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Trying to save this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5327832.0) from derailment.


Just to make it clear: there was no drama about this and OgNasty is making up the "robbing" part. I can't believe I have to state this explicitly but he keeps repeating this shit. In December 2019 Vod had a hard drive issue (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4746201.msg53416039#msg53416039) and wanted to shut the site down. I asked ibminer if he wanted to partner with me to keep it running, he agreed, and we reached an agreement with Vod, where money/databases/code/domain changed hands. Myself and ibminer are 50:50 in control of BPIP now. Given that Vod hasn't brought up any issues about that deal should make it obvious how full of shit OgNasty is.

Not to mention that while the site gets some greatly appreciated donations, it costs a lot more to host and maintain, which I'm lucky to be able to afford thanks to ChipMixer and Foxpup, but it's utterly absurd to think that it's worth "robbing" or otherwise cheating to obtain it. It's a service to the community, not a miner that ibminer stole... oh wait, that was also OgNasty's lie (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5327832.msg56776236#msg56776236). I'm sensing a pattern here.

Local rules: this thread is about OgNasty lying, and he's welcome to stop by here and lie some more. If you want to talk about someone or something else you need to do it elsewhere.

The post that this slanderous drama queen is so upset about.  I guess the truth hurts when you're a precious little snowflake used to throwing lies at others.  suchshame...

Nope. Not the truth. You made it up. Feel free to prove it. In fact, let's make a bet, escrowed and decided by a mutually trusted reputable user. If you can prove it I'll pay, if you can't - you'll pay. So how much are you willing to put on it being "the truth"? I'm guessing zero, big man.

Yep, he kicks it off with another lie. suchmoon has pretty thick skin when it comes to this sorta thing. Certainly 1 small little comment isn't going to cause all of this. This is coming from a build up of multiple encounters and multiple lies, mudslinging, etc.

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EDIT:
OK he's admitted the first lie, I'm feeling some honesty beginning here...

Ah, damn. 7 words of truth... now the lies and baseless attacks (expected).


(disclaimer: I'm explaining this for others, OgNasty knows exactly what went on, I've explained it publicly and privately multiple times.)

Again, I've never used MoneyPot (the "advertiser" Og mentions).. EVER. The last time I attempted to gamble online was ~15 years ago (my younger days ;) ) when I tried full tilt poker.. I haven't done any online gambling since then.

Here is where my interaction with DogeDigital (owner of MoneyPot) begins in 2016:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1436577.msg15083073#msg15083073

As you see, DogeDigital, initially, wasn't involved at all... but remember, OgNasty is currently claiming I was gambling and got mad that I lost money (made up to make people think I'm bad with money, a disgruntled gambler, whatever...).

Read the forking thread. How would I have known DogeDigital was even involved in this when I got involved  ???

It came out much later in the thread. OgNasty is just making shit up about me (again..)

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TL;DR: ultimately the account in question is eventually linked back to DogeDigital, who eventually admits that he gave the account to a known scammer. That known scammer then began requesting loans under that account (as most scammers did). I felt the need to leave feedback(s) for the various accounts, including DogeDigital.

I was questioned on it by some other members, I went to OgNasty to seek another trusted members opinion, gave him the full story in PM/links/etc., he never replied. I found that odd. OgNasty had always wore a NastyFans signature. Less than 2 weeks after I sent that PM, he started advertising for MoneyPot/DogeDigital. I became unhappy and removed my NastyFans signature, questioned him on it again, re-quoting the original message. His response was that it was too much money to pass up.
 
It's the first time, and last, that I ever came across DogeDigital or MoneyPot... but somehow, according to Og, I lost money gambling with them and out of anger I'm mad at him?
It's just asinine and untrue.

Nice try, I'm not a merit source. ;)

Of course it wasn't one small comment.  It was my exclusion of her for improper usage of the trust system that started her irrational and emotionally charged attacks against me for years now.  She's a woman scorned.  LOL

Similarly, you're still mad I wore a signature for a couple weeks for an advertiser that you lost money to even though I removed it before the agreement even ended.  You and suchmoon need to both stop blaming others for your behavior.  You lost money because you suck with money and suchmoon was excluded by me for incorrect usage of the trust network as explained in the previously posted quote (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5330546.msg56780668#msg56780668).  I'm not the cause of your problems, you are.  NastyFans isn't the reason you are broke, you are.  Grow up, accept responsibility for your actions and stop looking for others to blame.

