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Title: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: robelneo on June 19, 2021, 10:33:10 PM
In a big turn of events, Casimero is not going to fight Rogondeaux anymore it will be an all Filipino match up

Donaire Versus Casimero

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The Casimero-Rigondeaux matchup was quality but Donaire-Casimero, which will be televised live on Showtime from a site that has yet to be announced (the Dignity Health Sports Park in Carson, California is the likely venue), is a better bantamweight showdown as both Filipinos are aggressive boxer-punchers.

Rigondeaux will be in a position to face the winner.

Who do you think will have the edge? and will Unify the Bantamweight Title

https://www.ringtv.com/623186-nonito-donaire-replaces-guillermo-rigondeaux-to-make-john-riel-casimero-title-unification-fight/


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Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: dunfida on June 19, 2021, 11:15:57 PM
In terms of winning I'll go for Donaire but I saw the previous records of Casimero and it's a match for a great boxer like Donaire but I will give a chance to the pioneering boxer which is Casimero. I like them both as a fighter they have their own aces on how to flip the whole game.

I think the odds here would favor to Donaire but I will for Casimero no matter what the odds. It's just I have a feeling that this fighter will give a good fight show to their Filipino people.

Rigondeaux camp must have seen something to his opponent that dramatically replace it with Donaire instead. Although, Donaire is an old time champion I won't be going easy if it is against Casimero because of how crafty this guy to manage the whole fight.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: AmoreJaz on June 19, 2021, 11:39:46 PM
In terms of winning I'll go for Donaire but I saw the previous records of Casimero and it's a match for a great boxer like Donaire but I will give a chance to the pioneering boxer which is Casimero. I like them both as a fighter they have their own aces on how to flip the whole game.

I think the odds here would favor to Donaire but I will for Casimero no matter what the odds. It's just I have a feeling that this fighter will give a good fight show to their Filipino people.

Rigondeaux camp must have seen something to his opponent that dramatically replace it with Donaire instead. Although, Donaire is an old time champion I won't be going easy if it is against Casimero because of how crafty this guy to manage the whole fight.

filipinos will be split on this fight. both are filipinos and either way, it will be good for both fighters. but i do agree that more then likely bookies will favour donaire on this match.  as donaire is just fresh from his last fight, it won't be hard for him to hit the gym again. this is interesting. if donaire can win again, he is like being in the prime of his career.
let us see what gap in the odds will be on this match...


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: aioc on June 20, 2021, 01:39:17 AM
If we are going to based on their last fights Donaire has the better one against an undefeated and champion Oubaali compared to Casimero last fought, they are both battle-tested but Donaire has regained his speed and power and he is more comfortable in the Bantamweight division and of course, he is the only who fought Inoue Inoue in a distance.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: lienfaye on June 20, 2021, 02:16:55 AM
Who do you think will have the edge? and will Unify the Bantamweight Title
Both of them are undoubtedly a great boxers but I think in this fight Donaire has more chance to win due to his previous performance that seems he's back on track to win every fight that comes on his way.

If we are going to based on their last fights Donaire has the better one against an undefeated and champion Oubaali compared to Casimero last fought, they are both battle-tested but Donaire has regained his speed and power and he is more comfortable in the Bantamweight division and of course, he is the only who fought Inoue Inoue in a distance.
Donaire's last performance is impressive thats why I think he has the edge to defeat Casimero. Anyway they're both champion and a Filipino so regardless whoever win this fight certainly filipinos are proud of them.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: btc78 on June 20, 2021, 03:03:46 AM
In terms of winning I'll go for Donaire but I saw the previous records of Casimero and it's a match for a great boxer like Donaire but I will give a chance to the pioneering boxer which is Casimero. I like them both as a fighter they have their own aces on how to flip the whole game.

I think the odds here would favor to Donaire but I will for Casimero no matter what the odds. It's just I have a feeling that this fighter will give a good fight show to their Filipino people.

Rigondeaux camp must have seen something to his opponent that dramatically replace it with Donaire instead. Although, Donaire is an old time champion I won't be going easy if it is against Casimero because of how crafty this guy to manage the whole fight.

filipinos will be split on this fight. both are filipinos and either way, it will be good for both fighters. but i do agree that more then likely bookies will favour donaire on this match.  as donaire is just fresh from his last fight, it won't be hard for him to hit the gym again. this is interesting. if donaire can win again, he is like being in the prime of his career.
let us see what gap in the odds will be on this match...
Yeah if this will take place? i will surely deny to bet even in which because they are both filipino  pride and there is no one to side here.
I love Nonito but i also Like Casimero so i guess i will not choose in any of them.

but is this really will take place? or just a poll if will be supported by the fans or now?


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Chato1977 on June 20, 2021, 03:09:41 AM
I will surely bet for Casimero here , he's younger and hungry for win and this division will be for him to take .

and besides they are both Filipino boxer so meaning even if who will win yet they will still be a Filipino Boxing Hero.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: TravelMug on June 20, 2021, 03:14:08 AM
As a Pinoy, I feel sad to see two Filipinos fighting it out, we are not using to see them fight.

But in any case, will be hard to bet on this one, both are great fighters. I still remember Casimero's interview saying goodluck and then congratulating Donaire on winning against Oubaali. And asking Donaire to let him take care of this division.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: yazher on June 20, 2021, 03:21:41 AM
Unlike Mexican boxers, we don't have such kinds of fights in the past years where both Filipino boxers will fight in the ring for a championship bout. to be honest I don't like to watch such kind of fight cause I don't know who to cheer on. there's no entertainment for me with this upcoming fight. I was looking forward to seeing the fight between Inaou and Casimero. with this turn of events, I wonder if they can even gather the courage to fight each other.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Kemarit on June 20, 2021, 03:36:41 AM
I voted for Casimero to win, I know that Donaire is great, and although he won recently, I think father time will caught on him. And he not facing just another boxing, it's another Filipino who is making a name on the division and this could end on a brutal knockout.

At least at the end of the end, it will be a Filipino that will win in the end regardless and this fight could be the passing of the torch from the Filipino flash to another great Filipino fighter.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Dave1 on June 20, 2021, 03:45:35 AM
Donaire still.

One reason is that he got a big win, knocking out his opponent. And it seems that he loves to fight and used his left hook to an opponent smaller than him, Vic D, Montiel and others. So I"m leaning him to win by knock out with that vaunted left hook of his. I do hope that they won't go soft on each other though as both are Filipinos and well respected, specially Donaire.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: smyslov on June 20, 2021, 04:16:13 AM
These are two fighters who love to engage so I expect a knockout here, but if ever they go the distance I have Donaire winning he is good technically and he paced himself very well, especially in the late rounds, if Casimero wants to win this fight he should go for a knock out in the early round, I'll go for Donaire because of his last performance against a very dangerous.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: electronicash on June 20, 2021, 04:35:07 AM

 
factoring the skills, experience, height, and reach advantage, it will be donaire that will win the match since he like to wait and counter which Casimiro always wants to be the aggressive contender to put pressure on.

does anybody think this is an exhibition fight? being a fan of both will probably make you pick draw. i will probably do that when it's listed in crypto sportsbook.



Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: kotajikikox on June 20, 2021, 04:40:43 AM
is this for real? are these Filipino Fighter will really face each others? there are many opponents there why Casimero and Donaire ? i think the Boxing community seeing the Filipino fans are still active while many countries now are losing faith in boxing anymore .

from the exhibition fights that ends up Draw? this sucks the boxing community and now losing its popularity time after time.

But still for Donaire in this fight..


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Wexnident on June 20, 2021, 05:00:19 AM
I'd go for Donaire in this one. It'd be a pretty close match imo, in both fighters are quite aggressive in their approach, and even with Casimero being younger than Donaire, I hardly doubt that'd be a factor enough to make Casimero actually win. Donaire has been going strong even with his age after all.

But hey, as others have said, who wins or loses, it'd still be a victory for the Philippines.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: bbc.reporter on June 20, 2021, 05:35:38 AM
I reckon that it might be easy to choose Nonito Donaire to win because of what he showed versus Oubaali in his old age of 38, however, John Casimero is not to be underestimated. He is a strong knock artist and he is younger.

May the best boxer win. These 2 boxers are the only 2 who are worthy to be matched versus Inoue for the unification.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: tabas on June 20, 2021, 06:50:35 AM
Both are good boxers and this match isn't going to be an easy to choose if you're going to bet on it. I won't be betting with this, I don't know how it's going to end up.
Both has the caliber but I guess the majority will choose Donaire.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Saisher on June 20, 2021, 10:16:31 AM
The hungrier fighter between the two is Casimero both have their shares of tough fights in tough situation the match is very much even and things can go either it depends on who wants the match the most, this is the first time I will watch a fight between two Filipino world titlist, may the best boxer win, I'm rooting for Donaire I also want him to beat Inoue.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Jating on June 20, 2021, 10:38:00 AM
I also wanted Donaire to win just because he will have a rematch against Inoue. And since Inoue has won against Dasmarinas, the stage will be set if Donaire will win against a tough fellow Filipino in John Riel Casimero.

In any case though, Casimero is also hot on Inoue's tail, so if ever he won as well, he will get Inoue. These Filipino dudes are tough, even at 38 years old, Donaire can spill pull the trigger, but Casimero is the young and the more hungrier.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Darker45 on June 20, 2021, 10:50:37 AM
This is surprising. I was expecting of a training-related injury on either Casimero or Rigondeaux, or even something related to COVID-19. I was really surprised the reason was a simple as Rigondeaux making way for another fighter.

It is hard to predict the winner between the two fighters. I am thinking the only way Casimero could win this match is only via UD. But I also know Casimero is very much aware of Nonito's counter-punching caliber so he probably won't just dive in and exchange punches with the new champion.

But I am expecting the odds to be heavily in favor of Donaire.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Ryker1 on June 20, 2021, 11:35:17 AM
Both are good boxers and this match isn't going to be an easy to choose if you're going to bet on it. I won't be betting with this, I don't know how it's going to end up.
Both has the caliber but I guess the majority will choose Donaire.

So far Donaire is winning in the poll I also have voted Donaire, Donaire is a more technical boxer he can score points in every round while Casimero is always going for a knockout I believe Donaire has Casimero's number, Donaire has been to a lot of great fights in his career and he has rejuvenated again after the bout with Oubaali, this is one exciting fight, it should not be missed.
Well, that is right --I am also in favor of Donaire and it looks like Casimero here is in underdog condition since Donaire has more experience in boxer fights through his previous record. But I don't think if Donaire will be able to win this fight and who is the next fighter will be a perfect match for him. Possible is Inoue but I don't think that is a perfect match for him. But let us see who will become a winner of this match, the underdog or the highest odds in bookmakers.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Ararbermas on June 20, 2021, 12:02:22 PM
Wait a minute.. If this totally legit match up, this would be the very first time to happen in the boxing history outside the philippines, such both best filipino fighters, indeed, and i never heard such information that nonito will end up like this since he wants a rematch again with the monster like he said after winning in the previous fight. So how comes it turns like this and it's like a pinoy pride match up.  ;D as the matter fact i never saw Pacquiao fight against filipino fighters outside the country..  So this is very surprising to be honest..


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Japinat on June 20, 2021, 12:04:48 PM
Casimero is on a winning streak, I'd definitely go with Casimero as he is the younger fighter. Though I admire both fighters, I believe that the young fighter will win and the recent win of Donaire does not really convince me that he can beat Inoue or Casimero in a fight.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Cling18 on June 20, 2021, 12:14:25 PM
They're actually great boxers of the same country and it's quite hard to choose since they both have a good record but as for me, I could see that Donaire has an edge here if we'll base things on his previous fights. However, it will be a tough fight for Casimero who also has a win streak. They're both preparing well for this fight because to be honest, Filipinos are too dedicated when it comes to boxing.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Russlenat on June 20, 2021, 12:23:10 PM
I can't decide on who's to bet, but I would definitely watch this fight as it's a big fight.

I'm sure the majority of you will vote for Casimero to win, but I would say, this isn't an easy fight for Casimero.
Donaire still has that killer counter punch and that hook, I don't know, it's really hard to tell right now.

maybe, the higher will the best training and discipline will win.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Zilon on June 20, 2021, 12:46:12 PM
Casimero all the way but this isn't going to be a risk free game. I call this the filipino clash.  After Nonito Donaire’s loss to Guillermo Rigondeaux i just suspect this would trigger a new tactics from Donaire that will change the face of the fight. August 14th is not too far from now but for me I go with Casimero although it's not going to be an easy fight


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: freedomgo on June 20, 2021, 01:01:47 PM
It's close voting, Casimero only leads by 1 vote, so I think this is really an exciting fight, we might not see a KO and this fight will go to the judges' scorecard. If that happens, I guess Donaire will win as he is more active, while Casimero is always looking for the right timing to kO an opponent.

I bet they already know each other's style, so they won't be too careless while they are looking for a KO.

This is very surprising actually, no one would think that both Filipino champions will fight to unify the belt.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: dimonstration on June 20, 2021, 04:27:44 PM
Casimero is on a winning streak, I'd definitely go with Casimero as he is the younger fighter. Though I admire both fighters, I believe that the young fighter will win and the recent win of Donaire does not really convince me that he can beat Inoue or Casimero in a fight.
The fact that Donaire were still on match and known already in boxing means he has something to prove,it will definitely be a must watch fight that will determined their capability to match with other players  even  though its surprising that same nationality will be fighting. Whoever wins will deserve the title as they both already make their country proud and hopefully they be able to provide a thrilling and exciting match.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: harizen on June 20, 2021, 08:11:21 PM
is this for real? are these Filipino Fighter will really face each others? there are many opponents there why Casimero and Donaire ? i think the Boxing community seeing the Filipino fans are still active while many countries now are losing faith in boxing anymore .

from the exhibition fights that ends up Draw? this sucks the boxing community and now losing its popularity time after time.

I don't know on what part does it tell you that many countries are now losing faith in boxing. Try to read the link posted on the main post. It's not how you think.

Rigondeaux, the supposed opponent of Dasmarinas on August 14 is stepping aside to allow for a bantamweight title unification between Donaire and Casimero.

It's not that surprising in general but that just becomes a talk of a town because it's rare to see both top PH boxers face each other.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: bL4nkcode on June 20, 2021, 08:53:53 PM
This is very surprising actually, no one would think that both Filipino champions will fight to unify the belt.
Indeed, it's rare fight, this might be the very first time to see both Filipino boxers to fight each other in world championship.

For this fight, donaire has the advantage, from the reach, height, experience and that brutal left hook but casimero always surprise me in every fight, this must be interesting.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Japinat on June 20, 2021, 09:04:14 PM
This is very surprising actually, no one would think that both Filipino champions will fight to unify the belt.
Indeed, it's rare fight, this might be the very first time to see both Filipino boxers to fight each other in world championship.

For this fight, donaire has the advantage, from the reach, height, experience and that brutal left hook but casimero always surprise me in every fight, this must be interesting.

But Donaire is old, casimero is young.  ;D

It could be the height but we have to remember that Casimero beat Zolani Tete, a champion and I think Taller than Donaire.

We have a mixed prediction here, and it's nice to see that as that means we believe in both fighters' capacity to win.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: freedomgo on June 20, 2021, 09:26:37 PM
This is very surprising actually, no one would think that both Filipino champions will fight to unify the belt.
Indeed, it's rare fight, this might be the very first time to see both Filipino boxers to fight each other in world championship.

For this fight, donaire has the advantage, from the reach, height, experience and that brutal left hook but casimero always surprise me in every fight, this must be interesting.

But Donaire is old, casimero is young.  ;D

It could be the height but we have to remember that Casimero beat Zolani Tete, a champion and I think Taller than Donaire.

We have a mixed prediction here, and it's nice to see that as that means we believe in both fighters' capacity to win.

Age doesn't matter I guess. lol. We have the same thoughts when Donaire was fighting Oubaali but we still see that signature left hook of him that made Oubaali suffered in that fight. Respect both fighters as they would not be here now if they are not working hard, but whoever wins, I'd be okay with that and will just put a little bet on this particular fight.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: ReiMomo on June 20, 2021, 09:37:08 PM
This is very surprising actually, no one would think that both Filipino champions will fight to unify the belt.
Indeed, it's rare fight, this might be the very first time to see both Filipino boxers to fight each other in world championship.

For this fight, donaire has the advantage, from the reach, height, experience and that brutal left hook but casimero always surprise me in every fight, this must be interesting.

But Donaire is old, casimero is young.  ;D

It could be the height but we have to remember that Casimero beat Zolani Tete, a champion and I think Taller than Donaire.

We have a mixed prediction here, and it's nice to see that as that means we believe in both fighters' capacity to win.

Age doesn't matter I guess. lol. We have the same thoughts when Donaire was fighting Oubaali but we still see that signature left hook of him that made Oubaali suffered in that fight. Respect both fighters as they would not be here now if they are not working hard, but whoever wins, I'd be okay with that and will just put a little bet on this particular fight.
I think that's right, age doesn't matter at all but IO usually prefers on the number of matches and experience. I guess Donaire here will win since he s technically more experienced than his opponent. It is really hard to predict which one will win and my bet here is Donaire and it looks like in all stats here is advantage than his opponent and I guess this pretty good for him.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on June 21, 2021, 04:22:42 AM
This is very surprising actually, no one would think that both Filipino champions will fight to unify the belt.
Indeed, it's rare fight, this might be the very first time to see both Filipino boxers to fight each other in world championship.

For this fight, donaire has the advantage, from the reach, height, experience and that brutal left hook but casimero always surprise me in every fight, this must be interesting.

But Donaire is old, casimero is young.  ;D

It could be the height but we have to remember that Casimero beat Zolani Tete, a champion and I think Taller than Donaire.

We have a mixed prediction here, and it's nice to see that as that means we believe in both fighters' capacity to win.
Yes, I see that there is a mix prediction, meaning that this fight is going to be close, I will not be surprised if this go to distance and each fighter will have it's time in the ring.

Maybe Donaire is old but he can throw his left hook and with perfect timing, while Casimero is really becoming one of the best in the division and really trash talking Inoue and Naoya has responded. So that is a good fight too as there could be bad blood between the two already. Donaire vs Inoue or Casimero vs Inoue will be one hell of a fight. Can't decide though between these two Filipinos.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: robelneo on June 21, 2021, 04:32:02 AM


Age doesn't matter I guess. lol. We have the same thoughts when Donaire was fighting Oubaali but we still see that signature left hook of him that made Oubaali suffered in that fight. Respect both fighters as they would not be here now if they are not working hard, but whoever wins, I'd be okay with that and will just put a little bet on this particular fight.

The Oubaali fight is a very surprising fight considering that Oubaali was undefeated and never been knockdown, but he schooled him and embarrassed him by knocking him out, if Donaire can come out with another performance like that Casimero is going to be in trouble I see a rejuvenated Donaire now he is my favorite now because of his last performance, he really turn back the hands of time.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Lorence.xD on June 21, 2021, 05:48:57 AM
What's the reason why it became an all Filipino match up? I am not gonna lie, I am pretty sure that Filipino fans are utterly divided right now because it's an all Filipino match. I would go for Donaire though as the Oubaali match up was a pretty good show of power for Donaire.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: YOSHIE on June 21, 2021, 07:24:50 AM
One won the WBO champion and the other won the WBC champion, these two bettors have perfect strength, both are from the Philippines, for now the Philippines has a good reputation in the world boxing championship, I recognize the Filipino boxer athlete who has the fastest punch to beat his opponent.

Who do you think will have the edge? and will Unify the Bantamweight Title
If I may be honest in the match between Donaire Vs. Casimero.
And from the experience that I have seen boxers from the Philippines, my belief is that the champion this time is won by Donaire, of course, there are reasons for me to choose Donaire, the simple reason is: Of the many Filipino boxers besides Pacquiao, Donaire is one of the boxing athletes who was selected in the world event in four heavyweight championships, this proves that Donaire has good potential in winning the championship this time, except: there are other elements that we don't know yet because they are both from the Philippines.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: yazher on June 21, 2021, 07:47:36 AM
What's the reason why it became an all Filipino match up? I am not gonna lie, I am pretty sure that Filipino fans are utterly divided right now because it's an all Filipino match. I would go for Donaire though as the Oubaali match up was a pretty good show of power for Donaire.

I don't really think this fight is a good idea for both of them. Maybe because the fight is mandatory as well they are both on the same weight category and also the same in rank. However, this will gonna confuse our countrymen for whom they will gonna cheer on this time. both are favorites fighters but they need to fight for their own glory and records.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: carlisle1 on June 21, 2021, 07:51:41 AM
This is very surprising actually, no one would think that both Filipino champions will fight to unify the belt.
Indeed, it's rare fight, this might be the very first time to see both Filipino boxers to fight each other in world championship.

For this fight, donaire has the advantage, from the reach, height, experience and that brutal left hook but casimero always surprise me in every fight, this must be interesting.

But Donaire is old, casimero is young.  ;D

It could be the height but we have to remember that Casimero beat Zolani Tete, a champion and I think Taller than Donaire.

We have a mixed prediction here, and it's nice to see that as that means we believe in both fighters' capacity to win.

That's also a good one to consider, Casimero can beat taller opponent if we consider that as an advantage for Donaire the good catch here is both fighters are really competitive, the fighting skills are both great and as a pride they've already bring that glory to the country.

I'm an old timer so for me Donaire may take this one, just a personal opinion  ;). from both ends Filipinos are the winners from this fight.

I remember the words " Kampihan na!"


