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Bitcointalk has seen many of its old-timers leave and never return to the forum again. There are many reasons why people make such decisions. Still, dissatisfaction with something that happened on the site could be one reason to give up on it.

Forums as mediums for discussions aren’t as popular among the new generations any more. Social media and platforms like Discord or Telegram have significant communities nowadays. But forums still have their charms. And Bitcointalk will always have historical relevance as the place where it all begun.

A study conducted in 2019 (https://www.business2community.com/social-media/study-shows-americans-prefer-online-forums-over-mainstream-social-media-02167545) shows Americans prefer to use discussion forums in search of reliable information. 88% of all respondents replied that they are members of online platforms. 72% believe that forums share much more trustworthy and reliable information compared to social media.

With all this in mind, I have created a poll. I am interested in finding out the reasons you would decide to leave Bitcointalk and never return here again. You can vote for more than one of the given options. 5 votes per user is the maximum.

I think most popular reason would be failure to get into good paying signature campaign, or a reduce of profitable bounty campaigns. Or "earning using forum" in general.

Great example is Cryptotalk forum, that was once advertised here in signatures. Due to lack of bounty campaign (last bounty campaign on that forum ran more than half year ago) a number of users left that forum. After forum owners reduced the amount of post reward, great amount of user left it. Only spammers and those who have high ranked accounts and use forum for referral link promotion are left there.

The reason I would leave Bitcointalk will be lack of interest in cryptocurrency (as a technology/opportunities it gives) or simply lack of free time (instead of reading forum, I would just read cryptocurrency related news webpages (i.e https://cointelegraph.com)).

Death. Though I may still haunt the forum after I die. Haven't decided yet.

You may not believe>someone told me<>he currently has a new business to manage>he has been on this forum from 2010.

The person wants to start a new life> <with sales of DOGE $0.7<>he bought at that time $0.002=$800> the simple reason for wanting to start a new life and leave the forum.

He messages me to say<>Thank you Forum Bitcointalk><for introducing Bitcoin = crypto to him> [someone].

Other members> <may have mentioned it when leaving the forum, Lauda, ​​Bruno etc.

[Right choice]

I think when I'm more focused about marriage, job and family or should I say when I get really busy on with my life. I wouldn't say I wouldn't return when I get inactive here but when it turns out I need some information regarding crypto, I'm sure I'll get back here.

I considered adding loss of interest as a separate category, but in the end, that also somehow fits inside "Age, family, life, and/or personal problems prevent me from being active".

That's another personal reason to leave the forum. See you in the next life ;D

theymos never struck me as someone willing to shot himself in the foot. He knows very well the traffic that is generated from signature campaigns as well as the altcoin boards. That's why there is no such option in the poll ;)

I hope that we are still alive when mind uploading like what in Cyberpunk 2077 is  invented so I can be an quasi-AI/ghost on the Internet and like what you said, haunt this forum. To be honest, if this thing with crypto continues to work through my able years, I think that death is the only reason that I will stop going to this forum.

I didn't vote because I didn't find an acceptable option for myself ... in the end, maybe hilariousandco is really right. Although I doubt his ability to rise from the dead, at least until LoyceV uploads his consciousness to the network and explains how to do it.  8)

Same here. I feel so incomplete if i do not visit the forum for a day. I can't now even imagine to leave this forum. There is so much to learn in this forum and more importantly you are free to express your expression in any field / interest of life whether it be bitcoin, pandemic, politics or Elon Musk  ;)

I wouldn't leave the forum for the other reasons but I'd say the perm ban is definitely the last straw.


So other members would still see posts removed from time to time. Oh God ;D

This forum isn't what it used to be.
Back in the good old days of 2013-2014 it was the IT place for crypto. Now, not so much.
I'm noticing that most good projects, and by good i mean ones that actually do well (50x) in the last 2-3 years have no mention on this forum
Apart from strong bitcoin info, most altcoin info is just scams and moneygrabs.

Not mine but some common reasons

• Death
• Permanent ban
• Get rich enough and start to enjoy life
• Lack of easy bounties, good paid signature campaigns
• Need to focus on something else: learning to code, trade, invest or others that are not related to cryptocurrency
• Many people still visit the forum (as a guest) or logged-in account but don't make any post

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They began with generous campaigns and as a global forum. Months later, they changed to a local forum that restrict many nations and it seems they have become a Russian forum.

Their campaign began with payment in BTC but then in the shit token.

It's true that chances of signature campaigns getting removed is very low, but that could still happen, meaning it should have been included in the poll, imho. Even more so as we know that big part of the forum activity is the product of the ongoing signature campaigns so it would be interesting to see how many would vote for that option.

I voted for several "Age, family, life, and/or personal problems prevent me from being active." since it was the closest one to the reason that could get me away from the forum, and its simple boredom. There are forums that I am active for at least ~20 years, and every 4-5 I got fed up and take a break so I guess it could be the main reason for leaving this forum too (at least for some time).

I either get permabanned or if personal/health/life problems prevent me from being active. BTT has been part of my daily life for a while now and to be honest other than it being a great information hub about all cryptocurrency-related things it is also a good place to stumble upon news that you usually miss or don't know about.

That's most likely true for the majority of members, and your example of cryptotalk was an appropriate one.  As soon as people stop getting paid to post (or can't manage to get into a campaign or bounty), suddenly their motivation to be a member leaves them completely.  Personally I'd keep posting here regardless.  I didn't register on bitcointalk with the intention of ever joining a signature campaign and really didn't know much about them until I'd spent a few months on the forum.  The only way I'd leave is if I found that I'd outgrown the forum or if something in my life prevented me from being able to post here (or if I got banned, of course).

There were never anything but spammers and plagiarists on that site.  Basically, cryptotalk.org took the bottom-feeders from this site and tried to create a workable forum around their membership--and it failed spectacularly.  I haven't visited cryptotalk in a long time.  Is it even still active anymore?

I added another reason to leave the forum as requested by a few members. You can now also vote for the admins removing or banning signature campaigns as a reason you would leave Bitcointalk. Since 5 votes are allowed per user and I added ticked the box that you can change your votes, everyone who wants to vote for the new option can now do that.

I voted the most popular here as well "Age, family, life, and/or personal problems prevent me from being active."

I think Death would be the case if this happens.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure the people who voted for "Crypto has made me wealthy already. I have no reason to be here anymore." are in it for the money. :o

I voted for the similar one and it's almost the same.  I know my recent job consumed a lot of time than in here but I still have found ways to be updated on what happened in the crypto space and besides, there's nothing good crypto forum to hang on to, it's Bitcointalk.

Bitcointalk has been a part of me and even in the crypto world, so I don't have any reason to leave since this has been given me a lot of benefits.  I've learned a lot on this forum, it's sharpened my skills and knowledge about blockchain technologies, and even my English writing skills were improved compared it before.  Considered also, there's an extra income in here. ;)

It might death or physical/mental disability will be the reason to leave in Bitcointalk, as long as I can able to read or still have visual impairments, Bitcointalk is always good to hang on and the reason why we're still here right now.

That looks like a logical answer, but doesn't necessarily have to be the case.

Let's say that you are just an average guy, working some job for an average salary, can't afford much and spending few hours a day browsing the forum, talking to others and while doing so, getting some pocket money via signature campaign. Then suddenly, through some dumb luck and meme shitcoins pumping, you end up having 10 million dollars. You may wanna travel around the world ( maybe not during this covid19 crap), start your own business etc. With money, you get the chance to do many things that you couldn't afford before and you only have so many hours in one day, meaning you will have to cut some things.

Damn, I'd love to travel but like you said, this pandemic has ruined lots of plans.

If I were to be super rich from this, business is the first thing that comes to mind.

I agree with you. I couldn't choose five options. In my life, I had to leave the forum twice. The first case was due to my own mistake as a beginner, and in the second case, I was forced to leave the forum for personal reasons due to the illness of a loved one.
My absence has never happened of my own free will. The forum has become a part of my life for me; the morning starts with a cup of coffee and reading the forum. The day ends with a reading of the forum. I am not in danger of inadvertent enrichment, I am not on social networks, the people who are here are pleasant to me. Therefore, I hope that the forum will remain in my life as long as I would like.

Where is the bitcoin option can't legally traded? LOL
I feel the government will be the biggest hindrance because of the regulation they put in place for bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies. If bitcoin and altcoin trading is banned by the state, then I think it's time I left this forum even though there are a few other point that make sense in the pool.

Were you banned at one point when you were just starting out?

Bitcoin and crypto are already banned in a number of countries around the world, but it doesn't stop people from trading P2P and using TOR, VPN, and other tools for masking their whereabouts. The point of bitcoin is not allowing the government to tell you what to do. But I guess it's a whole different story if someone gets punished hard for doing whatever they deem to be illegal.     

I have left fora for a number of reasons in the past.

I left a domainer forum when it converted to a paid membership.
I have left a few because they stopped allowing links to my sites in signatures, or they stopped allowing signatures.
I left another one when it was taken over by a load of people whose only interests seemed to be travelling to spain, and getting drunk on cheap booze.
I've cut back on my posting in the Bitcoin Talk forum, as it seems to have been taken over by many who have a passive acceptance of government and msm misinformation and propaganda.

It would be great if we could have some threads that discussed and questioned the manipulated fake news that is affecting our live to a considerable extent. Obvious topics are pharmaceuticals ans vaccination, fiat currencies and their replacement, the manipulation of wealth preservation assets, the destruction of family values, distortion of human sexuality, and a whole range of similar topics.

I am certain you are talking about COVID-19 and vaccinations.

Most of those are off-topic discussions that shouldn't be the focus of a bitcoin forum. They belong either in off-topic, serious discussion, or politics. Bitcoin can be discussed with homosexual anti-vaxxers who love the British pound, as well as straight people who live in families with 2-3 children who don't want to get their COVID shots. You can combine the options anyway you want. I don't understand why you would stop using a bitcoin forum due to someone's off-topic/unimportant viewpoints. 