Nice to see you both took my offer of, 'stop telling lies about me and I wouldn't care you exist' to heart.  It took how many hours before you both ran to a new thread to start more drama?  You're both queens...  Make sure to merit each other to add some merit abuse to your attacks...  Straight out of Vod's playbook leading to his loss of his merit source position.

False.


Unsurprisingly also not true, here's the breakdown...


False, as explained here:


And this part is quite questionable too:


Let alone that not leaving feedback is a bizarre reason for excluding someone, I don't recall any such users that I would have deprived of positive trust if positive trust was warranted. I asked you in the other thread but you didn't clarify so I'm asking again - who are those "trusted members"?

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Not really, just trying to avoid derailing other threads. Now when you post a lie somewhere else I can just link to this thread.

And you missed this question:

So how much are you willing to put on it being "the truth"?

My post above (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5330546.msg56780891#msg56780891) has been updated.

More below. (#post_Furthermore)

LMFAO. This guy is Soooo fucked in the head, glad the lies are coming out in full force... Finally!  

After 4 fucking years of bullshit lies/feedback, I remove myself from DT1 and sudenly he removes his bullshit ratings on my profile, as he knows I'm not a "threat" to his precious DT1 status ... Fuckin piece of shit, I have to wonder what kind of "multi-millionaire" even does this for a life, I mean fuckin seriously dude? Go see a fuckin shrink ffs, you are so fucked, go outside and live or something, you fuckin basement dwelling freak of nature ... ::)

Oh wait.. Let me continue... Fuckin Trump-loving cock sucking loser piece of shit scammer lying sack of shit narcissistic cunt. ;D

LOL, don't hold back, tell us how you really feel.

Seriously though, IIRC it was OgNasty's red trust on you that removed my last doubt as to how full of shit he is.

Check again. I still have plenty of negative feedback for you. I’m sure that was just an oversight on your part and you didn’t mean to lie.

Who are you quoting when you type, “multi-millionaire” and what is your obsession with my personal finances?

The NastyShanty doesn’t have a basement.

You are still suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome?

 :D

Just for shits and giggles, you should pull a JayJuanGee in the WO thread for your 10000th post.

Thanks for clarifying that for me--I was just curious and didn't realize Vod was no longer the admin of bpip (and I didn't realize a thread like this would be kicked off, but so be it). 

As to OgNasty's comment on you stealing the site from Vod because of his mental health issues.....how would that even be possible?  Vod certainly hasn't made any comments to that effect, and I know you (suchmoon) and ibminer are on good terms with him and thus I can't see either one of you trying to take advantage of any sort of mental health issues (assuming Vod has any aside from the stroke).  Does OgNasty have any evidence that the site was "stolen" from Vod? 

And as an aside, given the contentious relationship between Vod and OgNasty, why would OgNasty even give a fuck even if it were true? 

Of course not. Try asking him for proof and watch him make more shit up to out-stink the previous shit.


I don't think he really gives a fuck, it's just an attack angle against two people he dislikes for various reasons (ibminer and myself) and a way to irritate Vod, perhaps even goading him to break his promise to leave the forum and compelling him to come back to deny the bullshit he (Og) still keeps spreading.

Vod, if you're reading this - don't :). Just let Og dig his hole, the deeper the better.

It's an obvious lie.  There's plenty of evidence of BPIP's transition of ownership being amicable and smooth.  If I remember correctly I learned about it from a post made by Vod, and I got the sense that he was relieved that someone else wanted to mange it.  I can't seem to find that post at the moment, and I don't have a lot of time to dig.  

I also recall a time when the site was down, and I feared that Vod would take it down permanently due to not being able to manage it.  I don't remember if it was something Vod said that made me think that, or me just being in a panic.  I use the site frequently, and I found it invaluable when I was running my doomed lending business.

Back to the subject of OG's lying: If nothing else, this most recent tidbit of not-so-subtle defamation should make it obvious to anyone who's paying attention; if you challenge OGNasty or bring up uncomfortable questions about his business practices, prepare to be slandered and defamed.  Even the most obvious lies such as this one will be spread and repeated.

Not sure which post you mean but Vod posted the link to ibminer's new BPIP thread and locked his thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4746201.msg53424059#msg53424059

Then he posted numerous times in the new thread offering advice etc.


The original version of that same post above said something about not wanting to waste any more time and money on it.

