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Title: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: notblox1 on January 26, 2021, 03:19:53 PM
https://i.imgur.com/UzHiaip.jpg

ESPN and Ariel Helwani just announced that Jake Paul will be fighting ex UFC/MMA fighter Ben Askren in eight round pro boxing match on April 17
I have no idea why Ben Askren would accept this match, because he was never known as a fighter with great boxing skills, and he was more known for his wrestling and grappling.

Fight is organized by Triller, same company that was promoting latest Mike Tyson fight against Roy Jones Junior.

Ben Askren UFC record 19-2
Jake Paul boxing record 2-0



Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Bttzed03 on January 26, 2021, 03:33:07 PM
Wait what?! The Ben Askren that was on the receiving end of the fastest KO in the UFC history? An MMA fighter who specializes in wrestling is competing in a fist fight ;D Is this fight for charity? If yes, I'll support it. If not, I hope nobody buys tickets/PPVs.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Yaunfitda on January 26, 2021, 03:48:35 PM
Wait what?! The Ben Askren that was on the receiving end of the fastest KO in the UFC history? An MMA fighter who specializes in wrestling is competing in a fist fight ;D Is this fight for charity? If yes, I'll support it. If not, I hope nobody buys tickets/PPVs.
LMAO, yes the same Ben Askren who has a lot of hype around him when he switch to UFC, who trash talk his way, but then Masvidal took out his soul in just 5 seconds.

https://www.mmafighting.com/2021/1/26/22250331/ben-askren-to-fight-jake-paul-in-pro-boxing-bout-on-april-17

It's say "pro-boxing", so I don't know if that means charity fight. In any case, yeah, just another hype fight all for the money.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Hydrogen on January 26, 2021, 10:01:50 PM
Ben Askren's showed toughness and a high capacity to absorb damage in his fight with Robbie Lawler.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5vrfZNMeaA

They say you can't teach toughness and heart. There are many who hit hard and appear to have impressive skills. Who end up being glass cannons. They can dish it out, but can't take it.

I think Ben Askren could win the fight with his toughness, durability, aggressiveness and pace.

Its not a guaranteed win for Jake Paul who has never really been tested.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Natalim on January 26, 2021, 10:58:07 PM
What is happening to the world of sports now? why do we have a lot of clown who try to ruined the reputation of the sport?

A youtuber fighting an ex MMA fighter, I don't like what I'm seeing anymore, sorry, but I feel like they are trying to make a circus in the sports just to make money. They use their popularity to influence their followers so they can get some money by supporting their fight. Unreal, the Logan brothers are really focus on boxing now than on their youtube channel.

The set up is now different, start making yourself popular in youtube so you can be a boxer.  ::)


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Twinkledoe on January 26, 2021, 11:02:21 PM
What is happening to the world of sports now? why do we have a lot of clown who try to ruined the reputation of the sport?

A youtuber fighting an ex MMA fighter, I don't like what I'm seeing anymore, sorry, but I feel like they are trying to make a circus in the sports just to make money. They use their popularity to influence their followers so they can get some money by supporting their fight. Unreal, the Logan brothers are really focus on boxing now than on their youtube channel.

The set up is now different, start making yourself popular in youtube so you can be a boxer.  ::)

Sad but that's the reality here for now. Maybe promoters are favouring these fights because they need to raise money as they don't have assurance to generate money from the gate because of the pandemic crisis. So they are banking on the popularity of the fighters, and hoping that people will buy the PPV for the match. I hope this trend will not continue as we are missing a lot of great fighters in this generation.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: robelneo on January 26, 2021, 11:21:18 PM
Ben Askren is good in grappling I have seen a lot of his winning in grappling but I don't know how he will fare in pure boxing where Paul Logan already two wins and training only in boxing, this is an entertaining fight Logan can punch but I don't know if he can hit Ben Askren who has good agility compared to those he faced in his previous fight, this is a good career build-up for both fighters Ben Askren, needs this win badly so he can get back mainstream.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Botnake on January 26, 2021, 11:25:30 PM
What is happening to the world of sports now? why do we have a lot of clown who try to ruined the reputation of the sport?

A youtuber fighting an ex MMA fighter, I don't like what I'm seeing anymore, sorry, but I feel like they are trying to make a circus in the sports just to make money. They use their popularity to influence their followers so they can get some money by supporting their fight. Unreal, the Logan brothers are really focus on boxing now than on their youtube channel.

The set up is now different, start making yourself popular in youtube so you can be a boxer.  ::)

Sad but that's the reality here for now. Maybe promoters are favouring these fights because they need to raise money as they don't have assurance to generate money from the gate because of the pandemic crisis. So they are banking on the popularity of the fighters, and hoping that people will buy the PPV for the match. I hope this trend will not continue as we are missing a lot of great fighters in this generation.

It's now up to us if we will support this fight by buying the PPV, if fans will not support this kind of fight then promoters would stop doing this. Thing is, we have supported the previous fights of Jake Paul so they are now again doing it, if we keep doing that, they might fight more to make more money, it's very simple.

There's no law that preventing them from doing that, so we have to be open with this kind of entertainment as we can't stop them anyway.

Now, I'm interested to know the betting odds, Jake Paul still has a shot here since he is undefeated.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on January 26, 2021, 11:32:46 PM
Ben Askren is known as a crypto supporter so many people in this forum might already be familiar with him from that. This fight seems like a joke. It is another freak show celebrity fight. Jake Paul is not the best boxer but he does have power and could do some serious damage on Askren. Jake should have enough boxing experience to win this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: eaLiTy on January 27, 2021, 12:00:23 AM
ESPN and Ariel Helwani just announced that Jake Paul will be fighting ex UFC/MMA fighter Ben Askren in eight round pro boxing match on April 17
I have no idea why Ben Askren would accept this match, because he was never known as a fighter with great boxing skills, and he was more known for his wrestling and grappling.
I have no idea what Ben Askren is trying to accomplish here as he never had a great stand up boxing, but he had great ground and pound as his game plan is all about taking the opponent down and smothering on the ground and he was successful throughout his career. When he came to the UFC his hip was messed up big time and after retirement he had some major surgery to rectify them and now he wanted to box  ;D.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: acroman08 on January 27, 2021, 12:47:05 AM
https://i.imgur.com/UzHiaip.jpg

ESPN and Ariel Helwani just announced that Jake Paul will be fighting ex UFC/MMA fighter Ben Askren in eight round pro boxing match on April 17
I have no idea why Ben Askren would accept this match, because he was never known as a fighter with great boxing skills, and he was more known for his wrestling and grappling.

Fight is organized by Triller, same company that was promoting latest Mike Tyson fight against Roy Jones Junior.

Ben Askren UFC record 19-2
Jake Paul boxing record 2-0


I feel like an air quote should be added when they said pro boxing match since the first fighter has had 2 fights and the other is an ex MMA fighter. it should never be called a pro boxing when one of the fighters is an amateur in boxing. that being said at least this fight will be a lot more interesting than a fight between a veteran boxer and an amateur boxer.

never knew jake paul already had boxing fights I thought he was still thinking about entering boxing.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: GreatArkansas on January 27, 2021, 01:31:30 AM
What is happening to the world of sports now? why do we have a lot of clown who try to ruined the reputation of the sport?
A youtuber fighting an ex MMA fighter, I don't like what I'm seeing anymore, sorry, but I feel like they are trying to make a circus in the sports just to make money.
(.....)
Indeed. This is also I thought at first. I remember Conor Mcgregor when he fought Mayweather inside the boxing ring, purely entertainment and dramas. Equal to pure tons of money.

But if we only talk about this fight, I rather go for Jake Paul here inside the boxing ring against Askren, even Jake Paul got still few bouts. Atleast, Jake Paul already got experienced on boxing. 2-0 records for Jake Paul on starting his boxing career is already quite good.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: TravelMug on January 27, 2021, 01:34:26 AM
What is happening to the world of sports now? why do we have a lot of clown who try to ruined the reputation of the sport?

Yeah, this is sort of ridiculous know, so called cross over boxer, now it's becoming a Youtube sensation vs any known boxer or MMA figther.

A youtuber fighting an ex MMA fighter, I don't like what I'm seeing anymore, sorry, but I feel like they are trying to make a circus in the sports just to make money. They use their popularity to influence their followers so they can get some money by supporting their fight. Unreal, the Logan brothers are really focus on boxing now than on their youtube channel.

Yea, not buying into this, this is really becoming a circus and a joke. They already making tons of money from YouTube and still engaging this kind of fights to a well known name in MMA (although Askren has no longer that hype).

The set up is now different, start making yourself popular in youtube so you can be a boxer.  ::)

True, not going to support this fight regardless if this is an exhibition or not.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Kemarit on January 27, 2021, 01:56:33 AM
What is happening to the world of sports now? why do we have a lot of clown who try to ruined the reputation of the sport?
A youtuber fighting an ex MMA fighter, I don't like what I'm seeing anymore, sorry, but I feel like they are trying to make a circus in the sports just to make money.
(.....)
Indeed. This is also I thought at first. I remember Conor Mcgregor when he fought Mayweather inside the boxing ring, purely entertainment and dramas. Equal to pure tons of money.

Yes, we can attribute the bad effect to those two, however, this youtube influencer or sensation brought it to the next level of making money out of this contact sports (boxing, MMA).

But if we only talk about this fight, I rather go for Jake Paul here inside the boxing ring against Askren, even Jake Paul got still few bouts. Atleast, Jake Paul already got experienced on boxing. 2-0 records for Jake Paul on starting his boxing career is already quite good.

On paper 2-0 record is good for non boxing fighter. But we have to remember that Askren has the experienced in the ring, might be grappling but still he is going to be one hard nut to crack. Jake Paul knock outs a ex NBA player who obviously, didn't know about boxing and it is not his sport.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Darker45 on January 27, 2021, 02:01:47 AM
This is what I've been talking about. I guess we will have to be looking forward to more of this kind of boxing matches in the future, and worse, classified under the professional category.

This is what happened to boxing because of several precedents which somehow got the interest of a lot of people, but probably lesser among avid boxing fans.

Triller's Tyson vs. Jones Jr. exhibition fight for the sake of charity was no problem to me. But then the kind of matches such as the one featuring the ex-NBA player Robinson vs. the Youtuber Paul, Mayweather vs. Conor, Mayweather vs. Tenshin, the upcoming Mayweather vs. Logan, and probably more of such kind in the future are of poor taste to me. I mean, if this is the type of boxing matches that will be promoted in the future primarily because the money is there, I don't know if the sport is still as interesting as before.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: STT on January 27, 2021, 02:19:02 AM
Is this fight for charity? If yes, I'll support it. If not, I hope nobody buys tickets/PPVs.

The charity is Jake Paul so in a way yes, if you feeling generous then feel free.   If you want to watch serious boxing then skip but this is about memes and general interest from a section of viewers who wouldnt even watch boxing normally I think.   If they can get the views and justify the show then I'm not surprised its a reoccuring theme.

I recommend you dont watch this video as its mostly nonsense but related; I never went looking to find this, literally the publicity for this fight came to me and its appeared on my feed (Im not a subscriber or fan of any of them).  So the build up and sales for this already began, I'd guess its going to make money for people organising it  : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkhsFGswWNA&feature=emb_title


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Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: babygun on January 27, 2021, 02:38:18 AM
Is this fight for charity? If yes, I'll support it. If not, I hope nobody buys tickets/PPVs.

The charity is Jake Paul so in a way yes, if you feeling generous then feel free.   If you want to watch serious boxing then skip but this is about memes and general interest from a section of viewers who wouldnt even watch boxing normally I think.   If they can get the views and justify the show then I'm not surprised its a reoccuring theme.

I recommend you dont watch this video as its mostly nonsense but related; I never went looking to find this, literally the publicity for this fight came to me and its appeared on my feed (Im not a subscriber or fan of any of them).  So the build up and sales for this already began, I'd guess its going to make money for people organising it  : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkhsFGswWNA&feature=emb_title


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This is another stupid match that I don't want to see, but apparently gets a lot of interest. Nobody would have ever been interested in Jake Paul if his brother was not Logan Paul.
 Also Ben Askren doesn't really ring a bell to me, guess he is not famous enoug lol  ;D.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Yogee on January 27, 2021, 06:27:10 AM
....I think Ben Askren could win the fight with his toughness, durability, aggressiveness and pace.
Jake Paul can use all that Askren toughness by making his face a human punching bag. He's got a good jab and a good trainer in Shane.

Ben can close the distance for sure but I doubt he can land a solid punch. He is also getting older and he doesn't have the same tough chin like he used to as a younger fighter.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: electronicash on January 27, 2021, 07:48:34 AM
it started with Mcgregor now everybody is crossing already. i guess it must be tough for Askren after the terrible loss with just a few seconds lol. but he must have thought seriously about it and after all, he won't be hit by a flying knee in the sports of boxing. boxing isn't easy at all boxing gloves are heavy and for a first-timer, 8 rounds must be exhausting.

how much is he going to profit from this fight?


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on January 27, 2021, 08:11:43 AM
Ben Askren needs this win after that knock out loss against Masvidal and he must win convincingly and in a good fashion to increase his value, that two losses is huge to pull down his career and this win although not enough to get his former aura back but at least he is back in his fighting form if he wins convincingly both fighters needs this win and I hope they give us a good fight.

Nah, he is finished with his UFC career, to be able to get back, he should fight UFC fighters and not this so called youtube sensation. And this is very wrong for him, yes that lost against Masvidal is brutal, but he can't get his former aura if he chooses to make a come back fight against a non UFC. This is a circus fight as other guys have been saying.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: btc_angela on January 27, 2021, 08:15:40 AM
it started with Mcgregor now everybody is crossing already. i guess it must be tough for Askren after the terrible loss with just a few seconds lol. but he must have thought seriously about it and after all, he won't be hit by a flying knee in the sports of boxing. boxing isn't easy at all boxing gloves are heavy and for a first-timer, 8 rounds must be exhausting.

Yes, McGregor is the one who started this kind of fights and set the precedent.

And now everyone wants to do it, specially if their career is over in MMA, like Ben Askren. He really can't get over it mentality, leading to the fight there are a lot of trash talking between him and Masvidal. And then he gets knockout cold in 5 seconds.

how much is he going to profit from this fight?

Probably in the 6 digits figures, we don't know what the purse split is, maybe 50/50, still good money for him after he left UFC.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: TopTort777 on January 27, 2021, 08:33:52 AM
Come on Ben, dont be a joke. This is not yours. There are more different ways to earn. Dont copy/paste Mayweather vs Logan Paul fight (even copy/pasted opponent name lol).

What do we know about Jake Paul - YouTuber, actor, social media influencer, entrepreneur, rapper, professional boxer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Paul). A rapper… Does Mayweather rap ? :D

Ben, if Jake Paul sends you to sleep, you will be humiliated till the end of your life.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Natalim on January 27, 2021, 09:05:48 AM
What is happening to the world of sports now? why do we have a lot of clown who try to ruined the reputation of the sport?
A youtuber fighting an ex MMA fighter, I don't like what I'm seeing anymore, sorry, but I feel like they are trying to make a circus in the sports just to make money.
(.....)
Indeed. This is also I thought at first. I remember Conor Mcgregor when he fought Mayweather inside the boxing ring, purely entertainment and dramas. Equal to pure tons of money.

But if we only talk about this fight, I rather go for Jake Paul here inside the boxing ring against Askren, even Jake Paul got still few bouts. Atleast, Jake Paul already got experienced on boxing. 2-0 records for Jake Paul on starting his boxing career is already quite good.

Suddenly boxing has become a Wrestling match where everything can be scripted, the passion in boxing is gone, it's only now because of the money.
The problem is we are still supporting them, I know they are good in marketing but we should be smart in supporting our favorite sport and that is to keep its reputation.

We can't stop these promoters but if we will not support them, they will eventually stop as no one would promote if they are not profiting on it.

I'm wishing I would not see more like this.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Insanerman on January 27, 2021, 10:24:56 AM
What is happening to the world of sports now? why do we have a lot of clown who try to ruined the reputation of the sport?

Dude since there had been a pandemic, some popular people really just wanted to have an entertainment, especially with the fact that the pandemic had affected the Boxing fights and the hype turns a little less compared to what it really was. It is not really ruining the reputation lol Boxing itself is a form of entertainment, and not limited to certain fighters alone.

This fight is still hilarious. 2 popular trashtalkers would fight for money and I somehow find this entertaining as its hype makes me laugh -- especially how those two would be trash talking each other. In fact, this kind of fights shouldn't be taken seriously. It's like you're watching an exhibition game yet you've think it is on the olympics. Chill guys, this is just for fun, either you bet and pay to watch or not, nothing changes in the boxing world.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: yazher on January 27, 2021, 10:44:09 AM
After that Mayweather and Mcgregor fight, we see such things are becoming popular to the people and not only that, some basketball players have joined the trend as well but as we can see it's not really fit for them. Whatever sports you are good at, you should stick with that so that you will improve more or gather more experience to teach it to the youngster. Don't follow the steps with these guys, they are just simply making stupid things with their unwise decisions.

https://sportshub.cbsistatic.com/i/r/2020/11/29/9b42f61d-a6a7-433a-847c-9b2280f30325/thumbnail/1200x675/48de0a2c41060725d811b0313d1e5898/nate-robinson-out.jpg


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Dave1 on January 27, 2021, 10:53:08 AM
Ben Askren fighting again? this time a hype Jake Paul? doesn't make sense except for the huge money that will be generated by this two hype fighters.What they can do is fight in their social media accounts.

I don't like this so called fighting for exhibition or for the money, those are not for the legacy like Floyd Mayweather which started this whole cross over fights.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Jating on January 27, 2021, 11:00:56 AM
After that Mayweather and Mcgregor fight, we see such things are becoming popular to the people and not only that, some basketball players have joined the trend as well but as we can see it's not really fit for them. Whatever sports you are good at, you should stick with that so that you will improve more or gather more experience to teach it to the youngster. Don't follow the steps with these guys, they are just simply making stupid things with their unwise decisions.

Well that is Floyd and Conor, that time there are hype surrounding this two fighters, Floyd being the boxing's best fighter, no defeat at all, and Conor so brandish and trash talker and really can sell the fights.

But this two? a faded UFC fighter who become the meme after his 5 seconds lost to Masvidal? And Jake Paul, who I'm not familiar with except when he entered the ring. So I'll pass on this one.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Saisher on January 27, 2021, 12:16:09 PM
Ben Askren fighting again? this time a hype Jake Paul? doesn't make sense except for the huge money that will be generated by this two hype fighters.What they can do is fight in their social media accounts.

I don't like this so called fighting for exhibition or for the money, those are not for the legacy like Floyd Mayweather which started this whole cross over fights.

They are just here to entertain us, give them a chance to entertain us I like Jake Paul training in boxing he can give us surprise us, this is his biggest test against a veteran fighter, but I don't think he can do what he did to Nate Robinson, he is in for a serious fight and he could be in big trouble.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Questat on January 27, 2021, 12:32:48 PM
Honestly, I don't know Ben Askren, I've never seen him fight before, maybe he is not popular.
I'll go check his youtube video if he has but I've seen Jake Paul fight already last year, and he has a skills in boxing against a non professional boxer.

Seems like Jake Paul like his brother is using their popularity and taking advantage on making easy money on exhibition fights.
I'm gonna watch this one, I'll find a way because I'm not gonna pay for the PPV.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Fundamentals Of on January 27, 2021, 12:35:42 PM
Ben Askren fighting again? this time a hype Jake Paul? doesn't make sense except for the huge money that will be generated by this two hype fighters.What they can do is fight in their social media accounts.

I don't like this so called fighting for exhibition or for the money, those are not for the legacy like Floyd Mayweather which started this whole cross over fights.

I don't even think that there will be a lot of money to be generated from this fight. This is probably a very boring fight.

Ben Askren is not a superstar. He may have been a great fighter but he has not reached the popularity of the likes of Conor McGregor. And he is a retired fighter who is now old and has been inactive for more than a year. Aside from that, he was not really focused on boxing even during his MMA days.

Jake Paul on the other hand is another noob in the boxing ring.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: ene1980 on January 27, 2021, 12:57:45 PM
Yes, McGregor is the one who started this kind of fights and set the precedent.

