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Title: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: morvillz7z on July 14, 2021, 01:24:24 AM
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« Tokyo Olympic Basketball Official Discussion Thread »


Hey everyone, the Olympics are just around the corner, as is the basketball tournament. I thought we should have a separate thread to talk, make predictions, and have fun while watching the games. The tournament begins on July 25th and concludes on August 7th. Although this is not a self-moderated thread, please do not spam!


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« Rules and Key Dates »


● 12 teams divided into 3 groups (A, B and C) playing against each other.
● First two teams in each group and the 2 best third-placed teams advance to the quarter-finals.
● FIBA has 4x 10 minute quarters. Two timeouts in the first half and three timeouts in the second half (1 minute), only coaches can call timeouts.
● FIBA courts are slightly shorter including the three-point line compared to the NBA.
● There is no basket interference when the ball is around the rim, there's also no defensive 3-second violation.
● 5 fouls allowed.

● Group Phase 25th July to 1st August
● Quarter-finals 3rd August
● Semi-finals 5th August
● Gold and Bronze medal matches 7th August



« Olympic medalists in basketball »


Games           Gold             Silver           Bronze

1936 Berlin     United States    Canada           Mexico
1948 London     United States    France           Brazil
1952 Helsinki   United States    Soviet Union     Uruguay
1956 Melbourne  United States    Soviet Union     Uruguay
1960 Rome       United States    Soviet Union     Brazil
1964 Tokyo      United States    Soviet Union     Brazil
1968 Mexico     United States    Yugoslavia       Soviet Union
1972 Munich     Soviet Union     United States    Cuba
1976 Montreal   United States    Yugoslavia       Soviet Union
1980 Moscow     Yugoslavia       Italy            Soviet Union
1984 LA         United States    Spain            Yugoslavia
1988 Seoul      Soviet Union     Yugoslavia       United States    
1992 Barcelona  United States    Croatia          Lithuania
1996 Atlanta    United States    Yugoslavia       Lithuania
2000 Sydney     United States    France           Lithuania
2004 Athens     Argentina        Italy            United States
2008 Beijing    United States    Spain            Argentina
2012 London     United States    Spain            Russia
2016 Rio        United States    Serbia           Spain



« Additional information and sources »

Olympics official website: https://olympics.com/tokyo-2020/en/sports/basketball/
Fiba Olympics: https://www.fiba.basketball/olympics/men/2020/games
Teams Rosters: http://www.fiba.basketball/olympics/men/2020/news/-men-roster-tracker-who-has-already-confirmed-their-lineup-for-the-tokyo-games
Team Rosters: https://ca.nba.com/news/mens-basketball-2020-tokyo-olympics-preview-every-teams-roster-notable-nba-players-groups-schedule-history/5ta149z3snh410wolnu2lag9a
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Olympic_medalists_in_basketball
Complete schedule: http://www.fiba.basketball/olympics/men/2020/competition-schedule





Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: morvillz7z on July 14, 2021, 02:23:04 AM
Some big names are missing from the tournament, no Greece, Serbia, Lithuania, Brazil also didn't make it.

Czech Republic and Slovenia are making their first-ever Olympic appearances, the Czechs had two impressive wins over Canada and Greece to make the games, Luka qualifying his team single-handedly after an amazing triple-double in the final against Lithuania.

Team USA has shown signs of struggle so far in the exhibition games after two terrible losses and a win over Argentina. They will need some time to get the team chemistry that they need, also to adjust to the FIBA rules and more importantly how the games are being officiated, no easy fouls.

I think we are set for a great tournament!


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on July 14, 2021, 03:00:40 AM
It is a great thread, Olympic Basketball has a great liking on the part of the people, now I would like to share the calendar for the games, I know there are many basketball lovers, I hope the teams give a great show:

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*All times in Japan Standard Time (JST)

Basketball

Date and Time: Sun 25 July 10:00 - 12:00

Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Men's Preliminary Round Group A, Islamic Rep. of Iran vs Czech Republic

Date and Time: Sun 25 July 13:40 - 15:40
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Men's Preliminary Round Group B, Germany vs Italy

Date and Time: Sun 25 July 17:20 - 19:20
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Men's Preliminary Round Group B, Australia vs Nigeria

Date and Time: Sun 25 July 21:00 - 23:00
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Men's Preliminary Round Group A, France vs United States

Date and Time: Mon 26 July 10:00 - 12:00
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Women's Preliminary Round Group A, Republic of Korea vs Spain

Date and Time: Mon 26 July 13:40 - 15:40
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Men's Preliminary Round Group C, Argentina vs Slovenia

Date and Time: Mon 26 July 17:20 - 19:20
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Women's Preliminary Round Group A, Serbia vs Canada

Date and Time: Mon 26 July 21:00 - 23:00
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Men's Preliminary Round Group C, Japan vs Spain

Date and Time: Tue 27 July 10:00 - 12:00
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Women's Preliminary Round Group B, Japan vs France

Date and Time: Tue 27 July 13:40 - 15:40
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Women's Preliminary Round Group B, Nigeria vs United States

Date and Time: Tue 27 July 17:20 - 19:20
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Women's Preliminary Round Group C, Australia vs Belgium

Date and Time: Tue 27 July 21:00 - 23:00
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Women's Preliminary Round Group C, Puerto Rico vs China

Date and Time: Wed 28 July 10:00 - 12:00
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Men's Preliminary Round Group B, Nigeria vs Germany

Date and Time: Wed 28 July 13:40 - 15:40
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Men's Preliminary Round Group A, United States vs Islamic Rep. of Iran

Date and Time: Wed 28 July 17:20 - 19:20
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Men's Preliminary Round Group B, Italy vs Australia

Date and Time: Wed 28 July 21:00 - 23:00
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Men's Preliminary Round Group A, Czech Republic vs France

Date and Time: Thu 29 July 10:00 - 12:00
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Women's Preliminary Round Group A, Canada vs Republic of Korea

Date and Time: Thu 29 July 13:40 - 15:40
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Men's Preliminary Round Group C, Slovenia vs Japan

Date and Time: Thu 29 July 17:20 - 19:20
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Women's Preliminary Round Group A, Spain vs Serbia

Date and Time: Thu 29 July 21:00 - 23:00
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Men's Preliminary Round Group C, Spain vs Argentina

Date and Time: Fri 30 July 10:00 - 12:00
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Women's Preliminary Round Group C, Belgium vs Puerto Rico

Date and Time: Fri 30 July 13:40 - 15:40
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Women's Preliminary Round Group B, United States vs Japan

Date and Time: Fri 30 July 17:20 - 19:20
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Women's Preliminary Round Group B, France vs Nigeria

Date and Time: Fri 30 July 21:00 - 23:00
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Women's Preliminary Round Group C, China vs Australia

Date and Time: Sat 31 July 10:00 - 12:00
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Men's Preliminary Round Group A, Islamic Rep. of Iran vs France

Date and Time: Sat 31 July 13:40 - 15:40
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Men's Preliminary Round Group B, Italy vs Nigeria

