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I smell another John McAfee parody with this meme coin and Elon musk chilling all other the internet, the guy will end up losing his respect and people who aren't wise at making decisions will end up hating him, John McAfee used to chill crypto projects forcing the unknown to rush and buy well Elon Musk is the John McAfee Part 2

Come on, don't compare the shitty one with Elon.

First things, John McAfee accepted any kind of promotion for ICO and some project while Elon is not accepted any kind of this he was really interested in the crypto itself by himself not as a business entity. And the plus things, how experience + milestone Elon have more achievement so far on the technology comparing the shitty John McAfee. If you know elon before the crypto like "PewDiePie" he was really like fomo.

The shitty things, all people just take it seriously all of his memes ~LOL.

Everyone has a different assessment of Elon Musk because some of the people who have benefited from Dogecoin will clearly consider Elon Musk as the basic benchmark for Dogecoin prices and even always wait for Elon Musk's tweet every day.

I never thought in my wildest dreams that I would ever compare Elon Musk with John McAfee. But that time has come now. What Elon is doing is pure manipulation.. although I don't think that he is profiting out of it. I can no longer classify his actions as "trolling". And I really don't know why he's doing this. John McAfee promoted shitcoins for monetary rewards. But why Elon is promoting them? As far as I know, he is not getting any payments.  

Elon musk is slightly better than McAfee, I accept this fact but right now Elon is taking the same steps that McAfee took in the past, Elon is brilliant I'm what he do but he know nothing about crypto, if he does he won't be chilling a coin like doge coin, a meme coin of all coins that can really do some good, I'm disappointed in him already

It is a form of entertainment to someone with his amount of money and is used to satisfy his enormous ego. Elon was only ever looking out for Elon, regardless of what his many sheep, sorry - followers, may have thought. I give him credit that he spent a lot of money on Space X and some of the stuff with Tesla (mainly related to battery production), he has done more than many billionaires who would rather buy football clubs or hundred million dollar yachts. If he was able to control himself and act with just a bit more decorum he might be more respected. However calling rescuers names, constantly hyping cryptocurrency for fun and engaging in what effectively amounts to insider trading with the Tesla stock all earned him a bad reputation with most professionals.

Chilling and shilling are different words mate, shilling is what you're trying to say. But all of your points are right and valid, there's almost no difference from what Elon is doing these times. While in the past it was McAfee's spree but it didn't go long. While for Elon, it seems more to be effective and long-lasting while he benefits not only his pocket and portfolio that he shills but also his companies are also taking advantage and benefits from what he says. People should have learned that not everything he say is they're going to take it seriously, I wonder how many of them have realized it this time when the correction happened.

I believe this guy (Elon musk) worth more than billions right now because doge has no max supply, only God knows how many doge coin this fella buy before making that crazy tweet over the internet, anyways the guy is on his way to ruining his reputation, good luck to him

NO McAfee is known not only to be making tweet and promoting token but have been engaged in many projects even put him as part of the advisory committee. Elon has not gone that far by directly promoting crypto project but rather choose one of the oldest coin (Doge). Whoever is making financial decision based on what anybody tweet is doing so at his/her own risk

You think if he promotes dogecoin that means he will scam us one day or another? I don't think so instead it only makes other believe in crypto as you can see the market was pumped once he just talked about it. He even openly said tesla invested 1.5B in BTC.

Douchebag like John Mcafee did those things but I don't think Musk will ever do it to ruin his reputation for a few million dollars if even that much.

I do respect your own words and presumptions but if we do dissect out on what are the things that had been done by McAfee back in the past compared on what Elon is been doing
now then you can tell the difference.Elon doesnt shill out any projects or ICO trying to say that this one is a good one and simply skip out and find
the next one to be shilled out where Elon had just put up his words or sentiments towards this meme coin and everything went to be popular or in hype
but i dont see anything wrong with here since everyone could express out their words.It is just happened that this guy is a popular and a billionaire
where each word would be taken off seriously or be followed.

Used to absolutely adore him and saw him as my role model until his recent interference in the crypto community. Definitely lost all the respect plus now I don't want to remotely associate myself with Tesla or any of its products. Thought the man is a genius but never knew he would lose brain cells to get some attention from the teenagers especially the sheep.

There is a big difference between Elon musk and john Mcafee and that is  the fact that McAfee got paid to be an official advisor for some cryptocurrency projects and he also actively promoted them.
This led a lot of people astray due to his reputation and that is wrong
Elon on the other hand is chilling in the same manner that a lot of people already chill their favorite coins and he isn't promoting it to anyone as a good investment... So it is very different

Elon musk and John McAfee just walking on the same street. But I am sure Elon musk is the most aggressive viral person who already announcement several times when the dogecoin, bitcoin and safepal. But very recently his tesla car suspended tweet affect bitcoin badly.

He is almost like Mcaffee although, he is much better in the eyes of the institutions because this guy helped them buy from the hodlers who panicked after he shakeoff the market thru the tweets. I personally like what he done because I profited from dogecoin, I guess it depends whether you make use of what he had done or not.

He had been appearing to make media these days even on 60minutes.

i have to agree here. McAfee received a lot of money just by endorsing several ICO projects before that ended up badly for the investors. if some of here remember, some projects here included his name on their title thread just to attract investors. whereas, with Elon, he doesn't need to accept that kind of payment, let's say from doge, because he doesn't need it. it is his own freewill why he is promoting doge. and he is also advising the public that this is a high risk investment.
now, the reputation of McAfee is not-so-good because of those failed projects under his name. elon, on the other hand, is promoting an old alt that has been in the market for years, and wanted to include in their payment system. won't compare these 2 though.

