OgNasty is a lying piece of kaka

[suchmoon]

Trying to save this thread from derailment.

Whenever I mention the truth of why you started your hate campaign against me or how you robbed Vod of his ownership stake in BPIP as a result of his mental decline, you can't even quote the text you are in such shame over your actions. 

How the F did I miss that happening?  I usually read most of the drama threads but don't recall anything about bpip's ownership being transferred to suchmoon

Just to make it clear: there was no drama about this and OgNasty is making up the "robbing" part. I can't believe I have to state this explicitly but he keeps repeating this shit. In December 2019 Vod had a hard drive issue and wanted to shut the site down. I asked ibminer if he wanted to partner with me to keep it running, he agreed, and we reached an agreement with Vod, where money/databases/code/domain changed hands. Myself and ibminer are 50:50 in control of BPIP now. Given that Vod hasn't brought up any issues about that deal should make it obvious how full of shit OgNasty is.

Not to mention that while the site gets some greatly appreciated donations, it costs a lot more to host and maintain, which I'm lucky to be able to afford thanks to ChipMixer and Foxpup, but it's utterly absurd to think that it's worth "robbing" or otherwise cheating to obtain it. It's a service to the community, not a miner that ibminer stole... oh wait, that was also OgNasty's lie. I'm sensing a pattern here.

Local rules: this thread is about OgNasty lying, and he's welcome to stop by here and lie some more. If you want to talk about someone or something else you need to do it elsewhere.

[OgNasty]

I think you are slime who supports anyone that does or says anything negative about me as some sort of revenge for excluding you early on after seeing you repeatedly leave trust ratings for users you didn’t deal with that I personally considered untrustworthy while simultaneously not leaving feedback for trusted members you did actually trust with your funds. Basically, you’ve been on a multi-year slander quest against me for taking my responsibility in DT seriously.

Nice narrative. Whatever makes it easier for you to cope. In fact, let me just admit right here that I'm the worst person on this goddamn forum, just in case that helps you be the bigger man and get rid of all the abusive red ratings you sent out over the years. Fingers crossed.

It isn't a narrative, it is a fact for anyone who cares about those...  Funny how you can't even quote your horrible behavior (I fixed the quote for you).  Whenever I mention the truth of why you started your hate campaign against me or how you robbed Vod of his ownership stake in BPIP as a result of his mental decline, you can't even quote the text you are in such shame over your actions.  I don't know about you being the worst person on this forum, but your actions and behavior towards them has definitely earned you the moniker suchshame.  

The post that this slanderous drama queen is so upset about.  I guess the truth hurts when you're a precious little snowflake used to throwing lies at others.  suchshame...

[suchmoon]

the truth

Nope. Not the truth. You made it up. Feel free to prove it. In fact, let's make a bet, escrowed and decided by a mutually trusted reputable user. If you can prove it I'll pay, if you can't - you'll pay. So how much are you willing to put on it being "the truth"? I'm guessing zero, big man.

[ibminer]

Yep, he kicks it off with another lie. suchmoon has pretty thick skin when it comes to this sorta thing. Certainly 1 small little comment isn't going to cause all of this. This is coming from a build up of multiple encounters and multiple lies, mudslinging, etc.

EDIT:

Of course it wasn't one small comment. -snip-

OK he's admitted the first lie, I'm feeling some honesty beginning here...

Ah, damn. 7 words of truth... now the lies and baseless attacks (expected).

Similarly, you're still mad I wore a signature for a couple weeks for an advertiser that you lost money to even though I removed it before the agreement even ended.

(disclaimer: I'm explaining this for others, OgNasty knows exactly what went on, I've explained it publicly and privately multiple times.)

Again, I've never used MoneyPot (the "advertiser" Og mentions).. EVER. The last time I attempted to gamble online was ~15 years ago (my younger days ) when I tried full tilt poker.. I haven't done any online gambling since then.

Here is where my interaction with DogeDigital (owner of MoneyPot) begins in 2016:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1436577.msg15083073#msg15083073

As you see, DogeDigital, initially, wasn't involved at all... but remember, OgNasty is currently claiming I was gambling and got mad that I lost money (made up to make people think I'm bad with money, a disgruntled gambler, whatever...).

