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Title: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: devil2man on January 19, 2021, 10:18:18 AM
I do not know if you have heard but it seems that from 8 February whatsapp will change its privacy policy for users outside Europe by crossing whatsapp data with those of facebook perhaps for better advertising profiling, may it be of interest to users? yes why? if you are on a working whatsapp group, other users will be able to go back to your facebook profile


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: Renampun on January 19, 2021, 11:14:17 AM
WA made a nice change by listening to the user reaction...
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/15/tech/whatsapp-privacy-policy-delay/index.html the good news, WhatsApp has delayed the policy, they're afraid of losing even more users and I think that's great 'lol'


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: jrrsparkles on January 19, 2021, 11:18:20 AM
WA made a nice change by listening to the user reaction...
They just delayed but didn't want to change anything in their privacy policy. People are moving towards more secured messaging platform like Signal for the past few weeks that is the only reason Facebook made this decision to delay it but they said they will exlain the people about the policy changes and will implement it in the right time.


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: smooki3 on January 19, 2021, 11:27:38 AM
Today I watched one guy in Facebook and he explain pretty good the situation with Whatsapp and to be honest i will stop using it. They saw what is happening with the users and this is why they are delaying the terms, but for sure they will lose many more users.


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: bitterguy28 on January 19, 2021, 12:11:30 PM
I do not know if you have heard but it seems that from 8 February whatsapp will change its privacy policy for users outside Europe by crossing whatsapp data with those of facebook perhaps for better advertising profiling, may it be of interest to users? yes why? if you are on a working whatsapp group, other users will be able to go back to your facebook profile
Then the Privacy will not be completely there? because other users can check your Facebook account in which i believe that Both site must have their own users choice to let the extension happens or searchable or not.

Good thing that is topped using whatsapp back in 2018 and until now has not been visiting the site that long.


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: boyptc on January 19, 2021, 12:41:23 PM
Never had any chance of using it. I don't know what current issue it has but it has never been the same if it's about the privacy of the users. But it's just the same as other app that's violating the privacy of their users. Just like the popular words and knowledge about it being the product and usage for free.

Yeah, its users are the products.


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: DickOrg on January 19, 2021, 12:58:17 PM
I do not know if you have heard but it seems that from 8 February whatsapp will change its privacy policy for users outside Europe by crossing whatsapp data with those of facebook perhaps for better advertising profiling, may it be of interest to users? yes why? if you are on a working whatsapp group, other users will be able to go back to your facebook profile
I will delete it immediately just in case. I wondered why 2 friends stop sending me massages there and told me not to send them anything in Whatsapp. After this comment will read a little more about it to check what is the situation.   


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: datamining on January 19, 2021, 01:15:33 PM
deleted whatzApp & facebook.
this was long overdue.
change your messenger and delete your facebook.
you will feel like newborn without that sugar mountain zuckerberg.


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: jrrsparkles on January 19, 2021, 01:26:21 PM
deleted whatzApp & facebook.
this was long overdue.
change your messenger and delete your facebook.
you will feel like newborn without that sugar mountain zuckerberg.
Nothing is going to change as long as you/we are using Google. :)

If we want privacy then we should boycott all the google services and anything which is available for free!

Possible meh? ::)


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: ethereumhunter on January 19, 2021, 01:29:47 PM
I am sure users will be wise to act, and they are smart to choose what messenger they will use. If they do not agree with the policy, they will move to the other platform and not use Whatsapp. They can delay the policy but until when? People will soon know about the truth, and if the policy is not good for them, they will move to the other platforms.


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: Terrell on January 19, 2021, 04:07:06 PM
Conversations in end-to-end encrypted chats are clearly labeled with a gold message; these messages and calls stay between you, and no one else can read or listen to its content, not even WhatsApp.


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: datamining on January 19, 2021, 05:23:38 PM

Nothing is going to change as long as you/we are using Google. :)

If we want privacy then we should boycott all the google services and anything which is available for free!

Possible meh? ::)

Absolutely!
In times of bid data nothing is really free.
The most difficult is the withdrawal from the google search engine....
tried already metager & DuckDuckGo.

Any other suggestions for "safe" search engines?


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: MelissaVorsteiner on January 19, 2021, 06:48:28 PM
Thankfully never had a chance using WA. I've been using Telegram for years now and haven't had any issues with it. Or privacy concerns for that matter.


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: BevNation on January 19, 2021, 07:44:53 PM
I can't say much about this but, anything or app that regards not a person or users privacy is not worth it. The problem might be a long time addiction that makes people stick with it but should another of its kind come, it would easily take it's place.


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: SOCAR on January 19, 2021, 08:34:24 PM
This is definitely alarming. It won't be very comfortable but I think I'm switching to telegram messenger, I think it's one of the nicest messengers at the moment


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: CryptoMargo on January 19, 2021, 10:58:57 PM
Maybe it will be more convenient to use after these updates, in any case, we can't influence it.