My first thought: I'll leave when I'm dead.

So I clicked these:
By the time I turn into a shitposter, it's time to leave.

Family and personal problems always come first. But as long as I'm not dead, I assume that's only temporary.

If you do, please screenshot https://bitcointalk.org/myips.php and post it ;) For science, of course :)

There's an option missing from the poll: personal safety, privacy and/or taxes. Lauda's post made me feel like (s)he left because of safety:

And if theymos doesn't answer those questions of mine ;D

Good thinking! I also got the feeling from reading the goodbye thread that someone was on to her or made a serious threat that made her quit.
Therefore, the option "Personal safety, privacy and/or taxes" has been added to the poll. 

yep, he got banned for copy-pasting according to hilariousandco but it was then changed to a temporary ban and 1-year sig ban most likely because of his contribution to the forum. in the end, I am glad everything went in his favor. sorry for answering on his behalf.

here's the ban appeal thread he created
DT1 member lovesmayfamilis BAN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5141782.0)

Some of the contributors to our forum get exhausted so some of them decided to take a break for a meantime, few of them leave permanently because they want to give a shine to other member and think have enough contributions and let the other members continue the legacy.

These are some guess why they leave.

• Have enough funds
• Settled in life
• Feel tired of the same daily routine
• Get banned

I think for me it's hard to leave the forum there is a lot of information here that gives help to my future investments and more.

I almost left due to mod and deletion of my post. But now I  find it difficult to leave this forum because it has helped me a lot. It developed my reading and quality post habit.

There are many reasons that makes some people to back off from forum. Among many of the reason is the moderation. Some people became discouraged and left forum because most of their post is deleted or ban

Is there an option where "When KYC now required in the forum"? ::)  jk lol. I already long time ago that theymos wouldn't do it. :D

For real, I chose the options "Age, family, life,....." and " Personal safety, privacy and/or taxes....".
It is the same way for me when I take a break from Facebook, and I just read the stuffs here in the forum and chill.
That's why when life gives ya lemons, grab a tequila.

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Multiposting with our alts with the same Telegram username aren't we?
Links:
[1]: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5258343.msg54739517#msg54739517
[2]: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279211.msg55298631#msg55298631

Just joined (late to the party) so won't be leaving anytime soon. And it reminds of Craigslist (just checked, it's still up!). So basic and yet functional.

If it was just  one member, then I would just put him on ignore, and I have done this with a couple of stalkers.

I was referring to the general mindset. If the majority of members are just posting MSM reports, and not bothering to research or question the facts, and those posts are showered into potentially interesting threads, then it isn't worth trying to follow the thread. This is especially true if such members have to clog the thread with redundant quotes and images. The tech boards are great for helping members with Bitcoin issues, but Bitcoin is now established in the world economy, and therefore it has become important to consider global political and economic issues. It seems few are prepared to investigate anything beyond their own local issues, and the peccadilloes of their politicians.

I think the mistake with cryptotalk was that they advertised themselves as 'earning' forum. That only gets you far. While here, if you have any question regarding crypto, there is high chance you will receive a response that solves your trouble, here we have noteworthy members, some of them who are here since BTC was at much less value than it's right now.

Many coin/token founders were active on this forum at one time. That brings reputation in itself.

Also, the 'couldn't get into signature campaign' is 0 voted option in poll so far.

Good catch. He didn't even bother making unique usernames, that's how little he cares. Probably a bad attempt to get a merit by voicing his opinion.

I am sure many people would leave exactly for that reason, but they are not willing to share that info.

Is the poll anonymous? If yes, I don't see reason why wouldn't they be real there.

As far as I know, only Admin can see who voted what.

Two alternative accounts write about one event, that is, that messages are deleted. But they may be facing another reason why they can leave the forum. Moreover, both accounts are familiar with the fact that you cannot plagiarize, and it is also difficult to call them a beginner. However, they do have plagiarism.

Although, according to one of the accounts, we should be lenient and even encourage them with a warning.  :)

There is many reasons why I would leave forum.
First and the most obvious is death.
Then ban. If I would get banned, no way that I would be ban abuser and would start with new account.
Real life stuff. Maybe I won't have enough time for Bitcointalk because of family, work or other interests which will become more important than Bitcoin. Or maybe I simply will get bored with crypto and it won't give joy for me.
KYC - no way that I would do it here.
Another thing which wasn't mentioned is change of ownership. If new owners of Bitcointalk would be anti-Bitcoin and turn this forum into something like Bitcoin.com, there wouldn't be any reason for me to stay here. Even if signature campaigns will remain, there is more important things than it.
I completely forgot about this forum. Does it still exists? Without bounties it was difficult to imagine different faith for this forum.

As far as I know, before could only make one choice ... and, judging by the fact that I was able to vote for several points at once, it can be assumed that Theymos slightly updated the voting function. Given that any changes to the current version of the forum are immediately duplicated in Epochtalk, we can assume that the development continues. I was leading the monologue to the fact that Pmalek needs to add one more reason ... someone might say, "I am leaving the forum forever because tomorrow we are switching to Epochtalk".

That would be another knock-down for the forum. Couple that with banning signature campaigns and removing that altcoin boards, and we can start thinking about which color the Bitcointalk coffin should be.

theymos' view on this is clear:

I didn't think about that and it's a very good point. Would it make sense adding that to the poll at this stage, though? The number of available options keeps increasing.

I think that theymos already has a plan in case something happened to him or he just became tired of the forum. I really don't see it being auctioned off to the highest bidder. It will certainly get "inherited" by someone with a similar mindset.     

The only reason why I will leave forum is when personal matters obligation is too heavy which will give no time to browse and discuss about crypto. The only reason why I'm still here was this is the only place where I can talk about crypto no string attach. I can't discuss this kind of stuff within my company as well as my friends and family. I love the forum overall even though most of the post here is just a generalize without a zero purpose of discussion. I love browsing stuff such as personal opinion about the hot news. And alos some tech stuff if I encounter some problem on my wallet/transaction.  :D

The main reason why I am still active on this forum after 7 years is the community, the people I met and became friends with.
I have already met some of them in person and it was an unforgettable experience.
If these people left the forum, then I would probably lose the main reason to continue to be active here.
Of course, I can also mention the campaign signatures as a motivation, but even that is no longer as important to me as it used to be.
The moment I get bored here and lose my friends, I’ll probably leave too  :D

Any forum/community has its unique atmosphere that you have to adapt to if you want to be a part of it, a part that others listen to and respect. I think bitcointalk is relatively not that forum where you come to in order to have a good chat with people of the same interest. This is because of the moderation level. Humor-based messages or messages of 4-5 words that are written to ONLY react to someone's message are barely tolerated in btt. They are considered to be spam and get removed. Every single message should be informative, comprehensive, and meaningful.

I'm not saying this is a con or something compared to other forums, it is just as it is. Maybe it's for good.

So, back to the question. I believe, issues caused by my end (family, tight schedule, etc.) would possibly make me stop using bitcointalk for a certain time, but surely nothing can cause me to quit it permanently. Technically, a ban might cause but I'm sure I won't do anything that would lead me to a permaban.

Well, when I made this post, I expected that someone will quote this legendary theymos phrase :D.

Yeah, probably theymos have plan for such scenario that Bitcointalk would appear in good hands. So, I just posed it as hypothetical scenario, or in other words - ''what if...''

Reputation and integrity is what I really cared here the most. Here on Bitcointalk, it may take years to build a great reputation or integrity but only takes minutes to lose them completely. If we are not careful here especially following the rules, we would end up having a bad reputation later on and may get flagged or leave negative trust.

I almost call it quit on Bitcointalk early last year (took a month long break) because I was so down not having a crypto job and on my way to being broke. I slowly switched to travel niche, but it got worse due to the COVID-19 pandemic, which forced me to go back to crypto desperately looking for an opportunity until I found one and I am still working with them as of this time.

Quitting is not an option for me, because I really want to be here for a very long time.

Exactly this jetcash, I am in almost complete agreement..




Most of this forum has regressed to normie tier NPC sheep that just love to spout the mainstream Marxist narrative, completely contrary to what Bitcoin is..

Bitcoin IS a political movement, it just so happens to also be valuable..
Most have completely lost sight of that..

The potential world changing political implications of Bitcoin are MASSIVE, as it is probably the best tool of liberty to bring power to the individual since the invention of the firearm..

Bitcoin is possibly more dangerous and possibly disrupting to TPTB than firearms actually..

That’s why I’ve always been in Bitcoin, for the sovereign power it brings me as an individual, taken away from those who want to control..

That’s why Bitcoin was started and that is why it was maintained for years before it was really worth shit..

Now it is worth something and attracting some of the smoothest brained NPCs I have ever witnessed on the internet to “earn” something..

The IQ of this place has become ridiculous with the influx of all these morons that only think about somehow making a profit off of Bitcoin and crypto in general..
Most posts here are some of the worst writing I have seen anywhere on the internet, and even DT is loaded with imbeciles only interested in crypto to try to get fiat money out of it and earn something..

This forum should be for those who are seeking personal freedom, to take their power back from the control of ruling powers..
We are supposed to be interested in stopping governments and central banks from printing money to finance wars, bail out banks, and prop up the weak at the expense of the productive..

But here we are.. Most only interested in EARNING something, sucking value OUT of Bitcoin so they can buy some Chinese bullshit at Walmart..

It blows my mind how satoshis forum has turned into such a cesspool of those who love to just suck socialist cock and shill for pennies..


This forum has completely lost direction from the political movement that it was, and now just a bunch of money hungry morons..  


Earning some value is cool yeah, but if you aren’t here to stop authoritarianism, then you are here for the wrong reasons..

Satoshi is either sad as fuck at the sight of this forum, or rolling in his grave..


How about adding “this forum has lost its idealistic direction and turned into not much but a shithole swarmed by money hungry beggars” to the poll..