I don't see a very big difference. They are both scammers the only difference is that one of them is much richer and knows how to hide his schemes better.

But I don't think he will get away with it forever, too many people lost cash and now if Coinbase will list Dogecoin even more will lose (because he will continue his dumb Dogecoin pumping tweets) and they will get very angry on him. He will get the karma he deserves in the end.

We’ll see this on the next decision of Elon Musk, but for now its hard to say that Elon will ended up like McAfee who supported many scam projects before. I personally don’t want the hype of Elon Musk because it looks like he is manipulating the market but since he’s a reputable business man, many tend to follow him. Hopefully, he wont hype scam projects as well, and keep supporting cryptocurrency until the end.

That makes sense but elon was giving a greater impact compared with mcafee but both were only taking the opportunities in the crypto. We should never trust any entity. So many of them have their own agenda.
Elon was holding doge coin and that's why he was shilling doge coin to make it increases but no one knows whether the company already started to sell their stash or not.
Mcafee was also fooling people for money but this was in the small circle.

The problem I see with your reasoning is that if Elon wasn't Elon, but a more moderate Elon, would he ever in his damn life considered to fire rockets with passengers to Mars and start building a company for that? Would he have decided to build the car company called Tesla? Would he ever have decided to start the Boring Company, building underground tunnels to speed up traffic?
Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and not assume he is some weird idiot who doesn't deserve respect. To me he is like an artist, most of which took drugs and drank tons of alcohol and then painted their hundred million dollar paintings.

Elon wouldn't have tried all these things he is doing if he wasn't out of his mind by nature.

I want to add one point though: Calling the rescuer names is not covered by the benefit of the doubt, That is just idiotic and deserves the highest disrespect!

We know that Elon musk invested 1.5 billion in Bitcoin, right? But the question is how do we know he invested? Recently we saw the vote for Dogecoin to accept Tesla. Now he is focusing on how to improve system transaction efficiency. But I don't believe in infinity supply, even transaction are much efficient.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1392974251011895300

I remember mcafee didn't like btc at one point. And sed alt coins r better.. history is repeating itself by elon eh.

In general, Elon Musk is the most successful person in this world so whatever he tweeted over the internet will always have a good effect on these products including Dogecoin, so don't be surprised by that because some people really believe Elon Musk's every word now.

It seems like every bull run there is this one personality that would be popular, last bull run was McAfee, now we have Musk.. they are obviously manipulating the market, but they will never be guilty with that illegally. What we should do now is we just have to educate ourselves, learn from the past, that last bull run made a lot of investors regret as they end up holding useless coins, now, we should be more diligent and always DYOR.

I agree that both are manipulating the crypto market, but Elon Musk is slightly better than McAfee. Because Elon Musk never promotes scam coins,
while McAfee often promotes scam coins. Even though we are influenced by Elon Musk buying Bitcoin and Dogecoin, the opportunity to get profit is
still possible. Whereas McAfee affects us to buy scam coins, which is where we will lose the capital we have. Therefore, it is better if we make a decision
not to be too influenced by other people, we also have to be able to do research on the projects we want to buy.

There are some basic difference. McAfee actually shilled about a coin or token after getting paid while Elon do at his will (and maybe after he buys it for cheap). Jokes aside, I still have respect for Elon and what he said about bitcoin does hold truth. While the world moves towards conserving energy, bitcoin is a very energy intense network to keep running. It doesn't fit in the new world in current form.

I must assert that McAfee is a low-level businessman and his influence cannot be compared with Elon Musk.
McAfee promotes money-making projects and he promotes scam projects. It was a job that brought him income. As a result of what he did, many people lost their money, he also had to pay the price when someone tried to assassinate him in 2019.
Elon Musk only bought 2 cryptocurrencies, DOGE and Bitcoin. The problem with him manipulating Bitcoin and DOGE in his tweets is pretty obvious. Because of his tweets, the crypto market exploded in value when in February Elon took Bitcoin from $38,000 to $46,000 in a few hours with Tesla buying $1.5 billion in Bitcoin.

This market is very unstable and Musk will not be the last if market such continues. There's a lot of speculative action going on, Musk is just the part we see. It seems that we still have a long time ahead of us to have real power of cryptocurrencies  :-\

From my assessment of how the market and Elon musk has been trolling, I feel Elon musk is doing all this purely for entertainment. I'm certain that he's not getting paid for this manipulations. The truth is that most people would end up getting hurt from the market this period and its going to be worse than the last bull run of 2017.

Use his name to split from those many shitcoins and accept payments for chilling about new project (McAfee)

While just like what you have said about Musk which he's playing with Doge and he's really hitting on it and

making huge market movements.

I don't think Elon Musk can be compared to John McAfee. They are completely different people and they also performed different actions in relation to cryptocurrency. John McAfee earned in dishonest ways on cryptocurrency. In relation to Elon Musk, one cannot say that he uses dishonest methods, and also that he commits his actions for the purpose of earning money. Elon Musk does not even directly advertise cryptocurrency and does not encourage anyone to buy Bitcoin or Doge. He also has the right to decide whether or not to accept bitcoins as payment for Tesla cars, and we cannot blame him for that.