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Lorence.xD on June 21, 2021, 07:59:39 AM
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I don't really think this fight is a good idea for both of them. Maybe because the fight is mandatory as well they are both on the same weight category and also the same in rank. However, this will gonna confuse our countrymen for whom they will gonna cheer on this time. both are favorites fighters but they need to fight for their own glory and records.
I think the people that will be confused is probably the type of fans that don't consider their favorite a loser even though they are utterly defeated. No matter what, they have to choose who to side.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: LogitechMouse on June 21, 2021, 10:38:11 AM
Seeing 2 Filipinos to fight isn't a common thing for us. For me, this is the first time that I saw 2 Filipino fighters fighting in the ring at least with the same popularity as them.

The winner of the match will fight Inoue who got a marvelous 3rd round stoppage against another Filipino, Michael Dasmarinas. I want to win Donaire here because I want to see a rematch between him and Inoue but it seems like he doesn't have the speed that he has in his younger days at least for me but still, its hard to predict who will be the winner here knowing that both of them are really good fighters.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: AicecreaME on June 21, 2021, 10:49:00 AM
I'll go for Donaire, not because he's a fellow Filipino but because his punch power is insane. I watched all of his matches and most of it are all win by knockouts. I can't compare him to Pacquiao's punch, but they could be the same with a little bit practice and experience. This fight is exciting as well as Pacquiao's incoming match this August.

I guess me and my cousins will have a friendly gambling competition on betting on which of the player is gonna win.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: nitrobetting on June 21, 2021, 11:50:52 AM
I'm not surprised they went for the unification match as boxing is a business and it will be better for more revenue. It'll be interesting to see Casimero win because I want to see what he can do next and hopefully this will clear the way for Inoue. But Donaire is a veteran and will not go down lightly. It's going to be a tough fight for Donaire as well just because he's battling father time and wants to be undisputed. Respect for both fighters, it's going to be a good one.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: mirakal on June 21, 2021, 12:45:14 PM
I'm not surprised they went for the unification match as boxing is a business and it will be better for more revenue. It'll be interesting to see Casimero win because I want to see what he can do next and hopefully this will clear the way for Inoue. But Donaire is a veteran and will not go down lightly. It's going to be a tough fight for Donaire as well just because he's battling father time and wants to be undisputed. Respect for both fighters, it's going to be a good one.

We haven't seen this kind of fight before, I know it's necessary but the big question is, can it generate big money? One of the reasons why a fight is successful is if the fighters have different races, and knowing that the Philippines is a small country, will the Americans or Mexicans watch this fight?


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Yamifoud on June 21, 2021, 12:54:25 PM
I'm not surprised they went for the unification match as boxing is a business and it will be better for more revenue. It'll be interesting to see Casimero win because I want to see what he can do next and hopefully this will clear the way for Inoue. But Donaire is a veteran and will not go down lightly. It's going to be a tough fight for Donaire as well just because he's battling father time and wants to be undisputed. Respect for both fighters, it's going to be a good one.

We haven't seen this kind of fight before, I know it's necessary but the big question is, can it generate big money?
This is a unification fight, it's a championship fight, no way it will not generate big money although both fighters are Filipino.
Usually, a big event like this is held in the US and there's a big market in the US, so definitely it's a success.

One of the reasons why a fight is successful is if the fighters have different races, and knowing that the Philippines is a small country, will the Americans or Mexicans watch this fight?
Not only those two races, but we also have other races that will be interested in watching the fight, and, we also have to consider the PPV which is available all over the world.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: freedomgo on June 21, 2021, 02:04:09 PM
I'll go for Donaire, not because he's a fellow Filipino but because his punch power is insane. I watched all of his matches and most of it are all win by knockouts. I can't compare him to Pacquiao's punch, but they could be the same with a little bit practice and experience. This fight is exciting as well as Pacquiao's incoming match this August.

I guess me and my cousins will have a friendly gambling competition on betting on which of the player is gonna win.

Regarding their punches, both boxers have good record of KOs. Donaire is a bit more experienced in the ring but this is counterbalanced  by  Casimero's  craving to fight for respect. Both boxers are  Filipinos champions and this has to  make the fight  particularly fierce. Providing the judges were stay not biased  I would bet on Casimero.

Both are KO artists, and we all agree to that. Here are their respective records.

Nonito Donaire - 27 KOs of 41 wins. 65.85 % KO RATE
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/48243

John Riel Casimero - 21 KOS of 30 wins  70% KO RATE
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/421916

As we can see the comparison, Casimero has a high KO rate but it was actually Donaire who has more championship fights experience.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: carlfebz2 on June 21, 2021, 07:57:01 PM
Im going for Donaire on this fight even though Casimero is good but when it comes to technicalities and experience then Donaire does have the advantage.

We know that he's much more experience than with Casimero and when it comes to speed and counterpunching then this is his edge over Casimero
and i dont know if Casimero would able to cope up with that.

Neither both of this Filipino fighters would win this fight should be the one to fight with Inoue which had just recently humiliated Dasmarinas like a puppy.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Beparanf on June 21, 2021, 08:08:45 PM
I'm not surprised they went for the unification match as boxing is a business and it will be better for more revenue. It'll be interesting to see Casimero win because I want to see what he can do next and hopefully this will clear the way for Inoue. But Donaire is a veteran and will not go down lightly. It's going to be a tough fight for Donaire as well just because he's battling father time and wants to be undisputed. Respect for both fighters, it's going to be a good one.

We haven't seen this kind of fight before, I know it's necessary but the big question is, can it generate big money? One of the reasons why a fight is successful is if the fighters have different races, and knowing that the Philippines is a small country, will the Americans or Mexicans watch this fight?

Race is not an issue on this fight ticket sale. Remember that there's a lot of boxing fans out there that's supporting not there own race. Plus the boxer fighting is both a champion so it's enough to make this match still worthy watch no matter is your race.

This match is gonna be flashy and intense. Both fighter is hungry for this title unification match so they will not give up easily no matter what happens.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Japinat on June 21, 2021, 08:24:23 PM
I'm not surprised they went for the unification match as boxing is a business and it will be better for more revenue. It'll be interesting to see Casimero win because I want to see what he can do next and hopefully this will clear the way for Inoue. But Donaire is a veteran and will not go down lightly. It's going to be a tough fight for Donaire as well just because he's battling father time and wants to be undisputed. Respect for both fighters, it's going to be a good one.

We haven't seen this kind of fight before, I know it's necessary but the big question is, can it generate big money? One of the reasons why a fight is successful is if the fighters have different races, and knowing that the Philippines is a small country, will the Americans or Mexicans watch this fight?

Race is not an issue on this fight ticket sale. Remember that there's a lot of boxing fans out there that's supporting not there own race. Plus the boxer fighting is both a champion so it's enough to make this match still worthy watch no matter is your race.

This match is gonna be flashy and intense. Both fighter is hungry for this title unification match so they will not give up easily no matter what happens.

I'm sure Inoue would wish that Donaire would beat Casimero as Donaire is an easy opponent for him, it would be easy for him to get all the belt and be the undisputed champion in the bantamweight division. I forgot, we still have Rigondeaux who is also holding a belt in the Bantam Weight division. https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/492989


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: DU18 on June 21, 2021, 08:31:07 PM
this fight is like a fight that smells national, and as a boxing connoisseur, of course this kind of fight is not what I am waiting for, to be honest I might miss a fight where both participants are from one country, I think the Philippines is an Asian country that produces there are many boxers in the world and of course it will be very interesting when Asian boxers can fight boxers from western and Latin American countries, that's why I prefer to see Casemiro face Cuban beating specialist Guillermo Rigondo.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Oasisman on June 21, 2021, 08:40:25 PM
I'm not surprised they went for the unification match as boxing is a business and it will be better for more revenue. It'll be interesting to see Casimero win because I want to see what he can do next and hopefully this will clear the way for Inoue. But Donaire is a veteran and will not go down lightly. It's going to be a tough fight for Donaire as well just because he's battling father time and wants to be undisputed. Respect for both fighters, it's going to be a good one.

We haven't seen this kind of fight before, I know it's necessary but the big question is, can it generate big money? One of the reasons why a fight is successful is if the fighters have different races, and knowing that the Philippines is a small country, will the Americans or Mexicans watch this fight?

If someone is a real boxing fan, they will probably watch this never seen before fight between these two Filipino superstars.
The Casimero - Rigondeaux fight might be boring to watch, but not this one for sure. We have seen Donaire fight many times and he's an exciting fighter to watch with his speed, power, and agility. Same thing goes to Casimero which is still at his prime hungry for more wins.
Selling tickets is not gonna be a problem I think. Because of the Covid safety protocols the events arena might limit the number of people in attendance. So, I guess they'll going to sell all of them anyway.
And also, they're not going to make this fight If it wouldn't sell enough.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: stomachgrowls on June 21, 2021, 08:54:20 PM
I'm not surprised they went for the unification match as boxing is a business and it will be better for more revenue. It'll be interesting to see Casimero win because I want to see what he can do next and hopefully this will clear the way for Inoue. But Donaire is a veteran and will not go down lightly. It's going to be a tough fight for Donaire as well just because he's battling father time and wants to be undisputed. Respect for both fighters, it's going to be a good one.

We haven't seen this kind of fight before, I know it's necessary but the big question is, can it generate big money? One of the reasons why a fight is successful is if the fighters have different races, and knowing that the Philippines is a small country, will the Americans or Mexicans watch this fight?

If someone is a real boxing fan, they will probably watch this never seen before fight between these two Filipino superstars.
The Casimero - Rigondeaux fight might be boring to watch, but not this one for sure. We have seen Donaire fight many times and he's an exciting fighter to watch with his speed, power, and agility. Same thing goes to Casimero which is still at his prime hungry for more wins.
Selling tickets is not gonna be a problem I think. Because of the Covid safety protocols the events arena might limit the number of people in attendance. So, I guess they'll going to sell all of them anyway.
And also, they're not going to make this fight If it wouldn't sell enough.
They wont really be making or do set-up fights if the association itself would see that they wont really be selling out tickets or PPV's on a certain fight.

They would really be making ways that they could generate revenue as much as they can and this both fighters would surely do the job.

It is just way too impossible that this two isnt known and i would definitely be like to see Casimero-Donaire even though both does have same nationality
but the action and entertainment that it would give is what i've been looking for.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: freedomgo on June 21, 2021, 09:03:21 PM
I'm not surprised they went for the unification match as boxing is a business and it will be better for more revenue. It'll be interesting to see Casimero win because I want to see what he can do next and hopefully this will clear the way for Inoue. But Donaire is a veteran and will not go down lightly. It's going to be a tough fight for Donaire as well just because he's battling father time and wants to be undisputed. Respect for both fighters, it's going to be a good one.

We haven't seen this kind of fight before, I know it's necessary but the big question is, can it generate big money? One of the reasons why a fight is successful is if the fighters have different races, and knowing that the Philippines is a small country, will the Americans or Mexicans watch this fight?

If someone is a real boxing fan, they will probably watch this never seen before fight between these two Filipino superstars.
The Casimero - Rigondeaux fight might be boring to watch, but not this one for sure. We have seen Donaire fight many times and he's an exciting fighter to watch with his speed, power, and agility. Same thing goes to Casimero which is still at his prime hungry for more wins.
Selling tickets is not gonna be a problem I think. Because of the Covid safety protocols the events arena might limit the number of people in attendance. So, I guess they'll going to sell all of them anyway.


If it's held in the USA then I don't see a problem with a crowd to watch the fight, if you ever see the NBA playoffs now, I remember the Clippers had at least 18k attendance during the game 7 against the Jazz. So, I guess, this boxing fight will attract the crowd to watch it live, and those who cannot make it will just have to buy their PPV subscription.


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And also, they're not going to make this fight If it wouldn't sell enough.

That's the logic.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: harizen on June 21, 2021, 11:16:51 PM
What's the reason why it became an all Filipino match up? I am not gonna lie, I am pretty sure that Filipino fans are utterly divided right now because it's an all Filipino match.

Read the posted news on the main post.

And no, how would PH fans will be divided if, in the end, it's still the same Filipino who will win. Boxing enthusiasts are already aware that it's always possible to happen.

Either way, Donaire and Casimero will still face each other if they will win their respective matches. It's a thing that they can be avoided if they will be both on a winning streak and within the same weight class.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: goinmerry on June 21, 2021, 11:46:17 PM
This fight will push through and I'm sure the next match either of this one is against Inoue again.

That fight will not be a shortcut to Naoya Inoue who just recently won.

Whoever will win, they will face Nordine Ouballi first. That was the agreement. Then after that against Guillermo Rigondeaux but can now be direct against Inoue if considered.

I don't root for either Donaire and Casimero as whoever wins, I like them to have a match with Naoya Inoue. But first, they have to pass Nordine Oubaali. Inoue is already 2-0 against Pinoy boxers and that should be break or else we will end up as Mexico during Pacquiao days.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: tabas on June 21, 2021, 11:51:57 PM
Both are good boxers and this match isn't going to be an easy to choose if you're going to bet on it. I won't be betting with this, I don't know how it's going to end up.
Both has the caliber but I guess the majority will choose Donaire.

So far Donaire is winning in the poll I also have voted Donaire, Donaire is a more technical boxer he can score points in every round while Casimero is always going for a knockout I believe Donaire has Casimero's number, Donaire has been to a lot of great fights in his career and he has rejuvenated again after the bout with Oubaali, this is one exciting fight, it should not be missed.
It's just a poll but the crowd is really with Donaire as the guy ahead in points. I agree that this shouldn't be missed and that's why these two will definitely make their matches one of the best.
Both came from the same country and that's really a surprising twist from this match.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: peter0425 on June 22, 2021, 05:46:40 AM
In a big turn of events, Casimero is not going to fight Rogondeaux anymore it will be an all Filipino match up

Donaire Versus Casimero

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The Casimero-Rigondeaux matchup was quality but Donaire-Casimero, which will be televised live on Showtime from a site that has yet to be announced (the Dignity Health Sports Park in Carson, California is the likely venue), is a better bantamweight showdown as both Filipinos are aggressive boxer-punchers.

Rigondeaux will be in a position to face the winner.

Who do you think will have the edge? and will Unify the Bantamweight Title

https://www.ringtv.com/623186-nonito-donaire-replaces-guillermo-rigondeaux-to-make-john-riel-casimero-title-unification-fight/


https://i.imgur.com/vVoyqpF.jpg
two Filipino pride will face each other?

common is there no once that fits Pinoy fighter that's why they are matching together?

I'm not betting in anyone of them and i may not watch the game as well. this isn't fair i guess when there are many great boxers around the world for them to face.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Yaunfitda on June 22, 2021, 08:45:54 AM
Joining the fun and voted for Donaire. Nonito seems to be the sentimental favorite amongst Filipino and non-Filipino boxing fans here. Maybe it was because he is really that good and has a chance against Inoue who beat a hapless Dasmarinas or he is well love.

But Casimero is also a beast in this division, and he has been calling Inoue since last year, actually they supposed to fight but due to covid and then scheduling conflict the fight didn't materialized.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: acroman08 on June 22, 2021, 08:49:32 AM
I'm not betting in anyone of them and i may not watch the game as well. this isn't fair i guess when there are many great boxers around the world for them to face.
fights between two fighters of the same nationality aren't new. I'm not sure why you would find it unfair, but as for me I am excited about the fight and I am having a hard time thinking about who would win, but I voted Donaire for biased reasons. Both are a great fighter with a great fighting style that let them win their fights, seeing these two fighters in the same ring is a match that should be watched and it would be a shame to miss it.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: pinggoki on June 22, 2021, 10:04:12 AM
If I will be given a chance to choose between those two fighters on who will win the fight then probably I will go for Nonito Donaire as he is one of the Filipino Pride and as a fellow Filipino I will support my fellow men. Casimero is also one of the good fighters in the Philippines but still when it will be based on the stats, Donaire is one step ahead for him and if this will be based on experience, Nonito has a big advantage on it.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on June 22, 2021, 10:45:26 AM
Joining the fun and voted for Donaire. Nonito seems to be the sentimental favorite amongst Filipino and non-Filipino boxing fans here. Maybe it was because he is really that good and has a chance against Inoue who beat a hapless Dasmarinas or he is well love.

But Casimero is also a beast in this division, and he has been calling Inoue since last year, actually they supposed to fight but due to covid and then scheduling conflict the fight didn't materialized.
It's not just the sentimental value that Donaire has with Filipino fans that makes him a favorite pick in this fight, remember that he is a skilled fighter that is raging the ring back then together with Pacquiao and Donaire has the skill to show for, Casimero is a good fighter too but given the achievements that Donaire has, he is absolutely outshoned.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Hypnosis00 on June 22, 2021, 12:27:59 PM
Joining the fun and voted for Donaire. Nonito seems to be the sentimental favorite amongst Filipino and non-Filipino boxing fans here. Maybe it was because he is really that good and has a chance against Inoue who beat a hapless Dasmarinas or he is well love.

But Casimero is also a beast in this division, and he has been calling Inoue since last year, actually they supposed to fight but due to covid and then scheduling conflict the fight didn't materialized.
It's not just the sentimental value that Donaire has with Filipino fans that makes him a favorite pick in this fight, remember that he is a skilled fighter that is raging the ring back then together with Pacquiao and Donaire has the skill to show for, Casimero is a good fighter too but given the achievements that Donaire has, he is absolutely outshoned.

He might be a favorite here but he will be an underdog in the betting lines. I guess the best line of Donaire as an underdog was during his previous fight that he won by a KO, this time, he might be a slight underdog as both fighters are champion.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: bisdak40 on June 22, 2021, 12:42:02 PM
Joining the fun and voted for Donaire. Nonito seems to be the sentimental favorite amongst Filipino and non-Filipino boxing fans here. Maybe it was because he is really that good and has a chance against Inoue who beat a hapless Dasmarinas or he is well love.

But Casimero is also a beast in this division, and he has been calling Inoue since last year, actually they supposed to fight but due to covid and then scheduling conflict the fight didn't materialized.
It's not just the sentimental value that Donaire has with Filipino fans that makes him a favorite pick in this fight, remember that he is a skilled fighter that is raging the ring back then together with Pacquiao and Donaire has the skill to show for, Casimero is a good fighter too but given the achievements that Donaire has, he is absolutely outshoned.

It's no surprise that Donaire is leading the poll in this forum as he is more popular than Casimero but with regards to who will win, I voted for Casimero as I think that the latter is more agile than Donaire in this stage.

It is interesting who will the bookies put as an underdog in this fight. Experience and achievement may be on the side of Donaire but he is in the twilight of his career though he won against Oubaali but against Casimero, that killer left hook of him will be closely watched by Casimero.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: blockman on June 22, 2021, 12:44:16 PM
If I will be given a chance to choose between those two fighters on who will win the fight then probably I will go for Nonito Donaire as he is one of the Filipino Pride and as a fellow Filipino I will support my fellow men. Casimero is also one of the good fighters in the Philippines but still when it will be based on the stats, Donaire is one step ahead for him and if this will be based on experience, Nonito has a big advantage on it.
Stats-wise, Donaire has better stats and more fights than Casimero. Honestly, whenever there's a fight with Donaire, I'm waiting on in and getting many updates as much as I can if I've ever missed his matches. But with Casimero, I don't have the same feeling as Donaire's matches but I'm still looking for some information regarding his past matches but I'm not as hype as Donaire's. I'm proud of both of them but Donaire has more wins and professional matches than Casimero but Casimero got fewer losses. And who knows if Casimero will prove us wrong that he's better than Donaire although both of them are already winners in the hearts of everyone.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: zanezane on June 22, 2021, 03:18:26 PM
Stats-wise, Donaire has better stats and more fights than Casimero. Honestly, whenever there's a fight with Donaire, I'm waiting on in and getting many updates as much as I can if I've ever missed his matches. But with Casimero, I don't have the same feeling as Donaire's matches but I'm still looking for some information regarding his past matches but I'm not as hype as Donaire's. I'm proud of both of them but Donaire has more wins and professional matches than Casimero but Casimero got fewer losses. And who knows if Casimero will prove us wrong that he's better than Donaire although both of them are already winners in the hearts of everyone.
The reason for leaning on Donaire is because he's much more famous than Casimero and his fighting style is already tested and it's effectivity in the ring is already proven a lot of times. We don't know yet but given that stats wise, Donaire is the one who will have a high probability of winning.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Baofeng on June 22, 2021, 07:24:07 PM
Joining the fun and voted for Donaire. Nonito seems to be the sentimental favorite amongst Filipino and non-Filipino boxing fans here. Maybe it was because he is really that good and has a chance against Inoue who beat a hapless Dasmarinas or he is well love.

But Casimero is also a beast in this division, and he has been calling Inoue since last year, actually they supposed to fight but due to covid and then scheduling conflict the fight didn't materialized.
It's not just the sentimental value that Donaire has with Filipino fans that makes him a favorite pick in this fight, remember that he is a skilled fighter that is raging the ring back then together with Pacquiao and Donaire has the skill to show for, Casimero is a good fighter too but given the achievements that Donaire has, he is absolutely outshoned.

It's no surprise that Donaire is leading the poll in this forum as he is more popular than Casimero but with regards to who will win, I voted for Casimero as I think that the latter is more agile than Donaire in this stage.

It is interesting who will the bookies put as an underdog in this fight. Experience and achievement may be on the side of Donaire but he is in the twilight of his career though he won against Oubaali but against Casimero, that killer left hook of him will be closely watched by Casimero.

I have a feeling that Donaire will be the opening favourite against Casimero base on his previous fight.

I know it's going hard to predict or at least both of this fighters are our favourite Filipino boxers right now. Donaire still hanging on with that big win against Oubaali, and on the other side, we have Casimero who is eager to put his name on this division, even chasing Inoue.

This is what Donaire has to say on his fight against Casimero: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5ip2QVtYk4 (that hairline though)


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: btc_angela on June 22, 2021, 07:34:08 PM
^ Yes, Donaire should be the favourite, but both are title holders and this is a reunification fight. (WBO/WBC).

