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Today i created the thread in bitcoin discussion Elon MusK Bullish again for bitcoin ? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5341961.0) in which i discussed about the profile picture which was changed to "bitcoin".
Later i found it was moved to Off-topic and then i realized that a lot of threads which contain Elon Musk name in the title were moved to Off-topic.
Are mods moving all these Elon Musk stuff to off-topic ?

Honestly speaking, I am happy to know that the mods are moving Elon Musk related topics to off-topic section. They should be doing it since the day it started popping up one after another Elon topics.

I would suggest all Elon interested users to make their conversation in the Wall Observer thread. It fits better there than to have it in the bitcoin discussion section.

Perhaps you need to register Elontalk.org or recognise people don't care about random investors (especially when there are a lot of topics on the same or similar things).

The guys got a social media addiction, you've got to expect the forum to not want actual newbie discussions being polluted by a bunch of evangelists. Perhaps you could take your discussions on twitter directly there or comment on someone else's topic with your info.

If people stop spending time with his barking for sure he'll nap like his own fav coin in the corner. I just wonder if this one got a difference? I think that's more better since to be honest he's clearly not on the point now if he talks about crypto or Bitcoin.

It's time to start completely ignoring all of Elon's attacks. Today I also read your topic about changing the avatar. And as I wrote in my post, there is no need to be like a crowd of rams who blindly follow any mood of this person. It would be nice to add his name to the filter of words that will be tracked by the forum, and when the name is mentioned, the posts could be automatically deleted.

Who cares about what Elon Musk says?
You are the people who make it look like he's the controlling Bitcoin price movements.

I am glad the mods did the right thing. That's where all the spam topics talking about him belong or better still, just head over to twitter. It gets so annoying, people posting about the same thing over and over again, yet we don't care about the subject anymore.

Bravo!  

That's a good move by mods and I'm glad to know it, all topics mentioned on this Twitter social media influencer name (***) should be deserved to move on that off-topic board (much better if mods will auto-delete) and not on the Bitcoin discussion board.  It seems all sections here on the forum was mentioned his name and I think we helped him to be more well known in that way.  It's time to include his name on our ignore list and even mentioning his name I didn't do it.

These days, I saw spamming his name in all topics especially on the Bitcoin discussion board which is I avoided interfering since he started giving a shit into Bitcoin.  He is anti-Bitcoin now and he does not have a place to discuss it here.

I think it would be acceptable to have one "Celebrity tweet effect on Bitcoin" megathread in Bitcoin Discussion or Speculation but OTOH... Elon clearly doesn't care much about Bitcoin other than to troll it so what's the point of giving him a platform here. And it's not like the threads are deleted. Off Topic board is great for flat earthers and nocoiners.

Compilation of the most interesting part of the replies to create a new message without distorting "much" the real spirit of the posts. I loved Elon's barking BTW. Sometimes dogs' barking are more entertaining than Elon's one.

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Can I recommend Other/archival/obsolete (celebrities)?

Well, no one is discussing on the personality of Elon Musk or any other off-topic stuff related to his personal life. People are trying to discuss the price action of bitcoin and try to find if the cause of bitcoin pump/dump was because of certain news/tweet.  



Why not then close the bitcoin discussion section as everything which is discussed on the bitcoin discussion board can be fitted in the WO thread  ::)

Mods are on the right track we are sick and tired of Elon on every board.

I thought I was the only one who got tired reading about Elon this Elon that all day long, Elon musk is a cheat and shouldn't be mention in the same sentence with bitcoin, every Elon musk related discussion should be moved to the Altcoin board or somewhere irrelevant.

I'd acknowledge if we had a thread where users could discuss detailly for every shitty tweet they read, but not a new thread every day... I mean, since Tesla put $1.5B to Bitcoin, Elon is the trend of the Bitcoin Discussion board.

Maybe a “Tweet Observer” thread should be created in Speculation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=57.0).

Very sad to hear your post got disposed.  :-\
It's not right to dispose discussions of Elon Musk to off-topic because off-topic should be really stay a shithole for all non-crypto stuff like:

- I was hurt by a bee, what to do now?
- How to cook chicken dinner?
- Asia is a great place to travel, where would you go in Japan?
- My gold fish looks sad, what can I do?
...