And now everyone wants to do it, specially if their career is over in MMA, like Ben Askren. He really can't get over it mentality, leading to the fight there are a lot of trash talking between him and Masvidal. And then he gets knockout cold in 5 seconds.
If someone is able to make money even after retirement i would support them, i am not a big fan of the match up because Ben Askren was never a great boxer in MMA and how he is able to manage someone like Jake Paul who is trained to box even though he is not an established boxer.
About the Masvidal fight i never expected the fight to be over in record time, i was expecting Ben Askren to take Masvidal down and finish the fight but it was a great game plan by Masvidal.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: pinggoki on January 27, 2021, 03:53:54 PM
Honestly, this fight between Jake Paul and Ben Askren was not on my list to be watched on or maybe because I am not a fan of these two, although we can say that they are both a good boxer or good fighters still they are just underrated boxers, despite being underrated boxers still, they have a good standing especially with Ben Askren that has a 19-2 of standing so when I'm about to pick between those two then probably I will pick Ben over Jake because he has more experience based on the standing.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: qwertyup23 on January 27, 2021, 05:04:40 PM
Although not on the same level but this fight kinda resembles the fight between Mayweather and McGreggor where both of them have excel at their respective fields. I have not seen any of the fights of Jake Paul but I have watched Ben Askren in UFC (where he got KOed in a few seconds).

To be honest, this fight does not hype me that much due to the fact that the other is an amateur in boxing. Though I am not sure if this is a fundraising activity or a real fight, it won't get my hypes up but I might watch it though.
 


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: notblox1 on January 27, 2021, 05:06:11 PM
I am looking at bookies odds and Jake Paul is heavy favorite in this fight, but I don't consider him serious boxer or fighter with only two fights.

Ben Askren is better bitcoiner than boxer, but let's see how well he is in predicting his fights, TKO win in 7th round is what he is saying on Twitter :)


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: 7788bitcoin on January 27, 2021, 05:52:22 PM
Come on Ben, dont be a joke. This is not yours. There are more different ways to earn. Dont copy/paste Mayweather vs Logan Paul fight (even copy/pasted opponent name lol).
Jake Paul is the younger brother of Logan Paul if you are not aware of that and both the brothers were high school amateur  wrestlers and they were good at it and it would be great if Jake Paul and Ben Askren wrestled or did submission wrestling rather than box because Jake Paul is boxing along with his brother for big money and Ben Askren was never known as a good boxer in his MMA career.


Ben, if Jake Paul sends you to sleep, you will be humiliated till the end of your life.
Not sure what Ben Askren is thinking but the risk of getting humiliated once again is a possibility.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: YuginKadoya on January 27, 2021, 06:14:58 PM
Jake Paul must be wanting to try the Jorge Masvidal knock out,  or he wants to try a fighter with a ground level of technique, but I think Jake Paul is getting ahead of himself in my opinion, After winning two fights on people that don't have any experience in fighting and not totally fighters but the fight is boxing and not MMA and Ben Askren is known with his ground moves so there might be a light that Paul can make another win but I am doubting it and I think I will go with Ben Askren that simply has experience with fighters.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: dunfida on January 27, 2021, 09:57:24 PM
After that Mayweather and Mcgregor fight, we see such things are becoming popular to the people and not only that, some basketball players have joined the trend as well but as we can see it's not really fit for them. Whatever sports you are good at, you should stick with that so that you will improve more or gather more experience to teach it to the youngster. Don't follow the steps with these guys, they are just simply making stupid things with their unwise decisions.
For the sake of money then you would definitely see these kind of cross-sports kind of fights even though its clear as day on whose gonna win but these fighters or players will swallow up their
pride for the sake of profit or revenue making or as long they would able to fill out their pockets.This isnt totally can be blamed out on the fighters itself but also with the management
as they wouldnt really be having any options for them to refuse on whats been mandated.Creating hype and making cross sport matches to the believe that they can make out much
just like into those past similar events but this do actually becomes the trend as of the moment which it turns out that this isnt already a sports anymore but rather they do showing off
some serious business talks.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: AmoreJaz on January 27, 2021, 11:28:14 PM
After that Mayweather and Mcgregor fight, we see such things are becoming popular to the people and not only that, some basketball players have joined the trend as well but as we can see it's not really fit for them. Whatever sports you are good at, you should stick with that so that you will improve more or gather more experience to teach it to the youngster. Don't follow the steps with these guys, they are just simply making stupid things with their unwise decisions.
For the sake of money then you would definitely see these kind of cross-sports kind of fights even though its clear as day on whose gonna win but these fighters or players will swallow up their
pride for the sake of profit or revenue making or as long they would able to fill out their pockets.This isnt totally can be blamed out on the fighters itself but also with the management
as they wouldnt really be having any options for them to refuse on whats been mandated.Creating hype and making cross sport matches to the believe that they can make out much
just like into those past similar events but this do actually becomes the trend as of the moment which it turns out that this isnt already a sports anymore but rather they do showing off
some serious business talks.

promoters are making this match to happen. so yeah, guess, they are seeing numbers here. that's why they are pushing thru this kind of fight. they need to earn a living also because of this pandemic. now, the popularity is now taken into consideration to sell the fight. maybe after this pandemic, we will see more serious matches.
it seems that boxing industry is going into the popularity contest for the time being. up to you if you will buy this fight or not anyway.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Darker45 on January 28, 2021, 01:42:23 AM
Ben, if Jake Paul sends you to sleep, you will be humiliated till the end of your life.
Not sure what Ben Askren is thinking but the risk of getting humiliated once again is a possibility.

In every fight, there is always the possibility of ending up humiliated. That is a fact that every fighter has to deal with. But I guess it is not much of a big deal if you are a real fighter. But if you are a loudmouth, a showboat, a fighter who heavily swears as if there is zero possibility of you losing, then that humiliation is indeed something to be really ashamed of.

Ben Askren has gone through humiliations. I guess that is something he's not afraid of facing once again. If only for the sake of money. But no worries, his opponent is no boxer himself.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: TravelMug on January 28, 2021, 02:04:58 AM
I wonder why are there more and more UFC or even ex UFC fighters being fixed for a boxing match. I guess most fights are all about money, anything for show and money, amateur fighting in a pro boxing league. I guess boxing and MMA promoters are running out of ways to earn, that is why they are fixing a lot of cross-over match up.

Well if their career is over like in Ben Askren, then you have to find a way to make money. And this is the best way for him, fighting a Youtube sensation, who really know to create hype in social media so it make sense for Askren to ride with Jake Paul.

And for all we know this might be stage, Jake Paul winning the first fight and then Askren asking for a immediate rematch, win-win for this two, more money in the table.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: crwth on January 28, 2021, 02:18:37 AM
It's possible that they are doing it for publicity knowing that having a match like this would be discussed, just like what we are doing now lol. It's all about the money and exposure, I think.

Btw, Ben Askren says he will win by TKO in the 7th round, and Jake Paul quicker than Jorge Masvidal. It's just a bunch of conversations that could spark up more conversations with their claims.

Maybe let's capitalize on betting on this one? Or it's too hard to predict?


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: acroman08 on January 28, 2021, 02:37:56 AM
It's possible that they are doing it for publicity knowing that having a match like this would be discussed, just like what we are doing now lol. It's all about the money and exposure, I think.
it is already past that possibility. it is certain that they are only doing this for exposure and money.

Maybe let's capitalize on betting on this one? Or it's too hard to predict?
it's too hard to predict and I can't be bothered to bet on their fight but it will surely be interesting to watch but I am not gonna buy a PPV for that. I've seen jake paul fight and I am far from impressed and I doubt his past experience will help him or help him have advantage much in this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: smyslov on January 28, 2021, 06:24:43 AM
In this article Jake Paul opens as a favorite maybe because Asken is already retired and Jake Paul is coming up a sensational win, but he is now fighting a real fighter, I'm betting Asken to win the match, this is going to be a very interesting match to see and will motivate both fighters heading before the fight.

Jake Paul Opens As Betting Favorite Over Ben Askren (https://www.boxingdaily.com/boxing-news/jake-paul-opens-as-betting-favorite-over-ben-askren/)


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Hippocrypto on January 28, 2021, 07:19:18 AM
I wonder why are there more and more UFC or even ex UFC fighters being fixed for a boxing match. I guess most fights are all about money, anything for show and money, amateur fighting in a pro boxing league. I guess boxing and MMA promoters are running out of ways to earn, that is why they are fixing a lot of cross-over match up.

This is really all about promotions, and I believed every plans they had would earn a huge amount of return once each fight would successfully happening. MMA fighters is powerful on their strategic attacks in terms of kickboxing, but they're poor against boxing skills because they're not focus on punches. Most often their developments is divided into mixed martial arts, that these fighters should undergo several trainings before their team decide for a big match this coming April.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on January 28, 2021, 08:18:17 AM
It's possible that they are doing it for publicity knowing that having a match like this would be discussed, just like what we are doing now lol. It's all about the money and exposure, I think.
That is the only reason why they want this fight to happen.

Btw, Ben Askren says he will win by TKO in the 7th round, and Jake Paul quicker than Jorge Masvidal. It's just a bunch of conversations that could spark up more conversations with their claims.
See, they are already talking trash in social media, meaning they are selling the fights right away. Ben Askren prediction is much realistic though, Jake Paul taking advantage of that 5 seconds knock out of Jorge Masvidal to create more hype.

Maybe let's capitalize on betting on this one? Or it's too hard to predict?
Unfortunately, I'm not gonna bet on this one though, but for those who are, goodluck.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: LogitechMouse on January 28, 2021, 08:51:12 AM
Is this the effect of the McGregor-Mayweather fight years ago?
MMA Fighters, Celebrities are fighting in a boxing ring :D. Quite ironic but for the sake of money, they will do it.

After the loss of Askren against Masvidal (with the fastest time), it is his chance to redeem himself at least. Well for the sake of money they will do it. I might try to bet on this fight for some reasons but I don't who which side I will pick. A lot more of this kind of fights will happen in the future though.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: btc_angela on January 28, 2021, 08:57:13 AM
Is this the effect of the McGregor-Mayweather fight years ago?
MMA Fighters, Celebrities are fighting in a boxing ring :D. Quite ironic but for the sake of money, they will do it.

Right, and with the ton of money they've created, make sense for some of celebrities to follow to their footsteps.

After the loss of Askren against Masvidal (with the fastest time), it is his chance to redeem himself at least. Well for the sake of money they will do it. I might try to bet on this fight for some reasons but I don't who which side I will pick. A lot more of this kind of fights will happen in the future though.

But if he wanted to regain and redeem himself, he should fight in the Octagon again. I guess that's not his intention here, not for the legacy but for the love of money.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: plr on January 28, 2021, 08:58:45 AM
Jake Paul is a favorite here but Asken is a former world champion and has a good record before that two successive losses, the only advantage that I can think of Paul is he is fresh from his winning but Asken is already retired, if Ben losses this match it's going to be a big humiliation for him, it's ok to lose to an MMA fighter but not to a YouTube star.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Botnake on January 28, 2021, 09:35:00 AM
Jake Paul is a favorite here but Asken is a former world champion and has a good record before that two successive losses, the only advantage that I can think of Paul is he is fresh from his winning but Asken is already retired, if Ben losses this match it's going to be a big humiliation for him, it's ok to lose to an MMA fighter but not to a YouTube star.

You are right, Jake Paul is the favorite because this is boxing and he is undefeated with 2-0 record.
As per this site ; https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/news/boxing/updated-odds-jake-paul-vs-ben-askren-april-2021/

here are the odds :

Quote
Fighter   Odds
Jake Paul   -155
Ben Askren   +105

Nice odds, seems like a fair odds for me, but I like Jake Paul to win  here and I believe that this will go to distance.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: ene1980 on January 28, 2021, 01:04:11 PM
Btw, Ben Askren says he will win by TKO in the 7th round, and Jake Paul quicker than Jorge Masvidal. It's just a bunch of conversations that could spark up more conversations with their claims.
After his retirement may be he was doing some hard boxing lessons to have this kind of confidence  :D. Jake Paul can knock out Ben Askren and if the fight goes to the distance i will be surprised. I have seen all his old fights in MMA and i have never seen Ben in a stand up battle.

Maybe let's capitalize on betting on this one? Or it's too hard to predict?
I will stay away from betting and will watch the fight, Ben was a high level MMA fight during his prime but you cannot say that about Jake Paul other than his entertaining fights.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: coin-investor on January 28, 2021, 01:10:02 PM


Ben Askren has gone through humiliations. I guess that is something he's not afraid of facing once again. If only for the sake of money. But no worries, his opponent is no boxer himself.

There are reports and articles that point Paul as the favorite here, this is very interesting considering that he is facing a tough fighter in Asken, Ben Asken cannot add more humiliations, this the biggest humiliation he will ever receive if ever Jake Paul beats him, his two wins is against a very low-level fighter so I expect ben Asken to go all out here and beat Jake Paul.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Janation on January 28, 2021, 01:13:37 PM
I want Ben Askren to win here.

I am not getting salty about Jake Paul's record here or the fact that he's fighting an MMA Fighter well known for his grappling and wrestling skills. I just wanted to see the look at Jake Paul's face when he was knocked out or lose in this match. He's been so confident in the past months because of the knockout that he made but I think someone will sweep his smirk out of his face in the near future.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: ReiMomo on January 28, 2021, 01:25:02 PM
here are the odds :

Quote
Fighter   Odds
Jake Paul   -155
Ben Askren   +105

Nice odds, seems like a fair odds for me, but I like Jake Paul to win  here and I believe that this will go to distance.
The latest odds here,

Quote
Jake Paul   -240
Ben Askren   +190
https://www.top10sportsbettingsites.net/betting-specials/jake-paul-vs-ben-askren-preview

It seems, Jake Paul here will become an underdog, and obviously, his opponent has got more supporters than Jake.
Ben Askren will most likely who will win this match but who knows, there are too many changes that will happen in this fight.

Is everyone place their bets?


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Kelvinid on January 28, 2021, 01:31:47 PM
I can remember how McGreggor asking Mayweather for a fight. And now, Askren has been also desperate after a quick loss vs Masdival, yeah it probably of the same ending.

I look forward also that ben would win but the problem is he won't have a boxing skill. He might good in MMA but boxing is a big difference and that 3 months in preparation is not long enough to develop and put him in a firm. If he could extend their fight schedule, much better and probably have a chance to win.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: kkaroul4 on January 28, 2021, 01:47:57 PM
I thought Jake Paul would be fighting May Weather guess no one was interested on the fight, well is there any bookies from the bitcointalk forum that will cover this upcoming match on April?


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: TopTort777 on January 28, 2021, 02:39:10 PM
Ben Askren has gone through humiliations. I guess that is something he's not afraid of facing once again. If only for the sake of money. But no worries, his opponent is no boxer himself.

We can forgive Ben everything, because he turns to be "our guy"  ;D

https://i.imgur.com/r1Ikqj5.png

Not surprise to see not such a big gap in odds. Thought there will be an abyss.
Thanks to 7788bitcoin found out that his opponent has a sport background and, I hope, has enough stamina for the whole distance. As Ben is not a heavy puncher, we might see a fight that last longer than few rounds and there might be an upset in it.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: FlightyPouch on January 28, 2021, 02:52:10 PM
Why is this a "Pro Boxing Match"? I know that Jake Paul is making his way into boxing, still, I don't see him lasting in that path but his opponent is an MMA fighter whose punching skills is not that great even inside the octagon. I don't know who will win here but even though Ben had a lot of matches than Jake, I think Jake has a higher chance of winning this match.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: kamadazje on January 28, 2021, 04:17:13 PM
I guess Triller company has a deeper reason why they arranged this fight but what is sure is, they are doing it to earn some money for sure especially that this kind of fight will generate a huge amount of money if it will click to the viewers.

Though I am not so sure whether the Paul and Askren fight will generate the same profit to Mike and Jones match as they are not that well known. But let's see whether Ben can also make a good performance in boxing ring.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Mahanton on January 28, 2021, 06:30:12 PM
I guess Triller company has a deeper reason why they arranged this fight but what is sure is, they are doing it to earn some money for sure especially that this kind of fight will generate a huge amount of money if it will click to the viewers.

Though I am not so sure whether the Paul and Askren fight will generate the same profit to Mike and Jones match as they are not that well known. But let's see whether Ben can also make a good performance in boxing ring.
Isnt that obvious? With all of those exhibition fights that we had seen, including to those fighters that had been long retired and just came back to the ring to make out some money.

We will continue to see fights like this and this kind of arrangements and set-ups when these organizations do sees that they can really milk out money from it, not only to the boxers/players itself
but also into the management.

Back to the fight then this isnt really that too much in hype compared into those previous match-ups/exhibitions that we had seen but at least they would really be
getting some views for this fight but expected it wont really be high as that.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: notblox1 on January 28, 2021, 09:42:46 PM
This fight is going to be a bit more interesting for me after I heard that Jake Paul is working with Jorge Masvidal in preparation for boxing with Ben Askren.
People who follow MMA know that Masvidal defeated Ben Akren with great KO after just few seconds of the fight in first round.
Check it out for yourself :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRQVfegsiKE


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: FlightyPouch on January 28, 2021, 10:09:20 PM
Why is this a "Pro Boxing Match"? I know that Jake Paul is making his way into boxing, still, I don't see him lasting in that path but his opponent is an MMA fighter whose punching skills is not that great even inside the octagon. I don't know who will win here but even though Ben had a lot of matches than Jake, I think Jake has a higher chance of winning this match.

He has a good punch against a weak fighter like Robinson I don't know to someone like Ben Asken, it's different when you are hitting an inexperienced fighter to a well-expeirenced fighter if Paul has a good punching power he will have to find a way to connect it against Ben Asken who is very agile, this is going to be an interesting match. whoever wins here will have a good career and will be back in the limelight both fighters need this win.

I don't know any of the backstories about this fight but all I know now is that Ben Asken is representing those fighters that are so annoyed and got hot-blooded that want to face Jake Paul on the ring. In fact, if you will be looking through the internet, there are a lot of fighters that want to fight Jake Paul, he's been after professional athletes and even taunted McGregor for a fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Noctis Connor on January 28, 2021, 10:33:00 PM
Is this serious? Ben Askren talk too much about the match latelay even in some interviews this fight will only take 1 round for sure and Jake Paul will be down anyways it is just for money even he knows even the match is not yet started his gonna lose the fight we'll i can't judge him that match but you can see the credibility of the fighter if you are watching it and you can tell in early even you got practice or so on you cannot just make a miracle in the battle but however good luck for both of them.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Vaculin on January 28, 2021, 11:00:34 PM
Is this serious? Ben Askren talk too much about the match latelay even in some interviews this fight will only take 1 round for sure and Jake Paul will be down anyways it is just for money even he knows even the match is not yet started his gonna lose the fight we'll i can't judge him that match but you can see the credibility of the fighter if you are watching it and you can tell in early even you got practice or so on you cannot just make a miracle in the battle but however good luck for both of them.

We will hear that kind of statement from either or both fighters, that's normal, they are selling the fight so they like to talk some trash talk or something that will caught the attention of the viewers, because you shared it here, I can say that the strategy is very effective, you buying subscription of this fight?


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: 7788bitcoin on January 28, 2021, 11:54:10 PM
Why is this a "Pro Boxing Match"? I know that Jake Paul is making his way into boxing, still, I don't see him lasting in that path but his opponent is an MMA fighter whose punching skills is not that great even inside the octagon. I don't know who will win here but even though Ben had a lot of matches than Jake, I think Jake has a higher chance of winning this match.
Jake Paul is not looking to be world champion in the sport of boxing, he only does celebrity fights that attracts a big crowd and that is the same path his brother is following as well and they are making millions by putting together these fights.
Not sure whether this will be a sanctioned bout, as long as people like these kind of spectacles we will see these match ups.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on January 28, 2021, 11:58:51 PM
Back to the fight then this isnt really that too much in hype compared into those previous match-ups/exhibitions that we had seen but at least they would really be
getting some views for this fight but expected it wont really be high as that.
It will not be a stand alone fight, there will be a fight card and i am expecting them to put together a good card to sell the fight, i expected Ben Askren to return to grappling as there are several competitions around but i was surprised when he choose boxing, may be he wanted to challenge himself after getting humiliated in the UFC for his lack of stand up game.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Welsh on January 29, 2021, 01:32:59 AM
I heard there was multiple people that were offered money to fight Jake Paul. Bisping said on a podcast that he was offered a contract, and countered the offer for more, and never heard back. That's a fight I can get behind, just because I believe Jake Paul really needs a reality check. Although, I'm not sure how much of his personality is for the cameras, but it seems that a lot of people within that space has claimed he's also very much the same off camera.

Ben, although a ufc fighter he was predominately known for his wrestling, and was probably considered one of the worst strikers. I would probably say many fans of the sport considered him to be one of the worst of the UFC period. Although, hes a tough guy so he can definitely take a punch. I'm just hoping he can beat Paul here, and hopefully in a fairly dominant manner.