The standards of personal honor here have also gone to shit..
Top users here used to be worth of immense respect and were dignified and trustworthy, and that’s all out the window in trade for this new image 21st century degenerate “morality” the world is pushed to today..


That’s why I would possibly leave this forum and am mostly uninterested in reading most things here..

Personal reasons and health could be a key factor as to why I am going to leave this forum but since I am still strong and happy, I don't think that I would be leaving the forum anytime soon.

There could be only 9ne reason for me to forget my crypto life and that would come most certainly, after I've archived all including helping to bring up a new generation of crypto enthusiast and I could no longer keep track or isn't able to comprehend little things about cryptos and life itself. At that point, I could say bye to cryptos as my brains are all aged. Yeah age, is the only factor for me. It does comes around for everyone and when it does, everything doesn't matter anymore. The cloths you wear, the businesses/investments you own and even the food you eat as the idea would always be about eating what doesn't have much of this and that to stay healthy.
So, age could be a major limiting factor for me else, I'm all in!

Nothing is stopping you from discussing such topics with those interested in talking about it. You can always self-moderate your threads and delete each post you consider non valuable, off-topic, spam, or whatever else you don't like. You can make your own local rules and prevent users who you don't like or whose opinions don't matter to you from posting in your threads. And there is nothing anyone can do about it because Bitcointalk allows that. 

Here's another option for the poll: "If I pulled off a successful exit scam (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2425590) or my alt-accounts got tagged for abusing a signature campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=136484;dt)".
These are real reasons for which users have left, but I doubt they dare admit it.

I think that the reason to leave Bitcointalk is always related (at least partially) to why you've joined it in the first stage. I guess that there is a mix of users that come here, with totally different goals:

• To just post content in the hopes of achieving a campaign and just do the least they have to make in order to have their pay at the end of the week;
• Sell their merchandising by exchanging them with BTC in a place where BTC thrives / is commonly used as a token of exchange - In here we have both scammers and really honest and working people that are just trying to embrace BTC as a payment option
• To spread their altcoins and basically never come back / barely use the forum just to make sure that he'll post the same content 1 month after
• Just being a scammer and hoping to scam a couple of people before being caught
• And the people that are honestly interested in Bitcoin and crypto in general. While these could be anyone I don't think the average Joe would hear about BTC on the TV and would right away register here (that takes dedication and interest in understanding BTC - most average Joe's are only interested in making a quick buck with BTC.
  
  

I'm sure that we could all add more type of users here, these were just some of the few that came to my mind. What I wanted to say is that the people that truly joined Bitcointalk to engage in the discussion, share ideas, concepts and build healthy relations with the members here won't just stop appearing here - provided that something bad doesn't happen to them (death) or if they don't get into a heated discussion over here that ends up surpassing this "realm" and actually impacting their real life.

Imagine someone that joined here around 2010 with 25 years old - that person has at least 35 years now and has experienced things that surely we can't grasp - either by having kids and increased responsibilities or simply because they are now in a stage in their life were they simply cannot dedicate the same time here (and other places) that they did when they were 25 years old... I guess that ends up being the "rule of life" right? Of course we always try to participate and be active in every place that we can possible be at, but the day only has 24 hours right?

As for my own reasons to leave Bitcointalk are mainly the same ones that have been shared before :

• The forum would go into a completely new direction - both regarding moderation / some kind of whack KYC process
• Death (this should obviously be the first one but whatever
• Lack/Loose of interest in the cryptocurrency world (not likely to happen)
• Time (as stated in previous paragraphs)
• Major privacy issues

I am pretty sure that if I added those two options, they would have 0 votes because you said yourself, no one wants to admit it. The poll is anonymous, but the admins can probably see how you voted. Although they don't moderate scams and having multiple accounts isn't against forum rules (only disliked by the community), those users still wouldn't want to risk it. 

Theymos would never auction this forum. I think this form will be taken care by the siblings of theymos. As with all the business, their ownership is never transferred to the external shareholders. 

He must have already passed the half of the private keys to his next of kin. Always on standby in case something happens ;D

I left the forum about two years ago due to life and personal problems. Since I don't know much about crypto, I decided to left the forum for good and focus on the real life in front of me. For some reason, I still found my self visiting the forum sometimes with the curiosity of "how's Bitcointalk doin?, are there still spammers left?" but to be honest, it appears that Bitcointak doesn't changed a bit. The same problem from spammers back then still arises after all, well it's not really something that will disappear just after a couple of years.

Back to the the story, I actually planned to return before I left cause I really wanted to start my own service but, due to some failures I don't have the confidence anymore. I don't even post very often as well fearing that I might only spam the thread (I don't know, I just felt it that way) and speaking of posting, this shitpost took me about 20 minutes and I even hesitated whether to post this or not but since you're already reading this seems like I just hit "Post" and there's no turning back. Now that I'm still posting even a single post per year, just like hilariousandco and the others, I think death is also the first thing that will make me leave the forum permanently, I have no plan to haunt the forum.

What makes you think he even has siblings? Unless he wrote about it somewhere on the forum. Considering how private of a person theymos is, I doubt he did. I don't think Bitcointalk is something those close to theymos will inherit. He didn't inherit it by being the child of the previous admin either. Passing it on to children or siblings should not be something he would seriously consider unless they have a major interest in bitcoin and forum management, and they are already on the forum without us knowing about it. 

He didn't wrote anything about his siblings doesn't change anything. Everyone has siblings including him.
No one needs to write personal stuff here.



So if he does not want to inherit, who will be the owner of the forum   :o

No, they don't. ;D Siblings are brothers and sisters, it's not the same as your next of kin. Your wife/husband and children are not considered siblings.   

Whoever deserves it the most due to his contributions to the forum and the work done in the background. The stuff we can't see from posts and sharing on-forum content.

It makes no sense to turn Bitcointalk into theymos' "family business". As for private keys: there are forum treasurers in place to ensure financial security for the forum. Theymos holds at least 750 Bitcoin, the treasurers share access to 500 Bitcoin. That's enough to fund the forum for a very long time.
Passing on half the private keys makes no sense. I assume Cyrus (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=78147) has access to the forum's database.

I thought it would be the safest to leave at least some to his immediately family member(s), guess he has his way of managing the funds.


Even 10 Bitcoin would do, let alone over 1,000 ;D

To me also the idea that some relatives of theymos inherit the management of this forum does not seem too likely and possible.
After all, theymos was not originally the main admin (but only the global moderator) of this forum, and after the departure of Satoshi and some other admins, there was no vacuum here, but theymos took over the management of the forum.
In the same way, if and when theymos leave this forum someone other from the current staff will naturally replace him.
There is no need to worry too much about this issue.

Let me fix that for you. Here we go:
It's good to see that LoyceV can make a mistake every now and then as well ;D
That reminds me of my thread Why does the hyperlink button create a hyperlink in that format? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5275075.0) If the = sign was included in the hyperlink button from the start, our dear LoyceV wouldn't have to make mistakes like this.

I will be active in this forum and would be posting here as long as my soul doesn't depart from my body, 8) well that's really a long way to go but I am very much interested to see how this forum will evolve over the years/decades. I might be inactive at times (may be a day or two without logging in or a month or half without posting) and that will continue to happen as long as my account is active because taking care of personal stuff is far more important than being active over here.

I have been part of famous torrenting forums since 2010 and some of them were closed recently for various reasons (may be because of sharing pirated content for over a decade) and I firmly believe a discussion forum like bitcointalk would never become unreachable at any point of time unless and until theymos or any future admins decide to sell the forum for a hefty btc value!

Another discussion forum which I was part of since 2014, became a paid membership just like what Jet Cash said in his post but that being said, even if bitcointalk is converted into a paid forum sometime in future I will pay the btc fees (provided they aren't high) and join again  ;D Bitcoin is young so does this forum too and on top of everything I personally would like to see this forum grow with various advancements in the aesthetic look.

Just like how Voyager 1 and 2 is travelling in the deep space looking forward towards reaching Alpha Centauri in a few millennium, I will be travelling here looking forward towards the changes happening in the future decades.

I'm still here on this forum, things aren't as fun as they were in 2017. New technologies have been developed and we've got enough dodgy in the blockchain space. I notice the altcoinstalks forum is getting more active with more local topics but they will probably never be as professional as here. I'm here and when I'm tired I'll leave but it might take a long time.

Only when my head hurts :(

What button? I just type the bbcode.

Let me present you the most ridiculous reason ever!!

I left the forum 2 years ago, the reason was I became a perfectionist!

I created this account when I was in the university and I was obsessed with merit system at that time. Luckily for me I got merits for few posts and I needed to achieve merits for each and every post and It grew in to a headache, I put a lot of effort and thought most of the posts. I wanted to have a post count which does not have a mile difference with the merit count. Later this became stressful and I learnt that I do not know enough knowledge about Crypto in order have such high expectations.

Then I left the forum, stopped logging in, stopped worrying about merits nor posts.
Finished the degree, started a good job and just today I logged in and posting this!

Now the obsession is over, I am here to freaking stay!!

I don't think merits should really become the purpose of writing on this forum.
I think this forum should become a relaxed place where friends and crypto enthusiasts can meet and share their thoughts and experiences about bitcoin and crypto.
Merits should only be an added benefit for those members who, with their knowledge and experience, can help the community more.
We are all here actually equal members and we are free to write about bitcoin and crypto topics without restrictions and we don’t need to have merits to be able to write.
Merits are only important here because of the possibility of making money on this forum, which is a completely different story.
I'm glad you decided to return to this forum  :D

Only a few people have been able to do this, for instance theymos and gmaxwell. Some people did it by only making one post that received Merit, and some people got there by deleting most of their posts. Most people won't even get close. See: Percentage of Merit received on old posts, deleted posts, and average per post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5051725.0).

But it's not needed to earn 1 Merit per post: to rank up, you only need on average 1 Merit per Activity. If you post a lot, that means 1 Merit per day. More Merit than Activity looks nice, but there's no point other than bragging rights.