I dislike what Elon is currently doing, but I guess he'll soon realize that this isn't the way to go. If he wants to help people, he will soon refrain from shilling doge and just focus on his companies' success, especially Tesla now that competition is starting to get beefed up. His ego is being stroked by a lot of his followers and he's enjoying every single bit of it, and soon he'll get tired of what he's doing and drop the crypto gig up. McAfee is a complete degenerate that shills for the money and money alone. Never did any projects that somehow benefits a lot of people, but Elon got that covered at the least.

At this point it's clear that all this character assassination of bitcoin is to get people moving away from the number 1 coin to the meme coin,dogecoin.

It's bad publicity but you know what they say, any sort of publicity good or bad counts for good publicity, I wounder how much his invested in Doge.

Elon playing the villain and Super Hero at the same time,his bad!

I have not fully lived the Macfee experience but it seems that he ended up in oblivion and had problems with the law ... Musk will be smarter and even if we will remember 2021 as the year of meme madness launched by Musk, also of him we will forget.

Perfect saying about such hypocrites. in the other news rich are now filling their bags after another round of heavy dump by loose hands. the markets has alwyas been under manipulation. it is left for any one who understands that space to think well before engaging and understands the dynamics of how the crypto market functions. it is always about the suvivial of the fittest.

Mcafee is a lot worse that you can't even compare him to the former.
He talks crap a lot and does even like challenges before where he can't even do.
Elon is talking at least about something, but Mcafee talks a lot crap.

And Elon is just one of those whales that's gulping BTC and dogecoin. You wouldn't really mind what he is doing because he helped the crypto industry recognized by a regular person on the internet. What others are not letting it slide is that Elon talks about mining being wasteful of energy resources.  And then inserts that he is working with dogecoin developers, was there even a dogecoin developer?

From John McAfee to Elon Musk, both influencers are source of entertainment and source of market growth in the crypto community. It's Elon Musk time and we have already experienced what he can do with the market, a master manipulator! Cryptocurrency is supposed to be leaderless, but here's the truth. Heavily we are rely on the influencers, speak for certain coins and then boom. As always people are struggling in term of choices.

I honestly agree with you, but here Elon is a little better than McAfee, Elon is clearly more crypto-supportive than McAfee, but they are both inconsistent. and when compared to McAfee, elon is more popular and more widely known than McAfee

When it comes to tweeting about crypto, they are similar. McAfee had troubles with his tweets and the people who he's involved with for various projects and now is in the run. While Elon is not directly involved in any centralized project and has been tweeting about decentralized community projects like Bitcoin, Ethereum and Dogecoin only.

Why do you compare the Billionaire and second richest person on the planet to John McAffee they are not equal maybe Elon Musk is annoying sometimes due to his crypto-related tweets but Elon Musk doesn't need the crypto money to shill any ICO projects unlike McAfee, Elon has a number of technologically advanced companies such as Tesla, SpaceX, Neurolink, the Boring company, etc. and technically Elon doesn't need crypto to survive that's why they are not the same. I admit I don't like some of Elon Musk's pronouncements and tweets about crypto but it doesn't mean that he lost my respect I still admired Elon as a tech-savvy entrepreneur.

Elon Musk is more influential than Mcafee but I would say that he's just a business-minded person but doesn't have the same motive as Mcafee. He's literally rich and he's not seeking too much attention but he's trying to play by manipulating the market through his influence. He's using his money and influence to make a huge name and he has proven us a lot through his businesses, unlike Mcafee that couldn't prove us anything.

mcafee was fooling so many people and grab their money. Elon has his own internal agenda but it's not so bad as mcafee. that's why mcafee already jailed.
I think that there should be the differences between elon and mcafee. Elon is very innovative even sometime his words is very contradicted but at least he never wants to fool the little shrimp. he was having a very good vision for the future.
Mcafee is just like a scammer.

There is a theory that Elon Musk bought Dogecoin in 2019 for a decent amount of money, I don’t know how much this is true, but here is his wallet https://dogechain.info/address/DH5yaieqoZN36fDVciNyRueRGvGLR3mr7L
If you think so, then such a scenario is possible.

The only difference between Mcafee and Elon is the fact that one of them is super rich and the other one is rich, plus one of them is super famous and other one is... only known by certain people who are interested in the market he is in. So long story short they have no difference in character, they are basically the same person, I wouldn't be able to pin point any difference in character if I had a gun pointed at my head, it is impossible to make that kind of difference between the two.

However Tesla is one of the biggest companies in the entire world versus Mcafee is just a software company that didn't grow bigger than what it could be. Plus Elon gets all the attention because mainstream media shows him like the savior of the world whereas Mcafee is portrayed as a delirious idiot or even not portrayed at all as well in the end.

There is a major difference between Elon Musk and McAfee, Elon Musk is not a scammer while McAfee is a scammer who promotes scam coins and lure people into investing in those scams and i can pin point many scam projects McAfee promoted and hence you cannot compare them in that aspect.
What Elon Musk is doing is not that great either with his tweets but he never scammed anyone.

There is really no much difference between how Elon musk is pumping and shilling doge coin presently and how John McAfee was shilling a lot of altcoins back in 2018. Following these people and there tweet about cryptocurrency will only make you lose money (a lot of it).

Elon Musk has nothing to blame, except for the frivolous behavior on Twitter (what has already been said in this thread).