Date and Time: Sat 31 July 17:20 - 19:20
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Men's Preliminary Round Group B, Australia vs Germany

Date and Time: Sat 31 July 21:00 - 23:00
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Men's Preliminary Round Group A, United States vs Czech Republic

Date and Time: Sun 1 Aug. 10:00 - 12:00
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Women's Preliminary Round Group A, Canada vs Spain

Date and Time: Sun 1 Aug. 13:40 - 15:40
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Men's Preliminary Round Group C, Argentina vs Japan

Date and Time: Sun 1 Aug. 17:20 - 19:20
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Men's Preliminary Round Group C, Spain vs Slovenia

Date and Time: Sun 1 Aug. 21:00 - 23:00
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Women's Preliminary Round Group A, Republic of Korea vs Serbia

Date and Time: Mon 2 Aug. 10:00 - 12:00
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Women's Preliminary Round Group B, Nigeria vs Japan

Date and Time: Mon 2 Aug. 13:40 - 15:40
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Women's Preliminary Round Group B, France vs United States

Date and Time: Mon 2 Aug. 17:20 - 19:20
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Women's Preliminary Round Group C, China vs Belgium

Date and Time: Mon 2 Aug. 21:00 - 23:00
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Women's Preliminary Round Group C, Australia vs Puerto Rico

Date and Time: Tue 3 Aug. 10:00 - 12:00
Venues: Saitama Super Arena

Men's Quarterfinal

Date and Time: Tue 3 Aug. 13:40 - 15:40
Venues: Saitama Super Arena

Men's Quarterfinal

Date and Time: Tue 3 Aug. 17:20 - 19:20
Venues: Saitama Super Arena

Men's Quarterfinal

Date and Time: Tue 3 Aug. 21:00 - 23:00
Venues: Saitama Super Arena

Men's Quarterfinal

Date and Time: Wed 4 Aug. 10:00 - 12:00
Venues: Saitama Super Arena

Women's Quarterfinal

Date and Time: Wed 4 Aug. 13:40 - 15:40
Venues: Saitama Super Arena

Women's Quarterfinal

Date and Time: Wed 4 Aug. 17:20 - 19:20
Venues: Saitama Super Arena

Women's Quarterfinal

Date and Time: Wed 4 Aug. 21:00 - 23:00
Venues: Saitama Super Arena

Women's Quarterfinal

Date and Time: Thu 5 Aug. 13:15 - 15:15
Venues: Saitama Super Arena

Men's Semifinal

Date and Time: Thu 5 Aug. 20:00 - 22:00
Venues: Saitama Super Arena

Men's Semifinal

Date and Time: Fri 6 Aug. 13:40 - 15:40
Venues: Saitama Super Arena

Women's Semifinal

Date and Time: Fri 6 Aug. 20:00 - 22:00
Venues: Saitama Super Arena

Women's Semifinal

Date and Time: Sat 7 Aug. 11:30 - 13:30
Venues: Saitama Super Arena

Men's Gold Medal Game

Date and Time: Sat 7 Aug. 16:00 - 18:00
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Women's Bronze Medal Game

Date and Time: Sat 7 Aug. 20:00 - 22:30
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Men's Bronze Medal Game
Men's Victory Ceremony

Date and Time: Sun 8 Aug. 11:30 - 14:00
Venues: Saitama Super Arena
Women's Gold Medal Game
Women's Victory Ceremony
Source: https://olympics.com/tokyo-2020/en/schedule/basketball-schedule (https://olympics.com/tokyo-2020/en/schedule/basketball-schedule)

There is very little time left for the games to start, it is time to prepare for the best, this is just basketball. There are many games to come ...


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Sithara007 on July 14, 2021, 03:51:14 AM
Some big names are missing from the tournament, no Greece, Serbia, Lithuania, Brazil also didn't make it.

I was also disappointed by the omission of Serbia and Russia. They could have expanded the number of teams from 12 to 16. Serbia and Spain are without any doubt two of the strongest European sides and this time only one among them will appear in the Olympic games. Also an Olympic basket ball tournament without any of the former USSR teams looks odd for me. Because along with the US, they had dominated Olympic basketball for so long. Either Russia or Lithuania should have made it.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: LTU_btc on July 15, 2021, 07:22:00 PM
I was also disappointed by the omission of Serbia and Russia. They could have expanded the number of teams from 12 to 16. Serbia and Spain are without any doubt two of the strongest European sides and this time only one among them will appear in the Olympic games. Also an Olympic basket ball tournament without any of the former USSR teams looks odd for me. Because along with the US, they had dominated Olympic basketball for so long. Either Russia or Lithuania should have made it.
For me as Lithuanian, it's so pity that we haven't qualified to Olympics for the first time in history. We didn't managed to stop Doncic & co and lost to Slovenia in the final.
It's not surprice that Russia qualified - their squad is really weak this year. Serbia failure is bigger surprise - even without Jokic their squad is one of best in Europe.
I would like tournament expanded to 16 teams, but Olympics is too short event (just 2 weeks) for big tournaments).
I hope that USA will not win gold. Their squad is very solid this time, but results in preparation games shows that they aren't unbeatable.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Yamifoud on July 15, 2021, 10:04:42 PM
I don't follow a lot on the international teams but my favorite to win here is not the USA, I know they are good but I rather find the underdog to win the gold medal and I think I like Spain here.

by the way, we got the odds here. (top 12 only)

https://dknation.draftkings.com/2021/6/18/22539324/olympics-mens-basketball-gold-medal-odds-tokyo-2021-team-usa-serbia-spain-france-australia-greece

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Olympic Men’s Basketball Odds Tokyo 2020
Team   Odds
USA   -305
Serbia   +800
Spain   +800
France   +1700
Australia   +2500
Greece   +2500
Lithuania   +2500
Argentina   +3000
Croatia   +5000
Slovenia   +5000
Turkey   +5000
Venezuela   +5000


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Sithara007 on July 16, 2021, 03:51:07 AM
I would like tournament expanded to 16 teams, but Olympics is too short event (just 2 weeks) for big tournaments).
I hope that USA will not win gold. Their squad is very solid this time, but results in preparation games shows that they aren't unbeatable.

12 is too small. I would have gone for 24 teams, with 3 teams divided in to 8 groups in the first phase, followed by quarter-finals, semi-finals and finals. Give one day gap between each stage, and the tournament will be completed in around 10 days. For a global tournament, 12 is too small to give representation to all the regions. If 24 is not practical, then they could have gone with at least 16 teams (4 teams each in 4 groups, followed by semi-finals and finals). I am extremely disappointed by the absence of Serbia in particular. 


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: magneto on July 20, 2021, 01:24:48 AM
+2500 on Australia?

I think the odds are definitely way too skewed in the US's favour. There is a lot of youth and inexperience on the US roster, and they have definitely shown weakness when it comes to exhibition games.

Serbia, France and Australia are all very good picks to win at such long odds.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: rhomelmabini on July 20, 2021, 01:45:15 AM
+2500 on Australia?

I think the odds are definitely way too skewed in the US's favour. There is a lot of youth and inexperience on the US roster, and they have definitely shown weakness when it comes to exhibition games.