Agreed. Merit is supposed to get rid of spammers, not good users.

I was introduced by friend to join this forum and that friend till date is still in forum and have not quit. He has made a lot of money and investment too through this forum. For this reason I make it promised to remain and not to quit for any reason.

I never see reason that will make me to leave this forum and I don't pray for any reason of such because I have had a lot of the positive effect of this forum to many lives out there.

Huh, quite a bold statement.
Didn't you mix up your accounts? Newbie with two posts, already influencing many people on this forum?
Tell us your name, wizard?

You probably wanted to say that more merits than activity looks nice, right? I have always thought the same. And if you look at the best posters (in terms of earned merits) and those most knowledgeable about bitcoin (who write in threads of technical nature), you will notice that they usually have more merits than activity points. From the top of my head, there is pooya87, yourself, NotATether, HCP, o_e_l_e_o, and many more. Feels weird to single only a few ones out. In cases like that, merit is the benchmark of the quality they bring.     

My reason to leave the forum most likely would be if The forum isn't spicy anymore where no scams occurs, no one news about the scams and their ways of scamming xD

The second reason would be IRL issues of me not being able to give forum time, which ofc would be temporary and there would be a chance of me coming back.

A permanent reason to leave would be ending up dead myself or Forum dies before.

Your decision to remain or leave the forum should not be dependent on another user, notwithstanding if it's the user who introduced or even educated you about the forum, you should have your own purpose, goal and reason for being on the forum, which the failure to achieve that could then make you say goodbye for good to bitcointalk forum. If you're on this forum only cause your friend is still here, does that mean you'll leave whenever he leaves, just does not make sense imo.
I know there'll definitely be scams on the Bitcoin network/forum, but it does not make the forum spicy, neither is the constant highlighting of scams too good for the network and it's newcomers, but the modus operandi of scammers being made popular on the forum is one reason why people are here and could be a reason to leave if eventually in the future there's a dearth of such information.

Other than death or a serious illness, I see no other valid reason for leaving this forum. Not at all. OK, I might reduce my engagement due to commitments and things in my life, but I wouldn't leave the forum completely. To me, Bitcointalk has always been a fantastic and inexhaustible source of information about bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general, and I don't expect that will change any time soon.

Thank you for all the good times here guys!

This question is very critical to give an answer, leaving bitcointalk community show that you are leaving everything concerning cryptocurrency in general, and also ready to abandoned digital currency, from my concept it's quite understood that anymore nursing ambitions to leave forum most have interior motive to do so, which might be a political appointment or marriage via female which may be result of load, and for male it can be result of retired from cryptocurrency entirely, so i might say that the person has achieved he or her objectives in the community, because i notice the community is made of diver's knowledge.

Reasons To Leave Bitcointalk?

I think I have found my home here, especially for the Indonesia Sub-Board, I have learned a lot of new lessons and experiences in this forum.

The people are very happy to help each other, Talking about the reason for leaving Bitcointalk maybe the reason is my own death. :'(

Btw, Thanks To Everyone Who Has Helped Me ;)

Leaving Bitcointalk doesn't have to mean you are giving up on crypto or that you wont use it anymore. You can stop writing and participating in discussions in this forum, but still be interested in crypto. Many people don't like forums or have specialized discussion boards that are more attractive for their region, like in some parts of Asia. 

Can I still stay on Bitcointalk if I marry a shemale and dump my load on her/him? ;D

Really your right, because someone might leave bitcointalk community and still investing in cryptocurrency, but leaving the community and still have interest in Bitcoin is totally funny, because its the community that supply us information so whoever that's Bitcoin lover will obtain all the necessary information of cryptocurrency in order to be elevated in forum here,, shall it's my perspective, because base on me, anything that made me to leave bitcointalk community voluntarily, that means i have depart from cryptocurrency entirely, because i will be totally blind of cryptocurrency informations, may people research and after researching the information will be drop on bitcointalk forum, so their is no need to leave the forum since you still have cryptocurrencies at heart.... that's my concept.
 

If both of you share the load, I believe you still have a reason to stay! 🤪

My Reason to leave Bitcointalk

If Bitcointalk forum begins to bring many rules and regulations that will not allow someone to express himself very well. Or when they bring some punishment to stop freedom of speech, I will leave. I am here because I love to share my opinion and read other people's opinion that is my own joy. It make me behave like I am in a big conference meeting with plenty of people.

I don't see that happening. the forum will certainly not move in a direction of censorship, but there will always be rules you have to respect. If those rules prevent you from posting or sharing certain content, you'll have to follow them.

BTW, why are you wearing that under your signature space? Is it worth destroying your forum reputation over it, if you care about those kind of things? 

Interesting that the most common response is that people would be prevented by life from participating here, followed by being banned.  You can see the lack of personal accountability.  If something is important to you, you make time for it.  Nothing "prevents" you from doing things but yourself.  A better wording might be, "I've decided to focus my free time on my personal life."  Being banned should also be reworded to something like, "my inability to follow the rules and be a productive member."

Even the third highest response, "Crypto has made me wealthy already."  Total bullshit.  Crypto doesn't make people wealthy, people's actions do.  If you make an investment and trade  or hold it successfully to make a lot of money, it wasn't the investment that made you rich, it was your handling of the investment.  That's why you're the one that pays the taxes.

I usually don't go out of my way to shit on polls, but this one really rubbed me the wrong way from the responses and the answers.  If you want to be successful, you need to first take personal responsibility for your destiny.  Crypto isn't going to make you wealthy (your actions using it might) and nobody is going to prevent you from using this forum but yourself.

I hope that word vomit helps someone.

If there is any reasons for me to leave this forum would be that I have been substantially ban for one week and so many of my post have been moderated severally. But am still here because I don't see leaving as an option. I have made up my mind and determined to be an existing member of this forum and for that reason am not leaving. I must contribute positively to this forum.

Bitcointalk has died. I often see 200 people online.  

Bitcointalk simply doesnt provide incentive for people to bother with it now for varying reasons.
Primarily this is financial but also even in terms of being an information source.

Merit killed bitcointalk because the only thing bitcointalk offered over reddit or any other crypto related platform was the ability to earn.
Once the centralized self serving merit system was implemented it destroyed the feeling of opportunity and free speech for most new members.  
I mean initially it was the only show in town and the central hub, but as other platforms eroded this bitcointalk also decided to self destruct.

When you create an environment where proven scammers are given support to punish their whilstle blowers by admin then you know the forum is on the way out.

There are now zero outstanding characters here, good or bad (.. well maybe 2 or 3 exceptions so not zero). Just a bland bunch of non achieving low level grifters and their ass munchers. I mean I often read the board but nothing happens or is said that is even interesting in a bad way.
There seems now among the remaining dregs the aim of reducing all friction.  
Those that detest each other will tolerate one another to eek out the remaining btc dust they can grind out of this place.

A sad demise to a once great forum.
However it did its job, crypto was born here. Whatever it turned into nobody should be ungrateful to bct but it's okay to be disappointed with what it became in the end. It is like the parent that turned into everything it taught you to shun and reject.

It often shocks me how many people in crypto dont know about or have ever been on bct.

At the moment, I never thought I would leave the forum. if there is a reason why I left the forum when I no longer invested and studied crypto. Forums can be part of life. I have the main job outside but at times groove ,first I do when sitting on the computer or using the phone. I visited the forum which was the first thing I did.

I'm not going to address most of what you said as I disagree, and its not entirely on topic. However, I think the statement above is, and you might actually be right. Okay, it most certainly didn't kill Bitcointalk, however I do believe it killed of a sub culture of the forum, which was account farming. Either for selling forum accounts or for participating in signature campaigns. Merit practically killed that culture off, because now it actually requires some effort, which not surprisingly a lot of users here aren't willing to put the effort in to reap the rewards.

There's definitely characters within the community that are still here, but maybe not in the most popular sections. I won't deny that we've definitely lost a lot of characters over the years, for better or worse. However, that's just how life is, and how other forums operate too.

@Welsh, he's right (to a certain extent) you know as much as I hate to admit.

As a user of both communities, Reddit does have more vibrance because people are free to post in communities they fancy + modernized UX. Although there are still shitposts and memes, no doubt, but somewhat the discussions feel more natural and not forced. Also, there would be chains of reference quotes the moment some poster starts it, and I enjoy reading those.

@Laudanum, if you visit certain subreddits, they offer incentives to earn for posting. I've seen huge abuses but there are consensus to tone things down.

Seems I was missing this thread. For me, two reasons, Death & Forum disappear. Death means forced to leave even I intend to stay. On the other hand, the forum disappeared means forced to leave as well. If we see the forum disappeared once a day means automatically left. But of course, I will miss the forum always. Except for these two reasons, I don't have the intention to leave the forum at all. But we don't know about the future, there would other reasons to leave as well that aren't listed in your poll. But I believe the forum will not disappear until cryptocurrency live.

That's because new users don't want to put in any effort and want to go straight to picking the apples from the highest branches. It doesn't work like that in life or on the forum. You want your rewards, do the work just like everyone else.

Speaking like someone who had a merit giveaway thread (that died do to inactivity) and I am currently posting riddles where I ask Newbies, Jr., and Members to solve them in exchange for some merits for the best answers and the possibility to learn something, my opinion about those lower ranks is that many don't deserve the effort. Some do, but most don't. When there is an initiative to help them, they couldn't care to take part, when there isn't, they complain why there isn't one.   

I guess it depends on what kind of information you are looking for. I find Bitcointalk useful for finding out everything new that is happening around Bitcoin. Since I don't care about alts, ICOs, DeFi, and stuff like that, I don't go looking for news about that. There are also many local forums here that keep you informed about what is going on in your region. I find that very useful.   

You can still do that. Just look at all the signatures underneath the profiles. All of them are paid. You just have to make an effort to be accepted in a campaign.