Read the forking thread. How would I have known DogeDigital was even involved in this when I got involved  

It came out much later in the thread. OgNasty is just making shit up about me (again..)


TL;DR: ultimately the account in question is eventually linked back to DogeDigital, who eventually admits that he gave the account to a known scammer. That known scammer then began requesting loans under that account (as most scammers did). I felt the need to leave feedback(s) for the various accounts, including DogeDigital.

I was questioned on it by some other members, I went to OgNasty to seek another trusted members opinion, gave him the full story in PM/links/etc., he never replied. I found that odd. OgNasty had always wore a NastyFans signature. Less than 2 weeks after I sent that PM, he started advertising for MoneyPot/DogeDigital. I became unhappy and removed my NastyFans signature, questioned him on it again, re-quoting the original message. His response was that it was too much money to pass up.
 
It's the first time, and last, that I ever came across DogeDigital or MoneyPot... but somehow, according to Og, I lost money gambling with them and out of anger I'm mad at him?
It's just asinine and untrue.

Make sure to merit each other to add some merit abuse to your attacks...  Straight out of Vod's playbook leading to his loss of his merit source position.

Nice try, I'm not a merit source.

[OgNasty]

Certainly 1 small little comment isn't going to cause all of this. This is coming from a build up of multiple encounters and multiple lies, mudslinging, etc.

Of course it wasn't one small comment.  It was my exclusion of her for improper usage of the trust system that started her irrational and emotionally charged attacks against me for years now.  She's a woman scorned.  LOL

Similarly, you're still mad I wore a signature for a couple weeks for an advertiser that you lost money to even though I removed it before the agreement even ended.  You and suchmoon need to both stop blaming others for your behavior.  You lost money because you suck with money and suchmoon was excluded by me for incorrect usage of the trust network as explained in the previously posted quote.  I'm not the cause of your problems, you are.  NastyFans isn't the reason you are broke, you are.  Grow up, accept responsibility for your actions and stop looking for others to blame.

Nice to see you both took my offer of, 'stop telling lies about me and I wouldn't care you exist' to heart.  It took how many hours before you both ran to a new thread to start more drama?  You're both queens...  Make sure to merit each other to add some merit abuse to your attacks...  Straight out of Vod's playbook leading to his loss of his merit source position.

[suchmoon]

She's a woman scorned.

False.

incorrect usage of the trust network as explained in the previously posted quote.

Unsurprisingly also not true, here's the breakdown...

you repeatedly leave trust ratings for users you didn’t deal with that I personally considered untrustworthy

False, as explained here:

Not a fact, and parts of it are provably false if anyone cares to look at my sent feedback, since every positive trust rating that I sent out before you excluded me (late 2017 or early 2018 I think) was a result of a deal, so to claim that I "repeatedly [left] trust ratings for users [I] didn’t deal with that [OgNasty] personally considered untrustworthy" is incorrect, since the first part is false and the second part implies you're talking about positive ratings.

And this part is quite questionable too:

not leaving feedback for trusted members you did actually trust with your funds

Let alone that not leaving feedback is a bizarre reason for excluding someone, I don't recall any such users that I would have deprived of positive trust if positive trust was warranted. I asked you in the other thread but you didn't clarify so I'm asking again - who are those "trusted members"?

you both ran to a new thread to start more drama

Not really, just trying to avoid derailing other threads. Now when you post a lie somewhere else I can just link to this thread.

And you missed this question:

So how much are you willing to put on it being "the truth"?

[ibminer]

My post above has been updated.

More below.

[owlcatz]

LMFAO. This guy is Soooo fucked in the head, glad the lies are coming out in full force... Finally!  

After 4 fucking years of bullshit lies/feedback, I remove myself from DT1 and sudenly he removes his bullshit ratings on my profile, as he knows I'm not a "threat" to his precious DT1 status ... Fuckin piece of shit, I have to wonder what kind of "multi-millionaire" even does this for a life, I mean fuckin seriously dude? Go see a fuckin shrink ffs, you are so fucked, go outside and live or something, you fuckin basement dwelling freak of nature ...

