Title: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: bisdak40 on February 01, 2021, 01:06:04 PM https://i.imgur.com/uVeMXc7.jpg
ctto Date: February 20, 2021 Venue: MGM Grand, Nevada This fight has the potential to be the fight of the year so i think as boxing fans we have to discuss it here on who are you betting to win this fight and the good thing is that the betting odds at the moment is not one sided. Battle between two Mexicans who happen to be both a knockout artist. The champion, Berchelt have won his last six fights via KO while the challenger Valdez, who is undefeated and 126 pound champion will move up to challenge the champion. Odds at the moment: Miguel Berchelt 1.27 Oscar Valdez 3.45 https://www.badlefthook.com/2020/12/14/22175177/miguel-berchelt-vs-oscar-valdez-new-date-february-20-espn-boxing-news-2020 What are your thoughts on this fight guys? Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Japinat on February 01, 2021, 02:16:14 PM Odds at the moment: Miguel Berchelt 1.27 Oscar Valdez 3.45 https://www.badlefthook.com/2020/12/14/22175177/miguel-berchelt-vs-oscar-valdez-new-date-february-20-espn-boxing-news-2020 What are your thoughts on this fight guys? I'm not familiar with this fight but since the thread was already created and the fight is going to happen this month, I think I'll put my interest to it. The odds is good for the underdog, Oscar Valdez is still undefeated with 22 KOs from 28 wins, I think this kid has a decent KO rate. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: pinggoki on February 01, 2021, 02:50:30 PM Odds at the moment: Miguel Berchelt 1.27 Oscar Valdez 3.45 https://www.badlefthook.com/2020/12/14/22175177/miguel-berchelt-vs-oscar-valdez-new-date-february-20-espn-boxing-news-2020 What are your thoughts on this fight guys? I'm not familiar with this fight but since the thread was already created and the fight is going to happen this month, I think I'll put my interest to it. The odds is good for the underdog, Oscar Valdez is still undefeated with 22 KOs from 28 wins, I think this kid has a decent KO rate. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: freedomgo on February 01, 2021, 03:22:53 PM Miguel Berchelt has 1 loss in his career but he also has a high KO percentage.
33 KOs of 37 fights (https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/553222), that's very impressive, and there's a reason why he is the favorites in this fight. By the way, here are some of the sites that already has the betting odds of this fight. https://www.bitsler.com/en/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/25178976-berchelt-miguel-vs-valdez-oscar https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/matchups/berchelt-miguel-valdez-oscar-5ff4023b558c5664ef1ff7b9 https://www.betbtc.co/fixtures/oscar-valdez-vs-miguel-berchelt-3028825 Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: AakZaki on February 01, 2021, 06:24:12 PM They both have good winning records. Both are the same from Mexico, only different areas of birth. For the match I thought it would be fun. They are both strong. But I wanted Barchelt to win. Because Valdez just gave up his title and moved up to WBC super featherweight. Besides that Barchelt has more competitive experience it will benefit him. I heard that he will also move up to the light class at 61.2 kg if there is an attractive offer. Looks like Barchlet wants to bring good results to enter the light class.
Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: ReiMomo on February 01, 2021, 07:39:28 PM This is an interesting fight for both countries, at this time, I'm in favor of Oscar Valdez since he has a good record than Miguel.
It's 19 days more to go before the fight and here is the countdown and odds from few bookies that at this moment have. https://www.hot-odds.com/game/6307888/miguel-berchelt-vs-oscar-valdez It seems like, Oscar Valdez will the majority choice from bettors. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Hippocrypto on February 01, 2021, 08:27:32 PM https://i.imgur.com/uVeMXc7.jpg ctto Date: February 20, 2021 Venue: MGM Grand, Nevada This fight has the potential to be the fight of the year so i think as boxing fans we have to discuss it here on who are you betting to win this fight and the good thing is that the betting odds at the moment is not one sided. Battle between two Mexicans who happen to be both a knockout artist. The champion, Berchelt have won his last six fights via KO while the challenger Valdez, who is undefeated and 126 pound champion will move up to challenge the champion. Odds at the moment: Miguel Berchelt 1.27 Oscar Valdez 3.45 https://www.badlefthook.com/2020/12/14/22175177/miguel-berchelt-vs-oscar-valdez-new-date-february-20-espn-boxing-news-2020 What are your thoughts on this fight guys? This match would be perfect for the two great fighters, but my thoughts will be favor for Berchelt based on the record he had. Boxing fans loved to pick which of these guys they'll able to see hard punches towards their choosen boxer, however we don't know what the challenger prepared in order to bet his opponent. Some also wanted to bet for the challenger, as hype stories tends to eradicate promoting some nice speculations. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Sanitough on February 01, 2021, 09:15:31 PM It seems like, Oscar Valdez will the majority choice from bettors. That's not correct, Berchelt has the 1.27 betting odds hence, he is the favorites to win the fight, the lower the betting odds means the higher the chances to win and that makes Berchelt the favorites. Check on this post, he attached the betting odds from different sportsbook/ :) ~snip~ Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: bisdak40 on February 04, 2021, 01:54:36 PM I'm not familiar with this fight but since the thread was already created and the fight is going to happen this month, I think I'll put my interest to it. The odds is good for the underdog, Oscar Valdez is still undefeated with 22 KOs from 28 wins, I think this kid has a decent KO rate. That's one of the reason why i'm making a thread about this fight, though Oscar Valdez is moving up in weight to fight Berchelt, he had a decent chance of defeating the champ. In terms of the quality of opponents both fighters have faced, Berchelt have the advantage and this maybe the reason why bookies have put him the favorite but with the KO rate of both fighters i think this won't go the distance and it could go either way and if odds for a KO win for Valdez is very tempting then i would not hesitate to pull the trigger :). Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: robelneo on February 04, 2021, 03:29:46 PM I have to spend more than thirty minutes checking about the status and style of both fighters, and I have to agree that this is going to be a making-of good fight both fighters love to go all out, both are slugger and do not back out of a fight although Miguel Berchelt is the champion and his title is on the line, Valdez has a good chance, I hope a link to a fight will be posted here, with both fighters having a good knock percentage, the fight will end in a knock out I'll go for Valdez, with a slight advantage.
Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: sunsilk on February 05, 2021, 09:13:39 AM I am not familiar too with these mexican fighters. The odd is interesting and it is obvious who has the upperhand and who is the underdog for this match.
Does anyone have notable highlights videos for both boxers? or they are searchable on YT? I'll watch it first before thinking if it's worth to take the odds for Valdez. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: bisdak40 on February 05, 2021, 10:29:59 AM I am not familiar too with these mexican fighters. The odd is interesting and it is obvious who has the upperhand and who is the underdog for this match. Does anyone have notable highlights videos for both boxers? or they are searchable on YT? I'll watch it first before thinking if it's worth to take the odds for Valdez. Oscar Valdez is the one who handed Genesis Servania his first career lose in boxing. Servania, a former ALA fighter was once considered the future of Philippine boxing but that have changed when Oscar Valdez beat him. Attached a highlight of their fight, see below. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYxXsVCAuoo Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Baofeng on February 05, 2021, 03:54:37 PM To add to that, this fight has been brewing since last year, but has to be postponed because Berchelt was tested positive of Covid-19. So take this in consideration when you are going to bet on this fight. If the fight goes to distance, maybe just maybe it can affect him physically. So I hope that is not the case for Berchelt here.
But I agree, this is a battle of two champions, Mexican blood flowing in their veins so this will be war and this will probably might not go to distance and end up with a KO. Odds are good for Oscar Valdez, (wink, wink), ;) Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: btc_angela on February 05, 2021, 09:34:07 PM I have to spend more than thirty minutes checking about the status and style of both fighters, and I have to agree that this is going to be a making-of good fight both fighters love to go all out, both are slugger and do not back out of a fight although Miguel Berchelt is the champion and his title is on the line, Valdez has a good chance, I hope a link to a fight will be posted here, with both fighters having a good knock percentage, the fight will end in a knock out I'll go for Valdez, with a slight advantage. Miguel Berchelt had that belt for a long time and he is pure destruction. Yes, both are slugger so this is really going to be a total Mexican brawl. Both has tougher chin as well and can get up of the canvass and continue to fight. Valdez is the one going up in weight here. But I still favour the champion, he has been in many wars and I would say more battle tested than Oscar Valdez. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Saisher on February 05, 2021, 09:58:13 PM I have not heard of both fighters but watching their videos made me excited on the fight because fighters are willing to slug it out, both fighters are knock out artist and flatfooted and will not back down to a fight, we love to see real fights and we might see this on this fight, bookmark it, I think Berchelt has the edge here.
Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: AmoreJaz on February 05, 2021, 10:02:22 PM I have not heard of both fighters but watching their videos made me excited on the fight because fighters are willing to slug it out, both fighters are knock out artist and flatfooted and will not back down to a fight, we love to see real fights and we might see this on this fight, bookmark it, I think Berchelt has the edge here. toe-to-toe fight is really good to watch not a boring one. am not really familiar with these 2 but checking their KO stats, quite impressive. so we will see war inside the ring here. lets see... berchelt is the favourite right now, but i believe the odds will change once the fight is getting near. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Questat on February 05, 2021, 10:08:31 PM I have not heard of both fighters but watching their videos made me excited on the fight because fighters are willing to slug it out, both fighters are knock out artist and flatfooted and will not back down to a fight, we love to see real fights and we might see this on this fight, bookmark it, I think Berchelt has the edge here. toe-to-toe fight is really good to watch not a boring one. am not really familiar with these 2 but checking their KO stats, quite impressive. so we will see war inside the ring here. lets see... berchelt is the favourite right now, but i believe the odds will change once the fight is getting near. For what reason you think the odds will change? The line opened at 1.27 for Miguel Berchelt, it's not a 50/50 chances fight for both boxers according to bookies, so no reason the line will significantly changes, unless there some unexpected things that will happen. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: TravelMug on February 06, 2021, 01:58:35 AM I have not heard of both fighters but watching their videos made me excited on the fight because fighters are willing to slug it out, both fighters are knock out artist and flatfooted and will not back down to a fight, we love to see real fights and we might see this on this fight, bookmark it, I think Berchelt has the edge here. toe-to-toe fight is really good to watch not a boring one. am not really familiar with these 2 but checking their KO stats, quite impressive. so we will see war inside the ring here. lets see... berchelt is the favourite right now, but i believe the odds will change once the fight is getting near. For sure, when two Mexican faces in the ring, it's always a war and not a boring fight. No surprised that Miguel Berchelt is the slight favourite, but we can't discount the fact that Oscar Valdez is also a champion and going up in weight class to challenge Berchelt. I think the winner here will be the most active fighters each and every round, throwing everything with bad intentions or to knock out each other. The odds will remain that though, I'm not seeing any flip as the fight gets near. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: sunsilk on February 06, 2021, 11:09:28 AM I am not familiar too with these mexican fighters. The odd is interesting and it is obvious who has the upperhand and who is the underdog for this match. Does anyone have notable highlights videos for both boxers? or they are searchable on YT? I'll watch it first before thinking if it's worth to take the odds for Valdez. Oscar Valdez is the one who handed Genesis Servania his first career lose in boxing. Servania, a former ALA fighter was once considered the future of Philippine boxing but that have changed when Oscar Valdez beat him. Attached a highlight of their fight, see below. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYxXsVCAuoo I've watched the highlight and I can say that he has endurance and strong punches. I also didn't know that he's too popular or mean to say that his match with Servania from 2017 because it has a million views. Damn, I'm missing a lot in the boxing industry. I only knew those popular matches. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Yaunfitda on February 06, 2021, 11:43:46 AM To add to that, this fight has been brewing since last year, but has to be postponed because Berchelt was tested positive of Covid-19. So take this in consideration when you are going to bet on this fight. If the fight goes to distance, maybe just maybe it can affect him physically. So I hope that is not the case for Berchelt here. Just curious, have we seen boxers who have been infected by the virus and then comeback and fight and then lose some steam because of the effect?But I agree, this is a battle of two champions, Mexican blood flowing in their veins so this will be war and this will probably might not go to distance and end up with a KO. Odds are good for Oscar Valdez, (wink, wink), ;) That's what we love about Mexicans and that's why there are rivalries even from Mexicans themselves. But we love to see Mexicans vs Filipinos or Mexicans vs Puerto Ricans. But in this case I will go with the champion Berchelt he will be too much for Valdez. But this has the making of probably another Barerra vs Morales.Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Twinkledoe on February 06, 2021, 11:00:05 PM This fight has the potential to be the fight of the year so i think as boxing fans we have to discuss it here on who are you betting to win this fight and the good thing is that the betting odds at the moment is not one sided. Battle between two Mexicans who happen to be both a knockout artist. The champion, Berchelt have won his last six fights via KO while the challenger Valdez, who is undefeated and 126 pound champion will move up to challenge the champion. After watching highlights of both fighters I will be excited to watch this match it's going to be a slug fest as the two depicted a real Mexican warrior in the obviously Miguel Berchelt has the edge here but I'm sure is there will be a knock out and it could go either way as both possesses big punch and an eagerness to knock out his opponent Definitely, we will see a war inside the ring here. At least for once, this should not be a boring fight. They need to prove that Mexican are real warriors inside the ring. Both have good boxing records so I guess, they will not fail us to give a good show here. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: plr on February 06, 2021, 11:14:06 PM Definitely, we will see a war inside the ring here. At least for once, this should not be a boring fight. They need to prove that Mexican are real warriors inside the ring. Both have good boxing records so I guess, they will not fail us to give a good show here. There is a saying in boxing style makes fight and this is what instances where you will see two slugger fight it out, we hope they will not fail our expectation, both fighters love to go all out and since it is a title fight, we'll see two great Mexican warriors slug it out all out for the title. I'll go for Miguel Berchelt he has a better win and knockout percentage coming to this fight. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: TravelMug on February 07, 2021, 01:18:21 AM This fight has the potential to be the fight of the year so i think as boxing fans we have to discuss it here on who are you betting to win this fight and the good thing is that the betting odds at the moment is not one sided. Battle between two Mexicans who happen to be both a knockout artist. The champion, Berchelt have won his last six fights via KO while the challenger Valdez, who is undefeated and 126 pound champion will move up to challenge the champion. After watching highlights of both fighters I will be excited to watch this match it's going to be a slug fest as the two depicted a real Mexican warrior in the obviously Miguel Berchelt has the edge here but I'm sure is there will be a knock out and it could go either way as both possesses big punch and an eagerness to knock out his opponent Definitely, we will see a war inside the ring here. At least for once, this should not be a boring fight. They need to prove that Mexican are real warriors inside the ring. Both have good boxing records so I guess, they will not fail us to give a good show here. Mexicans have been throughout boxing history, has been a warrior. And I agree at least in this pandemic we will see a slug fest, fist for fist, although Miguel Berchelt has the edge but Oscar Valdez has also a knock out punch that can really change the fight. In the fight goes to 12 rounds, we will see a bloodbath here. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Russlenat on February 07, 2021, 11:12:17 AM This fight has the potential to be the fight of the year so i think as boxing fans we have to discuss it here on who are you betting to win this fight and the good thing is that the betting odds at the moment is not one sided. Battle between two Mexicans who happen to be both a knockout artist. The champion, Berchelt have won his last six fights via KO while the challenger Valdez, who is undefeated and 126 pound champion will move up to challenge the champion. After watching highlights of both fighters I will be excited to watch this match it's going to be a slug fest as the two depicted a real Mexican warrior in the obviously Miguel Berchelt has the edge here but I'm sure is there will be a knock out and it could go either way as both possesses big punch and an eagerness to knock out his opponent Definitely, we will see a war inside the ring here. At least for once, this should not be a boring fight. They need to prove that Mexican are real warriors inside the ring. Both have good boxing records so I guess, they will not fail us to give a good show here. Mexicans have been throughout boxing history, has been a warrior. And I agree at least in this pandemic we will see a slug fest, fist for fist, although Miguel Berchelt has the edge but Oscar Valdez has also a knock out punch that can really change the fight. In the fight goes to 12 rounds, we will see a bloodbath here. I have never seen any of their full fight but based on their record, we can tell that they are really a slugger and that's what fans would really want to see. Mexicans and Filipinos should be the model in boxing, they give an entertaining fight, unlike other fighters where they just hit, clinch and run. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Baofeng on February 07, 2021, 09:43:34 PM One thing that Oscar Valdez has is his coach, Eddie Reynoso, the man behind the success of Canelo Alvarez and Ryan Garcia, the trainer of the year. So Valdez is very confident that he can upset the champion because he has the best trainer in boxing right now. Maybe Reynoso has found some loophole on Berchelt (although this guy has no defense) that they can exploit. Good game plan + training hard = success. So let's see what surprise Valdez will do in the ring against a durable Berchelt.
Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: robelneo on February 07, 2021, 10:30:39 PM One thing that Oscar Valdez has is his coach, Eddie Reynoso, the man behind the success of Canelo Alvarez and Ryan Garcia, the trainer of the year. So Valdez is very confident that he can upset the champion because he has the best trainer in boxing right now. Maybe Reynoso has found some loophole on Berchelt (although this guy has no defense) that they can exploit. Good game plan + training hard = success. So let's see what surprise Valdez will do in the ring against a durable Berchelt. Eddie Reynoso is a great trainer, he can contribute a lot in this fight, but it will all go down to his fighting heart and his training and of course power and style, they are very much similar in style, we always like to see boxers who go all out, because they have the same style that makes this an exciting bout there's a saying style makes the fight, even though both fighters are not well known this is not going to be a boring fight. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Kemarit on February 08, 2021, 12:04:43 AM One thing that Oscar Valdez has is his coach, Eddie Reynoso, the man behind the success of Canelo Alvarez and Ryan Garcia, the trainer of the year. So Valdez is very confident that he can upset the champion because he has the best trainer in boxing right now. Maybe Reynoso has found some loophole on Berchelt (although this guy has no defense) that they can exploit. Good game plan + training hard = success. So let's see what surprise Valdez will do in the ring against a durable Berchelt. Eddie Reynoso is a great trainer, he can contribute a lot in this fight, but it will all go down to his fighting heart and his training and of course power and style, they are very much similar in style, we always like to see boxers who go all out, because they have the same style that makes this an exciting bout there's a saying style makes the fight, even though both fighters are not well known this is not going to be a boring fight. Yes, this is a tailor made fight, both have the same style of just fighting forward and throw as many punch as they can to hurt the other side. And with Eddie Reynoso at Valdez side, they could come up a plan that can offset's Berchelt. It could be more head movement for Valdez and then increasing the body attacks as they move along or as the fight progresses. Both possesses strong stamina, so I guess Valdez will really have to train for that and increase it so that he can remain fresh in this fight. Or just picking his punch to not gas out. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: FinneysTrueVision on February 08, 2021, 12:22:04 AM This fight is going to be an all out war for however long it lasts. Berchelt has lost by knockout before but it was a long time ago. Valdez does not really have much defense and his chin is kind of questionable. I favor Berchelt because he is a better rounded fighter and has a high knockout percentage.
Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Lorence.xD on February 08, 2021, 03:13:18 AM They are both orthodox but Berchelt has the reach and height advantage, in terms of experience they both are not that far away from each other with Berchelt having 36 wins under his belt and Valdez having a good undefeated record, in power advantage Berchelt definitely has the power advantage on this one and the age is also a factor too, with Berchelt younger than Valdez by 1 year, and experience wise, Berchelt does have one too. The odds are lower on Berchelt which means that the chances that he win will be higher but an upset can be expected.
Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Fredomago on February 08, 2021, 03:37:54 AM They are both orthodox but Berchelt has the reach and height advantage, in terms of experience they both are not that far away from each other with Berchelt having 36 wins under his belt and Valdez having a good undefeated record, in power advantage Berchelt definitely has the power advantage on this one and the age is also a factor too, with Berchelt younger than Valdez by 1 year, and experience wise, Berchelt does have one too. The odds are lower on Berchelt which means that the chances that he win will be higher but an upset can be expected. Upset is always present inside boxing or any sports events. Even there are reviews that provides good information in regard with advantages but chances is always for both sides. You can use those previous fights as basis for reviewing which fighter have a good shapes and have a good killing instinct, in which if giving an opportunities to knock the opponent down it will grab that chance immidiately. I'll be going to check this out during the live fight, before placing bet. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Lorence.xD on February 08, 2021, 04:19:46 AM ~ Upset is always present inside boxing or any sports events. Even there are reviews that provides good information in regard with advantages but chances is always for both sides.You can use those previous fights as basis for reviewing which fighter have a good shapes and have a good killing instinct, in which if giving an opportunities to knock the opponent down it will grab that chance immidiately. I'll be going to check this out during the live fight, before placing bet. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: bisdak40 on February 08, 2021, 12:32:22 PM One thing that Oscar Valdez has is his coach, Eddie Reynoso, the man behind the success of Canelo Alvarez and Ryan Garcia, the trainer of the year. So Valdez is very confident that he can upset the champion because he has the best trainer in boxing right now. Maybe Reynoso has found some loophole on Berchelt (although this guy has no defense) that they can exploit. Good game plan + training hard = success. So let's see what surprise Valdez will do in the ring against a durable Berchelt. This statement is backed by Top Rank honcho himself, Bob Arum. Quote Bob Arum: Eddy Reynoso Sees Something In Berchelt That Valdez Can Exploit Being the architect of this fight, he would do everything on his power to hype this fight and in fairness to him, boxing fans who love to see a brawl, this might be it. But wonder though, why does they avoid Shakur Stevenson as that might be an easier fight than this one. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Baofeng on February 08, 2021, 09:59:15 PM One thing that Oscar Valdez has is his coach, Eddie Reynoso, the man behind the success of Canelo Alvarez and Ryan Garcia, the trainer of the year. So Valdez is very confident that he can upset the champion because he has the best trainer in boxing right now. Maybe Reynoso has found some loophole on Berchelt (although this guy has no defense) that they can exploit. Good game plan + training hard = success. So let's see what surprise Valdez will do in the ring against a durable Berchelt. This statement is backed by Top Rank honcho himself, Bob Arum. Quote Bob Arum: Eddy Reynoso Sees Something In Berchelt That Valdez Can Exploit Being the architect of this fight, he would do everything on his power to hype this fight and in fairness to him, boxing fans who love to see a brawl, this might be it. But wonder though, why does they avoid Shakur Stevenson as that might be an easier fight than this one. Probably for a bigger pay day, later on if the play fall into pieces, they will go after Shakur Stevenson as well. At least they have taken down the biggest hurdle and then Shakur will just be the icing in the cake for them as they will have majority of the belts by that time. As far as Reynoso goes, there could be argument that he is just overhype, the argument goes that it is still the boxer who performed inside the ring. Just like when Roach because the trainer of the year because of Pacquaio an several other good boxers in his stable. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: gagux123 on February 08, 2021, 10:13:38 PM Well, I didn't know this fight either, I did a brief survey of both fighters and I realized that it will be an interesting fight.
In my opinion I think Oscar Valdez has a good chance of win, because he is undefeated. But in sports, anything can happen! Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Viscore on February 08, 2021, 10:24:50 PM Well, I didn't know this fight either, I did a brief survey of both fighters and I realized that it will be an interesting fight. In my opinion I think Oscar Valdez has a good chance of win, because he is undefeated. But in sports, anything can happen! Not all undefeated are good, just like Callum Smith (https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/631178), he fought Canelo Alvarez when he was undefeated and yet he lose in a unanimous decision, mind you, Canelo has 1 loss in his career but he has been fighting a quality opponents in his career that's why Canelo was the favorite to win, same here, Miguel Berchelt is the favorite to win. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: gagux123 on February 08, 2021, 10:43:10 PM Well, I didn't know this fight either, I did a brief survey of both fighters and I realized that it will be an interesting fight. In my opinion I think Oscar Valdez has a good chance of win, because he is undefeated. But in sports, anything can happen! Not all undefeated are good, just like Callum Smith (https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/631178), he fought Canelo Alvarez when he was undefeated and yet he lose in a unanimous decision, mind you, Canelo has 1 loss in his career but he has been fighting a quality opponents in his career that's why Canelo was the favorite to win, same here, Miguel Berchelt is the favorite to win. I'm not a boxing expert, I'm just a gambler (lol), but as I said above, in sports anything can happen. (that is my humble opinion.) Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Questat on February 08, 2021, 10:53:49 PM Well, I didn't know this fight either, I did a brief survey of both fighters and I realized that it will be an interesting fight. In my opinion I think Oscar Valdez has a good chance of win, because he is undefeated. But in sports, anything can happen! Not all undefeated are good, just like Callum Smith (https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/631178), he fought Canelo Alvarez when he was undefeated and yet he lose in a unanimous decision, mind you, Canelo has 1 loss in his career but he has been fighting a quality opponents in his career that's why Canelo was the favorite to win, same here, Miguel Berchelt is the favorite to win. I'm not a boxing expert, I'm just a gambler (lol), but as I said above, in sports anything can happen. (that is my humble opinion.) Anything can happen in boxing, just like Lopez upsetting Lomachenko and Ruiz upsetting Anthony Joshua. Both of these fighters are though not all of them are undefeated, it was only Lopez who is undefeated but we thought he has "no match" against No-Mas-Chencko but he won, so you are right mate, anything can happen, good thing they are underdog it's more attractive in betting. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: yazher on February 09, 2021, 02:18:43 AM They both have good winning records. Both are the same from Mexico, only different areas of birth. For the match I thought it would be fun. They are both strong. But I wanted Barchelt to win. Because Valdez just gave up his title and moved up to WBC super featherweight. Besides that Barchelt has more competitive experience it will benefit him. I heard that he will also move up to the light class at 61.2 kg if there is an attractive offer. Looks like Barchlet wants to bring good results to enter the light class. This is like watching the Morales vs Barrera fight where both of them from the same country as well and have something to get excited for when they face each other in the ring. I think if this fight comes close or they won't knock out each other after the end of the fight, we will see them fight again. They should trash talk each other before the fight more likely in the interview so this fight will be exciting to watch. They haven't had some popularity in the other country, they really need that to increase the market if they ever want to fight again in the ring. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Baofeng on February 10, 2021, 09:04:37 PM Pre-fight weight requirements (14 days):
Miguel Berchelt - 136 lbs Oscar Valdez - 136.4 lbs So the two fighters are within the limit now, and should be fine shredding the excess weight in the last 2 weeks leading to their fight. https://www.boxingscene.com/14-day-weights-miguel-berchelt-136-pounds-oscar-valdez-1364--155312 Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Bitcoinislife09 on February 10, 2021, 09:44:38 PM This could be the best fight this 2021 in professional boxing I think its schedule is Feb 20. Oscar Valdez always gives it a good fight in boxing right these two Mexican boxers both have a good record as well. But I think it's gonna be a knockout on the side of Miguel Berchelt I think with a good counterpunch he could easily finish Valdez based on the past performance. His combination of punches and boxing style is I think a much stronger technique compared to Valdez. But at least Valdez is finally going to fight someone that is good and it's gonna be an interesting fight for sure.
Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: bisdak40 on February 10, 2021, 09:53:38 PM One thing that Oscar Valdez has is his coach, Eddie Reynoso, the man behind the success of Canelo Alvarez and Ryan Garcia, the trainer of the year. So Valdez is very confident that he can upset the champion because he has the best trainer in boxing right now. Maybe Reynoso has found some loophole on Berchelt (although this guy has no defense) that they can exploit. Good game plan + training hard = success. So let's see what surprise Valdez will do in the ring against a durable Berchelt. This statement is backed by Top Rank honcho himself, Bob Arum. Quote Bob Arum: Eddy Reynoso Sees Something In Berchelt That Valdez Can Exploit Being the architect of this fight, he would do everything on his power to hype this fight and in fairness to him, boxing fans who love to see a brawl, this might be it. But wonder though, why does they avoid Shakur Stevenson as that might be an easier fight than this one. Probably for a bigger pay day, later on if the play fall into pieces, they will go after Shakur Stevenson as well. At least they have taken down the biggest hurdle and then Shakur will just be the icing in the cake for them as they will have majority of the belts by that time. As far as Reynoso goes, there could be argument that he is just overhype, the argument goes that it is still the boxer who performed inside the ring. Just like when Roach because the trainer of the year because of Pacquaio an several other good boxers in his stable. I may agree with this but i would sat that trainer plays a big role on a fight as he is the one studying the strength and weakness of the opponent and the boxer's job is just to focus on training. Manny Pacquaio is a one-handed fighter when he came to the Wild Card gym and coach Roach introduce to him the Manila Ice ;D, which victimized Ricky Hatton lol. Bottom line, trainers are a big help to the career of the boxers, takes two to tango as they say. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Questat on February 10, 2021, 10:49:58 PM One thing that Oscar Valdez has is his coach, Eddie Reynoso, the man behind the success of Canelo Alvarez and Ryan Garcia, the trainer of the year. So Valdez is very confident that he can upset the champion because he has the best trainer in boxing right now. Maybe Reynoso has found some loophole on Berchelt (although this guy has no defense) that they can exploit. Good game plan + training hard = success. So let's see what surprise Valdez will do in the ring against a durable Berchelt. This statement is backed by Top Rank honcho himself, Bob Arum. Quote Bob Arum: Eddy Reynoso Sees Something In Berchelt That Valdez Can Exploit Being the architect of this fight, he would do everything on his power to hype this fight and in fairness to him, boxing fans who love to see a brawl, this might be it. But wonder though, why does they avoid Shakur Stevenson as that might be an easier fight than this one. Probably for a bigger pay day, later on if the play fall into pieces, they will go after Shakur Stevenson as well. At least they have taken down the biggest hurdle and then Shakur will just be the icing in the cake for them as they will have majority of the belts by that time. As far as Reynoso goes, there could be argument that he is just overhype, the argument goes that it is still the boxer who performed inside the ring. Just like when Roach because the trainer of the year because of Pacquaio an several other good boxers in his stable. I may agree with this but i would sat that trainer plays a big role on a fight as he is the one studying the strength and weakness of the opponent and the boxer's job is just to focus on training. Manny Pacquaio is a one-handed fighter when he came to the Wild Card gym and coach Roach introduce to him the Manila Ice ;D, which victimized Ricky Hatton lol. Bottom line, trainers are a big help to the career of the boxers, takes two to tango as they say. Definitely I agree with you on that, Manny was more on a slugger in a fight, but he slowly learn his way to fight with good defense and develop himself into a complete fighter. Some boxers only change trainer when they are already familiar with what to do in the fight, probably to lessened the experience but Manny did not do that to roach although he is not the lead coach now but he is still in the corner for Manny. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Kemarit on February 10, 2021, 11:49:16 PM Pre-fight weight requirements (14 days): Miguel Berchelt - 136 lbs Oscar Valdez - 136.4 lbs So the two fighters are within the limit now, and should be fine shredding the excess weight in the last 2 weeks leading to their fight. https://www.boxingscene.com/14-day-weights-miguel-berchelt-136-pounds-oscar-valdez-1364--155312 Looking at Miguel Berchelt, looks like he is the more physically fit, after all he is the champion and definitely comfortable in this weight. Surprised though that Valdez is somewhat getting bigger and then he has to cut weight more weight in 14 days. I understand that he is coming up in weight and that is good, but it seems he overdo it. Anyway, I'm no expert here, just sharing my own opinion. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: mu_enrico on February 11, 2021, 05:30:17 AM This fight has a deep history. It goes beyond their career as a pro boxer to an amateur one. You guys should watch this documentary (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPNLEZCyUeo). I think I'm rooting for Valdez as he trains with Canelo's trainer and was superior in amateur boxing. The big downside is Valdez's jaw since he broke his jaw vs Scott Quigg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovbm5vJqJco).
Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Baofeng on February 11, 2021, 09:38:09 PM One thing that Oscar Valdez has is his coach, Eddie Reynoso, the man behind the success of Canelo Alvarez and Ryan Garcia, the trainer of the year. So Valdez is very confident that he can upset the champion because he has the best trainer in boxing right now. Maybe Reynoso has found some loophole on Berchelt (although this guy has no defense) that they can exploit. Good game plan + training hard = success. So let's see what surprise Valdez will do in the ring against a durable Berchelt. This statement is backed by Top Rank honcho himself, Bob Arum. Quote Bob Arum: Eddy Reynoso Sees Something In Berchelt That Valdez Can Exploit Being the architect of this fight, he would do everything on his power to hype this fight and in fairness to him, boxing fans who love to see a brawl, this might be it. But wonder though, why does they avoid Shakur Stevenson as that might be an easier fight than this one. Probably for a bigger pay day, later on if the play fall into pieces, they will go after Shakur Stevenson as well. At least they have taken down the biggest hurdle and then Shakur will just be the icing in the cake for them as they will have majority of the belts by that time. As far as Reynoso goes, there could be argument that he is just overhype, the argument goes that it is still the boxer who performed inside the ring. Just like when Roach because the trainer of the year because of Pacquaio an several other good boxers in his stable. I may agree with this but i would sat that trainer plays a big role on a fight as he is the one studying the strength and weakness of the opponent and the boxer's job is just to focus on training. Manny Pacquaio is a one-handed fighter when he came to the Wild Card gym and coach Roach introduce to him the Manila Ice ;D, which victimized Ricky Hatton lol. Bottom line, trainers are a big help to the career of the boxers, takes two to tango as they say. Yes mate, I agree with that, but we all know that there are haters around, discounting trainers or boxing coach. Roach introduce him the right now, that put Hatton and many others, even Miguel Cotto because they always underestimate and think that Manny has only the left hand. So let's see how he will develop Oscar Valdez because he is on a tough opposition against a bigger and stronger Miguel Berchelt. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: TravelMug on February 12, 2021, 12:30:32 AM Pre-fight weight requirements (14 days): Miguel Berchelt - 136 lbs Oscar Valdez - 136.4 lbs So the two fighters are within the limit now, and should be fine shredding the excess weight in the last 2 weeks leading to their fight. https://www.boxingscene.com/14-day-weights-miguel-berchelt-136-pounds-oscar-valdez-1364--155312 Looking at Miguel Berchelt, looks like he is the more physically fit, after all he is the champion and definitely comfortable in this weight. Surprised though that Valdez is somewhat getting bigger and then he has to cut weight more weight in 14 days. I understand that he is coming up in weight and that is good, but it seems he overdo it. Anyway, I'm no expert here, just sharing my own opinion. I think Oscar Valdez is good to go, his abs is visible in the images, so when he cut down to 130 lbs, there will be no significant effect on his body, in my opinion. Of course, Miguel Berchelt will be the bigger guy because this is his natural weight. But there are a lot of boxers going up in weight throughout boxing history that upset the champion so this is still 50:50 and it will definitely can go as one of the best fight for 2021. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Jating on February 12, 2021, 09:06:47 AM Pre-fight weight requirements (14 days): Miguel Berchelt - 136 lbs Oscar Valdez - 136.4 lbs So the two fighters are within the limit now, and should be fine shredding the excess weight in the last 2 weeks leading to their fight. https://www.boxingscene.com/14-day-weights-miguel-berchelt-136-pounds-oscar-valdez-1364--155312 Looking at Miguel Berchelt, looks like he is the more physically fit, after all he is the champion and definitely comfortable in this weight. Surprised though that Valdez is somewhat getting bigger and then he has to cut weight more weight in 14 days. I understand that he is coming up in weight and that is good, but it seems he overdo it. Anyway, I'm no expert here, just sharing my own opinion. I think Oscar Valdez is good to go, his abs is visible in the images, so when he cut down to 130 lbs, there will be no significant effect on his body, in my opinion. Of course, Miguel Berchelt will be the bigger guy because this is his natural weight. But there are a lot of boxers going up in weight throughout boxing history that upset the champion so this is still 50:50 and it will definitely can go as one of the best fight for 2021. Agree, the thing we hear from Oscar Valdez is that he has the best trainer behind and although he is the underdog here, it could be good for him and his team as they could really be motivated to upset Miguel Berchelt, and odds are really very attractive for us gamblers. And as Oscar Valdez's body matures I think he will be a perfect fit for the 130 lbs division and it seems that squeezing 126 lbs will be much harder than losing the additional 6 lbs in this pre weight. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Kasabus on February 12, 2021, 12:39:30 PM Pre-fight weight requirements (14 days): Miguel Berchelt - 136 lbs Oscar Valdez - 136.4 lbs So the two fighters are within the limit now, and should be fine shredding the excess weight in the last 2 weeks leading to their fight. https://www.boxingscene.com/14-day-weights-miguel-berchelt-136-pounds-oscar-valdez-1364--155312 Looking at Miguel Berchelt, looks like he is the more physically fit, after all he is the champion and definitely comfortable in this weight. Surprised though that Valdez is somewhat getting bigger and then he has to cut weight more weight in 14 days. I understand that he is coming up in weight and that is good, but it seems he overdo it. Anyway, I'm no expert here, just sharing my own opinion. I think Oscar Valdez is good to go, his abs is visible in the images, so when he cut down to 130 lbs, there will be no significant effect on his body, in my opinion. Of course, Miguel Berchelt will be the bigger guy because this is his natural weight. But there are a lot of boxers going up in weight throughout boxing history that upset the champion so this is still 50:50 and it will definitely can go as one of the best fight for 2021. Thinking of its chances as 50/50 makes me think of betting on the underdog. Oscar Valdez betting odds now is 3.55 according to the site I'm using now, https://www.playbetr.com/sports. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Botnake on February 12, 2021, 02:05:36 PM Pre-fight weight requirements (14 days): Miguel Berchelt - 136 lbs Oscar Valdez - 136.4 lbs So the two fighters are within the limit now, and should be fine shredding the excess weight in the last 2 weeks leading to their fight. https://www.boxingscene.com/14-day-weights-miguel-berchelt-136-pounds-oscar-valdez-1364--155312 Looking at Miguel Berchelt, looks like he is the more physically fit, after all he is the champion and definitely comfortable in this weight. Surprised though that Valdez is somewhat getting bigger and then he has to cut weight more weight in 14 days. I understand that he is coming up in weight and that is good, but it seems he overdo it. Anyway, I'm no expert here, just sharing my own opinion. I think Oscar Valdez is good to go, his abs is visible in the images, so when he cut down to 130 lbs, there will be no significant effect on his body, in my opinion. Of course, Miguel Berchelt will be the bigger guy because this is his natural weight. But there are a lot of boxers going up in weight throughout boxing history that upset the champion so this is still 50:50 and it will definitely can go as one of the best fight for 2021. Thinking of its chances as 50/50 makes me think of betting on the underdog. Oscar Valdez betting odds now is 3.55 according to the site I'm using now, https://www.playbetr.com/sports. That would be an upset if Valdez would win this fight. Good luck to the bettors who mostly see Oscar Valdez has a good chance because he is the undefeated here. I have no words to say yet but I might also try to play around, let's see, I'm observing the betting odds and see if there's some significant movement. By the way, don't forget this fight will be in less than 2 weeks now. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: YuginKadoya on February 12, 2021, 02:10:31 PM Miguel Berchelt here has a good at the inside and I think this fight could be won by Miguel Berchelt by a stoppage I think that is a possibility Oscar Valdez even though he doesn't have any lost yet doesn't mean he is going to be undefeatable, But both have good combination and power on their strikes but I felt that Miguel Berchelt can surely win this, his NC record was a total win for him against Eleazar Valenzuela, Berchelt declared the winner by TKO and a most notable fight I think he ever made.
Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: bisdak40 on February 12, 2021, 08:54:47 PM That would be an upset if Valdez would win this fight. Good luck to the bettors who mostly see Oscar Valdez has a good chance because he is the undefeated here. I have no words to say yet but I might also try to play around, let's see, I'm observing the betting odds and see if there's some significant movement. By the way, don't forget this fight will be in less than 2 weeks now. This fight is very winnable for Valdez and if that happens, it is not an upset, in my opinion. Odd makers placing Valdez @3.45 vs Berchelt 1.27 at the moment which for is not that bad if you are betting for the defending champion, better than 1.01, the usual odds bookies give to the heavy favorite. One week before the fight, still no option on what to bet except for the ML atm but for sure many attractive odds will be placed 2 or 3 days before the fight. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Baofeng on February 12, 2021, 10:05:32 PM That would be an upset if Valdez would win this fight. Good luck to the bettors who mostly see Oscar Valdez has a good chance because he is the undefeated here. I have no words to say yet but I might also try to play around, let's see, I'm observing the betting odds and see if there's some significant movement. By the way, don't forget this fight will be in less than 2 weeks now. This fight is very winnable for Valdez and if that happens, it is not an upset, in my opinion. Odd makers placing Valdez @3.45 vs Berchelt 1.27 at the moment which for is not that bad if you are betting for the defending champion, better than 1.01, the usual odds bookies give to the heavy favorite. One week before the fight, still no option on what to bet except for the ML atm but for sure many attractive odds will be placed 2 or 3 days before the fight. There will be betting option for us that's for sure and it could be added by our favourite sportbookies as we get closer to the fight. @1.27 still good for those who love to go with the favourites, but again, you have to be a whale and bet big to get a decent profit for Berchelt. Yes, this is winnable for Valdez, and it's going to be exciting match. Still when you are the underdog and wins the fight, then technically it is called an upset. :) Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Russlenat on February 12, 2021, 10:17:26 PM then technically it is called an upset. :) That's really it, normal in any sports because our basis is the betting odds, however, upset happens all the time and it could happen in this fight. Can we compare this fight to the Lopez vs Loma? (https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/vasiliy-lomachenko-vs-teofimo-lopez-odds-date-picks-predictions-from-expert-on-23-2-roll/#:~:text=William%20Hill%20sportsbooks%20peg%20Lomachenko,win%20%24350)%20as%20the%20underdog.) Quote William Hill sportsbooks peg Lomachenko as a -450 favorite (risk $450 to win $100) in the latest Lomachenko vs. Lopez odds, with the American getting +350 (risk $100 to win $350) as the underdog Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: TravelMug on February 13, 2021, 01:26:56 AM then technically it is called an upset. :) That's really it, normal in any sports because our basis is the betting odds, however, upset happens all the time and it could happen in this fight. Can we compare this fight to the Lopez vs Loma? (https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/vasiliy-lomachenko-vs-teofimo-lopez-odds-date-picks-predictions-from-expert-on-23-2-roll/#:~:text=William%20Hill%20sportsbooks%20peg%20Lomachenko,win%20%24350)%20as%20the%20underdog.) Quote William Hill sportsbooks peg Lomachenko as a -450 favorite (risk $450 to win $100) in the latest Lomachenko vs. Lopez odds, with the American getting +350 (risk $100 to win $350) as the underdog Could be, but that time though, Loma is pound for pound and one of the most recognisable name in boxing. And I would say that Miguel Berchelt is not as popular as Loma. But we all expecting a good fight here, probably more exciting that the Loma vs Lopez fight which is more technical. In this case, its two Mexican warrior/brawler who are going to want to knock each other out and as they say, every punch has bad intention. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Baofeng on February 16, 2021, 07:35:41 PM Just some minor issues on Miguel Berchelt's camp:
Berchelt's Trainer, Caballero, Met With Delay Entering U.S. Due To Visa Issue Quote At present moment, there is a chance that he could enter his upcoming WBC junior lightweight title defense without his full corner intact. BoxingScene.com has learned that Alfredo Caballero, Berchelt’s longtime trainer has yet to make his way to the United States due to a discrepancy in his visa application. https://www.boxingscene.com/berchelt-trainer-caballero-met-with-delay-entering-us-due-visa-issue--155481 I think psychologically it might affect Miguel's performance here if his head trainer can't make it on time for this big fight. But we do hope that Caballero can secure his Visa and enter the US, don't want to hear excuses if Miguel lost here and saying that he is stress out not seeing his trainer in his corner. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: bisdak40 on February 16, 2021, 10:04:53 PM Just some minor issues on Miguel Berchelt's camp: Berchelt's Trainer, Caballero, Met With Delay Entering U.S. Due To Visa Issue Quote At present moment, there is a chance that he could enter his upcoming WBC junior lightweight title defense without his full corner intact. BoxingScene.com has learned that Alfredo Caballero, Berchelt’s longtime trainer has yet to make his way to the United States due to a discrepancy in his visa application. https://www.boxingscene.com/berchelt-trainer-caballero-met-with-delay-entering-us-due-visa-issue--155481 I think psychologically it might affect Miguel's performance here if his head trainer can't make it on time for this big fight. But we do hope that Caballero can secure his Visa and enter the US, don't want to hear excuses if Miguel lost here and saying that he is stress out not seeing his trainer in his corner. Just a minor glitch ;D, anything not related to COVID-19 is not a problem nowadays lol. Fans don't want to see this fight being postpone once again. With regards to Miguel Berchelt, if he win this one he would be inching closer to break the record of another Mexican warrior, JCC Sr on the number of WBC Superfeatherweight Title defenses. Julio Cesar Chavez Sr got 9 while Miguel already got 6. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Botnake on February 16, 2021, 10:41:22 PM then technically it is called an upset. :) That's really it, normal in any sports because our basis is the betting odds, however, upset happens all the time and it could happen in this fight. Can we compare this fight to the Lopez vs Loma? (https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/vasiliy-lomachenko-vs-teofimo-lopez-odds-date-picks-predictions-from-expert-on-23-2-roll/#:~:text=William%20Hill%20sportsbooks%20peg%20Lomachenko,win%20%24350)%20as%20the%20underdog.) Quote William Hill sportsbooks peg Lomachenko as a -450 favorite (risk $450 to win $100) in the latest Lomachenko vs. Lopez odds, with the American getting +350 (risk $100 to win $350) as the underdog Could be, but that time though, Loma is pound for pound and one of the most recognisable name in boxing. And I would say that Miguel Berchelt is not as popular as Loma. But we all expecting a good fight here, probably more exciting that the Loma vs Lopez fight which is more technical. In this case, its two Mexican warrior/brawler who are going to want to knock each other out and as they say, every punch has bad intention. I like those words, well, actually I've don't remember any games between mexicans that are boring, they are all warriors and they are good in entertaining the crowd, but there might be no crowd in this game because of covid-19, but still there are fans who will watch it live on their screen. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: TravelMug on February 17, 2021, 01:36:48 AM then technically it is called an upset. :) That's really it, normal in any sports because our basis is the betting odds, however, upset happens all the time and it could happen in this fight. Can we compare this fight to the Lopez vs Loma? (https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/vasiliy-lomachenko-vs-teofimo-lopez-odds-date-picks-predictions-from-expert-on-23-2-roll/#:~:text=William%20Hill%20sportsbooks%20peg%20Lomachenko,win%20%24350)%20as%20the%20underdog.) Quote William Hill sportsbooks peg Lomachenko as a -450 favorite (risk $450 to win $100) in the latest Lomachenko vs. Lopez odds, with the American getting +350 (risk $100 to win $350) as the underdog Could be, but that time though, Loma is pound for pound and one of the most recognisable name in boxing. And I would say that Miguel Berchelt is not as popular as Loma. But we all expecting a good fight here, probably more exciting that the Loma vs Lopez fight which is more technical. In this case, its two Mexican warrior/brawler who are going to want to knock each other out and as they say, every punch has bad intention. I like those words, well, actually I've don't remember any games between mexicans that are boring, they are all warriors and they are good in entertaining the crowd, but there might be no crowd in this game because of covid-19, but still there are fans who will watch it live on their screen. Exactly, Mexicans are warriors inside the ring, and that's why Pacquiao was once called Mexican destroyer and earn a lot of respect not just from the Mexicans but almost all of the boxers up to this day. And for those who are not familiar, the lineage of great super featherweights in the last 15 years includes, Mexicans, JMM, Morales, Barrera and the legendary Manny Pacquiao. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Kemarit on February 17, 2021, 02:10:48 AM Just some minor issues on Miguel Berchelt's camp: Berchelt's Trainer, Caballero, Met With Delay Entering U.S. Due To Visa Issue Quote At present moment, there is a chance that he could enter his upcoming WBC junior lightweight title defense without his full corner intact. BoxingScene.com has learned that Alfredo Caballero, Berchelt’s longtime trainer has yet to make his way to the United States due to a discrepancy in his visa application. https://www.boxingscene.com/berchelt-trainer-caballero-met-with-delay-entering-us-due-visa-issue--155481 I think psychologically it might affect Miguel's performance here if his head trainer can't make it on time for this big fight. But we do hope that Caballero can secure his Visa and enter the US, don't want to hear excuses if Miguel lost here and saying that he is stress out not seeing his trainer in his corner. Just a minor glitch ;D, anything not related to COVID-19 is not a problem nowadays lol. Fans don't want to see this fight being postpone once again. With regards to Miguel Berchelt, if he win this one he would be inching closer to break the record of another Mexican warrior, JCC Sr on the number of WBC Superfeatherweight Title defenses. Julio Cesar Chavez Sr got 9 while Miguel already got 6. Yes, I think their lawyers can straighten things up and I'm sure he will be in the corner of Miguel fight night. And I don't think it will be postponed just because the main trainer is not there, they still have a lot in his corner though. It will be interesting if Miguel can break the record of JCC Sr if he did then he will be in the books as one of the greatest Super Featherweight champion in recent years. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Baofeng on February 17, 2021, 07:56:57 PM Just some minor issues on Miguel Berchelt's camp: Berchelt's Trainer, Caballero, Met With Delay Entering U.S. Due To Visa Issue Quote At present moment, there is a chance that he could enter his upcoming WBC junior lightweight title defense without his full corner intact. BoxingScene.com has learned that Alfredo Caballero, Berchelt’s longtime trainer has yet to make his way to the United States due to a discrepancy in his visa application. https://www.boxingscene.com/berchelt-trainer-caballero-met-with-delay-entering-us-due-visa-issue--155481 I think psychologically it might affect Miguel's performance here if his head trainer can't make it on time for this big fight. But we do hope that Caballero can secure his Visa and enter the US, don't want to hear excuses if Miguel lost here and saying that he is stress out not seeing his trainer in his corner. Just a minor glitch ;D, anything not related to COVID-19 is not a problem nowadays lol. Fans don't want to see this fight being postpone once again. With regards to Miguel Berchelt, if he win this one he would be inching closer to break the record of another Mexican warrior, JCC Sr on the number of WBC Superfeatherweight Title defenses. Julio Cesar Chavez Sr got 9 while Miguel already got 6. Not saying that it will be postponed again, but if Caballero can't secure his Visa and not enter the US fight night, it might create some mental problems with Miguel, hehehe. It will be great to see him breaking Julio Cezar Chavez Sr. record, and another record to remember is that our great Gabriel "Flash" Elorde was the first WBC champ in this division. So if everyone wanted to trace the lineage of WBC super featherweight, it will be Elorde and I think he holds the record as well for the longest title reign at 7 years. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: bisdak40 on February 17, 2021, 10:03:09 PM It will be great to see him breaking Julio Cezar Chavez Sr. record, and another record to remember is that our great Gabriel "Flash" Elorde was the first WBC champ in this division. So if everyone wanted to trace the lineage of WBC super featherweight, it will be Elorde and I think he holds the record as well for the longest title reign at 7 years. Ohh, i didn't know this one, thanks for bringing up this information here bro, learned a lot from you 8). https://i.imgur.com/doe9Pbf.jpg ^^ more options now on what/how to bet and it seems that bookies are not expecting a decision on this fight huh. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: btc_angela on February 17, 2021, 10:11:07 PM Love the options for Oscar Valdez, thanks for showing us the odds, forgot about this one as I'm on the other side of betting (tennis Australian Open).
