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Title: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: Waldaniam on February 14, 2021, 04:12:14 PM
I will try to explain everything shortly. I registered this account back in 2018 and forgot about it. Couple of days ago I started to use it again, and boosted it a little but, by buying paid copper membership. I opened some threads with interesting information, and was merited for that by forum members.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;threads;u=2346317;sa=showPosts

Yesterday I entered my profile and found out that it was red tagged by user VOD for that thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5316570.msg56325293#msg56325293 (It was multi merited) but the negative feedback reference leads to this thread.

 The feedback says: Another idiot passing off casual lies as if they were fact. I have personal experience with these types of idiots and know they are here to destabilize so they can steal and vanish.

Me and another forum members asked vod why did that. He said that I am the alt of a users who accused him of being a pedophile and a child rapist.  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=30747;page=untrusted;offset=0

For more details that are not alowed to post here just follow the reference of user kulmena on VOD's trust psge mentioned above or view the referense of sent feedbacks here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2656586


 I received merits from one of that user, and because of that VOD is now thinking, that I am the alt of him and all other guys, who left him very uncomfortable feedbacks, and who merited my posts. In that case I must be the alt of at least of 10 profiles. He hates user OG and when he found out that someone was on his side regarding that conflict he made him DT2 immediately, by adding him to his trust list. That user was tagged by Lauda and another DT members. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1170966  I offered VOD to check my IP via admins and if the registration IP will match with someone else, I will leave this forum forever. That offer was refused too.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5316934.msg56340664#msg56340664

Also there are accusations that VOD is running a ponzi scheme.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5314441.msg56269843#msg56269843

He is now attacking Theymos and accusing him of being a partner of OG in a ponzi scheme. (That is an obvious lie)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5316570.msg56332507#msg56332507

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5314441.msg56334759#msg56334759

He has a very bad habit of deleting his own posts, but this time if he will try I have the screenshots saved.

Actually I do not care if VOD was really involved in that unbelievable and dirty actions because it is not my business. I am just trying to stop him, because he is leaving negative feedbacks without any evidence (Check my posts) Also he is tagging profiles for sending merits. Regarding that I found the quote of Theymos.

If a DT member tags you for something stupid involving merit (ie. probably anything less than selling merit), then they're not going to be a DT member for much longer.

Also VOD is on Theymos distrust list.

https://loyce.club/trust/2021-02-13_Sat_04.07h/30747.html

So let's join Theymos and add VOD to our distrust list. Select Trust then Trust settings and add ~VOD.

Thank you and sorry for my English. I am Russian.


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: DireWolfM14 on February 14, 2021, 04:54:57 PM
Vod is one of the most active members on the forum, has done amazing work to find and expose scammers, is considered one of the most honest and reputable members here.  He also has the support of some of the most honest and reputable members here.

Is he prone to mistakes?  Obviously, we all are.  We're all human.

Is this situation one of those mistakes?  In my opinion, yes.  I don't know why he left you that feedback, and I don't agree with it.

Am I going to exclude Vod from my trust list over this indiscretion?  Fuck no!

If it's between the blemish on your account and the vast amount of work Vod has done to protect this forum, I'll leave it to you to guess which way a logical person would choose.


Yesterday I entered my profile and found out that it was red tagged by user VOD for that thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5316570.msg56325293#msg56325293 (It was multi merited) but the negative feedback reference leads to this thread.

Actually, it's this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5316570.msg56332662#msg56332662) post that Vod points to as a reference, not the original post at the top or the thread itself.


Me and another forum members asked vod why did that. He said that I am the alt of a users who accused him of being a pedophile and a child rapist.  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=30747;page=untrusted;offset=0

Interesting construction of the link above.  You seem like a very experienced SMF user.


Also there are accusations that VOD is running a ponzi scheme.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5314441.msg56269843#msg56269843

Butthurt causes people to grasp at straws.  A lot like this thread.


By the way did you take my advice that I left in the other thread:

The first thing I would recommend to you is to not use the feedback system for retaliation.  That will only hurt your chances of working this out with Vod.  Second, send Vod a PM and ask him for the specific reasons behind his feedback.  If it is a mistake, he'll remove it.  He's been very reasonable and accommodating in similar past situations.


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on February 14, 2021, 05:54:03 PM
Is this situation one of those mistakes?  In my opinion, yes.  I don't know why he left you that feedback, and I don't agree with it.

Am I going to exclude Vod from my trust list over this indiscretion?  Fuck no!
That about sums up my feelings on the matter as well.  Vod has not been the same in the last year, and I don't know if it's because of the stroke or COVID or what, but the feedback he left for OP doesn't seem like a feedback he would have given out in earlier times.  I honestly don't see the reason why he left it, and I've looked at the reference link.

I also suggested OP remove his retaliatory feedback in the other thread, and I'd again ask that he do it here.  I fully understand his frustration with this, but any negotiation with Vod about that neg is dead in the water as long as that counter-neg is in place.  Take the high road, OP--and I do wish you luck in this matter.


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: Vod on February 14, 2021, 06:13:15 PM
He said that I am the alt of a users who accused him of being a pedophile and a child rapist.  

My trust says you lie, like that.  :/

Actually I do not care if VOD was really involved in that unbelievable and dirty actions because it is not my business.

OG:  Vod rapes children
Waldaniam:  I don't have children - who cares?


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: OgNasty on February 14, 2021, 06:37:20 PM
Vod has not been the same in the last year, and I don't know if it's because of the stroke or COVID or what, but the feedback he left for OP doesn't seem like a feedback he would have given out in earlier times.  I honestly don't see the reason why he left it, and I've looked at the reference link.