You can clearly see that Donaire has matured enough, and he has expound on how he is going to beat Casimero, - speed and timing. And yeah, gonna be a good week for Filipino's out there, Pacquiao vs Spence and then we have this fight. There's also a video of Casimero talking about his fight and he said that they have the same speed now, since Donaire has aged already.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: dothebeats on June 22, 2021, 07:41:18 PM
Donaire is kinda old in boxing terms, though can still perform well on the ring and have Casimero wanting to get that win so bad. Both have explosive power and good footwork that can accompany their pacing and the way they move around the ring. It can be hard to decide which of these two will be the better fighter on that ring, but nonetheless boxing fans are in for a treat, that's for sure. I'm leaning on the experience, power, and techniques of Donaire, but Casimero can still match some of that in the power department.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Mahanton on June 22, 2021, 07:53:28 PM
Donaire is kinda old in boxing terms, though can still perform well on the ring and have Casimero wanting to get that win so bad. Both have explosive power and good footwork that can accompany their pacing and the way they move around the ring. It can be hard to decide which of these two will be the better fighter on that ring, but nonetheless boxing fans are in for a treat, that's for sure. I'm leaning on the experience, power, and techniques of Donaire, but Casimero can still match some of that in the power department.
Speed!

They would really be having notable differences when it comes to this key area yet i have seen on how Casimero fights and yes he had that exploding power but when it comes to footwork and jab speeds then i would hands down to Donaire.

Even if he's old and past to his prime but still i wont be surprised if he would be taking down Casimero and this is why he should be still be careful even fighting an old man. Donaire is fast and very good on counterpunching so he better watch out.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: harizen on June 22, 2021, 08:39:01 PM
Donaire is kinda old in boxing terms, though can still perform well on the ring and have Casimero wanting to get that win so bad.

If you were able to watch how Donaire gives damage to the monster Naoya Inoue, a first time on his career, you won't consider his age in terms of analyzing the match. Moving forward, Donaire also has an impressive TKO win against Nordine Oubaali last month.

I considered this fight between Donaire and Casimero as a close match with no favorites or so what. Donaire might be the favorite but for me, there is no underdog to this match. Both boxers are having equal strength and it will now depend on how they will execute their respective strategies.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Natalim on June 22, 2021, 09:12:43 PM
Donaire is kinda old in boxing terms, though can still perform well on the ring and have Casimero wanting to get that win so bad.

If you were able to watch how Donaire gives damage to the monster Naoya Inoue, a first time on his career, you won't consider his age in terms of analyzing the match. Moving forward, Donaire also has an impressive TKO win against Nordine Oubaali last month.

I considered this fight between Donaire and Casimero as a close match with no favorites or so what. Donaire might be the favorite but for me, there is no underdog to this match. Both boxers are having equal strength and it will now depend on how they will execute their respective strategies.

Nice to hear that from you, so if the betting odds make Donaire or Casimero an underdog, then it would be a great idea to take the underdog since they have an equal chance of winning the fight. As for me, I don't see Donaire here being the favorites as they are both champions and the only advantage of Casimero is his age.

We've seen the damage done by Donaire on Inoue, but if Donaire was younger, he could have KO Inoue in that fight.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Sanitough on June 22, 2021, 09:46:29 PM
We've seen the damage done by Donaire on Inoue, but if Donaire was younger, he could have KO Inoue in that fight.

That's for sure, but we can also look at the other side, Inoue is not Oubaali who just stands in front of Donaire, Inoue is quicker which is a heavy hitter also at the same time, can't compare Inoue to Oubaali actually. Let's see if the journey of Donaire will continue and he will retire as a champion in the bantamweight division.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Fatunad on June 22, 2021, 09:59:09 PM
We've seen the damage done by Donaire on Inoue, but if Donaire was younger, he could have KO Inoue in that fight.

That's for sure, but we can also look at the other side, Inoue is not Oubaali who just stands in front of Donaire, Inoue is quicker which is a heavy hitter also at the same time, can't compare Inoue to Oubaali actually. Let's see if the journey of Donaire will continue and he will retire as a champion in the bantamweight division.
Don't know on why there are some comparison about Inoue and Oubaali which is really too far off in terms of raw power and speed and also we had seen on how Donaire performed when they do face and fight with Inoue which I can consider to be good but a fell short as he had get that liver blow last time.
If It was pushed a bit and he hadn't able to take that damage then he might able to pull off and able to beat Inoue on that time.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Johnyz on June 22, 2021, 10:23:09 PM
We've seen the damage done by Donaire on Inoue, but if Donaire was younger, he could have KO Inoue in that fight.

That's for sure, but we can also look at the other side, Inoue is not Oubaali who just stands in front of Donaire, Inoue is quicker which is a heavy hitter also at the same time, can't compare Inoue to Oubaali actually. Let's see if the journey of Donaire will continue and he will retire as a champion in the bantamweight division.
Many boxer already prove that age doesn't matter and we might see Donaire to have a rematch with Oubaali and Inoue if he won on this match against Casimero which is not an easy fight for both boxers. I can't still decide on where to bet, Casimero looks more fit but the skills of Donaire is undeniable. We might see them fight head to head, and maybe a unanimous decision.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Twinkledoe on June 22, 2021, 10:24:02 PM
Donaire is kinda old in boxing terms, though can still perform well on the ring and have Casimero wanting to get that win so bad.

If you were able to watch how Donaire gives damage to the monster Naoya Inoue, a first time on his career, you won't consider his age in terms of analyzing the match. Moving forward, Donaire also has an impressive TKO win against Nordine Oubaali last month.

I considered this fight between Donaire and Casimero as a close match with no favorites or so what. Donaire might be the favorite but for me, there is no underdog to this match. Both boxers are having equal strength and it will now depend on how they will execute their respective strategies.

Nice to hear that from you, so if the betting odds make Donaire or Casimero an underdog, then it would be a great idea to take the underdog since they have an equal chance of winning the fight. As for me, I don't see Donaire here being the favorites as they are both champions and the only advantage of Casimero is his age.

We've seen the damage done by Donaire on Inoue, but if Donaire was younger, he could have KO Inoue in that fight.

We will see who will be the favorite here by bookies once they listed this fight. But I think Donaire will be favored here, in my opinion. They may have close odds, but Donaire is more popular than Casimero. Interesting how they will sell this fight as both are Filipino boxers..If Donaire will come out of this fight, for sure, Inoue will be next.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: blockman on June 23, 2021, 07:39:16 PM
Stats-wise, Donaire has better stats and more fights than Casimero. Honestly, whenever there's a fight with Donaire, I'm waiting on in and getting many updates as much as I can if I've ever missed his matches. But with Casimero, I don't have the same feeling as Donaire's matches but I'm still looking for some information regarding his past matches but I'm not as hype as Donaire's. I'm proud of both of them but Donaire has more wins and professional matches than Casimero but Casimero got fewer losses. And who knows if Casimero will prove us wrong that he's better than Donaire although both of them are already winners in the hearts of everyone.
The reason for leaning on Donaire is because he's much more famous than Casimero and his fighting style is already tested and it's effectivity in the ring is already proven a lot of times. We don't know yet but given that stats wise, Donaire is the one who will have a high probability of winning.
Both of them were already tested and experienced but it's just that Donaire got more of those experiences. Yes, the stats won't lie and Donaire is more dominant with that.
But the stats of Casimero is also good although it's not that much as Donaire due to his tenure and Casimero's stats are also giving a good thought that he's going to give an uneasy match to Donaire.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: abel1337 on June 23, 2021, 08:00:39 PM
Actually, It's a hard choice to choose between them since both of them are pretty good boxers and also both my countrymen but I choose Donaire since I based my decision on the experience they both have. I also bet on Donaire many times and whenever I bet he doesn't fail me on my expectation, Even I lost on my last bet (Donaire vs Inoue) I'm pretty satisfied with the performance. I hope for them to have a rematch.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Oilacris on June 23, 2021, 10:28:45 PM
Actually, It's a hard choice to choose between them since both of them are pretty good boxers and also both my countrymen but I choose Donaire since I based my decision on the experience they both have. I also bet on Donaire many times and whenever I bet he doesn't fail me on my expectation, Even I lost on my last bet (Donaire vs Inoue) I'm pretty satisfied with the performance. I hope for them to have a rematch.
Im hoping on that Inoue vs Donaire rematch because that fight is something that you called pure boxing and pure entertainment.You can really expect something good and for sure if that thing happens then Donaire would really be preparing specially on lower body strength to withstand out those heavy killing body blows of Inoue on where the reason on why he had been taking down.

When it comes to experience then Donaire does have it compared to Casimero but of course there are still some strenghts that Casimero does have but i would still be rooting for nonito.



Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on June 24, 2021, 02:46:44 AM
At 32 years old Casimero does not have the most impressive career compared to a hall of famer like Donaire. This will be his opportunity to live up to his own hype. He's been very vocal about wanting to fight Inoue and now is his opportunity to earn that fight. The height and experience advantage of Donaire will be difficult to overcome. I haven't seen odds yet but I assume most people will bet on Donaire.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: electronicash on June 24, 2021, 04:26:06 AM
At 32 years old Casimero does not have the most impressive career compared to a hall of famer like Donaire. This will be his opportunity to live up to his own hype. He's been very vocal about wanting to fight Inoue and now is his opportunity to earn that fight. The height and experience advantage of Donaire will be difficult to overcome. I haven't seen odds yet but I assume most people will bet on Donaire.

someone should avenge the fallen 2, Dasmarinas and Donaire against Inoue. Inoue had been knocking Filipino fighters already if Casimero fails against Inoue. i don't know who else among our kind can beat the monster. seen Casimero fight the towering Zolani Tete with a long reach advantage and Casimero managed to knock him. 

If Donaire wins he will have the chance for a rematch against Inoue.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Kittygalore on June 24, 2021, 07:23:07 AM
At 32 years old Casimero does not have the most impressive career compared to a hall of famer like Donaire. This will be his opportunity to live up to his own hype. He's been very vocal about wanting to fight Inoue and now is his opportunity to earn that fight. The height and experience advantage of Donaire will be difficult to overcome. I haven't seen odds yet but I assume most people will bet on Donaire.
The problem with that one though is that Donaire is still on top of his game and I think that we can't be so sure that Casimero will held up against Donaire. Let's just see what's going to happen in the ring, I like it when I am proven wrong.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: bisdak40 on June 24, 2021, 08:21:28 AM
At 32 years old Casimero does not have the most impressive career compared to a hall of famer like Donaire. This will be his opportunity to live up to his own hype. He's been very vocal about wanting to fight Inoue and now is his opportunity to earn that fight. The height and experience advantage of Donaire will be difficult to overcome. I haven't seen odds yet but I assume most people will bet on Donaire.

Most probably, that would be the case, Donaire will be the favorite to win this fight as he is more popular than Casimero and with his recent win against Oubaali, his stocks went a little notch north.

Personally, i'm for Casimero's side here because if he wins against Donaire then Inoue would be having a hard time against him while if it's against Donaire, he would have an easier fight because he has now the experience of how the latter fight and would adjust where necessary to win convincingly.

If you look at the social media, there's a spat going on between Quadro Alas and the Filipino Flash that could fuel to this fight and somehow sell to those who are following them.



Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Hypnosis00 on June 24, 2021, 12:03:11 PM
At 32 years old Casimero does not have the most impressive career compared to a hall of famer like Donaire. This will be his opportunity to live up to his own hype. He's been very vocal about wanting to fight Inoue and now is his opportunity to earn that fight. The height and experience advantage of Donaire will be difficult to overcome. I haven't seen odds yet but I assume most people will bet on Donaire.

Most probably, that would be the case, Donaire will be the favorite to win this fight as he is more popular than Casimero and with his recent win against Oubaali, his stocks went a little notch north.

Personally, i'm for Casimero's side here because if he wins against Donaire then Inoue would be having a hard time against him while if it's against Donaire, he would have an easier fight because he has now the experience of how the latter fight and would adjust where necessary to win convincingly.

If you look at the social media, there's a spat going on between Quadro Alas and the Filipino Flash that could fuel to this fight and somehow sell to those who are following them.



They have to start a war on social media to gain attention. I don't care whoever will be the favorites, all I care is to see a great fight, a toe to toe fight that would entertain the crowd, and I'm sure they'll not gonna disappoint us. Just some of you here, I also like Casimero to win as Donaire has a little left in his tank.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: robelneo on June 24, 2021, 12:34:55 PM
They have to start a war on social media to gain attention. I don't care whoever will be the favorites, all I care is to see a great fight, a toe to toe fight that would entertain the crowd, and I'm sure they'll not gonna disappoint us. Just some of you here, I also like Casimero to win as Donaire has a little left in his tank.

Well, Casimero started the social media war, this is good they don't want to think that because they are of the same country they will not give their all, and on Donaire has little tank left, I don't think he still has a lot left and he has turned back the hands of time and we are seeing the Donaire of old, do you have doubt then just watch the Oubaali fight and you'll see.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: ultrloa on June 24, 2021, 12:50:41 PM
They have to start a war on social media to gain attention. I don't care whoever will be the favorites, all I care is to see a great fight, a toe to toe fight that would entertain the crowd, and I'm sure they'll not gonna disappoint us. Just some of you here, I also like Casimero to win as Donaire has a little left in his tank.

Well, Casimero started the social media war, this is good they don't want to think that because they are of the same country they will not give their all, and on Donaire has little tank left, I don't think he still has a lot left and he has turned back the hands of time and we are seeing the Donaire of old, do you have doubt then just watch the Oubaali fight and you'll see.

Maybe they did that  just for the sake of hyping their fight, But for this time I will go with Casimero since he's still pretty though at can able to knock anyone while Donaire is bit old and just newly came back to the boxing scene although he win from his last bout but this is I think not enough to defeat the strong and healthy Casimero.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Sanitough on June 24, 2021, 12:57:49 PM
They have to start a war on social media to gain attention. I don't care whoever will be the favorites, all I care is to see a great fight, a toe to toe fight that would entertain the crowd, and I'm sure they'll not gonna disappoint us. Just some of you here, I also like Casimero to win as Donaire has a little left in his tank.

Well, Casimero started the social media war, this is good they don't want to think that because they are of the same country they will not give their all, and on Donaire has little tank left, I don't think he still has a lot left and he has turned back the hands of time and we are seeing the Donaire of old, do you have doubt then just watch the Oubaali fight and you'll see.

Maybe they did that  just for the sake of hyping their fight, But for this time I will go with Casimero since he's still pretty though at can able to knock anyone while Donaire is bit old and just newly came back to the boxing scene although he win from his last bout but this is I think not enough to defeat the strong and healthy Casimero.

They have to hype this fight since it's a big fight and though we can expect they'll get good revenue, to increase it more would be better for them. These fighters are risking their lives and honor in the right, they deserved to get paid with the biggest amount they can make, and whoever wins this will surely get more big fights in the future, or Inoue to be specific.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Yaunfitda on June 24, 2021, 01:25:41 PM
At 32 years old Casimero does not have the most impressive career compared to a hall of famer like Donaire. This will be his opportunity to live up to his own hype. He's been very vocal about wanting to fight Inoue and now is his opportunity to earn that fight. The height and experience advantage of Donaire will be difficult to overcome. I haven't seen odds yet but I assume most people will bet on Donaire.

Most probably, that would be the case, Donaire will be the favorite to win this fight as he is more popular than Casimero and with his recent win against Oubaali, his stocks went a little notch north.

Personally, i'm for Casimero's side here because if he wins against Donaire then Inoue would be having a hard time against him while if it's against Donaire, he would have an easier fight because he has now the experience of how the latter fight and would adjust where necessary to win convincingly.

If you look at the social media, there's a spat going on between Quadro Alas and the Filipino Flash that could fuel to this fight and somehow sell to those who are following them.
The social media spat is one sided though, it all came from Casimero, he says that:

1. When he was still a budding boxer, he approach Donaire and speaks in native Filipino, and Donaire said he can't understand what John Riel is saying. He just wanted to get a picture with Nonito

2. When Donaire started to loss fights, he saw him in the Philippines and hear him speaks Filipino.

3. Casimero at one time was being trained by Nonito Sr, so obviously the father tell Nonito if he can spar with John Riel, but Nonito Jr decline.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: carlisle1 on June 24, 2021, 02:53:15 PM
Not sure if all of this is to gather attentions and make some big noise for this incoming fight, knowing how social media works it's all on the money sides.

They needed to have this kind of write ups in order to bring attentions, people who will read this up will think that there's a good reason for something,
it will open up discussions and fans who believe from both fighters will now go side by side.

We don't know though if how far this media hypes will go!


The social media spat is one sided though, it all came from Casimero, he says that:

1. When he was still a budding boxer, he approach Donaire and speaks in native Filipino, and Donaire said he can't understand what John Riel is saying. He just wanted to get a picture with Nonito

2. When Donaire started to loss fights, he saw him in the Philippines and hear him speaks Filipino.

3. Casimero at one time was being trained by Nonito Sr, so obviously the father tell Nonito if he can spar with John Riel, but Nonito Jr decline.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Kelvinid on June 24, 2021, 09:07:02 PM
At 32 years old Casimero does not have the most impressive career compared to a hall of famer like Donaire. This will be his opportunity to live up to his own hype. He's been very vocal about wanting to fight Inoue and now is his opportunity to earn that fight. The height and experience advantage of Donaire will be difficult to overcome. I haven't seen odds yet but I assume most people will bet on Donaire.

Maybe there's a point here, Donaire has quite more impressive fights than Casimero and if Casimero would beat Donaire, then that would make Casimero more popular and the camp of Inoue will be forced to give Casimero a fight. I think Casimero already sees this kind of possibility, all he needs to do now is just to trained hard to beat Donaire.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Natalim on June 24, 2021, 09:23:42 PM
At 32 years old Casimero does not have the most impressive career compared to a hall of famer like Donaire. This will be his opportunity to live up to his own hype. He's been very vocal about wanting to fight Inoue and now is his opportunity to earn that fight. The height and experience advantage of Donaire will be difficult to overcome. I haven't seen odds yet but I assume most people will bet on Donaire.

Maybe there's a point here, Donaire has quite more impressive fights than Casimero and if Casimero would beat Donaire, then that would make Casimero more popular and the camp of Inoue will be forced to give Casimero a fight. I think Casimero already sees this kind of possibility, all he needs to do now is just to trained hard to beat Donaire.

Donaire has become popular again because of one win, in comparison with Casimero, he is building his name and he has been winning fights. If you'll ask me, comparing their achievement in recent fights, Casimero has more achievement, so it's really hard to tell who will win because as a fan, we could be biased and look only the positive side of our favorite fighter.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Oasisman on June 24, 2021, 09:30:06 PM
At 32 years old Casimero does not have the most impressive career compared to a hall of famer like Donaire. This will be his opportunity to live up to his own hype. He's been very vocal about wanting to fight Inoue and now is his opportunity to earn that fight. The height and experience advantage of Donaire will be difficult to overcome. I haven't seen odds yet but I assume most people will bet on Donaire.

Maybe there's a point here, Donaire has quite more impressive fights than Casimero and if Casimero would beat Donaire, then that would make Casimero more popular and the camp of Inoue will be forced to give Casimero a fight. I think Casimero already sees this kind of possibility, all he needs to do now is just to trained hard to beat Donaire.

I guess Casimero is more than ready for this, and I know he's been so eager to fight against Inoue.
This is the only opportunity for him to step up his game and climb into a more competitive opponent. Casimero's fights are impressive he is a knock out puncher. But, let's see how well he can do against a veteran, much experienced, and a future HOFer boxer.
Whoever wins between this two will be a good opponent against Inoue.
Donaire for the rematch and redemption,
While Casimero bringing back the pride of his country.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: carlfebz2 on June 24, 2021, 09:31:05 PM
At 32 years old Casimero does not have the most impressive career compared to a hall of famer like Donaire. This will be his opportunity to live up to his own hype. He's been very vocal about wanting to fight Inoue and now is his opportunity to earn that fight. The height and experience advantage of Donaire will be difficult to overcome. I haven't seen odds yet but I assume most people will bet on Donaire.

someone should avenge the fallen 2, Dasmarinas and Donaire against Inoue. Inoue had been knocking Filipino fighters already if Casimero fails against Inoue. i don't know who else among our kind can beat the monster. seen Casimero fight the towering Zolani Tete with a long reach advantage and Casimero managed to knock him. 

If Donaire wins he will have the chance for a rematch against Inoue.

For sure that there would be some sequel or trilogy if Inoue would still manage to beat down the boxer that would win between the two on the upcoming fight.

Its true that Inoue would be definitely become a Filipino destroyer or having that kind of title if he would be continuing on beating up those Filipino challengers on taking up the belt.

This guy really had that serious punching power and for those potential fighters that would really be going against him then they should really ready and strengthen up their lower body to have some sustain.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: goinmerry on June 24, 2021, 11:37:03 PM
Casimero is so proud of himself he thinks he can take anyone, it's time that someone brings him back to where he belongs he is very boastful and doesn't respect anyone, but after the Donaire he will realize that he is not powerful compare to Donaire and Inoue, this is a very exciting match and the stake is the rights to fight Inoue, I'll have Donaire winning here so he can avenge his loss to Inoue.

You have a point. On his supposed fight that got canceled against the top rank Inoue, he throws a trashtalk that is not appropriate. It's like carrying already his seat.

But is he throw worlds already against Nonito Donaire? I've searched for it and don't find any.

Or you just want him to be badly beaten so that he will now learn how to become a humble boxer and just do the talking inside the ring.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Lanatsa on June 24, 2021, 11:38:36 PM
Casimero is so proud of himself he thinks he can take anyone, it's time that someone brings him back to where he belongs he is very boastful and doesn't respect anyone, but after the Donaire he will realize that he is not powerful compare to Donaire and Inoue, this is a very exciting match and the stake is the rights to fight Inoue, I'll have Donaire winning here so he can avenge his loss to Inoue.
Actually this is just personal opinion and own view about his personality but if you had been seeing his behavior ever since then you would say that this is just a typical behavior of his and if you don't get used to it then you would really be finding him to be not good.