Attractive odds as he is a live dog here, probably will go for KO/Decision for Oscar. As he has the tools to upset the reigning champion and ruin his chance of breaking the another great Mexican's record in the super featherweight. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Russlenat on February 17, 2021, 10:30:07 PM Love the options for Oscar Valdez, thanks for showing us the odds, forgot about this one as I'm on the other side of betting (tennis Australian Open). Attractive odds as he is a live dog here, probably will go for KO/Decision for Oscar. As he has the tools to upset the reigning champion and ruin his chance of breaking the another great Mexican's record in the super featherweight. Oscar Valdez by decision, such a great odds, would you take that or the Oscar Valdez winning by KO which is at x6. Also, the draw is quite attractive, who knows this game will end up a draw if Oscar Valdez can't take KO the favorites in this fight. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Kemarit on February 18, 2021, 02:00:20 AM Love the options for Oscar Valdez, thanks for showing us the odds, forgot about this one as I'm on the other side of betting (tennis Australian Open). Attractive odds as he is a live dog here, probably will go for KO/Decision for Oscar. As he has the tools to upset the reigning champion and ruin his chance of breaking the another great Mexican's record in the super featherweight. Oscar Valdez by decision, such a great odds, would you take that or the Oscar Valdez winning by KO which is at x6. Also, the draw is quite attractive, who knows this game will end up a draw if Oscar Valdez can't take KO the favorites in this fight. It's really a win-win bet for Oscar Valdez since he is the underdog here. More odds are available and very juicy specially if you see Valdez winning in middle rounds and up through KO/TKO. Although you need to spread out your stake for each round. So better pick only 2-3 rounds to get a big win. https://i.imgur.com/wkNZHSe.png Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: FinneysTrueVision on February 18, 2021, 02:28:48 AM The odds are looking really good if you want to take a risk on Valdez. He is undoubtedly the underdog but if he can score an early knockdown it could change the course of the fight. He is more than capable of pulling off the upset. Anything is possible and that is what makes this bout so exciting.
Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Baofeng on February 18, 2021, 09:35:35 PM It will be great to see him breaking Julio Cezar Chavez Sr. record, and another record to remember is that our great Gabriel "Flash" Elorde was the first WBC champ in this division. So if everyone wanted to trace the lineage of WBC super featherweight, it will be Elorde and I think he holds the record as well for the longest title reign at 7 years. Ohh, i didn't know this one, thanks for bringing up this information here bro, learned a lot from you 8). https://i.imgur.com/doe9Pbf.jpg ^^ more options now on what/how to bet and it seems that bookies are not expecting a decision on this fight huh. Yeah, Flash Elorde was the original belt holder of super featherweight, even WBA. Oscar Valdez all the way for me, by decision or by knock-out in my book. And then I will narrow it down per round a day before the fight. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Dave1 on February 18, 2021, 09:48:03 PM The odds are looking really good if you want to take a risk on Valdez. He is undoubtedly the underdog but if he can score an early knockdown it could change the course of the fight. He is more than capable of pulling off the upset. Anything is possible and that is what makes this bout so exciting. It's a good risk in my opinion, as others have pointed out, he is a live underdog here. Berchelt though is hard to knock down because he has a good good chin. But if Valdez can edge him out and use ring IQ to outscore Berchelt in every round then he has a high chance of winning in the judges scorecard. So yes this is very much as exciting as any other all Mexican fights that we have seen in recent years. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Botnake on February 18, 2021, 10:19:54 PM The odds are looking really good if you want to take a risk on Valdez. He is undoubtedly the underdog but if he can score an early knockdown it could change the course of the fight. He is more than capable of pulling off the upset. Anything is possible and that is what makes this bout so exciting. Love the underdog here and I love how bettors here sees the underdog will win. I don't really know these fighters but based on the record of the underdog, it's very enticing to bet on him, he doesn't loss a single game yet, so that confidence is still flowing in him. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: FinneysTrueVision on February 19, 2021, 12:11:18 AM The odds are looking really good if you want to take a risk on Valdez. He is undoubtedly the underdog but if he can score an early knockdown it could change the course of the fight. He is more than capable of pulling off the upset. Anything is possible and that is what makes this bout so exciting. Love the underdog here and I love how bettors here sees the underdog will win. I don't really know these fighters but based on the record of the underdog, it's very enticing to bet on him, he doesn't loss a single game yet, so that confidence is still flowing in him. I remember watching Valdez fight Scott Quigg in an outdoor arena while it was pouring rain and very cold. Quigg came in very overweight for the fight but Valdez still agreed to face him. During the fight Valdez had his jaw broken early and fought most of the night with blood coming out of his mouth. Even with all this adversity he managed to win the fight. He is one of the toughest warriors I have seen. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Kemarit on February 19, 2021, 01:45:28 AM Here's the face off,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-mNm5oUiyM Two bad ass mofo facing each other 2 days from now, I'm sure boxing fans are very excited. And it seems there is a mutual respect between them. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Cling18 on February 19, 2021, 03:46:44 AM My bet would go for Miguel Berchelt. I've watched his previous fights and I saw how he moves on the right and it amazes me. I think it will also be an opportunity for Oscar Valdez to prove himself but he should give more than his 100% for this fight. It will surely be a great fight.
Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on February 19, 2021, 06:01:02 AM My bet would go for Miguel Berchelt. I've watched his previous fights and I saw how he moves on the right and it amazes me. I think it will also be an opportunity for Oscar Valdez to prove himself but he should give more than his 100% for this fight. It will surely be a great fight. He is the obvious favorite and the champion and a very rough and tough fighter. So I wouldn't be surprised to see him as the favorite. However, Oscar Valdez is also a champion and coming up in weight and has a solid punch, and he has Reynoso as his head trainer that's why gamblers here are putting a bet on him. So it's a compelling fight, and we all know if two Mexicans gets into the ring, expect a war. So don't sleep on Valdez.Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Jating on February 19, 2021, 06:53:13 AM ^^ That's why the way Oscar Valdez and Ryan Garcia is throwing that left hook is very similar because they have the same trainer, and so is Canelo Alvarez.
Oscar Valdez highlights - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfswsx7qMD0 Miguel Berchelt highlights - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5AElug8mRA Miguel Berchelt reminds of the "El Matador" Ricardo Mayorga, the way he throws his punch, , doesn't look very technical but very effective, and the work rate. Oscar Valdez is more technical though obviously, but he needs to brawl with Berchelt and he should be ready for the volume punches coming his way and he should also throw the same level of badness with every punch. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Questat on February 19, 2021, 09:58:59 AM My bet would go for Miguel Berchelt. I've watched his previous fights and I saw how he moves on the right and it amazes me. I think it will also be an opportunity for Oscar Valdez to prove himself but he should give more than his 100% for this fight. It will surely be a great fight. Oscar Valdez already proved everyone that he is a winner, his been undefeated until now, but this is a big fight for him so he should prepare for this as he is an underdog and usually a dog would only win if he fight convincingly so judges will give him the score or knock out his opponent, no bias judges can play their game. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: btc_angela on February 19, 2021, 10:19:02 PM Miguel Berchelt reminds of the "El Matador" Ricardo Mayorga, the way he throws his punch, , doesn't look very technical but very effective, and the work rate. Oscar Valdez is more technical though obviously, but he needs to brawl with Berchelt and he should be ready for the volume punches coming his way and he should also throw the same level of badness with every punch. Right, but he throws a lot of punches in that style and it is very very effective, it's like he suffocate his opponent with the huge amount of punches he throws per round. I don't know how can someone prepare for that though, it will be difficult as you have to either move backward or fight fire with fire with Berchelt. And since he is the stronger guy here, Valdez needs to be very careful as he might caught from time to time with uppercuts and left and right overhand. Let's see what Eddy Reynoso's ace here to upset the champion. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Russlenat on February 19, 2021, 10:50:16 PM Miguel Berchelt reminds of the "El Matador" Ricardo Mayorga, the way he throws his punch, , doesn't look very technical but very effective, and the work rate. Oscar Valdez is more technical though obviously, but he needs to brawl with Berchelt and he should be ready for the volume punches coming his way and he should also throw the same level of badness with every punch. Right, but he throws a lot of punches in that style and it is very very effective, it's like he suffocate his opponent with the huge amount of punches he throws per round. I don't know how can someone prepare for that though, it will be difficult as you have to either move backward or fight fire with fire with Berchelt. And since he is the stronger guy here, Valdez needs to be very careful as he might caught from time to time with uppercuts and left and right overhand. Counter punching is the best strategy to use if the opponent loves to move forward, with one solid counter punch, that could end up the fight and the underdog here will win. Just take for example the fight of Manny vs Marquez (the last fight), Manny is already for a kill but Marquez hit him with a good counter punch that sent him into the canvass and he was not able to get up anymore. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: coin-investor on February 19, 2021, 11:22:29 PM I hope to find a link where I can find the live match of the fight this is going to be explosive, both fighters are always on the go and do not afraid to mix it up, it's an all Mexican fight, and whatever the odds I'll go for Berchelt on my analysis he is tougher and had a slight edge over Valdez besides being a champion.
Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: bisdak40 on February 19, 2021, 11:45:36 PM I hope to find a link where I can find the live match of the fight this is going to be explosive, both fighters are always on the go and do not afraid to mix it up, it's an all Mexican fight, and whatever the odds I'll go for Berchelt on my analysis he is tougher and had a slight edge over Valdez besides being a champion. I once posted links of boxing fights but unfortunately their website is down maybe because of legal issues. Below is some info on how to watch the fight and i do hope that some users will have some knowledge and post the links here. Quote PROGRAMMING UPDATE 🚨 Saturday's #BercheltValdez ESPN main card will also simultaneously be available for streaming on ESPN+. 🥊 UNDERCARD: ESPN+ at 6:30pm ET / 3:30pm PT 🥊 MAIN CARD: ESPN & ESPN+ at 10pm ET / 7pm PT Below is the link of the weigh-in, both boxers look ripped and ready for the brawl. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JleWdKbdts Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: TravelMug on February 20, 2021, 01:17:06 AM There's probably a bunch of people that will stream it in Facebook though, might want to take a look at it although as the fight started, most of them are being taken down, Lol. Hope that @bisdak40 will share the links if it is up and running tomorrow.
Both of them weight on the dot, but Miguel Berchelt looks physically big here and he has more muscle to show. But both look good, interesting to see how big these two when rehydrated as both are heavy puncher and their weight in fight night will be critical. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on February 20, 2021, 07:26:58 AM I hope to find a link where I can find the live match of the fight this is going to be explosive, both fighters are always on the go and do not afraid to mix it up, it's an all Mexican fight, and whatever the odds I'll go for Berchelt on my analysis he is tougher and had a slight edge over Valdez besides being a champion. Yes, he has been in a lot of wars trying to defend that belt, and as someone says, a volume puncher which is harder to fight unless you have the tools to counter part, which Valdez possesses, - left hook. Odds have been posted here, but just to make sure as there could be changes fight night. Yes, this is going to be explosive as no one wants to back up because these two are known to be warrior inside the ring.Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Jating on February 20, 2021, 07:31:59 AM Miguel Berchelt reminds of the "El Matador" Ricardo Mayorga, the way he throws his punch, , doesn't look very technical but very effective, and the work rate. Oscar Valdez is more technical though obviously, but he needs to brawl with Berchelt and he should be ready for the volume punches coming his way and he should also throw the same level of badness with every punch. Right, but he throws a lot of punches in that style and it is very very effective, it's like he suffocate his opponent with the huge amount of punches he throws per round. I don't know how can someone prepare for that though, it will be difficult as you have to either move backward or fight fire with fire with Berchelt. And since he is the stronger guy here, Valdez needs to be very careful as he might caught from time to time with uppercuts and left and right overhand. Counter punching is the best strategy to use if the opponent loves to move forward, with one solid counter punch, that could end up the fight and the underdog here will win. Just take for example the fight of Manny vs Marquez (the last fight), Manny is already for a kill but Marquez hit him with a good counter punch that sent him into the canvass and he was not able to get up anymore. I agree a good counter puncher will negate an offensive puncher just like Miguel Berchelt, that's why this is really going to be technical for Valdez if he really wanted to him. We can't complain with his left hook at it also devastated a lot of fighters he face, so that will be his best weapon against a come forward Miguel Berchelt. Notice though that he is square in his two feet when he throws successive power punch. Maybe Valdez and his team saw this one, all Valdez will do is move and find the right angle to throw that counter right or left hook. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: bisdak40 on February 20, 2021, 08:56:24 PM Notice though that he is square in his two feet when he throws successive power punch. Maybe Valdez and his team saw this one, all Valdez will do is move and find the right angle to throw that counter right or left hook. Valdez is more agile than Berchelt and with Reynoso in his corner i think they already studied the weakness of Miguel and go for it if there is an opportunity. Executing a game plan is easier said than done and knowing that these two warriors will leave their all in the ring, men in their corner will have a lot of shouting to do ;D. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Viscore on February 20, 2021, 09:51:02 PM Notice though that he is square in his two feet when he throws successive power punch. Maybe Valdez and his team saw this one, all Valdez will do is move and find the right angle to throw that counter right or left hook. Valdez is more agile than Berchelt and with Reynoso in his corner i think they already studied the weakness of Miguel and go for it if there is an opportunity. Executing a game plan is easier said than done and knowing that these two warriors will leave their all in the ring, men in their corner will have a lot of shouting to do ;D. That's their job, but these boxers job is to entertain the crowd the best they can, it would be nice if we will see a real fight where one really has the intention to knock out the other, Mexicans are known for that so I guess our expectation in this game is high, but in terms of the winner, we might have different picks. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: hulla on February 20, 2021, 11:21:06 PM Notice though that he is square in his two feet when he throws successive power punch. Maybe Valdez and his team saw this one, all Valdez will do is move and find the right angle to throw that counter right or left hook. Valdez is more agile than Berchelt and with Reynoso in his corner i think they already studied the weakness of Miguel and go for it if there is an opportunity. Executing a game plan is easier said than done and knowing that these two warriors will leave their all in the ring, men in their corner will have a lot of shouting to do ;D. Having said that, I believe Berchelt we will win this fight. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Kemarit on February 21, 2021, 01:49:51 AM Notice though that he is square in his two feet when he throws successive power punch. Maybe Valdez and his team saw this one, all Valdez will do is move and find the right angle to throw that counter right or left hook. Valdez is more agile than Berchelt and with Reynoso in his corner i think they already studied the weakness of Miguel and go for it if there is an opportunity. Executing a game plan is easier said than done and knowing that these two warriors will leave their all in the ring, men in their corner will have a lot of shouting to do ;D. Any link out there mate? :) I can't find any right now, I know there might be one out there because this is going to be a classic Mexican war. Yeah, sure they have put a good plan in paper but it will change a lot once the bell ring and there should be plan B by Valdez. (not engage Berchelt as it will be very risky). Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: bisdak40 on February 21, 2021, 04:53:50 AM Any link out there mate? :) I can't find any right now, I know there might be one out there because this is going to be a classic Mexican war. Yeah, sure they have put a good plan in paper but it will change a lot once the bell ring and there should be plan B by Valdez. (not engage Berchelt as it will be very risky). Sorry bro, got no link for that fight, i just searched on FB on who did a live stream. Fight over and a KO win by Oscar Valdez. Miguel Berchelt too slow for Oscar Valdez, he just rely on power but that being offset by speed on the side of Valdez. @Baofeng, congrats bro and to all who believe on Valdez that he can pull out this one. Will there be a rematch? Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: robelneo on February 21, 2021, 05:37:10 AM Fight over and a KO win by Oscar Valdez. Miguel Berchelt too slow for Oscar Valdez, he just rely on power but that being offset by speed on the side of Valdez. @Baofeng, congrats bro and to all who believe on Valdez that he can pull out this one. Will there be a rematch? That was a brutal knock out Berchelt is just too slow to see it Valdez is waiting patiently to land that knocks out punch, if there is a rematch stipulation then they are likely to go for a rematch but with that kind of knock out Berchelt should take some time I'm surprised on Berchelt he is moving forward without defense that punches come in when he is moving forward, it's a lunge punch and well-timed. watch the whole fight here https://youtu.be/QYUVelu8hE0 Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: FinneysTrueVision on February 21, 2021, 05:44:20 AM Valdez fought the perfect fight and sealed it with an exclamation point. That was a devastating knockout. This performance should probably be enough to put Valdez into the top 10 pound for pound list. Berchelt might've looked sluggish due to his excessive weight cut. It was not the brawl we expected due to Valdez's superior technique but it was still an enjoyable fight and an early frontrunner for KO of the year.
Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: coin-investor on February 21, 2021, 06:14:54 AM Valdez fought the perfect fight and sealed it with an exclamation point. That was a devastating knockout. This performance should probably be enough to put Valdez into the top 10 pound for pound list. Berchelt might've looked sluggish due to his excessive weight cut. It was not the brawl we expected due to Valdez's superior technique but it was still an enjoyable fight and an early frontrunner for KO of the year. I will nominate this as a knock out of the year although it's early, this deserves a runaway winner for a knock out of the month, you really cannot disregard the power of a knockout puncher, he can finish the fight with one punch and that's what happens to Miguel Berchelt, I rule out a rematch here Valdez performance is too much for Miguel Berchelt. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Jating on February 21, 2021, 06:40:26 AM As I have said, it will be a technical fight for Valdez and that left hook? too precise and I will say they have perfected it, with Canelo, Garcia and now Valdez have it in their arsenal now.