But I know for sure that John is a deceiver ... if only for the reason that a few years ago a project within the framework of an advisory agreement paid John a lot of money, and after a while he demanded to double the fee, seeing that the ICO results exceeded all expectations. He substantiated his demand by the fact that his assistant had allegedly stolen these funds, although he never provided any convincing evidence. There are many other incidents in which his name appears, but for me personally, this incident is enough to understand who is who, (Roger Ver, by the way, is the same two-faced slippery shit like McAfee.).

That's a bold statement that we will forget about Musk anytime soon. Do you think people will forget about Steve Jobs or Bill Gates? They are all different, in fact very different from McAfee. Even if you take Musk and his madness, McAfee isn't that category. McAfee is insane and out of control in so many situations. So many rumors about him to be a high profile criminal, even murderer stands in the room.

There is a very distinctive and important difference between McAfee and Elon musk.
Elon must for all his antics on twitter hasn't actually done anything illegal or wrong, all he does is make occasional tweets about a crypto he obviously likes, but this isn't a form of paid promotion of any sorts.
McAfee is very different in that regard, this man has actively promoted projects that turn out to be extremely poor and a lot of people end up losing millions of dollars in cryptos
You should blame yourself if you take Elon's tweets too serious and use it as a financial advice because it was never meant to be one.

If you follow late on their tweets you’ll surely lose money but if you’re a risky taker and you always follow them, making profit is possible. Anyway, Elon slowly ending up like McAfee for shilling to much about DOGE and creating FUD at the same time the only difference is that, Elon is not hyping a fake project or a scam project, not until today, I’m not sure in the future though.

May be Elon Musk influenced many to invest in the cryptocurrency market and there were many articles about how people followed his tweets and invested in Doge and was able to make a big fortune and you will see those users stay back and look for more opportunities to make healthy profit in a short period of time. Everything is good in a bull market, we will see what happened when the market turns red, no one will be able to influence anything and that is when the real test starts .

So far Elon Musk is doing a hype on DOGE only compared to Mcafee who has hyped and promote dubious ICO projects, for money, I don't think Elon Musk will promote dubious projects for the sake of money, he is one of the richest men in the world, he is more on taking care of his reputation than earning more money, earning money is easier for him.

When it comes to techy Elon Musk have a higher grade compares to John McAfee but none of these guys knows how to build blockchain projects from scratch, if Elon decide to release a new coin today many will still invest just because it's Elon Musk but not me

They both just funny crypo guys without real take, just memes. Like dogecoin

How funny. What kind of something Elon Musk talked about? Energy efficient? It's just a hint to cause fomo. I agree McAfee is worse than Musk but it's not that much. Both manipulate the market and take advantages from it. I see no difference between Elon Musk and McAfee. They're both businessmen and always seek ways to earn profit. Defending Elon Musk based on what he's done with Tesla or SpaceX is not fair with McAfee.

John McAfee got money for every coin/token he advertised, and he talked about coins he owned. He was in it for the money. Elon is too autistic to care about the money, he is just tweeting what he wants. Pump Effect on doge will be same though, more he tweets about it. Less value those tweets will have. For now people have bots making market orders for doge every time he tweets, so yeah, there are pumps every time. Eventually that stops working.

What mcafee worst is that he probably receives some kind of incentive by making promotion or advertisement using his account that has many followers, basically he's just a shill for altcoins that want to pay him.
but elon is doing something silently and we don't know for sure what he's actually doing, even we have no idea what he's doing with all the shill related to doge, but i do agree mcafee blatant shill just a big red flag for many people tbh.

he think he controls the market and i think the crypto community give him so much audience. the market has been there before elon came on board. so he should trade word carefully. Macfee is cooling off in a prison. it might be Elon next with his all his money. although this was an opportunity for young investors to get into the market. the opportunity was there for taken. it may not happen again.

It's to early to tell so far many are still making money with Elon Musk's hype of Doge, if Elon next hype are all abut new coins which looks like what McAfee used to promote, then he is in big trouble and with two big names coming here to hype, people are going to lose to personalities
 and just go for projects with proven usage and potential, Musk should watch all his moves, he should learn from McAfee and avoid his mistake.

You're 100 right in your observation. Both Elon Musk and John McAfee  used their popularity to get benefit from the people. If they would have care about the community, people would have remember them in good words. People hate John McAfee and now showing same reactions to Elon Musk.

I don't know whether it is the right thing to compare Elon Musk to McAfee. But I'm sure about one thing that one of Elon Musk's goals was definitely manipulating. I think the same for Dogecoin and the action Tesla has taken about Bitcoin mining also.

I also think that what Elon Musk has done so far in support of crypto is simply to manipulate prices. Because rich man like Elon Musk are also
interested in making profit from cryptocurrency. After several months of giving positive statements regarding crypto, now suddenly has
a negative statement. The difference in attitude is clear that Elon Musk wants a market dump, and he can buy crypto at a low price.

No one can know exactly what are his intentions when at one side he is saying bitcoin to be bad for the environment but same time asking developers to improve the doge coin to be more efficient. If the intent is to make doge coin more valuable then i don't think this could be healthy for the overall crypto market.

A few weeks ago, I would have balked at any comparison made between Elon and McAfee. But now I realize that Elon Musk is just another wolf in sheep's clothing. He is just like any other billionaire, who want to manipulate the market and make money for himself. Sometimes people get blinded when they get too much power and influence. Elon is currently going through this stage. He will realize his mistake when his Dogecoin bubble bursts. But after this episode, I don't think that anyone will take Elon seriously in the cryptocurrency sector anymore. He has lost all the respect he had.

