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I've never seen this phenomenon again on any other site/forum. People actually beg for money and it seems more disappointing than scammy. Some of them create new threads and explain a non-sense story, that is clearly meaningless to us, and then they provide a bitcoin address to "help" them with their "life problem". But it gets worse! They create off-topic replies on some already discussed topics. Do they believe that we'll take them^[1] seriously?

Is there anyone that believes them and sends money to strangers? Is there anyone that doesn't have enough problems in his/her life and wants to give a part of his fortune to strangers? Just saying, because I've never felt that happy in my life.  ::)

I wonder, because they haven't stopped doin' it. They keep begging money months now and I assume that they've received some satoshis, otherwise they wouldn't do it.

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[1] If we assume that they are more than one person that just wants to make easy money.

Don't forget to report the thread which are created for begging because which is against forum rules, the thread will be trashed and the user will be nuked for sure.

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People can send money for no reason even but on the internet its rare to happen unless the user got emotional with the story the beggar shared.

I would say people easily get this false idea that we bitcoiner has so much money that we would not care about sending sats to other when they ask for it.

Bitcoin is not less than a dollar anymore that a faucet will give you 5 BTC 😛

Seriously, how emotional can you be? They literally tell you "I have no money for school send me some" or "I got robbed please send smth". On the so-called globalized scamming paradise, also known as "Internet", you'll see a lot of frauds. You know that you should never trust a stranger especially if he/she asks you for money (not to mention that the specific are newbies).

In real life, these people wouldn't beg you on the street. Why would they beg you on this forum?

According to the number 7 of the forum rules: No begging. Making use of the report button will be best, easy way for such people to be banned.


Scammers believe people can easily be convinced, but I doubt such giving can happen on this forum because we know a lot about scam and how to avoid.

Online strangers demanding for bitcoin or altcoin are scammers, I can never believe in such.

I think that they haven't. I've checked once or twice the wallets of the better "quality" stories I've found, sometimes after days, and they had not transactions at all.
I somehow think that the situation is different. I think that in certain circles the users of this forum are seen as brainless rich kids and the forum is seen (maybe because of all those airdrops of worthless tokens) as a place with easy to free money.
My view/theory covers the beggars, the people asking for no-collateral loans and all those attempting weak/un"polished" scams.



Doing that, but it doesn't seem to help much. I mean I know it helps, but these kids have more time than I do.



PS. Did any of you read the thread of that guy today basically asking about the 2010-2011-like faucets, since he wanted a couple of bitcoin for free?

It do help, as fast as many people report such thread, as fast as it will be deleted. That is why such threads are seen deleted as fast as possible. As we see such thread, we should report it so that the person's account will be nuked and the post to be deleted.

Why that hurry? No one is going to send them money.

Meanwhile in a parallel universe...

The begging has been very common in every crypto based subreddits but most of the time these begging are being autoremoved faster than our forum. With steep increase in prices, we are seeing an increased number of scammers and beggars similar to how we had in 2017. At times, I have seen that begging has ended up in threatening too where if forum members don't pay the beggar, they would end their life  ;D I couldn't recall the topic, but I think they were in 2019 time period where the beggar came up with a situation that his daughter was suffering from a rare disease and if the forum members doesn't donate, his daughter would die and thereby he would be committing suicide.

I still think one can beg for dogecoins and could receive a few for their begging in certain doge subreddits but I doubt such a bitcoin based subreddit exist today! IMO one of the most riskiest business which is happening through forum is Lending where even the trustworthy people run away with the lender's btc hence as @Charles-Tim said it's probably very risky to trust non-collateral loan takers too.

With the current insane market prices, even making 1 doge per hour through faucet is kinda becoming difficult.

I Know Which Country They All Come From (Too Afraid to Mention It Here), Because They Are Already Famous As Fraud Country

You Can See Their Attempts To Scam People On This Forum On The Lending Board

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5317901.0

[2] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5304882.0

[3] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5301274.0

[4] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5304055.0

Many More...

I am curious, if indeed they do it continuously (in this forum or on the internet).

Meaning... It is true that there are people who have been deceived by the way they are currently doing ...

I am more curious about the question "Is anyone still scammed on the internet in 2021?"

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Sorry For My Bad English, I've tried my best :)

That's the fundamental difference between online life and real life.  The layer of anonymity that the internet affords you basically takes away the fear to say things you normally wouldn't in a face-to-face conversation.  Haven't you realized that by now?

As far as why people beg here, a lot of newbies don't realize that bitcoin is actual money and they think people here are just going to give some of it away for nothing.  And then there are scammers posing as beggars (the ones with the hard luck stories and whatnot); any of those should be reported immediately to the mods.  Fortunately I haven't seen too many begging posts or threads lately--but that could be because they tend to get reported and nuked fairly quickly.  Back in 2015 it seemed to be a common thing.

