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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5316596.new#new

This is not a rep thread mods, this is discussing setting using the forum software to set a precedent for red tags that have far reaching implications for the entire forum.  

I know that we've established that providing legitmate scam warnings on DT members by providing independently verifiable evidence of scamming is worthy or a red tag on the whistleblower. We have established this.

But this new precedent, although less disgusting and dangerous, is much more far reaching and contagious. You catch being a scammer form someone perhaps even with 2000 miles social distancing here says some DT members.

Is it suitable to red tag someone for merely replying to another member that has been previously tagged ?

I mean must red tagged members not be spoken too or else you get a tag yes or fucking no?

And I know the mods are all wussy cowards who dare not speak up but

Who moved this thread to rep?? Come and let me educate you.

You have turds in meta creating threads about their individual merit scores ? Lol

This thread has far reaching implications for the entire forum.

Explain how it is a rep thread??

Hurry up mongrels or just keep hiding.

I will just repost it here again until you answer why you are moving meta threads to rep.
If they are rep explain how?

I am asking is this something all members need to watch out for now?

Ban the truth, admit you impose double standards. Or keep hiding.

1. How is it a rep thread?
2. Yes you can be tagged for replying to any previously tagged member about any subject even if what you are saying is independently verifiable as the truth??

Is the truth banned ? Yes or no?

Stop moving meta threads to rep and leaving rep threads in meta?

The rep threads are for specific members and their actions discussion relating only to them.

Meta is clearly for discussing the use of the forums software and the far reaching effects it has on its members

Yes or no?

Should the forums software be used to brand people as scammers for simply conveying the truth to people that been given a red tag previously?

Direwolf doesnt understand the question so please assist them.
Be kind to them please. Be patient.

What is the point of having mods that are too dumb to differentiate between meta and rep?

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FML I ended up reporting my own post LOL... no more cookies for me, fingers getting too fat.

I didn't move it but I'd say it belongs in reputation.

And I know the once most trusted ponzi scammer is a wussy coward who dares not speak up. 

Your turn.

Not even gonna bother the rest, but the reason why it is a reputation-based thread is because it has nothing to do about the forum itself, but rather on DT members.

And you're ranting and blabbering, which I think you should stop. You're being a dick in your own arse. do something better in life honestly.

Of course hilarious would move it, just like she would mark bad a report of suchmoon stalking and spamming every thread I make with conclusively debunked and off topic claims and  to stop debating with my trolling posts. Then running away from any debates I attempt  to draw her into. I mean clearly that proven scammer supporter and protector is scared of any real examination into her behavior. (Suchmoon , although hilarious knowingly kept proven scammers on his DT includes list and supported them against members that presented independently verifiable evidence of their scamming so not much better really )

If hilarious says they would do something where I am concerned or not doing something you can be sure the opposite of what they say is correct fair and optimal. So thanks for chiming in to verify I was correct to post it here in meta.

Look pugwash. These are the same non specific terms all imbeciles use to avoid debating specific points.
What blabbering do you want to specifically address?
Go to them now debunk them or field an opposing argument that you're capable of and I'll come and eviscerate it in 30 seconds.

I mean we all know you will not. Because I will pull you apart in public with great pleasure like I do all turds that seek to deny independently variable truths.

Now back on topic.


It's very simple.

1. It is regarding the use of the forums control systems and potential safeguards being implemented
2. It is not about a single person on DT is it?  I mean some topics can be applied to single events but how many " is it okay, is it acceptable,  would it improve the forum, threads are there in meta? Tons because that's where you discuss how to improve the forum.
3. It is about an acceptable precedent for the use of the forums software in general.
4. This has far reaching implications for freedom of speech and whom you can even respond to.

5. I notice there has been a change since I brought this up. Lol slimy weasel, his post history


Yes of course a specific event can spark a debate that is a meta topic. Like a scammer posting an obvious scam attempt on a self moderated thread on the sales board  and blocking others reporting it as such by deleting others warnings. Then someone coming tknmeta and starting a debate about asking should it be acceptable and possible to have self moderated sales threads?