Vod has lost his mind.  There is no way any sane person can excuse his behavior.  The only reason he's still in DT at all is because he attacks honest people and the slime currently polluting DT thinks as long as they keep his anger pointed at others it will benefit them.  Now that there are more corrupt than honest users in DT, it will take a lot more of this realization that Vod is a lunatic by those who support him in order to begin making any restoration of the trust network towards having any shred of honesty or decency.  Otherwise, we can watch as this bubble brings the least amount of activity to this forum of any previous, while one project after another continues to disappear or never be built so that Vod can try fruitlessly to sell shares of his scam to unsuspecting users tricked by the DT network into believing he isn't a scammer.  Granted the problem is bigger than just Vod.  I actually think LoyceV and suchmoon are the biggest offenders of this issue, but then again, I've just been here for nearly a decade and done a few hundred million dollars in trades here, while suchmoon gives out merit to his buddies and LoyceV can use tables, so what do I know?


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: eddie13 on February 14, 2021, 06:39:52 PM
I guess this answers a few of your questions in your other thread doesn’t it?

Can you get a red tag for basically anything? Yup.. You sure can ;)

Politics..

I kept my nose down for a long long time when I first came to this forum.. Trying not to make a little mistake and to learn the system.. How to survive around here.. Even through the changes..

These days I’m really starting to care much less about trying to play the middle ground or trying to keep from making enemies..
My most worthy debate opponent seems to have retired now, where I have been put into the same position you are now..

Just do what you think is right, but be willing to admit when you are wrong..
You’ll be ok..

A red tag from Vod isn’t the end of the world like it used to be.. And that’s about all I’m willing to say about that anymore..


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: suchmoon on February 14, 2021, 07:38:43 PM
That trust rating doesn't explain how the OP is a "high risk in trade" in a way that a reasonable person could understand so it should be either removed or revised with clear proof.



I actually think LoyceV and suchmoon are the biggest offenders of this issue, but then again, I've just been here for nearly a decade and done a few hundred million dollars in trades here, while suchmoon gives out merit to his buddies and LoyceV can use tables, so what do I know?

You've "done a few hundred million dollars in trades" the same way I've mined "a hundred million dollars" - if you count all bitcoins that went through your hands at $50k a pop.

This kind of dishonest cringy posturing is what makes you what you are - a blabbering fool trying to hold on to his imaginary forum trinkets by lying about other people. The funny part is that if you weren't such a narcissist and admitted one or two "mistakes" like Quicksy did you'd be a hero again but you won't.



Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: johhnyUA on February 14, 2021, 07:47:51 PM
Is Ognasty is going to merit any shit on Vod? Despite the fact that this one is pure shit. For example this one:
For more details that are not alowed to post here just follow the reference of user kulmena on VOD's trust psge mentioned above or view the referense of sent feedbacks here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2656586


This is just a pure shit, Vod don't have such feedbacks sent. OG discredits himself meriting such nonsense.

Thank you and sorry for my English. I am Russian.

Oh, korner, hello.

That trust rating doesn't explain how the OP is a "high risk in trade" in a way that a reasonable person could understand so it should be either removed or revised with clear proof.

I think this is another one from korner's endless horde. Neg feedback for him is always appropriate.


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: Vod on February 14, 2021, 07:51:09 PM
This is just a pure shit, Vod don't have such feedbacks sent. OG discredits himself meriting such nonsense.

If OG claims DT is full of scammers, why is he trying to get me removed so bad?  
(Things that make you go hmmmmmmm)


That trust rating doesn't explain how the OP is a "high risk in trade" in a way that a reasonable person could understand so it should be either removed or revised with clear proof.

A person who lies to gain sympathy/respect from the older wealthier scammers is not high risk of a trade?  What is more high risk than dealing with a ponzi/SEC scammer?


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: actmyname on February 14, 2021, 07:54:38 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=30747;page=untrusted;offset=0

Interesting construction of the link above.  You seem like a very experienced SMF user.
Not really. The most likely way to reach the page is to hit "Next" on the paginated untrusted feedback section and then check the URL or hit "Previous" at the bottom of the second page.
I'd like a better reference and justification for the tag, though.

A red tag from Vod isn’t the end of the world like it used to be.. And that’s about all I’m willing to say about that anymore..
People still act as if DefaultTrust feedback has not been diluted multiple magnitudes from its original standard back when the list was manually-chosen by theymos.


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: suchmoon on February 14, 2021, 09:06:52 PM
A person who lies to gain sympathy/respect from the older wealthier scammers is not high risk of a trade?  What is more high risk than dealing with a ponzi/SEC scammer?

Not sure what that means. Do you think the OP is Og's alt? Very unlikely. Or should anyone who has ever dealt with OgNasty and/or exchanged merits with him get red trust?

I think this is another one from korner's endless horde. Neg feedback for him is always appropriate.

Even if so, the trust rating doesn't say that. But I would agree that this pivot to self-mod troll threads does seem a lot like korner.


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: LoyceV on February 14, 2021, 09:06:55 PM
I actually think LoyceV and suchmoon are the biggest offenders of this issue
Cute, there you go again. Why can't you just leave me out of your drama? You've been trying to smear my reputation since I didn't pick your side in your feud with Vod, and of course since I called you out (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5202391.msg53230389#msg53230389) on your tacky behaviour (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5202391.msg53232702#msg53232702).
Then there is the case of your PM-threat with fake negative feedback (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098623.msg55840061#msg55840061) because you felt insulted (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5275043.msg55840262#msg55840262), and your retaliatory Trust exclusion.

Sorry for the off-topic, but since this isn't the first time OgNasty drags me into his feud with Vod by off-topic attacks on my reputation, I feel like I had to respond. Further reading: here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098623.msg55840061#msg55840061) and here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5275043.msg55840262#msg55840262).



Is this situation one of those mistakes?  In my opinion, yes.  I don't know why he left you that feedback, and I don't agree with it.
I saw the tag earlier already, and couldn't figure out the reason after checking the Reference link. I don't consider this correct use of the Trust system (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5191802.0).


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: scammed-by-nitro on February 14, 2021, 09:21:31 PM
Vod is spamming this forum on a daily basis.

He gives neg trust like its no big deal.
He has countless nag trust himself and even flags against him in the past and he is still allowed to spam here, why?