Serbia, France and Australia are all very good picks to win at such long odds.
Beal and Love was out of the Olympics roster and was replaced by McGee and Keldon Johnson. They are still awaiting for Booker, Holiday, and Middleton to join when the NBA Finals come to an end and hoping they wouldn't get into the hassle of health protocol just like what LaVine and Grant get.

I guess the odds was in relate to the fact that they are the former champion of 2016 Rio Olympics but somehow the past performance of them lossing over Nigeria and Australia exhibition match raises skepticism about this odd.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: morvillz7z on July 20, 2021, 02:03:36 AM
by the way, we got the odds here. (top 12 only)

https://dknation.draftkings.com/2021/6/18/22539324/olympics-mens-basketball-gold-medal-odds-tokyo-2021-team-usa-serbia-spain-france-australia-greece

^Those are outdated odds, the link you provided was posted weeks before the final four qualifiers and half of the teams mentioned did not even qualify for the Olympics.

More recent ones:

source: https://www.covers.com/olympics/basketball
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United States   -400
Australia   +900
Spain   +1,100
Slovenia   +1,700
France   +1,900
Nigeria  +3,500
Argentina   +4,000
Italy   +4,000
Germany   +10,000
Czech Republic   +10,000
Japan   +30,000
Iran   +50,000

Serbia, France and Australia are all very good picks to win at such long odds.

Not to be a jerk, but if you don't know which teams qualified for the Olympics, i don't think this thread is for you. I will 100% regret not making this one a self-mod. smh


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Sithara007 on July 20, 2021, 03:50:48 AM
+2500 on Australia?

I think the odds are definitely way too skewed in the US's favour. There is a lot of youth and inexperience on the US roster, and they have definitely shown weakness when it comes to exhibition games.

It is never going to be a good option to bet in favor of the United States, because they always underperform in global tournaments. Remember the 2019 Basketball World Cup? I lost some money betting on them. They were touted as the strongest team in the tournament, but lost to France by a big margin in the Quarter-finals. But I agree that during the last Olympics (2016), they had such an enviable record. They destroyed Serbia in the finals by such a huge margin (96-66). The format was different last time. They went for 2x6 grouping, compared to 3x4 that we have now.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Obito on July 20, 2021, 04:16:17 AM
No cap, USA is going to win this match definitely, I have seen the line up and it's close to an All Star line up and I don't think that anyone can probably play that good against USA. Plus I don't think that USA is going to be beaten for the gold anytime soon.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Oasisman on July 20, 2021, 04:30:27 AM
No cap, USA is going to win this match definitely, I have seen the line up and it's close to an All Star line up and I don't think that anyone can probably play that good against USA. Plus I don't think that USA is going to be beaten for the gold anytime soon.

Not guaranteed, though as usual team USA is an allstar team, but teams like France, Italy, Spain, and Argentina has always had a chance at winning.
France might be the toughest opponent for the team USA in the first bracket, someone mentioned about what happened between the France and USA matchup in 2019.
Though I agree USA roster is looking great this year, but you can't take away the fact that France is also a good team.
Again, they (USA) have a huge chance and most favourite to win the Gold medal, but those teams I have mentioned will surely give them a good match.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on July 20, 2021, 06:02:20 AM
Not guaranteed, though as usual team USA is an allstar team, but teams like France, Italy, Spain, and Argentina has always had a chance at winning.
France might be the toughest opponent for the team USA in the first bracket, someone mentioned about what happened between the France and USA matchup in 2019.
Though I agree USA roster is looking great this year, but you can't take away the fact that France is also a good team.
Again, they (USA) have a huge chance and most favourite to win the Gold medal, but those teams I have mentioned will surely give them a good match.
It might not be guaranteed but as you have said, they have an All Star roster and they have a chance against the winner from the last time which is France. I have seen the performance of France and I think that there's a good chance that they might be able to get the gold since they have a good team and good players. There's also the African teams, there's a chance that they can get in, they're pretty good too.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Obito on July 20, 2021, 06:04:56 AM
~snip
Not guaranteed, though as usual team USA is an allstar team, but teams like France, Italy, Spain, and Argentina has always had a chance at winning.
France might be the toughest opponent for the team USA in the first bracket, someone mentioned about what happened between the France and USA matchup in 2019.
Though I agree USA roster is looking great this year, but you can't take away the fact that France is also a good team.
Again, they (USA) have a huge chance and most favourite to win the Gold medal, but those teams I have mentioned will surely give them a good match.
It's not that I am disregarding other teams but the players in the USA is just too good that I feel like they are unstoppable and that they might be able to demolish all the other teams all the way through the finals. I just hope that there's no doping or any funny business happening, I just want these people to have fun and me watching their matches.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: bryant.coleman on July 20, 2021, 06:27:03 AM
Not guaranteed, though as usual team USA is an allstar team, but teams like France, Italy, Spain, and Argentina has always had a chance at winning.
France might be the toughest opponent for the team USA in the first bracket, someone mentioned about what happened between the France and USA matchup in 2019.
Though I agree USA roster is looking great this year, but you can't take away the fact that France is also a good team.
Again, they (USA) have a huge chance and most favourite to win the Gold medal, but those teams I have mentioned will surely give them a good match.

Is it worth to make a bet in favor of the United States? The odds are -900 or -1000. Even if you put $1000 on them, at the most you will receive $100. But then there is always a chance of an upset. IMO, it is not worth the risk to make a bet in their favor. What if 2019 repeats? I would rather go for Australia, France, Spain or Argentina. Italy also looks good. The unpredictability is higher this time, due to the COVID 19 situation. Although the chances are very low, what would happen if some of the main players become unavailable all of a sudden?


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: electronicash on July 20, 2021, 06:58:44 AM
Not guaranteed, though as usual team USA is an allstar team, but teams like France, Italy, Spain, and Argentina has always had a chance at winning.
France might be the toughest opponent for the team USA in the first bracket, someone mentioned about what happened between the France and USA matchup in 2019.
Though I agree USA roster is looking great this year, but you can't take away the fact that France is also a good team.
Again, they (USA) have a huge chance and most favourite to win the Gold medal, but those teams I have mentioned will surely give them a good match.

Is it worth to make a bet in favor of the United States? The odds are -900 or -1000. Even if you put $1000 on them, at the most you will receive $100. But then there is always a chance of an upset. IMO, it is not worth the risk to make a bet in their favor. What if 2019 repeats? I would rather go for Australia, France, Spain or Argentina. Italy also looks good. The unpredictability is higher this time, due to the COVID 19 situation. Although the chances are very low, what would happen if some of the main players become unavailable all of a sudden?

the chance of an upset is always there seeing there are popular names. not a chance when only 10% for the win, maybe they Keldon to be a big advantage already. but you see Spain didn't make it easy for them to win they also have superstars with them, i'm not very familiar.

Australia has better payers but there's also Rubio and Scola in Argentina's team.



Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: zanezane on July 20, 2021, 07:10:12 AM
If France have the same roster as back when they won against USA, they will probably have a big chance against them but if there's a change, we will probably see to it that USA will dominate the sport.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Lorence.xD on July 20, 2021, 07:21:45 AM
Why is the rules saying FIBA when it's Olympics? It's stupid of me to ask that question but I feel that I am conflicted so I really want to know about it. I am on team USA just like my other friends, NBA really made the influence to make us believe that they're going to get this gold.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: btc_angela on July 20, 2021, 09:10:54 AM
Why is the rules saying FIBA when it's Olympics? It's stupid of me to ask that question but I feel that I am conflicted so I really want to know about it. I am on team USA just like my other friends, NBA really made the influence to make us believe that they're going to get this gold.

It's because FIBA is a world governing body as far as basketball is concern.

US has been getting the golds and they have been ranked #1 again in this year's Olympics.

So clearly they will still be the favourites to continue their dominance but there will be tough competitions as well as some of the countries has NBA players.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: LTU_btc on July 20, 2021, 09:28:50 AM
Why is the rules saying FIBA when it's Olympics? It's stupid of me to ask that question but I feel that I am conflicted so I really want to know about it. I am on team USA just like my other friends, NBA really made the influence to make us believe that they're going to get this gold.
Because it's international event, controlled by FIBA. Rest of world, except USA are playing by FIBA rules, so it would strange if they would play by NBA rules. Though, for players from NBA (not USA only) it's not always easy to play by FIBA rules - a bit different calling of fouls, travelling rules, smaller court and closer 3 pt. line.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on July 20, 2021, 10:22:43 PM
Hey guys, I have seen that the USA team is one of the best in the world, in fact for my USA in basketball it is power, did you see the exhibition game? I couldn't see it, but the USA won, apparently the USA has a very solid team and is a very strong candidate to win the gold.

USA vs. Spain score, results: Team USA wins final exhibition before Tokyo Olympics

https://i.imgur.com/oMhfrI4.png
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Team USA displayed its offensive firepower in an 83-76 win over Spain, the squad's final exhibition before it heads to Tokyo for the 2021 Olympics. Damian Lillard (19 points, six assists, four rebounds, four steals, two blocks) and Kevin Durant (14 points, two rebounds, two assists, two blocks) unsurprisingly led the way, but the Americans got a major boost from Keldon Johnson, who was promoted to the main roster after Kevin Love's withdrawal. The Spurs forward had 15 points off the bench and finished with the best plus-minus of any Team USA player (plus-18).
Source: https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/usa-spain-basketball-live-score-highlights/4m2740d8r8c61a2hdmp4mfsz5 (https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/usa-spain-basketball-live-score-highlights/4m2740d8r8c61a2hdmp4mfsz5)

It's funny but the USA team always stands out in almost all sports, it is a matter of waiting for the teams from other countries to see how their level is.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: robelneo on July 21, 2021, 12:08:44 AM


Team USA has shown signs of struggle so far in the exhibition games after two terrible losses and a win over Argentina. They will need some time to get the team chemistry that they need, also to adjust to the FIBA rules and more importantly how the games are being officiated, no easy fouls.

I think we are set for a great tournament!

Individually they are all great but basketball is a team sport and they have to blend their individual talents perfectly if they want to win a medal, they are up against teams who are all playing for years together and talent alone will not win you a medal, the coach now has a huge task of making them blend together, but we all know these are NBA talents they will not take a risk of getting injured compared to other teams where players can take the risk of injury, this is a very interesting event I have no idea who will win here, but the USA is my favorite.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: TravelMug on July 21, 2021, 12:49:30 AM


Team USA has shown signs of struggle so far in the exhibition games after two terrible losses and a win over Argentina. They will need some time to get the team chemistry that they need, also to adjust to the FIBA rules and more importantly how the games are being officiated, no easy fouls.

I think we are set for a great tournament!

Individually they are all great but basketball is a team sport and they have to blend their individual talents perfectly if they want to win a medal, they are up against teams who are all playing for years together and talent alone will not win you a medal, the coach now has a huge task of making them blend together, but we all know these are NBA talents they will not take a risk of getting injured compared to other teams where players can take the risk of injury, this is a very interesting event I have no idea who will win here, but the USA is my favorite.

What do you mean? they have been winning the gold medal in the Olympics for as long as we can remember. Despite the argument that they don't blend or something. Yes, other countries are catching up, but sending their best NBA players still is the biggest advantage of team USA here.

And that's what we have this kind of exhibitions, it will really benefited them, unlike the teams who have been playing for many years and have the chemistry. But when it comes to the big stage, the USA mens basketball team always takes home the gold.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Fundamentals Of on July 21, 2021, 03:48:41 AM
I am planning to bet on Nigeria against Australia. Is it going to be a nice bet? The odds is around 3.55. If the team was able to beat the number one rank which is the United States, it is also possible they would defeat Australia right? I haven't watched the US vs Nigeria game just recently. So even if it was a really an unexpected upset, I don't know whether the game was really close or it was just a stroke of luck that Nigeria turned out a winner. Will watch some highlights later if schedule permits.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Sithara007 on July 21, 2021, 03:52:26 AM
If we check the record from 1992, it can be seen that the United States has won gold 6 out of 7 times. That gives a probability of >83%. The only occasion when they failed to win a gold was in 2004 (Athens Olympics), when they finished 8th in the group stage, and then lost to Argentina in the semi-finals. The 2004 team was perhaps the weakest ever sent by the US, but even in that tournament they managed to defeat Spain. But looking at the squad they sent to Tokyo this time, I believe that the chances of an upset (similar to what happened in 2004) is minimal.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: famososMuertos on July 21, 2021, 05:44:19 AM
Some big names are missing from the tournament, no Greece, Serbia, Lithuania, Brazil also didn't make it.
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The pre-Olympic was exciting ... maybe coincided with the Euro and COPA America tournaments took away interest but there were exciting matches like Mexico's victory over Russia and the 2-point defeat against Germany (Ru 67).

On the other hand, the pre-Olympic (FIBA)  gavethe opportunity to more teams of 18, they went to 24 teams, that if it is without doubt a rude classification, since they only qualify 4 to complete the 12.



Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: iv4n on July 21, 2021, 06:16:31 AM
Some big names are missing from the tournament, no Greece, Serbia, Lithuania, Brazil also didn't make it.
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The pre-Olympic was exciting ... maybe coincided with the Euro and COPA America tournaments took away interest but there were exciting matches like Mexico's victory over Russia and the 2-point defeat against Germany (Ru 67).

On the other hand, the pre-Olympic (FIBA)  gavethe opportunity to more teams of 18, they went to 24 teams, that if it is without doubt a rude classification, since they only qualify 4 to complete the 12.



I missed pre-Olympic, as you say, we were focused on Euro, and a bit on COPA! I watched some news here and there, but nothing special... and for one more reason, Serbia is not playing this year! We lost at home against the Italians, the game that could lead us to the Olympics, that was a big bummer!

I guess the USA team is a favorite once again! It will be interesting to see can someone compete with them this year...