Vod's unedited post (https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5342/53424059.html) didn't say that, but there could have been more editing in the week before the final version of that post emerged.

Lol, I'm trying to do too many things at once.

I'm quite certain it did:

That could have been it.  I must have inferred the "relief" by the simplicity of the post, lol.  Also, the unedited version of the post does express a lack of interest in maintaining the site.  I seem to recall something more pointed, but that was nearly a year and half ago, and I don't expect anyone to trust my memory.  I don't.


Hmm, now I'm not sure.  I was following that thread at the time, and Vod's been known to edit certain posts repeatedly to use as an "update."  Maybe he used that post in that manner.

I'll always be grateful for Vod. He created an awesome tool with BPIP, and he put his trust in me to access his code, database, etc. at a time when people (probably one or two people) on this forum were screwing with his site. I honestly thought this was going to be a short-term project to create the design for him and let him go with it. Never expected to have come this far with it, but I'm glad I did.

I'm grateful for suchmoon as well, I certainly couldn't have taken this project on by myself when Vod was done with the BS.. without suchmoon, BPIP might not be here right now at all.

While I'm at it, I'm also grateful for LoyceV, TryNinja, DdmrDdmr, and others that continue to create useful tools as well. I believe this community needs these tools more now then ever...  alright, enough with the violins. ;)

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Unfortunately, trying to discuss any facts that go against a narcissistic sociopath's grandiose view of himself is equivalent to slamming your head against a brick wall. Not trying to call names here, it's literally what I have come to believe OgNasty to be.

However, I still can't let him say whatever he wants just because I'm concerned about the amount of additional lies and baseless accusations he's going to make about me, that I then have to point out/prove false/etc... it's all a fucking waste of energy... but that's what his attacks and smears are designed to do.. Wear you down. I do hope most people can see through his crap.

My attacks?  LOL.  Look at the name of this thread.  People aren't stupid...  Your little group of friends has been dropping like flies after stressing themselves literally to death trying to destroy my honest reputation with lies.  How many more users have to disappear from this forum before you guys stop giving yourselves strokes and overdoses trying to further your petty internet drama?  What are you trying to achieve?  Maybe I can help.

Yes. Look at it. What do you think it means? Did I just decide one day for no reason whatsoever to create this thread, or perhaps your false statements have something to do with it? Like this gem here:


Literally to death? Are you seriously saying that ibminer's friend died?

I mean... your lies are literally on topic here but damn that's dark even for you.

Yes, your attacks.. and I'm not laughing. I saw the name of this thread and I thought to myself "Unfortunately, yes... yes he is."

I hope not.

Who died?? ???   ^ I'll assume more lies... and in the same sentence that you call your reputation "honest". Mind boggling.

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Well thanks for offering. Although, I know this is a setup question which carries with it the attack that I am now going to be "demanding" you to do something.

I can hear you now: "You are nothing but a ____, and ___, and ___ and everyone knows it, I don't have to bow to your demands, can't you see I bought a cybertruck?.. I never got no return from that.. you must be a dodo."

.... but I'll entertain your request anyway, since you asked so nicely.
1) Retract your statement about the seats being over 125% "ROI". Then, start actually trying to achieve an ROI, instead of weaseling your way out of it.

2) Inform NastyFans on who stole the miners that were being donated to their organization, when it happened, and what was sent. *Another sign of mismanagement and/or shady activities behind-the-scenes. There is simply no legitimate reason OgNasty wouldn't have called out a thief who ran off with our miners.

3) Retract your statements about me "demanding" you remove your signature in 2016. I never once asked you to remove anything. I expressed my disappointment, that's it. And related, retract your recent new lies saying I "lost money gambling".
4) Knock off your baseless & deceptive attacks when you can't talk about the subject at hand.

No.  That is a fact.



No.  Everything was public.  If you want to go find the information, feel free to do so.  It isn't my responsibility to do your research for you.  Quite likely these events occurred prior to the creation of the trust network, which would be one of many possible explanations why there is no trail of "calling out" to your satisfaction.



No.  You are most definitely mad at me for wearing a signature that I removed for you before the end of my promised advertising period based on nothing more than your crying about lost funds.  You can call your harassment expressing your disappointment if you want, but it continues today, half a decade later.  Sure seems like an irrational holding of a grudge for me taking my responsibility as a paid advertiser seriously and exploring what happened before immediately jumping to conclusions.  No wonder you and suchshame get along so well...