Everybody give this clown a neg feedback as well so he is learning.

I hate this guy and this thread has my full support!!


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: Vod on February 15, 2021, 03:42:19 AM
I actually think LoyceV and suchmoon are the biggest offenders of this issue
Cute, there you go again. Why can't you just leave me out of your drama? You've been trying to smear my reputation since I didn't pick your side in your feud with Vod, and of course since I called you out (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5202391.msg53230389#msg53230389) on your tacky behaviour (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5202391.msg53232702#msg53232702).
Then there is the case of your PM-threat with fake negative feedback (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098623.msg55840061#msg55840061) because you felt insulted (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5275043.msg55840262#msg55840262), and your retaliatory Trust exclusion.

Sorry for the off-topic, but since this isn't the first time OgNasty drags me into his feud with Vod by off-topic attacks on my reputation, I feel like I had to respond. Further reading: here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098623.msg55840061#msg55840061) and here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5275043.msg55840262#msg55840262).

I created BPIP - Suchmoon develops it and you contribute to it.  Scammers hate raw data, and every person that uses that site or the awesome extension can immediately see his intentions. 

To everyone that has said this is not appropriate trust, I am not ignoring you.  I have updated my thread here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5317264.msg56348734#msg56348734).


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: Waldaniam on February 15, 2021, 11:35:44 AM
Is this situation one of those mistakes?  In my opinion, yes.  I don't know why he left you that feedback, and I don't agree with it.

I honestly don't see the reason why he left it, and I've looked at the reference link.

That trust rating doesn't explain how the OP is a "high risk in trade" in a way that a reasonable person could understand so it should be either removed or revised with clear proof.

I'd like a better reference and justification for the tag, though.

I saw the tag earlier already, and couldn't figure out the reason after checking the Reference link. I don't consider this correct use of the Trust system (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5191802.0).

Thank you very much for your support. I sent all sendible merits that I had to all of you. Also I removed my negative feedback from VOD's profile. I guess there is no way to convince him that his feedback must be removed as well. Someone please merit OG on my behalf because I am out of merits.

Oh, korner, hello.

I have been accused of being the alt of at least 10 persons. Now someone called korner was added to that list. I already asked admins to check my registration IP and if it will match with scammers accounts, I will post an official excuse and leave this forum forever.


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: suchmoon on February 15, 2021, 01:57:30 PM
I have been accused of being the alt of at least 10 persons. Now someone called korner was added to that list. I already asked admins to check my registration IP and if it will match with scammers accounts, I will post an official excuse and leave this forum forever.

It's ok. We have tools now to figure out when you start deleting posts in this thread so you'll be red-tagged up the wazoo if it turns out that you lied.

Admins will not get involved and you know that, so the only reason I can think of to keep repeating that is deflection.


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on February 15, 2021, 02:10:54 PM
I sent all sendible merits that I had to all of you. Also I removed my negative feedback from VOD's profile. I guess there is no way to convince him that his feedback must be removed as well. Someone please merit OG on my behalf because I am out of merits.
You didn't have to send any merits to anyone based on whether they support your case (or at least question the evidence).  Save them for posts that are helpful to you and that you think are well written, not as a reward for support.

It's good you took the high road and removed the counter negative.  But regardless of what Vod does or doesn't do, your account isn't ruined--not even if you intend to trade on the forum.  People can see past a negative like the one Vod left you since it doesn't reflect on your trade-trustworthiness. 

I don't believe in counter-positive feedbacks, but I know other DT members don't feel the same way.  Maybe one of them might take pity on your case and counter Vod's negative.  Good luck in any case.


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: Laudanum on February 15, 2021, 04:38:12 PM
I actually think LoyceV and suchmoon are the biggest offenders of this issue
Cute, there you go again. Why can't you just leave me out of your drama? You've been trying to smear my reputation since I didn't pick your side in your feut with Vod, and of course since I called you out (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5202391.msg53230389#msg53230389) on your tacky behaviour (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5202391.msg53232702#msg53232702).
Then there is the case of your PM-threat with fake negative feedback (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098623.msg55840061#msg55840061) because you felt insulted (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5275043.msg55840262#msg55840262), and your retaliatory Trust exclusion.

Sorry for the off-topic, but since this isn't the first time OgNasty drags me into his feut with Vod by off-topic attacks on my reputation, I feel like I had to respond. Further reading: here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098623.msg55840061#msg55840061) and here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5275043.msg55840262#msg55840262).



Is this situation one of those mistakes?  In my opinion, yes.  I don't know why he left you that feedback, and I don't agree with it.
I saw the tag earlier already, and couldn't figure out the reason after checking the Reference link. I don't consider this correct use of the Trust system (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5191802.0).

You don't have a reputation. You're a no coiner non achieving nobody.
The forum would be no different had you never joined.

Actually it would be free of another deliberate scammer protector and shit poster who is milking the forum dry sig spamming for the highest rates you can get.

Vod should be removed because he has trust abused members accounts on numerous occasions and even admitted he is to much of a coward to act against scammers on DT because they may tag him back lol
Having admitted 10% brain death I dont think he is a reliable or credible default trust member.

It is probably the only thing theymos has done correcty since breaking the forum with his experimental control systems.
That is distrusting Vod.



Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: Vod on February 15, 2021, 05:55:49 PM
It is probably the most damming thing theymos has done to himself since breaking the forum with his experimental control systems.
That is distrusting Vod.

Oh fuck off OG - we already understand Theymos knew about the ponzi, SEC scams and theft.  He continues to pay you - so why are rocking the boat so much?