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Pamadar on July 21, 2021, 07:19:39 AM
If we check the record from 1992, it can be seen that the United States has won gold 6 out of 7 times. That gives a probability of >83%. The only occasion when they failed to win a gold was in 2004 (Athens Olympics), when they finished 8th in the group stage, and then lost to Argentina in the semi-finals. The 2004 team was perhaps the weakest ever sent by the US, but even in that tournament they managed to defeat Spain. But looking at the squad they sent to Tokyo this time, I believe that the chances of an upset (similar to what happened in 2004) is minimal.

The lineup  is good enough to win another gold,

The pride withing this players are big enough to bring the win, blending is not hard since they are doing practices and even that's just
limited time, the IQ and talents this NBA stars have is better enough to create plays and to established good system, depends now with how the coach will handle the rotations and the right sets of players to blend inside the court.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Yaunfitda on July 21, 2021, 08:11:14 AM
I am planning to bet on Nigeria against Australia. Is it going to be a nice bet? The odds is around 3.55. If the team was able to beat the number one rank which is the United States, it is also possible they would defeat Australia right? I haven't watched the US vs Nigeria game just recently. So even if it was a really an unexpected upset, I don't know whether the game was really close or it was just a stroke of luck that Nigeria turned out a winner. Will watch some highlights later if schedule permits.
But that was just pre-Olympics and could even be considered a friendly game. Yes, Nigeria upset the US that time, but then again, maybe the US didn't really gave their 100% on that game.

In any case mate, it's a very attractive odd and Nigeria has a chance against the Australians. Nigerians also boosted with NBA players as well. So if you are willing to take that risk, then go for it.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: OgNasty on July 21, 2021, 08:15:43 AM
I’ll give them a pass on the exhibitions because they probably weren’t giving it their best effort while their opponents likely considered it the game of their lives. The bottom line is that the US team has Kevin Durant so anything less than the gold would be upsetting. I think the next year could lead to a Durant gold medal, NBA MVP, and Finals MVP.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Jating on July 21, 2021, 09:35:30 AM
I’ll give them a pass on the exhibitions because they probably weren’t giving it their best effort while their opponents likely considered it the game of their lives. The bottom line is that the US team has Kevin Durant so anything less than the gold would be upsetting. I think the next year could lead to a Durant gold medal, NBA MVP, and Finals MVP.

Golden Slam? (sorry if I used a tennis term here).

But I agree though, it was just an exhibitions and they weren't giving their best. You don't want to get to get injured at worst in this kind of exhibition matches.

Although it's not that strong as compare to other US Olympic team roster, but they can still tear apart other nations even if they have a NBA player themselves. I don't think that Durant would want to see a team which he leads settles for the bronze in this Olympics.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: smyslov on July 21, 2021, 10:52:41 AM
I’ll give them a pass on the exhibitions because they probably weren’t giving it their best effort while their opponents likely considered it the game of their lives. The bottom line is that the US team has Kevin Durant so anything less than the gold would be upsetting. I think the next year could lead to a Durant gold medal, NBA MVP, and Finals MVP.

Yes there's a big possibility that they can win the gold medal here, it's unfortunate that Greece failed to get in the Olympics they could be the biggest threat if Antekoumpo will lay in the Greece national team so far I don't see any team that can be the biggest threat on the US campaign, once their talent blended they will become unbeatable.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Yogee on July 21, 2021, 03:12:51 PM
The pride, ego, and individual talent are still there but it doesn't look like USA has the same motivation to win the gold this year. Let's see if their loss to Nigeria and Australia are enough to fire them up in the games that matters.

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It's funny but the USA team always stands out in almost all sports, it is a matter of waiting for the teams from other countries to see how their level is.
It's just basketball and maybe baseball. They are only popular in other sports because of sponsorship or marketing but they are not that dominant.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: famososMuertos on July 21, 2021, 05:06:21 PM
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It's just basketball and maybe baseball. They are only popular in other sports because of sponsorship or marketing but they are not that dominant.
Really!!

We must be fair they are dominant, globally they dominate most popular sports and in the eXtremes (Xgames)  the domain is even more extreme, perhaps the only sport that they do not dominate or are almost never favorites is soccer, male, because in the female they are dominant.

At the Olympic games you almost always want to see which sports the United States loses in.

In fact, I check the data because it could be something of a sensation, understand the advertising of the big names, superstars, etc. that can deceive you and make you believe data in our minds that do not correspond, so I check wikipedia:

The first ones organized in 1896 were won by the United States.
United States: 1 (1896):
2 (1904)
3 (1912):4 (1920): 5 (1924): 6 (1928): 7 (1932)
8 (1948):9 (1952)
10 (1964): 11 (1968)
12 (1984)
13 (1996): 14 (2000): 15 (2004)
16 (2012): 17 (2016)

Total: 17 times.

France: 1 (1900).

London: 1 (1908).

Germany: 1 (1936).

USSR: 1 (1956): 2 (1960) * first time that a country other than the United States repeats.
3 (1972): 4 (1976): 5 (1980)
6 (1988)

Unified Team: 1 (1992)

China: 1 (2008)

? -? _ ?: (2021)

Source:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_Olympic_Games

so, 18, 2, 7( 8 ) or 1, are the alternatives.



Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: bryant.coleman on July 21, 2021, 05:51:08 PM
Between 1956 and 1992, out of 10 times, the USSR won the medals table 7 times while US won 3 times. So USSR was clearly dominating during this period. Only after the disintegration of the USSR (from 1996), once again US came out on the top. For a while it looked like China may offer some sort of competition to the monopoly by the United States. And in 2008, they managed to overtake the United States. But after that, due to some unknown reason China fell from their dominance and the US once again become dominant. 


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: LTU_btc on July 21, 2021, 10:19:38 PM
Guys, I know that many of you follow just NBA, so there is good video explaining difference between FIBA and NBA rules. It's good stuff to watch before Olympics if you're not familiar:
https://youtu.be/KvN2ut_cE0k

I am planning to bet on Nigeria against Australia. Is it going to be a nice bet? The odds is around 3.55. If the team was able to beat the number one rank which is the United States, it is also possible they would defeat Australia right?
Well, Australia won against USA too :). Australia are heavy favorites in this game, but there is always chance for upset. And I kinda like Nigeria roster. It will be difficult to take 1-2 place, but I think they have good chance to qualify as 3rd placed team.

Yes there's a big possibility that they can win the gold medal here, it's unfortunate that Greece failed to get in the Olympics they could be the biggest threat if Antekoumpo will lay in the Greece national team so far I don't see any team that can be the biggest threat on the US campaign, once their talent blended they will become unbeatable.
I doubt that Greece would have big chance to take gold. As we saw in 2019 World Cup, for Giannis it's difficult to play by FIBA rules and he can't dominate like in NBA.
I think only Spain can challenge USA for gold.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Sithara007 on July 22, 2021, 03:40:14 AM
Spain is always a tough competitor, they are the silver medalist in the 2008 and 2012 Olympics behind the US team and they could meet the US in the finals I hope the US team got their act together here in the Olympics after those bad exhibitions games they've shown, the US is still the gold medal contender because they are the defending champion.