Then some mod going well make a rep thread about the scammer?
No, because j want to start a debate and suggest changes or create precedents than have great benefits for the entire forum and all of its members.

Do you get it yet.

Sure I could make a rep thread if I only wanted do specifically address that specific member and that specific event in isolation. I dont.

No more mr nice guy. Everytime I see clear abuse of the trust system and the dilution of legitmate and valuable warnings.
I'm going to make a lot of debates and specific discussion on them as to how they effect the entire forum and what improvements and safeguards can be put in place to ensure there is an improved standard of free speech and equal and fair opportunity. This will help the forum expand and grow. Nobody wants to join unless is a reasonably fair place to contribute and you're allowed to speak to who you wish.

Presenting on topic independently verifiable valuable truths must not be punishable.
If it is going to be tolerated and supported I'm going to make sure there is no excuses like oh well I never knew that kind of thing was taking place.

So pugwash I hope at this point you start to get the idea that your reply made about as much difference to this community as your entire membership here. Zero. Let that sink in. Nothing here of any real consequence would be any different should you have never joined.

Now, you may thank me for donating my precious time in providing you a both valuable and accurate appraisal of your worth. With careful reflection and a lot more help from myself, then perhaps you could make a valid contribution albeit a very small one.

What has : post your highest merit score or hey I'm a hero member now, got to do with meta? Unless you say hey I'm a hero member now and I found I had to eat a lot of ass and look the other way of a ton of shady shit from merit sources and DT to get here.  How can we prevent others having to eat so much ass and colluding with things they see are clearly wrong just to level up their accounts in future?
Then that would be discussing how to help and improve the forums software and control systems and make the forum a far better place conducive for growth and success not a broken corrupt echo chamber that puts new members off from joining due to the lack of instant financial gratification.

Let's face it the lure of bitcointalk over reddit, Twitter etc is that average people and even below average talented people could come with nothing and make some coin. I mean obviously not the super below average verging on retarded members that have been here years and still have to spam sig for dust. But the majority.

Get the merits applied. I like helping you guys but dont be so ungrateful.

Simple defense:  Point out you are OgNasty and you will stop attacking them.   My name wasn't mentioned once in that entire post.   :o

Hilarious fought to unban me, always responds to my questions, helped me create a new pinned topic recently etc. My guess is they are the only mod that will respond here too. So yeah, what a terrible moderator..being so helpful and all.

I’ve had posts deleted too here and there, some being questionable imo , but I know the mods do their best period. It’s not an easy job, especially having to read ridiculous rants like yours here.

Here’s some advice, if you want them to take your seriously, then act like an adult.

OP is not OgNasty. It's cryptohunter on his ~10th account.

I disagree (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5316934.msg56349050#msg56349050).   CH had a hard on for you, not me.  OG is jealous of us both.

Speak up about what?  Suspected and/or real trust system abuse?  Trust isn't moderated on this forum, so what the hell do you expect them to say?  And it's not as though this is your first thread bitching about the same issue.  Across all the accounts you've employed, it's probably in the high double digits at this point.

And if you don't like bitcointalk or don't agree with how it currently operates and you can take a extremely-not-subtle hint (i.e., you being ignored by the moderators for years now), find another discussion forum to post on.  Obviously you're having zero impact on how the forum is being run and that isn't likely to change in your lifetime, so just give it up already, eh?

I actually chuckled out loud at that. 

ew go suck your mom

Cryptohunter had and has a hard one on everybody with his 10+ Alt Accounts .
Wonders me that he has not created a new one already .
He only complaining about Moderators and DT Members , oh and i forgot Trolling.

CH when you come up with something new ?

How amusing.

Not one attempt to push back or debunk my core points? What is the point of replying to basically say we can find no flaw at all in your reasoning but we want you to shut up.

Thanks morons

Come on you guys can do better.

Obviously some are not even trying or perhaps they are. With super low functioning people it can be tricky to know.