This is absolutely brilliant by Jake Paul though, calls out everyone, and their mother, and then picks one of the weaker opponents in Ben. If Jake wins he's now known for the Youtuber who beat a professional MMA fighter. If he loses, he'll be given some leeway due to Ben being a professional fighter. Its a masterclass by Paul, and his team.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Fredomago on January 29, 2021, 02:41:45 AM
Back to the fight then this isnt really that too much in hype compared into those previous match-ups/exhibitions that we had seen but at least they would really be
getting some views for this fight but expected it wont really be high as that.
It will not be a stand alone fight, there will be a fight card and i am expecting them to put together a good card to sell the fight, i expected Ben Askren to return to grappling as there are several competitions around but i was surprised when he choose boxing, may be he wanted to challenge himself after getting humiliated in the UFC for his lack of stand up game.

They needed to do that, as promoters need to find good selections of fight in order to cover in case this fight won't get a lot of crowd to support this two fighters.

Promoters will put along good fights it's given that they are aware that in order to entice viewers the need
of providing additional interesting fights are very important, it support the remaining big event in order
to make sure that they'll be able to make it up for all the expenses.

Though fans are everywhere this two fighters have their own followers and supporters.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Darker45 on January 29, 2021, 03:51:07 AM
Ben Askren has gone through humiliations. I guess that is something he's not afraid of facing once again. If only for the sake of money. But no worries, his opponent is no boxer himself.

We can forgive Ben everything, because he turns to be "our guy"  ;D

https://i.imgur.com/r1Ikqj5.png

LOL! But yeah, we could give him that forgiveness, although only partially. Wearing a Litecoin shirt is good but wearing a Bitcoin shirt is much better and would be more appreciated. Nevertheless, yes, he could be "our guy" in this fight. I'm now considering placing a bet on him on this one. ;D

However, as I've said, this is just a match purely for fun and money for the promoters and organizers. But I am not even sure of the fun part. Well, it might really be fun if he's going to be wearing gloves printed with Bitcoin logo on them. ;D


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: 7788bitcoin on January 29, 2021, 09:34:19 AM
I heard there was multiple people that were offered money to fight Jake Paul. Bisping said on a podcast that he was offered a contract, and countered the offer for more, and never heard back. That's a fight I can get behind, just because I believe Jake Paul really needs a reality check. Although, I'm not sure how much of his personality is for the cameras, but it seems that a lot of people within that space has claimed he's also very much the same off camera.
Michael Bisping could easily defeat Jake Paul but he is having a problem with the eye sight and it is not a secret anymore and the opponents can come up with a game plan that could hit him around his weaker eye. Jake Paul and Logan Paul made a career with social media presence and his brother became notorious when he posted the video of a dead body and i wont be surprised if they are crazy in real life as well ;D. 


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Natalim on January 29, 2021, 09:53:31 AM
I didn't know Ben  is a crypto enthusiast, I'm glad to see that picture, it's a big help to promote bitcoin to the public.

Actually it would be nice if some big crypto holders would help to promote the fight, I actually saw a fight before an MMA fight that there was a crypto picture displayed in the ring, I just don't know the exact name of crypto but I'm sure it's a crypto coin since I keep checking the market regularly.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Alucard1 on January 29, 2021, 09:59:23 AM
I noticed that a fight like this is commonly happening nowadays, a mismatch fighting or a different field of fighters will be in one ring so the other would take advantage for sure this would be just for money or for charity, hoping that the prizes would be going to charity if that so then I would support this fight. I don't know both fighters so I will not support them if that would not be for charity.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: TopTort777 on January 29, 2021, 10:48:59 AM
LOL! But yeah, we could give him that forgiveness, although only partially. Wearing a Litecoin shirt is good but wearing a Bitcoin shirt is much better and would be more appreciated. Nevertheless, yes, he could be "our guy" in this fight. I'm now considering placing a bet on him on this one. ;D

However, as I've said, this is just a match purely for fun and money for the promoters and organizers. But I am not even sure of the fun part. Well, it might really be fun if he's going to be wearing gloves printed with Bitcoin logo on them. ;D

I guess Ben could get free stickers from here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5209557.0) and add to his sports wear lol :D

As this is all about "fun and money", Jakes brother fight Floyd Mayweather, I wonder if Paul family has other relatives that once to fight? About 23-24 years ago (dont remember precisely) I've trained Taekwondo for a year and got a yellow belt. I can fight Pauls family member wearing bitcointalk.org temporary tattoo :D


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Questat on January 29, 2021, 11:10:02 AM
I noticed that a fight like this is commonly happening nowadays, a mismatch fighting or a different field of fighters will be in one ring so the other would take advantage for sure this would be just for money or for charity, hoping that the prizes would be going to charity if that so then I would support this fight. I don't know both fighters so I will not support them if that would not be for charity.

According to the betting odds, the fight is not a mismatch.

Look at the betting odds in https://www.covers.com/boxing/jake-paul-ben-askren-odds, it doesn't look like a mismatch.

https://i.imgur.com/BnxKDAr.png

The odds tells us about the real chances of the game, not those bias articles we read, so even if Jake Paul is obviously the favorites, but I don't call it a mismatch.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Janation on January 29, 2021, 11:10:27 AM
I noticed that a fight like this is commonly happening nowadays, a mismatch fighting or a different field of fighters will be in one ring so the other would take advantage for sure this would be just for money or for charity, hoping that the prizes would be going to charity if that so then I would support this fight. I don't know both fighters so I will not support them if that would not be for charity.

I don't think they are planning anything like that.

This is purely a match and the benefits will be taken by these two "boxers" the same with the producers and "business managers" of this fight. I don't like these kinds of matches where a "boxer" would just fight anyone who he wanted to fight. Is this how easy it is to earn money right now? Still, hoping they would be sending some funds to a charity they will be choosing.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Welsh on January 29, 2021, 01:33:26 PM
Michael Bisping could easily defeat Jake Paul but he is having a problem with the eye sight and it is not a secret anymore and the opponents can come up with a game plan that could hit him around his weaker eye. Jake Paul and Logan Paul made a career with social media presence and his brother became notorious when he posted the video of a dead body and i wont be surprised if they are crazy in real life as well ;D. 

Yeah, but hes also fought before with that eye, or lack  of eye if you will. Bisping is a machine, and I love the guy. He's probably one of my all time favorite MMA fighters, and hes not a bad commentator either. I do think Bisping would have pieced him up, but I'm not as confident that Ben will. Its a boxing match, and its slightly different to what Ben is used too. Ben, is a wrestler by heart, and unless he can significantly improve his stand up game, I  feel this could be a landslide, with Ben just getting punished.

I don't think Jake is going to KO Ben though. Jake has only fought celebrities before, and I think he thinks its going to be just as easy to knock out a pro.

As for Logan, he at least seems to have made up for his mistake. I don't really believe in branding someone as something when they've only made a mistake. He was a young kid, and doesn't pull the same acts as he used too, so I'm willing to forgive that. Obviously, the family of the man, and those that saw it can have different opinions, but I think he's largely won his reputation back.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: AmoreJaz on January 29, 2021, 09:35:17 PM
I noticed that a fight like this is commonly happening nowadays, a mismatch fighting or a different field of fighters will be in one ring so the other would take advantage for sure this would be just for money or for charity, hoping that the prizes would be going to charity if that so then I would support this fight. I don't know both fighters so I will not support them if that would not be for charity.

I don't think they are planning anything like that.

This is purely a match and the benefits will be taken by these two "boxers" the same with the producers and "business managers" of this fight. I don't like these kinds of matches where a "boxer" would just fight anyone who he wanted to fight. Is this how easy it is to earn money right now? Still, hoping they would be sending some funds to a charity they will be choosing.

thats what am thinking. if this is like more of exhibition fight, then at least send some proceeds to any charity org. at least make this worthwhile, right? or are we seeing greedy promoters and boxers here? we all know they are just like "substandard" boxers, one of them is not even a prof boxer. not really worth to pay ppv for them, imo. but we cant deny the fact that they have loyal followers so they will be banking on those followers to earn from this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Mahanton on January 29, 2021, 09:51:01 PM
I noticed that a fight like this is commonly happening nowadays, a mismatch fighting or a different field of fighters will be in one ring so the other would take advantage for sure this would be just for money or for charity, hoping that the prizes would be going to charity if that so then I would support this fight. I don't know both fighters so I will not support them if that would not be for charity.

I don't think they are planning anything like that.

This is purely a match and the benefits will be taken by these two "boxers" the same with the producers and "business managers" of this fight. I don't like these kinds of matches where a "boxer" would just fight anyone who he wanted to fight. Is this how easy it is to earn money right now? Still, hoping they would be sending some funds to a charity they will be choosing.

thats what am thinking. if this is like more of exhibition fight, then at least send some proceeds to any charity org. at least make this worthwhile, right? or are we seeing greedy promoters and boxers here? we all know they are just like "substandard" boxers, one of them is not even a prof boxer. not really worth to pay ppv for them, imo. but we cant deny the fact that they have loyal followers so they will be banking on those followers to earn from this fight.
Arranging up these kind of fights did become quite common on last year and up to now,is this the new way on milking out for ppv sales? Imagine that Mike Tyson  and Jones Jr. didnt really generate that much
even these people  are  known legendaries on boxing world but still not enough on getting recognition.They do still make money  though but  for sure it isnt on something that they were expecting.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: STT on February 01, 2021, 09:46:21 PM
Anything that makes money is good especially PPV because of restrictions to large gatherings, I imagine many industries are struggling with unforeseen revenue failure like this.   I cant blame them for going with anything that works and its labelled exhibition so nobody should be complaining its compromising the sport especially as its not designed to be more then entertainment in a very difficult couple of years.

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he must win convincingly and in a good fashion to increase his value

I think they are good either way, obviously dont get destroyed in this match would be best but losing even Im not sure is a bad result so long as the desired result occurs which is to garner ticket sales and bring in some money from punters.   If they get the sales then both boxers are gaining from the fight and everyone is happy, if its flaky, unreliable and short unentertaining match then maybe its not likely repeated but I dont think this is meant to be absolutely serious in determining anyone's career.   Jake Paul is clearly just trying to become mainstream from a more virtual acting type sphere, hopefully they both do the training and preparation not to get worn out too early.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Welsh on February 02, 2021, 12:01:43 AM
At the end of the day, Ben is a professional fighter that's been tested extensively over his period of fighting. Hes a decent fighter, maybe not someone to get overly excited about, but hes not going to be a pushover. The concerning part is; hes not predominantly a striker, and has spent most of his time wrestling, and has been beaten convincingly in the stand up game. However, we don't really know how well Jake is at throwing hands. At the end of the day, he's fought another Youtuber, and a basketball player. He's looked good I guess, but its easy to look good against those that haven't trained for longer than him. The basketball player did not look like he had a clue on how to fight, how to gauge distance or anything really. It was comical, although you'd expect that, at his profession Basketball he would have schooled Jake. So, what I'm trying to say is Ben wasn't the best striker in MMA, but he was against other professional fighters, and its always harder than being in a fight with a Youtuber. I think the whole MMA scene is hoping that Ben doesn't lose, or at least not convincingly.

I just can't see him losing convincingly. He's a professional fighter, and has taken a few beatdowns in his life that's for sure. However, I don't think Jake will have the power, or the volume to bother Ben in that regard. This fight is determined whether or not Ben can land punches. If he can, I think Jake will be the one in trouble, if not Ben's going to have an headache, as I absolutely cannot see him getting knocked out by Jake.

I haven't checked the odds yet, and I'm not even sure I'm going to watch this event yet. However, I suspect that Ben might have some decent odds despite his professional background?


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Lorence.xD on February 02, 2021, 12:15:56 AM
Wait what?! The Ben Askren that was on the receiving end of the fastest KO in the UFC history? An MMA fighter who specializes in wrestling is competing in a fist fight ;D Is this fight for charity? If yes, I'll support it. If not, I hope nobody buys tickets/PPVs.
That's the Ben Askren, if my knowledge serves, it is against Masvidal. I don't know about Askren specializing in wrestling being a problem, in my opinion it is not a problem, Askren got a 19-2 record to back up his reputation although the Masvidal's knee kick really did him good. No matter what we are hoping for, people that support Jake Paul will buy those tickets and other people who wants to watch it will always buy one, one thing that I hope is that it is for charity.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Welsh on February 03, 2021, 01:23:41 AM
That's the Ben Askren, if my knowledge serves, it is against Masvidal. I don't know about Askren specializing in wrestling being a problem, in my opinion it is not a problem, Askren got a 19-2 record to back up his reputation although the Masvidal's knee kick really did him good. No matter what we are hoping for, people that support Jake Paul will buy those tickets and other people who wants to watch it will always buy one, one thing that I hope is that it is for charity.
He's definitely known for his wrestling more than his striking. Ben is a very good wrestler in fact, and that's why hes been in with the big names, such as the mentioned Masvidal. The thing is, he's never been known for his boxing...well that's not entirely true, hes been criticized before for being a one dimensional fighter, and relying on his wrestling. Although, I'm not sure how one can criticize that as wrestling is in fact quite versatile, and seems to be the bane of some of the greatest fighters we've seen in the UFC. Its why I think Khabib has been so successful, other than being a fantastic wrestler himself, some of his opponents were known for their striking ability, and not their wrestling.

However, in this fight it comes down to striking. Ben we know didn't have the best striking in the MMA scene, but that doesn't mean hes going to be bad when compared with Jake. Looking at Jake he has decent technique, but that will go out of the window once hes gets pressured by Ben, because Ben certainly isn't going to be afraid of getting tagged. This pressure is what I think will cause Jake the most problems, since he hasn't really been training long enough to solidify that muscle memory which comes from years, and years of practice, especially when your getting hit back.

In all of his fights, he hasn't been hit back, so we really don't know what to expect once he does. For anyone thinking that Ben simply won't land, I personally think they are overlooking Ben. Ben will catch Jake, and he will be a test despite his apparent lack of ability striking.

For the sake of MMA saving face, I'm really hoping that Ben puts Jake away early in the fight. However, Jake likely won't just disappear, he'll just say he lost to a professional fighter. Its a win, win for Jake. Whereas, all Ben benefits from this is the money involved, which is likely swayed heavily in Jake's favour, since a few other fighters like Bisping were also approached, and made counter offers.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: CarnagexD on February 04, 2021, 10:44:53 PM
This is already a lost cause for Ben Askren, he may win the match but at the end of the day, he won against a Youtuber, whereas Jake can just simply say he was bodied by a professional fighter in case he loses. A much more humiliating defeat will ensue if Askren loses to Jake which I hope don't happen for MMA's sake. Only thing Askren is going to get back from this would be the money, other than that Jake will be getting the fame.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Botnake on February 05, 2021, 12:57:00 PM
This is already a lost cause for Ben Askren, he may win the match but at the end of the day, he won against a Youtuber, whereas Jake can just simply say he was bodied by a professional fighter in case he loses. A much more humiliating defeat will ensue if Askren loses to Jake which I hope don't happen for MMA's sake. Only thing Askren is going to get back from this would be the money, other than that Jake will be getting the fame.

He can't make that excuse because he himself is a professional boxer, FYI, his record is 2-0, all win by KO>

source : https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/912383
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Paul

https://i.imgur.com/aWGLM2b.png


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Welsh on February 05, 2021, 01:13:54 PM
He can't make that excuse because he himself is a professional boxer, FYI, his record is 2-0, all win by KO>

Although, technically true his record, and status doesn't really tell the whole story. Yeah, he is a professional boxer, and yeah he does have a 2-0 record all of which ended in TKO/KO. However, they were not against traditional professional boxers, in fact I believe it was difficult to find a commissioning body to authorize them for professional boxing (no head guards) not all states that were approached were willing to do so. Plus, he didn't fight other professional boxers really, he fought in a "white collar" type event in which the opponents were not professional boxers previously to this event. Plus, its highly likely that the opponents that he has faced will never have a professional boxing match ever again, as this was a one off event.

So, although the MMA world is probably sweating it right now, Jake does have a reasonable excuse, and any outcome isn't going to overly damage his reputation. If he gets brutally knocked out, and doesn't land a glove then that might make him become a "meme", but its not really going to effect his chances of progressing further into boxing if he wanted too.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Botnake on February 05, 2021, 01:20:11 PM
He can't make that excuse because he himself is a professional boxer, FYI, his record is 2-0, all win by KO>

Although, technically true his record, and status doesn't really tell the whole story. Yeah, he is a professional boxer, and yeah he does have a 2-0 record all of which ended in TKO/KO. However, they were not against traditional professional boxers, in fact I believe it was difficult to find a commissioning body to authorize them for professional boxing (no head guards) not all states that were approached were willing to do so. Plus, he didn't fight other professional boxers really, he fought in a "white collar" type event in which the opponents were not professional boxers previously to this event. Plus, its highly likely that the opponents that he has faced will never have a professional boxing match ever again, as this was a one off event.

So, although the MMA world is probably sweating it right now, Jake does have a reasonable excuse, and any outcome isn't going to overly damage his reputation. If he gets brutally knocked out, and doesn't land a glove then that might make him become a "meme", but its not really going to effect his chances of progressing further into boxing if he wanted too.


I definitely understands it, I am not even aware at first that Jake Paul was a professional boxer, I thought the fight against Nate Robinson was a pure exhibition game but when I read some news about the fight, it was written there that it was Jake Pau's 2nd win as a professional boxer, so I have already put that in my mind that he really is a professional.

So for the record, for those who have not followed Jake Paul's career.

1st fight was against a youtubeer
2nd fight was against a former NBA player.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: 7788bitcoin on February 08, 2021, 11:44:32 PM
So, although the MMA world is probably sweating it right now, Jake does have a reasonable excuse, and any outcome isn't going to overly damage his reputation. If he gets brutally knocked out, and doesn't land a glove then that might make him become a "meme", but its not really going to effect his chances of progressing further into boxing if he wanted too.
I have seen Jake Paul scratching as i cannot call them professional boxers even though the record books shows that, the boxing commission would allow any journeyman to compete as a boxer if you are new to the sport and he won both of his bouts by knockout which means he has power in his hands, Ben Askren is never known to be a hard puncher nor a technical stand up fighter and if Jake could land a clean punch the tide will turn against Askren.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: OgNasty on February 08, 2021, 11:48:55 PM
So it looks like this fight is going to happen before the Mayweather fight now?  I feel like the ground is crumbling beneath these weird 'celebrity' matches.  I sure hope we get to see some actual exciting matchups before this fad disappears into nonexistence.  I feel like Jose Canseco's pathetic dive knockout might have signaled the peak of this nonsense, but I sure hope we see some big 200+pounder get a crack at Mayweather before all is said and done.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: AmoreJaz on February 09, 2021, 11:53:17 PM
Wait what?! The Ben Askren that was on the receiving end of the fastest KO in the UFC history? An MMA fighter who specializes in wrestling is competing in a fist fight ;D Is this fight for charity? If yes, I'll support it. If not, I hope nobody buys tickets/PPVs.

Unfortunately these people wants to capitalize their YouTube and sports popularity and make money from it. So i'd rather not buy into this exhibition fights started by them. Not only it will boost their popularity but also gain profits. I'd rather see great fighters such as May-Pac 2 than this clown show that maybe scripted.

 thats the trend these days. because they cant generate gate income, what these promoters are hoping for is to get viewers from the respective followers of these fighters and hoping that they will buy PPVs, . at least earn a living while still in pandemic. maybe this trend will change once we get back to normal and people can watch again in the arena. til then, these promoters will find a way how to attract boxing fans to sell the fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Fredomago on February 10, 2021, 01:05:36 AM
Wait what?! The Ben Askren that was on the receiving end of the fastest KO in the UFC history? An MMA fighter who specializes in wrestling is competing in a fist fight ;D Is this fight for charity? If yes, I'll support it. If not, I hope nobody buys tickets/PPVs.

Unfortunately these people wants to capitalize their YouTube and sports popularity and make money from it. So i'd rather not buy into this exhibition fights started by them. Not only it will boost their popularity but also gain profits. I'd rather see great fighters such as May-Pac 2 than this clown show that maybe scripted.

 thats the trend these days. because they cant generate gate income, what these promoters are hoping for is to get viewers from the respective followers of these fighters and hoping that they will buy PPVs, . at least earn a living while still in pandemic. maybe this trend will change once we get back to normal and people can watch again in the arena. til then, these promoters will find a way how to attract boxing fans to sell the fight.

Crorrect. Promoters will dwell to whatever forms of venue to accumulate money. They'll seen that fans due to boresome from this current pandemic might be interested with such types of fights.

Better not to buy this as the honor of this sports already at risk, there are real boxers who needs support and they spend time to train and to showcase their skills and talents.

Let them harvest the fruit of thier works.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Botnake on February 10, 2021, 10:22:04 PM
Wait what?! The Ben Askren that was on the receiving end of the fastest KO in the UFC history? An MMA fighter who specializes in wrestling is competing in a fist fight ;D Is this fight for charity? If yes, I'll support it. If not, I hope nobody buys tickets/PPVs.