Brawler vs a technical fighter? we already see the outcome in the past and just like today, Valdez proof that superiority will negate any offensive volume puncher. I can't remember if I read that there will be a rematch clause or not. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on February 21, 2021, 06:44:24 AM Valdez fought the perfect fight and sealed it with an exclamation point. That was a devastating knockout. This performance should probably be enough to put Valdez into the top 10 pound for pound list. Berchelt might've looked sluggish due to his excessive weight cut. It was not the brawl we expected due to Valdez's superior technique but it was still an enjoyable fight and an early frontrunner for KO of the year. Yes, he fought perfectly and that left hook ended the fight for Berchelt. It could be the effect of covid for Miguel (not making excuses for him), but he seems to be running out of gas in the latter round and not moving as he used to be. Or perhaps the weight cut itself. It was not a brawl because Valdez knows that he is not going to win with that kind of fight. KO of the year for now.Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: bisdak40 on February 21, 2021, 09:43:47 AM Valdez fought the perfect fight and sealed it with an exclamation point. That was a devastating knockout. This performance should probably be enough to put Valdez into the top 10 pound for pound list. Berchelt might've looked sluggish due to his excessive weight cut. It was not the brawl we expected due to Valdez's superior technique but it was still an enjoyable fight and an early frontrunner for KO of the year. Miguel Berchelt make Oscar Valdez looked good on that fight and with that brutal knockout he scored he will be on the P4P top 10 list. Miguel being slow might be the factor on why Reynoso insisted this fight for Oscar, he could not catch the latter and almost absorbed all the counter punches that Valdez threw. They should have stopped the fight a little earlier, Miguel has been hit with too much power punches prior to that exclamatory punch. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Ziskinberg on February 21, 2021, 09:54:08 AM Valdez fought the perfect fight and sealed it with an exclamation point. That was a devastating knockout. This performance should probably be enough to put Valdez into the top 10 pound for pound list. Berchelt might've looked sluggish due to his excessive weight cut. It was not the brawl we expected due to Valdez's superior technique but it was still an enjoyable fight and an early frontrunner for KO of the year. Miguel Berchelt make Oscar Valdez looked good on that fight and with that brutal knockout he scored he will be on the P4P top 10 list. Miguel being slow might be the factor on why Reynoso insisted this fight for Oscar, he could not catch the latter and almost absorbed all the counter punches that Valdez threw. They should have stopped the fight a little earlier, Miguel has been hit with too much power punches prior to that exclamatory punch. Nice prediction from most of us here, Oscar Valdez the underdog won the fight, I wonder what the odds was on Oscar Valdez winning by KO in 10-12 rounds. Anyway, that was a big win Oscar Valdez , congrats to him and to all who back him to win. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Saisher on February 21, 2021, 10:13:07 AM They should have stopped the fight a little earlier, Miguel has been hit with too much power punches prior to that exclamatory punch. Miguel Berchelt is to passive he just move forward and try to land as many punches as he can while Valdez is waiting for the right time to land that big punch, and so it came at the right time and with a good timing he hit Miguel Berchelt with a very hard left hook it was a well preferred left hook, it's hard to get up from that punch. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Yaunfitda on February 21, 2021, 10:16:45 AM They should have stopped the fight a little earlier, Miguel has been hit with too much power punches prior to that exclamatory punch. Miguel Berchelt is to passive he just move forward and try to land as many punches as he can while Valdez is waiting for the right time to land that big punch, and so it came at the right time and with a good timing he hit Miguel Berchelt with a very hard left hook it was a well preferred left hook, it's hard to get up from that punch. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: mu_enrico on February 21, 2021, 03:08:17 PM This fight has a deep history. It goes beyond their career as a pro boxer to an amateur one. You guys should watch this documentary (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPNLEZCyUeo). I think I'm rooting for Valdez as he trains with Canelo's trainer and was superior in amateur boxing. The big downside is Valdez's jaw since he broke his jaw vs Scott Quigg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovbm5vJqJco). I should've bet all in... damn ;DFor those who haven't understand the context, the documentary may give you a clearer explanation of why Valdes won :P This dude had great fights despite having an average trainer, and Canelo's trainer brings something new to the table. Congrats underdog bettors! Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: freedomgo on February 21, 2021, 03:28:55 PM This fight has a deep history. It goes beyond their career as a pro boxer to an amateur one. You guys should watch this documentary (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPNLEZCyUeo). I think I'm rooting for Valdez as he trains with Canelo's trainer and was superior in amateur boxing. The big downside is Valdez's jaw since he broke his jaw vs Scott Quigg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovbm5vJqJco). I should've bet all in... damn ;DFor those who haven't understand the context, the documentary may give you a clearer explanation of why Valdes won :P This dude had great fights despite having an average trainer, and Canelo's trainer brings something new to the table. Congrats underdog bettors! Congrats to you man, your prediction is correct, maybe the bookies have not seen it coming and Oscar Valdez remains undefeated under a good trainer. Good tuck to his future, I hope he will still continue to be an underdog so we can keep betting on him and get that good return of our stake. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: btc_angela on February 21, 2021, 03:33:23 PM He was the bigger guy that night, but he didn't know how to take advantage of it. Style makes a fight and Valdez came well prepared for this fight he is in a good trainer Reynoso, also the same trainer of Ryan Garcia and Canelo both fighters are heavy punchers and with good timing, Valdez developed that good timing on this fight, he is definitely going to be a great champion. Yes, and Valdez play perfectly being the small guy here. His jab do the job in the first 3 rounds. And since Miguel Berchelt is very slow, Valdez took advantage of it. Valdez is too emotional post fight though because we all know that he is also from Mexico but they support Miguel Berchelt here. So he definitely proved everyone back in the country wrong with a statement win against Miguel Berchelt. Next will be Shakur Stevenson. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Russlenat on February 21, 2021, 03:46:15 PM Counter punching is the best strategy to use if the opponent loves to move forward, with one solid counter punch, that could end up the fight and the underdog here will win. I guess I was right here, I watch the highlights and this is exactly what happen.. Miguel Berchelt trying to move forward but he already does not have the foot and with that solid counter punch of Oscar Valdez, the fight has ended. Congrats to us underdog bettors, I have a little win on this fight too.Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Baofeng on February 21, 2021, 09:36:17 PM Any link out there mate? :) I can't find any right now, I know there might be one out there because this is going to be a classic Mexican war. Yeah, sure they have put a good plan in paper but it will change a lot once the bell ring and there should be plan B by Valdez. (not engage Berchelt as it will be very risky). Sorry bro, got no link for that fight, i just searched on FB on who did a live stream. Fight over and a KO win by Oscar Valdez. Miguel Berchelt too slow for Oscar Valdez, he just rely on power but that being offset by speed on the side of Valdez. @Baofeng, congrats bro and to all who believe on Valdez that he can pull out this one. Will there be a rematch? Thanks bro, Oscar Valdez is really a live dog and has the numbers of Berchelt here. I'm sure many are happy to see Valdez winning and I do hope that they have bet on the underdog here. This is also an emotional win for him, congrats to Valdez and to everyone. Now Stevenson will be the next target for Valdez. No need for an immediate rematch, the fight is not even close. Berchelt was really outsmart and I would say that Valdez put a clinic here. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Viscore on February 21, 2021, 10:27:41 PM Berchelt was really outsmart and I would say that Valdez put a clinic here. This is exactly what happened, looks like betting on odds alone does not work here, knowing what the boxer is capable of is the key because it's the underdog that looks like the favorites in the ring, the win is too easy for Oscar Valdez because he is hitting Berchelt with his easy shots until he KO him in the later round. Now everyone knows Oscar Valdez, I think I'm excited to see his next match. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Kemarit on February 22, 2021, 01:33:51 AM Berchelt was really outsmart and I would say that Valdez put a clinic here. This is exactly what happened, looks like betting on odds alone does not work here, knowing what the boxer is capable of is the key because it's the underdog that looks like the favorites in the ring, the win is too easy for Oscar Valdez because he is hitting Berchelt with his easy shots until he KO him in the later round. Now everyone knows Oscar Valdez, I think I'm excited to see his next match. Miguel Berchelt wasn't able to adjust on this match, Valdez put a masterful clinic here, his jab was far superior, potshotting in first 2 rounds alone and there was blood coming from nose and this makes a fighter breath hard as the fight goes on. That perfect left hook though, Berchelt fall like a sake of rice. But the good thing is that Miguel is fine after he was rush to the hospital. But we don't know how is he going to be after this fight because Valdez really took out his soul in this fight. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: yazher on February 22, 2021, 02:41:38 AM Berchelt was really outsmart and I would say that Valdez put a clinic here. This is exactly what happened, looks like betting on odds alone does not work here, knowing what the boxer is capable of is the key because it's the underdog that looks like the favorites in the ring, the win is too easy for Oscar Valdez because he is hitting Berchelt with his easy shots until he KO him in the later round. Now everyone knows Oscar Valdez, I think I'm excited to see his next match. His method of knockout his opponent just outsmart the opponent that leaves him no clue on what's going on in the ring and even though the result was not done in the early rounds, he finishes his opponent in the later rounds which are satisfying to watch. Oscar Valdez won not only the belt but also proves that he is the only knockout artist between them. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: robelneo on February 22, 2021, 07:41:39 AM His method of knockout his opponent just outsmart the opponent that leaves him no clue on what's going on in the ring and even though the result was not done in the early rounds, he finishes his opponent in the later rounds which are satisfying to watch. Oscar Valdez won not only the belt but also proves that he is the only knockout artist between them. Judging from the way he punches, he is looking for a big knock out punch the way he moves, positions himself, and how he looks on the opening, he really is going for a knockout and he delivers it right on time, and Berchelt not expecting him, all his future opponents will be looking at this fight and they will be very careful on not being attentive. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Yaunfitda on February 22, 2021, 08:04:20 AM Berchelt was really outsmart and I would say that Valdez put a clinic here. This is exactly what happened, looks like betting on odds alone does not work here, knowing what the boxer is capable of is the key because it's the underdog that looks like the favorites in the ring, the win is too easy for Oscar Valdez because he is hitting Berchelt with his easy shots until he KO him in the later round. Now everyone knows Oscar Valdez, I think I'm excited to see his next match. His method of knockout his opponent just outsmart the opponent that leaves him no clue on what's going on in the ring and even though the result was not done in the early rounds, he finishes his opponent in the later rounds which are satisfying to watch. Oscar Valdez won not only the belt but also proves that he is the only knockout artist between them. And then his power in that left hand, take Berchelt out and I agree that this is a clinic show for Valdez as everyone didn't expect that he will destroy Berchelt in that fashion. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: Ziskinberg on February 22, 2021, 09:26:02 AM Berchelt was really outsmart and I would say that Valdez put a clinic here. This is exactly what happened, looks like betting on odds alone does not work here, knowing what the boxer is capable of is the key because it's the underdog that looks like the favorites in the ring, the win is too easy for Oscar Valdez because he is hitting Berchelt with his easy shots until he KO him in the later round. Now everyone knows Oscar Valdez, I think I'm excited to see his next match. His method of knockout his opponent just outsmart the opponent that leaves him no clue on what's going on in the ring and even though the result was not done in the early rounds, he finishes his opponent in the later rounds which are satisfying to watch. Oscar Valdez won not only the belt but also proves that he is the only knockout artist between them. And then his power in that left hand, take Berchelt out and I agree that this is a clinic show for Valdez as everyone didn't expect that he will destroy Berchelt in that fashion. Sometimes a fighter that always go forward does not respect the power of his opponent, so I think Berchelt was suprised here by the power of Valdez but he hasn't adjust by changing his style, and I'm sure this is a learning experience for Berchelt to be smarter by having the ability to adjust on what the opponent is showing, than just relying on his power to KO his opponent. Title: Re: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title Post by: bisdak40 on February 22, 2021, 12:10:46 PM Now Stevenson will be the next target for Valdez. No need for an immediate rematch, the fight is not even close. Berchelt was really outsmart and I would say that Valdez put a clinic here. Stevenson would be a tough test for Oscar Valdez as the former can match Valdez speed and power. Stevenson vs Valdez is a money fight and with Bob Arum's recent statement, he is willing to stage this one and that would be a blockbuster. Berchelt vs Valdez reminds me of Pacquiao vs Margarito where the more agile boxer has the advantage and that is being set-up to make Valdez look good and in fairness to him, he performed what is expected of him. Time to lock the thread now and as usual, thanks to all who participated in this lively discussion, until next. |