I mean the pharmacist aka Hugeblackwoman clearly just trying to max out that chipmixer spam.
His post amounts to : the trust system is broken but stop mentioning it because it allows retards, non achieving scammer supporters and protectors like me take the best rev streams. Its NOT MODERATED only by ourselves who are all milking the forum nicely in one way or another so we choose not to do anything about the abuse lol

Which is all off topic anyway.

The other morons arguing about who it is relaying these truths to people.

Pugwash or tman here revealing his incest hang ups. His low functioning spew pulled to pieces.

Now focus, concentrate. Pool efforts if need be.

Field a sensible counter argument that pushes back against my core points.

I tire of slapping you corrupt fools around into each other over and over. I know that suchmoon is sick of being crushed and humiliated publically but surely one among you will know take up the mantle and challenge my points directly.
I mean the outcome will be the same since the truth cuts through corrupt bullshit excuses and double standards hypocrisy with zero resistance.

Read it again, take your time, have another go.

There seems no doubt that what I say is entirely correct and true.

Thanks for confirming.

Just say in future... we agree you speak the truth but we dont want to hear it because we like the corrupt and gamed system as it is.


@chibitcity

Like  CH and other real contributors with a sense of fair play there is no question of attacking people or going after them first.
Hilarious is greedy of course this is without doubt. However being a mod maxing out their pay for being here would be fair enough.

But when you are supposed to be impartial and you openly side with proven scammers and deliberately join with them to punish whistleblowers via sneaky and biased moderation and openly attacking them then there is no more accepting their actions without fair and transparent explanation that stands up to scrutiny.

I actually think she has improved but any mod must come forward if their actions are challenged.
If they have nothing to hide or fear why not publicly come out and say I deleted that because x or I marked that bad because X. As to giving 10 merits to people for posting a provable false off topic demand to stop legitmate debate that is brazen but very useful abuse.

I dont care much about Hillary so long as she is objective and will dare to come and present robust reason to support her actions
I ask for no special treatment. The on topic relevant truth shouldn't be interfered with it should be supported.

Let me ask you to present a ridiculous rant. We will examine it together.
I mean if there is no conclusively debunked information or it is clearly the truth then perhaps you need to have another look at the word ridiculous.

Another long paragraph avoiding typing my name - I wonder how often OG had to hit that backspace key when he typed my name out of habit?  I guess I'll take advantage of the peace in his belief he is operating anonymously.  

"A scammer by any other name still steals the same" -- author unknown.

If you want to become OG, then simply neglect to mention vod ?
Does anyone know how to contact vods parents. ( dont tell owlcatz obviously). I mean clearly vod is having a serious episode.
If so then best to Tell them to get down to the basement immediately. Perhaps another 10% of his mind had been destroyed?

In a selfish way I'd prefer to do nothing. I love this forum when people follow me around replying to my every post.
Usually I check back in after a day or 2 and throw my phone across the room foaming at the mouth that I'm being ignored again on this account. That shadow banning technique is cruel and vicious

Now it's like I'm back to full power. They all want some again. Well not suchmoon of course who stalks my every post and thread by is still way to shy to get into any debates or discussions.

Can we drag ourselves back on topic though to meta threads being moved to rep and rep threads being left in meta.
Now who has read my explanation above of the clear distinction? Who disagrees and why?

Vod I accept that it is possible I could be OG but am currently unaware. Please make a laudanum is OG thread and produce your compelling independently verifiable evidence. I mean I'm searching my sofa for that 2600 BTC you claim I should have, but I'm coming up considerably short atm. I need all the help you can provide in jogging my memory :)

Please no more about this here. Read the OP and do your best to stay on topic.

Was this like your unawareness that you lost everyone's money?

Groundless speculative off topic irrelevant and false stalking spam.

I've reported it,  but the biased mods will mark it bad.

Try to stay on topic. There was literally no effort made to tie this to the OP.

So we're all agreed? The thread shouldn't have been moved.

You don't agree then all you need to do if field an argument that hold up under scrutiny or point out specifically what is wrong with the reasoning I detailed above.