Unfortunately these people wants to capitalize their YouTube and sports popularity and make money from it. So i'd rather not buy into this exhibition fights started by them. Not only it will boost their popularity but also gain profits. I'd rather see great fighters such as May-Pac 2 than this clown show that maybe scripted.

 thats the trend these days. because they cant generate gate income, what these promoters are hoping for is to get viewers from the respective followers of these fighters and hoping that they will buy PPVs, . at least earn a living while still in pandemic. maybe this trend will change once we get back to normal and people can watch again in the arena. til then, these promoters will find a way how to attract boxing fans to sell the fight.

Crorrect. Promoters will dwell to whatever forms of venue to accumulate money. They'll seen that fans due to boresome from this current pandemic might be interested with such types of fights.

Better not to buy this as the honor of this sports already at risk, there are real boxers who needs support and they spend time to train and to showcase their skills and talents.

Let them harvest the fruit of thier works.


I'm okay with supporting this but not on professional boxers fighting on an exhibition match, or a retired and popular boxer fighting a youtuber. Both of these are not popular in the sports of boxing, they will have a show and asking us to support by buying the PPV, now we have to decide to support it or not.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: TimeTeller on February 10, 2021, 10:47:04 PM

I'm okay with supporting this but not on professional boxers fighting on an exhibition match, or a retired and popular boxer fighting a youtuber. Both of these are not popular in the sports of boxing, they will have a show and asking us to support by buying the PPV, now we have to decide to support it or not.

I remember before during the height of this pandemic crisis, everyone was asking for new sports to watch as there were no live ones to watch out for.
Right now, promoters are capitalizing on the popularity of the "boxers" to sell their fight. So those fans who want something to watch, now you have one.  :P
But I believe, this will change soon. We are already seeing other sports coming to life again. It will be slow, but at least we are already starting...


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Welsh on February 11, 2021, 12:58:07 AM
Ben has been putting out some questionable sparring footage, but it seems to me that this might be an attempt to convince people hes worse than he actually is. If you look at his MMA footage, then you'll clearly see that hes not a recognized striker, however he's definitely throwing better than his recent footage shows.

So it looks like this fight is going to happen before the Mayweather fight now?  I feel like the ground is crumbling beneath these weird 'celebrity' matches.  I sure hope we get to see some actual exciting matchups before this fad disappears into nonexistence.  I feel like Jose Canseco's pathetic dive knockout might have signaled the peak of this nonsense, but I sure hope we see some big 200+pounder get a crack at Mayweather before all is said and done.
Yeah, Logan Paul I believe was on record stating that there's behind the scenes "business" that needs addressing. So, I'm not actually sure what this could mean. I think there's been speculation that they are waiting for the result of Jake Paul vs Ben, and Mayweather might fancy Jake instead if he is to perform well as it would likely bring in more money.

I don't mind the white collar boxing, as its pretty good for the sport in general. However, I don't like how frequent it seems to be getting. There's also the worlds strongest men boxing event going on later in the year, which I'm particularly excited about, but it'll likely be a snooze fest, watching two big men tire quickly.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on February 17, 2021, 10:19:55 PM
A lost cause for Mr. Ben right here, whatever people may tell or say about Jake Paul, he's just a YouTuber, and if in the case he wins against Askren, Ben's reputation among the people and the media will be utterly devastated. Whereas if he wins there's not much to say since the guy is a YouTuber. Still, I'd like to see how this fight will pan out despite me not being a fan of both personalities.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: AmoreJaz on February 17, 2021, 10:36:34 PM
A lost cause for Mr. Ben right here, whatever people may tell or say about Jake Paul, he's just a YouTuber, and if in the case he wins against Askren, Ben's reputation among the people and the media will be utterly devastated. Whereas if he wins there's not much to say since the guy is a YouTuber. Still, I'd like to see how this fight will pan out despite me not being a fan of both personalities.

tbh, i dont think many boxing fans will buy the PPV of this match. most of them will just wait for the free live streaming over the net. this fight should be easy for askren. and yes, if he will defeated by Jake Paul, dont think he has good future in boxing. but is this match going to push thru no matter how much is their possible income or will it just be like the mayweather-logan paul canceled fight?


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: notblox1 on February 17, 2021, 10:52:28 PM
Oh please, give me a break... I see that youtuber Jake Paul is predicting he will knock out Ben Askren quickly in boxing match :)
I am not a fan of Ben Askren at all and  I didn't like all his trash talk in UFC, but he was still a champ in Bellator and Jake Paul is not caliber like Masvidal to knock anyone out after only few boxing matches in his life, but I mean anything can happen if fight is fixed or judges decide like in last Tyson fight. Anyone remembers that?

This is Jake Paul reading poem to Floyd Mayweather:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZB7_lcWjz4


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Russlenat on February 17, 2021, 11:18:11 PM
Oh please, give me a break... I see that youtuber Jake Paul is predicting he will knock out Ben Askren quickly in boxing match :)
I am not a fan of Ben Askren at all and  I didn't like all his trash talk in UFC, but he was still a champ in Bellator and Jake Paul is not caliber like Masvidal to knock anyone out after only few boxing matches in his life, but I mean anything can happen if fight is fixed or judges decide like in last Tyson fight. Anyone remembers that?

This is Jake Paul reading poem to Floyd Mayweather:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZB7_lcWjz4

UFC is different from boxing, Jake Paul had proven that he can knock out anyone with his 2 wins by KO.

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/912383

He is now a pro already and I guess he is not joking just to sell the fight, and checking on the odds, he is the favorites to win in this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: AliMan on February 17, 2021, 11:27:30 PM
A lost cause for Mr. Ben right here, whatever people may tell or say about Jake Paul, he's just a YouTuber, and if in the case he wins against Askren, Ben's reputation among the people and the media will be utterly devastated. Whereas if he wins there's not much to say since the guy is a YouTuber. Still, I'd like to see how this fight will pan out despite me not being a fan of both personalities.

We can't only rely on how it was said or analyze though youtube reviews or something else. What's important is the reality of the game on how it's going to be the outcome when Mr. Ben and Jake Paul would perform on their match. Let's see how they'll able to throw punches in order to beat each other, and it's going to be a big fight for both of them. I'm not looking for the hype right now, need to see some heavy strikes and be entertained with their moves.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: notblox1 on February 17, 2021, 11:47:12 PM
UFC is different from boxing, Jake Paul had proven that he can knock out anyone with his 2 wins by KO.
What do you mean with "knock out anyone"?
Maybe 36 years old Nate Robinson who had one fight in his entire life, not counting fighting in school 20 years ago.
Or maybe young 24 year old Ali Eson Gib with also had single fight in his life against Jake.
This circus is freely available on youtube for everyone to see.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: nitrobetting on February 18, 2021, 12:03:59 AM
I agree with Ben Askren not being known for his striking/boxing knockout skills. He isn't just an explosive fighter.

However, he is known for his wrestling and that includes technical knowledge that might resonate when it comes to tie-ups.

I know many of us view it as an Olympian vs. Youtuber fight and chances are Ben Askren might get knocked out on this one. This is good money-making fight though.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: notblox1 on March 11, 2021, 08:05:10 PM
Dana White wants to bet 1 million dollars on Ben Askren win in fight against Jake Paul, and he said it in public on Hotboxin’ with Mike Tyson podcast, and I would agree with him.
Listen 20-ish minute long interesting interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlEanMtx0vc


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: TheNineClub on March 11, 2021, 08:26:07 PM
Dana White wants to bet 1 million dollars on Ben Askren win in fight against Jake Paul, and he said it in public on Hotboxin’ with Mike Tyson podcast, and I would agree with him.
Listen 20-ish minute long interesting interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlEanMtx0vc

So basically like me betting 10 dollars on the fight :D Not really reassuring Dana. I'm not really sure he should get involved in this because it just fuels the flame of the whole Boxing vs MMA, Pro Fighter vs Amateur Fighter narrative, and MMA just does not need that anymore. It's not the 90's and these are not Gracie gyms where different styles came to prove themselves. Glad Ben is getting paid, besides that, meh. 


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: ene1980 on March 11, 2021, 08:56:29 PM
Dana White wants to bet 1 million dollars on Ben Askren win in fight against Jake Paul, and he said it in public on Hotboxin’ with Mike Tyson podcast, and I would agree with him.
Dana White has the money to back his fighter even though Ben Askren and Dana White never had a great relationship. Jake Paul is a social media sensation but Dana White refuses to expect that and he is boxing for a long time while Ben Askren is training for a boxing bout for the first time in his life. I will only bet for over rounds as i am not expecting a knockout.

The third person was irritating in the podcast and if there was only Dana White and Mike Tyson it would have been great.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: AmoreJaz on March 11, 2021, 09:23:59 PM
Dana White wants to bet 1 million dollars on Ben Askren win in fight against Jake Paul, and he said it in public on Hotboxin’ with Mike Tyson podcast, and I would agree with him.
Dana White has the money to back his fighter even though Ben Askren and Dana White never had a great relationship. Jake Paul is a social media sensation but Dana White refuses to expect that and he is boxing for a long time while Ben Askren is training for a boxing bout for the first time in his life. I will only bet for over rounds as i am not expecting a knockout.

The third person was irritating in the podcast and if there was only Dana White and Mike Tyson it would have been great.

they need something to discuss about this fight to sell this to the public. so i guess, dana white betting 1M dollars on Ben will create some interest from boxing fans. because we know, this match will not be a hit in the boxing community if there is no controversial issues or topics to talk about.
i bet, they are crossing their fingers not to cancel this bout for some financial reasons.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Vaculin on March 11, 2021, 10:57:32 PM
Dana White wants to bet 1 million dollars on Ben Askren win in fight against Jake Paul, and he said it in public on Hotboxin’ with Mike Tyson podcast, and I would agree with him.
Dana White has the money to back his fighter even though Ben Askren and Dana White never had a great relationship. Jake Paul is a social media sensation but Dana White refuses to expect that and he is boxing for a long time while Ben Askren is training for a boxing bout for the first time in his life. I will only bet for over rounds as i am not expecting a knockout.

The third person was irritating in the podcast and if there was only Dana White and Mike Tyson it would have been great.

For me, I will look at the betting odds first before I will decide. Jake Paul has 100% KO rate but with few fights only and I think this is the toughest fight of his career as a boxer so I expect this fight to reach the judges scorecard, I'm thinking of betting on the underdog which is Ben Askren, what do you think his chances in this fight?

nice odds

https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/jake-paul-vs-ben-askren-odds-betting-preview-and-prediction

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Fighter   Odds
Jake Paul   -265
Ben Askren   +205


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: owengtam09 on March 12, 2021, 06:08:36 AM
What is happening to the world of sports now? why do we have a lot of clown who try to ruined the reputation of the sport?

A YouTuber fighting an ex MMA fighter, I don't like what I'm seeing anymore, sorry, but I feel like they are trying to make a circus in the sports just to make money. They use their popularity to influence their followers so they can get some money by supporting their fight. Unreal, the Logan brothers are really focus on boxing now than on their youtube channel.

The set up is now different, start making yourself popular on youtube so you can be a boxer.  ::)
For sure it is all about money and fame. I don't think we must need to support this kind of sports that is just making for money but yeah if we win in our bet then that will be good for us as well but maybe by not supporting this kind of sports, they will think about if they will going to do this again or it should be the 1st and final. But I agree that this is a money-making fight. Olympian vs Youtuber fight, I don't think Ben Askren will gonna make it.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Natalim on March 12, 2021, 10:16:46 AM
What is happening to the world of sports now? why do we have a lot of clown who try to ruined the reputation of the sport?

A YouTuber fighting an ex MMA fighter, I don't like what I'm seeing anymore, sorry, but I feel like they are trying to make a circus in the sports just to make money. They use their popularity to influence their followers so they can get some money by supporting their fight. Unreal, the Logan brothers are really focus on boxing now than on their youtube channel.

The set up is now different, start making yourself popular on youtube so you can be a boxer.  ::)
For sure it is all about money and fame. I don't think we must need to support this kind of sports that is just making for money but yeah if we win in our bet then that will be good for us as well but maybe by not supporting this kind of sports, they will think about if they will going to do this again or it should be the 1st and final. But I agree that this is a money-making fight. Olympian vs Youtuber fight, I don't think Ben Askren will gonna make it.

Supporting this is through buying a PPV and with lack of support, this fight will not happen and when there's no fight, we won't be able to bet on this fight. We need some people to support it, just to fulfill our desire to bets on this game although we will not buy the PPV. lol


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Kelvinid on March 12, 2021, 11:49:40 AM
What is happening to the world of sports now? why do we have a lot of clown who try to ruined the reputation of the sport?

A YouTuber fighting an ex MMA fighter, I don't like what I'm seeing anymore, sorry, but I feel like they are trying to make a circus in the sports just to make money. They use their popularity to influence their followers so they can get some money by supporting their fight. Unreal, the Logan brothers are really focus on boxing now than on their youtube channel.

The set up is now different, start making yourself popular on youtube so you can be a boxer.  ::)
For sure it is all about money and fame. I don't think we must need to support this kind of sports that is just making for money but yeah if we win in our bet then that will be good for us as well but maybe by not supporting this kind of sports, they will think about if they will going to do this again or it should be the 1st and final. But I agree that this is a money-making fight. Olympian vs Youtuber fight, I don't think Ben Askren will gonna make it.

Supporting this is through buying a PPV and with lack of support, this fight will not happen and when there's no fight, we won't be able to bet on this fight. We need some people to support it, just to fulfill our desire to bets on this game although we will not buy the PPV. lol

I would not buy a PPV either but if I have to choose between this fight and Mayweather vs any celebrity, I would choose this as it's the better one. This is a fight of a non boxing champion, so it's a fair fight and it could be fun compared to any Mayweather's exhibition fights.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: ene1980 on March 12, 2021, 06:41:42 PM
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they need something to discuss about this fight to sell this to the public. so i guess, dana white betting 1M dollars on Ben will create some interest from boxing fans. because we know, this match will not be a hit in the boxing community if there is no controversial issues or topics to talk about.
i bet, they are crossing their fingers not to cancel this bout for some financial reasons.
Dana White is not promoting the fight a Ben Askren already retired and Dana White has nothing to do with the event as it is an exhibition bout. Jake Paul usually attracts huge crowds and that is the reason he picked Ben Askren because he also promotes the fight well and we can see the battle in social media and these are done to create interest.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Twinkledoe on March 12, 2021, 08:53:16 PM
What is happening to the world of sports now? why do we have a lot of clown who try to ruined the reputation of the sport?

A YouTuber fighting an ex MMA fighter, I don't like what I'm seeing anymore, sorry, but I feel like they are trying to make a circus in the sports just to make money. They use their popularity to influence their followers so they can get some money by supporting their fight. Unreal, the Logan brothers are really focus on boxing now than on their youtube channel.

The set up is now different, start making yourself popular on youtube so you can be a boxer.  ::)
For sure it is all about money and fame. I don't think we must need to support this kind of sports that is just making for money but yeah if we win in our bet then that will be good for us as well but maybe by not supporting this kind of sports, they will think about if they will going to do this again or it should be the 1st and final. But I agree that this is a money-making fight. Olympian vs Youtuber fight, I don't think Ben Askren will gonna make it.

Supporting this is through buying a PPV and with lack of support, this fight will not happen and when there's no fight, we won't be able to bet on this fight. We need some people to support it, just to fulfill our desire to bets on this game although we will not buy the PPV. lol

I would not buy a PPV either but if I have to choose between this fight and Mayweather vs any celebrity, I would choose this as it's the better one. This is a fight of a non boxing champion, so it's a fair fight and it could be fun compared to any Mayweather's exhibition fights.

At least, these two will try to fight each other unlike Mayweather, who will just run away and count inside the ring. I don't think this will attract large crowd as there are now better fights coming up. But for added entertainment in boxing, better than nothing, right? I believe later on this year, we won't see much of this kind of fight as more real boxers are making schedule of their respective fights.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Myleschetty on March 12, 2021, 11:08:08 PM
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they need something to discuss about this fight to sell this to the public. so i guess, dana white betting 1M dollars on Ben will create some interest from boxing fans. because we know, this match will not be a hit in the boxing community if there is no controversial issues or topics to talk about.
i bet, they are crossing their fingers not to cancel this bout for some financial reasons.
Dana White is not promoting the fight a Ben Askren already retired and Dana White has nothing to do with the event as it is an exhibition bout. Jake Paul usually attracts huge crowds and that is the reason he picked Ben Askren because he also promotes the fight well and we can see the battle in social media and these are done to create interest.
Yes,  Ben Askren is retired but you don't understand what he said cause he was talking about Dana White's promise to bet $1 dollars on Ben Askren for the upcoming fight against Jake Paul.
Him betting $1M on the mean he indirectly promotes the fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: bbc.reporter on March 15, 2021, 02:47:36 AM
Dana White wants to bet 1 million dollars on Ben Askren win in fight against Jake Paul, and he said it in public on Hotboxin’ with Mike Tyson podcast, and I would agree with him.
Listen 20-ish minute long interesting interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlEanMtx0vc

Rapper Snoop Dogg has challenged uncle Dana for a bet of $2 million hehehe. I speculate that Dana might be betting on the loser for this fight. Ben Askren’s punches appeared to be one of the slowest in MMA.



“Hey Dana White, I see you got faith in your boy right? Going up against my guy Jake,” Snoop said per TMZ. “You say you got a million? You’re the CEO of UFC. You got more than a million. Put up TWO. Put up $2 million and we’ll match it.”

https://www.complex.com/sports/snoop-dogg-dana-white-2-million-bet-jake-paul-ben-askren-fight




In anycase, Ben Askren is training with Freddy Roach hehehehehe. There might be hope for this kid.



Boxing legend Freddie Roach is a busy man, and his next mixed martial arts fighter to train is Ben Askren in preparation for his big fight with Jake Paul.

Source https://www.mmanews.com/2021/03/ben-askren-recruits-boxing-legend-freddie-roach-to-train-for-jake-paul-2/


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: yazher on March 15, 2021, 04:10:19 AM
Rapper Snoop Dogg has challenged uncle Dana for a bet of $2 million hehehe. I speculate that Dana might be betting on the loser for this fight. Ben Askren’s punches appeared to be one of the slowest in MMA.

“Hey Dana White, I see you got faith in your boy right? Going up against my guy Jake,” Snoop said per TMZ. “You say you got a million? You’re the CEO of UFC. You got more than a million. Put up TWO. Put up $2 million and we’ll match it.”

https://www.complex.com/sports/snoop-dogg-dana-white-2-million-bet-jake-paul-ben-askren-fight

In anycase, Ben Askren is training with Freddy Roach hehehehehe. There might be hope for this kid.

Boxing legend Freddie Roach is a busy man, and his next mixed martial arts fighter to train is Ben Askren in preparation for his big fight with Jake Paul.

Source https://www.mmanews.com/2021/03/ben-askren-recruits-boxing-legend-freddie-roach-to-train-for-jake-paul-2/

This kind of scene most likely happens when the fight is close and only a few people talk about it. they need to create something both the boxing and MMA fans want. In short, this is just for hype because maybe the fight won't attract as many audiences as they expected before. Man, we need to know that these guys are just doing their own business and by doing so they also need some huge capital like what we have seen in this so-called offer.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: bbc.reporter on March 16, 2021, 03:25:28 AM
@yazher. It did not appear to be hype from Dana White. He was asked by the interviewer on his thoughts on the boxing match and Dana’s argument was that Ben Askren was a collegiate wrestler and an MMA fighter while Jake Paul is only a youtuber.

It was Snoop Dogg’s challenge that turned this into hype by sportsnews media. I like it hehehe. I did not much like Tyson versus Jones Jr., however this one I will watch.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Baofeng on March 26, 2021, 10:48:32 PM
Speaking of the Paul vs Askren Press Conference, Oscar Dela Hoya showed up, and guess what? He announced that he will be back July 3, whether exhibition match or not.

here is the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR27PT5hBIw


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on March 27, 2021, 02:00:27 AM
I watched some highlights from the press conference and things got heated. The fighters got physically aggressive but to me it just seems like it might be staged to hype the fight.

Regarding the Oscar de la Hoya announcement, I wonder who his opponent will be. He has previously mentioned GGG's name but he will get seriously hurt if that ever happens.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Yaunfitda on March 27, 2021, 11:28:03 AM
I watched some highlights from the press conference and things got heated. The fighters got physically aggressive but to me it just seems like it might be staged to hype the fight.
Yes, it seems that it was stage to really bring more hype in this fight.