Along with Serbia and France, Spain is one of the strongest contenders from Europe. And unlike the other two, they have been somewhat consistent in their performance (Serbia failed to qualify this time). The Spanish side has some of its players taking part in the NBA and that experience helps in international basketball. I am talking about players such as Marc Gasol, Juan Hernangómez, Willy Hernangómez, Ricky Rubio and Serge Ibaka. Even Pau Gasol is a part of the squad, although he retired from NBA in 2019.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Fundamentals Of on July 22, 2021, 04:00:47 AM
I am planning to bet on Nigeria against Australia. Is it going to be a nice bet? The odds is around 3.55. If the team was able to beat the number one rank which is the United States, it is also possible they would defeat Australia right?
Well, Australia won against USA too :). Australia are heavy favorites in this game, but there is always chance for upset. And I kinda like Nigeria roster. It will be difficult to take 1-2 place, but I think they have good chance to qualify as 3rd placed team.

I actually watched some highlights of the last time the two teams met. That was a game last July 14. It made me realize how strong Australia is. It made me finally change my mind about my bet. Lol. Nigeria was down by 39 in the final score despite the team not fielding the likes of Dellavedova, Mills, Ingles, Baynes, etc. I guess Group B easily goes to Australia. But Nigeria might take the second spot.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: famososMuertos on July 22, 2021, 11:41:24 PM
The saturday 24th are the first games, although as always some soccer games today are played, but that is another story or another thread  :) anyway I already made my bet:
1.Rep W
2.Ita W
3.Aus W
4.USA W
5.Slo W
6.Spa W

Due to the low odds I made several combinations but one of my bets includes the previous one with only 2.98x.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: aioc on July 22, 2021, 11:51:22 PM
For group A I picked the US team for B it's Australia and for C it's Spain, this is based on their showing in the exhibition games and their history, again US will be the favorite to win the gold here because they are fielding a very talented team here, even though they suffer losses in their exhibition they are still a team to beat this Olympic.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Fundamentals Of on July 23, 2021, 02:26:44 AM
For group A I picked the US team for B it's Australia and for C it's Spain, this is based on their showing in the exhibition games and their history, again US will be the favorite to win the gold here because they are fielding a very talented team here, even though they suffer losses in their exhibition they are still a team to beat this Olympic.

USA, Australia, and Spain are the favorites in their respective groups. But USA is highly favorite than the others. The least favorite among the three is Spain, which has Slovenia as a strong competitor.

On the overall winner though, it is almost very clear that USA got the ace. Of course there is always the remote possibility of an upset which could also be interesting in terms of gambling considering the very low odds if one is to bet on USA.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Sithara007 on July 23, 2021, 03:08:22 AM
For group A I picked the US team for B it's Australia and for C it's Spain, this is based on their showing in the exhibition games and their history, again US will be the favorite to win the gold here because they are fielding a very talented team here, even though they suffer losses in their exhibition they are still a team to beat this Olympic.

With a squad that comprises of the top NBA players such as Kevin Durant, Devin Booker and Bam Adebayo, the US are almost impossible to beat. For the other teams, an outside chance will be presented only in case there is any lack of team coordination from the US. But the chances of that is very remote, as the Americans are being led by Kevin Durant of Brooklyn Nets, who is representing the United States in his third Olympics. He is quite experienced as far as the Olympic Games are being concerned.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Vaculin on July 23, 2021, 04:46:04 PM
For group A I picked the US team for B it's Australia and for C it's Spain, this is based on their showing in the exhibition games and their history, again US will be the favorite to win the gold here because they are fielding a very talented team here, even though they suffer losses in their exhibition they are still a team to beat this Olympic.

With a squad that comprises of the top NBA players such as Kevin Durant, Devin Booker and Bam Adebayo, the US are almost impossible to beat. For the other teams, an outside chance will be presented only in case there is any lack of team coordination from the US. But the chances of that is very remote, as the Americans are being led by Kevin Durant of Brooklyn Nets, who is representing the United States in his third Olympics. He is quite experienced as far as the Olympic Games are being concerned.

I really don't think that way as the other teams have better chemistry than the NBA. They only have few players to represent their country so they really know each other compared to the NBA where they are busy with the NBA season. A team that has a better chemistry will win, and we've see how other teams beat the USA in an exhibition match that says they are unbeatable.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: ChiBitCTy on July 23, 2021, 07:33:23 PM
Glad to see this thread as I’ve actually been more in to the Olympic basketball than the NBA championship. The one thing that does kind of suck for me as an American is that the US team really isnt all that great. I do think they are still the favorites, but many of the NBAs best players opted out of being on the team ( Lebron, Curry, Harden, Thompson etc etc).  Can’t wait for the games to start!


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Fredomago on July 23, 2021, 07:39:40 PM

I really don't think that way as the other teams have better chemistry than the NBA. They only have few players to represent their country so they really know each other compared to the NBA where they are busy with the NBA season. A team that has a better chemistry will win, and we've see how other teams beat the USA in an exhibition match that says they are unbeatable.

there are many opinions about  this but we will find it out after the games officially initiated, my personal say about this is the same with those comments above,

With KD leading the team experienced wise, he've got better than those who are in the different teams, though I also value your statement in terms of teamwork, seeing those previous losses from the exhibitions seems team US needs to work it out.

But who knows, knowing coach Pop chemistry is very important from each players inside the court.



Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: ingiltere on July 23, 2021, 10:10:13 PM
Great thread because it was hard to keep up with all other Olympics games, we can focus on basketball here now.
Everybody's favorite is naturally USA. They have superstars like Kevin Durant, Damian Lillard, Zach LaVine, Draymond Green. It's not a dream team but they are still the best one in Olympics. My favorite besides USA is Spain. They played two finals in last three tournaments. I'll closely watch France, Italy, Argentina and Slovenia as well. Dončić carried his country alone. Even if USA and Spain play in final again, we can still watch a good fight for Bronze medal.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Dave1 on July 24, 2021, 02:46:05 AM
Anyone seen this video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaC3LEygCLU

KD somewhat wanted to send the message across as to who is the man in the US team.

"That's my ball" should be the team's slogan moving forward, LOL.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Saisher on July 24, 2021, 02:46:56 AM
I have seen Nigeria beating the US but it's an exhibition match and it's non bearing I still see the US team the team to beat here and most likely to win the gold medal, they are going to blend their talent when the events start, the best contenders are Spain and Australia to me and Nigeria is the dark horse, this is going to be exciting to watch looking forward to seeing these matches.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: harizen on July 24, 2021, 06:30:58 AM
but many of the NBAs best players opted out of being on the team ( Lebron, Curry, Harden, Thompson etc etc).

But even with that, their lineup is still a powerhouse composed of best-of-the-best NBA Superstars much especially that Middleton and Booker are now present. Their bench cast is even deep.

But as a Dallas Mavericks fan for a long, I'm following Luka Doncic's Slovenia.