:)


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: actmyname on February 15, 2021, 06:10:06 PM
I don't believe in counter-positive feedbacks, but I know other DT members don't feel the same way.  Maybe one of them might take pity on your case and counter Vod's negative.  Good luck in any case.
As far as I'm concerned, both positives and negatives have waned in their effect: if someone trading with me is unwilling to actually go into the details of the trust ratings (incl. negatives) then that's not the kind of person that I would probably like to transact with. Where's the due diligence in "don't trust, verify" when it comes to the trust system? After all, for example, only 8 of my positive feedback ratings (unique users) pertain to actual trades. :)

People who merely look at the numbers on your profile are most likely the same people that mainly look at the titles when they are constructing their reply to threads.
I would have used counters in the past but nowadays they are simply pointless.


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: ~DefaultTrust on February 15, 2021, 08:42:52 PM
Actually Vod is idiot as he has gave my red tag with that reason:

By setting his username with a tilde (~), anyone trying to distrust him will instead trust him. You need to add ~~Default Trust

Hey Vod, I thought better of you. It turns out your brain is like a chicken LOL


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: Vod on February 15, 2021, 08:59:31 PM
Actually Vod is idiot as he has gave my red tag with that reason:

By setting his username with a tilde (~), anyone trying to distrust him will instead trust him. You need to add ~~Default Trust

Hey Vod, I thought better of you. It turns out your brain is like a chicken LOL

LoyceV pointed out my red tag is incorrect, so I've adjusted it.


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: Quickseller on February 15, 2021, 11:51:37 PM
Vod is one of the most active members on the forum, has done amazing work to find and expose scammers, is considered one of the most honest and reputable members here.  He also has the support of some of the most honest and reputable members here.
I reviewed Vod’s trust page and was able to find exactly four positive ratings involving any kind of financial transactions. I am not sure what makes you believe that Vod is “honest”. There are a small number of times in which Vod has apologized for his actions and promised to stay out of scam busting after he received harsh criticism from high ranking forum members, but I cannot recall many times in which Vod had admitted his mistakes on his own. There might have been one or two instances in which Vod removed a negative after the person received a few counter ratings, but I would see this as Vod feeling like his hand was being forced rather than correcting his mistake because he realized he was wrong on his own.
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Is he prone to mistakes?  Obviously, we all are.  We're all human.

Is this situation one of those mistakes?  In my opinion, yes.  I don't know why he left you that feedback, and I don't agree with it.

Am I going to exclude Vod from my trust list over this indiscretion?  Fuck no!

It is strange that someone is okay with a mistake being outstanding and continuing to support someone without trying to pressure them into correcting their mistake. You are in effect saying that you are okay with this person being wronged.

Vod is very petty and it is stances like this that enables the pettiness.


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: Vod on February 15, 2021, 11:54:18 PM
Vod is very pretty

It's my boob, isn't it?  Pervert.


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: suchmoon on February 15, 2021, 11:56:14 PM
Vod is very pretty

Awwww... Quicksy has really turned the corner, hasn't he. Even Lauda didn't get a compliment like that. Well done.


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: ~DefaultTrust on February 16, 2021, 03:24:01 AM
Actually Vod is idiot as he has gave my red tag with that reason:

By setting his username with a tilde (~), anyone trying to distrust him will instead trust him. You need to add ~~Default Trust

Hey Vod, I thought better of you. It turns out your brain is like a chicken LOL

LoyceV pointed out my red tag is incorrect, so I've adjusted it.

Maybe a DT member should first think about what to do? I think any adequate user should put you a tilde for such tricks.

BTW your tag is still not correct but it is normal for an idiot.

https://i.imgur.com/Jo06eQz.jpg

If you advise to trust me, then why are you doing it in red?

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I think that user Vod  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=30747)should be red-tagged because it deceives you to trust the user ~DefaultTrust (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile) !




https://i.imgur.com/olLywcA.jpg


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: Vod on February 16, 2021, 04:00:20 AM
BTW your tag is still not correct but it is normal for an idiot.

You seem to have cut off your image.  Here you go.  :)

https://clubcrypto-static-website.s3.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/chrome_fDRqKv9uMe.jpg


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: scammed-by-nitro on February 16, 2021, 04:35:58 AM
Vod u idiot clown.
Look at your own trust site u spam artist.


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: kruglikov on February 16, 2021, 08:52:25 AM
This thread is another confirmation that there are some untouchable bastards here on bitcointalk that are allowed to do whatever they want. And number one is VOD. P..e of s...t. A lonely alcoholic without any friends and life. As one forum member described him:

50 years old and hanging in a forum half a day writing 30+posts/day. Classic loser without a job.

Now I am more than convinced that all that accusation regarding VOD are nothing but the truth. Because of that he deserves to be reported here. https://www.facebook.com/antipedoalliance/ Also find the list of pedo fighters here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pedophile_advocacy_organizations. If you need his detail just follow the reference of feedback left by kulmena on his trust page. Untrusted feedbacks. Now go ahead and red tag or ban me, because of touching your untouchable and lovely VOD.  I don't give a s...t. If you think hi is not guilty than god will judge everyone. He knows everything! He sees everything! He hears everything! And He has the very right answer to everything.


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: ~DefaultTrust on February 16, 2021, 10:47:21 AM
BTW your tag is still not correct but it is normal for an idiot.

You seem to have cut off your image.  Here you go.  :)

https://clubcrypto-static-website.s3.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/chrome_fDRqKv9uMe.jpg

Yes.
My red-trust-list is the list of well known liars and scammers. Welcome there Vod! Feel free to invite your friends there. I collect idiots like you.


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: Vod on February 16, 2021, 05:37:52 PM
I don't give a s...t. If you think hi is not guilty than god will judge everyone. He knows everything! He sees everything! He hears everything! And He has the very right answer to everything.

God will judge you for not calling the police on me and saving those poor helpless children.  You are a sick fuck that needs to die.  :(


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: OgNasty on February 16, 2021, 07:13:15 PM
I actually think LoyceV and suchmoon are the biggest offenders of this issue
Cute, there you go again. Why can't you just leave me out of your drama? You've been trying to smear my reputation since I didn't pick your side in your feut with Vod, and of course since I called you out (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5202391.msg53230389#msg53230389) on your tacky behaviour (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5202391.msg53232702#msg53232702).
Then there is the case of your PM-threat with fake negative feedback (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098623.msg55840061#msg55840061) because you felt insulted (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5275043.msg55840262#msg55840262), and your retaliatory Trust exclusion.