Regarding the Oscar de la Hoya announcement, I wonder who his opponent will be. He has previously mentioned GGG's name but he will get seriously hurt if that ever happens.
GGG is one on Oscar's list, he has trim down as of late, probably will be fighting 160 lbs which I say will be his fighting or natural weight. I wouldn't be surprised if he goes what Tyson did, probably a exhibition match first before targeting GGG, but it will be a suicide for him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: pilosopotasyo on March 27, 2021, 11:31:00 AM


Regarding the Oscar de la Hoya announcement, I wonder who his opponent will be. He has previously mentioned GGG's name but he will get seriously hurt if that ever happens.

I hope someone influential or very close to him stop him from coming back, he is insane to go back and fight GGG, it's like suicide and GGG mentioned that he could kill Dela Hoya if he challenged him, if he wants to make a comeback take a tune-up fight and fight an amateur fighter so we including him can judge if he still have it.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Kemarit on March 28, 2021, 01:30:26 AM


Regarding the Oscar de la Hoya announcement, I wonder who his opponent will be. He has previously mentioned GGG's name but he will get seriously hurt if that ever happens.

I hope someone influential or very close to him stop him from coming back, he is insane to go back and fight GGG, it's like suicide and GGG mentioned that he could kill Dela Hoya if he challenged him, if he wants to make a comeback take a tune-up fight and fight an amateur fighter so we including him can judge if he still have it.

I don't know if he will pick GGG in his comeback fight, doesn't make sense, and Oscar knows that. Maybe he just wanted to hype him name again specially that Canelo has left him.

Most likely it will be a exhibition match since we are still in the pandemic, and I'm sure it will be something influential, similar to what we are witnessing right now. Youtube sensation vs MMA fighter.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: TheNineClub on March 28, 2021, 05:40:28 AM
Here is the full press conference if anyone is interested https://youtu.be/660g2350L8s

I honestly had no idea that Frank Mir was fighting. Seriously, Why? Does he really need more punches to the head? Even the decision to fight in BKFC is idiotic, no matter what the money is.

And Paul should really work on his verbal skills if he really wants to continue with this.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: TopTort777 on March 30, 2021, 08:06:11 PM
And Paul should really work on his verbal skills if he really wants to continue with this.

He lives in his own world :D He is not a pro boxer or a fighter, but is seems that he had taken that knee from Masvidal which hugely impacted on his mental capacity.

I like this compilation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1mtm15ghpk :D Specially 2:54-2:57 part


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: TheNineClub on April 01, 2021, 08:05:06 AM
And Paul should really work on his verbal skills if he really wants to continue with this.

He lives in his own world :D He is not a pro boxer or a fighter, but is seems that he had taken that knee from Masvidal which hugely impacted on his mental capacity.

I like this compilation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1mtm15ghpk :D Specially 2:54-2:57 part

He might not be any of those things, but he is however a public persona that makes money from talking, so him having such low verbal skills and wit to bring something to the table is like saying that a pro boxer can't jab (well, there are some that can't XD).  This link that you posted is so hard to watch :) It might have lowered my IQ by at least 50%. All boxing skills aside, it's sad to see that he can't sell a fight. It would be hard to think he would be able to sell water in the desert at this point.

On the other hand :) https://fb.watch/4Be1kzKrps/


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: DeathAngel on April 01, 2021, 08:51:25 AM
Definitely rooting for Ben Askren in this fight, kinda feeling sick of the Paul brothers & the constant whoring they do all over social media. It’s annoying & I’d love to see one of them KO’d ASAP.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Questat on April 01, 2021, 11:06:15 AM
Definitely rooting for Ben Askren in this fight, kinda feeling sick of the Paul brothers & the constant whoring they do all over social media. It’s annoying & I’d love to see one of them KO’d ASAP.

haha.. I feel the same, lol..

Any update about the betting odds of this fight, is it available already in our favorite sportsbook in the forum?

Saw the odds here
https://www.oddschecker.com/us/picks-parlays/boxing/boxing/20210330-jake-paul-vs-ben-askren-betting-preview-picks-and-predictions-askren-to-upset-the-odds

https://i.imgur.com/s7NeK19.png


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: YuginKadoya on April 01, 2021, 12:57:30 PM
Definitely rooting for Ben Askren in this fight, kinda feeling sick of the Paul brothers & the constant whoring they do all over social media. It’s annoying & I’d love to see one of them KO’d ASAP.

haha.. I feel the same, lol..

Any update about the betting odds of this fight, is it available already in our favorite sportsbook in the forum?

Saw the odds here
https://www.oddschecker.com/us/picks-parlays/boxing/boxing/20210330-jake-paul-vs-ben-askren-betting-preview-picks-and-predictions-askren-to-upset-the-odds

https://i.imgur.com/s7NeK19.png


There are no Boxing Bets for Stake.com or maybe this is on the special events I don't know, well it is obvious that Ben Askren can dominate Jake Paul in the ring event though this is not the usual octagon Askren perform from, I think that Askren had that experience base on his previous fights in the Octagon and I think he had some training as well with boxing, But there is this vibe that I am feeling that Jake Paul might surprise us but it will sure dependent on his training.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Botnake on April 01, 2021, 01:08:51 PM
There are no Boxing Bets for Stake.com or maybe this is on the special events I don't know, well it is obvious that Ben Askren can dominate Jake Paul in the ring event though this is not the usual octagon Askren perform from, I think that Askren had that experience base on his previous fights in the Octagon and I think he had some training as well with boxing, But there is this vibe that I am feeling that Jake Paul might surprise us but it will sure dependent on his training.

This is not a big fight or a popular fight, usually the odds are available one day before the fight, let's just wait a day before April 17, 2021 the scheduled fight, or if it will be release early, please anyone can share in this thread so we will be aware as soon as the odds are up.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: electronicash on April 01, 2021, 01:43:33 PM
Definitely rooting for Ben Askren in this fight, kinda feeling sick of the Paul brothers & the constant whoring they do all over social media. It’s annoying & I’d love to see one of them KO’d ASAP.

can't even understand why he has got a ton of followers. this fight was announced in January so 3 months of training must be enough for Askren. this time there is no flying knees that will knock him instantly. but i hope he got the stamina to last up to round 8. Paul does have a boxing record though it's just 2 fights, he does have boxing skill that for sure.



Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: TopTort777 on April 01, 2021, 03:24:00 PM
On the other hand :) https://fb.watch/4Be1kzKrps/

https://i.imgur.com/5fIH37i.png

I have a feeling that Paul thinks that this is all a joke and he wont be hit with full strength. We all know Askren striking skills, he will be punching Paul all 8 rounds. Not because he wants to teach him a lesson for his big mouth, but because they are weak :D Hope this fight will teach Paul that pro athlete from any sports where punches and kick are involved is different from a regular guy.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Questat on April 02, 2021, 09:10:45 AM
There are no Boxing Bets for Stake.com or maybe this is on the special events I don't know,
We will know as the fight is getting closer.

well it is obvious that Ben Askren can dominate Jake Paul in the ring event though this is not the usual octagon Askren perform from, I think that Askren had that experience base on his previous fights in the Octagon and I think he had some training as well with boxing, But there is this vibe that I am feeling that Jake Paul might surprise us but it will sure dependent on his training.

What is obvious is that  Jake Paul will dominate based on the betting odds, this is boxing and its not UFC, so it's a differnet fight and Jake Paul has an advantage as he has won his previous fights. This is like a Mayweather vs Mcgreggor, but maybe the outcome is not the same.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: OgNasty on April 05, 2021, 12:55:52 AM
Getting close now.  I'm seeing commercials featuring the artists who will be performing at the event... 

I really don't like this fight.  Jake Paul seemed to pick the weakest professional fighter he could find when it comes to boxing, and then made sure he suffered recent injuries to give himself a chance.  Seems like striving to grab the low hanging fruit, but that seems to be Jake's act.  I think while I'd love to see Logan knock out Floyd, I wouldn't mind seeing Ben take out Jake.  :)


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Lorence.xD on April 05, 2021, 06:00:44 AM
Getting close now.  I'm seeing commercials featuring the artists who will be performing at the event... 

I really don't like this fight.  Jake Paul seemed to pick the weakest professional fighter he could find when it comes to boxing, and then made sure he suffered recent injuries to give himself a chance.  Seems like striving to grab the low hanging fruit, but that seems to be Jake's act.  I think while I'd love to see Logan knock out Floyd, I wouldn't mind seeing Ben take out Jake.  :)
This event is going to be big considering that Jake Paul is going to have a lot of his supporters that are going to watch this fight. We all have our preferences when it comes to entertainment so I get you and cut the guy some slack since he is weak too so it is natural to choose a fighter at around or close to his level.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: DoublerHunter on April 05, 2021, 10:57:42 AM
^ Judging it by the stats, it seems like Jake Paul is on its advantage against his opponent. They are indeed not that familiar to me but we can see how passionate they both are. But for now, we cannot also judge the underdog yet. It is not about size anyway but we will cross the bridge when we get there.
Nevertheless, the fight was almost there and we are getting closer, for those who are not familiar with these boxers, please do not place bets without any idea on which one would possibly win. Try to check their highlights before deciding. Good luck!


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: TopTort777 on April 05, 2021, 11:19:59 AM
^ Judging it by the stats, it seems like Jake Paul is on its advantage against his opponent. They are indeed not that familiar to me but we can see how passionate they both are. But for now, we cannot also judge the underdog yet. It is not about size anyway but we will cross the bridge when we get there.
Nevertheless, the fight was almost there and we are getting closer, for those who are not familiar with these boxers, please do not place bets without any idea on which one would possibly win. Try to check their highlights before deciding. Good luck!

Askren is an underdog? Because he is not good at striking ? "with these boxers" - among them Askren is a more boxer, while Paul is a joker :D
To me it is clear that one is a professional fighter, other is a youtube clown. Looks clear who will win, coz I never heard that Askren has a crystal jaw.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Natalim on April 05, 2021, 11:53:09 AM
^ Judging it by the stats, it seems like Jake Paul is on its advantage against his opponent. They are indeed not that familiar to me but we can see how passionate they both are. But for now, we cannot also judge the underdog yet. It is not about size anyway but we will cross the bridge when we get there.
Nevertheless, the fight was almost there and we are getting closer, for those who are not familiar with these boxers, please do not place bets without any idea on which one would possibly win. Try to check their highlights before deciding. Good luck!

Askren is an underdog? Because he is not good at striking ? "with these boxers" - among them Askren is a more boxer, while Paul is a joker :D
To me it is clear that one is a professional fighter, other is a youtube clown. Looks clear who will win, coz I never heard that Askren has a crystal jaw.

That's what the line is saying, we can't debate on that, Askren does not have a win in boxing yet, but Jake Paul has 2 wins and all coming from KO.

See it here https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/912383.. this guy is not a joker.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: 7788bitcoin on April 05, 2021, 11:37:03 PM
  I think while I'd love to see Logan knock out Floyd, I wouldn't mind seeing Ben take out Jake.  :)
Logan Paul is a pretty decent boxer but to fight against Floyd Mayweather and win is a difficult task for any boxer and i do not think that anyone can because his defense his impeccable and even at this age i do not see him loosing as he is still training even after retirement and he is not known to abuse his body even though the personality he portrays implies that  ;D. 

When it comes to Ben Askren i am confident that he could last all the rounds against Jake Paul and the only worry i have is that Ben Askren recently had a hip replacement surgery and i have not idea about his health situation, but his health is in perfect situation he could stand with Jake Paul and go the distance.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: TopTort777 on April 06, 2021, 01:10:33 PM
That's what the line is saying, we can't debate on that, Askren does not have a win in boxing yet, but Jake Paul has 2 wins and all coming from KO.

See it here https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/912383.. this guy is not a joker.

2 win huh? Against a youtuber and NBA player. Really not a joker. Btw, the reason I'm calling him a joker is because he will have a fight against a MMA fighter with 22-2 record and hundreds of wrestling matches. Even if he is not a boxer he is a professional fighter. While Paul is YouTuber, actor, social media influencer, professional boxer, rapper (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Paul), who, perhaps goes to the gym with his brother, punches bags and did some sparing.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: babygun on April 07, 2021, 10:48:08 AM

2 win huh? Against a youtuber and NBA player. Really not a joker. Btw, the reason I'm calling him a joker is because he will have a fight against a MMA fighter with 22-2 record and hundreds of wrestling matches. Even if he is not a boxer he is a professional fighter. While Paul is YouTuber, actor, social media influencer, professional boxer, rapper (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Paul), who, perhaps goes to the gym with his brother, punches bags and did some sparing.

Exactly, the guy is a joke! The 2 wins in boxing don't really count. Surprising to see that the bookmakers see Paul as favorite so will probably make some bets on Askren to win. Hopefully he can knock him out  ;D


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Reatim on April 07, 2021, 11:17:03 AM
https://i.imgur.com/UzHiaip.jpg

ESPN and Ariel Helwani just announced that Jake Paul will be fighting ex UFC/MMA fighter Ben Askren in eight round pro boxing match on April 17
I have no idea why Ben Askren would accept this match, because he was never known as a fighter with great boxing skills, and he was more known for his wrestling and grappling.

Fight is organized by Triller, same company that was promoting latest Mike Tyson fight against Roy Jones Junior.

Ben Askren UFC record 19-2
Jake Paul boxing record 2-0


So 10 days to come , are you ready for your betting? have decided which one will be your Boxer?

Surely i will be for much experience boxer , though the Age is a little difference yet I will go for Ben Askren here.

_____________________________

But of course I will only bet small funds because I am looking for the exhibition fight of Cotto and Marquez  ;D


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Questat on April 07, 2021, 11:53:39 AM
But of course I will only bet small funds because I am looking for the exhibition fight of Cotto and Marquez  ;D

Cotto vs Marquez exhibition fight is not confirm yet, I guess that was just a rumor since there's no schedule yet on when these two will fight, and If I'm not mistaken, they have not sign any contract yet, so we need to wait for that. This fight will happen per schedule but I believe this isn't as exciting as other fighters who really are champions and had and exhibition fights soon.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: TopTort777 on April 07, 2021, 12:56:11 PM
Exactly, the guy is a joke! The 2 wins in boxing don't really count. Surprising to see that the bookmakers see Paul as favorite so will probably make some bets on Askren to win. Hopefully he can knock him out  ;D

Jake Paul 2 fight in boxing equals my 2 fights after school :D Difference is we did not wear gloves and were in different weight division.
It is known, that Askren dont have a knockout power, that is why he will TKO him. I'm 99.9% sure that this fight will end in 3 round by TKO. Ref wont allow Askren to finish Paul brutally, coz this is just an exhibition fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: babygun on April 07, 2021, 02:32:55 PM
Exactly, the guy is a joke! The 2 wins in boxing don't really count. Surprising to see that the bookmakers see Paul as favorite so will probably make some bets on Askren to win. Hopefully he can knock him out  ;D

Jake Paul 2 fight in boxing equals my 2 fights after school :D Difference is we did not wear gloves and were in different weight division.
It is known, that Askren dont have a knockout power, that is why he will TKO him. I'm 99.9% sure that this fight will end in 3 round by TKO. Ref wont allow Askren to finish Paul brutally, coz this is just an exhibition fight.

Lol, a TKO is also good with me  ;). The only problem with betting huge on this match is that it is an exhibition fight and that for some dark reasons this match can still end in a draw, even if Askren dominates the fight. Look at the match of Tyson vs Roy Jones jr, Tyson was the better man and deserved to win but still the fight ended in a draw...


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: cabron on April 07, 2021, 04:38:48 PM
Exactly, the guy is a joke! The 2 wins in boxing don't really count. Surprising to see that the bookmakers see Paul as favorite so will probably make some bets on Askren to win. Hopefully he can knock him out  ;D

Jake Paul 2 fight in boxing equals my 2 fights after school :D Difference is we did not wear gloves and were in different weight division.
It is known, that Askren dont have a knockout power, that is why he will TKO him. I'm 99.9% sure that this fight will end in 3 round by TKO. Ref wont allow Askren to finish Paul brutally, coz this is just an exhibition fight.

Lol, a TKO is also good with me  ;). The only problem with betting huge on this match is that it is an exhibition fight and that for some dark reasons this match can still end in a draw, even if Askren dominates the fight. Look at the match of Tyson vs Roy Jones jr, Tyson was the better man and deserved to win but still the fight ended in a draw...

Seen it, Jones didn't feel the contempt. It could really end up like its a draw in the end. But I hope the emotions will follow. Fans badly want to injure Jake Paul.
Not gonna bet on exhibition fights, it mere and entertainment.

What is more entertaining are the ones who can brutally knock like Conor. Not this Paul who probably prefers to face the camera all day to go live on youtube and create NFT for sale.



Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: TopTort777 on April 08, 2021, 11:11:37 AM
The only problem with betting huge on this match is that it is an exhibition fight and that for some dark reasons this match can still end in a draw

I would not bet much on this fight either. I think it is really going to end like Tyson vs RJJ fight, when it was obvious that Tyson was winning, but due to exhibition fight, it ended with a draw. And "UFC president Dana White claimed he would bet 1 million USD" is just a clickbait imho.

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Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: AmoreJaz on April 08, 2021, 07:20:23 PM
The only problem with betting huge on this match is that it is an exhibition fight and that for some dark reasons this match can still end in a draw

I would not bet much on this fight either. I think it is really going to end like Tyson vs RJJ fight, when it was obvious that Tyson was winning, but due to exhibition fight, it ended with a draw. And "UFC president Dana White claimed he would bet 1 million USD" is just a clickbait imho.

create NFT for sale.

This is actually a great idea. Ben could really do that, as he is not new to cryptocurrency.

not real boxing fights like this is really not worth to bet on imo. you cant expect those judges to be strict with their scoring. anyway, i thought this one has the chance to be cancelled also but it seems this will gonna push thru. wonder if askren will use his wrestling strategies here in this boxing match? lol


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: eaLiTy on April 08, 2021, 09:05:43 PM
I would not bet much on this fight either. I think it is really going to end like Tyson vs RJJ fight, when it was obvious that Tyson was winning, but due to exhibition fight, it ended with a draw. And "UFC president Dana White claimed he would bet 1 million USD" is just a clickbait imho.
Dana White actually said that in a podcast with Mike Tyson and with another person who knew Jake Paul and was claiming it is be an impossible task for Ben Askren to defeat him and to counter that Dana White said he would bet a million dollar that Ben Askren would win as he is a world class fighter and Jake Paul is nothing but a internet sensation. Dana White is not getting any money with the exhibition bout and he was simply standing up for Ben Askren even though they never had the best relation when Ben Askren was fighting.

 


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Welsh on April 08, 2021, 10:03:06 PM
It would end up in a draw, unless its justified. The Mike Tyson fight had a reason to be a draw, it was for charity, and it had a good feeling sort of vibe towards the whole night. I do think Tyson was up for much of that fight, and probably did win, but there you are.

This isn't for charity though, and it isn't ending in a draw, unless its that close. I don't see it being close though, its either going to be Jake Paul punching Ben in the face all night, and Ben just pressuring or Ben is going to show him exactly what it means to have experience at the elite level. I don't care what people say, and Yeah I've doubted Ben Askrens punching ability, but the mans a dog, and he can take a punch. He can't take knees, that's been well established, but he can take punches, more than Jake Paul will be able to give.

If you look at the recent press conferences, I think Ben is actually living rent free inside Jake paul's head right now. I do think the face palm was a little frustration from Ben, because of the constant interrupting Paul does, but it actually worked out for him. Jake lashed out, in a weak fashion, which either looked to be a rib shot or possibly even kidney shot. I haven't really looked back on it, but its a place where you can definitely catch someone off guard, but Ben looked unfazed, and the punch actually will have a physiological effect on Jake Paul. Ben won the conference by a mile, I noticed that Jake resorted to play ground level insults, and even quoted his brother Logal Paul, when he had the conference in London against KSI by saying "Look at the dick on this guy". This tells me, and I admit I might be looking into it too much, but this tells me that Jake has been effected by Ben calling him "Logan's little brother" rather than using his name, since Logan is in his mind, he feels like hes losing the press conference, and Ben is getting the better of him, so what does he do? He thinks what his older brother did to win the conference against KSI, and used a direct quote.

Jake just looked uncomfortable, constantly adjusting his hands, touching his nose like he was nervous or second guessing himself. Ben on the other hand was very chilled, maybe a little bit too laid back. You have to imagine, how will Jake who looked out of his comfort zone in that conference act when he's in the ring with Ben, who isn't going to stop coming forward until you put him down, and put him down for good.



Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: bbc.reporter on April 09, 2021, 02:37:43 AM
Ben Askren showed that he is training with Freddie Roach, Jorge Masvidal is putting more salt on the knee knockout wound hehehe. Masvidal was seen helping Jake Paul with his boxing. This might only be for social media clickbait to create hype, however.