When it comes to capability then this guy is good.He wont really be that much off confident if he don't show up real numbers but of course we do have different impression into other people.if you do find out him this way then its your personal opinion.

For avenging or rematch then I would really much prefer on seeing that one but also I do love to see on how Casimero fights.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: TravelMug on June 25, 2021, 01:55:02 AM
Casimero is so proud of himself he thinks he can take anyone, it's time that someone brings him back to where he belongs he is very boastful and doesn't respect anyone, but after the Donaire he will realize that he is not powerful compare to Donaire and Inoue, this is a very exciting match and the stake is the rights to fight Inoue, I'll have Donaire winning here so he can avenge his loss to Inoue.

I love how you put it, mate, of course we love Casimero, but sometimes he really gets overboard with this comments in the public that we cringe on what he says. He is already disrespecting Donaire in the media so if will be very tough once they are inside the ring as both will try to get to each other very early.

So we might see a knock out here, Donaire's left hook is still very dangerous and has the speed against the smaller Casimero. And since both of them are chasing Inoue for a bigger fight, this fight will surely tells us if anyone of them will have a chance against the monster.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Dave1 on June 25, 2021, 05:38:17 AM
That is Casimero's style, he is so brandish and arrogant in every fight, but it brings the best out of him. And he can back up his talk, because in his last couple of fights, he knock out his opponent.

So Donaire is no different, he needs to open that big mouth of his and starts somewhat of a war in social media. But Donaire is not responding, not seeing him talk trash but saying that he has advantage on speed, skills and he has the timing. As what he has said, "don't hook on a hooker". This might be true as Donaire has one of the best left hook in the game even though he is old already.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: peter0425 on June 25, 2021, 05:49:32 AM
Casimero is so proud of himself he thinks he can take anyone, it's time that someone brings him back to where he belongs he is very boastful and doesn't respect anyone, but after the Donaire he will realize that he is not powerful compare to Donaire and Inoue, this is a very exciting match and the stake is the rights to fight Inoue, I'll have Donaire winning here so he can avenge his loss to Inoue.
Actually this is just personal opinion and own view about his personality but if you had been seeing his behavior ever since then you would say that this is just a typical behavior of his and if you don't get used to it then you would really be finding him to be not good.
Every boxer has their own way of building their confidence and this is how Casimero have his own.

People find this an attitude but the truth is they only want confidence and thats all.

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When it comes to capability then this guy is good.He wont really be that much off confident if he don't show up real numbers but of course we do have different impression into other people.if you do find out him this way then its your personal opinion.
Donaire only has popularization but casimero has the power and for sure this fight will be even for sure.
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For avenging or rematch then I would really much prefer on seeing that one but also I do love to see on how Casimero fights.
See what will happen in the end as donaire is already old enough to fight for pwoer vs power.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: coin-investor on June 25, 2021, 06:46:49 AM
That is Casimero's style, he is so brandish and arrogant in every fight, but it brings the best out of him. And he can back up his talk, because in his last couple of fights, he knock out his opponent.


He has not even reached half of what Donaire and Pacquiao have achieved to brag like that, I know all Filipino fighters are very humble but Casimero is an exception, he is very boastful he thinks and acts like he is the greatest and shows no respect to Donaire he told on one on video that he will punish Donaire, who do you think he is, we'll see if he can prove that in their fight date.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Fundamentals Of on June 25, 2021, 07:29:13 AM
That is Casimero's style, he is so brandish and arrogant in every fight, but it brings the best out of him. And he can back up his talk, because in his last couple of fights, he knock out his opponent.


He has not even reached half of what Donaire and Pacquiao have achieved to brag like that, I know all Filipino fighters are very humble but Casimero is an exception, he is very boastful he thinks and acts like he is the greatest and shows no respect to Donaire he told on one on video that he will punish Donaire, who do you think he is, we'll see if he can prove that in their fight date.

Perhaps he's just arrogant in his own little way. He has achieved something and he's trying to promote the fight and hype it. We will know come August if his arrogance is backed up by a solid performance.

But I don't think Casimero is a special case. Donaire himself is arrogant. Pacquiao is humble of course, but I cannot see the same humility in Donaire. Donaire has a lot of air in him. Even inside the ring, I remembered more than a single moment when Donaire was showboating.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: ultrloa on June 25, 2021, 11:02:30 AM
They have to start a war on social media to gain attention. I don't care whoever will be the favorites, all I care is to see a great fight, a toe to toe fight that would entertain the crowd, and I'm sure they'll not gonna disappoint us. Just some of you here, I also like Casimero to win as Donaire has a little left in his tank.

Well, Casimero started the social media war, this is good they don't want to think that because they are of the same country they will not give their all, and on Donaire has little tank left, I don't think he still has a lot left and he has turned back the hands of time and we are seeing the Donaire of old, do you have doubt then just watch the Oubaali fight and you'll see.

Maybe they did that  just for the sake of hyping their fight, But for this time I will go with Casimero since he's still pretty though at can able to knock anyone while Donaire is bit old and just newly came back to the boxing scene although he win from his last bout but this is I think not enough to defeat the strong and healthy Casimero.

They have to hype this fight since it's a big fight and though we can expect they'll get good revenue, to increase it more would be better for them. These fighters are risking their lives and honor in the right, they deserved to get paid with the biggest amount they can make, and whoever wins this will surely get more big fights in the future, or Inoue to be specific.

Both of them is well known fighter so for sure the hype will just there especially the filipino crowd want to see this happen, maybe they need a little push to market this fight outside so thay they could get a good revenue for this match.

And whoever win this fight for sure they will get a big honor on their names but I will possibly bet on Casimero this time since he's so condition and well built to fight in the ring.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Botnake on June 25, 2021, 11:03:54 AM
That is Casimero's style, he is so brandish and arrogant in every fight, but it brings the best out of him. And he can back up his talk, because in his last couple of fights, he knock out his opponent.


He has not even reached half of what Donaire and Pacquiao have achieved to brag like that, I know all Filipino fighters are very humble but Casimero is an exception, he is very boastful he thinks and acts like he is the greatest and shows no respect to Donaire he told on one on video that he will punish Donaire, who do you think he is, we'll see if he can prove that in their fight date.

Perhaps he's just arrogant in his own little way. He has achieved something and he's trying to promote the fight and hype it. We will know come August if his arrogance is backed up by a solid performance.

But I don't think Casimero is a special case. Donaire himself is arrogant. Pacquiao is humble of course, but I cannot see the same humility in Donaire. Donaire has a lot of air in him. Even inside the ring, I remembered more than a single moment when Donaire was showboating.

I agree with you, I can see that Donaire is not really humble inside but for me, it's not a big deal, they are just trying to be real and that's what matters. What we see is them fighting and winning, that's the real definition of a great fighter and these two are great fighters, which means we will see a great fight comes August.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: blockman on June 25, 2021, 12:17:19 PM
He has not even reached half of what Donaire and Pacquiao have achieved to brag like that, I know all Filipino fighters are very humble but Casimero is an exception, he is very boastful he thinks and acts like he is the greatest and shows no respect to Donaire he told on one on video that he will punish Donaire, who do you think he is, we'll see if he can prove that in their fight date.
I didn't know that Casimero is like that since I'm not really following his boxing journey and career. But if that's him, then he's expecting where the crowd is going to be favor with and that's with Donaire. We knew Donaire as a humble guy whether he win or lose, there's always the admiration that he gives to his opponent and as well as giving credit for how they gave their best. Although that's okay if he is being like that, they're going to fight each other and they should boast on their own inside the ring and not just with all talks and attitude shows during press cons.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: ultrloa on June 25, 2021, 12:51:02 PM
That is Casimero's style, he is so brandish and arrogant in every fight, but it brings the best out of him. And he can back up his talk, because in his last couple of fights, he knock out his opponent.


He has not even reached half of what Donaire and Pacquiao have achieved to brag like that, I know all Filipino fighters are very humble but Casimero is an exception, he is very boastful he thinks and acts like he is the greatest and shows no respect to Donaire he told on one on video that he will punish Donaire, who do you think he is, we'll see if he can prove that in their fight date.

You need to understand that this is part of the hype  they used this as part of marketing so that the fans will feel excite on what will happen on their fight and I find this normal since if you look on other fight you can see how worse the other player when there fight  coming. Maybe the one we need to see on how these guys perform and if they can knock off their opponent in this fight.


I didn't know that Casimero is like that since I'm not really following his boxing journey and career. But if that's him, then he's expecting where the crowd is going to be favor with and that's with Donaire. We knew Donaire as a humble guy whether he win or lose, there's always the admiration that he gives to his opponent and as well as giving credit for how they gave their best. Although that's okay if he is being like that, they're going to fight each other and they should boast on their own inside the ring and not just with all talks and attitude shows during press cons.

You can watch Casimero's vlog on youtube so that  you can follow his activities search this "Quadro alas its my boy"


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Japinat on June 27, 2021, 11:54:36 AM
He has not even reached half of what Donaire and Pacquiao have achieved to brag like that, I know all Filipino fighters are very humble but Casimero is an exception, he is very boastful he thinks and acts like he is the greatest and shows no respect to Donaire he told on one on video that he will punish Donaire, who do you think he is, we'll see if he can prove that in their fight date.
I didn't know that Casimero is like that since I'm not really following his boxing journey and career. But if that's him, then he's expecting where the crowd is going to be favor with and that's with Donaire. We knew Donaire as a humble guy whether he win or lose, there's always the admiration that he gives to his opponent and as well as giving credit for how they gave their best. Although that's okay if he is being like that, they're going to fight each other and they should boast on their own inside the ring and not just with all talks and attitude shows during press cons.

Let's say not everyone has the same attitude, I'm sure Casimero is not like that outside the right, he just knows that this is business and he needs to get noticed in order for him to get big fights, and it seems like his style is very much effective.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on June 27, 2021, 11:59:18 AM
I read that there's a lot of drama regarding the testing on this fight. Donaire's manager and wife claim that Casimero is not yet enrolled on VADA, while Casimero's camp says he is. And then Nonito threatening to walk out of this fight if Casimero doesn't submit the proper paperwork in time for the testing prior to the fight.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: virasisog on June 27, 2021, 01:35:48 PM
Donaire is considered as one of the fastest and best counter puncher. I consider Donaire as one of the best Filipino boxer next to Pacquiao. I am not well aware of Casimero even though he is a Filipino boxer. So, I guess I'll just wait and see what he can do since we know Donaire as one of the best counter puncher and not to mention thw huge gap of experience.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Oilacris on June 27, 2021, 05:49:53 PM
Casimero is creating hype on this fight by telling people on his video that he will teach Donaire a big lesson and after that, he will destroy Inoue, that's a big plan it's a big challenge for him, Donaire just found a fountain of youth he is back to his great self by destroying Oubaali where many thought Donaire will have a hard time, but turns out to be an easy fight for him.
Any upcoming fight should really be having some hype of it and as a boxer then it would really be part of the job on making those kind of words or actions just to make the upcoming fight to be more exciting which basically means that more money for the said fight.

You can eventually find it out to be that obvious on some situations though but it is understandable that they would really be needing on adding up some spice.

Lets see if Casimero wont really be eating his words on fighting Donaire which is more experienced and more faster.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Oceat on June 27, 2021, 07:14:57 PM
Casimero is creating hype on this fight by telling people on his video that he will teach Donaire a big lesson and after that, he will destroy Inoue, that's a big plan it's a big challenge for him, Donaire just found a fountain of youth he is back to his great self by destroying Oubaali where many thought Donaire will have a hard time, but turns out to be an easy fight for him.
Any upcoming fight should really be having some hype of it and as a boxer then it would really be part of the job on making those kind of words or actions just to make the upcoming fight to be more exciting which basically means that more money for the said fight.

You can eventually find it out to be that obvious on some situations though but it is understandable that they would really be needing on adding up some spice.

Lets see if Casimero wont really be eating his words on fighting Donaire which is more experienced and more faster.
It's best to create a hype to change the odds in almost all bookies since most bookies listed the hype goes to Donaire.
Since in terms of advantage it's still Donaire has it and Casimero is just himself armed with his fist that will knock down any opponent.
Let's just wait and see if Casimero can handle Donaire with all he got while making a scene to spice up the fight a little bit.
On the other hand Donaire isn't really bothered about it but instead it's thanking all of its fans for the great support to both of them especially the Filipino community.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: freedomgo on June 27, 2021, 08:48:05 PM
Casimero is creating hype on this fight by telling people on his video that he will teach Donaire a big lesson and after that, he will destroy Inoue, that's a big plan it's a big challenge for him, Donaire just found a fountain of youth he is back to his great self by destroying Oubaali where many thought Donaire will have a hard time, but turns out to be an easy fight for him.
Any upcoming fight should really be having some hype of it and as a boxer then it would really be part of the job on making those kind of words or actions just to make the upcoming fight to be more exciting which basically means that more money for the said fight.

You can eventually find it out to be that obvious on some situations though but it is understandable that they would really be needing on adding up some spice.

Lets see if Casimero wont really be eating his words on fighting Donaire which is more experienced and more faster.
It's best to create a hype to change the odds in almost all bookies since most bookies listed the hype goes to Donaire.
Since in terms of advantage it's still Donaire has it and Casimero is just himself armed with his fist that will knock down any opponent.
Let's just wait and see if Casimero can handle Donaire with all he got while making a scene to spice up the fight a little bit.
On the other hand Donaire isn't really bothered about it but instead it's thanking all of its fans for the great support to both of them especially the Filipino community.

We don't know what the betting odds are yet, so we cannot tell if Donaire is the favorite to win this fight, but regardless, I think the odds would not make one heavily favored as both are champions and they have created their names in the sport. All I can expect is that this will be a great fight as both wants to prove the world that they are world class champions.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: crzy on June 27, 2021, 08:57:03 PM
Casimero is creating hype on this fight by telling people on his video that he will teach Donaire a big lesson and after that, he will destroy Inoue, that's a big plan it's a big challenge for him, Donaire just found a fountain of youth he is back to his great self by destroying Oubaali where many thought Donaire will have a hard time, but turns out to be an easy fight for him.
That is Casimero anyway, he always trash talking so this is not a surprise anymore. Whoever wins on this match will still have my support on their next fight especially against Inoue, that's the main goal for this two boxer so that video is very straight to the point and hopefully Casimero will deliver and not just on trash talking.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Russlenat on June 27, 2021, 09:11:24 PM
Casimero is creating hype on this fight by telling people on his video that he will teach Donaire a big lesson and after that, he will destroy Inoue, that's a big plan it's a big challenge for him, Donaire just found a fountain of youth he is back to his great self by destroying Oubaali where many thought Donaire will have a hard time, but turns out to be an easy fight for him.
That is Casimero anyway, he always trash talking so this is not a surprise anymore. Whoever wins on this match will still have my support on their next fight especially against Inoue, that's the main goal for this two boxer so that video is very straight to the point and hopefully Casimero will deliver and not just on trash talking.

I hope Inoue is telling the truth and he will not cancel a fight again.

 Inoue doesn’t mind waiting for Donaire vs Casimero winner (https://sports.inquirer.net/426822/inoue-doesnt-mind-waiting-for-donaire-vs-casimero-winner)

If Donaire wins, I guess we will see a Donaire vs Inoue rematch, but if Casimero wins, then I think the chance of happening might be a little low.
I was just thinking, if Inoue really wants to fight Casimero, he should have fought him before when he was being challenged.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Oasisman on June 27, 2021, 09:39:21 PM
Casimero is creating hype on this fight by telling people on his video that he will teach Donaire a big lesson and after that, he will destroy Inoue, that's a big plan it's a big challenge for him, Donaire just found a fountain of youth he is back to his great self by destroying Oubaali where many thought Donaire will have a hard time, but turns out to be an easy fight for him.
That is Casimero anyway, he always trash talking so this is not a surprise anymore. Whoever wins on this match will still have my support on their next fight especially against Inoue, that's the main goal for this two boxer so that video is very straight to the point and hopefully Casimero will deliver and not just on trash talking.

I hope Inoue is telling the truth and he will not cancel a fight again.

 Inoue doesn’t mind waiting for Donaire vs Casimero winner (https://sports.inquirer.net/426822/inoue-doesnt-mind-waiting-for-donaire-vs-casimero-winner)

If Donaire wins, I guess we will see a Donaire vs Inoue rematch, but if Casimero wins, then I think the chance of happening might be a little low.
I was just thinking, if Inoue really wants to fight Casimero, he should have fought him before when he was being challenged.

Man, you made me remember how crazy Casimero was when he challenged Inoue before.
https://youtu.be/UGSwfPZbsW8 (https://youtu.be/UGSwfPZbsW8)
video not mine.
I don't know but I guess Casimero is more than ready to fight Inoue during that time, though he struggled on how he's going to deliver the challenge in english language. I literally laugh out loud the way he speaks to the crowd, but that's what we want, that's what the fans want. Sell the fight.
But, unfortunately it didn't happen. So, today I'm kinda excited to watch who will fight Inoue next. I dont care who wins between these two, they both deserved to fight Inoue.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: blockman on June 27, 2021, 11:10:44 PM
I hope Inoue is telling the truth and he will not cancel a fight again.

 Inoue doesn’t mind waiting for Donaire vs Casimero winner (https://sports.inquirer.net/426822/inoue-doesnt-mind-waiting-for-donaire-vs-casimero-winner)

If Donaire wins, I guess we will see a Donaire vs Inoue rematch, but if Casimero wins, then I think the chance of happening might be a little low.
I was just thinking, if Inoue really wants to fight Casimero, he should have fought him before when he was being challenged.
Will there be another rematch for Donaire against Inoue? I think there's already a bond between these two and if Donaire wants to have a rematch to Inoue, I think he should have prioritized that over having a match with Casimero. But this is boxing, it's also a business that whoever comes first will be the first in line. I want both of them to fight Inoue. First, a rematch with Inoue and then Casimero having that match against Inoue and both of them win against Inoue to have that pride again back to them. It's just about the split with the profits and if their negotiation did better than the usual. But that always the case why a match doesn't happen, sometimes if the boxer and its management refuses or if the split isn't favorable to both parties.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: tippytoes on June 27, 2021, 11:19:16 PM
I hope Inoue is telling the truth and he will not cancel a fight again.

 Inoue doesn’t mind waiting for Donaire vs Casimero winner (https://sports.inquirer.net/426822/inoue-doesnt-mind-waiting-for-donaire-vs-casimero-winner)

If Donaire wins, I guess we will see a Donaire vs Inoue rematch, but if Casimero wins, then I think the chance of happening might be a little low.
I was just thinking, if Inoue really wants to fight Casimero, he should have fought him before when he was being challenged.
Will there be another rematch for Donaire against Inoue? I think there's already a bond between these two and if Donaire wants to have a rematch to Inoue, I think he should have prioritized that over having a match with Casimero. But this is boxing, it's also a business that whoever comes first will be the first in line. I want both of them to fight Inoue. First, a rematch with Inoue and then Casimero having that match against Inoue and both of them win against Inoue to have that pride again back to them. It's just about the split with the profits and if their negotiation did better than the usual. But that always the case why a match doesn't happen, sometimes if the boxer and its management refuses or if the split isn't favorable to both parties.

Sometimes, it really depends on their promoters, even if the boxer wants to fight another boxer. They need to consider if the fight will also attract viewers. In this fight, I will go for Donaire, and if he wins, high chance that there will be Inoue-Donaire rematch, which their promoters can easily sell. So no odds yet for this fight, right? Because the last fight of Inoue vs Dasmarinas, the top bookies didn't list this fight.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Yamifoud on June 27, 2021, 11:32:34 PM
I hope Inoue is telling the truth and he will not cancel a fight again.

 Inoue doesn’t mind waiting for Donaire vs Casimero winner (https://sports.inquirer.net/426822/inoue-doesnt-mind-waiting-for-donaire-vs-casimero-winner)

If Donaire wins, I guess we will see a Donaire vs Inoue rematch, but if Casimero wins, then I think the chance of happening might be a little low.
I was just thinking, if Inoue really wants to fight Casimero, he should have fought him before when he was being challenged.
Will there be another rematch for Donaire against Inoue? I think there's already a bond between these two and if Donaire wants to have a rematch to Inoue, I think he should have prioritized that over having a match with Casimero. But this is boxing, it's also a business that whoever comes first will be the first in line. I want both of them to fight Inoue. First, a rematch with Inoue and then Casimero having that match against Inoue and both of them win against Inoue to have that pride again back to them. It's just about the split with the profits and if their negotiation did better than the usual. But that always the case why a match doesn't happen, sometimes if the boxer and its management refuses or if the split isn't favorable to both parties.

Sometimes, it really depends on their promoters, even if the boxer wants to fight another boxer. They need to consider if the fight will also attract viewers. In this fight, I will go for Donaire, and if he wins, high chance that there will be Inoue-Donaire rematch, which their promoters can easily sell. So no odds yet for this fight, right? Because the last fight of Inoue vs Dasmarinas, the top bookies didn't list this fight.
That will be the discussion between promoters and the fighters. If they will agree with the terms and conditions especially for the money, then they will set the fight. Boxing is a money business, not only in building a reputation that is why sometimes we hear that they cancel their mutual plan fight because of some reason and that probably because of money.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: harizen on June 27, 2021, 11:44:51 PM
So no odds yet for this fight, right? Because the last fight of Inoue vs Dasmarinas, the top bookies didn't list this fight.

Let's wait at least a day or two prior to the match.

The Inoue vs Dasmarinas fight was listed on some crypto-sportsbook although those giants didn't list it. Don't know the reason though.