Elon is a wise investor he knows what he is doing, he knows what McAfee has done in the past and how he lost his reputation, I'm sure he will make sure that he will not become another McAfee, and he will be the best influencer we had, but so far he is not because of the decision of his company not to use Bitcoin anymore, it's a big betrayal, he should at least support Bitcoin.

True, I don't hate Elon and I am glad he brings a new audience to cryptocurrency.  Even in a short span of time, the contribution he made on cryptocurrency is worth noting since he made a meme coin on what it is right now, a joke with high value.  While McAfee is about personal gains by accepting payment to hype shit coins.

It's true that the reality is like that we can't deny it and that's exactly what Elon Musk wants,
and in the future Elon Musk will certainly do something more related to crypto.
let's just follow the progress and we'll see what happens next

The more he opens his mouth nowadays, the more like he might become like that guy and we all know what happened to those who believe in John McAfee's propaganda about some certain coin. People should take heed when they listen to some speech by those big-shot men, if they don't and they will just blindly follow what these guys said, they might as well fell into their trap cause they're only saying those things to manipulate them and at the end of the day those men are the only one who will gain big. Everyone needs to be careful, we don't need to follow those guys cause we are able to make our own research on some projects.

It's too early to tell, we still don't know what are his plans and what is the direction he is heading, is he going to stay for long, is he going to launch his own coin, will he do a collaboration or will he become an influencer and promote crowdfunding, we will know that soon it's not yet a year and he is not telling us what are all his plans.

It is true that all of us can only guess what Elon Musk really intended to do this, but it's not a good thing if the crypto market movement depends
on Elon Musk. Hopefully there will be more people who realize not to be influenced by what Elon Musk did. Because Elon Musk is only a rich person
who uses his influence to be able to manipulate prices for personal gain. I actually hope Elon Musk stops influencing the crypto market with the hype
it creates, if like this continues the development of crypto is increasingly unhealthy.

I think  Elon Musk is already supported crypto market to keep growth by his statement on twitter. A million of his follower who new people on crypto followed him in to crypto so that a lot of new money come in to crypto market. This is first time I have seen the total market cap reached more than $2 trillion and Elon Musk did it. And a lot of international media published his statement about crypto so more people in the world know and understand what is crypto and the advantages of it.

he has done much for himself and it's not for the world. elon was creating tesla and who will be getting the profit from selling the electric car? it should be him. The energy consumption of tesla is also high enough at this moment. The only thing that makes it different if elon was not blatantly scamming others like scammer mcafee.
I don't see the different between both other than it.

Elon musk is better than John McAfee, look at this time every altcoin related to elon musk is a good choice coin that has proven strong in the market, whereas John McAfee is mostly shitcoin that is only pumped initially after that will turn to ashes.
both of them are both involved in crypto but the quality is much different.

in the crypto market, I think something like that is commonplace. We can see how people who have large followers on social media use their popularity to influence the market.
very easily those with an interest in manipulating the market with a few tricks. Elon provokes the adoption of crypto assets. then he could just leave her to benefit himself.

I think in terms of popularity Elon Musk is much ahead to Mcafee in my own assessment. Though, both are manipulator experts we all know that anyway, isn't that right? But in fairness, when it comes to negative feedback McAfee was winning on this compared to Elon Musk ;D
But in the end they are both powers to influence the community in the twitter media.

Elon Musk is way more popular, he is one of the richest in the world, number two in this ranking https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/012715/5-richest-people-world.asp.

Everyone knows him, that's why his impact is bigger than McAfee, but we know it's just all about the hype and it seems hype is gone now that he drop bitcoin on his Tesla announcement.

I remember something similar happened before and I cannot imagine what Elon is thinking right now. I mean we do have here all the criticisms we can put out at him, and he seems unaffected by it. He sees that he has something with him that even no one in this world could possibly have, that is why he has this massive balls to do what he has to do in the world of cryptocurrency. Do you know what he has that you don't have that is why he does not listen to criticisms from you? Just a net worth of almost $150,000,000,000 U.S. Why would he listen to you mere mortals at the bottom of the capitalist chain?

This thing called endorsement, it helps a lot most especially the one who shared about it because of the followers they have. It is one way to make noise in social media and makes people come up with curiosity which can lead them to check or try on it. Through that it can help it to be known and start to love it.

Elon Musk and McAfee can be said to be doing the same thing, but Elon Musk does not openly promote scam projects like McAfee did, because we have all seen how many scam projects McAfee promoted for a lot of money, and Elon Musk does not do this as he knows that for this he can be punished very harshly by the SEC and therefore I do not think that it is possible to compare these two people, and indeed we should not invest in what all sorts of famous personalities advise you.

He is more popular that is why he can affect the market and could destroy more lives when some users who took their stimulus funds to crypto expecting profit and then lose. They turned their cash to BTC so they can spend online and order products so instead of having funds, he made them poorer. 
McAfee took advantage of the investors who can afford to invest.

I agree. The only thing different is that Elon has more influence than McAfee because he is the top billionaire. And he also loves to tweet very often and drive the world crazy.

I still appreciate what he did to the cryptoworld. Even though some of his previous tweets harm bitcoin, it still has less effect than his positive tweets

they are the same, it's a lesson for me to be really careful with elite people trying to pump bitcoin. Elon Musk is rightly untrustworthy since trying to do FUD on his tweets. He's one of doge's associates. I hope the market recovers soon and Elon Musk just goes with bitcoin development well doesn't bring FOMO to people.