As long as free speech doesn't go against the forum rules, nothing is stopping you from speaking your mind. The fact that you are not banned and still posting, shows the forum has free speech.   

That's the way you see it and I am not going to try and change your mind. Why don't you take part in a civilized discussion about Bitcoin or the technology for once? I don't think I have ever seen a post of yours that isn't negative.

When judging bitcointalk, you should keep in mind that forums are not as popular as they used to be, that's the simple fact and in that regard bitcointalk ain't no different than many others. I've been active on various forums (and still am) for ~20 years, and situation is pretty much similar everywhere; old users are becoming less active (which is perfectly natural) while younger generations have bunch of options nowadays that those in the late 90s/early 00s didn't have.

I don't know how it was here before, but for me golden age of forums was somewhere between 2002-2007 when not so many people had access to it, making signal to noise ratio much better

But with everything said, if you want quality conversations, forums are way to go, and that's the main reason why I prefer it over reddit/Discord/Telegram/whatever.

I don't agree to this as bitcointalk is still popular for the new and the old users. Since its not easy to rank to Hero Member and above, those old users (Specially the bounty hunters) will not leave the forum.
I can't remember any other crypto forum which is as popular as bitcointalk. Would you like to share few of the forums you are referring here ?

You completely missed the point I was trying to make, so let me try again. I didn't say that bitcointalk is not popular anymore, I was referring to @Laudanum and his claim that bitcointalk is dying, by saying that forums are not as popular as they used to be (and that's a simple fact) so no wonder that bitcointalk is not as active as before. Go check any stats, and you will see that post numbers are indeed lower than year ago, let alone 2017/2018.



Where exactly I mentioned other crypto forums? I said "various forums", and that didn't imply crypto forums specifically, but forums in general.

My reason could be if I leave this bitcointalk.

1. Death (this could be happened any time, no one knows)
2. Personal Security

This 2 could be my possible reason of leaving this lovely forum. Otherwise I can not think that there is a day will come in my life where I will forget/don't look at bitcointalk.

There are people on various social media, communities in Reddit look for various services on the forum and mostly post them here.

The forum is not dying, Leechers without doing any Seeding are leaving the forum or are being kicked out for various reasons and the competition has increased and Spammers are decreased, I'm sure they'll find other community forums to throw their trash, This forum has already had enough.

Not to mention all who left with leechers there had been good people in the community that left because of life problems and it's not their fault.


Maybe he's referring to forums like altcointalk (Idk if that's the real name)

I mean if you're here in the forum for a long time and you already dedicated a lot of time to the forum or you already love here it's kinda difficult to just leave the forum without any reason.

When you're also trading the forum is a big help and even though I don't do a lot of questions or posts, I always answer the question but the forum is always handy when I don't understand something in some wallets like Electrum or when I need to have some opinions on an exchange or about my trading.

I think the common reason is just lack of time since we also have our own jobs and not everyone has the time to keep doing a post or give some time on the forum. And for some high ranks, I guess death.

Me too.  Whenever I happen to meet someone who is into crypto I often bring up the forum to see if they're someone I may have crossed paths with or that I may know something about.  I have yet to meet anyone who has ever heard of this place in the real world.  It's mind blowing to me because I always thought of this place as the center of Bitcoin activity.  Now it's a place people think is only for spamming for cash.  At some point it became more profitable while dealing with less harassment to spam here than actually put work into creating a product or service that would benefit the community.  Why deal with the trolls yelling scam and trying their best to harass you on and off the forum while you spend countless hours working on your passion, when you can just write some word vomit, collect a weekly payment and not give a shit?  This is all due to the atmosphere that's been allowed to persist, while those in a position to stop it would prefer to decentralize their responsibility to avoid personal responsibility, or what is known in other words as letting the inmates run the asylum.  

This has the most votes in the poll:


Personally, I think most of the users in the forum are vulnerable to life struggles like we all do. One day, you might be active and eagerly focused in helping the forum grow, answering queries and helping people. Suddenly, life happened and you are not here anymore, no focus, no passion and no drive to carry on.
We can safely assume that most users today are here due to their own volition to help each other and earn while doing so.

Note: Taking a break can also help you improves your focus. Don't let anything hinder you from reaching your goals. (Take a break and don't quit)

One word: privacy! I wouldn't tell anyone IRL I use Bitcointalk.

You don't have to tell them your username and problem solved.

All my IRL friends that are into crypto know that I am active on bitcointalk as I tried to "recruit" them, but I shared my username only with the few closest ones that I know for like 30 years. Unfortunately, I wasn't successful at all in my attempts to bring few crypto enthusiast here that I think would be a good addition, and some were active long time ago but have no intention to come back ever again, for various reasons.

This has been my experience as well. I’ve tried to get acquaintances to participate here and learn about Bitcoin. They all pretty much go through the same pattern. They join and try to learn. Their questions are usually met with snarky responses so they attempt to offer goods or services that they provide for dollars that they are familiar with, get called attempted scammers and harassed, then never come back. I’ve watched this happen so many times. Lauda and Vod alone are probably responsible for chasing away thousands of potential contributors here over the years. It’s crazy to see the moves made to empower users who literally go around trolling contributors here. It’s like we’re actively trying to maintain a good old boys club to be a echo chamber of yes men around those who are failing us all.

In my lifetime, I should not leave this forum, because I like to communicate with some friends in this forum, collide with ideas, and get some useful knowledge. Actually, I came to this forum not to make money. I want to learn some interesting encryption knowledge from it, and hope that this forum will exist for a long time, because there are too many treasures waiting for us newcomers to discover.

This may sound like a hostile reply but it seeks only the truth.


Ah the standard chipmixer spammers reply...  works fine for me because I can spam chipmixer.

Here are some questions and challenges for you  the answers to which will demonstrate you're talking rubbish.

1. Read this thread and then try to debunk it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088852.0

This thread is actually understating the damage of merit since merit was not at that point directly being conflated with trust.

2. Find a post made by myself or any of my alleged alts that was ever conclusively debunked or seriously challenged that relates to the obviously undeniable independently verifiable and insoluble problems with the current merit and trust control systems and their direct impact upon free speech here. I mean a ban is not the only threat that can create an echo chamber. But threats of banning have been issued to people before.

The joke is that simply presenting independently verifiable truths will get you slathered in bogus red tags from chipmixer spammers who wish to protect their merit and trust cartel that allows them to cream off the higher paying sig spots.

3. If you have been here since may 13 and are not wealthy enough to allow someone else a chance with chipmixer ? What does that say about you?  If you are not a multi millionaire, that demonstrates terrible judgement or if you are already superwealthy then it is extreme greed to deprive others of a sig spot.


4. It is untrue that you need to break the rules to be banned or threatened with a ban.
I notice TOAA documented all of its deleted posts and then challenged anyone to present a solid argument as to why they were deleted.
The mods ran off and when they did try to provide an explanation it was immediately debunked and shown to be bogus.
These kinds of bogus metrics can be used as a weapon to propose a ban.

Telling inconvenient truths or even presenting indisputable evidence of scamming or scam facilitating by DT or others can get you tagged and banned. They will get you tagged for sure.

The forum is toxic at its core. People will not be part of a system where scammers are able to punish whistleblowers and this is supported by admin who join in and support the scammers against their whistleblowers.


The truth is the truth. It can never be negative. The truth needs to be accepted and then the appropriate solutions need to be implemented.
Relating unpopular truths is the most positive thing one can do for this forum.

Lack of fair playing field in terms of earnings or even being able to reveal independently verifiable truths or evidence without punishment are 2 key reasons some will leave.

Of course becoming wealthy will bring more opportunities into range that take up time.

But it's a spiral.  One of the most interesting members was banned, people that I notice seemed to post directly in response to him then didnt bother posting. People that came to read their interactions and join in now and then didnt post much.
The less interesting and enjoyable content to read the less you visit.

There a numerous reasons some of which were beyond the forums control that lead to its demise but merit was the cancer especially when it was conflated with trust that polluted its core and made it toxic.

It really doesnt matter much because bitcoin and crypto in general have outgrown bct.
Bct did its job great, so what happens to bct now is of small import.

It is useful for perhaps very technical discussions but how many of the 200 or 300 online are super eggheads and boffins and how many are chipmixer sig spammers regurgitating each others comments over and over to max their posting payouts is anyone's guess.

Bitcointalk shouldn't be judged on what it has become now. It should be admired as the birth place of bitcoin, alts and quite possibly the largest paradigm shift in many peoples lifetimes. Finding bct was the best thing that happened to many people myself included.
So we must all be grateful for bct and the job it has done to foster the adoption of bct and alts.

I see a few bad eggs spoiled the recent years but they were just capitalizing on some poorly conceived and implemented attempts to prevent spam.

I do believe a smarter control for the bots and spammers would have seen bct grow and harness the energy from all those that will spend hours and hours even if they have little natural ability or creativity for 50 bucks...without letting their negative side infiltrate those that want to contribute quality and reasonable value.

The issue we have now is that alts have noticed bct is dead and no longer launching here.

There isn't really much point to fighting over how the left over scraps of bct turn out.

Perhaps it should gradually aim to forget "size" or number or posters and focus on becoming a tight knit technical community that purely encourages egg heads and boffins. Cut back more to the valuable hardcore and any projects that spring from that.

In that case just delete all sigs and see what real enthusiasts remain.

I lost interest in your post as soon as I saw the words "debunk" and "verifiable truths". I have seen it dozens of times already. I also didn't read the thread you linked to. I am not interested in the quarrels you have with other forum members nor do I take part in dramas and conflicts. If you want to talk Bitcoin, there are appropriate boards for that. Keep me out of stuff that don't concern me. No one forces you to be here if you hate every single aspect of this forum. 

Cut the excuses. The merit / trust  system has driven many away that could have been retained and been useful.

Just say that you want to run away.