Ben Askren is stepping out of his comfort zone to try a boxing match. The long-time MMA fighter and former champion famously signed on to face YouTuber Jake Paul in a boxing match, despite never having boxed professionally. Paul is fairly new to the sport himself but has enlisted some help. He has been seen training with Jorge Masvidal in the lead-up to the bout with Askren. Masvidal of course holds a record-setting KO victory over Askren in the UFC. Askren isn’t happy to see Masvidal helping Paul prepare.

Source https://www.mmanews.com/2021/04/ben-askren-and-jorge-masvidal-feud/


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: OgNasty on April 09, 2021, 07:44:01 AM
It was cool of Logan Paul to have Ben Askren on his podcast. Ben seemed like a really nice guy and a lot of what he said made a lot of sense. I’m not sure how the fight will go down, but it seems like Askren was picked to be an easy win for Jake, and maybe that won’t be the case. It is cool seeing two sides sit down and be so confident in their position against each other. It made me more interested in watching the fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: TopTort777 on April 09, 2021, 12:40:43 PM
but it seems like Askren was picked to be an easy win for Jake.

That is strange. He could have picked any other retired fighter or a fighter with bad fighting record. Ben is only 1-2 in UFC, but his overall record in mma is 19-2-1.
I think that Jake picked Askren to hype on his loss by knee to Masvidal. I think that was Jakes problem. He wanted to hype (and sadly he would and earn a lot), but instead he will be beaten bad. Logan Paul already made a hype with his sparing against Paulo Costa and got KO'ed hard (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SARjMdZfX7s). Jake plans to repeat that. But this time they will be without head guard  :D We know that Askren is not famous for his heavy punches, but I'm sure he will beat the shit out of Jake.

Look how I see this fight will go - first round there will be nothing interesting, they will be just scouting. Second round, Askren will go forward, Jake will eat few punches and get dazed. When Askren will be about to finish dazed Jake, ref. will stop this fight. Jake will get his hype, Askren will get some money, but in general, Jake wont learn a lesson from it, coz ref will save him from receiving damage.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: OgNasty on April 09, 2021, 11:34:31 PM
but it seems like Askren was picked to be an easy win for Jake.

That is strange. He could have picked any other retired fighter or a fighter with bad fighting record. Ben is only 1-2 in UFC, but his overall record in mma is 19-2-1.
I think that Jake picked Askren to hype on his loss by knee to Masvidal. I think that was Jakes problem. He wanted to hype (and sadly he would and earn a lot), but instead he will be beaten bad. Logan Paul already made a hype with his sparing against Paulo Costa and got KO'ed hard (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SARjMdZfX7s). Jake plans to repeat that. But this time they will be without head guard  :D We know that Askren is not famous for his heavy punches, but I'm sure he will beat the shit out of Jake.

Look how I see this fight will go - first round there will be nothing interesting, they will be just scouting. Second round, Askren will go forward, Jake will eat few punches and get dazed. When Askren will be about to finish dazed Jake, ref. will stop this fight. Jake will get his hype, Askren will get some money, but in general, Jake wont learn a lesson from it, coz ref will save him from receiving damage.

Askren is a wrestler. He was picked because he’s considered the weakest puncher in professional fighting. He would kick Jake’s ass in wrestling or MMA without a doubt. He may kick his ass in boxing, but he was chosen specifically because boxing is his weakness and he is a respected fighter. You also have to understand he just had a serious hip injury and was out of shape before taking this fight.

Basically, Jake is boxing a retired wrestler coming off a major injury who wasn’t in shape. If he can’t win, I may have to admit that Logan has a 0% chance against Floyd.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: bbc.reporter on April 10, 2021, 07:52:41 AM
It was cool of Logan Paul to have Ben Askren on his podcast. Ben seemed like a really nice guy and a lot of what he said made a lot of sense. I’m not sure how the fight will go down, but it seems like Askren was picked to be an easy win for Jake, and maybe that won’t be the case. It is cool seeing two sides sit down and be so confident in their position against each other. It made me more interested in watching the fight.

Ben Askren is a also a very intelligent guy with a very sexy wife hehehe. Marrying someone like that implies self confidence.

In any case, this fight might not be easy. Askren is a real athlete. He was a collegiate wrestler and MMA fighter in Bellator, One and the UFC. He was also an Olympian. Jake Paul is only a youtuber.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: ene1980 on April 10, 2021, 11:22:47 PM
Askren is a wrestler. He was picked because he’s considered the weakest puncher in professional fighting. He would kick Jake’s ass in wrestling or MMA without a doubt. He may kick his ass in boxing, but he was chosen specifically because boxing is his weakness and he is a respected fighter. You also have to understand he just had a serious hip injury and was out of shape before taking this fight.
It is partially true that Ben Askren was selected because he is not known to be the best stand up fighter but the other aspect is that he is a good promoter and he will make the fight interesting as he knows how to promote the fight and even though he was not having a big voice when he was fighting outside the UFC he now has a following and i do think Askren is a great at defense and he never took that many hard punches in his MMA career.

Like you said the only thing that worries me to place a bet on this fight is his injuries and hip replacement surgeries are not easy and it will make a difference in your movement.


Basically, Jake is boxing a retired wrestler coming off a major injury who wasn’t in shape. If he can’t win, I may have to admit that Logan has a 0% chance against Floyd.
The fancy about Logan Paul and Floyd Mayweather is the huge size difference and everyone wants to see Floyd getting knocked out and everyone will be waiting to see an off day if that fight happens, if not Mayweather will school him ;D.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: OgNasty on April 11, 2021, 12:04:24 AM
Basically, Jake is boxing a retired wrestler coming off a major injury who wasn’t in shape. If he can’t win, I may have to admit that Logan has a 0% chance against Floyd.
The fancy about Logan Paul and Floyd Mayweather is the huge size difference and everyone wants to see Floyd getting knocked out and everyone will be waiting to see an off day if that fight happens, if not Mayweather will school him ;D.

I think Jake is quite a bit bigger then Ben too.  When Ben stood next to Logan on the podcast it was clear that he was much larger.  Jake might be listed at the same height as Ben, and Logan might only be listed as 3" taller, but I'm not sure I believe that.  Mayweather next to Logan is going to look ridiculous, but I think Ben next to Jake might look pretty silly too...  I guess we'll find out in a week, but I'm not sure I believe Askren is 5'11".


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Welsh on April 13, 2021, 03:31:50 PM
Askren is a wrestler. He was picked because he’s considered the weakest puncher in professional fighting. He would kick Jake’s ass in wrestling or MMA without a doubt. He may kick his ass in boxing, but he was chosen specifically because boxing is his weakness and he is a respected fighter. You also have to understand he just had a serious hip injury and was out of shape before taking this fight.

Basically, Jake is boxing a retired wrestler coming off a major injury who wasn’t in shape. If he can’t win, I may have to admit that Logan has a 0% chance against Floyd.
Askren at least wasn't Jake Paul's first choice which was Dillon Danis, probably because I'd argue he might be even worse than Ben Askren at throwing hands. Both are somewhat decorated wrestlers/BJJ. Jake also was looking ahead, and if he was to beat Dillon maybe he expected Conor to come out of the woodwork due to the fact they are somewhat close.

Logan Paul has a punchers chance, right? However, Mayweather has been in that ring with many killers, and Logan Paul is far from a killer. Mayweather will have enough experience, and will likely carry Logan for a few rounds to make a spectacle of out of it, but its very unlikely Logan lands anything meaningful on him. Boxing is generally more predictable than MMA or real fights. Logan's reach advantage isn't going to mean anything against Floyd.

Back to Askren, and Paul; I do think Askren might edge this, and surely with the odds being somewhat favourable for a punt on him hes got to be worth it simply because of the experience.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: DoublerHunter on April 13, 2021, 09:23:05 PM
^ The fight is almost there everyone may place their bets now. It's 4 days more left.
I was able to witness how these peeps fight from some of their matches Odds might favor Jake Paul. But probably, judging on how they fight and the strategy. I am seeing a draw on this fight and I was surprised when I saw the news that these two will have both feet within a ring together. It thrilled me as, before this, I have imagined how good the match would be if they are the fighters. Ben Askren has the very least advantage against Paul but we will never know what will happen. Just for me, it’s a draw. They are a match.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: AmoreJaz on April 13, 2021, 09:30:30 PM
^ The fight is almost there everyone may place their bets now. It's 4 days more left.
I was able to witness how these peeps fight from some of their matches Odds might favor Jake Paul. But probably, judging on how they fight and the strategy. I am seeing a draw on this fight and I was surprised when I saw the news that these two will have both feet within a ring together. It thrilled me as, before this, I have imagined how good the match would be if they are the fighters. Ben Askren has the very least advantage against Paul but we will never know what will happen. Just for me, it’s a draw. They are a match.

placed a small bet on jake paul here for my motivation to watch this fight.  ;D if paul will win this fight, will he ask for exhibition fight from mayweather? lol btw, at least this fight pushed thru as compared to his bro's fight against mayweather.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Welsh on April 15, 2021, 01:16:39 PM
placed a small bet on jake paul here for my motivation to watch this fight.  ;D if paul will win this fight, will he ask for exhibition fight from mayweather? lol btw, at least this fight pushed thru as compared to his bro's fight against mayweather.
Probably. It does seem like anyone can get a fight with Mayweather these days. Also, as far as I know Logan Paul VS Mayweather is still on its just been moved back a little bit. I believe Logan Paul is in his training camp right now. No idea if Mayweather even trains for these fights :D

The odds for this fight are closer than expected. Either fighter is probably worth the punt. I'm going with Askren via decision personally.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: 7788bitcoin on April 15, 2021, 03:40:32 PM
Ben Askren showed that he is training with Freddie Roach, Jorge Masvidal is putting more salt on the knee knockout wound hehehe. Masvidal was seen helping Jake Paul with his boxing. This might only be for social media clickbait to create hype, however.
It was just a show off by Ben Askren and from what i understand he just took a crash course of one week with Freddie Roach and it looks like it was done for the cameras if not what he is going to learn from one week of training with Freddie Roach. It is going to be a interesting fight and just a few days more and i have my doubts after listening to the routines of Ben Askren preparing for this bout .


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Welsh on April 16, 2021, 10:20:59 AM
Jake Paul might be a decent guy behind the scenes, and away from the cameras honestly, but his whole persona in front of the cameras annoy the hell out of me. However, you have to admit that this is exactly the reason why so many people will be watching this fight. They aren't interested in seeing Jake win, and if they were partial to Jake then they might not tune in at all. However, because he's built up such a reputation with his antics over the years, he's turned a lot of people against him, which means people want to see him lose, and he's taking advantage of that, and run away with the money. Whatever you say, you can't say the kid isn't smart, and a proper businessman.

However, his antics in the open workout the other day really annoyed me. As a fan, we like to look at how the fighters are looking leading up to their fight right? So he comes out with this warmup stretching routine, which offered nothing.

Jake Paul is a mastermind, I'm going for a Ben Askren TKO :D


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: OgNasty on April 16, 2021, 10:35:30 PM
Jake Paul might be a decent guy behind the scenes, and away from the cameras honestly, but his whole persona in front of the cameras annoy the hell out of me. However, you have to admit that this is exactly the reason why so many people will be watching this fight. They aren't interested in seeing Jake win, and if they were partial to Jake then they might not tune in at all. However, because he's built up such a reputation with his antics over the years, he's turned a lot of people against him, which means people want to see him lose, and he's taking advantage of that, and run away with the money. Whatever you say, you can't say the kid isn't smart, and a proper businessman.

However, his antics in the open workout the other day really annoyed me. As a fan, we like to look at how the fighters are looking leading up to their fight right? So he comes out with this warmup stretching routine, which offered nothing.

Jake Paul is a mastermind, I'm going for a Ben Askren TKO :D

I don't know anything about him behind the scenes.  He seems like he's riding his older brother's coattails, but he seems to be doing a rather good job being successful at it.  Now he's earning himself legitimate paydays or so it seems.  It he can pull out a W then I think it makes the Mayweather fight more interesting.

After seeing him being interviewed on Impaulsive, I actually like Ben Askren more than Jake Paul and my take on it is that Jake is a bully who is picking on the guy he thinks is the weakest.  Karma would make me think Jake deserves a loss, but we'll see how well his calculated decision to fight Askren turns out for him soon enough.  I'm just excited to see the fight for some reason.  Not really sure why.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Vaskiy on April 16, 2021, 10:48:20 PM
^ The fight is almost there everyone may place their bets now. It's 4 days more left.
I was able to witness how these peeps fight from some of their matches Odds might favor Jake Paul. But probably, judging on how they fight and the strategy. I am seeing a draw on this fight and I was surprised when I saw the news that these two will have both feet within a ring together. It thrilled me as, before this, I have imagined how good the match would be if they are the fighters. Ben Askren has the very least advantage against Paul but we will never know what will happen. Just for me, it’s a draw. They are a match.

placed a small bet on jake paul here for my motivation to watch this fight.  ;D if paul will win this fight, will he ask for exhibition fight from mayweather? lol btw, at least this fight pushed thru as compared to his bro's fight against mayweather.
You've made a small bet to keep yourself motivated watching this fight. Myself got motivated to watch this match due to a bet thats been placed by an user on Stake. I'm waiting for the day once after seeing the bet Jake Paul vs Ben Askren (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2072589.msg56777364#msg56777364)


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Russlenat on April 16, 2021, 10:57:30 PM
^ The fight is almost there everyone may place their bets now. It's 4 days more left.
I was able to witness how these peeps fight from some of their matches Odds might favor Jake Paul. But probably, judging on how they fight and the strategy. I am seeing a draw on this fight and I was surprised when I saw the news that these two will have both feet within a ring together. It thrilled me as, before this, I have imagined how good the match would be if they are the fighters. Ben Askren has the very least advantage against Paul but we will never know what will happen. Just for me, it’s a draw. They are a match.

placed a small bet on jake paul here for my motivation to watch this fight.  ;D if paul will win this fight, will he ask for exhibition fight from mayweather? lol btw, at least this fight pushed thru as compared to his bro's fight against mayweather.
You've made a small bet to keep yourself motivated watching this fight. Myself got motivated to watch this match due to a bet thats been placed by an user on Stake. I'm waiting for the day once after seeing the bet Jake Paul vs Ben Askren (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2072589.msg56777364#msg56777364)

That was a huge bet, 81k usd for the youtuber, wow... he really know sometihng or this guy is just playing around with the much btc he has profited during the bull run. It's hard to tell, but I like a real fighter here to win, not a youtuber though his record is 2-0 in profesional boxing.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on April 17, 2021, 12:38:32 AM
I watched the weigh in earlier today and Ben Askren did not look like he was in good shape. He was a little fat. It makes me question how serious he is about this fight. He's not exactly facing Floyd Mayweather or another elite champion but I still feel like he should have trained harder.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: iTradeChips on April 17, 2021, 03:33:40 AM
What is happening to the world of sports now? why do we have a lot of clown who try to ruined the reputation of the sport?

A youtuber fighting an ex MMA fighter, I don't like what I'm seeing anymore, sorry, but I feel like they are trying to make a circus in the sports just to make money. They use their popularity to influence their followers so they can get some money by supporting their fight. Unreal, the Logan brothers are really focus on boxing now than on their youtube channel.

The set up is now different, start making yourself popular in youtube so you can be a boxer.  ::)

Well it is unfortunate that this has become the current state of boxing. Many of the promoters think that these fights are needed right now and they favor having these fights because they needed the money to make a profit especially right now that regular sports cannot hold ordinary fights that can attract many people to come and see them. But of course the PPV arena is a good time right now for them to take advantage of course. So they just pick any popular guy and see if they could profit.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: yahoo62278 on April 17, 2021, 04:03:32 AM
What is happening to the world of sports now? why do we have a lot of clown who try to ruined the reputation of the sport?

A youtuber fighting an ex MMA fighter, I don't like what I'm seeing anymore, sorry, but I feel like they are trying to make a circus in the sports just to make money. They use their popularity to influence their followers so they can get some money by supporting their fight. Unreal, the Logan brothers are really focus on boxing now than on their youtube channel.

The set up is now different, start making yourself popular in youtube so you can be a boxer.  ::)

Well it is unfortunate that this has become the current state of boxing. Many of the promoters think that these fights are needed right now and they favor having these fights because they needed the money to make a profit especially right now that regular sports cannot hold ordinary fights that can attract many people to come and see them. But of course the PPV arena is a good time right now for them to take advantage of course. So they just pick any popular guy and see if they could profit.
These types of fights are pathetic. Jake paul at least knows how to box, but putting a MMA fighter up against him is a joke. The MMA guy is going to lose everytime. Same thing happened with Connor Mcgregor and Floyd Mayweather, MMA guy gets his ass whooped.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: OgNasty on April 17, 2021, 08:35:14 PM
What is happening to the world of sports now? why do we have a lot of clown who try to ruined the reputation of the sport?

A youtuber fighting an ex MMA fighter, I don't like what I'm seeing anymore, sorry, but I feel like they are trying to make a circus in the sports just to make money. They use their popularity to influence their followers so they can get some money by supporting their fight. Unreal, the Logan brothers are really focus on boxing now than on their youtube channel.

The set up is now different, start making yourself popular in youtube so you can be a boxer.  ::)

Well it is unfortunate that this has become the current state of boxing. Many of the promoters think that these fights are needed right now and they favor having these fights because they needed the money to make a profit especially right now that regular sports cannot hold ordinary fights that can attract many people to come and see them. But of course the PPV arena is a good time right now for them to take advantage of course. So they just pick any popular guy and see if they could profit.
These types of fights are pathetic. Jake paul at least knows how to box, but putting a MMA fighter up against him is a joke. The MMA guy is going to lose everytime. Same thing happened with Connor Mcgregor and Floyd Mayweather, MMA guy gets his ass whooped.

I would say that the current state of boxing has made these sort of fights necessary. MMA has just become too popular and boxing has suffered a major decline in the last 30 years.

Regardless of that... I’m looking forward to the two upcoming Paul brothers fights and think they’ve brought a lot of attention back to the sport. I wouldn’t be watching boxing tonight otherwise.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: robelneo on April 17, 2021, 09:56:19 PM
I watched the weigh in earlier today and Ben Askren did not look like he was in good shape. He was a little fat. It makes me question how serious he is about this fight. He's not exactly facing Floyd Mayweather or another elite champion but I still feel like he should have trained harder.

Between the two Jake Paul seems to be in a good condition with a well-conditioned physique, Ben Askren is coming off with unwanted weights going to this fight, I never known Ben to be a good boxer and it's too late for him to take and learn boxing, boxing is a game of endurance and he is in trouble here even if Jake Paul is not an A-rated boxer, Jake Paul can score a knockout, he knows how to throw a lethal punch.
I have a bad feeling for Ben on this fight, but let's see.

Btw here is the video of the weigh-in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx6jh06qCrw


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: ene1980 on April 17, 2021, 10:13:27 PM
These types of fights are pathetic. Jake paul at least knows how to box, but putting a MMA fighter up against him is a joke. The MMA guy is going to lose everytime. Same thing happened with Connor Mcgregor and Floyd Mayweather, MMA guy gets his ass whooped.
Will see whether it is a joke, comparing Floyd Mayweather who is considered to be the best defensive boxer against anyone is a tough fight and i bet Conor McGregor has the ability to knock out some of the boxing champions in his weight division.

Jake Paul is not a professional boxer and he has not fought high level competition either but Ben Askren fought high level competition in wrestling and MMA and i think that advantage will help him in this fight as well and it depends upon how healthy Ben Askren is right now as he had a major surgery a few months ago.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: OgNasty on April 17, 2021, 10:23:47 PM
Ben really hasn’t been taking this fight seriously either. I’m not sure if he just doesn’t care or is so confident that he felt like he didn’t need to train. He looked obviously out of shape yesterday. Everyone keeps saying that YouTubers have no chance against the pros, so maybe Ben knows this and will slap Jake around. I’d be surprised if you could show up out of shape and win in a different sport than you are used to, but maybe pro fighters are that much better than newcomers. We will see soon enough...


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: notblox1 on April 17, 2021, 11:15:29 PM
Youtuber Jake Paul is actually betting favorite but I remember that UFC boss Dana White was saying he is willing to bet miliion dollars on Ben Askren.
Here is nice chance for him to double his money and get a little extra something, but I suspect that something like draw result could happen with bookies making most money.
Win or lose, Ben Askren will get $500,000 and Jake Paul will get $690,000 for this fight  :)


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: AmoreJaz on April 17, 2021, 11:30:49 PM
Ben really hasn’t been taking this fight seriously either. I’m not sure if he just doesn’t care or is so confident that he felt like he didn’t need to train. He looked obviously out of shape yesterday. Everyone keeps saying that YouTubers have no chance against the pros, so maybe Ben knows this and will slap Jake around. I’d be surprised if you could show up out of shape and win in a different sport than you are used to, but maybe pro fighters are that much better than newcomers. We will see soon enough...

maybe, it seems he is not taking this seriously as it is only exhibition fight. but we dont know their preparation here. we will see it inside the ring.

