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Author Topic: [Boxing] Miguel Berchelt vs Oscar Valdez WBC Super-Featherweight Title  (Read 719 times)
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February 20, 2021, 07:31:59 AM
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Miguel Berchelt reminds of the "El Matador" Ricardo Mayorga, the way he throws his punch, , doesn't look very technical but very effective, and the work rate. Oscar Valdez is more technical though obviously, but he needs to brawl with Berchelt and he should be ready for the volume punches coming his way and he should also throw the same level of badness with every punch.

Right, but he throws a lot of punches in that style and it is very very effective, it's like he suffocate his opponent with the huge amount of punches he throws per round. I don't know how can someone prepare for that though, it will be difficult as you have to either move backward or fight fire with fire with Berchelt.

And since he is the stronger guy here, Valdez needs to be very careful as he might caught from time to time with uppercuts and left and right overhand.

Counter punching is the best strategy to use if the opponent loves to move forward, with one solid counter punch, that could end up the fight and the underdog here will win. Just take for example the fight of Manny vs Marquez (the last fight), Manny is already for a kill but Marquez hit him with a good counter punch that sent him into the canvass and he was not able to get up anymore.

I agree a good counter puncher will negate an offensive puncher just like Miguel Berchelt, that's why this is really going to be technical for Valdez if he really wanted to him. We can't complain with his left hook at it also devastated a lot of fighters he face, so that will be his best weapon against a come forward Miguel Berchelt.

Notice though that he is square in his two feet when he throws successive power punch. Maybe Valdez and his team saw this one, all Valdez will do is move and find the right angle to throw that counter right or left hook.

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February 20, 2021, 08:56:24 PM
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Notice though that he is square in his two feet when he throws successive power punch. Maybe Valdez and his team saw this one, all Valdez will do is move and find the right angle to throw that counter right or left hook.

Valdez is more agile than Berchelt and with Reynoso in his corner i think they already studied the weakness of Miguel and go for it if there is an opportunity.

Executing a game plan is easier said than done and knowing that these two warriors will leave their all in the ring, men in their corner will have a lot of shouting to do Grin.


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February 20, 2021, 09:51:02 PM
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Notice though that he is square in his two feet when he throws successive power punch. Maybe Valdez and his team saw this one, all Valdez will do is move and find the right angle to throw that counter right or left hook.

Valdez is more agile than Berchelt and with Reynoso in his corner i think they already studied the weakness of Miguel and go for it if there is an opportunity.

Executing a game plan is easier said than done and knowing that these two warriors will leave their all in the ring, men in their corner will have a lot of shouting to do Grin.



That's their job, but these boxers job is to entertain the crowd the best they can, it would be nice if we will see a real fight where one really has the intention to knock out the other, Mexicans are known for that so I guess our expectation in this game is high, but in terms of the winner, we might have different picks.

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February 20, 2021, 11:21:06 PM
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Notice though that he is square in his two feet when he throws successive power punch. Maybe Valdez and his team saw this one, all Valdez will do is move and find the right angle to throw that counter right or left hook.

Valdez is more agile than Berchelt and with Reynoso in his corner i think they already studied the weakness of Miguel and go for it if there is an opportunity.

Executing a game plan is easier said than done and knowing that these two warriors will leave their all in the ring, men in their corner will have a lot of shouting to do Grin.


I agree Valdez has an able method to move quickly and easily than Berchelt but that's not enough to judge who the winner of the fight will be, Reynoso in the corner or not Berchelt has already studied the weakness of Valdez despite his dazzling move.
Having said that, I believe Berchelt we will win this fight.

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February 21, 2021, 01:49:51 AM
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Notice though that he is square in his two feet when he throws successive power punch. Maybe Valdez and his team saw this one, all Valdez will do is move and find the right angle to throw that counter right or left hook.

Valdez is more agile than Berchelt and with Reynoso in his corner i think they already studied the weakness of Miguel and go for it if there is an opportunity.

Executing a game plan is easier said than done and knowing that these two warriors will leave their all in the ring, men in their corner will have a lot of shouting to do Grin.


Any link out there mate?  Smiley

I can't find any right now, I know there might be one out there because this is going to be a classic Mexican war.

Yeah, sure they have put a good plan in paper but it will change a lot once the bell ring and there should be plan B by Valdez. (not engage Berchelt as it will be very risky).

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February 21, 2021, 04:53:50 AM
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Any link out there mate?  Smiley

I can't find any right now, I know there might be one out there because this is going to be a classic Mexican war.

Yeah, sure they have put a good plan in paper but it will change a lot once the bell ring and there should be plan B by Valdez. (not engage Berchelt as it will be very risky).

Sorry bro, got no link for that fight, i just searched on FB on who did a live stream.



Fight over and a KO win by Oscar Valdez.

Miguel Berchelt too slow for Oscar Valdez, he just rely on power but that being offset by speed on the side of Valdez.