Lol at telling me how negative and terrible my posts have all been,   but now don't dare to transparently analyse them publicly and find out there is not one core point that I have made that is anything but the raw and unpopular truth.

I'm a huge fan of bct and what it has achieved all things considered. Of course it isn't anywhere near what it once was.

Keep yourself out of drama by confining your posts to things that are demonstrably true and avoid posting bogus and misleading garbage in response to my undeniable and independently verifiable truths.

I haven't thought about leaving for the time being. If there is a reason, it may be that I am no longer in the encryption world. The only reason why the forum attracts me is that the precipitated content is very precious. Many of the posts I have read are from a long time ago. This is the biggest advantage of the forum. :'(

My reason to leave the forum by choice would coincide with my decision to become a recluse,
to withdraw from society and become self suficient, lead a simple life and escape the pressures
of life and the consumer type society.

or if the membership or activity became so low that there was very little conversing happening.
 

I would really like to know how the case study behind that assumption, just out of curiosity. The merit / trust systems should not influence if a user uses more or it doesn't use the forum - most of the time they reflect a users personality - those that have good intentions, good personality and an overall positive atitude towards helping others - and they end up being rewarded with either merit, trust, or both. Also, a member can still post freely even with the merit / trust system, they aren't blocked from posting anywhere - as long as it's not spam / low content / goes against the rules. If they ended up leaving it wasn't for sure due to the trust / merit system.
You can have all the reason in the world, but if you enter with that kind of stance in discussions - "Everything I say is true and undoubted and undeniable" - you'll loose your reasoning in no time. You seem to have a "beef" with someone or something, but you should let that kind of judgment cloud your mind to the point that you refuse to hear anyone else. If you have reasons to believe that you've dealt with injustice, gather up your evidence and open a report on the rightful thread.

Don't encourage him. ::)

Some people just have to hate everything, you can't help them. It seems that he finally left. He hasn't been around for a few weeks, but he will be back. When he comes back and starts posting from this or a new account, you will recognize him with help of keywords such as "truth", "verifiable", "undeniable", and similar. You can't miss it. It's always a wall off text attacking the forum's admins, DT members, the trust, or merit system.

Are you sure it's not because you can also earn money here through signature campaigns that you're not yet leaving the forum? I am not gonna that's part of why I don't leave and the other is that it helps me with investment strategies so when I eventually go away, I would still get something out of it. Plus, there's a lot of unforeseen events that might lead to a permanent absence in the forum but I do hope that it's not a life threatening thing.

Only if I banned or due to age factor and family responsibilities but both these things are less likely to happen so I will stay here as long as the forum is active and the discussion is going on related to cryptos.

Another one reason I may leave the entire crypto is only if the bitcoin reaches zero and no one is ready to use it anymore. :)

I can't exactly what would be that reason. Because i have knowledge about my future then i could be change it too.

I don't know about that but from all this option it could be happen anything :
-If i got permanent ban.
-Death.
-If i started a business and i do not have much time to spend on forum.
-If i lost my this account.

Or there might be some reason but now i can think anything what type of reason it could be. But i wish didn't have to leave bitcointalk. Because i want to stay with bitcoim till my last day and if i want to then i need news, people’s opinion and many expertise research and where i will get this obviously in bitcointalk then how can i leave bitcointk?.

Why would you not accept Bitcoin if you make a new business? It would be with your best interests right?

Yeah sorry about that Pmalek. Thing is these kind of arguments that he gave and especially the way that he said them just triggers something in me mostly because people can't have that attitude in life. But yeah, at least one good thing is that he keeps is way of thinking and wording consistent, so I'm sure it will be easily spotted if he ends up bringing back another account or coming back. I wonder, did he left because of the merit / Trust system?  ::)

Should never have put the temporary illusion of safety above personal liberty..
ie tagging and chasing away “likely scammers” and crushing the unique economic dynamic of account sales..

This forum started acting like protecting idiots is more important than letting users express their free wills..


How many countless good and intelligent users have been chased away because they “might” scam..

A new startup can’t come here and start a signature campaign for example without completely being bullied into “trusting” some escrow they have probably never heard of, so heaven forbid they couldn’t possibly scam some users willing to take the risk..

A new user can hardly post anything for sale here without being bullied into some 3rd party “idiot protection” scheme because OMG they might try to scam you..

A new user here can’t start lending on any sort of collateral because holy shot they might scam the collateral..

All new economics here CRUSHED by regulatory bullying in the name of “protecting idiots”...



You know what was great times here?
When I could lend against accounts collateral, with a signed staked address, having the signature state the contract clearly, and either profit on my loan or profit on the sale of the foreclosed account..
And y’all had to fuck that all up..
Heaven forbid one of the full member accounts I legitimately acquired and sold might scam some complete idiot..
I even started paying for signatures to advertise my business with my profits..

I’m glad y’all saved sooooo many imbeciles from getting “scammed” by shutting that entire thriving economy down..

Oh right, the morons probably just threw their (saved from scam) money at one of the great 2017 ICOs instead..
I’m sure their filthy rich now thanks to all that saving grace..

“Campaign/bounty managers”, oh those valiant pillars of our community, surely made their cuts off the countless ICO scams and casinos designed from the start to suck up every Satoshi they can..
What heroes..
So trustworthy..

These “managers” are held in such high regard, yet never deemed responsible for their outcomes, of the biggest scams and suctions of satoshis this forum has ever seen..
Yet on they go, and nobody will speak a word against them in fear they will be ostracized by them from getting their own chance to earn a couple satoshis advertising the next big Satoshi suck on offer..


You would NEVER have needed the “merit system” if you would have listened to what I have been saying for YEARS!!! YEARS!!
Quit swatting the spammer flies and take your fight directly the these shit “managers” and “companies/projects” that pay for the shit in the first place, causing its existence..

Nope.. Y’all too scared you won’t get your next chance at a paid signature, so you run around DOING THEIR JOBS FOR THEM and acting like you are so great for “busting spammers”, lowlife nobody shitposters, FOR the shit “managers”, while you suck up to them so you can get YOUR next shot at YOUR next paid signature..

“Look at meeee!!! I busted 20 alt accounts getting paid to spam this advertisement!! Aren’t I amazing!!!??!!”

Not impressive at all..
You should have wrecked that manager and the representatives of that project FOR employing all those shitposters, and just ignored all of those worthless dime a dozen spam accounts..
Oh no, but then that manager or project might not have hired YOU in the future.. Can’t do that eh?

Just bully all newbs instead of battling the sources..
Pays in plenty of merits now too.. Keep catching them alts!! Fast track to DT1 being the heaviest handed regulatory fist against the little guy you can.. Go get that status!


I see more positive trust left for the destruction of economics than I do for the participation in it..
“Such a great alt buster! So many tag!+++”

You didn’t really accomplish shit.. 1,000 more spring up for every 100 you slap down, with unknown collateral damage of good users, while the sources of the problems asses are kissed clean..

I could say a thousand more things about the hypocracy and misdirection of those appearing to be in “leadership” positions around here..

Not much more than a popularity contest for the eyes of those who sign those signature transactions..


Down she goes!!


Think you guys can come up with any more ideas (like the merit system), that target all the low hanging symptoms of the problems, but yet simultaneously absolves all the sources of the problems from any guilt whatsoever?
Ready to hear your bright ideas of what more regulation you can impose next..

P.S.
BTW..
I have more respect for Cryptohunter than I do for half of the current DT..
He is much more of a “true legend” than half of these newb fucks who can’t rub 2 satoshis together, but yet choose to spend their time virtue signaling chasing merits, rather than actually doing something productive that might net them some of their very own satoshis some day..

Too bad CH called out the almighty Lauda making himself the enemy of every coattail rider near and far..

Don’t respond to that “troll” newbs..
That “troll” has been around the block 21 times before you even got off the tit, and you won’t even know it because you don’t know, but everyone else that has wondered around the block a time or two knows that he absolutely destroys you with occulted (purposefully hidden) facts more times than not, and you don’t even know to know it..

I guess it depends on where the user is located. Accepting bitcoin in a country where hardly anyone uses it compared to one that is considered to be a crypto haven would bring totally different results and adoption rates. It would also depend on what kind of business he is looking to start. If the userbase is mostly people aged 50 or above, they aren't as likely to adopt a new payment method compared to those aged 30 or less who are looking to purchase some IT hardware. There is also the setup process, which isn't as complicated as people think, but it might still intimidate some.   

And where exactly he wrote that he wouldn't accept bitcoin if he started his business? How you even came to that conclusion?

You might wanna read the first post of this topic and @Imran232 again and you will realize that your question doesn't make sense.

The reason why I leave bitcointalk is my age getting old, because age  matters on how we did in our daily life when a person reach 80+ years old some of them experience common illness like Blurred in sight , dementia and being deaf.
But when I am still healthy and young there's no reason I leave bitcointalk.

This forum represents my faith in crypto filed. I'll always believe in Bitcoin, blockchain and Satoshi. So...until death do us apart.
I feel happy here. people of high ranks are not smug and I've never been laughed at for my poor merit. What we have is pure discussion.
I won't leave here forever but only for days, weeks or even months coz I have a job and teaching occupies much of my attention.
If I get super rich, I won't leave since wealth needs management; if poor, I won't as well because I need to snap out of it by my coins.

I feel the same. Really good projects, or teams with excellent genes, do not promote projects on the Bitcoin forum. When making money or getting a bounty becomes the first appeal, those who do bounty plans no longer have the gold content, and a few simple questions are already obvious.

https://i.loli.net/2021/08/06/CJiB7lQGzDsRSUa.png

For pure bounty hunters, I would suspect that each of them will have many alternative accounts.

Here is a more detailed answer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5349704.msg57479164#msg57479164)

Altcoin scams are emerging in endlessly, bounty hunters are full of tricks, it seems to be an industry chain, I am looking forward to the emergence of good projects, but I also hope that sincere bounty hunters will join the project volunteer team, and everything will return to reality.

