Why do people beg on this forum?

[xanxus.kun]

We all have our own circumstances in life, so you can't blame them if they're desperate and as a last resort beg for money here in the forum hoping someone can/may help them. Though truth be told there's a thread like chance someone will give them. There are tons of way to earn money here, I think they don't have the patience to do so.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Do you remember the story of how the guy asked for donations in bitcoin? As a result, he was given $20 thousand
https://newdaycrypto.com/student-received-20k-bitcoin-donations/

There are always imitators of someone's ideas. Similar begging occurs on every forum or social network that is related to finance. People come up with stories about children's illnesses and all sorts of dramas. And I know many cases when scammers were hiding behind such stories, and in the end, they made a profit.
I do not want to refer to myself as callous people, and perhaps I will help with money, but only if I see really real problems. I believe that for help, those who need it better contact humanitarian organizations. Otherwise, all requests look like a fraud.

[apleio]

Begar millionaires are old stories as the history of money itself. I think it always be a intention in the human mind in win opportunity to obtain something without any in exchange simple as that fact.

[Rikafip]

This is not a surprise when you realize that 99% (my guesstimate) of the new member's goal is to leech of this forum, either via signature or bounty campaign. They see bitcointalk only through $$ prism so no wonder than you will have bunch of alt accounts begging for money. Doesn't cost them anything to ask after all.

Bitcointalk is simply perceived as a forum where people come to make money, so these things are bound to happen.

[Coyster]

Life is pretty difficult for all, but imo, if you must beg, you should do so to people who can see and understand what condition you're in and requiring help, and more often than not, that's only possible IRL, it's improbable to talk about your problems online and expect someone to help you out, when such persons isn't sure you're saying the truth, doesn't know if you're a fraudster or can't see for themselves if you're well and truly in a tight situation.

More often than not, begging here or anywhere else online is a waste of time, if the world was somewhat of an utopia society, then such help could be possible, if one has problems, they should talk to a colleague, friend, family member or someone who can truly relate and appreciate the severity of their condition, and not on BTT forum, it's ludicrous to do so.

[BIT-BENDER]

I've never seen this phenomenon again on any other site/forum. People actually beg for money and it seems more disappointing than scammy. Some of them create new threads and explain a non-sense story, that is clearly meaningless to us, and then they provide a bitcoin address to "help" them with their "life problem". But it gets worse! They create off-topic replies on some already discussed topics. Do they believe that we'll take them^[1] seriously?

Is there anyone that believes them and sends money to strangers? Is there anyone that doesn't have enough problems in his/her life and wants to give a part of his fortune to strangers? Just saying, because I've never felt that happy in my life.  

I wonder, because they haven't stopped doin' it. They keep begging money months now and I assume that they've received some satoshis, otherwise they wouldn't do it.

[1] If we assume that they are more than one person that just wants to make easy money.

I have many reasons why I will not give a stranger over the social platform any money/crypto
+ They are total strangers I don't trust them
+ Am not very sufficiently balance in finance myself
+ I believe in giving those I see, those that knows me and they are having there own issues firstly
+ If you can be online you are not in desperate dieing need of help, there people who can't even afford they luxury they have
+ Encourage it and have more and more of it all the time.

[iamsheikhadil]

Well, the world is so populated and it's getting more populated as I type, so the number of unique such type of people who comes asking for money increases as well, and hence I don't believe that they have a reason to beg as they might have in past got money, but I guess the number of first time beggars itself never stops. If they just stayed on the forum, gave it some time, they can earn some money from here but that will take effort and they be lazy like sloth sometimes, I have also seen that when a gambler wins big amount, in that state (high dopamine and happiness) he rains away small amounts even to people he knows are just scams, so it might be possible that some of the money-askers actually have had received that kind of freebies that motivates them.

[Pmalek]

PS. Did any of you read the thread of that guy today basically asking about the 2010-2011-like faucets, since he wanted a couple of bitcoin for free?

Send him this https://freebitcoins.appspot.com/ and tell him to keep trying. Eventually it will work.

People who don't know anything about Bitcoin beg for it. They think people will feel sorry for them and gift them some coins. We had a guy a while ago in the Croatian local who was trying to convince us that bitcoins are digits in Excel tables. It's incredible how far some people take it. Fancy internet money. You just double click on your Bitcoin miner.exe program on your desktop. Hit enter and get your bitcoin reward. That's how some people imagine mining. Since it's that easy, why not share it with those who beg for it.  

[NeuroticFish]

Send him this https://freebitcoins.appspot.com/ and tell him to keep trying. Eventually it will work.

LOL! Then I think that https://web.archive.org/web/20100805002250/http://freebitcoins.appspot.com/ would be even more appropriate.
It tells it has almost 500BTC to give out, the captcha looks legit, what could go wrong? 

Fancy internet money. You just double click on your Bitcoin miner.exe program on your desktop. Hit enter and get your bitcoin reward. That's how some people imagine mining. Since it's that easy, why not share it with those who beg for it.  

Yep, this describes it pretty well.

[worldofcoins]

To me they seem like under 20 y/o, I can’t think someone over that age really have the time to commit their time into begging rather than learning a skill that can pay off.

Most of the sob stories in lending section are made up lies and 99% people understand that.
Maybe that 1% really telling the true sob story but since they can type might as well get a job in data entry.

Btw is there any case in past where someone actually donated to a sob story on the forum?