Sorry for the off-topic, but since this isn't the first time OgNasty drags me into his feut with Vod by off-topic attacks on my reputation, I feel like I had to respond. Further reading: here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098623.msg55840061#msg55840061) and here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5275043.msg55840262#msg55840262).



Is this situation one of those mistakes?  In my opinion, yes.  I don't know why he left you that feedback, and I don't agree with it.
I saw the tag earlier already, and couldn't figure out the reason after checking the Reference link. I don't consider this correct use of the Trust system (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5191802.0).

You don't agree with the feedback, yet you support his inclusion into DT thereby supporting his feedback...  You are beginning to sound like an idiot defending your own manipulative use of the trust network.  Also, you are the one who retaliated against me with the trust network after I called you out for supporting harassment of honest users.  Funny how you guys are always the victims, never do anything that has any effect on the blockchain, always trying to educate others on how to behave, and then turn out to be the biggest lying abusing worthless pieces of trash on the forum. 

You are what's wrong with this place LoyceV and your continued support of those who are clearly in the wrong to appease your circle of trust abusers is exactly why this place continues to fade into irrelevance.  I can't wait until the pigs you lay with cover you in shit, it will be well deserved.


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: Vod on February 16, 2021, 07:21:00 PM
You are what's wrong with this place LoyceV and your continued support of those who are clearly in the wrong to appease your circle of trust abusers is exactly why this place continues to fade into irrelevance.  I can't wait until the pigs you lay with cover you in shit, it will be well deserved.

You said the same thing about me.  I then proved you so wrong you're losing all your alts.  So you switch to someone who has a history of being diplomatic and probably won't fight back.

I don't think LoyceV will ever lay down with you or Theymos, you shitty pig.  Unless you have proof he ran a ponzi scam, or supported a ponzi scam.  Do you?



Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: actmyname on February 16, 2021, 07:22:17 PM
You don't agree with the feedback, yet you support his inclusion into DT thereby supporting his feedback...
This is something that should be discussed, though. The true threshold of unwarranted ratings that will make people start to question inclusions.

How many "bad ratings" should a single person get away with? What standards should the ratings uphold? Would be good to apply this to everyone in DefaultTrust, active or prospective, and see which members have a high percentage of false positives toward supposed scammers (or rather, false negatives). In reality, we should always redundantly tag accounts rather than relying on single points of failure. We should always move towards decentralization as opposed to against.


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: suchmoon on February 16, 2021, 07:49:35 PM
What standards should the ratings uphold?

How would you enforce any such standard?

With 100 members in DT1 the "standard" is essentially what the majority "votes" for with their inclusions. It's slow and inefficient but in the long run it seems to gravitate to some sort of nearly-sane equilibrium, as evidenced by most egregious abusers being excluded, although it also allows old abusers to resurface once the outrage over their actions fades (which might or might not be a good thing depending on your view on forgiveness and all that crap).

~

I can't wait until you try to pull one of your usual stunts on LoyceV... like including someone who red-trusts him. It shall be cringy AF.


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: actmyname on February 16, 2021, 07:56:23 PM
How would you enforce any such standard?
51% attack the DefaultTrust network maybe. :)

Actually, in its current state, you need far less power to usurp the system as long as you stay under theymos's radar.
Probably in the form of exclusions etc. against opinion-based feedback. Like I said: you shouldn't be forced to always justify non-exclusions with the common excuse, "ah, but they've provided more to the forum in these feedbacks" - most of the time, that's merely a fallacious deflection, isn't it? That's why I talked about redundant negatives.

Shouldn't be a strong point of argumentation that appears every time we have this type of discussion.


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: suchmoon on February 16, 2021, 08:17:56 PM
Probably in the form of exclusions etc. against opinion-based feedback.

But that's not enforcement, merely a statement of how it's supposed to work (and does, for the most part). No one can tell anyone what to do and if you try you'll likely get pushback from people who would otherwise agree with you if they had the illusion that they came up with this decision independently.

However you can exclude people who don't comply with your idea of standards and since the number of exclusions is not limited you have quite a lot of leverage with that (that's abused too, see peloso). So if someone is not happy with Alice AND with other users not taking action and feels very strongly about it - the nuclear option would be to exclude Alice and everyone else who's including (or not excluding while being on DT1) Alice.



Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: kruglikov on February 16, 2021, 11:13:13 PM
I don't give a s...t. If you think hi is not guilty than god will judge everyone. He knows everything! He sees everything! He hears everything! And He has the very right answer to everything.

God will judge you for not calling the police on me and saving those poor helpless children.  You are a sick fuck that needs to die.  :(

Dude I already promised you that you will die vero soon from alcoholism, cirrhosis or cancer. I saw a lot of patients like you when working in rehabilitation centre. Now you think you are OK. But An increase in the volume of the abdomen, the appearance of changes in consciousness and behavior That what is happening with you right now. Your behavior on this forum changed a lot and I am sure in the real life too. All this is the clear sign that you are sick and die very soon ALONE IN THE HOSPITAL and nobody will be around because you don't have any friends. Also no one will visit the funerals of yours. Dude you are immoral, greedy, vengeful mot.......ker who will sell out anyone for money. Thats who you are.


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: Laudanum on February 17, 2021, 12:31:55 AM
I don't give a s...t. If you think hi is not guilty than god will judge everyone. He knows everything! He sees everything! He hears everything! And He has the very right answer to everything.

God will judge you for not calling the police on me and saving those poor helpless children.  You are a sick fuck that needs to die.  :(

That is a bit heavy vod. You shouldn't be saying things that could be construed as a threat of harm or worse.
You should know that.

I don't think you really mean it though. When is the last time you ventured out of the basement?

