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January 28, 2021, 10:09:20 PM
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Why is this a "Pro Boxing Match"? I know that Jake Paul is making his way into boxing, still, I don't see him lasting in that path but his opponent is an MMA fighter whose punching skills is not that great even inside the octagon. I don't know who will win here but even though Ben had a lot of matches than Jake, I think Jake has a higher chance of winning this match.

He has a good punch against a weak fighter like Robinson I don't know to someone like Ben Asken, it's different when you are hitting an inexperienced fighter to a well-expeirenced fighter if Paul has a good punching power he will have to find a way to connect it against Ben Asken who is very agile, this is going to be an interesting match. whoever wins here will have a good career and will be back in the limelight both fighters need this win.

I don't know any of the backstories about this fight but all I know now is that Ben Asken is representing those fighters that are so annoyed and got hot-blooded that want to face Jake Paul on the ring. In fact, if you will be looking through the internet, there are a lot of fighters that want to fight Jake Paul, he's been after professional athletes and even taunted McGregor for a fight.

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January 28, 2021, 10:33:00 PM
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Is this serious? Ben Askren talk too much about the match latelay even in some interviews this fight will only take 1 round for sure and Jake Paul will be down anyways it is just for money even he knows even the match is not yet started his gonna lose the fight we'll i can't judge him that match but you can see the credibility of the fighter if you are watching it and you can tell in early even you got practice or so on you cannot just make a miracle in the battle but however good luck for both of them.
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January 28, 2021, 11:00:34 PM
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Is this serious? Ben Askren talk too much about the match latelay even in some interviews this fight will only take 1 round for sure and Jake Paul will be down anyways it is just for money even he knows even the match is not yet started his gonna lose the fight we'll i can't judge him that match but you can see the credibility of the fighter if you are watching it and you can tell in early even you got practice or so on you cannot just make a miracle in the battle but however good luck for both of them.

We will hear that kind of statement from either or both fighters, that's normal, they are selling the fight so they like to talk some trash talk or something that will caught the attention of the viewers, because you shared it here, I can say that the strategy is very effective, you buying subscription of this fight?

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January 28, 2021, 11:54:10 PM
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Why is this a "Pro Boxing Match"? I know that Jake Paul is making his way into boxing, still, I don't see him lasting in that path but his opponent is an MMA fighter whose punching skills is not that great even inside the octagon. I don't know who will win here but even though Ben had a lot of matches than Jake, I think Jake has a higher chance of winning this match.
Jake Paul is not looking to be world champion in the sport of boxing, he only does celebrity fights that attracts a big crowd and that is the same path his brother is following as well and they are making millions by putting together these fights.
Not sure whether this will be a sanctioned bout, as long as people like these kind of spectacles we will see these match ups.
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January 28, 2021, 11:58:51 PM
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Back to the fight then this isnt really that too much in hype compared into those previous match-ups/exhibitions that we had seen but at least they would really be
getting some views for this fight but expected it wont really be high as that.
It will not be a stand alone fight, there will be a fight card and i am expecting them to put together a good card to sell the fight, i expected Ben Askren to return to grappling as there are several competitions around but i was surprised when he choose boxing, may be he wanted to challenge himself after getting humiliated in the UFC for his lack of stand up game.
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January 29, 2021, 01:32:59 AM
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I heard there was multiple people that were offered money to fight Jake Paul. Bisping said on a podcast that he was offered a contract, and countered the offer for more, and never heard back. That's a fight I can get behind, just because I believe Jake Paul really needs a reality check. Although, I'm not sure how much of his personality is for the cameras, but it seems that a lot of people within that space has claimed he's also very much the same off camera.

Ben, although a ufc fighter he was predominately known for his wrestling, and was probably considered one of the worst strikers. I would probably say many fans of the sport considered him to be one of the worst of the UFC period. Although, hes a tough guy so he can definitely take a punch. I'm just hoping he can beat Paul here, and hopefully in a fairly dominant manner.