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: Vageta420 on January 19, 2021, 11:20:53 PM
On the one hand it's scary story about corporations and hunger for user data. On the other hand, unless you use only encrypted services and are shook every time there is a data leak, most likely Facebook knows most stuff about you anyway.


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: Call me Fada on January 19, 2021, 11:39:17 PM
I got so angry seeing what Mark is about to do, WhatsApp has been the only app I prefer because of its privacy settings, now it's fucked up...I need to switch immediately to signal, after all Elon Musk tweeted "Use Signal" and signal has had massive downloads ever since, I have downloaded too😎😊


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: jrrsparkles on January 20, 2021, 06:17:06 AM
I got so angry seeing what Mark is about to do, WhatsApp has been the only app I prefer because of its privacy settings, now it's fucked up...I need to switch immediately to signal, after all Elon Musk tweeted "Use Signal" and signal has had massive downloads ever since, I have downloaded too😎😊
FYI, the Signal app created by the creator of whatsapp itself after finding that Facebook is not using their former app as they sold it. Well most people still using WhatsApp because all other contacts are yet to download Signal app.


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: mohammed7777 on January 20, 2021, 07:05:04 AM
After the whatsapp Chang the privcy in  2021.
WhatsApp delays updated privacy policy after confusing users.WhatsApp had asked users to agree to the new policy by Feb. 8, but has pushed that deadline to May 15 while it further explains the changes.


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: Marcus69Nio on January 20, 2021, 07:15:17 AM
I think it's a pretty desperate step by WhatsApp. There are a lot of competitors with well-known names and reliable history. I haven't been using much this messenger earlier but recently I tried Telegram and really liked it. What I want to say that these privacy changes aren't bad or they are unnecessary but it can make Whatsapp lose a big part of users which is sad.


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: ethereumhunter on January 20, 2021, 07:31:49 AM
After the whatsapp Chang the privcy in  2021.
WhatsApp delays updated privacy policy after confusing users.WhatsApp had asked users to agree to the new policy by Feb. 8, but has pushed that deadline to May 15 while it further explains the changes.

I wonder what they change from the privacy policy. If they listen to their users, I hope they will not make it hard for their users. Otherwise, their use will leave WhatsApp and use other platforms. Telegram will be the next platforms that their user will use because Telegram does not have a strict requirement. Besides that, a newcomer called Signals uses this time to invite the WhatApps users to try their platforms.


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: lisarose9 on January 20, 2021, 09:13:20 AM
I guess, the concern about the WhatsApp and its privacy stems from very poor track record of its parent company, Facebook. Facebook has acted very poorly when it comes to proper management of user data. According to the article by eduhelphub (https://eduhelphub.com/) Cambridge Analytica scandal is one big example, along with plenty of security breaches and preferential treatments of big shot advertisers. So, the skepticism of the users is only natural. Moreover, one can't help but wonder, if Facebook can do all of those unethical stuff, while pretending to maintain user privacy, what will it do, now that it has declared that user data from WhatsApp will be used in the Facebook platform.  :-\ :-X  


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: peter0425 on January 20, 2021, 10:28:17 AM
I do not know if you have heard but it seems that from 8 February whatsapp will change its privacy policy for users outside Europe by crossing whatsapp data with those of facebook perhaps for better advertising profiling, may it be of interest to users? yes why? if you are on a working whatsapp group, other users will be able to go back to your facebook profile
I never let any apps that i use to be connected in another apps or social media platform together because for me my privacy in one apps will be remain as is and my privacy in another will do same .

i just don't know what Whatsapp plan for this , or they wanted to adopt like what Instagram or other platform do these days?


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: devil2man on January 20, 2021, 11:41:42 AM
I don't know what degree of security and privacy signal has but maybe there is an absolutely safe alternative that is based on peer to peer and the tor network you can take a look here https://briarproject.org/


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: boyptc on January 21, 2021, 08:32:24 PM
I just downloaded Whatsapp and did an analysis on it. It's required to access your contacts, your media, your gallery, your documents, your camera and microphone.

That's a lot of permits you have to agree before using them. Well, I don't like them, they are tricky, I can't even find my contact despite I've added it already.

I uninstalled them rightaway.


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: jrrsparkles on January 21, 2021, 08:34:38 PM
I just downloaded Whatsapp and did an analysis on it. It's required to access your contacts, your media, your gallery, your documents, your camera and microphone.

That's a lot of permits you have to agree before using them. Well, I don't like them, they are tricky, I can't even find my contact despite I've added it already.

I uninstalled them rightaway.
Its because whatsapp allows you to text, call, video call, sending files and you missed the location access because you can even send your location to your contact using it. Its weird that you don't have whatsapp before, atleast tried once! :D


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: boyptc on January 21, 2021, 10:09:51 PM
I just downloaded Whatsapp and did an analysis on it. It's required to access your contacts, your media, your gallery, your documents, your camera and microphone.

That's a lot of permits you have to agree before using them. Well, I don't like them, they are tricky, I can't even find my contact despite I've added it already.

