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Title: Mining on Windows 10 and possibly fixing lower than expected hashrate
Post by: bobben2 on January 23, 2021, 10:01:59 AM
We already know the bloatware called Windows 10 can throw sand into your mining operation.  
Recently, I discovered a very undesirable thing about Windows. By default it will steal as much as 85% of your network bandwidth, to upload to M$oft statistics about your network traffic.   I discovered that this impacts hashrate at the poolside as well.  
Look at the image at https://imgur.com/a/DZyvygi
https://imgur.com/a/DZyvygi
These are all Windows 10 rigs mining Monero.
The first figure shows one rig, rigasus97a where Windows is stealing 85% of the network bandwidth of that rig, whereas all the others have this "feature" turned off.
The lower figure shows the reported hashrate after I fixed it on the rigasus97a rig.  See the difference in the graph?
You will no doubt want to fix this on your Win10 rigs.  Luckily, there is a Youtube video by Chris Titus on how to turn the above bandwidth stealing off.  Check out   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u1miYJmJ_4&t
Would be interesting to see if others have the same experience.


Title: Re: Mining on Windows 10 and possibly fixing lower than expected hashrate
Post by: jessyj48 on January 23, 2021, 02:35:26 PM
Hmm, it sounds like I'm hearing this for the first time but it's true, anyways I never like mining on windows OS for few reasons and as per hashrate issue mining on Linux OS works better and also we have hive OS and other mining OS now so I don't need windows OS, it's too buggy


Title: Re: Mining on Windows 10 and possibly fixing lower than expected hashrate
Post by: sxemini on January 23, 2021, 07:47:52 PM
Hmm, it sounds like I'm hearing this for the first time but it's true, anyways I never like mining on windows OS for few reasons and as per hashrate issue mining on Linux OS works better and also we have hive OS and other mining OS now so I don't need windows OS, it's too buggy

To buggy for you. Please don't always generalize windows 10, if good guided people use windows, then there is no difference between windows and linux, but windows is user friendly, because most people can handle it.

Windows runs for month without restart or problems, same on linux. I need 5minutes to setup a new windows rig and i need 5minutes to setup a new linux rig


Title: Re: Mining on Windows 10 and possibly fixing lower than expected hashrate
Post by: miner29 on January 23, 2021, 07:59:23 PM
Hmm, it sounds like I'm hearing this for the first time but it's true, anyways I never like mining on windows OS for few reasons and as per hashrate issue mining on Linux OS works better and also we have hive OS and other mining OS now so I don't need windows OS, it's too buggy

To buggy for you. Please don't always generalize windows 10, if good guided people use windows, then there is no difference between windows and linux, but windows is user friendly, because most people can handle it.

Windows runs for month without restart or problems, same on linux. I need 5minutes to setup a new windows rig and i need 5minutes to setup a new linux rig

Windows forced updates ruins anything good about windows for miners.  Plus the TOS for Windows makes it a no go for me. 


Title: Re: Mining on Windows 10 and possibly fixing lower than expected hashrate
Post by: bobben2 on January 24, 2021, 03:51:39 PM
Hmm, it sounds like I'm hearing this for the first time but it's true, anyways I never like mining on windows OS for few reasons and as per hashrate issue mining on Linux OS works better and also we have hive OS and other mining OS now so I don't need windows OS, it's too buggy

To buggy for you. Please don't always generalize windows 10, if good guided people use windows, then there is no difference between windows and linux, but windows is user friendly, because most people can handle it.

Windows runs for month without restart or problems, same on linux. I need 5minutes to setup a new windows rig and i need 5minutes to setup a new linux rig

Windows forced updates ruins anything good about windows for miners.  Plus the TOS for Windows makes it a no go for me. 

You can solve that by having your miner start up automatically on reboots.  Windows update usually ends with a reboot.
In Task manager go to Startup and add a miner startup script there.  Make sure it starts in elevated mode.


Title: Re: Mining on Windows 10 and possibly fixing lower than expected hashrate
Post by: Bitbtc8 on January 25, 2021, 07:04:30 AM
OP find a pendrive with 8gb space and download hiveOS it's way better and easier, you don't have to be disturbed with updates like that of windows 10 anymore and this OS is only for mining purpose only, hiveOS was build on Linux too so its more user friendly than trying to run a mining software on Linux itself


Title: Re: Mining on Windows 10 and possibly fixing lower than expected hashrate
Post by: FP91G on January 25, 2021, 10:02:33 AM
Hmm, it sounds like I'm hearing this for the first time but it's true, anyways I never like mining on windows OS for few reasons and as per hashrate issue mining on Linux OS works better and also we have hive OS and other mining OS now so I don't need windows OS, it's too buggy

To buggy for you. Please don't always generalize windows 10, if good guided people use windows, then there is no difference between windows and linux, but windows is user friendly, because most people can handle it.