If it has any relation to crypto, it should be assigned to an appropriate crypto section. Bitcointalk needs more crypto discussions.

Incessant discussions about Elon musk and whatever his tweets say is as well "non-crypto stuff" if you ask me, and the thing is even if it is related to crypto in one way or another, when too many threads on the same issue keep appearing, then it's more than needed and thus can be moved to the off-topic board.

I'm pretty sure the mods didn't move every single topic about Elon, including the ones made early enough when his tweet was still fresh to the off-topic board, but rather it's the new threads on the subject that are being moved, what that basically means is that if anyone still wants to talk about Elon and his tweets, there are more than enough topics to do so and thus no need to create more of them.

I fully support moderators decision and all Elon Musk thread should be moved to off-topic because man is boring and topic has nothing to do with Bitcoin after we have hundreds of Elon topics.

Not every topic that mentions Bitcoin in it should be entertained in Bitcoin discussion area. Otherwise, we will end up seeing topics like "Bitcoin price spikes after Elon Musk tweets himself jerking off"

How does such nonsense affect the development of the Bitcoin ecosystem?

One of the stickies is even quite clear about this;

That's quite a reach to try and prove your point. A quick glance through the first page of the Bitcoin discussion boards is not wild speculations, so majority of the threads actually belong there. Elon musk's tweet discussions are usually about how he effects the price of cryptocurrencies, so they would fit in the WO thread, off topic is also a good destination or speculation board.

Bitcoin Twitter on bitcointalk? That would be a fun party, but with very little actual useful content. Investors should stop paying attention to influencers, but rather to their investments.

Due to the above part of the thread the OP created, I think it would be most appropriate for the thread to be in economics --> speculation. There are probably a few other Elon Musk threads moved to off topic that probably should be in speculation.

With that being said, a lot of the threads are either low value, or duplicative. IMO, there should be a single megathread, perhaps in speculation to talk about Elon Musk, and bitcoin/bitcoin's price

I myself don't care one whit about "random investors".  However, it's hard to argue that Elon Musk's comments weren't worth talking about in the context of bitcoin (and dogecoin for that matter).  I agree that there were way too many threads about him, but I don't think they all should have been moved to Off-Topic--the ones I saw here and there were focused on his influence on bitcoin, which is a real thing whether you like it or not.

But hey, let the mods do what they want to do as long as it's not something egregiously unreasonable, which this wasn't. 

Is the concern here that posts made in the Off-Topic section don't count toward signature campaign earnings?  OP is in the 777Coin campaign, so I'm assuming that might at least be part of why he's complaining about this.

Ever since I got registered into this forum, I have read several topics talking about elon musk and this took me me extra time to browse to know more about him. After my research about elon musk I got to know for several topics carrying him is wrong because the forum is design for purpose of bitcoin and other altcoin and not wasting time reading what will not contribute to growth of the  forum and members ideology. I am not surprise to hear the topic is moved out to another platform.

your Elon Musk Twitter thread isn't the only one that has been moved to the off-topic board, so it is not surprising that Elon Musk threads being moved to the off-topic board.

probably the best way to do it. so there won't be a new thread every time a celebrity or Elon Musk made a comment about BTC or cryptocurrency in general.

Is it possible that i can move this thread again to economics --> speculation section which seems more appropriate  then the Off-topic section.

Since mods have moved it to off-topic already, moving it again to another section will be a breach of any rule or come in any violations of the forum ?

Can we, in all sincerity, say he hasn't been successfully doing that? Come on, even if we hate his guts we should at least admit his influence. At least, this moment he holds that influence on Bitcoin. The influence may fade out with time but he has it ATM.

As for moving Elon Musk's topics to Off topic, I think it's a good call because of the preponderance of such discussions which tend to give more time to the serial investor with penchant for doublespeak. Perhaps, the mods moving them will reduce the urge for posters to create more topics on Elon this, Elon that.

