is, what makes something an 'protest', 'counter protest' or 'riot' or 'demonstration', how the data is collected, what tools they use, all of the raw data itself - all of it is public. 

They aren't a left wing think tank.  It's basically a non profit project that monitors civil rest globally mostly tracking stuff like potential coups in the middle of Africa.  They're transparent about where their funding comes from and what they do, it's very easy to find.


The violent protests resulted in thousands of arrests.  The movement was legitimized by millions of people around the world supporting it. 

Anyway, since the dozens of protests I claim to have witnessed with my own eyes and the data collected by ACLED from 10,000+ protests over the summer are not credible enough for you - what is your credible source that has demonstrated to you that I am wrong when I say "the vast majority of BLM protests had zero violence". 

You don't have one, do you?  I've looked, genuinely tried to disprove myself, but It's just outrage media that's politically convenient for those who make pwning the libs a priority to believe.  There's definitely violence, and it's a serious issue, but it's painfully obvious that by far, the vast majority of BLM protests have been peaceful - as in not a single punch, broken window, nothing.

Answer me this -- if someone can be so incompetent to not even do the most basic research into two high profile killings (The ACLED, that is), why in the world would I take anything they have to say seriously? They can regurgitate two falsehoods without even reading in two pages about the Ahmaud Arbery shooting where they falsely claim he was just out for a jog, and the Breonna Taylor shooting where they falsely claim the police had executed the wrong search warrant.


I never said the majority of BLM protests were not peaceful. The overall movement is extreme, and the riots that went on for months, along with 35+ dead, along with 1-2 billion dollars worth of damage, was 100% on BLM and constitute left wing violence. But, for some reason, people seem to want to excuse BLM riots while also condemning the capitol riots because this is how politics goes, you see. It would be too reasonable for someone to believe that the capitol riots were terrible, and the BLM riots were terrible.

The problem is democrats legitimized BLM riots and chose to do nothing about it. In fact, they double downed on it -- AOC saying "the point of protests is to make people uncomfortable" or Nancy Pelosi calling federal DHS agents who were ordered to protect a federal building from antifa/BLM rioters "stormtroopers", ordering that they stop protecting the federal building. And here's a beauty - Kamala Harris posting a bail out fund for rioters, looters, and arsonists to be bailed out.

This isn't about pwning the libs, this is me truly in good faith trying to understand this insanity of normalizing the BLM riots as if they were all fine and dandy. I truly don't think you remember how much violence went on during those riots. There's video clips of some looter getting his guts smeared across the pavement as he gets stuck in the wheel well of a FedEx truck. Then there's also video clips of police officers getting mobbed by entire groups 1v10. All for what? A fentanyl junkie who's "alleged" killers will walk free in a few months?

You should take them seriously because they clearly are competent and did their research.  I'm not sure why you are saying otherwise.

They use citations for everything.  There's probably 100 citations in the introduction alone.  Media reports, police reports, press releases, literally anything that they aren't the source for (like their data) has a citation.  This is literally what it looks like when something is well sourced.


They said Ahmaud Arbery was out jogging, not that he was 'just out for a jog' (it's not the same thing) citing a NY Times article along with the police report and letter from the Georgia DA.

They also said that the shooters suspected him of breaking into homes.


They cited the Louisville Government press release saying that it wasn't the wrong home.

https://i.snipboard.io/H26BrS.jpg


Why do you keep trying this?




The semantics arguments are so tedious.  You didn't literally say that but you have been implying it over and over.

You don't want to answer because you don't have a good answer.

They are competent, why exactly?


No, they are exactly the same thing. Out for a jog, out jogging, literally synonymous. He was a fleeing criminal, not out jogging. The initial reports were that he was lynched while out for a jog which obviously turned out not to be true so they're reporting the initial info that was wrong. It's like saying school shooter is just going to class, perhaps an evading felon in a police chase is just going for a drive. He wasn't out jogging, he was fleeing after he was caught trespassing and probably stealing.



From your own report that you cited, this is the exact quote:


This is completely 100% false. She was not sleeping, and it was not the wrong home. Taylor's name was on the warrant. Can you please explain to me why you're not getting this? It's like you're refusing to acknowledge they got the facts wrong. It doesn't matter what they cite -- their assertion is wrong.



I've noticed that you keep ignoring AOC's tweet on "peaceful" protests or that Nancy Pelosi sided with antifa/BLM rioters by calling DHS officers "stormtroopers "for the crime of guarding a federal court house, perhaps no good answer on that?

But set that aside - my argument is this: Democratic politicians and disingenuous liberals completely ignored months of rioting by BLM over a fentanyl junkie that would have died anyways because they were too woke for their own good. Every republican is firm on condemning the capitol riots. Trump condemned it, Ted Cruz condemned it, and not a single elected US Republican (to my knowledge at least) has came out and endorsed those riots. Democrats, on the other hand, would rather play this "mostly" peaceful semantics game to white wash the months of riots, lootings, burning of apartment buildings, assaults of police officer, ect. Instead of recognizing that violence is bad regardless of what the ends are, they continue to normalize it while in the same breath accusing Trump of inciting the capitol riots. Meanwhile, you had Kamala Harris posting a link to the Minnesota freedom fund which was designed to bail out rioters that were charged on riot related offenses. Maybe I'm not getting this, but you explain to me how this is reasonable because I'm all ears.

My argument is basically -- be consistent, like normal people, and be outraged when you see violence regardless of what the cause is. The capitol riots were terrible and it's a bad look for conservatives when a bunch of hillbillies with diabetes storm the capitol. ALSO, it is terrible when BLM riots burn cities for months with democratic politicians turning the blind eye or actively encourage them. Fair enough?

Quick note on Trump and the riots - I think Trump is responsible for raising the temperature and so were Republicans who tried to contest the election results in the house/senate. Could you make the argument that had they not done this, the capitol riots wouldn't have happened? Absolutely -- I would probably agree. But, as soon as the violence struck, Republicans were all pretty much on board that this was terrible and that everyone involved should get the book thrown at them. So why do dems feel the need to be so trepidatious when it comes to BLM rioting? Well, probably has to do with the wokeness that's laced inside the modern democratic platform. Just a guess.  

Oh if we’re turning this into a discussion about the TSA, they’re an absolutely horribly inefficient organization that can’t even do their own job correctly.

I think that the TSA is a jobs program for the tons of people that live near the airports. It ensures that these people are put to work, and aren’t a strain on the welfare system.

But no one cares about fixing that stuff anymore. There’s no reason to even do that when nothing matters and tons of money is continuously injected by both Congress and the Fed.

We've already debated the details of the George Flloyd shooting, no need to go through this all over again.

All I'm trying to say is that it seems like your perception of BLM protests is way off from reality.  Nothing to do with whether or not you agree with the movement, or what politicians have  said about it, or even the specific police shootings.

As I've said before - I know many people who have participated, I've witnessed many of them myself, and what you describe only matches what I see on the media - but not in real life.  Peaceful protests don't make for good ratings or clicks.
Yes, there are crazy, radical, violent people - but there are tons more normal people that are protesting because they genuinely believe they are doing good.  The violence pisses them off a lot more than you think.

And to make sure I'm not falling victim to my own bias or luck, I put genuine effort into trying to change my own views.  My best sources are that study you read the beginning of the introduction to and my personal experiences.  You won't read the data because of the introduction and you there's no reason for you to take my word - that's fine, but I think if you were to decide and try and disprove yourself it won't be too difficult.