People beg in real life...  Ever been to San Diego?  You can't walk to the corner without being asked for change.  Not to mention homeless people shitting on your doorstep if you live anywhere near the beach (sort of like sig spam here I guess).  I think this forum mimics life pretty well.  It used to be an amazing place for likeminded individuals to build on Bitcoin, but I digress...

I really don't get this attitude that people feel protected to act out of character online.  If anything, I'm quite toned down online.  Those who think I'm an asshole here would be in for a very rude awakening if they expected something more polite in person. 

I am actually surprised people don't beg more here.  I get the begging PMs occasionally and usually try to respond with something inspiring to actually help them instead of giving them free money to be blown on whatever vice they have.  I do wish I got as many messages from developers wanting to help build something as I got from beggars wanting something for nothing, but that's life and with the government hell bent on making everyone dependent upon them for their survival needs, I don't see that trend reversing anytime soon.

Being clear, there's nothing wrong with charity and giving money to those in need.  It's supposed to fill the role that government is trying to fill with social programs that are killing our economy.  There's a right way and a wrong way to go about it though.

In today's world begging is no more a scamming. I think it is an another type of business. But not a person who has self respect.  Before saying about your thread i want to share a story from my real life what i have seen. I live in a village for country lets keep it secret in our village beggars comes to our house to beg some rice from every House. From my childhood i saw lots of women and men but i remembered 1 women because when she comes our home to asked rice she prayed about me. And from last 13 years means when i was 5 i seen her first time and continuesly next 13 years she comes 1 day in every week to our village. So i remember her. Now i am 19. Last year i was going for a tution in another village which is a average distance from my house and after tution me and my friends comes comes. And that time i saw that begger women situp on a house stairs i thought she could be here to beg. But sudden i saw she entered the house and start watching tv. You couldn't believe her house is 20 X times expensive than our house. I was totally shocked. But still she begging. And next week she comes again to beg in our village. And my mom asked about that house but she couldn't say anything just say all just because of god. She still comes every week in our village.


So just think if people don't have shame to beg in front of others in real life. Then this is a online platform where you don't know him. Or you can't see his/her photo or any identity.  There here has a golden opportunity for him/her to run there business. Now YOU can asked me why i say begging is a business business business. Well it is a business for them. Because they get money. So they have no shame to run it. But we can do a one thing in this forum which is report. And we will do it.

If you don't have a job, or don't want to work. then you can create some messages and fake IDs, and post on thousands of sites. You only need a couple of donations from a bunch of those sites to allow you to spend your time on the beach while others do the work.

I've seen them here, begging and begging, however, it's not my business, I ignore it maybe it's better for me, than I should say something inappropriate.

Such people, I believe if they beg, most likely it will also be done in other places, such as Facebook, Twitter, etc., various modes, sadness, loss, calamity and so on.
Bottom line: can not do much, about them here, who have a begging nature, can only see and report, if, it is possible.

Honestly, I'm not surprised by them because they don't have a 'shy' attitude and they have already caught the 'lazy' virus.

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In the forum their faces are not visible, in real life they are not ashamed, what else is here, so it's their job and profession, no matter how strong we say to them, the job / profession is still being done.
It's just other people, think 2000 times give or not.

Scamming is gradually get upgrades. It comes in different formats and so many scammers device means by which the can easily take from the forum without been checkedmated or banned for forgery or other related crimes.
Most a times people go through a lot but that doesn't make begging an option. Bitcointalk has limitless opportunities where one can earn ranging from advertising your services, playing gambling or even ranking up to be highered by a campaign signatory

some of their stories sound almost the saddest of all actually that if you just wouldn't be reminded that there are scammers who do create tragic stories like their daughter has to undergo surgery otherwise she's going to die, you will actually feel the weight. but then again when you are reminded, you will not give in to it.


with the right motivation, yes they will make fake IDs as proof. i even dug someone online who from pretending to be bedridden and he wants to go home to brazil and posted his pictures on gofundme.

In fact, I have seen a similar phenomenon elsewhere on the Internet, as well as on numerous other forums.
This forum is actually specific because a lot of new users came attracted with a large increase in the value of bitcoin.
It's human nature to try to reach a goal in an easier and faster way.
There will be more and more situations like this and users begging for money as the value of bitcoin grows and I think that nothing can be done about it except to report such posts to the admins.

Most of the beggar thinks all crypto users on the forum are rich (Lol). I think yesterday I have encountered a beggar who is looking for money to set up a mining rig. I was made a reply there to remind the forum rules. But fortunately, the thread was reported and got deleted. I don't think forum users believe in this kind of story from a brand new account. So reporting them is the best solution since we can't prevent them. You can say this is one kind of emotional scam attempt that should handle with forum moderation since it's against forum rules.