Currently on some boxing and sports analyst, Donaire is the favorite to win the match.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: blockman on June 28, 2021, 06:59:03 AM
I hope Inoue is telling the truth and he will not cancel a fight again.

 Inoue doesn’t mind waiting for Donaire vs Casimero winner (https://sports.inquirer.net/426822/inoue-doesnt-mind-waiting-for-donaire-vs-casimero-winner)

If Donaire wins, I guess we will see a Donaire vs Inoue rematch, but if Casimero wins, then I think the chance of happening might be a little low.
I was just thinking, if Inoue really wants to fight Casimero, he should have fought him before when he was being challenged.
Will there be another rematch for Donaire against Inoue? I think there's already a bond between these two and if Donaire wants to have a rematch to Inoue, I think he should have prioritized that over having a match with Casimero. But this is boxing, it's also a business that whoever comes first will be the first in line. I want both of them to fight Inoue. First, a rematch with Inoue and then Casimero having that match against Inoue and both of them win against Inoue to have that pride again back to them. It's just about the split with the profits and if their negotiation did better than the usual. But that always the case why a match doesn't happen, sometimes if the boxer and its management refuses or if the split isn't favorable to both parties.

Sometimes, it really depends on their promoters, even if the boxer wants to fight another boxer. They need to consider if the fight will also attract viewers. In this fight, I will go for Donaire, and if he wins, high chance that there will be Inoue-Donaire rematch, which their promoters can easily sell. So no odds yet for this fight, right? Because the last fight of Inoue vs Dasmarinas, the top bookies didn't list this fight.
That's right if the promoters see that there's going to be huge money that's on it, they're going to make it happen. But if there's no interest from the match and it's obvious that it won't make that much money, they're not going to make it happen. Aside from the split and the interest of the crowd and boxing fans, there are other factors that might stop the matches and I think that's why we're seeing some drama lately for them to sell their matches and I think that's a very good marketing strategy from these boxers alone. They know how to sell themselves and how to sell their upcoming match.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Lorence.xD on June 28, 2021, 08:45:35 AM
Let's wait at least a day or two prior to the match.

The Inoue vs Dasmarinas fight was listed on some crypto-sportsbook although those giants didn't list it. Don't know the reason though.

Currently on some boxing and sports analyst, Donaire is the favorite to win the match.
It's still a mystery to me why some bookies list fights near the date of the fight as if that would change a thing with people that rig matches. I have heard that too, most sports news are focusing on Donaire in this fight which is clearly means that Donaire will probably have a lower odds against Casimero.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Fredomago on June 28, 2021, 10:15:15 AM

It's still a mystery to me why some bookies list fights near the date of the fight as if that would change a thing with people that rig matches.
No idea about that, since the bookies are the one who are responsible for bringing sports and how they've provide odds. maybe there's some influece from those who are into rigging fights that they are considering, not sure though  ::)

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I have heard that too, most sports news are focusing on Donaire in this fight which is clearly means that Donaire will probably have a lower odds against Casimero.

Donaire still getting that edge from the eyes of sport bookies, they seen that the hypes for Donaire brings them nice profits..


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: peter0425 on June 28, 2021, 10:45:48 AM
Donaire is considered as one of the fastest and best counter puncher. I consider Donaire as one of the best Filipino boxer next to Pacquiao. I am not well aware of Casimero even though he is a Filipino boxer. So, I guess I'll just wait and see what he can do since we know Donaire as one of the best counter puncher and not to mention thw huge gap of experience.
But Donaire is on His retirement age already while casimero is still fresh.

but i am vouching for donaire on this fight as this will come to surely end of the round and for Decisioning from judges.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: harizen on June 28, 2021, 08:43:14 PM

There's an ongoing issue about the fight regarding Casimero avoided a drug-testing procedure of VADA (Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency). Just for anyone's information, complying with the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA) is a must as it ensures that both fighters are not using any anti-doping practices and programs in boxing and mixed martial arts.

I don't how it became a big issue since for transparency, both fighters can just comply with that so no issues will be raised. Casimero's camp are surely aware of that.

Following the progress with that issue.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Natalim on June 28, 2021, 08:51:46 PM

There's an ongoing issue about the fight regarding Casimero avoided a drug-testing procedure of VADA (Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency). Just for anyone's information, complying with the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA) is a must as it ensures that both fighters are not using any anti-doping practices and programs in boxing and mixed martial arts.

I don't how it became a big issue since for transparency, both fighters can just comply with that so no issues will be raised. Casimero's camp are surely aware of that.

Following the progress with that issue.

It's a requirement, Casimero's camp has to submit on it, otherwise, their reputation will be tarnish. I'm hearing this drug testing again, how is it different from before when Manny was asked to underdog a drug testing during his fight with Mayweather?


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: bisdak40 on June 28, 2021, 09:13:36 PM
It's a requirement, Casimero's camp has to submit on it, otherwise, their reputation will be tarnish. I'm hearing this drug testing again, how is it different from before when Manny was asked to underdog a drug testing during his fight with Mayweather?

I think it's not compulsory in every fight as some fighters AFAIK don't go with that process. That would only be required if the other camp would want that they will be tested before the fight, correct me if I'm wrong.

In the case of Mayweather vs Pacman, the former initiated or asked the commission that they will be tested by random and in a surprising manner.

I don't think that the fight will be canceled because of this issue because neither fighter is doing this doping thing.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Japinat on June 28, 2021, 09:18:29 PM
It's a requirement, Casimero's camp has to submit on it, otherwise, their reputation will be tarnish. I'm hearing this drug testing again, how is it different from before when Manny was asked to underdog a drug testing during his fight with Mayweather?

I think it's not compulsory in every fight as some fighters AFAIK don't go with that process. That would only be required if the other camp would want that they will be tested before the fight, correct me if I'm wrong.

In the case of Mayweather vs Pacman, the former initiated or asked the commission that they will be tested by random and in a surprising manner.

I don't think that the fight will be canceled because of this issue because neither fighter is doing this doping thing.

Donaire does not ask for it in his previous fights IIRC, so can we call this an insult on Casimero's camp? For me, it shows that he doesn't trust Casimero and believes that he is using an enhancing drug to increase his stamina and power, how about you, what message did you see in this news?


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: stomachgrowls on June 28, 2021, 09:29:19 PM
It's a requirement, Casimero's camp has to submit on it, otherwise, their reputation will be tarnish. I'm hearing this drug testing again, how is it different from before when Manny was asked to underdog a drug testing during his fight with Mayweather?

I think it's not compulsory in every fight as some fighters AFAIK don't go with that process. That would only be required if the other camp would want that they will be tested before the fight, correct me if I'm wrong.

In the case of Mayweather vs Pacman, the former initiated or asked the commission that they will be tested by random and in a surprising manner.

I don't think that the fight will be canceled because of this issue because neither fighter is doing this doping thing.

Donaire does not ask for it in his previous fights IIRC, so can we call this an insult on Casimero's camp? For me, it shows that he doesn't trust Casimero and believes that he is using an enhancing drug to increase his stamina and power, how about you, what message did you see in this news?
According to this https://www.the42.ie/eddie-hearn-2-4876723-Nov2019/

The vast majority of professional boxers globally aren’t tested until they reach world-championship level, whereby testing may be mandatory — or simply ‘encouraged’ and left to the local boxing commission — depending on the sanctioning body by whom a fight is supervised.

So this means that it isnt compulsory and would really be depending on some factors.If the said opposing team do really make out some request
then this would really be some insult imho.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Japinat on June 28, 2021, 09:41:15 PM
It's a requirement, Casimero's camp has to submit on it, otherwise, their reputation will be tarnish. I'm hearing this drug testing again, how is it different from before when Manny was asked to underdog a drug testing during his fight with Mayweather?

I think it's not compulsory in every fight as some fighters AFAIK don't go with that process. That would only be required if the other camp would want that they will be tested before the fight, correct me if I'm wrong.

In the case of Mayweather vs Pacman, the former initiated or asked the commission that they will be tested by random and in a surprising manner.

I don't think that the fight will be canceled because of this issue because neither fighter is doing this doping thing.

Donaire does not ask for it in his previous fights IIRC, so can we call this an insult on Casimero's camp? For me, it shows that he doesn't trust Casimero and believes that he is using an enhancing drug to increase his stamina and power, how about you, what message did you see in this news?
According to this https://www.the42.ie/eddie-hearn-2-4876723-Nov2019/

The vast majority of professional boxers globally aren’t tested until they reach world-championship level, whereby testing may be mandatory — or simply ‘encouraged’ and left to the local boxing commission — depending on the sanctioning body by whom a fight is supervised.

So this means that it isnt compulsory and would really be depending on some factors.If the said opposing team do really make out some request
then this would really be some insult imho.

I don't know if this is just an excuse from Donaire's camp, or he is just afraid of Casimero. Inoue was more powerful for a small guy, I think he should have asked a random drug testing before they fought. It's just disappointing that a fellow Filipino was asking it when Casimero had some big fight against Tete and it was not required or asked.

I hope it will not delay the fight, or cancel it at worst since Casimero's camp reportedly will not comply with it, so there's a little problem we are seeing here.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Fatunad on June 28, 2021, 09:45:41 PM

I don't know if this is just an excuse from Donaire's camp, or he is just afraid of Casimero. Inoue was more powerful for a small guy, I think he should have asked a random drug testing before they fought. It's just disappointing that a fellow Filipino was asking it when Casimero had some big fight against Tete and it was not required or asked.

I hope it will not delay the fight, or cancel it at worst since Casimero's camp reportedly will not comply with it, so there's a little problem we are seeing here.
They do want to play it safe on Donaires camp but it would really be that some insult decision since that would really be showing off some hindrance nor suspicions that Casimero is taking up something on his fights and that cant really be avoided for Casimeros camp would really be thinking that way.
Since both are Filipino fighters why not just let the fight goes on without those check ups?

This is just really showing off that they are being too suspicious and for sure  there would be lots of bad impressions towards this.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: agustina2 on June 29, 2021, 01:45:17 AM
I don't know if this is just an excuse from Donaire's camp, or he is just afraid of Casimero.

I think it's not an excuse. The fight between Donaire and Casimero is an idea of Donaire itself.

As I read in news, Casimero said he has complied with VADA and WBC drug-testing paperwork and is ready to be tested anytime. Donaire claims the files have not been submitted. Casimero's camp can submit it easily with no problem and check what will be the next thing that Donaire will ask after that.

Or maybe promotions so they are making sounds? :)


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: btc78 on June 29, 2021, 03:11:36 AM

There's an ongoing issue about the fight regarding Casimero avoided a drug-testing procedure of VADA (Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency). Just for anyone's information, complying with the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA) is a must as it ensures that both fighters are not using any anti-doping practices and programs in boxing and mixed martial arts.

I don't how it became a big issue since for transparency, both fighters can just comply with that so no issues will be raised. Casimero's camp are surely aware of that.

Following the progress with that issue.
It says voluntary then why this become  a requirement or is a must , there's a confusion towards this thing .

and also maybe this are all part of the Show to make the fight more controversial and lure many people to take part.

we knew that boxing industry is slowly dying now that's why there are tons of strategy needs to produce for this fight to find success.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: carlisle1 on June 29, 2021, 06:54:17 AM
I don't know if this is just an excuse from Donaire's camp, or he is just afraid of Casimero.

I think it's not an excuse. The fight between Donaire and Casimero is an idea of Donaire itself.

As I read in news, Casimero said he has complied with VADA and WBC drug-testing paperwork and is ready to be tested anytime. Donaire claims the files have not been submitted. Casimero's camp can submit it easily with no problem and check what will be the next thing that Donaire will ask after that.

Or maybe promotions so they are making sounds? :)

Part of publicity to create noise and attract more interested readers and fans? not sure but it's always this way,

promoters needs to think of something to gain interest from those people who loves this sports, both fighters have good numbers of fans,

those excuses might have valid reasons or also possible that both camps are creating things that can triggered fans to go side by side
and shows their supports from whoever they think have that edge to win.







Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: bisdak40 on June 29, 2021, 07:45:23 AM
I think it's not an excuse. The fight between Donaire and Casimero is an idea of Donaire itself.

As I read in news, Casimero said he has complied with VADA and WBC drug-testing paperwork and is ready to be tested anytime. Donaire claims the files have not been submitted. Casimero's camp can submit it easily with no problem and check what will be the next thing that Donaire will ask after that.

Or maybe promotions so they are making sounds? :)

True, but fighting Casimero is very dangerous that it might ruin his plan for a rematch with Inoue. With the link below it seems that the Donaire's camp is no longer interested in fighting Quadro Alas because Top Rank big boss have promised Donaire that it could give him the Inoue rematch directly.

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Since Inoue is under contract with Top Rank, Arum said he can arrange Donaire’s next fight to be against the Japanese Monster.

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http://philboxing.com/news/story-157066.html


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Sled on June 29, 2021, 08:58:43 AM
I don't know if this is just an excuse from Donaire's camp, or he is just afraid of Casimero.

I think it's not an excuse. The fight between Donaire and Casimero is an idea of Donaire itself.

As I read in news, Casimero said he has complied with VADA and WBC drug-testing paperwork and is ready to be tested anytime. Donaire claims the files have not been submitted. Casimero's camp can submit it easily with no problem and check what will be the next thing that Donaire will ask after that.

Or maybe promotions so they are making sounds? :)

Part of publicity to create noise and attract more interested readers and fans? not sure but it's always this way,

promoters needs to think of something to gain interest from those people who loves this sports, both fighters have good numbers of fans,

those excuses might have valid reasons or also possible that both camps are creating things that can triggered fans to go side by side
and shows their supports from whoever they think have that edge to win.


Eventually, such publicity works for so several years. Not only in the Philippines but all over the world especially the world of boxing (sometimes happen to MMA/UFC). If we can remember Mayweather and Mcgregor fights, it makes sense and it gives hypes to the tournament.

I see the confidence in both of them to win but let see what they can do during the fight. And who gonna win this might have a chance to fight against "The Monster" Inonue. Little bit excited, though.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Russlenat on June 29, 2021, 12:54:33 PM
I don't know if this is just an excuse from Donaire's camp, or he is just afraid of Casimero.

I think it's not an excuse. The fight between Donaire and Casimero is an idea of Donaire itself.

As I read in news, Casimero said he has complied with VADA and WBC drug-testing paperwork and is ready to be tested anytime. Donaire claims the files have not been submitted. Casimero's camp can submit it easily with no problem and check what will be the next thing that Donaire will ask after that.

Or maybe promotions so they are making sounds? :)

Part of publicity to create noise and attract more interested readers and fans? not sure but it's always this way,

promoters needs to think of something to gain interest from those people who loves this sports, both fighters have good numbers of fans,

those excuses might have valid reasons or also possible that both camps are creating things that can triggered fans to go side by side
and shows their supports from whoever they think have that edge to win.


Eventually, such publicity works for so several years. Not only in the Philippines but all over the world especially the world of boxing (sometimes happen to MMA/UFC). If we can remember Mayweather and Mcgregor fights, it makes sense and it gives hypes to the tournament.

I see the confidence in both of them to win but let see what they can do during the fight. And who gonna win this might have a chance to fight against "The Monster" Inonue. Little bit excited, though.

I think this is not just publicity, maybe Donaire has found a bigger opportunity and that is the rematch between Inoue. Bob Arum came into the picture, I don't know how much was offered but at the end of the day, we know it's just all about money.

Donaire has become a coward due to trash-talking of Casimero, but it was them who criticize Casimero's English, but if this fight will not happen, then bad for Donaire as Inoue is a tough fighter to crack, he knows that for sure.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Natalim on June 29, 2021, 01:39:05 PM

Donaire has become a coward due to trash-talking of Casimero, but it was them who criticize Casimero's English, but if this fight will not happen, then bad for Donaire as Inoue is a tough fighter to crack, he knows that for sure.

That's the issue now, and it looks like the fans are in favor of Casimero because a simple trash talk would make him demand in this fight as if he is making an excuse to delay it until it will not happen anymore. It's hard to tell what would happen but the way I see it, this mega-fight might not happen.

Maybe we will see first a Donaire vs Inoue rematch, then Inoue vs Casimero.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: milewilda on June 29, 2021, 06:53:17 PM

Donaire has become a coward due to trash-talking of Casimero, but it was them who criticize Casimero's English, but if this fight will not happen, then bad for Donaire as Inoue is a tough fighter to crack, he knows that for sure.

That's the issue now, and it looks like the fans are in favor of Casimero because a simple trash talk would make him demand in this fight as if he is making an excuse to delay it until it will not happen anymore. It's hard to tell what would happen but the way I see it, this mega-fight might not happen.

Maybe we will see first a Donaire vs Inoue rematch, then Inoue vs Casimero.
Already having the thoughts that this is just really some drama to make out some diversion of said fights.They do make out delay or would be totally be adjusting those fight just for those filipino boxers to have chance on fighting Inoue in the first place. A revenge fight for Donaire on Inoue and that most anticipated fight of Casimero and Inoue that had been in talks in the past that hadnt happen yet but if these kind of issues arises and
wont really be resolved out then this might really be ending up on this kind of scenario which i dont see for it to be bad either. Both filipinos would have the chance on fighting the monster?
Trashtalks and other verbal wars or something is typical on boxing world and it isnt surprising at all.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on June 29, 2021, 08:18:26 PM
The trash talking from both sides reminds me of the Trump vs. Biden presidential debates. I don't know how getting in the gutter is going to help promote this fight. It is only making them look bad.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Kelvinid on June 29, 2021, 09:38:36 PM
The trash talking from both sides reminds me of the Trump vs. Biden presidential debates. I don't know how getting in the gutter is going to help promote this fight. It is only making them look bad.
These are two great boxer but their teams are not working well and trash talking can affect the boxers, even if this is for promotions one thing is for sure if this fight will push through, someone will win and someone will go home crying so better for the team not to make any noise and let these both boxer do their job on the ring. I don't know the risk of not pushing this fight through, or is there a rule that this fight is necessary for both of them?

Donaire is a cry baby, he threatens Casimero to call off the fight because his family was disrespected.

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/sports/boxing/793374/nonito-donaire-threatens-to-call-off-fight-vs-john-riel-casimero-you-disrespected-my-family/story/

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WBC world bantamweight champion Nonito Donaire is having none of WBO world bantamweight world champion John Riel Casimero's shenanigans ahead of their all-Filipino unification bout on August 14.

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In a live video posted on his wife Rachel's Facebook page, Donaire went off on his foe and threatened to call off the fight.

If that's Pacquaio, he would not mind it, instead, he will just punish that fighter in the ring.

Maybe it's just a drama for Donaire to stay away from getting KO because he knows that Casimero is a strong opponent.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: DoublerHunter on June 29, 2021, 09:39:38 PM

Donaire has become a coward due to trash-talking of Casimero, but it was them who criticize Casimero's English, but if this fight will not happen, then bad for Donaire as Inoue is a tough fighter to crack, he knows that for sure.
~snip~
Maybe we will see first a Donaire vs Inoue rematch, then Inoue vs Casimero.
^ It's probably a perfect match than this.
WBC bantamweight titleholder versus the WBO bantamweight titleholder is not a perfect match for me, still, Donaire has a great advantage in this fight and Casimero will probably an underdog of this match. Naoya Inoue, who outpointed Donaire to fight will probably good to watch and I hope there I also schedule both of them too or the Rigondeaux and Donaire rematch is also had a chance to be scheduled soon.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Yaunfitda on June 29, 2021, 10:55:13 PM
The trash talking from both sides reminds me of the Trump vs. Biden presidential debates. I don't know how getting in the gutter is going to help promote this fight. It is only making them look bad.
Trash talking is very normal and some great fighters prove that those who trash talk will suffer big time on the ring so I don’t see the reason why they are going to cancel the fight if Casimero didn’t stop from talking non-sense. That’s very unprofessional for both teams, they should push this one and stop crying for both sides.

Donaire will walk out of this fight if Casimero will not adhere to VADA, I don't see him cancelling the fight because of trash talking. Been a long time since we saw a Filipino vs Filipino fight in recent years so obviously there will be trash talking as they have crossed paths in the past. So this fight will push through, this is big for Donaire as he has been chasing Inoue for a rematch and the only barrier for that to happen is Casimero.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Twinkledoe on June 29, 2021, 10:58:06 PM
The trash talking from both sides reminds me of the Trump vs. Biden presidential debates. I don't know how getting in the gutter is going to help promote this fight. It is only making them look bad.
Trash talking is very normal and some great fighters prove that those who trash talk will suffer big time on the ring so I don’t see the reason why they are going to cancel the fight if Casimero didn’t stop from talking non-sense. That’s very unprofessional for both teams, they should push this one and stop crying for both sides.

Donaire will walk out of this fight if Casimero will not adhere to VADA, I don't see him cancelling the fight because of trash talking. Been a long time since we saw a Filipino vs Filipino fight in recent years so obviously there will be trash talking as they have crossed paths in the past. So this fight will push through, this is big for Donaire as he has been chasing Inoue for a rematch and the only barrier for that to happen is Casimero.

There's no need for trash talking here as both are Filipinos, same flag they are wearing here. Anyway, maybe, this is another marketing propaganda, just to earn interest from boxing fans. We don't know their ulterior motives. But yes, Donaire has the motivation to win on this match, because Inoue is waiting for him for the rematch. If he wins, it will be interesting to see his rematch with Inoue, and for sure it will be one of the next big fights to look forward to.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Lanatsa on June 29, 2021, 10:59:44 PM
The trash talking from both sides reminds me of the Trump vs. Biden presidential debates. I don't know how getting in the gutter is going to help promote this fight. It is only making them look bad.
Trash talking is very normal and some great fighters prove that those who trash talk will suffer big time on the ring so I don’t see the reason why they are going to cancel the fight if Casimero didn’t stop from talking non-sense. That’s very unprofessional for both teams, they should push this one and stop crying for both sides.