This is absolutely brilliant by Jake Paul though, calls out everyone, and their mother, and then picks one of the weaker opponents in Ben. If Jake wins he's now known for the Youtuber who beat a professional MMA fighter. If he loses, he'll be given some leeway due to Ben being a professional fighter. Its a masterclass by Paul, and his team.
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January 29, 2021, 02:41:45 AM
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Back to the fight then this isnt really that too much in hype compared into those previous match-ups/exhibitions that we had seen but at least they would really be
getting some views for this fight but expected it wont really be high as that.
It will not be a stand alone fight, there will be a fight card and i am expecting them to put together a good card to sell the fight, i expected Ben Askren to return to grappling as there are several competitions around but i was surprised when he choose boxing, may be he wanted to challenge himself after getting humiliated in the UFC for his lack of stand up game.

They needed to do that, as promoters need to find good selections of fight in order to cover in case this fight won't get a lot of crowd to support this two fighters.

Promoters will put along good fights it's given that they are aware that in order to entice viewers the need
of providing additional interesting fights are very important, it support the remaining big event in order
to make sure that they'll be able to make it up for all the expenses.

Though fans are everywhere this two fighters have their own followers and supporters.

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January 29, 2021, 03:51:07 AM
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Ben Askren has gone through humiliations. I guess that is something he's not afraid of facing once again. If only for the sake of money. But no worries, his opponent is no boxer himself.

We can forgive Ben everything, because he turns to be "our guy"  Grin



LOL! But yeah, we could give him that forgiveness, although only partially. Wearing a Litecoin shirt is good but wearing a Bitcoin shirt is much better and would be more appreciated. Nevertheless, yes, he could be "our guy" in this fight. I'm now considering placing a bet on him on this one. Grin

However, as I've said, this is just a match purely for fun and money for the promoters and organizers. But I am not even sure of the fun part. Well, it might really be fun if he's going to be wearing gloves printed with Bitcoin logo on them. Grin

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January 29, 2021, 09:34:19 AM
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I heard there was multiple people that were offered money to fight Jake Paul. Bisping said on a podcast that he was offered a contract, and countered the offer for more, and never heard back. That's a fight I can get behind, just because I believe Jake Paul really needs a reality check. Although, I'm not sure how much of his personality is for the cameras, but it seems that a lot of people within that space has claimed he's also very much the same off camera.
Michael Bisping could easily defeat Jake Paul but he is having a problem with the eye sight and it is not a secret anymore and the opponents can come up with a game plan that could hit him around his weaker eye. Jake Paul and Logan Paul made a career with social media presence and his brother became notorious when he posted the video of a dead body and i wont be surprised if they are crazy in real life as well Grin
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January 29, 2021, 09:53:31 AM
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I didn't know Ben  is a crypto enthusiast, I'm glad to see that picture, it's a big help to promote bitcoin to the public.

Actually it would be nice if some big crypto holders would help to promote the fight, I actually saw a fight before an MMA fight that there was a crypto picture displayed in the ring, I just don't know the exact name of crypto but I'm sure it's a crypto coin since I keep checking the market regularly.

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January 29, 2021, 09:59:23 AM
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I noticed that a fight like this is commonly happening nowadays, a mismatch fighting or a different field of fighters will be in one ring so the other would take advantage for sure this would be just for money or for charity, hoping that the prizes would be going to charity if that so then I would support this fight. I don't know both fighters so I will not support them if that would not be for charity.

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January 29, 2021, 10:48:59 AM
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LOL! But yeah, we could give him that forgiveness, although only partially. Wearing a Litecoin shirt is good but wearing a Bitcoin shirt is much better and would be more appreciated. Nevertheless, yes, he could be "our guy" in this fight. I'm now considering placing a bet on him on this one. Grin

However, as I've said, this is just a match purely for fun and money for the promoters and organizers. But I am not even sure of the fun part. Well, it might really be fun if he's going to be wearing gloves printed with Bitcoin logo on them. Grin

I guess Ben could get free stickers from here and add to his sports wear lol Cheesy

As this is all about "fun and money", Jakes brother fight Floyd Mayweather, I wonder if Paul family has other relatives that once to fight? About 23-24 years ago (dont remember precisely) I've trained Taekwondo for a year and got a yellow belt. I can fight Pauls family member wearing bitcointalk.org temporary tattoo Cheesy

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January 29, 2021, 11:10:02 AM
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I noticed that a fight like this is commonly happening nowadays, a mismatch fighting or a different field of fighters will be in one ring so the other would take advantage for sure this would be just for money or for charity, hoping that the prizes would be going to charity if that so then I would support this fight. I don't know both fighters so I will not support them if that would not be for charity.