Oh wait.. Let me continue... Fuckin Trump-loving cock sucking loser piece of shit scammer lying sack of shit narcissistic cunt.

[suchmoon]

~

LOL, don't hold back, tell us how you really feel.

Seriously though, IIRC it was OgNasty's red trust on you that removed my last doubt as to how full of shit he is.

[OgNasty]

LMFAO. This guy is Soooo fucked in the head, glad the lies are coming out in full force... Finally!  

After 4 fucking years of bullshit lies/feedback, I remove myself from DT1 and sudenly he removes his bullshit ratings on my profile, as he knows I'm not a "threat" to his precious DT1 status ... Fuckin piece of shit, I have to wonder what kind of "multi-millionaire" even does this for a life, I mean fuckin seriously dude? Go see a fuckin shrink ffs, you are so fucked, go outside and live or something, you fuckin basement dwelling freak of nature ...

Oh wait.. Let me continue... Fuckin Trump-loving cock sucking loser piece of shit scammer lying sack of shit narcissistic cunt.

Check again. I still have plenty of negative feedback for you. I’m sure that was just an oversight on your part and you didn’t mean to lie.

Who are you quoting when you type, “multi-millionaire” and what is your obsession with my personal finances?

The NastyShanty doesn’t have a basement.

You are still suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome?

 

[NotATether]

Only one more post to go before 10,000.

Just for shits and giggles, you should pull a JayJuanGee in the WO thread for your 10000th post.

[ibminer]

Furthermore, OgNasty recently announced that the minted seats for his 5oz coin holders have reached "ROI", with "over 125% return".

Looks like another series of Minted Seats has surpassed the cost to purchase in held BTC, or in other words, original purchasers of these seats have reached ROI and are sitting on profits as originally sold 5oz Minted Seats are now holding $474.11 with another $29.71 pending in BTC under the threshold amount, over a 125% return!

I animatedly disagree with this, as I began expressing here.

He seems to indicate:

I don’t like to base the success or failure of what I’m doing on whether or not a currency I have no control over goes up or down. NastyFans has exceeded every expectation I ever had for it.

But then he claims over 125% "ROI" on his shares solely based on Bitcoin's value rising.

He would have never claimed this ROI last year, or the year before, or the year before.. and hasn't done anything himself to increase his shares value since then.. so why does he think it is OK to base his coin/seat's success on Bitcoin's USD value going up?  It's a lie.. a trick.. a gimmick. What's worse, it's a way to eliminate obligations to make prior investors whole.

These shares (or "seats") were purchased with BTC, for a piece/share/% of a BTC mining organization, which promised weekly return distributions of BTC. An "ROI" should be measured in BTC.

Also, the lack of response to anything of value here is another sign of a narcissistic sociopath. It's called the "silent treatment":

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Myself and ibminer are 50:50 in control of BPIP now. Given that Vod hasn't brought up any issues about that deal should make it obvious how full of shit OgNasty is.

Thanks for clarifying that for me--I was just curious and didn't realize Vod was no longer the admin of bpip (and I didn't realize a thread like this would be kicked off, but so be it). 

As to OgNasty's comment on you stealing the site from Vod because of his mental health issues.....how would that even be possible?  Vod certainly hasn't made any comments to that effect, and I know you (suchmoon) and ibminer are on good terms with him and thus I can't see either one of you trying to take advantage of any sort of mental health issues (assuming Vod has any aside from the stroke).  Does OgNasty have any evidence that the site was "stolen" from Vod? 

And as an aside, given the contentious relationship between Vod and OgNasty, why would OgNasty even give a fuck even if it were true? 

[suchmoon]

Does OgNasty have any evidence that the site was "stolen" from Vod?

Of course not. Try asking him for proof and watch him make more shit up to out-stink the previous shit.

And as an aside, given the contentious relationship between Vod and OgNasty, why would OgNasty even give a fuck even if it were true? 

I don't think he really gives a fuck, it's just an attack angle against two people he dislikes for various reasons (ibminer and myself) and a way to irritate Vod, perhaps even goading him to break his promise to leave the forum and compelling him to come back to deny the bullshit he (Og) still keeps spreading.