They simply beg because they know that money moves in this forum. In other forums they can also ask but it does not move the same money that moves here. In this thread, all but one of us (Jet Cash) participate in signature campaigns, which means that we receive money regularly through the forum.

If we add that this is a Bitcoin forum, which is a digital money, I think it is clear that if you want to get money by begging you are more likely to get it in this forum than in this one:

https://www.gardening-forums.com/

We all have our own circumstances in life, so you can't blame them if they're desperate and as a last resort beg for money here in the forum hoping someone can/may help them. Though truth be told there's a thread like chance someone will give them. There are tons of way to earn money here, I think they don't have the patience to do so.

Do you remember the story of how the guy asked for donations in bitcoin? As a result, he was given $20 thousand
https://newdaycrypto.com/student-received-20k-bitcoin-donations/

There are always imitators of someone's ideas. Similar begging occurs on every forum or social network that is related to finance. People come up with stories about children's illnesses and all sorts of dramas. And I know many cases when scammers were hiding behind such stories, and in the end, they made a profit.
I do not want to refer to myself as callous people, and perhaps I will help with money, but only if I see really real problems. I believe that for help, those who need it better contact humanitarian organizations. Otherwise, all requests look like a fraud.

Begar millionaires are old stories as the history of money itself. I think it always be a intention in the human mind in win opportunity to obtain something without any in exchange simple as that fact.

This is not a surprise when you realize that 99% (my guesstimate) of the new member's goal is to leech of this forum, either via signature or bounty campaign. They see bitcointalk only through $$ prism so no wonder than you will have bunch of alt accounts begging for money. Doesn't cost them anything to ask after all.

Bitcointalk is simply perceived as a forum where people come to make money, so these things are bound to happen.

Life is pretty difficult for all, but imo, if you must beg, you should do so to people who can see and understand what condition you're in and requiring help, and more often than not, that's only possible IRL, it's improbable to talk about your problems online and expect someone to help you out, when such persons isn't sure you're saying the truth, doesn't know if you're a fraudster or can't see for themselves if you're well and truly in a tight situation.

More often than not, begging here or anywhere else online is a waste of time, if the world was somewhat of an utopia society, then such help could be possible, if one has problems, they should talk to a colleague, friend, family member or someone who can truly relate and appreciate the severity of their condition, and not on BTT forum, it's ludicrous to do so.

I have many reasons why I will not give a stranger over the social platform any money/crypto
+ They are total strangers I don't trust them
+ Am not very sufficiently balance in finance myself
+ I believe in giving those I see, those that knows me and they are having there own issues firstly
+ If you can be online you are not in desperate dieing need of help, there people who can't even afford they luxury they have
+ Encourage it and have more and more of it all the time.

Well, the world is so populated and it's getting more populated as I type, so the number of unique such type of people who comes asking for money increases as well, and hence I don't believe that they have a reason to beg as they might have in past got money, but I guess the number of first time beggars itself never stops. If they just stayed on the forum, gave it some time, they can earn some money from here but that will take effort and they be lazy like sloth ;D sometimes, I have also seen that when a gambler wins big amount, in that state (high dopamine and happiness) he rains away small amounts even to people he knows are just scams, so it might be possible that some of the money-askers actually have had received that kind of freebies that motivates them.

Send him this https://freebitcoins.appspot.com/ and tell him to keep trying. Eventually it will work.

People who don't know anything about Bitcoin beg for it. They think people will feel sorry for them and gift them some coins. We had a guy a while ago in the Croatian local who was trying to convince us that bitcoins are digits in Excel tables. It's incredible how far some people take it. Fancy internet money. You just double click on your Bitcoin miner.exe program on your desktop. Hit enter and get your bitcoin reward. That's how some people imagine mining. Since it's that easy, why not share it with those who beg for it. ::) 

LOL! Then I think that https://web.archive.org/web/20100805002250/http://freebitcoins.appspot.com/ would be even more appropriate.
It tells it has almost 500BTC to give out, the captcha looks legit, what could go wrong?  :D



Yep, this describes it pretty well.

To me they seem like under 20 y/o, I can’t think someone over that age really have the time to commit their time into begging rather than learning a skill that can pay off.

Most of the sob stories in lending section are made up lies and 99% people understand that.
Maybe that 1% really telling the true sob story but since they can type might as well get a job in data entry.

Btw is there any case in past where someone actually donated to a sob story on the forum?

I am not sure if you consider it a sob story or not, but there was the case of Phinnaeus Gage from last year. He posted a thread where he wrote that he has a brain tumor and doesn't have a long time to live. He asked for donations to help his family deal with the funeral costs and everything else after his death. Many people donated. Unfortunately, it looks like his account got hacked and whoever gained access to it scammed the community. 