Or just hide away and I'll just take that as he's just bitch slapped us into line again.

It is not groundless - you said you could be OG.   Just like you, he takes the same kind of breaks when he gets tired of ignoring my questions.

I am replying on topic - even if it's just a single sentence like you use when you post off topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5299031.msg56365923#msg56365923).  I don't report your posts, for I don't feel you have much pull anymore.

The mods understand how the forum operates - they can guess who you are the same way I can - but they don't feel you can order them around.

:)

I think that was after you were insisting that I was and getting all excited and horny at the prospect.
I could be vod? Am I vod now?

There is no ordering mods around.

Mods should be objectively and transparently working to enforce the forums rules consistently and fairly for everyone. If not they should explain why?

Your post is spam, off topic, irrelevant, false, and dangerous.

Imagine someone believed you that i was just an alt of the famous and provably honest forum treasurer who returned 500btc  and I offered a 500btc escrow service for other members. ?

Anyway please discuss the on topic and relevant points that are made in the op..
Or go spank off in another thread about laudanum = OG

So when you get horny, you say you could be OG?  That's odd, even for a sociopath.

That's my cue. Knowing his... "interest" in me, that seems like an easy enough hypothesis to test.

https://t.furaffinity.net/23502347@400-1494623311.jpg (https://d.furaffinity.net/art/cptqw4rk/1494623311/1494623287.cptqw4rk_rita4_sfw_scale.png)

Go on, Laudanum, say who you're an alt of. You know you want this. You can't resist. :-*

If you're not going to believe what I say then there's no point trying to interact with me. There's dozens of mods here. I generally ignore any reports on you or from you and whatever alt you're using this month because I can't be bothered reading through your blabble most of the time so your beef should be with whatever other mods have handled them, but in most cases I see it's you that's in the wrong and not them. And why have you started misgendering me? That is a very serious offence and will likely earn you negative feedback from timelord.


Then why would I waste my time on this. If I say the earth is round then you're going to try argue it's flat. You're congratulating yourself on winning a game where you don't know the rules and you will pronounce yourself the victor regardless of performance.


It's not OG, unless OG is putting a lot of effort into trying to expertly appear like CH. CH has a beef with most people here: Staff, People on DT, anyone with a sig, anyone who merited someone or something he doesn't like and the list goes on.

Lol well I believe you would move it as I said. You haven't debunked my points as to why it is not a rep thread and is clearly a meta thread.

You don't really interact. You say something like or similar to " well ch is wrong about everything my friends who I include on DT are not scammers and he is a troll for saying they are"

Then when the independently verifiable evidence demonstrates they are undeniably scammers and ch is telling the truth and not trolling,  then you just run off.

Same with this meta or rep. I have just explained why it was was clearly a meta thread not an individuals rep thread.
You've not attempted to debunk those points or field a counter argument.

You just said well if you dont believe I would call it a rep thread then why talk to me?

It would be like you claiming the earth was flat.
I come along and present the math and physics plus video evidence from space that it's a sphere and you just repeat that if i dont believe that you believe its flat, then no point debating it or examining the data further. You then say you just claim to be correct that the earth is a sphere because you dont understand the rules lol

Produce a specific account here and now where you can conclusively debunk " ch , mine, our? " core points on anything important at all . It must be easy if ch is always wrong and everyone else is in the right ? Maybe you are just mixed up ? You mean ch has never had a core point conclusively debunked because he only speaks the truth?

I'll wait.

You can't just say I think x therefore x is correct and expect that to be the end of it.

I have a beef with observable double standards and unfair bias.
If you're not afraid of transparent public debate then produce a clear point that I have made that you can conclusively debunk?

It is entirely true and easily demonstrable that you sided with proven scammers over whistleblowers and included those people on DT whilst attempting to brand the undeniable truth as trolling. It was despicable. Dont act like you're the good guy here.

You can't side with trust abusing scammers over their whistleblowers to the point of joining in claiming the independently verifiable truth is trolling and ensuring those scammers stay on DT then be the good guy hilarious.