Using the popularity of social media to pump up bitcoin is an easy thing for someone like Elon Musk, bitcoin is just him coming in for a while and they just walk out. But I believe cryptocurrency continues to grow there or no elite people.

Some elite people love panic-prone communities, they are very selfish, It's easy for us to be interested because they are rich people, have a lot of followers in the media, big companies. The positive side remains, but this is the second time after Jhon Mcafee that it has been used as an experience for the future so as not to easily follow the train of elite people in cryptocurrency.

The difference in popularity between Elon Musk and John McAfee is obvious if you compare the number of followers on social networks. So the number of subscribers at @elonmusk - 55 million, and at @officialmcafe - 1 million. Therefore, any Musk tweet has an effect 50 times greater than that of McAfee.

It's a pity that one of the elite in person of Elon Musk is using his wealth to manipulate the price of Bitcoin to the detriment of teeming small hodlers, he knows the impact of his tweets on the price of DOGE and he continue to do thus creating FUDs invariably having a massive dump in the price. McAfee is more like a speculator always predicting unrealistic prices of Bitcoin at every internals it got to a stage bitcoin enthusiasts started ignoring his predictions

But I could not blame Elon for that as he is not really forcing or directly inviting people to invest, people just follow him, and unfortunately, they follow him blindly and that might made them regret it. In crypto investing or trading, it's the foolish money that makes the smart investors richer, that's the reality.

When Elon Musk would start to shill shitcoins in hus twitter, and projects (mostly) scam would start to write that “Elon Musk support us”, only then there would be no difference between them.
Elon firstly pumped crypto market, now everyone blame him for a start of a panic sale. He made everyone earn first! Then there was a drop. Did John McAfee did the same?

Comparing Elon and McCafe is not right even McCafe was associated with many Altcoins projects but Elon is not but I remember when McCafe tweet about any coin investors start buying making good money but soon his magic diminish and like this Elon also doing tweets about Btc and Doge many of the investors start buying by following him, On the other hand, Elon has a good market reputation I hope he will not ruin his image as McCafe did it.

to me, Elon is the reincarnation of John McAfee
the trick is almost the same, first supporting Bitcoin then rejecting it

Now Twitter is full of attacks on Elon Musk
What hasn't been done yet Elon Musk is just creating his own crypto project, as McAfee did.

in the future, I don't believe in Elon's words anymore.

Lol. What were his words that you believed so much? Like dogecoin is cool? But he still thinks like that. Tesla still has their investment in Bitcoin.

I guess you dont like his words about bitcoin suspension as a payment for tesla? But did you really intended to buy tesla with btc? Do you think many has bought their cars paying in bitcoin?

You know, there is company Airbaltic, that said they accept bitcoin as a payment for flight ticket years ago. In reality, it is impossible to pay in Bitcoin for ticket and no one blames that company, nor ignores it. Elon is not much different from them.

I can bet my d**k that Elon musk has made hundreds of millions of dollars through dogecoin as well as bitcoin, don't forget he's a business man, world richest for that matter, do you really think the world's richest man would have time to just sit in front of a computer and shill crypto coins that he aren't benefiting from,? Do you really think he will shill coins just for fun?? Unlikely if you ask me, this is a multi-billionaire we talking about, a Billionaire will do everything in he's power to remain a Billionaire, the world richest man will do everything in his power to remain the world's richest, and I don't think aside his family and loved ones, he will have time for anything that won't put money in his pocket.
Never allow anyone to deceive you into thinking Elon is shilling dogecoin or any other for fun, he's making alot of money from it, just you can't see or notice, all the manipulation he does is for he's own benefit.

There is a difference between Musk and McAfee, I believe that Musk is more talented than McAfee and he has brings many changes and achievements to the people of the world, I will take things slow with him to actually see what he is up to before judging him or comparing him with McAfee, but a business man will always act like one so if people gets crushed under coins like doge or shiba it's their own fault not Musk's

I don't think the same. I prefer Elon Musk than McAfee. because the Elon Musk effect more influences new people to use crypto so that the price of crypto has a higher value as it is now.

All that Elon is doing lately is just pure business, that’s the intention to pull down the market using his influence that trigger sell-off’s. He is taking advantage of his influence which made him more dangerous entering in the crypto space, but I believe everything that he does has consequences it’s either he will lose respect from people or crypto fans will boycott Tesla products. 

Elon Musk is still far off from becoming the second John McAfee, but with the way he has been manipulating the crypto market with his tweets on Twitter so many people have began to dislike him, I know everyone can't like him, but what he's doing is really bad, am beginning to dislike him, toying with the emotions of thousands of people isn't good, if he doesn't stop anytime soon he will turn most of his fans to his hateers.

I also think the same as you, he (Elon Musk) wants to manipulate and play the state of the Crypto market with the influence of his tweets. at this time people were restless and started cursing elon.

if elon doesn't stop doing things like this, he will really be hated and will lose respect from his fans and he will become the new McAfee. that's what I think at the moment.

My opinion, we need more people like Elon Musk to make keep crypto market growing. Elon Musk already promoted crypto market to the more people in the world. He is already trigger the market to become bull season so that alot of crypto rally multiple times. Elon Musk already helped alot many people to change their financial much better.