[Pmalek]

Btw is there any case in past where someone actually donated to a sob story on the forum?

I am not sure if you consider it a sob story or not, but there was the case of Phinnaeus Gage from last year. He posted a thread where he wrote that he has a brain tumor and doesn't have a long time to live. He asked for donations to help his family deal with the funeral costs and everything else after his death. Many people donated. Unfortunately, it looks like his account got hacked and whoever gained access to it scammed the community. 

If you are interested you can check the following links with more info on that particular case:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=24792
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5251076.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5251105.0

[libert19]

I did that when I joined first time (this is another ac, my first account was hacked in infamous bitcointalk hack), looking back it's one of cringiest things I have done online.

[FIFA worldcup]

Is there anyone that believes them and sends money to strangers? Is there anyone that doesn't have enough problems in his/her life and wants to give a part of his fortune to strangers?

I think no body give money in this way to the strangers but still they will keep on trying and hope to get people money out of sympathy. If anyone want to give charity then there are genuine charity thread on this forum and also one can give charity in real world. I think on the forum, people write fake stories to get attention and easy money.

[Mpamaegbu]

I've never seen this phenomenon again on any other site/forum. People actually beg for money and it seems more disappointing than scammy.

Scamming is worse than begging. For all I know, begging isn't even a crime (at least from where I come, it isn't yet) but fraud and scam are criminal activities punishable by law as capital offences.

Is there anyone that believes them and sends money to strangers?

There isn't anything wrong sending total strangers money. I have done this on several occasion, at least with street beggars. That's how philanthropy works. Remember that shit happens in real life and people could need genuine help from others. It's just that some dudes have taken to scamming others and preventing the real people in need from getting the help they need.

[Pmalek]

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I agree with you and find it unusual that we have a rule on Bitcointalk that forbids begging when there are no rules (apart from community punishment in the form of flags and feedback) that disallows scamming. Some might think that (street) begging isn't allowed all over the world. And that's correct. In my country, it's against the law to beg, but people still do it. From time to time, the police prosecutes them. However, it's also not allowed to scam someone or steal his money, and the fines for the latter offenses are much more severe.

[iamsheikhadil]

We all have our own circumstances in life, so you can't blame them if they're desperate and as a last resort beg for money here in the forum hoping someone can/may help them. Though truth be told there's a thread like chance someone will give them. There are tons of way to earn money here, I think they don't have the patience to do so.

I think if someone knows about the forum, and how they can earn, or like beg money here, they also should know as a newbie they really can't ask for money straightaway. If their problems are legit, they can always ask friends/families or contact some online crowdfunding organization which can help, they just need proof of why you need funds (like for medical, they would need hospital bill proof, doctor's prescription etc) and they can quickly raise money that way in a legit way. Else, the chances of them begging here is like gambling, if someone gives them, then that's their profit, if someone doesn't, nothing they are losing.

[Kong Hey Pakboy]

The reason that I can think of when it comes to begging on this forum is because there are enabler that gives money to this people which obviously propagates the begging even more. Personally, I don't mind the begging as long the money that is going to be given is going to a good cause.

[lovesmayfamilis]

There isn't anything wrong sending total strangers money. I have done this on several occasion, at least with street beggars. That's how philanthropy works. Remember that shit happens in real life and people could need genuine help from others. It's just that some dudes have taken to scamming others and preventing the real people in need from getting the help they need.

Did you know that most of the street beggars don't need help at all? If they are not disabled, and they have arms and legs, they may well go and earn money on their own. But in fact, these are the most ordinary lazy people who suddenly decided that someone owes them something. The same applies to begging here on the forum. If they know about cryptocurrency, then they are not completely hopeless, they know how to do something themselves. Therefore, for all compassionate people who believe in tearful stories, there is one way. Help on charity sites. Then you will definitely be sure that you helped people and not scammers.

[Pmalek]

Did you know that most of the street beggars don't need help at all? If they are not disabled, and they have arms and legs, they may well go and earn money on their own.

In Germany, they call them "penner". They live of social welfare and don't want to work. The money they get from the state is mostly used to buy drugs and alcohol. Most of them can work, but they don't want to. 


I have two positive stories to share about street beggars that happened in my environment.

1. An uncle of mine lives with his wife close to my home. One day they hear a knock on their door. When they checked who it was, they saw a middle-aged woman dressed poorly who looked like a beggar. They ask her what she wants and she says that she needs money, is not begging, and is willing to work for it. Long story short, the woman has been cleaning my uncle's apartment once a week for the last 2 years. She is really good, works hard, and was even recommended to a few neighbors where she also does some cooking and cleaning.

2. An old man started coming to the gym I used to work out in to do maintenance on the gym equipment. Judging by his smell, it was evident that he lived on the streets and didn't take good care of himself. So I ask the owner who the guy was. He says the man used to be a mechanic and he came in offering to work in the gym. He promised to clean and fix the equipment and machines in exchange for food, shelter, and some money. The owner was pleased with what he could do + it saved him a lot of money not having to call professionals to maintain his gym equipment.

What I am trying to say is that the majority of beggars are lazy good-for-nothings. But some people just want to feel useful, were unlucky to have lost their jobs, and need a chance to feel like human beings again. I think it's worth keeping an eye out for people like that.   

[aaarmila_k]

People take advantage of other people for their convenience.
But I don't understand how people can fall for that trick
Helping people is okay, but abuse is what is wrong in this world