Tman claimed you're called Hillary. I thought you guys were pals, well before he blew a gasket at you finally before quitting.
If that's not the case then fair enough.

Remember TOAA made a record of all of its deleted posts about 30 ish?? Not one was demonstrated to be off topic irrelevant was it? Go have a look.

If you are ignoring all reports about this account and from it then FAIR enough. That is a big improvement.  

Blabble = independently verifiable truth ? Okay.

Yes you seem to have improved now your pals have gone but you have been an undeniably biased and corrupt mod in the past.

Weirdly looking back over your history you were also on the launch of doge. I cant believe you're still needing 2 accounts maxed out with sigs and avatar rev streams.

If it wasnt you then fair enough just stay out of my way unless I break the rules and stop talking shit about me being wrong and not debunking a single core point I've made. That's just crazy talk.

Moderators actions should be transparent. It is sneaky to take action against a member and then when they come to meta with a genuine and legitmate question about the why or who they all hide up.

If you want to be paid as a mod then stand behind your actions.  I mean what action can be taken against you anyway? You can delete any abuse and ban people I mean its like a giant saying they fear reprisals from a toddler. Just an excuse to take action with zero responsibility.

Transparent objective standards that ensure consistent and fair treatment of all members should be the primary goal of this forum.
Blabbering they say.

People here are full of shit generally. Their prime tactic is abstract not specific accusations.
When you push them to bring specific examples they run away.

No more of that. Any claims people make will be drilled down hard on.

It is irrelevant if I am the ch or not. Just examine the argument and evidence contained within the post and examine it yourselves.
The content is important not who delivers it.  If it is independently verifiable then who posts it doesnt matter.


@ vile vixen aka agent foxpup

....errrrr okay I admit it ..I'm.....O...O. ...O.....Oh i need some wipes. Chat later.

Exactly!  You can't write like OG, the same topics as OG, make the same conclusions as OG, and try to decriminalize pedophilia like OG, and expect people to believe you are not OG.  :/

Can you not sully my threads with your weird pedo stuff every time.
Look I have no clue if you are a pedo or not, I've seen no proof or strong evidence of this. I have no clue if OG said he thinks pedo is not criminal or not. You just keep saying he said it. Post the evidence.
Make another thread, dump all the evidence you have and everyone can analyse it.
Sounds like bullshit but if you have independently variable evidence then that will be inarguably true.

Bring your evidence vod or stop spamming with this same stuff

Why is everyone afraid of transparent public analysis here?
You make a serious claim like this you bring the fucking evidence to support it  
Simple.

OG also claims I ruin his threads being a pedo, but he wants me shamed - not arrested.  Your campaign to decriminalize sex with children will not work.

A little light on evidence again.
I will have to assume these are lies vod if you refuse to present evidence publicly.

I mean if I'm OG why would I ask you to bring evidence to public view that corroborates your claims ?

You seem confused and obsessed

Oh and off topic by a mile.

Are you asking me what a million dollar scammer should do in this particular situation?  Look into your heart.

Million dollar?  I don't feel such peasants opinion should be of much interest. Less so the opinions of scammers like those proven scammers you have been afraid to tag due to cowardice before befriending and protecting them.

Now where was that evidence again?

I mean since the mods wont prevent the off topic obsessive ramblings about pedo stuff on this thread,  then even those will do to keep this on page 1.

Multi-million dollar.  You claimed you held ten million of the forum's money, right?

I appreciate you stating the obvious, even if it is engaging in discussion with a delusional person over the validity of their delusions.  Confirming the obvious for everyone, I don't use alt accounts on this forum to fight my trolls.  If I did, I would have a cleaner feedback history.  Whether people like me or not, they should at least respect the fact that I am not afraid to speak my mind using this account regardless of the consequences or who will get upset over it.

Rmcdermott927.  Obviously as honest as ever.

 ;)

Let's try to stay on topic.
I've not seen one sensible or credible attempt to debunk the clear points I made to hilarious before they ran off.