The times are changing. It's not that I don't adapt to the times. The main reason is that I have become accustomed to forums. I will not leave, maybe death is the only reason.

I am dedicating a fair amount of my daily routine to the forum.
Please bear in mind that I have a life outside of it: a work to put food in the platter, human interactions (I am definitely not an AI, as other members).
But if I look back at the past I can see a balanced relationship with the forum: I got back as much as I put into learning from other users, stimulating my personal research on a new direction, expanding my knowledge on Bitcoin.

So until I am impaired from some very serious condition preventing me to post, I am banned from the forum for some reason (@nutildah, are you after me??) or for some also obscure reason I start realizing I get nothing back from the forum, I am afraid I will still be around or a long time.

You make some very good points here. As much as I like to prevent people from getting scammed, it doesn't work. If someone is willing to lend half a Bitcoin to a Newbie without collateral: let them! It's going to be an expensive but strong lesson for them, and I see no reason to tag Newbies for asking loans.
You also make a very good argument about the ICOs. Most of them are plain scams, probably created by the same small group of people, and they've earned billions of dollars from it. While any BS bounty token platform can spam millions of Twitter and Facebook links to promote their scam, they don't get tagged at all. For some reason it's even a loophole in the spam-rules, and the forum allows it.
The DT-system seems to protect against small scammers, while the biggest ones get away.

Thanks

Seems that post got me removed from SMs trust list, but that’s ok..

I chopped my list for a little while but I’m sure I’ll remake it again soonish..
Don’t know if it matters really..

TLM!

The only way to decentralize the Trust system, is if as many people as possible use it. Even (or maybe especially) if others disagree with them.

The name is the same as the person. Very humorous. There is only one reason why I left the forum. Bitcoin no longer exists and becomes history. In other words, Bitcoin exists and the forum is gone, so I will leave here. The worst is that the author mentioned that my account was banned.

Say what now?

Say what now x2? What "author"? Are you talking about me, the thread starter?
Looks like English isn't you main language, so this could be some weird google translation from your mother tongue. Maybe you were trying to say that the worst thing that can happen is that you get banned.

It's probably a jab at hilariousandco, not you.

If I got banned and If I died.

I spent a lot of time here earning merits and creating quality posts that will help other members, so it's a little tiring to do that again, and it's difficult to find unique posts that have a chance to be merited and ranked up. I know it's not all about the ranks, but achieving status is also an accomplishment that shows you've done something worthwhile in the forum. So, if I ever get banned, I won't register again just to do the same thing again, and I'll lose purpose because I'll be starting from scratch, and being banned means you've done something wrong, so face the consequences.

Bad languages from forum members.
One of my friends leave bitcointalk forum for this reason. Then he joined another platform named Fiverr and he is now established there. We should respect all members of the forum regardless of their rank.

Fiverr is a platform for freelancers and businesses employing contractors for various types of work. It has got nothing to do with cryptocurrencies except if your friend is a developer who writes code for crypto projects. Foul language would never be a reason why I would leave. You shouldn't care what other people on the internet call you or how they address you. I also can't remember a case where someone was bullied or insulted for no reason whatsoever. But then again, I don't spend much time in the Reputation and Scam Accusations subs where that might be happening.

Thank you. At least someone else felt the same, which I was feeling from long time. I just did not have words or times or whatever it is to get them together and get them out.

Being a newbie to this community is a sin! All these grate people forget that they were a newbie when they started. After introduction of merit we have seen so many so-called newbies (they pretend, actually they know the community well and the new account holder is not a newbie. It was created to take advantage only, and we all know what possible advantages they can expect). But those real newbies who do not have any idea of the forum, they just signed in to get to know the community, they see all hates against them. You can not do this, you can not do that, you are scammer, you are a piece of shit wtf!

If anyone comes up with a business idea, then they are scammers. We built up a community which is driven by hate and insecurity. We hate to see others are joining the community, we hate to see a business is launching without giving us a share, what the fuck is this escrow anyway. Haven't we seen what TMAN and gang did against Best_Change? Where are those people now. I see some of them now are in the same very campaign, LOL. Why you felt so anxious and tried to ruin a business at the beginning? Insecurity, expectation of getting merits, showing a fake sense of caring and active member.

We are a community now driven by merit, scam hunting, tagging, punishing newbies. How many bitcoin holders we have now?

CH is not the only one, but I have seen many good users turned into rogue. Why? Put their shoes on, you will not find yourself different from them.

Hey! After reading you, I feel guilty of being a manager. I am not going to defend myself or other managers. There is an ecosystem of doing business and as a manager I found myself lately a fit to it. I can not speak for others anyway.

Update:
Sorry @Pmalek, just read the thread and all about LOL
When there will be no bitcoin, when I will be completely out from crypto, then I may leave this place for good.

People have left (and sold their bct accounts) when they experienced losses in crypto and were done.
There have been times when I've been away for months or a year but I'd have to be banned to leave.

If I got banned= I'd respect the decision. --don't even like saying that "out loud" :D 

I stopped posting because it's 99% shitposts and charlatans here. Many OGs are great to talk to but I'd rather just talk on a chat app.

I also found a very tight knit crypto group that I speak with all the time so no real need for the forum anymore. I do check in here and there but for the most part I'm busy with real life and I never have any questions or concerns about bitcoin so no real reason to post.

If I got banned (no idea why I would) I would obviously evade that ban if i wanted to post, just saying.

I have lots of great memories from bitcointalk but they're just a part of the past now. I don't see myself getting very involved here on out unless there are drastic changes. Where the hell is the new forum and mobile version already? Seriously. Those donations are probably worth billions at this point lmao.

DM me if you need me. I might check my email every few months. Other than that, I'm out.

I noticed that some are not honest with their answers. They only constructed such post to gain attention to their post and could possibly be given a merit. Well, i know that it is a trick to earn more merits but for me, i would rather prefer to be honest.

If i were to leave bitcoin, that would be because if my account got banned, (which i thought that i would never get into that situation), there are no bounties or campaigns to join anymore, if i turn old and my eyesight has gotten bad or if i die. These could be one of the reasons why i'm leaving bitcoin for good. It actually depends on a situation when i should be making a decision but right now i enjoyed being part of the forum. I was delighted that i joined bitcoin.

Even I felt sometimes that I went too hard on newbies and I regret for the same. But it is also damn hard to crop out the real newbies out of the fake ones. Some pretend to be newbies but start posting good, while some keep posting normal stuff but they still know a lot about the community. In between these two breeds, real newbies either leave or are hidden among.

Now coming back to the topic, I will leave this forum when I will feel that I lost the respect (the time I leave) I used to have from forum members. Our character is important, most important than anything in this world.

It's the internet. It is not just here in the forum. Everyone could just lie about their identity and expect people to believe them. It is one of the effects of pseudonymity. Even in Facebook, I see a lot of profiles claiming to be a forex trader, while just slapping their profile pic with a stock photo.
At least you were honest that one of the reason that you would leave is due to those SCs.

What do you mean?
I see you asked about polish board, and someone already answered it. And then looking at your history, I really can not understand what are you doing except spamming. The best place for you to start will be the sticky threads on the meta board. Please check the first 5 to 6 topics at the top here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=24.0).

Wait before you leave let me ask you a question are you willing to learn??

look at your post history  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3368973;sa=showPosts)
I don't think so if you are willing to learn cause if you will then you can help your self or you can study by your own and read the pinned post above the meta board or in beginners and help.

;D, you need a friend, so let me know when you die and decides to haunt the forum, when I die, we haunt the forum together, they say two is better than one, it will be more fun if we do it together, you haunt the Bitcoin board, I haunt the Altcoin board, we will probably need more friends whom you can assign to other boards, like scam and accusation board and the rest. 😁 ;D ;D ::)

Umm it might be nice to have an 'I love bitcointalk and yeah am not going to leave it' option...
I know I have been flaky and taking my time to contribute but I f'ing love this forum.

Bump!!!

Pmalek, because of this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5405024.0), I thought it would be good to bumping your thread to above especially since the discussion is the same. This thread is still good enough to get more replies than having to start it in a new thread.

So for @Fivestar4everMVP, let's continue the discussion here and lock your thread.

As the poll is now closed, I cannot remember if I already voted or not. My choice would probably be "Age, family, life, and/or personal problems prevent me from being active.", although "Getting banned" is also a valid reason. However, I wonder how many people actually lied when choosing that option.  :D

I also can't remember if I voted in the poll or not.
In fact, when I look at the answers provided, my answer doesn't seem to be there  ;D
Honestly, I have left this forum several times for a short while and the reason was always the same, tiredness from this forum.
I simply get bored with the forum at a certain point and have no motivation to participate in the discussions.
This will surely be the main reason for my permanent exit from the forum, when it happens.

I don't remember closing the poll. Is it not possible to vote any longer? I can see a "Lock Voting" button on my end. To me, that suggests that voting is still possible, otherwise that button wouldn't be there. I have not created many polls so I am not really sure how they work and my thinking could be wrong.

Thank you forbumping this topic up because I missed this poll and discussion. I also left my vote in this poll and found out that only 2 real reasons can force users (most of them) to leave this forum: a ban and lack of time. If I can agree with the first, then the second reason, it seems to me, is not so significant. Because it doesn't take long to be relatively active on a forum. It is not necessary to spend several hours every day here and it is enough to spend a little time a couple of times a week. Therefore, if desired, this item "Age, family, life, and/or personal problems prevent me from being active" is easily eliminated.

The poll is still visible on my end and can also submit my vote along with view results so can say it's active and working fine on my end as reflected in the image below:

https://i.postimg.cc/d0LrpmM8/Screenshot-20220704-173819-01.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

So it might be problem on his end only and also don't have an detailed idea about poll working as have not created them so don't know what problem he might be facing in it.