I'd love to never communicate with or see your name ever again.  Stop making up lies about me and attempting to derail my threads and we'll have no interaction whatsoever.  I don't want to be associated with any part of your life, it is you that seems to need to be in mine though.

In short, grow up and fuck off already.  Problem solved.  *drops mic

When you invest BTC into a mining organization generating BTC offering BTC returns, you measure the ROI in BTC.

I've checked.

Go to the NastyFans thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.0), go up to that little search box in the upper-right corner. Type "stolen" and hit search. It's OK... it's only 1 page of results, and no mention of any miner. Tried "theft", less results. I've tried many variations.
BONUS EDIT:
Every scam accusation OgNasty has started... no miners stolen here!
https://i.imgur.com/imlXt5S.png

Here is our interaction regarding the signature:

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Blah blah blah, pick your mic back up tough guy.

Prior to the trust system you have 65 posts that mention "miner" (this would include plural "miners" as well). None of these posts mention any kind of giveaway or theft. What kind of miners did you give away? ASICs?

Here are the posts:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.msg2136456#msg2136456
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.msg2112162#msg2112162
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.msg2096280#msg2096280
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.msg2002766#msg2002766
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.msg1981362#msg1981362
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.msg1786516#msg1786516
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.msg1592361#msg1592361
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.msg1444937#msg1444937
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.msg1397786#msg1397786
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129947.msg1388475#msg1388475
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=28402.msg1386804#msg1386804
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121324.msg1307867#msg1307867
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.msg1269957#msg1269957
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=28402.msg1269949#msg1269949
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.msg1234133#msg1234133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.msg1231561#msg1231561
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.msg1228490#msg1228490
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=109470.msg1199713#msg1199713
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95929.msg1057648#msg1057648
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.msg1047690#msg1047690
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.msg1043342#msg1043342
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=89902.msg989804#msg989804
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.msg985640#msg985640
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.msg973055#msg973055
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.msg970368#msg970368
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.msg969749#msg969749
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=88047.msg968339#msg968339
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=88047.msg968199#msg968199
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=88047.msg968172#msg968172
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.msg967648#msg967648
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.msg954235#msg954235
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47490.msg878215#msg878215
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47490.msg863677#msg863677
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76238.msg846556#msg846556
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=66682.msg801441#msg801441
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68444.msg797865#msg797865
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47490.msg768690#msg768690
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47490.msg677855#msg677855
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55819.msg675533#msg675533
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=51504.msg614173#msg614173
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47490.msg608076#msg608076
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47490.msg607255#msg607255
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47490.msg606305#msg606305
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47490.msg604210#msg604210
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47490.msg589682#msg589682
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49389.msg588306#msg588306
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47490.msg585220#msg585220
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47490.msg581313#msg581313
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47490.msg577634#msg577634
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47490.msg565679#msg565679
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3878.msg532285#msg532285
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3878.msg531712#msg531712
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3878.msg483467#msg483467
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3878.msg448936#msg448936
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=36218.msg446903#msg446903
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=35260.msg438231#msg438231
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=29086.msg393610#msg393610
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=30294.msg381164#msg381164
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=29921.msg380153#msg380153
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=27911.msg352650#msg352650
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=25112.msg344932#msg344932
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=26814.msg341582#msg341582
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=22671.msg306959#msg306959
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=18229.msg251489#msg251489
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=14602.msg197182#msg197182

But why? ROI would be even higher when measured in Zimbabwean dollars! Imagine how rich you'd be if you would have given me 1 Bitcoin 5 years ago, and I give you 500% ROI today! I'll even throw in a free wheelbarrow to carry all your money.

You're on to something here. I suggested Venezuelan bolivars. See OgNasty doesn't seem to think that Bitcoin is money, but fiat apparently is. That's quite odd for someone who is an escrow and a treasurer on a Bitcoin forum. Granted he later deleted that post so maybe he realized that the hole was getting too deep. All these contortions just to deny that he returned less money to his investors than he got from them.


Considering that IRS guidance on the commodities subject didn't come out until sometime in 2014 IIRC, I asked OgNasty if his investors were made aware of his interpretation of Bitcoin being not money (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.msg56755780#msg56755780) but never got an answer. Actually this might have been what triggered this latest wave of his lies against me/ib/BPIP/etc, he tends to do that sort of thing when he paints himself into a corner.