Donaire will walk out of this fight if Casimero will not adhere to VADA, I don't see him cancelling the fight because of trash talking. Been a long time since we saw a Filipino vs Filipino fight in recent years so obviously there will be trash talking as they have crossed paths in the past. So this fight will push through, this is big for Donaire as he has been chasing Inoue for a rematch and the only barrier for that to happen is Casimero.
Why cant just simply the team of Casimero would comply on whats been asked?If they aren't hiding something then this thing wont be a bothersome and let just the fight happen.

Trash talking are part of the game and this isn't a reason or a valid reason that the fight wont proceed or happen just because the opposing team just make out some trash talks?
What a kind of reasoning is that.

Doesn't matter if theyre both same nationality as long they would able to fight Inoue then that what matter most.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Kemarit on June 30, 2021, 02:07:32 AM
The trash talking from both sides reminds me of the Trump vs. Biden presidential debates. I don't know how getting in the gutter is going to help promote this fight. It is only making them look bad.
Trash talking is very normal and some great fighters prove that those who trash talk will suffer big time on the ring so I don’t see the reason why they are going to cancel the fight if Casimero didn’t stop from talking non-sense. That’s very unprofessional for both teams, they should push this one and stop crying for both sides.
people who have become professionals they shouldn't talk too much and immediately end it by dueling and showing the strength of who will be the winner after that happens I'm sure they won't often talk rubbish to each other because it's been proven by the battles they've done.

I think the trash talking is all for the wrong reasons though, so I agree that they shouldn't attack each other personally. Much better if Casimero will just zip his mouth and just respect his fellow Filipino here. Of course we love to hear them trash talk to promote the fight, but I don't know, I have a feeling that it seems they are trying to hard to do it, specially John Riel.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: lienfaye on June 30, 2021, 02:12:00 AM
If that's Pacquaio, he would not mind it, instead, he will just punish that fighter in the ring.
Yes it would be better to show your anger during the fight as if you're getting revenge.
This fight is between both filipinos but not a friendly one, what seems to be the problem?
Is it Casimero for not complying yet to drug testing conducted by VADA? or the trash talking he made towards Donaire's family?


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Oasisman on June 30, 2021, 02:21:50 AM
The trash talking from both sides reminds me of the Trump vs. Biden presidential debates. I don't know how getting in the gutter is going to help promote this fight. It is only making them look bad.
Trash talking is very normal and some great fighters prove that those who trash talk will suffer big time on the ring so I don’t see the reason why they are going to cancel the fight if Casimero didn’t stop from talking non-sense. That’s very unprofessional for both teams, they should push this one and stop crying for both sides.
people who have become professionals they shouldn't talk too much and immediately end it by dueling and showing the strength of who will be the winner after that happens I'm sure they won't often talk rubbish to each other because it's been proven by the battles they've done.

I think the trash talking is all for the wrong reasons though, so I agree that they shouldn't attack each other personally. Much better if Casimero will just zip his mouth and just respect his fellow Filipino here. Of course we love to hear them trash talk to promote the fight, but I don't know, I have a feeling that it seems they are trying to hard to do it, specially John Riel.

They are indeed trying so hard to sell this fight. I mean they're going to make a noise in social media even if it means that the trash talking is going too far as long as they can sell the fight.
They're both Filipinos so it's inevitable not to think they're not going to sell this fight unlike when they're fighting against other races. And so, this is the result.
I have seen boxers and fighters who trash talk too much during the pre-fight pres conference, but they're actually a nice person in real life.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on June 30, 2021, 04:00:33 AM
Nonito released a statement saying the fight is cancelled:

I STAND
I am known to take stands people are afraid to take. I STAND for VADA 24/7/365 testing for ALL boxers. This should never be refused or delayed. I stand against BULLYING in any form. I STAND against the disrespect and ABUSE of women and children physically, mentally and emotionally. AND I STAND against misogynistic culture. A grown man recently told the mother of my boys to 'snack on his ----'. We cannot ignore this unprofessional behavior. We cannot excuse the disgusting trolling memes created of my wife as 'just for entertainment'. I don't want other pro athletes to cross this line and think this type of behavior is acceptable. We have to maintain a respectable character, especially online, for the future generations to emulate, and not promote ignorance and foul behavior. For the boxing culture to change, promoters and networks should veer away from unacceptable behavior and not encourage it. That being said, as we've stated before, we cancelled this fight when they delayed turning in the VADA paperwork for 5 days. We have proof that the opposing side was neither honest nor forthcoming in providing the proper information to begin VADA drug testing. AFTER we cancelled the fight, then and only then did the paperwork suddenly appear. I do what I say. And as much as I want to knock him out, I'm going to take the high road and instead of highlighting his misbehaviors, I'm not going to give his example the stage or the payday that comes with it.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Sanitough on June 30, 2021, 12:23:43 PM

I've read a news today on social media, Donaire are so serious about cancelling the fight because Casimero attacks the family of Donaire which makes him mad. I don't know if this is just a way to sell their fight, to make heat on this match but this is indeed unacceptable so I think Donaire is making a good decision here but for sure, money will still be a matter for both teams, we'll see on August.

I see some memes saying.

When Mayorga disrespected De la hoya's wife, De la hoya knock Mayorga in the ring.
Now, Donaire's wife was disrespected according to him, Donaire cancels the fight, this Filipino fight has no class and he has a lot of haters now, especially the wife of Donaire who happened to be his manager as well.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: bisdak40 on June 30, 2021, 12:49:11 PM
When Mayorga disrespected De la hoya's wife, De la hoya knock Mayorga in the ring.
Now, Donaire's wife was disrespected according to him, Donaire cancels the fight, this Filipino fight has no class and he has a lot of haters now, especially the wife of Donaire who happened to be his manager as well.

If only Rachel Donaire is not into this word war with Casimero i think everything going to work out well.

I just don't know what's with the mind Of Nonito's manager that it ended this way or they are too greedy that they think they would lose to Casimero if this fight happens and that rematch with Inoue won't become a reality.

Samson got Delilah while Nonito got Rachel, the cause of his downfall lol.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Hypnosis00 on June 30, 2021, 01:56:14 PM
When Mayorga disrespected De la hoya's wife, De la hoya knock Mayorga in the ring.
Now, Donaire's wife was disrespected according to him, Donaire cancels the fight, this Filipino fight has no class and he has a lot of haters now, especially the wife of Donaire who happened to be his manager as well.

If only Rachel Donaire is not into this word war with Casimero i think everything going to work out well.

I just don't know what's with the mind Of Nonito's manager that it ended this way or they are too greedy that they think they would lose to Casimero if this fight happens and that rematch with Inoue won't become a reality.

Samson got Delilah while Nonito got Rachel, the cause of his downfall lol.

That's the problem when the manager is a woman, they are too sensitive and since Donaire is his husband, he can always influence the decision of Donaire. This fight will not happen for sure, with this war of words, they are just destroying each other and the fans will be divided.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: DU18 on June 30, 2021, 03:00:04 PM
Nonito released a statement saying the fight is cancelled:

I STAND
I am known to take stands people are afraid to take. I STAND for VADA 24/7/365 testing for ALL boxers. This should never be refused or delayed. I stand against BULLYING in any form. I STAND against the disrespect and ABUSE of women and children physically, mentally and emotionally. AND I STAND against misogynistic culture. A grown man recently told the mother of my boys to 'snack on his ----'. We cannot ignore this unprofessional behavior. We cannot excuse the disgusting trolling memes created of my wife as 'just for entertainment'. I don't want other pro athletes to cross this line and think this type of behavior is acceptable. We have to maintain a respectable character, especially online, for the future generations to emulate, and not promote ignorance and foul behavior. For the boxing culture to change, promoters and networks should veer away from unacceptable behavior and not encourage it. That being said, as we've stated before, we cancelled this fight when they delayed turning in the VADA paperwork for 5 days. We have proof that the opposing side was neither honest nor forthcoming in providing the proper information to begin VADA drug testing. AFTER we cancelled the fight, then and only then did the paperwork suddenly appear. I do what I say. And as much as I want to knock him out, I'm going to take the high road and instead of highlighting his misbehaviors, I'm not going to give his example the stage or the payday that comes with it.
I think with him canceling the fight, of course the public will judge if he has no professionalism at all, before the fight happens I think it's natural for fighters to provoke each other with war of words but I don't think he can take a stupid enough decision to cancel that fight, if you look at some boxing fights like Tyson Fury vs Dillian Whyte, we can see how the two fighters even mocked each other before the fight started, as well as the UFC fight between khabib vs mcgregor of course everyone still remembers how mcgregor kept insulting khabib before match, but in the end khabib was able to answer the insults by defeating mcgregor in the octagon. I think the case is the same as what happened between Rachel Donaire Vs Casimero today, I think the right answer to silence every mockery of the opponent is to beat him in the ring,and instead of canceling the match.....! ;D


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Baofeng on June 30, 2021, 06:05:32 PM
And this is what Inoue has to say about this fight:

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"I am going with Donaire in dramatic style," believes Inoue, who outpointed Donaire in their sensational November 2019 WBA/IBF unification clash.

https://www.boxingscene.com/inoue-predicts-donaire-beat-casimero-dramatic-style--158807

So just like the majority of boxing and Filipino fans is predicting as well, Donaire will have the edge base on experience and power alone.

I do hope that Casimero will subject himself to the testing as not to jeopardised this fight. We have heard that Donaire is threatening to way away in they will not settle on the VADA testing.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Fatunad on June 30, 2021, 06:15:14 PM
Nonito released a statement saying the fight is cancelled:

I STAND
I am known to take stands people are afraid to take. I STAND for VADA 24/7/365 testing for ALL boxers. This should never be refused or delayed. I stand against BULLYING in any form. I STAND against the disrespect and ABUSE of women and children physically, mentally and emotionally. AND I STAND against misogynistic culture. A grown man recently told the mother of my boys to 'snack on his ----'. We cannot ignore this unprofessional behavior. We cannot excuse the disgusting trolling memes created of my wife as 'just for entertainment'. I don't want other pro athletes to cross this line and think this type of behavior is acceptable. We have to maintain a respectable character, especially online, for the future generations to emulate, and not promote ignorance and foul behavior. For the boxing culture to change, promoters and networks should veer away from unacceptable behavior and not encourage it. That being said, as we've stated before, we cancelled this fight when they delayed turning in the VADA paperwork for 5 days. We have proof that the opposing side was neither honest nor forthcoming in providing the proper information to begin VADA drug testing. AFTER we cancelled the fight, then and only then did the paperwork suddenly appear. I do what I say. And as much as I want to knock him out, I'm going to take the high road and instead of highlighting his misbehaviors, I'm not going to give his example the stage or the payday that comes with it.
I think with him canceling the fight, of course the public will judge if he has no professionalism at all, before the fight happens I think it's natural for fighters to provoke each other with war of words but I don't think he can take a stupid enough decision to cancel that fight, if you look at some boxing fights like Tyson Fury vs Dillian Whyte, we can see how the two fighters even mocked each other before the fight started, as well as the UFC fight between khabib vs mcgregor of course everyone still remembers how mcgregor kept insulting khabib before match, but in the end khabib was able to answer the insults by defeating mcgregor in the octagon. I think the case is the same as what happened between Rachel Donaire Vs Casimero today, I think the right answer to silence every mockery of the opponent is to beat him in the ring,and instead of canceling the match.....! ;D

I would rather see this as part of his Ego as you can read up on the statement which i do considered valid which i dont see anything wrong with it.If their camp had decided to cancel out the fight then they are capable to do so and any team or camp unless if its mandatory and does have that big penalty then they would be surely have doubts or hesitance in doing so.For Donaire insights about Casimero then having that kind of request isnt
really that an insult just like what most people been saying here because it could really be that part and just like what been said if they arent hiding something then they would just simply agree with that without
any problems but it seems the other team doesnt really like with these kind of terms but well its their own point of view.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: bL4nkcode on June 30, 2021, 06:38:48 PM
Much better if Casimero will just zip his mouth and just respect his fellow Filipino here.
That would be another level of casimero if he will be silent, it's style though, but it's proven that those talks becomes power when he fights.

I do hope that Casimero will subject himself to the testing as not to jeopardised this fight. We have heard that Donaire is threatening to way away in they will not settle on the VADA testing.
It's already settled https://twitter.com/Vada_Testing/status/1408928907386970116

But that fight is off as donaire's team announced.



I actually want casimero-inoue instead, I already predict that donaire will still be defeated against inoue base on his previous fight, he's becoming so slow that he always throw his left, he just have his left - a powerful left, that is, and nothing else.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Fredomago on June 30, 2021, 08:05:04 PM

I've read a news today on social media, Donaire are so serious about cancelling the fight because Casimero attacks the family of Donaire which makes him mad. I don't know if this is just a way to sell their fight, to make heat on this match but this is indeed unacceptable so I think Donaire is making a good decision here but for sure, money will still be a matter for both teams, we'll see on August.

I see some memes saying.

When Mayorga disrespected De la hoya's wife, De la hoya knock Mayorga in the ring.
Now, Donaire's wife was disrespected according to him, Donaire cancels the fight, this Filipino fight has no class and he has a lot of haters now, especially the wife of Donaire who happened to be his manager as well.

That's the better way to shows up your disappointment with your opponents, not how Donaire act and cancelling the fight.
If they are aiming for more talks about the fight, there are other ways of trash talks and let the fans engagements flows. Unlike with
what happened after this disrespect issue,

they are not bringing interest but hates to those who read this article who are waiting for this possible fight, disappointment throw
fans attentions and interest.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Botnake on June 30, 2021, 09:07:54 PM

I've read a news today on social media, Donaire are so serious about cancelling the fight because Casimero attacks the family of Donaire which makes him mad. I don't know if this is just a way to sell their fight, to make heat on this match but this is indeed unacceptable so I think Donaire is making a good decision here but for sure, money will still be a matter for both teams, we'll see on August.

I see some memes saying.

When Mayorga disrespected De la hoya's wife, De la hoya knock Mayorga in the ring.
Now, Donaire's wife was disrespected according to him, Donaire cancels the fight, this Filipino fight has no class and he has a lot of haters now, especially the wife of Donaire who happened to be his manager as well.

That's the better way to shows up your disappointment with your opponents, not how Donaire act and cancelling the fight.
If they are aiming for more talks about the fight, there are other ways of trash talks and let the fans engagements flows. Unlike with
what happened after this disrespect issue,

they are not bringing interest but hates to those who read this article who are waiting for this possible fight, disappointment throw
fans attentions and interest.

Let's call it as an excuse on Donaire's side, they would never do that if the opponent is not a Filipino.

You know, they think they are really superior and it's actually Donaire's camp who are not respecting Casimero, we know for sure that Casimero's tirade was just part of selling the fight, but Donaire's camp was too serious and demanded respect thinking they are even better than the humble Manny Pacman. All I can say is that Donaire is killing the excitement of the fans, if this fight will be officially canceled, he will lose Filipino supporters.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Quidat on June 30, 2021, 09:20:56 PM

I've read a news today on social media, Donaire are so serious about cancelling the fight because Casimero attacks the family of Donaire which makes him mad. I don't know if this is just a way to sell their fight, to make heat on this match but this is indeed unacceptable so I think Donaire is making a good decision here but for sure, money will still be a matter for both teams, we'll see on August.

I see some memes saying.

When Mayorga disrespected De la hoya's wife, De la hoya knock Mayorga in the ring.
Now, Donaire's wife was disrespected according to him, Donaire cancels the fight, this Filipino fight has no class and he has a lot of haters now, especially the wife of Donaire who happened to be his manager as well.

That's the better way to shows up your disappointment with your opponents, not how Donaire act and cancelling the fight.
If they are aiming for more talks about the fight, there are other ways of trash talks and let the fans engagements flows. Unlike with
what happened after this disrespect issue,

they are not bringing interest but hates to those who read this article who are waiting for this possible fight, disappointment throw
fans attentions and interest.

Let's call it as an excuse on Donaire's side, they would never do that if the opponent is not a Filipino.

You know, they think they are really superior and it's actually Donaire's camp who are not respecting Casimero, we know for sure that Casimero's tirade was just part of selling the fight, but Donaire's camp was too serious and demanded respect thinking they are even better than the humble Manny Pacman. All I can say is that Donaire is killing the excitement of the fans, if this fight will be officially canceled, he will lose Filipino supporters.
Not sure if they wouldnt still demand if the opponent wasnt a Filipino or just they are trying to make some issue here to make some spice before the fight and make more some controversies or something.
This doesnt show any disrespect since its just a request but if this fight wont push through then theres tendency that Donaire will be having some rematch against Inoue and Casimero would just
be next on the line and i dont see that Casimero is better than Donaire in terms of experience and i dont believe on losing fans after this issue.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Botnake on June 30, 2021, 09:32:43 PM

I've read a news today on social media, Donaire are so serious about cancelling the fight because Casimero attacks the family of Donaire which makes him mad. I don't know if this is just a way to sell their fight, to make heat on this match but this is indeed unacceptable so I think Donaire is making a good decision here but for sure, money will still be a matter for both teams, we'll see on August.

I see some memes saying.

When Mayorga disrespected De la hoya's wife, De la hoya knock Mayorga in the ring.
Now, Donaire's wife was disrespected according to him, Donaire cancels the fight, this Filipino fight has no class and he has a lot of haters now, especially the wife of Donaire who happened to be his manager as well.

That's the better way to shows up your disappointment with your opponents, not how Donaire act and cancelling the fight.
If they are aiming for more talks about the fight, there are other ways of trash talks and let the fans engagements flows. Unlike with
what happened after this disrespect issue,

they are not bringing interest but hates to those who read this article who are waiting for this possible fight, disappointment throw
fans attentions and interest.

Let's call it as an excuse on Donaire's side, they would never do that if the opponent is not a Filipino.

You know, they think they are really superior and it's actually Donaire's camp who are not respecting Casimero, we know for sure that Casimero's tirade was just part of selling the fight, but Donaire's camp was too serious and demanded respect thinking they are even better than the humble Manny Pacman. All I can say is that Donaire is killing the excitement of the fans, if this fight will be officially canceled, he will lose Filipino supporters.
Not sure if they wouldnt still demand if the opponent wasnt a Filipino or just they are trying to make some issue here to make some spice before the fight and make more some controversies or something.
This doesnt show any disrespect since its just a request but if this fight wont push through then theres tendency that Donaire will be having some rematch against Inoue and Casimero would just
be next on the line and i dont see that Casimero is better than Donaire in terms of experience and i dont believe on losing fans after this issue.

According to Casimero's camp, they ask their promoter to cancel the Rigo fight to gave way to Donaire since they were a challenge and they think it's a great fight, but this messed happened, so they really have no commitment, they are destroying a supposed to be a great fight between Casimero and Rigo just for their greedy personal interest as Donaire will have a fight with Inoue.

you know what? when Bob Arum came into the picture, things have flip, and Arum knows Inoue would be able to beat the old Donaire again.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: chaser15 on June 30, 2021, 09:55:38 PM
The fight is off but there's no official announcement to that. It's more of a pure statement out of anger, disappointment or anything else.

Until we don't see any news about the formal announcement coming from the promoters themselves that the flight is officially cancelled, then there's always a chance that the fight will happen.

There some things that are currently ongoing some fix as the fight is still over a month to go. Enough time to settle the dispute.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: tippytoes on June 30, 2021, 10:12:18 PM
The fight is off but there's no official announcement to that. It's more of a pure statement out of anger, disappointment or anything else.

Until we don't see any news about the formal announcement coming from the promoters themselves that the flight is officially cancelled, then there's always a chance that the fight will happen.

There some things that are currently ongoing some fix as the fight is still over a month to go. Enough time to settle the dispute.

Upon reading the article - https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/nonito-donaire-cancels-unification-fight-with-john-riel-casimero-over-insults-hurled-at-his-wife/, I believe this fight will not push thru anymore. As Casimero's camp crossed the line of disrespecting Donaire's wife, I don't think Donaire will still push thru this fight. Donaire is right, one should maintain a respectable character no matter what. Now, we don't know if there is still Donaire-Inoue fight, if this one will be totally shelved.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on June 30, 2021, 10:54:47 PM

It's already settled https://twitter.com/Vada_Testing/status/1408928907386970116

But that fight is off as donaire's team announced.


There are different levels to VADA testing. Since Donaire is the A-side he has the right to demand more stringent testing and this was what Casimero wouldn't agree to until it was too late. Casimero and his representative have been rubbing people the wrong way and it is coming back to bite them, missing out on a big payday.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: agustina2 on June 30, 2021, 11:00:28 PM
As Casimero's camp crossed the line of disrespecting Donaire's wife, I don't think Donaire will still push thru this fight. Donaire is right, one should maintain a respectable character no matter what.

It's a great chance to solved the issues on the ring on which Donaire doesn't want to do it anymore. It's even more inspiring to crash Casimero because of the incident but Donaire just decided and finalized it already that no more fight anymore. If he really wants to give Casimero a lesson, then he should bring this guy into losing.

As to my last post here, I still believe that this is still part of the promotion for me as their promoters or boxing organization are not saying anything about the incident. They should at least gave a statement beforehand when the issue is just new.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: ultrloa on June 30, 2021, 11:04:56 PM
As Casimero's camp crossed the line of disrespecting Donaire's wife, I don't think Donaire will still push thru this fight. Donaire is right, one should maintain a respectable character no matter what.

It's a great chance to solved the issues on the ring on which Donaire doesn't want to do it anymore. It's even more inspiring to crash Casimero because of the incident but Donaire just decided and finalized it already that no more fight anymore. If he really wants to give Casimero a lesson, then he should bring this guy into losing.