@Baofeng, congrats bro and to all who believe on Valdez that he can pull out this one.

Will there be a rematch?

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February 21, 2021, 05:37:10 AM
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Fight over and a KO win by Oscar Valdez.

Miguel Berchelt too slow for Oscar Valdez, he just rely on power but that being offset by speed on the side of Valdez.

@Baofeng, congrats bro and to all who believe on Valdez that he can pull out this one.

Will there be a rematch?


That was a brutal knock out Berchelt is just too slow to see it Valdez is waiting patiently to land that knocks out punch, if there is a rematch stipulation then they are likely to go for a rematch but with that kind of knock out Berchelt should take some time I'm surprised on Berchelt he is moving forward without defense that punches come in when he is moving forward, it's a lunge punch and well-timed.

watch the whole fight here
https://youtu.be/QYUVelu8hE0

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February 21, 2021, 05:44:20 AM
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Valdez fought the perfect fight and sealed it with an exclamation point. That was a devastating knockout. This performance should probably be enough to put Valdez into the top 10 pound for pound list. Berchelt might've looked sluggish due to his excessive weight cut. It was not the brawl we expected due to Valdez's superior technique but it was still an enjoyable fight and an early frontrunner for KO of the year.

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February 21, 2021, 06:14:54 AM
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Valdez fought the perfect fight and sealed it with an exclamation point. That was a devastating knockout. This performance should probably be enough to put Valdez into the top 10 pound for pound list. Berchelt might've looked sluggish due to his excessive weight cut. It was not the brawl we expected due to Valdez's superior technique but it was still an enjoyable fight and an early frontrunner for KO of the year.

I will nominate this as a knock out of the year although it's early, this deserves a runaway winner for a knock out of the month, you really cannot disregard the power of a knockout puncher, he can finish the fight with one punch and that's what happens to Miguel Berchelt, I rule out a rematch here Valdez performance is too much for Miguel Berchelt.

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February 21, 2021, 06:40:26 AM
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As I have said, it will be a technical fight for Valdez and that left hook? too precise and I will say they have perfected it, with Canelo, Garcia and now Valdez have it in their arsenal now.

Brawler vs a technical fighter? we already see the outcome in the past and just like today, Valdez proof that superiority will negate any offensive volume puncher.

I can't remember if I read that there will be a rematch clause or not.

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February 21, 2021, 06:44:24 AM
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Valdez fought the perfect fight and sealed it with an exclamation point. That was a devastating knockout. This performance should probably be enough to put Valdez into the top 10 pound for pound list. Berchelt might've looked sluggish due to his excessive weight cut. It was not the brawl we expected due to Valdez's superior technique but it was still an enjoyable fight and an early frontrunner for KO of the year.
Yes, he fought perfectly and that left hook ended the fight for Berchelt. It could be the effect of covid for Miguel (not making excuses for him), but he seems to be running out of gas in the latter round and not moving as he used to be. Or perhaps the weight cut itself. It was not a brawl because Valdez knows that he is not going to win with that kind of fight. KO of the year for now.
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February 21, 2021, 09:43:47 AM
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Valdez fought the perfect fight and sealed it with an exclamation point. That was a devastating knockout. This performance should probably be enough to put Valdez into the top 10 pound for pound list. Berchelt might've looked sluggish due to his excessive weight cut. It was not the brawl we expected due to Valdez's superior technique but it was still an enjoyable fight and an early frontrunner for KO of the year.

Miguel Berchelt make Oscar Valdez looked good on that fight and with that brutal knockout he scored he will be on the P4P top 10 list.

Miguel being slow might be the factor on why Reynoso insisted this fight for Oscar, he could not catch the latter and almost absorbed all the counter punches that Valdez threw.

They should have stopped the fight a little earlier, Miguel has been hit with too much power punches prior to that exclamatory punch.

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February 21, 2021, 09:54:08 AM
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Valdez fought the perfect fight and sealed it with an exclamation point. That was a devastating knockout. This performance should probably be enough to put Valdez into the top 10 pound for pound list. Berchelt might've looked sluggish due to his excessive weight cut. It was not the brawl we expected due to Valdez's superior technique but it was still an enjoyable fight and an early frontrunner for KO of the year.

Miguel Berchelt make Oscar Valdez looked good on that fight and with that brutal knockout he scored he will be on the P4P top 10 list.

Miguel being slow might be the factor on why Reynoso insisted this fight for Oscar, he could not catch the latter and almost absorbed all the counter punches that Valdez threw.

They should have stopped the fight a little earlier, Miguel has been hit with too much power punches prior to that exclamatory punch.

Nice prediction from most of us here,  Oscar Valdez the underdog won the fight, I wonder what the odds was on  Oscar Valdez  winning by KO in 10-12 rounds. Anyway, that was a big win  Oscar Valdez , congrats to him and to all who back him to win.