Vod, if you're reading this - don't . Just let Og dig his hole, the deeper the better.

[DireWolfM14]

Does OgNasty have any evidence that the site was "stolen" from Vod?

Of course not. Try asking him for proof and watch him make more shit up to out-stink the previous shit.

It's an obvious lie.  There's plenty of evidence of BPIP's transition of ownership being amicable and smooth.  If I remember correctly I learned about it from a post made by Vod, and I got the sense that he was relieved that someone else wanted to mange it.  I can't seem to find that post at the moment, and I don't have a lot of time to dig.  

I also recall a time when the site was down, and I feared that Vod would take it down permanently due to not being able to manage it.  I don't remember if it was something Vod said that made me think that, or me just being in a panic.  I use the site frequently, and I found it invaluable when I was running my doomed lending business.

Back to the subject of OG's lying: If nothing else, this most recent tidbit of not-so-subtle defamation should make it obvious to anyone who's paying attention; if you challenge OGNasty or bring up uncomfortable questions about his business practices, prepare to be slandered and defamed.  Even the most obvious lies such as this one will be spread and repeated.

[suchmoon]

It's an obvious lie.  There's plenty of evidence of BPIP's transition of ownership being amicable and smooth.  If I remember correctly I learned about it from a post made by Vod, and I got the sense that he was relieved that someone else wanted to mange it.  I can't seem to find that post at the moment, and I don't have a lot of time to dig.

Not sure which post you mean but Vod posted the link to ibminer's new BPIP thread and locked his thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4746201.msg53424059#msg53424059

Then he posted numerous times in the new thread offering advice etc.

I also recall a time when the site was down, and I feared that Vod would take it down permanently due to not being able to manage it.  I don't remember if it was something Vod said that made me think that, or me just being in a panic.

The original version of that same post above said something about not wanting to waste any more time and money on it.

[LoyceV]

The original version of that same post above said something about not wanting to waste any more time and money on it.

Vod's unedited post didn't say that, but there could have been more editing in the week before the final version of that post emerged.

Lol, I'm trying to do too many things at once.

[suchmoon]

Vod's unedited post didn't say that, but there could have been more editing in the week before the final version of that post emerged.

I'm quite certain it did:

No sense wasting more time and (government lol) money parsing something that may disappear at any time.  :/

[DireWolfM14]

Not sure which post you mean but Vod posted the link to ibminer's new BPIP thread and locked his thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4746201.msg53424059#msg53424059

That could have been it.  I must have inferred the "relief" by the simplicity of the post, lol.  Also, the unedited version of the post does express a lack of interest in maintaining the site.  I seem to recall something more pointed, but that was nearly a year and half ago, and I don't expect anyone to trust my memory.  I don't.

there could have been more editing in the week before the final version of that post emerged.

Hmm, now I'm not sure.  I was following that thread at the time, and Vod's been known to edit certain posts repeatedly to use as an "update."  Maybe he used that post in that manner.

[ibminer]

I'll always be grateful for Vod. He created an awesome tool with BPIP, and he put his trust in me to access his code, database, etc. at a time when people (probably one or two people) on this forum were screwing with his site. I honestly thought this was going to be a short-term project to create the design for him and let him go with it. Never expected to have come this far with it, but I'm glad I did.

I'm grateful for suchmoon as well, I certainly couldn't have taken this project on by myself when Vod was done with the BS.. without suchmoon, BPIP might not be here right now at all.

While I'm at it, I'm also grateful for LoyceV, TryNinja, DdmrDdmr, and others that continue to create useful tools as well. I believe this community needs these tools more now then ever...  alright, enough with the violins.

Unfortunately, trying to discuss any facts that go against a narcissistic sociopath's grandiose view of himself is equivalent to slamming your head against a brick wall. Not trying to call names here, it's literally what I have come to believe OgNasty to be.

However, I still can't let him say whatever he wants just because I'm concerned about the amount of additional lies and baseless accusations he's going to make about me, that I then have to point out/prove false/etc... it's all a fucking waste of energy... but that's what his attacks and smears are designed to do.. Wear you down. I do hope most people can see through his crap.