As to my last post here, I still believe that this is still part of the promotion for me as their promoters or boxing organization are not saying anything about the incident. They should at least gave a statement beforehand when the issue is just new.

Cancelling it due to that matter doesn't prove anything if Donaire really want to condemn what Casimero did then he must prove it inside the ring, And he should expect that things since thats how the hype start so hopefully they still have a plan to continue this fight since fans would really love to see on who will win among those two Filipino great boxers in this generation.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Twinkledoe on June 30, 2021, 11:11:32 PM
As Casimero's camp crossed the line of disrespecting Donaire's wife, I don't think Donaire will still push thru this fight. Donaire is right, one should maintain a respectable character no matter what.

It's a great chance to solved the issues on the ring on which Donaire doesn't want to do it anymore. It's even more inspiring to crash Casimero because of the incident but Donaire just decided and finalized it already that no more fight anymore. If he really wants to give Casimero a lesson, then he should bring this guy into losing.

As to my last post here, I still believe that this is still part of the promotion for me as their promoters or boxing organization are not saying anything about the incident. They should at least gave a statement beforehand when the issue is just new.

Cancelling it due to that matter doesn't prove anything if Donaire really want to condemn what Casimero did then he must prove it inside the ring, And he should expect that things since thats how the hype start so hopefully they still have a plan to continue this fight since fans would really love to see on who will win among those two Filipino great boxers in this generation.

Yes, it is better to settle this inside the ring and give him the lesson he deserved. Let us see if Donaire will change his mind. If the promoters will see that this fight will fetch a good purse in the market, maybe, they will convince Donaire to push thru this fight. Anything can happen here. And this fight will determine who will face Inoue, so this is quite important.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Hippocrypto on June 30, 2021, 11:33:10 PM
This is really a big fight, and I bet on Donaire in the first place because he got the big edge on this match.
With his attitude and humbleness despite of their conflicts, I believed that there's really a deep emotions coming through when their fight is going to commence.
Donaire will really dump his punches and will show no mercy for Casimero, which will eventually made him learned from all the mistakes he made.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: AmoreJaz on June 30, 2021, 11:52:07 PM
This is really a big fight, and I bet on Donaire in the first place because he got the big edge on this match.
With his attitude and humbleness despite of their conflicts, I believed that there's really a deep emotions coming through when their fight is going to commence.
Donaire will really dump his punches and will show no mercy for Casimero, which will eventually made him learned from all the mistakes he made.

i dont know what it is going take for Donaire to push thru this fight as he already cancelled from his side? though no official announcements yet if this is indeed a shelved fight. what will happen to the upcoming Inoue fight here if this Donaire-Casimero will not push thru?
we can't do anything much but wait if this fight will still push thru...


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Lanatsa on June 30, 2021, 11:55:46 PM
This is really a big fight, and I bet on Donaire in the first place because he got the big edge on this match.
With his attitude and humbleness despite of their conflicts, I believed that there's really a deep emotions coming through when their fight is going to commence.
Donaire will really dump his punches and will show no mercy for Casimero, which will eventually made him learned from all the mistakes he made.

i dont know what it is going take for Donaire to push thru this fight as he already cancelled from his side? though no official announcements yet if this is indeed a shelved fight. what will happen to the upcoming Inoue fight here if this Donaire-Casimero will not push thru?
we can't do anything much but wait if this fight will still push thru...
If its cancelled then theres nothing we can do and in that case then Inoue-Casimero fight might push through but others said it would be might on Donaire.

Don't know on why they do really make this big which in result into cancellation and fans of both fighters are really eager nor excited to see for these boxers to fight in the ring.

The potential winner could  really have the chance on fighting the monster but it seems it is impossible as of this moment.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: electronicash on July 01, 2021, 03:54:14 AM
This is really a big fight, and I bet on Donaire in the first place because he got the big edge on this match.
With his attitude and humbleness despite of their conflicts, I believed that there's really a deep emotions coming through when their fight is going to commence.
Donaire will really dump his punches and will show no mercy for Casimero, which will eventually made him learned from all the mistakes he made.

i dont know what it is going take for Donaire to push thru this fight as he already cancelled from his side? though no official announcements yet if this is indeed a shelved fight. what will happen to the upcoming Inoue fight here if this Donaire-Casimero will not push thru?
we can't do anything much but wait if this fight will still push thru...
If its cancelled then theres nothing we can do and in that case then Inoue-Casimero fight might push through but others said it would be might on Donaire.

Don't know on why they do really make this big which in result into cancellation and fans of both fighters are really eager nor excited to see for these boxers to fight in the ring.

The potential winner could  really have the chance on fighting the monster but it seems it is impossible as of this moment.

all because of the drug test. that's a good excuse to cancel.
inoue-casimero fight will be making more money than donaire-casimero so maybe they figured there is less Filipino who will watch the fight the fact that there's still covid. If they however do it somewhere else like MGM, they'd probably get some amount still from las vegas tourists. watching Donaire vs Casimero fight in Araneta might just be the last thing that a Pinoy will think of in the middle pandemic. 





Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: bitterguy28 on July 01, 2021, 06:32:43 AM
This is really a big fight, and I bet on Donaire in the first place because he got the big edge on this match.
With his attitude and humbleness despite of their conflicts, I believed that there's really a deep emotions coming through when their fight is going to commence.
Donaire will really dump his punches and will show no mercy for Casimero, which will eventually made him learned from all the mistakes he made.

i dont know what it is going take for Donaire to push thru this fight as he already cancelled from his side? though no official announcements yet if this is indeed a shelved fight. what will happen to the upcoming Inoue fight here if this Donaire-Casimero will not push thru?
we can't do anything much but wait if this fight will still push thru...
If its cancelled then theres nothing we can do and in that case then Inoue-Casimero fight might push through but others said it would be might on Donaire.

Don't know on why they do really make this big which in result into cancellation and fans of both fighters are really eager nor excited to see for these boxers to fight in the ring.

The potential winner could  really have the chance on fighting the monster but it seems it is impossible as of this moment.

all because of the drug test. that's a good excuse to cancel.
inoue-casimero fight will be making more money than donaire-casimero so maybe they figured there is less Filipino who will watch the fight the fact that there's still covid. If they however do it somewhere else like MGM, they'd probably get some amount still from las vegas tourists. watching Donaire vs Casimero fight in Araneta might just be the last thing that a Pinoy will think of in the middle pandemic. 




If this fight will be cancelled then for sure there is only one reason and that is they did not meet the attraction they want and lures no support from the boxing community.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on July 01, 2021, 09:41:51 AM
This is really a big fight, and I bet on Donaire in the first place because he got the big edge on this match.
With his attitude and humbleness despite of their conflicts, I believed that there's really a deep emotions coming through when their fight is going to commence.
Donaire will really dump his punches and will show no mercy for Casimero, which will eventually made him learned from all the mistakes he made.

i dont know what it is going take for Donaire to push thru this fight as he already cancelled from his side? though no official announcements yet if this is indeed a shelved fight. what will happen to the upcoming Inoue fight here if this Donaire-Casimero will not push thru?
we can't do anything much but wait if this fight will still push thru...
Well Casimero is scheduled to fight Rigo, so that might happened. And we might see Donaire vs Inoue first before Inoue vs Casimero. Just sad to hear though that this fight is not going to happen because Donaire is walking out not just because of the VADA testing but the camp of Casimero attacking Rachel in public and Nonito deemed it as inappropriate and bullying.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Natalim on July 01, 2021, 09:51:53 AM

If this fight will be cancelled then for sure there is only one reason and that is they did not meet the attraction they want and lures no support from the boxing community.

This fight will gain attraction, the reason was very clear, Donaire cools off the fight because he believes he and his family got disrespected.

Now, there's a lot of challenge on Donaire, even Rigo challenge him, and said no trash talk, just pure fight.
Both Rigo and Inoue beat him, I think he will not win in a rematch, he just wants more money here.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Russlenat on July 01, 2021, 10:03:15 AM
This is really a big fight, and I bet on Donaire in the first place because he got the big edge on this match.
With his attitude and humbleness despite of their conflicts, I believed that there's really a deep emotions coming through when their fight is going to commence.
Donaire will really dump his punches and will show no mercy for Casimero, which will eventually made him learned from all the mistakes he made.

i dont know what it is going take for Donaire to push thru this fight as he already cancelled from his side? though no official announcements yet if this is indeed a shelved fight. what will happen to the upcoming Inoue fight here if this Donaire-Casimero will not push thru?
we can't do anything much but wait if this fight will still push thru...
Well Casimero is scheduled to fight Rigo, so that might happened. And we might see Donaire vs Inoue first before Inoue vs Casimero. Just sad to hear though that this fight is not going to happen because Donaire is walking out not just because of the VADA testing but the camp of Casimero attacking Rachel in public and Nonito deemed it as inappropriate and bullying.

I guess that's where this is all going, Donaire vs Inoue (rematch), Donaire would still lose the game, and Casimero vs Rigo and Casimero will win.
That's my prediction.

It will be Casimero vs Inoue in the end, and I don't know anymore who would win.

All the trashtalk is just making it interesting, but it's more interesting if they make it to the ring and stop talking.

Now, there's a lot of challenge on Donaire, even Rigo challenge him, and said no trash talk, just pure fight.


Donaire is not getting any younger, he would go for the best opponent with big reward if he will win, and that is against Inoue.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Yaunfitda on July 01, 2021, 10:41:54 AM

If this fight will be cancelled then for sure there is only one reason and that is they did not meet the attraction they want and lures no support from the boxing community.

This fight will gain attraction, the reason was very clear, Donaire cools off the fight because he believes he and his family got disrespected.

Now, there's a lot of challenge on Donaire, even Rigo challenge him, and said no trash talk, just pure fight.
Both Rigo and Inoue beat him, I think he will not win in a rematch, he just wants more money here.
There could be people who don't understand Nonito for walking about from this fight, but he has to stand his ground and protect his family and that's what's important to him. Besides, he still has the name that can bring any fighter including Inoue. So he potential for a unification bout is still there (minus Casimero's belt). It was a tactical fight on the Rigo bout, if I'm not mistaken, Rigo went down, but he is ahead on the judges scorecard that's why he won.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: arwin100 on July 01, 2021, 12:25:03 PM

If this fight will be cancelled then for sure there is only one reason and that is they did not meet the attraction they want and lures no support from the boxing community.

This fight will gain attraction, the reason was very clear, Donaire cools off the fight because he believes he and his family got disrespected.

Now, there's a lot of challenge on Donaire, even Rigo challenge him, and said no trash talk, just pure fight.
Both Rigo and Inoue beat him, I think he will not win in a rematch, he just wants more money here.
There could be people who don't understand Nonito for walking about from this fight, but he has to stand his ground and protect his family and that's what's important to him. Besides, he still has the name that can bring any fighter including Inoue. So he potential for a unification bout is still there (minus Casimero's belt). It was a tactical fight on the Rigo bout, if I'm not mistaken, Rigo went down, but he is ahead on the judges scorecard that's why he won.

That's  his stand and we must respect it since we have different outlook about on certain situations. And if I am Donaire I will do the same since our family  is outside on this event so casimero shouldn't attack them since its really unprofessional.

But we don't know what's in mind of Casimero since maybe this is just part of marketing on his side and I still want this  fight to happen.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Japinat on July 01, 2021, 12:59:19 PM

If this fight will be cancelled then for sure there is only one reason and that is they did not meet the attraction they want and lures no support from the boxing community.

This fight will gain attraction, the reason was very clear, Donaire cools off the fight because he believes he and his family got disrespected.

Now, there's a lot of challenge on Donaire, even Rigo challenge him, and said no trash talk, just pure fight.
Both Rigo and Inoue beat him, I think he will not win in a rematch, he just wants more money here.
There could be people who don't understand Nonito for walking about from this fight, but he has to stand his ground and protect his family and that's what's important to him. Besides, he still has the name that can bring any fighter including Inoue. So he potential for a unification bout is still there (minus Casimero's belt). It was a tactical fight on the Rigo bout, if I'm not mistaken, Rigo went down, but he is ahead on the judges scorecard that's why he won.

It was Rigo who dominated the fight, he has good boxing skills and Donaire was not able to catch up with him. In an interview, Donaire did not accept his defeat by making an excuse that he did not study Rigo, and I think that's so stupid knowing Rigo is a decent fighter, a champion, and has more experience than him. Sometimes, I think that Donaire is way too confident that one day his career will be over.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Jating on July 01, 2021, 01:12:55 PM

If this fight will be cancelled then for sure there is only one reason and that is they did not meet the attraction they want and lures no support from the boxing community.

This fight will gain attraction, the reason was very clear, Donaire cools off the fight because he believes he and his family got disrespected.

Now, there's a lot of challenge on Donaire, even Rigo challenge him, and said no trash talk, just pure fight.
Both Rigo and Inoue beat him, I think he will not win in a rematch, he just wants more money here.
There could be people who don't understand Nonito for walking about from this fight, but he has to stand his ground and protect his family and that's what's important to him. Besides, he still has the name that can bring any fighter including Inoue. So he potential for a unification bout is still there (minus Casimero's belt). It was a tactical fight on the Rigo bout, if I'm not mistaken, Rigo went down, but he is ahead on the judges scorecard that's why he won.

That's  his stand and we must respect it since we have different outlook about on certain situations. And if I am Donaire I will do the same since our family  is outside on this event so casimero shouldn't attack them since its really unprofessional.

But we don't know what's in mind of Casimero since maybe this is just part of marketing on his side and I still want this  fight to happen.

Casimero is always like that, so brandish and boastful but if Donaire gets offended because they involved his family, then we must respect his decision not to pursue the fight with his fellow Pinoy.

Now what options are open for Donaire, right, he might straight go at Inoue. He has the belt and the champion and based on his last fight, he can still throw and some speed in it. I do hope that Bob Arum can make the fight happen at the end of the year. Casimero will have to make his own path if he wants to fight Inoue.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Ziskinberg on July 01, 2021, 01:19:51 PM

If this fight will be cancelled then for sure there is only one reason and that is they did not meet the attraction they want and lures no support from the boxing community.

This fight will gain attraction, the reason was very clear, Donaire cools off the fight because he believes he and his family got disrespected.

Now, there's a lot of challenge on Donaire, even Rigo challenge him, and said no trash talk, just pure fight.
Both Rigo and Inoue beat him, I think he will not win in a rematch, he just wants more money here.
There could be people who don't understand Nonito for walking about from this fight, but he has to stand his ground and protect his family and that's what's important to him. Besides, he still has the name that can bring any fighter including Inoue. So he potential for a unification bout is still there (minus Casimero's belt). It was a tactical fight on the Rigo bout, if I'm not mistaken, Rigo went down, but he is ahead on the judges scorecard that's why he won.

That's  his stand and we must respect it since we have different outlook about on certain situations. And if I am Donaire I will do the same since our family  is outside on this event so casimero shouldn't attack them since its really unprofessional.

But we don't know what's in mind of Casimero since maybe this is just part of marketing on his side and I still want this  fight to happen.

Casimero is always like that, so brandish and boastful but if Donaire gets offended because they involved his family, then we must respect his decision not to pursue the fight with his fellow Pinoy.

Now what options are open for Donaire, right, he might straight go at Inoue. He has the belt and the champion and based on his last fight, he can still throw and some speed in it. I do hope that Bob Arum can make the fight happen at the end of the year. Casimero will have to make his own path if he wants to fight Inoue.

Casimero will need to fight Rigo and take the belt so he will have two belts, the winner of the Inoue vs Donaire fight will have to fight Casimero but I hope Inoue would win so we will see a big fight. They are now creating some buzz, this bantam weight division has become exciting as fans are now talking about it more.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Baofeng on July 01, 2021, 04:59:48 PM
Much better if Casimero will just zip his mouth and just respect his fellow Filipino here.
That would be another level of casimero if he will be silent, it's style though, but it's proven that those talks becomes power when he fights.

I do hope that Casimero will subject himself to the testing as not to jeopardised this fight. We have heard that Donaire is threatening to way away in they will not settle on the VADA testing.
It's already settled https://twitter.com/Vada_Testing/status/1408928907386970116

But that fight is off as donaire's team announced.



I actually want casimero-inoue instead, I already predict that donaire will still be defeated against inoue base on his previous fight, he's becoming so slow that he always throw his left, he just have his left - a powerful left, that is, and nothing else.

Thanks,

Here is the video: https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1MYxNmmzMgOJw

Donaire talking about Sean Gibbons and Casimero and why he cancel the fights.

He said the Casimero is jealous or him, but Nonito has a point, touch base on some very sensitive topic but its real talk. (I personally know some boxers back in the late 90's who became a world champion but ended up nothing in the next 5-10 years).


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: carlfebz2 on July 01, 2021, 07:32:42 PM

If this fight will be cancelled then for sure there is only one reason and that is they did not meet the attraction they want and lures no support from the boxing community.

This fight will gain attraction, the reason was very clear, Donaire cools off the fight because he believes he and his family got disrespected.

Now, there's a lot of challenge on Donaire, even Rigo challenge him, and said no trash talk, just pure fight.
Both Rigo and Inoue beat him, I think he will not win in a rematch, he just wants more money here.
There could be people who don't understand Nonito for walking about from this fight, but he has to stand his ground and protect his family and that's what's important to him. Besides, he still has the name that can bring any fighter including Inoue. So he potential for a unification bout is still there (minus Casimero's belt). It was a tactical fight on the Rigo bout, if I'm not mistaken, Rigo went down, but he is ahead on the judges scorecard that's why he won.

That's  his stand and we must respect it since we have different outlook about on certain situations. And if I am Donaire I will do the same since our family  is outside on this event so casimero shouldn't attack them since its really unprofessional.

But we don't know what's in mind of Casimero since maybe this is just part of marketing on his side and I still want this  fight to happen.

Casimero is always like that, so brandish and boastful but if Donaire gets offended because they involved his family, then we must respect his decision not to pursue the fight with his fellow Pinoy.

Now what options are open for Donaire, right, he might straight go at Inoue. He has the belt and the champion and based on his last fight, he can still throw and some speed in it. I do hope that Bob Arum can make the fight happen at the end of the year. Casimero will have to make his own path if he wants to fight Inoue.
Why did these both fighters make out arrangement in the first place and ending up for it not to happen just with some small issue and later on it becomes big and causes for it to postpone the fight?

If they are making their paths to get themselves to fight Inoue then so be it but it would really be good to look at if these both fighters would really box out inside the ring

but due to some issues then it wont be happening but doesnt mean that the thrill and excitement would stop on here.Adjustments would be made for sure.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: abel1337 on July 01, 2021, 08:05:10 PM

If this fight will be cancelled then for sure there is only one reason and that is they did not meet the attraction they want and lures no support from the boxing community.

This fight will gain attraction, the reason was very clear, Donaire cools off the fight because he believes he and his family got disrespected.

Now, there's a lot of challenge on Donaire, even Rigo challenge him, and said no trash talk, just pure fight.
Both Rigo and Inoue beat him, I think he will not win in a rematch, he just wants more money here.
There could be people who don't understand Nonito for walking about from this fight, but he has to stand his ground and protect his family and that's what's important to him. Besides, he still has the name that can bring any fighter including Inoue. So he potential for a unification bout is still there (minus Casimero's belt). It was a tactical fight on the Rigo bout, if I'm not mistaken, Rigo went down, but he is ahead on the judges scorecard that's why he won.

That's  his stand and we must respect it since we have different outlook about on certain situations. And if I am Donaire I will do the same since our family  is outside on this event so casimero shouldn't attack them since its really unprofessional.

But we don't know what's in mind of Casimero since maybe this is just part of marketing on his side and I still want this  fight to happen.

Casimero is always like that, so brandish and boastful but if Donaire gets offended because they involved his family, then we must respect his decision not to pursue the fight with his fellow Pinoy.

Now what options are open for Donaire, right, he might straight go at Inoue. He has the belt and the champion and based on his last fight, he can still throw and some speed in it. I do hope that Bob Arum can make the fight happen at the end of the year. Casimero will have to make his own path if he wants to fight Inoue.
Why did these both fighters make out arrangement in the first place and ending up for it not to happen just with some small issue and later on it becomes big and causes for it to postpone the fight?

If they are making their paths to get themselves to fight Inoue then so be it but it would really be good to look at if these both fighters would really box out inside the ring

but due to some issues then it wont be happening but doesnt mean that the thrill and excitement would stop on here.Adjustments would be made for sure.
We can't blame Donaire for cancelling the match because we don't know how will the issue affects Donaire with his match against Casimero. If the match isn't cancelled, It would be a personal match for Donaire. If Casimero's goal is to provoke Donaire, I think it ends up pretty bad for Casimero for doing that unprofessional move because he lost a match against Donaire. Inoue is on a tough spot right now on who will he choose to fight, Will it be Inoue vs Donaire or Inoue vs Casimero.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Botnake on July 01, 2021, 08:38:22 PM
Casimero assure that the fight will push through so I guess they are just really trying to hype this match to attract more viewers not unless Donaire are too serious on cancelling this match. Hopefully, this will be settled now and start their training because many anticipate the match to become more brutal, August will be a month to remember for these two boxer.

I don't know if it's just pure hype, Casimero can say the fight will push through but what if Donaire would stick with his statement, this fight would not happen unless these two fighters are willing to fight each other. The controversy is too early, so IMO, there's really an intention on the Donaire's side to cancel the fight, maybe because they have found a way to fight Inoue, so bye Casimero for now.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Hamphser on July 01, 2021, 08:55:06 PM
Casimero assure that the fight will push through so I guess they are just really trying to hype this match to attract more viewers not unless Donaire are too serious on cancelling this match. Hopefully, this will be settled now and start their training because many anticipate the match to become more brutal, August will be a month to remember for these two boxer.
A bit impossible.