Vod isn't getting excluded. The more corrupt and dirty the more entrenched they are.
The other mass of colluding filth know that.

The very design of the merit/trust system forces collusion. Even those that would like to act against vod dare not.

I mean even vod dare not act against other scammers on DT, he has admitted as much previously.

I guess blame the game not the players. The game exists due to the rules and parameters set in place. Those were set in place by??
Yes meta board is where you want to go with things like this.
Do you want to improve the forum for everyone? Then discussing what measures can be put in place to ensure this doesn't happen in the future to other members is just how it needs to be framed.

I mean why do DT fight so hard against the introduction of transparent objective standards as a basis for the trust system ?

Even more strange why has theymos not made sure they do?

He made the flags then wussied out on removing the subjective and abused red tags?
Simply made things far worse because he removed the requirement of proven scamming or strongly looking to set up a scam or attempting to scam. I mean not that the trust abusing scammers on DT gave one shit about what he said anyway. Neither did theymos if was all just words. I mean if he was serious then how come he 1 did nothing about red tag abuse before and then grandfathered the abuse in and even added his own extra lies into the mix by bungling the warnings that now read...several members have said they think he is a scammer when that's undeniably false.

The only way to get vod and other scumbags off DT is take it always to meta board but frame the thread as a system wide solution proposal to your specific abuse.  Meta needs to have a full page of those suggesting a move to transparent objective standards than ensure every member is treated the same and that the trust system is not diluted with bogus crap until it is useless and dangerous

I have no clue why anyone thinks rep forum is useful? Or asking other DT to help is useful.

Lol nobody is going to risk their chipmixer dust to help you.

Bust meta board apart.  Keep drumming into theymos head that the forum is corrupt and dangerous until he goes flag2 and 3 only with flag1 being tightened to specific examples of strong evidence to attempt or set up a scam.

No point marooned out here on rep.

There is only 1 person with the power to help. Dt are too entrenched and too financially incentivised to collude

Understand this.

Keep asking theymos why he's such a fan of the central banking design and not the transparent trustless system that ensures everyone is treated in the same way.

Why is he not going flags only and tightening up the lemons flag 1?


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: Vod on February 17, 2021, 12:38:02 AM
I don't give a s...t. If you think hi is not guilty than god will judge everyone. He knows everything! He sees everything! He hears everything! And He has the very right answer to everything.

God will judge you for not calling the police on me and saving those poor helpless children.  You are a sick fuck that needs to die.  :(

That is a bit heavy vod. You shouldn't be saying things that could be construed as a threat of harm or worse.

I expected such a reaction from you OG.  You have been campaigning for years to decriminalize pedophilia, and I have always spoke out against it.   People who protect people who rape children should be killed.   Edmonton State Police:  780-423-4567


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: TalkStar on February 17, 2021, 12:55:29 AM

Thank you very much for your support. I sent all sendible merits that I had to all of you. Also I removed my negative feedback from VOD's profile. I guess there is no way to convince him that his feedback must be removed as well. Someone please merit OG on my behalf because I am out of merits.
If you think that someone will take your side for getting merit from you then yeah you will get some people's participation here but thats not gonna help you in your case for sure. Its look like you are giving donation for supporting you which is completely wrong. You should learn about the perfect use of smerit first and see how others spending from their vault.


I have been accused of being the alt of at least 10 persons. Now someone called korner was added to that list. I already asked admins to check my registration IP and if it will match with scammers accounts, I will post an official excuse and leave this forum forever.
Its your choice to leave the forum or not but i don't think its a proper solution.


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: Vod on February 17, 2021, 01:01:54 AM
Its your choice to leave the forum or not but i don't think its a proper solution.

Get the BPIP extension and you'd see he was banned a day or so ago.


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: Laudanum on February 17, 2021, 01:17:18 AM
I don't give a s...t. If you think hi is not guilty than god will judge everyone. He knows everything! He sees everything! He hears everything! And He has the very right answer to everything.

God will judge you for not calling the police on me and saving those poor helpless children.  You are a sick fuck that needs to die.  :(

That is a bit heavy vod. You shouldn't be saying things that could be construed as a threat of harm or worse.

I expected such a reaction from you OG.  You have been campaigning for years to decriminalize pedophilia, and I have always spoke out against it.   People who protect people who rape children should be killed.   Edmonton State Police:  780-423-4567

Can you show me the evidence where OG has sought to decriminalise pedophilia? Or just more voices in your head? That sounds like a serious allegation.

So then you claim it certainly isn't you being referenced in that online complaint? Nothing to do with you at all?

This person seems to be admonishing you for allegedly doing something pedo ish,  so you say that he should be killed for protecting paedophiles? I see.

Stop trying to divert attention away from your own actions.
Once these have been transparently analysed then people can make up their minds on the best course of action.



Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: Vod on February 17, 2021, 01:20:29 AM
Can you show me the evidence where OG has sought to decriminalise pedophilia?

You've been accusing me of raping children for years, but you don't believe it's criminal.


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: TalkStar on February 17, 2021, 01:29:32 AM

Stop trying to divert attention away from your own actions.
Once these have been transparently analysed then people can make up their minds on the best course of action.


Don't you think you are trying to change te meaning of "transparent" in your own way?

People are analyzing through their own mind but it seems to me that you are not happy with the result.


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: Vod on February 17, 2021, 01:37:33 AM
Now I am more than convinced that all that accusation regarding VOD are nothing but the truth. Because of that he deserves to be reported here. https://www.facebook.com/antipedoalliance/ Also find the list of pedo fighters here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pedophile_advocacy_organizations. If you need his detail just follow the reference of feedback left by kulmena on his trust page. Untrusted feedbacks. Now go ahead and red tag or ban me, because of touching your untouchable and lovely VOD.  I don't give a s...t. If you think hi is not guilty than god will judge everyone. He knows everything! He sees everything! He hears everything! And He has the very right answer to everything.

kruglikov, I really hope you didn't do what you claimed:
Reported him with his real name to all organizations mentioned in reference. Please join me.