Youtuber Jake Paul is actually betting favorite but I remember that UFC boss Dana White was saying he is willing to bet miliion dollars on Ben Askren.
Here is nice chance for him to double his money and get a little extra something, but I suspect that something like draw result could happen with bookies making most money.
Win or lose, Ben Askren will get $500,000 and Jake Paul will get $690,000 for this fight  :)


that's right. win or lose, both of these fighters will get a good amount of money. not that big as compared to others but hey, we are in the pandemic period and this is just an exhibition fight.
waiting bout the results as i placed bet on this fight...


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on April 17, 2021, 11:45:47 PM
Everyone keeps saying that YouTubers have no chance against the pros, so maybe Ben knows this and will slap Jake around. I’d be surprised if you could show up out of shape and win in a different sport than you are used to, but maybe pro fighters are that much better than newcomers. We will see soon enough...
Waiting for the fight to start, i am rooting for Ben Askren to win and he never had a good body even when he was competing in MMA but if he has not taken the fight seriously then he will get knocked out cold as anyone who knows to punch can hurt if the defense is not up to the market and if you are not training the reflexes are not going to be sharp.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: plr on April 18, 2021, 12:23:13 AM


that's right. win or lose, both of these fighters will get a good amount of money. not that big as compared to others but hey, we are in the pandemic period and this is just an exhibition fight.
waiting bout the results as i placed bet on this fight...

Even if this is a an exhibition fight, they can and will hurt each other, as you can see on Jake Paul's last fight against Robinson, where he knock him out cold, for Ben Askren it is not money it's time to redeem himself because 2 losses after he stop fighting it's time for him to get in the winning and for Jake Paul's he wants big money and he can only get it after this win.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: OgNasty on April 18, 2021, 03:13:25 AM
Everyone keeps saying that YouTubers have no chance against the pros, so maybe Ben knows this and will slap Jake around. I’d be surprised if you could show up out of shape and win in a different sport than you are used to, but maybe pro fighters are that much better than newcomers. We will see soon enough...
Waiting for the fight to start, i am rooting for Ben Askren to win and he never had a good body even when he was competing in MMA but if he has not taken the fight seriously then he will get knocked out cold as anyone who knows to punch can hurt if the defense is not up to the market and if you are not training the reflexes are not going to be sharp.

I’d be surprised if he got knocked out too to be honest. I’m not sure how this will go. Such a strange matchup. I do see quite a few people streaming it for free on twitch.tv though if people were interested in watching it that don’t have access to the PPV. They should be coming on in another 20 minutes or so I believe.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on April 18, 2021, 03:30:38 AM
Everyone keeps saying that YouTubers have no chance against the pros, so maybe Ben knows this and will slap Jake around. I’d be surprised if you could show up out of shape and win in a different sport than you are used to, but maybe pro fighters are that much better than newcomers. We will see soon enough...
Waiting for the fight to start, i am rooting for Ben Askren to win and he never had a good body even when he was competing in MMA but if he has not taken the fight seriously then he will get knocked out cold as anyone who knows to punch can hurt if the defense is not up to the market and if you are not training the reflexes are not going to be sharp.

I’d be surprised if he got knocked out too to be honest. I’m not sure how this will go. Such a strange matchup. I do see quite a few people streaming it for free on twitch.tv though if people were interested in watching it that don’t have access to the PPV. They should be coming on in another 20 minutes or so I believe.

I believe there is still another fight before the main event, which is unfortunate because the commentary is really bad and Oscar de la Hoya is clearly intoxicated.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: OgNasty on April 18, 2021, 04:05:39 AM
Everyone keeps saying that YouTubers have no chance against the pros, so maybe Ben knows this and will slap Jake around. I’d be surprised if you could show up out of shape and win in a different sport than you are used to, but maybe pro fighters are that much better than newcomers. We will see soon enough...
Waiting for the fight to start, i am rooting for Ben Askren to win and he never had a good body even when he was competing in MMA but if he has not taken the fight seriously then he will get knocked out cold as anyone who knows to punch can hurt if the defense is not up to the market and if you are not training the reflexes are not going to be sharp.

I’d be surprised if he got knocked out too to be honest. I’m not sure how this will go. Such a strange matchup. I do see quite a few people streaming it for free on twitch.tv though if people were interested in watching it that don’t have access to the PPV. They should be coming on in another 20 minutes or so I believe.

I believe there is still another fight before the main event, which is unfortunate because the commentary is really bad and Oscar de la Hoya is clearly intoxicated.

Snoop seems to have gotten everyone high on the broadcast I’m watching. I think I had my time zones confused. Looks like I was an hour early.

Umm... Did Snoop just say he has two million dollars bet on Jake Paul to beat Ben Askren? Wow... That should be a catalyst for some good commentary at the end of the fight.

UPDATE:
Less than a minute! Snoop going crazy about just winning 2 million...


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Twinkledoe on April 18, 2021, 05:02:44 AM
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Snoop seems to have gotten everyone high on the broadcast I’m watching. I think I had my time zones confused. Looks like I was an hour early.

Umm... Did Snoop just say he has two million dollars bet on Jake Paul to beat Ben Askren? Wow... That should be a catalyst for some good commentary at the end of the fight.

UPDATE:
Less than a minute! Snoop going crazy about just winning 2 million...

So Snoop placed his bet against Dana? From what I read before, he will not go to a sportsbook but instead bet against with Dana. Will just wait for free streaming of this fight. Not really worth watching this on paid subscription from my end.  :P


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on April 18, 2021, 05:06:44 AM
As soon as I saw the first few seconds of the fight I knew it was just a matter of time before Askren was knocked out. He did not look prepared at all. He was out of shape and his technique was really bad. Jake Paul is starting to look like the real deal but he needs to start fighting better competition. We don't need to see him in another mismatch.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: TopTort777 on April 18, 2021, 05:27:18 AM
Booo on Askren. He was there only to get the cheque. Such a slow bag with fat...
Looks like gained on purpose. I’m not going to gym for 3 years look better than him. Paying so much money for PPV was probably a steal of the year.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Twinkledoe on April 18, 2021, 06:22:51 AM
Booo on Askren. He was there only to get the cheque. Such a slow bag with fat...
Looks like gained on purpose. I’m not going to gym for 3 years look better than him. Paying so much money for PPV was probably a steal of the year.

Askren seemed not to give any effort on his training. He was maybe only for the paycheck. Well, I hope Jake Paul will get a bigger name on his next fight. If he is the real deal, then, maybe a belt that he can bring home with. Who knows, he will evolve into a real professional boxer with belts he can brag about? He is considerably young, so he has a lot to prove inside the ring.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: eaLiTy on April 18, 2021, 07:50:57 AM
Booo on Askren. He was there only to get the cheque. Such a slow bag with fat...
Looks like gained on purpose. I’m not going to gym for 3 years look better than him. Paying so much money for PPV was probably a steal of the year.
I did not pay for the fight, i might watch the highlights later, Ben Askren was knocked out and his talks of venturing another sport just messed up big time, he can protest the stoppage and save his face but even if the referee allowed he would have hurt again as his defense was shit and even though he was training with Freddie Roach for the camera he did not learn the basic defense  :D.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: smyslov on April 18, 2021, 08:15:02 AM
I did not pay for the fight, i might watch the highlights later, Ben Askren was knocked out and his talks of venturing another sport just messed up big time, he can protest the stoppage and save his face but even if the referee allowed he would have hurt again as his defense was shit and even though he was training with Freddie Roach for the camera he did not learn the basic defense  :D.

The referee did the right thing he is obviously rocked by that punch, referees are good at looking on the condition of a fighter who's been down, and besides, he has a weak defense Jake can easily hit him at will, that's three in a row for Ben Askren, and this means his career is over, and Jake's Paul is going on a full blast knock after knocking an MMA fighter.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: pilosopotasyo on April 18, 2021, 08:57:30 AM


Askren seemed not to give any effort on his training. He was maybe only for the paycheck. Well, I hope Jake Paul will get a bigger name on his next fight. If he is the real deal, then, maybe a belt that he can bring home with. Who knows, he will evolve into a real professional boxer with belts he can brag about? He is considerably young, so he has a lot to prove inside the ring.

It's an easy job for Jake Paul he did not even sweat or get a jab or punch from Askren, it's much easier than his fight against Robinson, Ben can now be considered a patsy and he should retire and never come back again from any combat sports, his career his over, there's really no effort on his part, those who pay for this fight are shortchanged, Jake Paul should fight a real fighter he's been deprived of fighting real fighters.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: robelneo on April 18, 2021, 10:48:07 AM
It's an easy win for Jake Paul, Ben is on a piece of bad news after Cormier
Quote
claims Ben 'played us all' in Jake Paul defeat after he was filmed SMILING upon leaving the ring after first round loss to the YouTuber... with fans saying the MMA man is 'laughing to the bank'

DC and the fans will think that way because if you watched the outcome of the fight, there's no resistance whatsoever as if Ben Askren did not do his assignment and did not train well, his physique will show that.

Here is the article for this

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-9483721/Ben-Askren-accused-throwing-Jake-Paul-fight-UFC-star-Daniel-Cormier.html


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Joca97 on April 18, 2021, 10:55:00 AM
It's an easy win for Jake Paul, Ben is on a piece of bad news after Cormier
Quote
claims Ben 'played us all' in Jake Paul defeat after he was filmed SMILING upon leaving the ring after first round loss to the YouTuber... with fans saying the MMA man is 'laughing to the bank'

DC and the fans will think that way because if you watched the outcome of the fight, there's no resistance whatsoever as if Ben Askren did not do his assignment and did not train well, his physique will show that.

Here is the article for this

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-9483721/Ben-Askren-accused-throwing-Jake-Paul-fight-UFC-star-Daniel-Cormier.html
From the first minute we saw that jake paul would take this match. Ben askren wasnt motivated at all or doing any damage
Lost to this youtuber is a shame even with a KO in the first round


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: STT on April 18, 2021, 11:21:42 AM
He doesnt have to throw, he just has to be lazy in doing any training vs somebody who did.    He probably already has enough money in retirement this is just the icing and has no concerns or obligation to actually put on much of a fight, pretty poor performance but he did what he was paid for I guess.   Its better to bet on a fight as part of a career I guess.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: aioc on April 18, 2021, 11:34:43 AM

From the first minute we saw that jake paul would take this match. Ben askren wasnt motivated at all or doing any damage
Lost to this youtuber is a shame even with a KO in the first round

We are all shortchanged it's not worth the hype, these fighters are all just hype, I prefer watching real boxers where there is a lot of action, Ben Askren just made $500k for a two minutes appearance in the ring, other boxers deserves this amount.

They are selling the drama not the fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Russlenat on April 18, 2021, 11:43:04 AM
This lucky guy won.

https://i.ibb.co/n1DGjYk/image.png

One user has ~200k EUR worth of BTC on Jake Paul between a few different bets. Big confidence for the youtuber!

I'm also wondering what's the odds for first round KO by Jake Paul, that should high.

Looking at Ben Askren, he look not conditioned in this fight, and his body is not built to fight, looks like he was just drinking beer prior to this fight.  ;D


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Oasisman on April 18, 2021, 12:04:08 PM


Looking at Ben Askren, he look not conditioned in this fight, and his body is not built to fight, looks like he was just drinking beer prior to this fight.  ;D

Well, he (Ben) is a fighter, but not with boxing. He was a wrestling champ so I guess he's not really a good boxer. Though he can do well with MMA because he can pin down opponents just like what he does in wrestling, but then again boxing is different. Plus, he's not really in a good condition looking at his stance and posture, he is indeed retired.

I guess it's time for Jake Paul to challenge a pro boxer as they really considered him as a pro boxer because he already has professional records.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: mirakal on April 18, 2021, 12:14:45 PM


Looking at Ben Askren, he look not conditioned in this fight, and his body is not built to fight, looks like he was just drinking beer prior to this fight.  ;D

Well, he (Ben) is a fighter, but not with boxing. He was a wrestling champ so I guess he's not really a good boxer. Though he can do well with MMA because he can pin down opponents just like what he does in wrestling, but then again boxing is different. Plus, he's not really in a good condition looking at his stance and posture, he is indeed retired.

I guess it's time for Jake Paul to challenge a pro boxer as they really considered him as a pro boxer because he already has professional records.

I think Ben Askren is an MMA fighter, so he has an experience but that's not enough for a boxer like Jake Paul.
Mayweather vs Mggregor is even better than this fight, round one only and it doesn't look like Ben Askren had a chance from the very start.

Congratulations to him by the way and the bettors.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: robelneo on April 18, 2021, 12:28:10 PM


I guess it's time for Jake Paul to challenge a pro boxer as they really considered him as a pro boxer because he already has professional records.

He should, his last three fights are coming off from amateurs, it's time for him to fight professional boxers, but I doubt his chances if he ever faces fighters in the top 10 of middleweight and light heavyweight, people will get enough of Paul's fighting inexperienced fighters, he will eventually have to fight tough fighters to test if he really has what it takes to be called a professional boxer.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Vaskiy on April 18, 2021, 12:30:14 PM
This lucky guy won.

https://i.ibb.co/n1DGjYk/image.png

One user has ~200k EUR worth of BTC on Jake Paul between a few different bets. Big confidence for the youtuber!

I'm also wondering what's the odds for first round KO by Jake Paul, that should high.

Looking at Ben Askren, he look not conditioned in this fight, and his body is not built to fight, looks like he was just drinking beer prior to this fight.  ;D
Myself too thinking of this guy than the participants Ben Askren and Jake Paul. He is lucky to win, and he has made the right prediction about the fight. What he has made out of the bet is more than enough for a person living in a third world country.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Yamifoud on April 18, 2021, 12:44:22 PM
This lucky guy won.

https://i.ibb.co/n1DGjYk/image.png

One user has ~200k EUR worth of BTC on Jake Paul between a few different bets. Big confidence for the youtuber!

I'm also wondering what's the odds for first round KO by Jake Paul, that should high.

Looking at Ben Askren, he look not conditioned in this fight, and his body is not built to fight, looks like he was just drinking beer prior to this fight.  ;D
Myself too thinking of this guy than the participants Ben Askren and Jake Paul. He is lucky to win, and he has made the right prediction about the fight. What he has made out of the bet is more than enough for a person living in a third world country.

It's just a small amount for him, forget about that 3rd world country thing, we live by our means, and no one would bet that amount if he can't afford it. Snoop dog was even screaming where's his money, I thought he really bet $2 million in this fight and he was right with his prediction.

This guy is reach, so $2 million is easy for them.

https://www.sportbible.com/boxing/reactions-news-funny-snoop-dogg-screams-dana-white-where-my-money-at-after-winning-bet-20210418


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: notblox1 on April 18, 2021, 02:07:33 PM
That was embarasing performance from fat version of Ben Askren but I guess he is happy with $500,000 he earned for this shitshow.
Problem is that we are going to see a lot more Jake Paul now and maybe he is going to call other MMA fighters like Connor McGreggor who is much better in boxing, or someone else who is in his category.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: btc_angela on April 18, 2021, 02:16:56 PM
That was embarasing performance from fat version of Ben Askren but I guess he is happy with $500,000 he earned for this shitshow.

He looks like he never really train for this fight, Lol.

Problem is that we are going to see a lot more Jake Paul now and maybe he is going to call other MMA fighters like Connor McGreggor who is much better in boxing, or someone else who is in his category.

And with this win, Jake Paul stocks goes up, and yeah he will probably call more MMA fighters or even pure boxer. Conor boxing though is above average, his left still has the power to knock out anyone if he hits someone perfectly.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Welsh on April 18, 2021, 02:31:44 PM
This just means we'll be subjected to more gimmicky social media infulencer type bullshit until someone actually derails this guy. The whole Triller event with the mini concerts inbetween fights really annoyed me. I'm sure it was popular among casuals, and those that are into that sort of gimmicky attitude, but it was really hard to stomach that for me. I actually just had a split screen going on, where I was watching the UFC, until the Ben Askren fight was due, and I still managed to fall asleep.

I was originally expecting the fight to kick off around 4am UK time, but it must have been around 6am? By the time it actually started. I remember it being 4:30 when Doja Cat, and all those were singing.

For someone who pays, and comes to see fights it was an absolute shitshow.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: TopTort777 on April 18, 2021, 07:04:53 PM
That was embarasing performance from fat version of Ben Askren but I guess he is happy with $500,000 he earned for this shitshow.

He looks like he never really train for this fight, Lol.

Looks like an "average Joe" to me :D

During their "debates" he looked more sporty. The moment he took his shirt off on weigh-ins, it was clearly seen that Ben was there only to get money. Ben was never fit fighter with 6 pack, but this time it looked that he was on a burger diet. He reminded me Rampage Jackson shape in fight against Fedor Emelianenko.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: OgNasty on April 18, 2021, 07:57:21 PM
Where are all the folks who said Jake Paul had no chance against a professional fighter? Seemed like he had a little bit more of a chance in there... Has this had any effect on the thoughts about the Mayweather fight? Now that it appears the “pro” fighters aren’t the gods they’ve been made out to be, are there people who will begin to give Logan a punchers chance?


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: TheGreatPython on April 18, 2021, 08:12:35 PM
That was embarasing performance from fat version of Ben Askren but I guess he is happy with $500,000 he earned for this shitshow.
Problem is that we are going to see a lot more Jake Paul now and maybe he is going to call other MMA fighters like Connor McGreggor who is much better in boxing, or someone else who is in his category.
This fight was nothing like I expected. From the first moment I said that people are underestimating what Ben could do, dude is a wrestler but he was a fighter, dude had 19 wins in UFC, he was a great fighter, and I know he is not in that shape anymore but anyone who has done that should be a lot better. Some freaking youtuber came out and won with just few punches, hell Jake doesn't seem to be punching that hard neither.

First some weird guy, then an NBA player, now a fighter, I start to feel like there is something going to make Jake look better and better to make more money from his name, I do not know, I mean sure it could be legit, but it feels like it wasn't a "real" fight at all. I am saying all this but I haven't wagered on Ben, I just didn't see a point on betting on this, but I still feel like it was a fishy fight and didn't make any sense in the end.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Russlenat on April 18, 2021, 08:55:08 PM
That was embarasing performance from fat version of Ben Askren but I guess he is happy with $500,000 he earned for this shitshow.
Problem is that we are going to see a lot more Jake Paul now and maybe he is going to call other MMA fighters like Connor McGreggor who is much better in boxing, or someone else who is in his category.

That's not a problem if we will not watch his fight, lol...

Well, if it's Conor, I guess that would be a nice fight, but we don't know if Conor is now conditioned after losing his last fight.
Conor already made a huge money from his fight against Mayweather, so it's gonna be lower as expected, but still its easy money.

How about Jake Paul vs Mayweather?


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: AmoreJaz on April 18, 2021, 09:21:50 PM
That was embarasing performance from fat version of Ben Askren but I guess he is happy with $500,000 he earned for this shitshow.
Problem is that we are going to see a lot more Jake Paul now and maybe he is going to call other MMA fighters like Connor McGreggor who is much better in boxing, or someone else who is in his category.

That's not a problem if we will not watch his fight, lol...

Well, if it's Conor, I guess that would be a nice fight, but we don't know if Conor is now conditioned after losing his last fight.
Conor already made a huge money from his fight against Mayweather, so it's gonna be lower as expected, but still its easy money.

How about Jake Paul vs Mayweather?

jake paul should not call MMA fighters but actual professional boxers. that is, if he wants to move forward his boxing career. should have put more money on this. lol
now that jake paul seems to condition himself to be lined up against prof boxers, he needs to ask a serious one for his next fight. maybe a belt that is appropriate to his weight division.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on April 18, 2021, 09:53:04 PM
Now they are starting to hype up a potential fight between Jake Paul and Tommy Fury, Tyson Fury's brother. This would be an evenly matched fight because Tommy Fury only has 5 professional fights and they are against fighters with losing records. He also has very little amateur experience.

Where are all the folks who said Jake Paul had no chance against a professional fighter? Seemed like he had a little bit more of a chance in there... Has this had any effect on the thoughts about the Mayweather fight? Now that it appears the “pro” fighters aren’t the gods they’ve been made out to be, are there people who will begin to give Logan a punchers chance?