Many tend to follow him that's why we have too many people who can't make decisions for themselves in this world today,this man even bad mouthed BTC mining because of energy required to mine, the fact is no single crypto project can be perfect, every crypto projects can't be on same lane, for this I hate where Musk is going and I hope people will start making decisions themselves

Not really, one elon musk is enough and the problem about person like elon musk is that he has too much influence on the market and could manipulate it just by making some tweet, it's undeniable that elon help to hype up the bull market but even without him the whole crypto market still got invested by institutional investors which means it's still gonna be a bullrun nonetheless and I personally do not agree with your statement that he has helped a lot of people change their financial much better, remember doge market is a zero sum game where the winner take money from the loser, it's just transfer of wealth.

Sometimes i was thinking that they are twins? because they almost have the same attitude and same greed and stupid person  ;D

While McAfee had already lose His popularity when he did not Eat his private part last year, now Elon Musk is making His own path to become popular as McAfee in this market.

Actually they both lose their respect from people now and sooner will be forgotten and become just a joking memes .

No way you can compare Musk with McAfee. There is nothing they have in common if you ask me. McAfee is a failed personality. He failed on almost all levels. How could you say that about Elon Musk? Look at the list of criminal charges or suspicions against McAfee. McAfee is brutal and insane, I wouldn't say that about Musk.

It is true that the reality is that no cryptocurrency project is perfect,
I think people will also realize that what Elon Musk is doing is not good for the cryptocurrency ecosystem,
We'll see what will happen in the future and just follow the developments

I also think that what Elon Musk has done so far in support of crypto is simply to manipulate prices. Because rich man like Elon Musk are also
interested in making profit from cryptocurrency. After several months of giving positive statements regarding crypto, now suddenly has
a negative statement. The difference in attitude is clear that Elon Musk wants a market dump, and he can buy crypto at a low price.

All of us gripe about what Elon Musk has done, gripe about this and gripe about that. But here is the thing, while we are wasting our precious time discussing about his manipulations, while we talk about him, be angry at him, and talk shit at him manipulating the market, he is simply swimming in his billions, oblivious to your opinion. Billionaires tend to be distant to plebes whether its Bill Gates or Warren Buffett or even George Soros. He doesn't care about you, so I don't think you should be wasting your time on him as well.

I still remember when john mc affee shill bitcoin, the only different here. Elon musk spreading fud about bitcoin while mc affee deffend bitcoin when jamie dimon says bitcoin is scam and price suddenly going from $6k to $3k in mid of 2017.

John mc affee better then elon in term of shilling bitcoin.

Both Elon Musk and McAfee are not good for the community when they spread negative news and rumors about bitcoin. However, there are many new people who come to the crypto space due to these people but they will quit quickly seeing these negative tweets as mostly newbies are the ones who have weak hands.

The thing is that I don’t even know why Elon is doing all these things he’s doing. I used to say it at first when all these things started and he was tweeting about cryptocurrency, I said it that it is very bad when one man can manipulate the market, and that’s what is happening now. And the most annoying part is that the media kept helping him by carrying every of his tweets and making sure that everyone sees and that kind of made him have more Influence on the market. Well, now it’s over.

Unless some stupid people are still going to trust him if he eventually comes back and starts pretending to be a supporter again. But right now I am not going to compare him to McAfee, they are both different in some ways, the only thing is that they have both found ways to get everyone so pissed off.

After everything, we will believe another prediction from a new person. Why? Because we have a fear of losing something. But the main rule is " do invest in what you can afford to lose. Elon Musk is already losing his respect from so many people. We can see that Dogecoin won't accept buying Tesla, but he collected votes for Doge. That's how Elon musk scammed our new investors.

Well, even if he loses respect from the cryptocurrency community, he still has legions of supporters from all walks of life. I mean he is being dubbed "The Edison of our Time". Because of his investions and also the improvements he created in rockets, in commercial space flight, in the realm of electric cars, Tesla and the Boring company, I mean he has very big plans of his own and people love him for it. He maybe manipulating the crypto markets but he is doing it to get the money he needed to send people to Mars. He thinks of space mining very much and his plans to mine the asteroids and Mars is not far fetched if Elon is very passionate with his goals.

I can name even two differences: Musk isn't in the prison and he didn't launch any crypto.

Yes, but even so both have almost the same effect on the community. The point is, all of you who want to invest, still do DYOR and you have to know that investing is definitely risky. regardless of whether Musk or McAfee are the same

Reading the news this week. I just can't hold back tears from laughter, one person twirls the opinion of a whole group of people with huge fortunes, and most importantly, with his statements, the market responds with trust. How it works, I don't understand. Probably I will understand only after the opening of the Martian base)

In general terms, Elon Musk has done more for the crypto world than anyone else. But within the framework of the coin value game, buying back and selling it for a profit, it is the same manipulator that draws investors' money from the exchange industry into its carmen.

It’s very strange that you don’t see the difference. McAfee is a crypto enthusiast and ardent supporter of cryptocurrencies, while Elon Musk is a player in a completely different field.
McAfee shouts that cryptocurrency will rule the world, Musk only gives incomprehensible tweets that excite the public to buy or sell, while he does not call for anything.

I fail to understand how McAfee is a real crypto enthusiast and be different from Elon Musk on the ways they joined, made noise and get own benefits from their tweets.

Elon Musk is richer, and has bigger follower community then his tweets have more impacts on the crypto market. The last two years has a bigger crypto market than 4 years ago. Two guys joined crypto market in different phases of market growth.