Windows runs for month without restart or problems, same on linux. I need 5minutes to setup a new windows rig and i need 5minutes to setup a new linux rig

Windows forced updates ruins anything good about windows for miners.  Plus the TOS for Windows makes it a no go for me. 
The update functions in Windows are disabled by tweaks. The farm doesn't care about virus safety.
Windows take longer to configure and take longer to administer, because on each farm you need to manually update the miners.
In Linux, with one click of a button, you can switch the algorithm and miner for many farms.


Title: Re: Mining on Windows 10 and possibly fixing lower than expected hashrate
Post by: KaratX on January 26, 2021, 12:10:41 PM
I'd definitely go with Linux mining OS like Minerstat or hiveonOS, they are very light and slim in size, also it requires on one click and start ming, easy to monitor with apps and also every overclocking is available in dashboard, even if you want to flash your bios


Title: Re: Mining on Windows 10 and possibly fixing lower than expected hashrate
Post by: FP91G on January 26, 2021, 01:11:59 PM
I'm ready to make a small correction, for the latest models of nvidia video cards (3060-3090),
I would first choose Windows, because they are easily configured through MSI Afterburner.
For amd, you have to use tweaks for memory, so it's easier to use linux


Title: Re: Mining on Windows 10 and possibly fixing lower than expected hashrate
Post by: bobben2 on January 26, 2021, 03:33:11 PM
I agree with you all that Linux is the preferred platform for mining.  I have used Xubuntu since 12.04 and recently Hive OS myself.
But that is not what we are discussing, unless you are suggesting this as the solution to the problem.
For my part I got a small uptick in pool side hash rate once I "fixed" Windows.  Would be interesting to know if others have made the same observation.


Title: Re: Mining on Windows 10 and possibly fixing lower than expected hashrate
Post by: safar1980 on January 26, 2021, 05:33:08 PM
I agree with you all that Linux is the preferred platform for mining.  I have used Xubuntu since 12.04 and recently Hive OS myself.
But that is not what we are discussing, unless you are suggesting this as the solution to the problem.
For my part I got a small uptick in pool side hash rate once I "fixed" Windows.  Would be interesting to know if others have made the same observation.
As a rule, miners appeared faster for Windows than for Linux. Now the situation is changing. Windows allows you to use the farm in parallel for other tasks, such as network storage, VPN service, etc.
The same can be done on Linux, but it's hard for miners to master even simple operating systems for mining.


Title: Re: Mining on Windows 10 and possibly fixing lower than expected hashrate
Post by: bitquad on January 27, 2021, 07:51:22 AM
Hmm, it sounds like I'm hearing this for the first time but it's true, anyways I never like mining on windows OS for few reasons and as per hashrate issue mining on Linux OS works better and also we have hive OS and other mining OS now so I don't need windows OS, it's too buggy

To buggy for you. Please don't always generalize windows 10, if good guided people use windows, then there is no difference between windows and linux, but windows is user friendly, because most people can handle it.

Windows runs for month without restart or problems, same on linux. I need 5minutes to setup a new windows rig and i need 5minutes to setup a new linux rig

Windows forced updates ruins anything good about windows for miners.  Plus the TOS for Windows makes it a no go for me. 
Sledgehammer is a utility that will disable Windows updates. I have it installed on W10 mining rigs.


Title: Re: Mining on Windows 10 and possibly fixing lower than expected hashrate
Post by: Inkdull on January 27, 2021, 09:16:23 AM
Hmm, it sounds like I'm hearing this for the first time but it's true, anyways I never like mining on windows OS for few reasons and as per hashrate issue mining on Linux OS works better and also we have hive OS and other mining OS now so I don't need windows OS, it's too buggy

To buggy for you. Please don't always generalize windows 10, if good guided people use windows, then there is no difference between windows and linux, but windows is user friendly, because most people can handle it.

Windows runs for month without restart or problems, same on linux. I need 5minutes to setup a new windows rig and i need 5minutes to setup a new linux rig

Windows forced updates ruins anything good about windows for miners.  Plus the TOS for Windows makes it a no go for me. 
Sledgehammer is a utility that will disable Windows updates. I have it installed on W10 mining rigs.
What is a sledgehammer? Is there any link or source that talks more about the sledgehammer? I hated windows 10 because of its updates, unnecessary data consumptions and others, believe me I've tried all I can to stop updates but it still happens