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February 21, 2021, 10:13:07 AM
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They should have stopped the fight a little earlier, Miguel has been hit with too much power punches prior to that exclamatory punch.

Miguel Berchelt is to passive he just move forward and try to land as many punches as he can while Valdez is waiting for the right time to land that big punch, and so it came at the right time and with a good timing he hit Miguel Berchelt with a very hard left hook it was a well preferred left hook, it's hard to get up from that punch.
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February 21, 2021, 10:16:45 AM
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They should have stopped the fight a little earlier, Miguel has been hit with too much power punches prior to that exclamatory punch.

Miguel Berchelt is to passive he just move forward and try to land as many punches as he can while Valdez is waiting for the right time to land that big punch, and so it came at the right time and with a good timing he hit Miguel Berchelt with a very hard left hook it was a well preferred left hook, it's hard to get up from that punch.
Miguel Berchelt is a come forward fighter, and Oscar Valdez has the perfect punch for him, his left hook. Miguel Berchelt was really outclassed from the very first round. Valdez didn't engage him in a brawl and always brings the fight in the middle of the ring. Miguel Berchelt is a great champion no doubt, but it was a off night for him, no power in his punch. He was the bigger guy that night, but he didn't know how to take advantage of it.

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February 21, 2021, 03:08:17 PM
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This fight has a deep history. It goes beyond their career as a pro boxer to an amateur one. You guys should watch this documentary. I think I'm rooting for Valdez as he trains with Canelo's trainer and was superior in amateur boxing. The big downside is Valdez's jaw since he broke his jaw vs Scott Quigg.
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For those who haven't understand the context, the documentary may give you a clearer explanation of why Valdes won Tongue
This dude had great fights despite having an average trainer, and Canelo's trainer brings something new to the table.
Congrats underdog bettors!

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February 21, 2021, 03:28:55 PM
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This fight has a deep history. It goes beyond their career as a pro boxer to an amateur one. You guys should watch this documentary. I think I'm rooting for Valdez as he trains with Canelo's trainer and was superior in amateur boxing. The big downside is Valdez's jaw since he broke his jaw vs Scott Quigg.
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For those who haven't understand the context, the documentary may give you a clearer explanation of why Valdes won Tongue
This dude had great fights despite having an average trainer, and Canelo's trainer brings something new to the table.
Congrats underdog bettors!

Congrats to you man, your prediction is correct, maybe the bookies have not seen it coming and Oscar Valdez remains undefeated under a good trainer. Good tuck to his future, I hope he will still continue to be an underdog so we can keep betting on him and get that good return of our stake.

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February 21, 2021, 03:33:23 PM
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He was the bigger guy that night, but he didn't know how to take advantage of it.

Style makes a fight and Valdez came well prepared for this fight he is in a good trainer Reynoso, also the same trainer of Ryan Garcia and Canelo both fighters are heavy punchers and with good timing, Valdez developed that good timing on this fight, he is definitely going to be a great champion.

Yes, and Valdez play perfectly being the small guy here. His jab do the job in the first 3 rounds. And since Miguel Berchelt is very slow, Valdez took advantage of it. Valdez is too emotional post fight though because we all know that he is also from Mexico but they support Miguel Berchelt here. So he definitely proved everyone back in the country wrong with a statement win against Miguel Berchelt. Next will be Shakur Stevenson.

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February 21, 2021, 03:46:15 PM
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Counter punching is the best strategy to use if the opponent loves to move forward, with one solid counter punch, that could end up the fight and the underdog here will win.
I guess I was right here, I watch the highlights and this is exactly what happen.. Miguel Berchelt trying to move forward but he already does not have the foot and with that solid counter punch of Oscar Valdez, the fight has ended. Congrats to us underdog bettors, I have a little win on this fight too.

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February 21, 2021, 09:36:17 PM
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Any link out there mate?  Smiley

I can't find any right now, I know there might be one out there because this is going to be a classic Mexican war.

Yeah, sure they have put a good plan in paper but it will change a lot once the bell ring and there should be plan B by Valdez. (not engage Berchelt as it will be very risky).

Sorry bro, got no link for that fight, i just searched on FB on who did a live stream.



Fight over and a KO win by Oscar Valdez.

Miguel Berchelt too slow for Oscar Valdez, he just rely on power but that being offset by speed on the side of Valdez.

@Baofeng, congrats bro and to all who believe on Valdez that he can pull out this one.

Will there be a rematch?

Thanks bro, Oscar Valdez is really a live dog and has the numbers of Berchelt here.  I'm sure many are happy to see Valdez winning and I do hope that they have bet on the underdog here. This is also an emotional win for him, congrats to Valdez and to everyone.

Now Stevenson will be the next target for Valdez. No need for an immediate rematch, the fight is not even close. Berchelt was really outsmart and I would say that Valdez put a clinic here.

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