What has Elon done for cryptocurrency? If you say this about Satoshi Nakamoto, Vitalik Buterin I will agree with you, but Elon I disagree

The attraction from Elon may be decreasing, as Elon's recent tweets have not brought about many drastic changes. But I'm really thinking why compare Elon to a McAfee asshole, to me Elon brings humor in this market :)

I was thinking about this similarity too. But there is a difference. Mcafee had lost everything and tried to come back to life by investing in cryptocurrencies. Musk, on the other hand, is already well off, he just got richer :)
Both are huge speculators. They made a lot of money to people who invested at the right time

Indeed Elon Musk is the new McAfee however their difference is Elon Musk is doing this shilling and dumping for his own sake and to get a good amount of profit. In addition, I think Elon is like a child whose looking for so much attention from the people around him.

Humor and "Tears" I suppose, Musk was succesfully trolling us and tons of people was crying coz their investment get rekt while basically some of people especially that already involved on crypto before Elon involving on crypto was laughing and crying too, Well both of them More or less it's same except that Mcafee promotes more new projects where Musk only focuses on major cryptos such as Bitcoin & Doge (For now (?)), Well the positive impact at least gives a new atmosphere to the crypto market lately.

There is definately a difference as clear as Ice between Elon Musk and John McAfee! Elon is well respected enterpreneur pioneering electric car and other clean energy based tech product! McAfee was only known for anti-virus software, attacking US goverment and other illegal stuff! As for shilling cryptocurrency, both were guilty and this act could damage Eln's reputation as it did for McAfee!

I understand the situation right now and I can relate to my Investment plan, it's really affected my portfolio to an extent that my I have issue in taking decision to sell or keep holding, to be honest, these people are sets of manipulators that's doing things for their own good as long they keep profiting.
It's good to know your right and do they needful by investing in the right and good potential coins, following Elon tweet is disastrous and had nothing to do with investment plan especially when you are a long term investor.

I see a big difference between the two. Not in terms of crypto, they are similar there, although Elon Musk has never let himself be paid for a coin project because he doesn't need to. There are several proofs that McAffee will support anything for a certain amount of money, no matter how bad or dubious a project is. Also McAffee has a criminal record and was wanted by the FBI worldwide. In my opinion, that alone sets him apart from Elon Musk.

To be sincere, there is little to no difference between the two of them, and of course many people who have been in the crypto space for long knew how McAfee ended up, he lost his reputation in the sight of people. Well, going down memory lane, and by comparison both have almost same thing in common, just that Musk is more of into meme coins which he pumps once in a while.
Now at this juncture, people needs to be careful and also mindful of what they listen to, how the follow up on his tweets; it is understandable that hype plays a role, but it is also wise to be careful in order not to get caught up. Elon musk will soon lose his importance in the sight of people so far crypto is concerned, and as soon as people stops giving him unnecessary attention then all these influential tweets will come to an end.

Friends, I come from the future!
Elon Musk already has an enemy even to the hacker group Anonymous!
Tesla shares are still in the red and he is now the most disowned in the Crypto world.
That's right, every action has its consequences.

Instant Karma?

I would say that Musk is a guy who didn't sell his company and Mcafee did, that seems like the only difference. Elon could have sold tesla or spacex years ago, they are very valuable companies right now but 10 years ago they were not and they could have been sold, building a car company from scratch is not something anyone can do, it is really really really expensive and the costs are just non stop, hell Tesla is STILL not making any profit and they are one of the biggest companies in the world, think about how hard it is to survive in that sector. So, he could have sold his company and lived a very wealthy life with his weird character.

Mcafee did exactly that, dude just sold his company, went to belize, do all kinds of drugs and at one point he was dating an "underage" person, she wasn't underage in belize but it would be in most other nations, dude is just screwed up beyond saving.

I see McAfee was never a good example due to his criminal record that makes him more bad compared to Elon Musk. But the only thing that connects them is their greed when it comes to money. Elon Musk might just smarter in his own way but their hidden motive is definitely the same.

Well, that's how their ways of making profits in crypto by taking advantage of the people. But i believe, bad things will never leave good remarks in the end. Karma is coming.

Elon. Musk is the number one richest place, but it isn't different than McAfee. Suppose what could be the benefits from the Dogecoin. In this situation he is not, especially in this cryptocurrency, he isn't trustworthy. Some believe he is a billionaire, so they don't need to profit from Dogecoin. We won't compromise to buy any altcoins, those transactions increased by a famous person's tweets.

I am not a very harsh person but after many years of learning about this market, Elon gives me a lot of emotions in the market. To me, he is leading the market in a good direction, if it wasn't for Elon, I don't think the effect this market will have, and I also see Elon as an early warning to him this market :)

what does Elon do for crypto besides buying bitcoins and manipulating the market? is it worth mentioning that it has done a lot for crypto development?
if this is CZ or vitalik or understand it, they are developers who contribute to the crypto market for real. but elon or mcafee are two sneaky market manipulators and i see they are not that different. what makes the difference is the money they have.

Right some people invest to see the Elon mask tweet when the price was .70$ they are all off now in loss.so before invest of any sector we have think fast what is the future of the token then we can invest. I think two big investors fallow different strategy so we have to different strategy.

Elon musk and john McAfee are very different in his they affect and influence the cryptocurrency market. McAfee was part of the big names to adopt and actively promote cryptocurrencies and he has also represented a lot of cryptocurrency projects officially. Some of this projects have done well while others have failed. McAfee never tried to manipulate the market through FOMO and shilling
Elon Musk on the other hand while he has always shown his likeness for dogecoin, he hasn't ever represented the coin or any other crypto in an official capacity and has always tried to manipulate the market with his influence.
The market needs more McAfees' and fewer musks