These organizations are used for revenge all the time like this, and they are well aware of what ripoffreport is.  If any law enforcement contacts recognize my name from the past (been online since the 90s) they will reach out and I'll have to show the threads that will probably get OGNasty injured.

Is that what you wanted?   Some people do think pedophilia is a crime, and they won't look fondly on his campaign to normalize it.  


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: Quickseller on February 17, 2021, 02:26:40 AM
You don't agree with the feedback, yet you support his inclusion into DT thereby supporting his feedback...
This is something that should be discussed, though. The true threshold of unwarranted ratings that will make people start to question inclusions.

How many "bad ratings" should a single person get away with? What standards should the ratings uphold? Would be good to apply this to everyone in DefaultTrust, active or prospective, and see which members have a high percentage of false positives toward supposed scammers (or rather, false negatives). In reality, we should always redundantly tag accounts rather than relying on single points of failure. We should always move towards decentralization as opposed to against.
I think it should be clarified that there is a substantial difference between preemptively tagging someone and subsequently removing a tag after further consideration and/or additional evidence coming to light, and tagging someone wrongly and leaving the tag on the account.

In this case, I have not seen any posts from Vod even trying to defend his tag, and I have not seen anyone who supports Vod ask him publicly to reconsider his tag, or to try to defend his tag. Over the years, there have been other similar cases, in which Vod left a questionable tag, and he was never even pressured to defend his tag, his defenders simply said that Vod has left a lot of good ratings in the past, and that they are going to look past the questionable tag. There have also been other situations in which someone received a questionable tag from Vod, handled the situation poorly, and subsequently received additional tags after trolling and/or deciding to rage quit. The later is especially bad for the community because it effectively removes people from the community really for no reason.

To answer your question, I think someone shouldn't be able to get away with many "bad ratings". I don't think this should be a percentage, but rather a raw number, and that number should be very low. I would also view a "bad rating" that is being defended but may not necessarily agree with differently than a "bad rating" in which is not being defended. IMO the later should be viewed much more harshly, and should not be tolerated.


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: kruglikov on February 17, 2021, 02:42:04 AM

Kruglikov, I really hope you didn't do what you claimed:
Reported him with his real name to all organizations mentioned in reference. Please join me.

These organizations are used for revenge all the time like this, and they are well aware of what ripoffreport is.  If any law enforcement contacts recognize my name from the past (been online since the 90s) they will reach out and I'll have to show the threads that will probably get OGNasty injured.

Is that what you wanted?   Some people do think pedophilia is a crime, and they won't look fondly on his campaign to normalize it.  

Yes Martin I contacted all of them. Also I was chatting with a head of this Alliance https://www.facebook.com/antipedoalliance/ He promised me to investigate that matter. I did that because a lot of people including me are really interested if you are really guilty of that accusations or not. And I do not care how you will explain your past and present activities to any law enforcement. And yes Pedophilia is a crime.

Activities related to the sexual exploitation of children, shall be punished by death or imprisoned for not less than 30 years or for life.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2251

Enjoi...


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: suchmoon on February 17, 2021, 02:47:17 AM
To answer your question, I think someone shouldn't be able to get away with many "bad ratings". I don't think this should be a percentage, but rather a raw number, and that number should be very low. I would also view a "bad rating" that is being defended but may not necessarily agree with differently than a "bad rating" in which is not being defended. IMO the later should be viewed much more harshly, and should not be tolerated.

This is so absurdly specific, probably a projection based on something you've done.

A bad rating/flag is bad regardless if it's defended by the person who posted it, "supporters", sockpuppets, what have you. A good rating/flag is good regardless of who may try to discredit it.


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: Vod on February 17, 2021, 02:52:20 AM

Kruglikov, I really hope you didn't do what you claimed:
Reported him with his real name to all organizations mentioned in reference. Please join me.

These organizations are used for revenge all the time like this, and they are well aware of what ripoffreport is.  If any law enforcement contacts recognize my name from the past (been online since the 90s) they will reach out and I'll have to show the threads that will probably get OGNasty injured.

Is that what you wanted?   Some people do think pedophilia is a crime, and they won't look fondly on his campaign to normalize it.  

Yes Martin I contacted all of them. Also I was chatting with a head of this Alliance https://www.facebook.com/antipedoalliance/ He promised me to investigate that matter. I did that because a lot of people including me are really interested if you are really guilty of that accusations or not. And I do not care how you will explain your past and present activities to any law enforcement. And yes Pedophilia is a crime.

Activities related to the sexual exploitation of children, shall be punished by death or imprisoned for not less than 30 years or for life.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2251

Enjoi...

Og's death will be on your hands if the radicals get to him first.   Hope he has bullet proof windows.  :/


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: Quickseller on February 17, 2021, 02:53:15 AM
To answer your question, I think someone shouldn't be able to get away with many "bad ratings". I don't think this should be a percentage, but rather a raw number, and that number should be very low. I would also view a "bad rating" that is being defended but may not necessarily agree with differently than a "bad rating" in which is not being defended. IMO the later should be viewed much more harshly, and should not be tolerated.

This is so absurdly specific, probably a projection based on something you've done.

A bad rating/flag is bad regardless if it's defended by the person who posted it, "supporters", sockpuppets, what have you. A good rating/flag is good regardless of who may try to discredit it.
The question of if a rating is good or bad is subjective. Different people view things different ways. Someone not defending a questionable rating is a sign they don't actually believe in the rating, but are rather leaving the rating up for personal reasons.


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: kruglikov on February 17, 2021, 03:11:21 AM
Og's death will be on your hands if the radicals get to him first.   Hope he has bullet proof windows.  :/

Can we consider this as a official death threat from you against OG? (Screenshotted) And the first person they will visit it's you as I understood. Call police Martin and ask for protection and purchase some surveillance cameras.


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: Laudanum on February 17, 2021, 12:11:21 PM
Can you show me the evidence where OG has sought to decriminalise pedophilia?