Great, for few days I thought this forum is about Elon and in the parallel universe he is the owner of this forum.  ;D
This was good move by mods for sure. Unlike the COVID mega threads which we saw late in 2020, it's no surprise similar stuff started happening with Elon tweets and his threads. So thats good clean up.

No wonder EM mania has become very irritating to some, and every thread that comes up with his name is sure to be reported by at least 5-10 different users - which then leaves the moderators too little room except to send a clear message that such topics have a place in off-topic. While some things should not be ignored, people should refrain from duplicating and repeating the same things over and over again.

That rich prick is, after all, just a man who doesn't deserve our attention to the extent he's currently being given - my avatar says it all ;)

^^ This!
A moderator probably wouldn't have reacted if there were one or two threads. The issue arose when several new topics appeared after each of Musk's tweets. This caused many members to get annoyed, and many of them started reporting these posts to moderators.

I fully support the decision. What's more, merging all threads into a single megathread is a good idea.

I thought some of the originals remained? No one mentioned about them being moved during the crash, those were probably still there.

The other issue is where the topic is placed, economics and speculation boards don't seem as busy as bitcoin discussion or b&h. It was more reasonable for topics to be moved if there was 4 topics in a row on it for example. 1 per 10 new topics might still be a bit much for that section.


Yeah I think it was the sheer number of newbies making topics on the same thing that roused the mods to try to counteract it.

We might need something more responsive (like a protocol) for handling discussions that rise that people might want to make many posts about (a forum wide idea for how to deal with these in the future - eg producing a megathread after a certain number of posts on a topic).

Topics about tweets of Elon Musk are abundant, toxic and trashy. They need to be moved to trash can if not Off topic.

Moderators are not responsible to protect Bitcoin but those topics only result in panic or fomo and with their abundance, they should be trashed.

People talk about Elon in Bitcoin discussion or altcoin discussion boards but you nearly can not find Elon in Wall Observer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.578560). It you want to discuss about Bitcoin, join that topic and skip your mind free from Elon.

I don't know why you claim that WO is free from EM - because if you use that thread search you can find posts that mention it even in 2013. If you don’t believe it, here are a few examples that prove that it has spread like a virus on the forum.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg57168733#msg57168733
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg57169088#msg57169088
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg57166756#msg57166756
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg57164720#msg57164720
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg57162844#msg57162844
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg57161651#msg57161651
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg57161677#msg57161677

In fact, it is rare that a page can be found that does not have at least one post about EM or Tesla.

maybe this is a wise move, which was taken by the moderator, as the forum members here said, too many posts about Elon Musk which incidentally are the same so that in the end the post is off topic
I tried to look at some of the links above, and I got some that were intensive, the answer is the same, namely trying to fight and not believe the opinion statements that are trending in social media circles about Elon Musk

I did not say people don't discuss about Elon in Wall Observer topic. I used nearly can not find.

What I wanted to point out is posters in Wall Observer topic are more knowledgeable and are not obsessed with Elon's tweets. They can feel interesting or uncertain or even fear or panic. But the severity of non sense discussions about Elon is much less.

I've shown you in obvious examples that this is not the case, EM is a very common topic in WO - but you can't compare a Bitcoin Discussion board to a single thread. If you open a BD board you will almost certainly see the name EM in one of the titles, but if you take an average of 10-15 pages in WO per day, at least a third will contain something related to EM/Tesla. I would therefore say that "nearly can not find" depends on who is looking and in what way.

Before I knew about Bitcointalk.org, I already knew cryptocurrency and started making some investments. Suddenly, I started seeing Elon Musk tweets promoting cryptocurrencies like Dodge and BTC. I was amazed to the extent I started reasoning that Elon Musk could be Satoshi. Especially when he accepted BTC for Tesla products.
Not quite long his counter tweets and reversal of the BTC payment method came.
It was at this stage that I joined this forum. I was actually looking for a topic I can discuss under. I was seeing Elon Musk everywhere which almost validated my thought of Elon to-be Satoshi. When I wasn't seeing the posts and started reading comment I began to understand that Elon is not our very good friend.
It therefore means discussing him here regularly will give him an undeserved accolade for the fortune or misfortune of BTC.