I uninstalled them rightaway.
Its because whatsapp allows you to text, call, video call, sending files and you missed the location access because you can even send your location to your contact using it. Its weird that you don't have whatsapp before, atleast tried once! :D
I just did it a while ago when my friend asked me to do so for some job reference. But I don't like it, it's hard to search for a contact. I did all necessary things that I've found on the web to make a contact appear but I can't find it.

LOL.

I can say that I'm adaptable to technology but I don't know why I can't search the contact that my friend wants to me to look at. I did searched and added it but not reflecting on the search box and that's why I've uninstalled it.


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: jrrsparkles on January 22, 2021, 06:49:35 AM

I just did it a while ago when my friend asked me to do so for some job reference. But I don't like it, it's hard to search for a contact. I did all necessary things that I've found on the web to make a contact appear but I can't find it.

LOL.

I can say that I'm adaptable to technology but I don't know why I can't search the contact that my friend wants to me to look at. I did searched and added it but not reflecting on the search box and that's why I've uninstalled it.
AFAIK, whatsapp is unlike telegram, you can't find the contacts using the username alone. You need to save your contact on your mobile first and then refresh the contact list on the app if you search it immediately after saving the contact. If the contact is not on the whatsapp you will see the invite button as well.


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: mich on January 22, 2021, 07:08:49 AM
I havent used the Whatsapp app in a long time probably since the time I deleted all Facebook associations from my computers and phone.  Just cant trust what they consider "privacy".

Been using the Signal app for secure messaging and the UI is very nice and no problems so far.  You can make free calls and video calls so no reason to use Whatspp at this point. 


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: boyptc on January 22, 2021, 11:05:24 AM

I just did it a while ago when my friend asked me to do so for some job reference. But I don't like it, it's hard to search for a contact. I did all necessary things that I've found on the web to make a contact appear but I can't find it.

LOL.

I can say that I'm adaptable to technology but I don't know why I can't search the contact that my friend wants to me to look at. I did searched and added it but not reflecting on the search box and that's why I've uninstalled it.
AFAIK, whatsapp is unlike telegram, you can't find the contacts using the username alone. You need to save your contact on your mobile first and then refresh the contact list on the app if you search it immediately after saving the contact. If the contact is not on the whatsapp you will see the invite button as well.
I did save the new contact but it's still not appearing. I've shown some proof to my friend and he's also puzzled why it seems to be like that on me.

I've added him and the other contact, he appeared on my whatsapp and not the other contact. It just pissed me off and totally forget about it.


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: jrrsparkles on January 22, 2021, 01:30:48 PM
I did save the new contact but it's still not appearing. I've shown some proof to my friend and he's also puzzled why it seems to be like that on me.

I've added him and the other contact, he appeared on my whatsapp and not the other contact. It just pissed me off and totally forget about it.
So, possibly there are two reasons why some contacts are not showing up.

1.When you saved a contact without the country code or right country code then you won't be able to see the contacts while searching.

2. If you saved with correct country code then you may need to do some changes in the whatsapp settings Settings==>Contacts==>Show all contacts, make sure the option is ticked.

Why do some contacts not show up in WhatsApp? (https://www.clove.co.uk/blogs/news/why-do-some-contacts-not-show-up-in-whatsapp#:~:text=To%20do%20this%2C%20go%20to,to%20'Show%20all%20contacts'.)


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: boyptc on January 22, 2021, 05:17:06 PM
I did save the new contact but it's still not appearing. I've shown some proof to my friend and he's also puzzled why it seems to be like that on me.

I've added him and the other contact, he appeared on my whatsapp and not the other contact. It just pissed me off and totally forget about it.
So, possibly there are two reasons why some contacts are not showing up.

1.When you saved a contact without the country code or right country code then you won't be able to see the contacts while searching.

2. If you saved with correct country code then you may need to do some changes in the whatsapp settings Settings==>Contacts==>Show all contacts, make sure the option is ticked.

Why do some contacts not show up in WhatsApp? (https://www.clove.co.uk/blogs/news/why-do-some-contacts-not-show-up-in-whatsapp#:~:text=To%20do%20this%2C%20go%20to,to%20'Show%20all%20contacts'.)
1. I did it with the right country code.

2. I did it as well but to no avail.

I don't know what's the reason for it but it's all good and I wouldn't use it anymore. Since it's just that my one friend that uses it and we'll still get to contact each other through another medium.


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: jrrsparkles on January 23, 2021, 11:18:28 AM
1. I did it with the right country code.

2. I did it as well but to no avail.

I don't know what's the reason for it but it's all good and I wouldn't use it anymore. Since it's just that my one friend that uses it and we'll still get to contact each other through another medium.
Then don't know what is the actual issue but by the way you are giving importance to your privacy is a good thing. If you are using any privacy social media on the google chrome or Android then it also voids the privacy.


Title: Re: Whatsapp and privacy
Post by: SOCAR on January 23, 2021, 11:54:59 AM
Yes, Facebook is expanding its expansion into the free world more and more  :(