According to the betting odds, the fight is not a mismatch.

Look at the betting odds in https://www.covers.com/boxing/jake-paul-ben-askren-odds, it doesn't look like a mismatch.



The odds tells us about the real chances of the game, not those bias articles we read, so even if Jake Paul is obviously the favorites, but I don't call it a mismatch.

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January 29, 2021, 11:10:27 AM
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I noticed that a fight like this is commonly happening nowadays, a mismatch fighting or a different field of fighters will be in one ring so the other would take advantage for sure this would be just for money or for charity, hoping that the prizes would be going to charity if that so then I would support this fight. I don't know both fighters so I will not support them if that would not be for charity.

I don't think they are planning anything like that.

This is purely a match and the benefits will be taken by these two "boxers" the same with the producers and "business managers" of this fight. I don't like these kinds of matches where a "boxer" would just fight anyone who he wanted to fight. Is this how easy it is to earn money right now? Still, hoping they would be sending some funds to a charity they will be choosing.
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January 29, 2021, 01:33:26 PM
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Michael Bisping could easily defeat Jake Paul but he is having a problem with the eye sight and it is not a secret anymore and the opponents can come up with a game plan that could hit him around his weaker eye. Jake Paul and Logan Paul made a career with social media presence and his brother became notorious when he posted the video of a dead body and i wont be surprised if they are crazy in real life as well Grin

Yeah, but hes also fought before with that eye, or lack  of eye if you will. Bisping is a machine, and I love the guy. He's probably one of my all time favorite MMA fighters, and hes not a bad commentator either. I do think Bisping would have pieced him up, but I'm not as confident that Ben will. Its a boxing match, and its slightly different to what Ben is used too. Ben, is a wrestler by heart, and unless he can significantly improve his stand up game, I  feel this could be a landslide, with Ben just getting punished.

I don't think Jake is going to KO Ben though. Jake has only fought celebrities before, and I think he thinks its going to be just as easy to knock out a pro.

As for Logan, he at least seems to have made up for his mistake. I don't really believe in branding someone as something when they've only made a mistake. He was a young kid, and doesn't pull the same acts as he used too, so I'm willing to forgive that. Obviously, the family of the man, and those that saw it can have different opinions, but I think he's largely won his reputation back.
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January 29, 2021, 09:35:17 PM
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I noticed that a fight like this is commonly happening nowadays, a mismatch fighting or a different field of fighters will be in one ring so the other would take advantage for sure this would be just for money or for charity, hoping that the prizes would be going to charity if that so then I would support this fight. I don't know both fighters so I will not support them if that would not be for charity.

I don't think they are planning anything like that.

This is purely a match and the benefits will be taken by these two "boxers" the same with the producers and "business managers" of this fight. I don't like these kinds of matches where a "boxer" would just fight anyone who he wanted to fight. Is this how easy it is to earn money right now? Still, hoping they would be sending some funds to a charity they will be choosing.

thats what am thinking. if this is like more of exhibition fight, then at least send some proceeds to any charity org. at least make this worthwhile, right? or are we seeing greedy promoters and boxers here? we all know they are just like "substandard" boxers, one of them is not even a prof boxer. not really worth to pay ppv for them, imo. but we cant deny the fact that they have loyal followers so they will be banking on those followers to earn from this fight.

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January 29, 2021, 09:51:01 PM
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I noticed that a fight like this is commonly happening nowadays, a mismatch fighting or a different field of fighters will be in one ring so the other would take advantage for sure this would be just for money or for charity, hoping that the prizes would be going to charity if that so then I would support this fight. I don't know both fighters so I will not support them if that would not be for charity.