If you are interested you can check the following links with more info on that particular case:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=24792
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5251076.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5251105.0

I did that when I joined first time (this is another ac, my first account was hacked in infamous bitcointalk hack), looking back it's one of cringiest things I have done online.

I think no body give money in this way to the strangers but still they will keep on trying and hope to get people money out of sympathy. If anyone want to give charity then there are genuine charity thread on this forum and also one can give charity in real world. I think on the forum, people write fake stories to get attention and easy money.

Scamming is worse than begging. For all I know, begging isn't even a crime (at least from where I come, it isn't yet) but fraud and scam are criminal activities punishable by law as capital offences.

There isn't anything wrong sending total strangers money. I have done this on several occasion, at least with street beggars. That's how philanthropy works. Remember that shit happens in real life and people could need genuine help from others. It's just that some dudes have taken to scamming others and preventing the real people in need from getting the help they need.

I agree with you and find it unusual that we have a rule on Bitcointalk that forbids begging when there are no rules (apart from community punishment in the form of flags and feedback) that disallows scamming. Some might think that (street) begging isn't allowed all over the world. And that's correct. In my country, it's against the law to beg, but people still do it. From time to time, the police prosecutes them. However, it's also not allowed to scam someone or steal his money, and the fines for the latter offenses are much more severe.

I think if someone knows about the forum, and how they can earn, or like beg money here, they also should know as a newbie they really can't ask for money straightaway. If their problems are legit, they can always ask friends/families or contact some online crowdfunding organization which can help, they just need proof of why you need funds (like for medical, they would need hospital bill proof, doctor's prescription etc) and they can quickly raise money that way in a legit way. Else, the chances of them begging here is like gambling, if someone gives them, then that's their profit, if someone doesn't, nothing they are losing.

The reason that I can think of when it comes to begging on this forum is because there are enabler that gives money to this people which obviously propagates the begging even more. Personally, I don't mind the begging as long the money that is going to be given is going to a good cause.

Did you know that most of the street beggars don't need help at all? If they are not disabled, and they have arms and legs, they may well go and earn money on their own. But in fact, these are the most ordinary lazy people who suddenly decided that someone owes them something. The same applies to begging here on the forum. If they know about cryptocurrency, then they are not completely hopeless, they know how to do something themselves. Therefore, for all compassionate people who believe in tearful stories, there is one way. Help on charity sites. Then you will definitely be sure that you helped people and not scammers.

In Germany, they call them "penner". They live of social welfare and don't want to work. The money they get from the state is mostly used to buy drugs and alcohol. Most of them can work, but they don't want to. 


I have two positive stories to share about street beggars that happened in my environment.

1. An uncle of mine lives with his wife close to my home. One day they hear a knock on their door. When they checked who it was, they saw a middle-aged woman dressed poorly who looked like a beggar. They ask her what she wants and she says that she needs money, is not begging, and is willing to work for it. Long story short, the woman has been cleaning my uncle's apartment once a week for the last 2 years. She is really good, works hard, and was even recommended to a few neighbors where she also does some cooking and cleaning.

2. An old man started coming to the gym I used to work out in to do maintenance on the gym equipment. Judging by his smell, it was evident that he lived on the streets and didn't take good care of himself. So I ask the owner who the guy was. He says the man used to be a mechanic and he came in offering to work in the gym. He promised to clean and fix the equipment and machines in exchange for food, shelter, and some money. The owner was pleased with what he could do + it saved him a lot of money not having to call professionals to maintain his gym equipment.

What I am trying to say is that the majority of beggars are lazy good-for-nothings. But some people just want to feel useful, were unlucky to have lost their jobs, and need a chance to feel like human beings again. I think it's worth keeping an eye out for people like that.   

People take advantage of other people for their convenience.
But I don't understand how people can fall for that trick
Helping people is okay, but abuse is what is wrong in this world

In real life, I don't really care about beggars who are physically perfect and strong enough to work. They are seen as people who are lazy to work and start making money the easy way and that's begging. Have you ever heard of a beggar having a sizable house, a nice vehicle and a car? I have seen him with my own eyes as he parked his car and started wearing shabby clothes to beg.

For a country that has a high social culture towards fellow human beings, a beggar can make a lot of money every day and that has added to the list of beggars who are physically strong. It is unfortunate. In this forum, I think a lot of them are just playing drama that go against their real situation. They take advantage of the humility of anyone here to make money, but so far I haven't given him a cent.

The reason some people beg for money is because they want to earn money the easy way because there are some people who are lazy enough to work for it. They know that some are kind hearted and will most likely to give small amount of money to those who beg. I am poor but I did not beg to some strangers to give me money but I'd rather borrow money and pay it later.