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/nonito-donaire-cancels-unification-fight-with-john-riel-casimero-over-insults-hurled-at-his-wife/
https://cebudailynews.inquirer.net/385578/donaire-calls-off-fight-with-casimero
https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/6/30/22557995/nonito-donaire-claims-not-fighting-john-riel-casimero-august-14-boxing-news-2021

It turns out that this one becomes personal which i do understand Donaire's part.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: freedomgo on July 01, 2021, 09:21:48 PM
Casimero assure that the fight will push through so I guess they are just really trying to hype this match to attract more viewers not unless Donaire are too serious on cancelling this match. Hopefully, this will be settled now and start their training because many anticipate the match to become more brutal, August will be a month to remember for these two boxer.
A bit impossible.

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/nonito-donaire-cancels-unification-fight-with-john-riel-casimero-over-insults-hurled-at-his-wife/
https://cebudailynews.inquirer.net/385578/donaire-calls-off-fight-with-casimero
https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/6/30/22557995/nonito-donaire-claims-not-fighting-john-riel-casimero-august-14-boxing-news-2021

It turns out that this one becomes personal which i do understand Donaire's part.

Since this is personal, they are the only ones who know what's happening here.

Donaire will never be angry without a reason, but the question is, is it enough to cancel the fight?
Poor Donaire, people usually looked up on him, but with his decision, it turns out the fans are putting their support on Casimero.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Japinat on July 01, 2021, 09:31:23 PM
Because of the action of Donaire, I now love Casimero and I'm supporting him whoever he will face.

Why can't a Filipino boxer just follow Manny, he is humble all the time that's why he is now one of the legends in sports.
Donaire had his time, but next time he loses, we might not be able to see him come back again.

Donaire is just maybe making sure the next fight would be huge and he could win and I think it will not happen against Casimero as he is in his prime now.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: bisdak40 on July 01, 2021, 09:38:14 PM
Because of the action of Donaire, I now love Casimero and I'm supporting him whoever he will face.

Why can't a Filipino boxer just follow Manny, he is humble all the time that's why he is now one of the legends in sports.
Donaire had his time, but next time he loses, we might not be able to see him come back again.

Donaire is just maybe making sure the next fight would be huge and he could win and I think it will not happen against Casimero as he is in his prime now.

Agree, if Donaire will lost against Casimero then that might be the end of his career. If he fight in a rematch with Inoue and loses chances of him fighting again is possible because of the "alibi" that Inoue is a champion of course and just hard to beat and he might go on fighting B level fighters for retirement.

This fight with Casimero is a brainchild of Rachel who in fact posted on her social media account after her meeting with some Top Rank officials and now they are the ones pulling it off because of some baseless allegations.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Hamphser on July 01, 2021, 09:54:10 PM
Casimero assure that the fight will push through so I guess they are just really trying to hype this match to attract more viewers not unless Donaire are too serious on cancelling this match. Hopefully, this will be settled now and start their training because many anticipate the match to become more brutal, August will be a month to remember for these two boxer.
-snip-

Since this is personal, they are the only ones who know what's happening here.

Donaire will never be angry without a reason, but the question is, is it enough to cancel the fight?
Poor Donaire, people usually looked up on him, but with his decision, it turns out the fans are putting their support on Casimero.

I agree on what you had said, this isnt just enough to be a reason on cancelling a fight for a very very simple reason because that would really be creating a bad impression towards him.

Hopefully this one would be settled as it turns out this had been a misunderstanding or they do really just give importance into their ego and end up on this kind of decision.

The thrill and hype was just simply vanished because of this and its really sad to think off.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Yamifoud on July 01, 2021, 10:10:42 PM
Casimero assure that the fight will push through so I guess they are just really trying to hype this match to attract more viewers not unless Donaire are too serious on cancelling this match. Hopefully, this will be settled now and start their training because many anticipate the match to become more brutal, August will be a month to remember for these two boxer.
-snip-

Since this is personal, they are the only ones who know what's happening here.

Donaire will never be angry without a reason, but the question is, is it enough to cancel the fight?
Poor Donaire, people usually looked up on him, but with his decision, it turns out the fans are putting their support on Casimero.

I agree on what you had said, this isnt just enough to be a reason on cancelling a fight for a very very simple reason because that would really be creating a bad impression towards him.

Hopefully this one would be settled as it turns out this had been a misunderstanding or they do really just give importance into their ego and end up on this kind of decision.

The thrill and hype was just simply vanished because of this and its really sad to think off.


Donaire failed to handle it professionally,  this is supposed to be a big fight, it's still a unification of belts and both boxers have supported from their fans. Whatever Donaire would say, the fans would not accept it as it disappointed them not to see this big fight, it's supposed to make history as two Filipino champions collide for unification of title.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Hippocrypto on July 01, 2021, 10:22:39 PM
This is really a big fight, and I bet on Donaire in the first place because he got the big edge on this match.
With his attitude and humbleness despite of their conflicts, I believed that there's really a deep emotions coming through when their fight is going to commence.
Donaire will really dump his punches and will show no mercy for Casimero, which will eventually made him learned from all the mistakes he made.

i dont know what it is going take for Donaire to push thru this fight as he already cancelled from his side? though no official announcements yet if this is indeed a shelved fight. what will happen to the upcoming Inoue fight here if this Donaire-Casimero will not push thru?
we can't do anything much but wait if this fight will still push thru...
Indeed, this is very much awaited event that we're going to witness once it will push thru. As there's no official announcement, this is going to be more exciting for both camp's fans now. Every decisions will change according to what final negotiations will come out, what's important is we knew the capabilities of Donaire that he'd able to beat Casimero if their fight will commence.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: smyslov on July 01, 2021, 10:41:10 PM


Donaire failed to handle it professionally,  this is supposed to be a big fight, it's still a unification of belts and both boxers have supported from their fans. Whatever Donaire would say, the fans would not accept it as it disappointed them not to see this big fight, it's supposed to make history as two Filipino champions collide for unification of title.
Donaire can still change his mind if he feels that his family is disrespected then he should get even in the ring, people might think that he is afraid of Casimero, for Casimero he should go for Donaire for testing, if he is interested to get the fight push through and take out Donaire's alibi, this is a good fight and approved by all boxing fans


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: chaser15 on July 01, 2021, 11:01:39 PM
Donaire failed to handle it professionally,  this is supposed to be a big fight, it's still a unification of belts and both boxers have supported from their fans.

There is still roughly a month to fixed those things. Nonito Donaire might be just be carried away with his emotions.

Let's give them several weeks. Casimero's camp is silent and just releasing few statements, meaning they admit there's a mistake on their part.

The issue will be settled and I know Casimero's camp or others else are doing something behind the camera for the fight to be possibly continued.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: nakamura12 on July 01, 2021, 11:04:09 PM
Donaire can still change his mind if he feels that his family is disrespected then he should get even in the ring, people might think that he is afraid of Casimero, for Casimero he should go for Donaire for testing, if he is interested to get the fight push through and take out Donaire's alibi, this is a good fight and approved by all boxing fans
True that donaire can still change his mind to fight casimero but if not then we won't see this big fight. On casimero's side, he is looking forward to fight inoue and this may be the reason for what he did. Let's just wait as see what will happen if the fight will continue or cancelled. There will be a lot of gamblers are looking for a chance to bet on this match (if it happens or not cancelled). Still, the fight is on August so there's still time to wait and see for this match up to happen or cancelled.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: goinmerry on July 01, 2021, 11:05:22 PM
They have now created a nationwide awareness so skipping the fight is like throwing away a good revenue for the fight. They reached all the target audiences on the fight and I'm sure many will watch as people want to see how Nonito will react on the ring.

I'm now starting to believe that this was all to promote the fight as there's still no official announcement yet from the promoters. The issue was surely true and legit but the fight won't be likely to officially canceled.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: electronicash on July 02, 2021, 06:44:31 AM
They have now created a nationwide awareness so skipping the fight is like throwing away a good revenue for the fight. They reached all the target audiences on the fight and I'm sure many will watch as people want to see how Nonito will react on the ring.

I'm now starting to believe that this was all to promote the fight as there's still no official announcement yet from the promoters. The issue was surely true and legit but the fight won't be likely to officially canceled.

somewhat like they are testing if the match could get substantial support to make money out of it. to make more hype i guess casimero provoked donaire way beyond the line and so rachel wanting to prove like she could cancel a match. mixed nuts. if casimero is paid low, doesn't matter as long as he agrees to it. and donaire could punish him in the ring for rude comments to wifey.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Jating on July 02, 2021, 08:31:10 AM
Donaire failed to handle it professionally,  this is supposed to be a big fight, it's still a unification of belts and both boxers have supported from their fans.

There is still roughly a month to fixed those things. Nonito Donaire might be just be carried away with his emotions.

Let's give them several weeks. Casimero's camp is silent and just releasing few statements, meaning they admit there's a mistake on their part.

The issue will be settled and I know Casimero's camp or others else are doing something behind the camera for the fight to be possibly continued.

Yes, he is obviously very emotional about everything specially how Casimero or someone in his camp is disrespecting his family. I think Donaire wanted to teach Casimero a big lesson here, I assumed that this is the biggest pay check for Casimero and since the fight is off for now, he need to look for other fight but I don't think that he will get as close as what he is getting on the Donaire fight. And Nonito because of the disrespect, will not get Casimero this chance to earn huge money.

I remember Oscar Dela Hoya vs Mayorga calls Oscar everything he can, including "Maricon", "Payaso" and even says that he is not embrace by the Latinos and worst he also attacks his wife (just like what the camp of Casimero did here.)

Dela Hoya used this as motivation and then knock out Mayorga out. Donaire should have at least learn from this promotion.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Johnyz on July 02, 2021, 08:55:00 AM
They have now created a nationwide awareness so skipping the fight is like throwing away a good revenue for the fight. They reached all the target audiences on the fight and I'm sure many will watch as people want to see how Nonito will react on the ring.

I'm now starting to believe that this was all to promote the fight as there's still no official announcement yet from the promoters. The issue was surely true and legit but the fight won't be likely to officially canceled.
They are making money by trash talking, I mean attracted a lot of speculators just like us here we've talked that match about this drama, and that's the main goal for them. I also don't believe that this fight will be canceled because Casimero is so sure that the fight will push through as if he done nothing. They are professionals though, this kind of action can raise doubt on your own reputation so better to avoid this.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Yaunfitda on July 02, 2021, 09:19:53 AM
They have now created a nationwide awareness so skipping the fight is like throwing away a good revenue for the fight. They reached all the target audiences on the fight and I'm sure many will watch as people want to see how Nonito will react on the ring.

I'm now starting to believe that this was all to promote the fight as there's still no official announcement yet from the promoters. The issue was surely true and legit but the fight won't be likely to officially canceled.
They are making money by trash talking, I mean attracted a lot of speculators just like us here we've talked that match about this drama, and that's the main goal for them. I also don't believe that this fight will be canceled because Casimero is so sure that the fight will push through as if he done nothing. They are professionals though, this kind of action can raise doubt on your own reputation so better to avoid this.
For now, the game is off, Donaire already said that in public. So the ball is not of Casimero here, he might say that the fight will push through, but it takes two to tango. Not sure what will it takes for Donaire to accept the fight again, public apology from Casimero?

They are professionals but sometimes if trash talking goes to extreme, it became personally like Khabib vs McGregor.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Natalim on July 02, 2021, 01:33:06 PM
They have now created a nationwide awareness so skipping the fight is like throwing away a good revenue for the fight. They reached all the target audiences on the fight and I'm sure many will watch as people want to see how Nonito will react on the ring.

I'm now starting to believe that this was all to promote the fight as there's still no official announcement yet from the promoters. The issue was surely true and legit but the fight won't be likely to officially canceled.
They are making money by trash talking, I mean attracted a lot of speculators just like us here we've talked that match about this drama, and that's the main goal for them. I also don't believe that this fight will be canceled because Casimero is so sure that the fight will push through as if he done nothing. They are professionals though, this kind of action can raise doubt on your own reputation so better to avoid this.
For now, the game is off, Donaire already said that in public. So the ball is not of Casimero here, he might say that the fight will push through, but it takes two to tango. Not sure what will it takes for Donaire to accept the fight again, public apology from Casimero?
I think Casimero would not do a public apology as he believes that he did not make any mistake.
According to him, he just tells his experience with Donaire when he was still new in the US, and Donaire accused him of lying.
Now, it's the fans who are affected as we don't know who is telling the truth, but I can see that Casimero is getting sympathy from the fans.

They are professionals but sometimes if trash talking goes to extreme, it became personally like Khabib vs McGregor.
Yeah, sort of, but let's hope if it will end in war of words, they will still face in the future.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Baofeng on July 02, 2021, 04:38:49 PM
Donaire failed to handle it professionally,  this is supposed to be a big fight, it's still a unification of belts and both boxers have supported from their fans.

There is still roughly a month to fixed those things. Nonito Donaire might be just be carried away with his emotions.

Let's give them several weeks. Casimero's camp is silent and just releasing few statements, meaning they admit there's a mistake on their part.

The issue will be settled and I know Casimero's camp or others else are doing something behind the camera for the fight to be possibly continued.

Yes, he is obviously very emotional about everything specially how Casimero or someone in his camp is disrespecting his family. I think Donaire wanted to teach Casimero a big lesson here, I assumed that this is the biggest pay check for Casimero and since the fight is off for now, he need to look for other fight but I don't think that he will get as close as what he is getting on the Donaire fight. And Nonito because of the disrespect, will not get Casimero this chance to earn huge money.

I remember Oscar Dela Hoya vs Mayorga calls Oscar everything he can, including "Maricon", "Payaso" and even says that he is not embrace by the Latinos and worst he also attacks his wife (just like what the camp of Casimero did here.)

Dela Hoya used this as motivation and then knock out Mayorga out. Donaire should have at least learn from this promotion.

It's different though, mostly Filipinos are very emotional and easily gets upset when something negative is being thrown out on you. Oscars knows better, that why he uses this as fuel and after that fight he admit that Mayorga really gets into his skin, but he try to focus and wanted to get the knockout.

On the video that I posted, you can see and hear Donaire's reason and then more on why he cancelled this fight. He really take it personally, so I'm not sure if this fight can still be salvage. And I agree that the fans are mostly affected by the cancellation.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: suzanne5223 on July 02, 2021, 06:27:54 PM
Donaire failed to handle it professionally,  this is supposed to be a big fight, it's still a unification of belts and both boxers have supported from their fans.

There is still roughly a month to fixed those things. Nonito Donaire might be just be carried away with his emotions.

Let's give them several weeks. Casimero's camp is silent and just releasing few statements, meaning they admit there's a mistake on their part.

The issue will be settled and I know Casimero's camp or others else are doing something behind the camera for the fight to be possibly continued.

Yes, he is obviously very emotional about everything specially how Casimero or someone in his camp is disrespecting his family. I think Donaire wanted to teach Casimero a big lesson here, I assumed that this is the biggest pay check for Casimero and since the fight is off for now, he need to look for other fight but I don't think that he will get as close as what he is getting on the Donaire fight. And Nonito because of the disrespect, will not get Casimero this chance to earn huge money.

I remember Oscar Dela Hoya vs Mayorga calls Oscar everything he can, including "Maricon", "Payaso" and even says that he is not embrace by the Latinos and worst he also attacks his wife (just like what the camp of Casimero did here.)

Dela Hoya used this as motivation and then knock out Mayorga out. Donaire should have at least learn from this promotion.
We can't have the same understanding and maturity about things. However, we are not there when Donaire and his wife talked about the issue that make Donaire cancel the fight but his tweet about the words said by Casimero shows that if he going on with the fight he may loose his marriage.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Mahanton on July 02, 2021, 07:25:06 PM
Donaire failed to handle it professionally,  this is supposed to be a big fight, it's still a unification of belts and both boxers have supported from their fans.

There is still roughly a month to fixed those things. Nonito Donaire might be just be carried away with his emotions.

Let's give them several weeks. Casimero's camp is silent and just releasing few statements, meaning they admit there's a mistake on their part.

The issue will be settled and I know Casimero's camp or others else are doing something behind the camera for the fight to be possibly continued.

Yes, he is obviously very emotional about everything specially how Casimero or someone in his camp is disrespecting his family. I think Donaire wanted to teach Casimero a big lesson here, I assumed that this is the biggest pay check for Casimero and since the fight is off for now, he need to look for other fight but I don't think that he will get as close as what he is getting on the Donaire fight. And Nonito because of the disrespect, will not get Casimero this chance to earn huge money.

I remember Oscar Dela Hoya vs Mayorga calls Oscar everything he can, including "Maricon", "Payaso" and even says that he is not embrace by the Latinos and worst he also attacks his wife (just like what the camp of Casimero did here.)

Dela Hoya used this as motivation and then knock out Mayorga out. Donaire should have at least learn from this promotion.
We can't have the same understanding and maturity about things. However, we are not there when Donaire and his wife talked about the issue that make Donaire cancel the fight but his tweet about the words said by Casimero shows that if he going on with the fight he may loose his marriage.
Really hard to point out fingers on here on who's the one would gonna be blamed for the cancellation of fight since it turns out that this do end up on being too personal.

They do already involved things which arent supposed to be included in the first place.So its understandable that pride or ego would really be touched up.

This turns out to be a presume fight and make the crowd a bit hype then it ended up on nothing.  :D


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: DoublerHunter on July 02, 2021, 07:47:14 PM
~snip~
On the video that I posted, you can see and hear Donaire's reason and then more on why he cancelled this fight. He really take it personally, so I'm not sure if this fight can still be salvage. And I agree that the fans are mostly affected by the cancellation.
^ Oh it is canceled, I never know that this fight was canceled.
But I think that is a good decision from Donaire even though people think that this is a cowardly act. But the fact that Casimero's was overrated that possibly would have a knockout. What I think here is the Donaire and Inoue fight will be incoming and probably this was the reason for match cancellation because Donaire reserved his strength on Inoue, not on Casimero.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: stomachgrowls on July 02, 2021, 08:07:14 PM
Donaire failed to handle it professionally,  this is supposed to be a big fight, it's still a unification of belts and both boxers have supported from their fans.

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Im really looking for that wife issue and i do find this one the link. https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2021/06/30/nonito-donarie-john-riel-casimero-scrap/

“We cannot excuse the disgusting trolling memes created of my wife as ‘just for entertainment."
So this was because on some memes? Whos husband wouldnt really make such reaction? You are already crossing the line.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Questat on July 02, 2021, 08:10:59 PM
~snip~
On the video that I posted, you can see and hear Donaire's reason and then more on why he cancelled this fight. He really take it personally, so I'm not sure if this fight can still be salvage. And I agree that the fans are mostly affected by the cancellation.
^ Oh it is canceled, I never know that this fight was canceled.
But I think that is a good decision from Donaire even though people think that this is a cowardly act. But the fact that Casimero's was overrated that possibly would have a knockout. What I think here is the Donaire and Inoue fight will be incoming and probably this was the reason for match cancellation because Donaire reserved his strength on Inoue, not on Casimero.

Donaire wants to avenge his loss and take the belt of Inoue, that's a big mission because Inoue is still undefeated until now and he has been crushing his opponent. A wise decision by Donaire to face Inoue, but he should have not accepted the fight of Casimero if he has an intention to fight Inoue soon, that's being unprofessional.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Japinat on July 02, 2021, 09:13:18 PM
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On the video that I posted, you can see and hear Donaire's reason and then more on why he cancelled this fight. He really take it personally, so I'm not sure if this fight can still be salvage. And I agree that the fans are mostly affected by the cancellation.
^ Oh it is canceled, I never know that this fight was canceled.
But I think that is a good decision from Donaire even though people think that this is a cowardly act. But the fact that Casimero's was overrated that possibly would have a knockout. What I think here is the Donaire and Inoue fight will be incoming and probably this was the reason for match cancellation because Donaire reserved his strength on Inoue, not on Casimero.

Donaire wants to avenge his loss and take the belt of Inoue, that's a big mission because Inoue is still undefeated until now and he has been crushing his opponent. A wise decision by Donaire to face Inoue, but he should have not accepted the fight of Casimero if he has an intention to fight Inoue soon, that's being unprofessional.

It was a clear loss and Inoue had imposed the strategy on him, though I must say  Inoue struggled a bit in that fight, he was able to adjust and win the fight. I'm not sure what Donaire could do in the rematch, but regardless, it's good to see a rematch as they gave us an entertaining fight when they met before.


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: Ryker1 on July 02, 2021, 10:11:35 PM
[snip]
^ Oh it is canceled, I never know that this fight was canceled.
But I think that is a good decision from Donaire even though people think that this is a cowardly act. But the fact that Casimero's was overrated that possibly would have a knockout. What I think here is the Donaire and Inoue fight will be incoming and probably this was the reason for match cancellation because Donaire reserved his strength on Inoue, not on Casimero.

Donaire wants to avenge his loss and take the belt of Inoue, that's a big mission because Inoue is still undefeated until now and he has been crushing his opponent. A wise decision by Donaire to face Inoue, but he should have not accepted the fight of Casimero if he has an intention to fight Inoue soon, that's being unprofessional.
Well, we have the same insight about this cancelled fight --in the first place, Donaire shouldn't accept Casimero's fight both of them if he underestimated the skills of Casimero and even though Donaire is overrated there will perhaps a chance he will win in the future. However, the cancellation of the fight was done and I don't want to know what is the reaction in most Donaire fanatics now.
I still can't believe the cancellation of this fight..


Title: Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero
Post by: robelneo on July 02, 2021, 10:16:45 PM
I really don't like Casimero's arrogant he can do that to other boxers but not on his countryman, he doesn't respect anybody, Donaire is such a respectful fighter and very professional boxer I hope when he faced Inoue, Inoue will teach him a lesson about humility when he knocks him out, somebody should teach Casimero a lesson in humility and Inoue will do just that.

Locking this thread since this fight is off now.