Lol,,, hilarious! Your user spills it too.
I guess that's when you get to the after life and discover that bitcoin has been fully accepted as the means of payment over there. Hence those hodling could as well come back to get there private keys and see phrase to make proper use of there life long investment and not relinquish it to some inheritance and have someone buy a Rolls Royce with it and some lavish house in Hawai and throw parties in the Las Vegas, the city of light, lol.

Well seriously, as I see it know. What could make me live the forum ranges from age as per when my eyes fails me and death. There is no stop to learning and so, you keep pushing until your organs fail and the forum have been a unique community for me.

Thanks for bumping this thread.

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Have voted 5 answers in the poll, I hope it is the closest choice for me personally. 2 of the answers I chose were common choices that most users chose and that's because it's forbidden and also age, family, life or other issues are preventing me from being active. While I still dedicate a fair amount of time to forums apart from signature campaigns or just discussing what I love to do.

This would be a reason => if it is no longer fun and/or productive for me,

Why:

4 posts of mine was simultaneously deleted.

I have posted those with a happy heart.
I don't think all of them crossed the line of being off-topic, except maybe for the one with "Airgrab". but that was the funniest thing I had after a long day.
Were they too short? Were they incomprehensible? Were they frowned upon? Is it because I am wearing a paid signature?

Is there a chance I could reason with who deleted it?


edit:

Thanks for providing the possible reasons @Pmalek +1

This isn't really the place to discuss this, but posts don't get deleted only for being off-topic.

I can see that some posts were deleted in the Wasabi Wallet V2.0 Pinoy Discussion (https://loyce.club/archive/topics/540/5403555.html). What I can see is that you are multiposting. 22 June - 2 posts in a row in the same day. The same things happened on 30 June and 7 July.
I am not sure what is the reason for deletion of your post in Dabs' donation campaign.
Your last post in DOST naglunsad ng Blockchain Training Program (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5403411.0;all) was deleted. It's not in a language I understand, so I can't get into more details about the reasons.
Yeah, the Airgrab one was unnecessary and can be considered low-effort and unnecessary spam.

I don't have any reason why I should leave the forum yet since am still new.
But I don't pray to see any reason because I am enjoying the company here

I would leave Bitcointalk if in Meta, I only see topics about Merit

Sorry I missed this.

I answered only 3

If I got banned
If I got sick
If I needed privacy or tax relief.

BTW those are the top three answers.

Family, life, and/or personal problems prevent me from being active for long time. I have been inactive in the forum for a long time due to my personal problems. But the love for the forum is not over yet. So for some time now I have resolved all the problems and came back to the forum again. I am trying again to stay active on the forum.

Let's be honest, signature campaigns is the reason why most people are here so if admins will ban those campaigns then I think active members will decline to more than half. People will just check this website to gather some info about the current trend on crypto space but will leave immediately once they learned enough. Other choices are not enough reason for someone to leave this forum permanently, they will always come back as long as they aren't banned and can still help them financially.

I agree with that. Signature campaigns and altcoin bounties. Even if they are not as popular as they once wore, bounty campaigns still attract plenty of users. Especially those in third-world countries where even $5 to $10 more a month means a lot. They are willing to sacrifice their time and not earn anything in 9/10 campaigns if there is one that will pay them something that can be exchanged and traded for a reputable cryptocurrency.

This is actually the truth, which is confirmed through all the statistical reports on the activities of this forum, from Rikafip and other members.
In general, the trend is that internet forums are becoming less and less popular, while telegram groups, social networks and similar methods of internet communication are becoming more popular.
This forum follows similar trends and has less and less active members and activities every month.
As much as the signature campaigns affected the quality of this forum due to the large number of low-quality posts, they still helped to keep this forum as active and interesting for new users.

Spam and low-effort posts can be fought by signature campaign managers as well as the administration. If the managers didn't count and paid for meaningless posts, the participants would have only a few choices: they can either improve to get paid or leave the campaign, which would also result in them posting less. The third option is to keep posting the way they did in the past, but if it wasn't good enough in weeks #1, 2, 3, chances are their posting quality will be considered insufficient in the weeks after as well.

Perfect post to come back to after a year hiatus.

Honestly, I will be completely honest, it is somewhat tiring to have to weave through the not necessarily "spam" posts, but just posts with lack of effort. I don't think it's necessarily an issue with signature campaigns, but the downfall definitely started there. When I first joined BitcoinTalk it was a source of intellectual conversations - and frankly - business. When I left it had mostly turned into "post stuffing" in order to fill a quota. While it wasn't the primary reason for the hiatus (family, work, other personal items)

To be completely honest, while I attempted not to (hence my larger posts, coding projects to help the community etc), I myself fell burden to having to post something just to maintain activity and signature standing.

My primary preference with signature campaigns, is no post requirement. If I don't come on for a month to post something, I'm still in the campaign. My posts still have value / benefit to the signature campaign none-the-less. There should be no forced activity provided the account is in good standing / quality posts previously posted. Anything otherwise leads to the above.

First of all, welcome back. ;)
You are not wrong about quality posts being quality posts yesterday, today, and tomorrow. However, they will get forgotten and buried under other posts unless you don't generate new ones of the same quality. It's like with advertisements on TV. It doesn't matter much if you had a good TV ad 2 years ago. Chances are that no one will remember it today when other ads are being shown to the people. 

The major reason why I should consider leaving the forum is if I start developing sight problems, where would find it a bit difficult to see very clearly as a result of long term eye exposure to the screen of phone and laptops, Therefore,  in this case I have to take a leave to take absolute care of myself.
Too is old age , I don't think if I would be very active as at that time compared to how ative I am now, which might be due to health related issues , time etc as one gets old.
Lastly is a sudden death ,God forbid as I do not pray for that ,so a sudden death will Automatically exit me from the forum.
 

Thank you thank you!

I agree to some extent. I think it really depends on the nature of the post. Posts containing projects, code, information generally will be valued either from a community perspective, or SEO, regardless of the time since post.

However, I do think the vast majority of posts not adding value do unintentionally diminish those quality posts.

the reason may be if no one else is active in this forum and that's when I will also leave this forum. because it is impossible for me to discuss alone without the other members.  ;D

Something that is not listed in the poll and has occurred to me in 2018, which is disappointment about Bitcoin or in lack of interest in general. After 2018's market crash, I was so disappointed that I abandoned Bitcoin and the forum altogether. It took me over 3 years to login and start posting again. I rejoined the forum in 2021 and have been active ever since.

Welcome back!  I don't recognize your username, but you probably post in sections I don't regularly visit.

You're absolutely right that the decline in quality began with the inception of signature campaigns.  I wasn't a member when they came about, but I've done enough reading through very old threads and it's very obvious that there's a cause-effect relationship there, though I think things have improved since the merit system started.  Campaigns and bounties certainly still drive members to post crap they wouldn't normally do if there weren't a financial incentive, but account farming has been cut down dramatically and there aren't as many brand new accounts all over the place posting one-liners.

Huh.  Bitcoin's price never affected my affection for this forum, which is like an intersectional infectionism in my hare-brained noggin, if you know what I'm saying (which you probably don't).  That's kind of strange when I think about it, because when I registered I wasn't completely convinced bitcoin was here to stay.  Now that there's no doubt in my mind about that, it doesn't matter what the market does from month-to-month, as I'm convinced that bad times are just masking an overall upward trend. 

The crash that we are experiencing in the last month or two could be called equally disappointing, but you are still here. It's good that you changed and learned a few things. In fact, Bitcoin just had the worst month in its history when the coin lost 40% of its value within 30 days. But the BTC value doesn't change what Bitcoin is and what it is capable of doing.

For me, I don't think there is any reason that could stop me from continuing to be a member of this forum, because this forum has actually helped me understand Bitcoin in a way I would have never if only I relied on articles written online. And we have got experts always available to offer solutions to your crypto difficulties at all times, but there are some reasons which is beyond our control, and if it happens it might eventually stop me from coming to this forum, and they are as follows...

1. If Bitcoin no longer has value again ($0.00)

2. If I get ban from the forum

3. If age, family, life, and/or personal problems prevent me from being active.

4. If the administrators removed/banned signature campaigns.

5. And please, I will like to beg, please give Nigerians our Local board, so we could effectively communicate. Thanks 🙏

I came back here after 2018, I was really fascinated and curious by the technology of blockchain and bitcoin itself. bitcointalk is the only forum where i can get to know more from the like minded people.

I was totaly focused on my studies.

Now after four years, its  2022, now i am active here again.

Two things would make me leave the forum if they happen.

1. If bitcoin fails, I will definitely not be here anymore. I have trust in bitcoin and I have started to teach my family and friends about it as the future of finance. If bitcoin fails and eventually this forum still exists, I would not be able to visit here again. Here would definitely be reminding me of the failed bitcoin and I would find it difficult to move on.

2. If I am accused of what I didn't do and eventually got tagged for an offence I didn't commit. I would consider to quit the forum.
I think this will not happen, because people that tags always do so with proven reasons. It is just my fear.

To be honest, not exactly. I wasn't that attached to Bitcoin back then, nor did I believe in its capabilities, and that was my ultimate mistake. If I hadn't given up, even if I was in the lowest paying campaign, within those 3 years I was away, I'd certainly have made a couple of thousands, since Bitcoin skyrocketed again near the end of 2020. It's the mistake I regret the most, because in 2018, I had some knowledge about cryptocurrencies and the capability of purchasing, something that I didn't have as a 15-year-old teenager in 2014, which was my year of registration on Bitcointalk.

I'm determined that I'm not going to quit again, not planning on repeating the same mistake again. I've set a few goals regarding Bitcoin in 2022, I'm hoping to accomplish them.

Two reason why I leave this forum. First is getting banned I will leave if I got banned and second thing is when I am in serious illness in real life and I need to rest in order to be better but if not then no reason why I leave here. All I need to know about crypto is in here. This is my second school that many teachers who teach a lot for everyone to learn more and more. And also I got friends through here in real life.

yeah it is a second school, and definitly legendry people here enlighten you whenever require