I always thought Logan had a puncher's chance against Mayweather. The size difference alone should make it a very complicated fight for Mayweather. Logan Paul is not as good as his brother and Mayweather is a much better boxer than Askren so it is perfectly reasonable that most people think Mayweather should win the fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: hulla on April 18, 2021, 10:40:06 PM
From the first minute we saw that jake paul would take this match. Ben askren wasnt motivated at all or doing any damage
Lost to this youtuber is a shame even with a KO in the first round
Although Jake Paul did well by winning the fight through KO and I know the fight won't last long before it end right from the first 5 seconds of the fight but I was disappointed in both the fighters because they are fighting like kids even Ben who have fought professional fight couldn't prove himself.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: OgNasty on April 19, 2021, 12:16:31 AM
After having a night to sleep on it, I think this entire event was the biggest shit show I’ve ever seen. I enjoyed it a lot, but only because it was a train wreck that was unable to be looked away from. The announcers, the fighters, the ring girls, all totally clueless. Looked like everyone involved had fun though, except maybe the guy who elbowed himself in the nuts and tried to blame his opponent.

Being on more shit shows!


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: babygun on April 19, 2021, 12:35:28 AM
As soon as I saw the first few seconds of the fight I knew it was just a matter of time before Askren was knocked out. He did not look prepared at all. He was out of shape and his technique was really bad. Jake Paul is starting to look like the real deal but he needs to start fighting better competition. We don't need to see him in another mismatch.

It is not because Jake Paul won this fight super easily that he is the real deal in boxing. His previous wins were against another youtuber and a proxessional basketball player...
This match was just easy money for both guys. As long as people buy the ppv, we will see these kind of (stupid) matches.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: nitrobetting on April 19, 2021, 12:54:50 AM
Did Ben Askren even train? He looked so out of shape. Lopsided, rigged, a lot can be said because of how bad it went. One thing is for sure they walked away with a lot of money. Is it time people take Jake Paul seriously? He's ridiculous on his Youtube antics but makes for it in the ring.

Do you guys like fights like this? or does it make fighting/boxing a bit of a joke?


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: cabron on April 19, 2021, 01:20:02 AM
Did Ben Askren even train? He looked so out of shape. Lopsided, rigged, a lot can be said because of how bad it went. One thing is for sure they walked away with a lot of money. Is it time people take Jake Paul seriously? He's ridiculous on his Youtube antics but makes for it in the ring.

Do you guys like fights like this? or does it make fighting/boxing a bit of a joke?

No. he did not. Paul attempted to hit him on the same spot over and over yet he had done nothing to avoid that punch what a loser. Ho head movement no nothing for this guy. There are already people talking this fight is rigged that Askren meant just to make money out of this fight and then just lay down after that straight.

DIsappointing to see an MMA fighter just fall like that without even trying to fight back with all his might to win it.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: bbc.reporter on April 19, 2021, 02:58:07 AM
@cabron. He did not train might only be a storyline the sports media wants to spread for your clicks and attention. Ben Askren’s body has always appeared like a dad bod before he retired from MMA.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: judeafante on April 19, 2021, 02:59:43 AM


DIsappointing to see an MMA fighter just fall like that without even trying to fight back with all his might to win it.

Obviously, Ben Askren does not know how to box he only knows wrestling and MMA but not boxing, he is just all talks, all are these are dramas and when it comes to the real fight he did not deliver, this is a career-ending match for Ben Askren, I don't think any promotion will get his service, he blew it away very badly, end of the road for Ben Askren, and Paul's journey continues.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: STT on April 19, 2021, 06:34:21 AM
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I always thought Logan had a puncher's chance against Mayweather.

Without a lucky punch or some lack of training, poor health it shouldn't be a thing maybe the odds of Logan beating Mayweather is less then 1 in 100 most days but always keep an eye on lax training for some possibility because obviously its a big pay off in potential especially in live odds after fight start if you can identify any potential for a lucky swing; who knows in an exhibition match what goes down.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Lorence.xD on April 19, 2021, 08:33:46 AM
@cabron. He did not train might only be a storyline the sports media wants to spread for your clicks and attention. Ben Askren’s body has always appeared like a dad bod before he retired from MMA.
It didn't matter though as this is probably the easiest money for Ben, he just have to be defeated and that's about it, although this is a sad thing because people are rooting for Askren but it seems that this isn't how it is supposed to be I guess, maybe we see Jake Paul fight a capable fighter next time.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Dump3er on April 19, 2021, 08:36:15 AM


DIsappointing to see an MMA fighter just fall like that without even trying to fight back with all his might to win it.

Obviously, Ben Askren does not know how to box he only knows wrestling and MMA but not boxing, he is just all talks, all are these are dramas and when it comes to the real fight he did not deliver, this is a career-ending match for Ben Askren, I don't think any promotion will get his service, he blew it away very badly, end of the road for Ben Askren, and Paul's journey continues.

That fight was a disappointment and absolutely boring. Sure Askren doesn't know boxing that well but we shouldn't forget that Jake has only been a Youtuber for most of his life. Beating a wrestling and MMA pro even in boxing is still quite impressive, but this didn't even look like a real boxing fight.

Without the warm up there wouldn't even have been any sweat... Is Paul going for a big one now? I guess it will happen just for the money. Millions of spectators in front of their laptops make it pay off.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: bitterguy28 on April 19, 2021, 09:07:37 AM
https://i.imgur.com/bVWn0zX.png

This fight is a Big Joke , Does anyone here Bets good amount on this?

Good that I did not even give a glimpse on this Fight when first crossed my Wall last month.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Yaunfitda on April 19, 2021, 10:43:51 AM


DIsappointing to see an MMA fighter just fall like that without even trying to fight back with all his might to win it.

Obviously, Ben Askren does not know how to box he only knows wrestling and MMA but not boxing, he is just all talks, all are these are dramas and when it comes to the real fight he did not deliver, this is a career-ending match for Ben Askren, I don't think any promotion will get his service, he blew it away very badly, end of the road for Ben Askren, and Paul's journey continues.
Or he probably take a dive in this fight, or maybe the referee is also involved.

I think his career has ended already when Masvidal knock him out, maybe someone will get him though to be knockout again, so it's easy money for him. For Paul, expect him to fight other non boxer MMA and then setup himself for a huge pay day with Floyd in the future.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: mirakal on April 19, 2021, 11:03:06 AM


DIsappointing to see an MMA fighter just fall like that without even trying to fight back with all his might to win it.

Obviously, Ben Askren does not know how to box he only knows wrestling and MMA but not boxing, he is just all talks, all are these are dramas and when it comes to the real fight he did not deliver, this is a career-ending match for Ben Askren, I don't think any promotion will get his service, he blew it away very badly, end of the road for Ben Askren, and Paul's journey continues.
Or he probably take a dive in this fight, or maybe the referee is also involved.

I think his career has ended already when Masvidal knock him out, maybe someone will get him though to be knockout again, so it's easy money for him. For Paul, expect him to fight other non boxer MMA and then setup himself for a huge pay day with Floyd in the future.

How can the referee be involve in this fight?

Jake Paul's record has improve to 3-0, all won by KO, previous fight before this one was a big win against Nate Robinson, now he won another easy fight. A star in the making, but just in an arena of exhibition matches, nothing really special though.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: ene1980 on April 19, 2021, 08:48:10 PM
How can the referee be involve in this fight?
It is because he is officiating the fight  :P.

Jake Paul's record has improve to 3-0, all won by KO, previous fight before this one was a big win against Nate Robinson, now he won another easy fight. A star in the making, but just in an arena of exhibition matches, nothing really special though.
He should call out some other retired MMA fighters or movie starts and improve his record and keep on making money. No doubt he is a good promoter and he knows how to conduct business, i did not expect quick works like what happened in the fight and i was expecting Ben Askren to showcase some form of defense rather than giving his opponent to knock you out.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Twinkledoe on April 19, 2021, 09:25:06 PM
How can the referee be involve in this fight?
It is because he is officiating the fight  :P.

Jake Paul's record has improve to 3-0, all won by KO, previous fight before this one was a big win against Nate Robinson, now he won another easy fight. A star in the making, but just in an arena of exhibition matches, nothing really special though.
He should call out some other retired MMA fighters or movie starts and improve his record and keep on making money. No doubt he is a good promoter and he knows how to conduct business, i did not expect quick works like what happened in the fight and i was expecting Ben Askren to showcase some form of defense rather than giving his opponent to knock you out.

Not retired MMA fighters or any popular personality, can he fight to real boxing weight class appropriate to him? Maybe time to get out of exhibition fights. Let us see how he will perform in real boxing fights.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Botnake on April 19, 2021, 09:38:50 PM
Not retired MMA fighters or any popular personality, can he fight to real boxing weight class appropriate to him? Maybe time to get out of exhibition fights. Let us see how he will perform in real boxing fights.

I think he can because his record says that he is fighting a "Pro Boxing Career" (https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/912383), which he already has 3 wins by KO.. and he is indeed a professional boxer according this article (https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/is-jake-paul-professional-boxer).. so he can fight anyone.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: bbc.reporter on April 20, 2021, 05:21:43 AM
It appears MMA sports media is writing another storyline again and this time it is Tyron Woodley versus Jake Paul hehehe. Tyron and Ben Askren are best friends since their days on wrestling when they were in college. Woodley can win if he throws punches. However, he has not thrown many punches since his loss to Kamaru Usman. He might have asked Ben Askren how much payment Ben received hehehehe.



Former Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) welterweight champion Tyron Woodley is a longtime friend and training partner of retired 170-pound wrestler Ben Askren, who also competed for UFC, as well as Bellator MMA and ONE Championship.

“The Chosen One” made his way to the locker room of Jake Paul to watch the YouTube star get his hands wrapped and gloved for his “Funky” boxing match, and in true Woodley fashion, couldn’t seem to keep from getting himself into trouble.

“Begging so hard to get your prostitute a gig,” Woodley wrote on Twitter. “You trying to fight everyone BUT me! When you realize I’m not with the child’s play you froze like winter and started stuttering! You want real smoke or you wanna keep padding yo bitch ass record?”


Source https://www.mmamania.com/platform/amp/2021/4/19/22392210/video-tyron-woodley-tried-flex-jake-paul-got-silenced-pro-boxer-instead-mma


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: hilariousetc on April 20, 2021, 11:50:25 AM
That was pretty embarrassing for Askren. As bad as Askren is outside of wrestling he should have done better. At least he admits it was embarrassing but doesn't seem to care too much. I guess the got his payday.

Now they are starting to hype up a potential fight between Jake Paul and Tommy Fury, Tyson Fury's brother. This would be an evenly matched fight because Tommy Fury only has 5 professional fights and they are against fighters with losing records. He also has very little amateur experience.

I'd be very surprised if Tommy Fury didn't KO him very easily. Fury is a professional boxer from an obviously very strong boxing family. Jake is an amateur who's fought nobody of worth. I'll admit him KO-ing Askren surprised me but Askren isn't a boxer. He himself admits he's a terrible striker. If Jake did manage to put on a decent show then I'd take my hat off to him but I think he's going to get a shock if he does manage to land a fight like this or even one with McGregor who can actually box.

After having a night to sleep on it, I think this entire event was the biggest shit show I’ve ever seen. I enjoyed it a lot, but only because it was a train wreck that was unable to be looked away from. The announcers, the fighters, the ring girls, all totally clueless. Looked like everyone involved had fun though, except maybe the guy who elbowed himself in the nuts and tried to blame his opponent.

Being on more shit shows!

I only watched the headline fight but I think what makes these fights interesting is the both the randomness of them and the unexpectedness. Who knows what's going to happen when you get these sorts of match ups. Sometimes they're shit, sometimes they're interesting and sometimes you get unexpected things like this. I think we'll be seeing more and more of them once celebs and promoters realise how much money is involved. Doesn't really matter about the quality of the fights when they're making millions and both parties will want their piece of the pie.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Yaunfitda on April 20, 2021, 12:10:04 PM


DIsappointing to see an MMA fighter just fall like that without even trying to fight back with all his might to win it.

Obviously, Ben Askren does not know how to box he only knows wrestling and MMA but not boxing, he is just all talks, all are these are dramas and when it comes to the real fight he did not deliver, this is a career-ending match for Ben Askren, I don't think any promotion will get his service, he blew it away very badly, end of the road for Ben Askren, and Paul's journey continues.
Or he probably take a dive in this fight, or maybe the referee is also involved.

I think his career has ended already when Masvidal knock him out, maybe someone will get him though to be knockout again, so it's easy money for him. For Paul, expect him to fight other non boxer MMA and then setup himself for a huge pay day with Floyd in the future.

How can the referee be involve in this fight?

Jake Paul's record has improve to 3-0, all won by KO, previous fight before this one was a big win against Nate Robinson, now he won another easy fight. A star in the making, but just in an arena of exhibition matches, nothing really special though.
Obviously he could have at least allowed Askren to continue the fight, standing 8 count and then he re-assess. But he seems that he waived it off too early.

How can you call him a star when he was just a youtube sensation and fighting non boxers? I disagree that we should have star in an exhibition match. They are just after the big pay check they can get, not about their legacy.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on April 20, 2021, 01:54:16 PM
How can you call him a star when he was just a youtube sensation and fighting non boxers? I disagree that we should have star in an exhibition match. They are just after the big pay check they can get, not about their legacy.
Jake Paul and his brother Logan Paul are super stars because they can put seats when they do something and that is not a thing that everyone can do. If you call them boxers then i do have a disagreement as they are smart enough to fight these high profile exhibition fights with individuals that has nothing to do with boxing and yet they are able to hype the fight up and make millions of dollars and you should not expect them to fight legit boxers instead they will make money they way they are doing now.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Welsh on April 22, 2021, 07:23:03 PM
Rumours of Tommy Fury Vs Jake Paul which I'll be a little more interested in watching honestly. Hopefully not on Triller....

After having a night to sleep on it, I think this entire event was the biggest shit show I’ve ever seen. I enjoyed it a lot, but only because it was a train wreck that was unable to be looked away from. The announcers, the fighters, the ring girls, all totally clueless. Looked like everyone involved had fun though, except maybe the guy who elbowed himself in the nuts and tried to blame his opponent.

Being on more shit shows!
It was entertaining for how bad it was at times, but I still watched the UFC over it during the singing which seemed to go on for absolutely ages. It was almost a concert inbetween fights. I think they probably did a lot of PPVs, and this sort of format could become mainstream, but I'm not a huge fan of the format, and would prefer the UFC format, or traditional Sky Sports boxing events where its just fights, and promo.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Natalim on April 23, 2021, 11:55:47 AM
Rumours of Tommy Fury Vs Jake Paul which I'll be a little more interested in watching honestly. Hopefully not on Triller....


I was curious who Tommy Fury is, so I read the article (https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/14692074/jake-paul-tommy-fury-fight-tyson-michael-hunter/) to confirm about the rumor and also discover that Tommy Fury is the half brother of Tyson Fury, so this is great as Tyson could teach his brother on how to win the fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Welsh on April 23, 2021, 03:53:46 PM
I was curious who Tommy Fury is, so I read the article (https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/14692074/jake-paul-tommy-fury-fight-tyson-michael-hunter/) to confirm about the rumor and also discover that Tommy Fury is the half brother of Tyson Fury, so this is great as Tyson could teach his brother on how to win the fight.
He'll naturally get hype just because he's related to Tyson, but hes done semi decent. Personally, I don't think he's been given particularly challenging opponents, but I can't blame him for it. He's beat what's been put in front of him. I would like to think someone like him would easily put away Jake Paul though. So, it might not turn into an interesting fight for a neutral fan.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Russlenat on April 23, 2021, 09:34:39 PM
I was curious who Tommy Fury is, so I read the article (https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/14692074/jake-paul-tommy-fury-fight-tyson-michael-hunter/) to confirm about the rumor and also discover that Tommy Fury is the half brother of Tyson Fury, so this is great as Tyson could teach his brother on how to win the fight.
He'll naturally get hype just because he's related to Tyson, but hes done semi decent. Personally, I don't think he's been given particularly challenging opponents, but I can't blame him for it. He's beat what's been put in front of him. I would like to think someone like him would easily put away Jake Paul though. So, it might not turn into an interesting fight for a neutral fan.
Wow, this guy (Tommy) is also a pro, this would be a great match.

His record is also impressive, 5 wins (4 KOs), this is pretty decent to match up Jake Paul's talent in boxing, I'd do a bet on this guy took.
source : https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/854141

More hype would bring more money, maybe these two will be interested and will make this fight realize.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: 7788bitcoin on April 23, 2021, 11:17:49 PM
Wow, this guy (Tommy) is also a pro, this would be a great match.

His record is also impressive, 5 wins (4 KOs), this is pretty decent to match up Jake Paul's talent in boxing, I'd do a bet on this guy took.
source : https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/854141

More hype would bring more money, maybe these two will be interested and will make this fight realize.
If Tommy Fury is really skilled and talented i do not think Jake Paul will be interested in taking that fight, he will get many opponents that does not have the boxing skills and why should he take the difficult path and as long as he can make money boxing nobodies in the sweet science he will do so and he is smart enough to hand pick his opponents that will interest the audience as well.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Natalim on April 24, 2021, 12:21:33 PM
Wow, this guy (Tommy) is also a pro, this would be a great match.

His record is also impressive, 5 wins (4 KOs), this is pretty decent to match up Jake Paul's talent in boxing, I'd do a bet on this guy took.
source : https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/854141

More hype would bring more money, maybe these two will be interested and will make this fight realize.
If Tommy Fury is really skilled and talented i do not think Jake Paul will be interested in taking that fight, he will get many opponents that does not have the boxing skills and why should he take the difficult path and as long as he can make money boxing nobodies in the sweet science he will do so and he is smart enough to hand pick his opponents that will interest the audience as well.

Well, he already made a lot of money in his previous fights, time for him to challenge himself against a fighter with a good chance of beating him, we will know the update of this rumor soon, let's give Jake Paul a time to celebrate on his recent win.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: hilariousetc on April 26, 2021, 10:25:57 AM
Rumours of Tommy Fury Vs Jake Paul which I'll be a little more interested in watching honestly. Hopefully not on Triller....

After having a night to sleep on it, I think this entire event was the biggest shit show I’ve ever seen. I enjoyed it a lot, but only because it was a train wreck that was unable to be looked away from. The announcers, the fighters, the ring girls, all totally clueless. Looked like everyone involved had fun though, except maybe the guy who elbowed himself in the nuts and tried to blame his opponent.

Being on more shit shows!
It was entertaining for how bad it was at times, but I still watched the UFC over it during the singing which seemed to go on for absolutely ages. It was almost a concert inbetween fights. I think they probably did a lot of PPVs, and this sort of format could become mainstream, but I'm not a huge fan of the format, and would prefer the UFC format, or traditional Sky Sports boxing events where its just fights, and promo.

It'll more likely be on Triller, though they could do a cross-platform deal I guess. This is much more a sign-of-the-times online streaming fight than a TV PPV as Tommy Fury is probably still more known for being on Love Island or just the brother of Tyson than his boxing career. Tommy Fury doesn't have that big of a draw yet and Jake Paul is invested with Triller so I'd be surprised if it wasn't at least on their platform. Frank Warren has at least shown interest so it could certainly happen. I think Jake Paul is going to get a shock once he steps into the ring with a proper boxer though so he might want to keep fighting people he will think he can beat. Tommy is still relatively new though and hasn't fought anyone notable yet so maybe Jake will take the shot on this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Ben Askren on April 17
Post by: Welsh on April 29, 2021, 12:34:04 AM
Tommy is still relatively new though and hasn't fought anyone notable yet so maybe Jake will take the shot on this fight.
Yeah, this is the largest takeaway. Tommy is definitely known for his antics inside of love island more than his boxing career. As backed up by a few mentioning here that they hadn't known of him. Hes had a largely unimpressive, and uneventful boxing career. Mainly fighting journeyman, and having no real challenge put in front of him. I can see him being given a nice easy route to build up the hype. Although, Jake Paul is a perfect opportunity, and surely boxing promoters would jump at the chance. It would sell a lot, as it would be yet again UK vs USA, well mainly Everyone vs Jake, but they could at least sell that angle.

Hopefully, I do think Tommy wins it convincingly, but at the end of the day this would be a good option for Jake I'd think. Tommy hasn't really been tested too much, so even us boxing fans don't really know his ceiling, I believe both are around the same height, they both have "celebrity" pasts which would draw in their fans from those. I don't know, just seems the best choice for Jake. Plus, I think if he looks at everyone else on the field, Tommy is probably the less tested out of all of them. He can't pick a lesser opponent than Askren, without at least getting a lot of stick. He has to show that hes at least trying to pick harder opponents, that have experience in boxing to keep up the hype.

I say Jake Vs Fury. Make it happen.