I don't think they are planning anything like that.

This is purely a match and the benefits will be taken by these two "boxers" the same with the producers and "business managers" of this fight. I don't like these kinds of matches where a "boxer" would just fight anyone who he wanted to fight. Is this how easy it is to earn money right now? Still, hoping they would be sending some funds to a charity they will be choosing.

thats what am thinking. if this is like more of exhibition fight, then at least send some proceeds to any charity org. at least make this worthwhile, right? or are we seeing greedy promoters and boxers here? we all know they are just like "substandard" boxers, one of them is not even a prof boxer. not really worth to pay ppv for them, imo. but we cant deny the fact that they have loyal followers so they will be banking on those followers to earn from this fight.
Arranging up these kind of fights did become quite common on last year and up to now,is this the new way on milking out for ppv sales? Imagine that Mike Tyson  and Jones Jr. didnt really generate that much
even these people  are  known legendaries on boxing world but still not enough on getting recognition.They do still make money  though but  for sure it isnt on something that they were expecting.

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Anything that makes money is good especially PPV because of restrictions to large gatherings, I imagine many industries are struggling with unforeseen revenue failure like this.   I cant blame them for going with anything that works and its labelled exhibition so nobody should be complaining its compromising the sport especially as its not designed to be more then entertainment in a very difficult couple of years.

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I think they are good either way, obviously dont get destroyed in this match would be best but losing even Im not sure is a bad result so long as the desired result occurs which is to garner ticket sales and bring in some money from punters.   If they get the sales then both boxers are gaining from the fight and everyone is happy, if its flaky, unreliable and short unentertaining match then maybe its not likely repeated but I dont think this is meant to be absolutely serious in determining anyone's career.   Jake Paul is clearly just trying to become mainstream from a more virtual acting type sphere, hopefully they both do the training and preparation not to get worn out too early.

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At the end of the day, Ben is a professional fighter that's been tested extensively over his period of fighting. Hes a decent fighter, maybe not someone to get overly excited about, but hes not going to be a pushover. The concerning part is; hes not predominantly a striker, and has spent most of his time wrestling, and has been beaten convincingly in the stand up game. However, we don't really know how well Jake is at throwing hands. At the end of the day, he's fought another Youtuber, and a basketball player. He's looked good I guess, but its easy to look good against those that haven't trained for longer than him. The basketball player did not look like he had a clue on how to fight, how to gauge distance or anything really. It was comical, although you'd expect that, at his profession Basketball he would have schooled Jake. So, what I'm trying to say is Ben wasn't the best striker in MMA, but he was against other professional fighters, and its always harder than being in a fight with a Youtuber. I think the whole MMA scene is hoping that Ben doesn't lose, or at least not convincingly.

I just can't see him losing convincingly. He's a professional fighter, and has taken a few beatdowns in his life that's for sure. However, I don't think Jake will have the power, or the volume to bother Ben in that regard. This fight is determined whether or not Ben can land punches. If he can, I think Jake will be the one in trouble, if not Ben's going to have an headache, as I absolutely cannot see him getting knocked out by Jake.

I haven't checked the odds yet, and I'm not even sure I'm going to watch this event yet. However, I suspect that Ben might have some decent odds despite his professional background?
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February 02, 2021, 12:15:56 AM
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Wait what?! The Ben Askren that was on the receiving end of the fastest KO in the UFC history? An MMA fighter who specializes in wrestling is competing in a fist fight Grin Is this fight for charity? If yes, I'll support it. If not, I hope nobody buys tickets/PPVs.
That's the Ben Askren, if my knowledge serves, it is against Masvidal. I don't know about Askren specializing in wrestling being a problem, in my opinion it is not a problem, Askren got a 19-2 record to back up his reputation although the Masvidal's knee kick really did him good. No matter what we are hoping for, people that support Jake Paul will buy those tickets and other people who wants to watch it will always buy one, one thing that I hope is that it is for charity.

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