You've been accusing me of raping children for years, but you don't believe it's criminal.

Evidence vod that OG has said this not you just repeating yourself.

Bring some independently verifiable evidence.

If not you are trolling OG.

Not to mention claiming he should be killed?

Are you off your meds.


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: Vod on February 17, 2021, 01:38:37 PM
Evidence vod that OG has said this not you just repeating yourself.

Yes OG, Vod has the evidence.   So do many others - do you forget every post is recorded other than by Theymos?


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: Laudanum on February 17, 2021, 02:08:59 PM
Evidence vod that OG has said this not you just repeating yourself.

Yes OG, Vod has the evidence.   So do many others - do you forget every post is recorded other than by Theymos?

Produce please. Now.


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: Vod on February 17, 2021, 02:11:04 PM
Produce please. Now.

Or what OG?  You'll shame me as a pedo but recommend no one charge me criminally?   


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: Laudanum on February 17, 2021, 03:10:13 PM
Produce please. Now.

Or what OG?  You'll shame me as a pedo but recommend no one charge me criminally?  

I can't claim to know what OG will or will not do.

It seems you are going around in circles.

Let me recap.

1. I'm not OG
2. I've seen no credible or strong evidence that you are a pedo
3. I've not seen OG claim you are a pedo but pedo is not criminal anyway so you should not be reported.

Therefore until any of those things are supported by independently verifiable evidence I am not sure what to think.

You look stupid claiming all of those things without producing evidence when called upon.

Understand that. Then work from there.





Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: Vod on February 17, 2021, 03:11:13 PM
I can't claim to know what OG will or will not do.

Unless you're horny, then you realize you could be him.   ;)


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: Vod on February 18, 2021, 02:43:47 AM
Yes Martin I contacted all of them. Also I was chatting with a head of this Alliance https://www.facebook.com/antipedoalliance/ He promised me to investigate that matter. I did that because a lot of people including me are really interested if you are really guilty of that accusations or not. And I do not care how you will explain your past and present activities to any law enforcement. And yes Pedophilia is a crime.

Kruglikov lied (Og - I'm sure you knew that) but it did make me realize that one day a vigilante group might not review the history and believe these claims.  So I have decided to document the ongoing pedophile promotion on this forum before it all vanishes into history.   

Going forward, I have decided to accept OgNasty's continued offer of helping fundraise for my health, and hope all the Nastyfans out there will help promote my (loaded?) book on youtube and other social media!

:)


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: eddie13 on February 18, 2021, 02:55:35 AM

Kruglikov, I really hope you didn't do what you claimed:
Reported him with his real name to all organizations mentioned in reference. Please join me.

These organizations are used for revenge all the time like this, and they are well aware of what ripoffreport is.  If any law enforcement contacts recognize my name from the past (been online since the 90s) they will reach out and I'll have to show the threads that will probably get OGNasty injured.

Is that what you wanted?   Some people do think pedophilia is a crime, and they won't look fondly on his campaign to normalize it.  

Yes Martin I contacted all of them. Also I was chatting with a head of this Alliance https://www.facebook.com/antipedoalliance/ He promised me to investigate that matter. I did that because a lot of people including me are really interested if you are really guilty of that accusations or not. And I do not care how you will explain your past and present activities to any law enforcement. And yes Pedophilia is a crime.

Activities related to the sexual exploitation of children, shall be punished by death or imprisoned for not less than 30 years or for life.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2251

Enjoi...

Vod should be scared because when this scary Russian guy called all the lawyers and shit on me they interrogated me for 6 weeks straight..

NOT!!

What a jerkoff loser..


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: kruglikov on February 18, 2021, 08:06:45 AM
The problem is that you Vod (pedo) eddie13 (gay-hooker) suchmoon (lesbian) sent countless pm's to mods with a request to ban me, My true is too uncomfortable for you because one of you is running a ponzi scheme, another one was running a scam coin and a scam exchange, third one was involved in a huge scam and now is running an illegal betting website in texas. For me is just a fun to watch your reactions to my posts LOL. Now I'm working on a new website where everything will be brought to public, since it is not allowed to publish some personal info here. I will make it popular via some seo and social platforms advertising.Plus my more than 2000 followers on Twitter.So very soon you gonna be very popular. P.S. Wby vod is not tagged for the threats of killing OG via showing some documents to "radicals" Anyone else out of dt would be tagged countless times. Double standards huh?


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: eddie13 on February 18, 2021, 02:27:27 PM
Oh no!!
Not 2,000 Twitter followers for me to care what they think!!
Please have mercy on me..


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: suchmoon on February 18, 2021, 02:43:41 PM
suchmoon (lesbian) sent countless pm's to mods with a request to ban me

You seem to have a cringy combination of overinflated ego and victim mentality. I don't recall when was the last time I PMed mods about anything but sure as shit it wasn't about you. I did report some of your posts and if it contributed to getting your kulmena account banned - that's wonderful.


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: OgNasty on February 19, 2021, 07:45:12 PM
P.S. Wby vod is not tagged for the threats of killing OG via showing some documents to "radicals" Anyone else out of dt would be tagged countless times. Double standards huh?

Indeed.  I wonder if I made a website doxxing suchmoon full of lies and threatened to have her killed repeatedly on this forum if LoyceV would then include me in his DT list, or if that's only reserved for people who engage in this behavior against me?  We all know the answer...  This is a DT problem.  People that suffer from mental illness being on this forum is inevitable.  Adding those people to DT in order to terrorize honest people you are jealous of is pathetic behavior that needs to be addressed in this community. 


Title: Re: Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.
Post by: Vod on February 19, 2021, 07:54:17 PM
I wonder if I made a website doxxing suchmoon full of lies and threatened to have her killed repeatedly on this forum if LoyceV would then include me in his DT list

Sounds like an idea for a Twilight Zone "Choose your own adventure" book.  Your choices have always been your own but calling more people pedophiles will not decriminalize it.