I'm sure they can handle all teams in their bracket, Group C. Hoping to see them past the preliminary round.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: rhomelmabini on July 24, 2021, 12:12:11 PM
I have seen Nigeria beating the US but it's an exhibition match and it's non bearing I still see the US team the team to beat here and most likely to win the gold medal, they are going to blend their talent when the events start, the best contenders are Spain and Australia to me and Nigeria is the dark horse, this is going to be exciting to watch looking forward to seeing these matches.
Well, they got some backup now with the NBA Finalists Booker, Holiday, and Middleton, of course the game will be lot different now in the actual match to say the least. I'm not so sure about the gold here because it's somehow impossible at this stage considering how many good lineups now for each country especially for Australia, France, Slovenia, and of course Spain who always appear as front-runner for team USA. I'm expecting USA will still be at top 4 here even though there odds was somewhat decreased, in my own opinion.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: coin-investor on July 24, 2021, 12:30:31 PM
With the absence of Serbia, Spain will be the strongest opponent of US, the US team was beaten by two teams in the exhibition match, but I doubt if they are so serious about their game, their talents are not yet fully sync, but once the Olympic, they are up against France in their first preliminary match we'll see if they can hurdle France, who is also a strong team.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Hypnosis00 on July 24, 2021, 01:30:11 PM
With the absence of Serbia, Spain will be the strongest opponent of US, the US team was beaten by two teams in the exhibition match, but I doubt if they are so serious about their game, their talents are not yet fully sync, but once the Olympic, they are up against France in their first preliminary match we'll see if they can hurdle France, who is also a strong team.
I bet on Spain to win, USA is good, no doubt about that, but based on the betting odds, I think I like the underdog although the team USA already won 3 consecutive in the Olympics. Spain is always behind them, I think it's their time to win now.

http://www.iweblists.com/sports/olympics/summer/MensBasketball.html


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Daniel91 on July 24, 2021, 03:33:41 PM
For group A I picked the US team for B it's Australia and for C it's Spain, this is based on their showing in the exhibition games and their history, again US will be the favorite to win the gold here because they are fielding a very talented team here, even though they suffer losses in their exhibition they are still a team to beat this Olympic.

The teams you have chosen are, along with France, the obvious favorites of the whole tournament.
The American national team was very bad at the last World Cup and now they are looking for redemption.
The NBA season just ended, a few days ago, and because of that, the American team struggled in the preliminaries, but with each new game, they will be more ready and better.
In history, America has almost always won an Olympic tournament, especially since NBA players started playing, and it’s hard to expect any surprises at this tournament.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: harizen on July 24, 2021, 08:08:38 PM
The American national team was very bad at the last World Cup and now they are looking for redemption.
The NBA season just ended, a few days ago, and because of that, the American team struggled in the preliminaries, but with each new game, they will be more ready and better.

Team USA has won the Gold medal in the last Olympics.  Maybe what you mean is the result of the Team USA rally in the last FIBA World Cup?

And preliminary round will just start with around 4 hours to go as I'm typing this. Maybe what you are talking about is the exhibition matches weeks ago where Team USA lose to Nigeria and Australia on which should not be a big deal.

Anyways, the tip-off will start between Iran and the Czech Republic in Group A.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: LTU_btc on July 24, 2021, 10:57:07 PM
So, Olympics Basketball tournament is underway and we have 4 games today:
Iran - Czech Republic
Germany - Italy
Australia - Nigeria
USA - France
I expect confident win of Czech Republic, Doncic & co also should beat super veteran Scola. Germany - Italy sounds interesting, but quality of Italy roster is higher.
Does anyone beleive that France can make an upset? Why not?


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: agustina2 on July 24, 2021, 11:13:18 PM
Does anyone beleive that France can make an upset? Why not?

France is not that solid as before so I don't think of an upset win. Team USA is better today as Bucks Jrue Holiday, Khris Middleton, and Suns Devin Booker will now be back to the lineup. These Bucks players are not just specialized in offense but also on defense as we have seen in the NBA Finals. Devin Booker is not good in defense that much but his handle and shooting are getting better like a Steph Curry 2.0.

Maybe France can do a close game but not a win.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Coin_trader on July 24, 2021, 11:27:11 PM
I was going going to all-in on Philippines but I realize they didn't qualify.  :'(

Spain has the best roster in terms of defense since the gasol brothers  is still om there side. I don't the full details of there roster but they just a need a reliable forward to rival again USA in the finals. As usual Slov and Australia still have a good roster too. But still USA will gonna dominate them with a perfect nba all-star roster.  :D


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: goinmerry on July 24, 2021, 11:33:45 PM
I was going going to all-in on Philippines but I realize they didn't qualify.  :'(

They played with pure cadets, all youngsters and I guess 22-23 years old is the eldest, and surprised some teams so it's ok. They will be back next year much stronger. Just need to build experience.

But still USA will gonna dominate them with a perfect nba all-star roster.  :D

As expected. They also have an All-Star bench so from top to bottom, they are solid. Zach Lavine I think is the only one that won't be present in the later game due to Covid-19 protocol.

Team USA is the most dominant team in basketball in every global tournament but I like to see another country to take home the Gold medal in basketball on this year's Olympics.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: ChiBitCTy on July 25, 2021, 01:08:39 AM
I really don't think that way as the other teams have better chemistry than the NBA. They only have few players to represent their country so they really know each other compared to the NBA where they are busy with the NBA season. A team that has a better chemistry will win, and we've see how other teams beat the USA in an exhibition match that says they are unbeatable.

Yes and no.  Growing up in my hometown we had more HS players/larger pool to pull from than the small towns outside my city. I went to a good sports school but those small town teams had been playing together literally their entire lives. If they had some talented ballers it was hard to beat them and my school often lost to those teams with such chemistry.  However top talent reigns supreme.  A rival HS of mine, Lanphier, featured future Big 10 / Univ of Illinois player Richard McBride and a future NBA star player/Olympian/Finals MVP Andre Iquodala.  Despite having the chemistry. they were absolutely no match for Lanphier.  They ended up losing the in state finals game but it was vs a powerhouse (chicago westinghouse).  Proof that elite talent most often tends to prevail.

Anyone seen this video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaC3LEygCLU

KD somewhat wanted to send the message across as to who is the man in the US team.

"That's my ball" should be the team's slogan moving forward, LOL.

Oh Durant is on a mission.  Durant has felt underappreciated his whole career and I know the only reason he's playing on this team is because he knew he'd be the best player in the world to compete in the Olympics and he wants that glory.  Will be fun to see him try and get that gold.  Going to be hard to stop him and Lillard that's for sure.

But still USA will gonna dominate them with a perfect nba all-star roster.  :D

Actually it's far from.  Lebron, Harden, Curry, Thompson, Kawhi and others are all better than every player besides Lillard and Durant.  This is actually a weak team compared to what it could be.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: morvillz7z on July 25, 2021, 01:45:08 AM
Men's tournament is officially underway with Czechs leading Iran at the half 46:30 in the opening game.

https://i.ibb.co/9bxdx8d/hhjkhjg.png

Lucked on my very first bet with a few made 3s in the final minute of the first quarter. Kinda boring match but twas to be expected, funny seeing Hamed Haddadi still playing, dude looks like 50+ (he is in his 30s, by the way, lol), maybe some of you remember him with his stint with the Grizzlies years ago. Nothing surprising so far, Czechs are handling their bizz and will likely win by the double digits at the end and cover their spread (-18.5). They had an incredible qualifier, defeating the super-stacked team of Canada and Greece in the finals to make the trip to Tokyo, interesting how far can they go...



Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: ChiBitCTy on July 25, 2021, 03:24:07 AM
Men's tournament is officially underway with Czechs leading Iran at the half 46:30 in the opening game.

https://i.ibb.co/9bxdx8d/hhjkhjg.png

Lucked on my very first bet with a few made 3s in the final minute of the first quarter. Kinda boring match but twas to be expected, funny seeing Hamed Haddadi still playing, dude looks like 50+ (he is in his 30s, by the way, lol), maybe some of you remember him with his stint with the Grizzlies years ago. Nothing surprising so far, Czechs are handling their bizz and will likely win by the double digits at the end and cover their spread (-18.5). They had an incredible qualifier, defeating the super-stacked team of Canada and Greece in the finals to make the trip to Tokyo, interesting how far can they go...



I dont know Greece's team at all. If they had had Giannis, I imagine it would be inevitable that they would  have made the cut?  Sucks but I'm sure the country will take that NBA championship win all day.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Fredomago on July 25, 2021, 11:56:54 AM
Does anyone beleive that France can make an upset? Why not?

France is not that solid as before so I don't think of an upset win. Team USA is better today as Bucks Jrue Holiday, Khris Middleton, and Suns Devin Booker will now be back to the lineup. These Bucks players are not just specialized in offense but also on defense as we have seen in the NBA Finals. Devin Booker is not good in defense that much but his handle and shooting are getting better like a Steph Curry 2.0.

Maybe France can do a close game but not a win.

We don't know if Gobert, Batum and Fournier will able to handle the all star cast of NBA selections.

Tough assignment for team France knowing that team US is there to prove something after those upset from the exhibitions games,

they wanted to prove that they still dominate this sport, we will see that later 5 mins more before the game start, betting for ML @ 1.11
seems not interesting, better to take the  handicap -11.5 @ 1.75.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Ziskinberg on July 25, 2021, 12:08:55 PM
Does anyone beleive that France can make an upset? Why not?

France is not that solid as before so I don't think of an upset win. Team USA is better today as Bucks Jrue Holiday, Khris Middleton, and Suns Devin Booker will now be back to the lineup. These Bucks players are not just specialized in offense but also on defense as we have seen in the NBA Finals. Devin Booker is not good in defense that much but his handle and shooting are getting better like a Steph Curry 2.0.

Maybe France can do a close game but not a win.

We don't know if Gobert, Batum and Fournier will able to handle the all star cast of NBA selections.

Tough assignment for team France knowing that team US is there to prove something after those upset from the exhibitions games,

they wanted to prove that they still dominate this sport, we will see that later 5 mins more before the game start, betting for ML @ 1.11
seems not interesting, better to take the  handicap -11.5 @ 1.75.

The game has started, it's in the 1st quarter now, it's still not too late for handicapped bettors as -11.5 has a good odds at 1.95. France are competiting, the have a good start so that's the reason why the spread is still good if you favor the USA to win.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: ChiBitCTy on July 25, 2021, 12:33:28 PM
In case anyone needs a stream - https://stream.nbcolympics.com/basketball-mens-prelim-game-4-france-usa

Edit: durant w/3 fouls already is not good at all. The US lacking size is hurting them quite a bit right now too.  This US team is not even close to as good as it could be, but they still should without question win this game.  Prop to France coming out to play today, making it a fun game so far.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: freedomgo on July 25, 2021, 01:02:01 PM
In case anyone needs a stream - https://stream.nbcolympics.com/basketball-mens-prelim-game-4-france-usa

Edit: durant w/3 fouls already is not good at all. The US lacking size is hurting them quite a bit right now too.  This US team is not even close to as good as it could be, but they still should without question win this game.  Prop to France coming out to play today, making it a fun game so far.

I was about to ask about a live streaming, thanks to that you have answered it before I post here. I am just looking at the scoreboard as I also put a little bet on the USA to cover the handicap, and so far they are in the lead so I'm happy now.

37-45 halftime score.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: robelneo on July 25, 2021, 02:04:12 PM
It's a sorry loss for the US team 83-76 they are leading most of the game but cannot keep up,  the two missed free throws of the US in the closing minutes of the game spells the difference, and a missed three points shot by Durant put the US team in big trouble

France showed cohesiveness and aggressiveness in the last 3 minutes they've been playing for a long time, compared to the US, I still hope they can still get into the finals.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: LTU_btc on July 25, 2021, 02:12:31 PM
France win against USA is surprise, but not something sensational I think.
It was great match. Maybe 2:30 minutes remaining, France was down by 8, but they managed to make amazing comeback. But offcourse, there was some luck when USA missed maybe 4 open 3pt shots.
Seems that losses in pre-tournament friendlies was real alarming signal.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: ingiltere on July 25, 2021, 02:44:08 PM
USA blew a lead two times in the game, it was pretty competitive and exciting though. Durant choked out big time, this is something you don't see everyday. I'm sure he will come back better than ever next time. They are lucky this is just a group match, they can compensate this loss.
One of the big series is over, USA lost in Olympics after 17 years. They haven't lost a game since 24 matches. You can understand how big achievement is this win for France. Fournier and De Colo had marvelous performances. They showed they are one of the medal contenders.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Jating on July 25, 2021, 02:56:10 PM
France win against USA is surprise, but not something sensational I think.
It was great match. Maybe 2:30 minutes remaining, France was down by 8, but they managed to make amazing comeback. But offcourse, there was some luck when USA missed maybe 4 open 3pt shots.
Seems that losses in pre-tournament friendlies was real alarming signal.

Was not expecting this lost from USA.

But I do agree, the pre-tournament lost could have been an indication that they could be in a rough Olympics and teams are going to beat them.

But this is just one lost, they can bounce back and tie for the group lead. They have to cover some grounds though, it will be devastating that they got home without that gold and it happen on Durant's watch.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Yogee on July 25, 2021, 04:15:58 PM
I am not impressed with this current US team but one game and a lot of basketball "experts" suddenly asking for Pop's head hehehe. There's a lot of individual talent at their disposal but the preparation for this international competition wasn't the same when they had coack K. I think it's as simple as that. I honestly hope they don't win the gold so they could go back to the same mentality after Athens.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: boltz on July 25, 2021, 04:30:16 PM
I'm not convinced that USA came to play as a team as a saw so many mistakes between the players but I don't know if the players are tired after the NBA season or this team really struggles to have some chemistry and play like a full team or they had just another bad game. All 3 of this possibilities can be true but personally I think the players are kinda tired after NBA season but they will try their best to take the gold to USA.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Oasisman on July 25, 2021, 04:53:39 PM
~snip
Not guaranteed, though as usual team USA is an allstar team, but teams like France, Italy, Spain, and Argentina has always had a chance at winning.
France might be the toughest opponent for the team USA in the first bracket, someone mentioned about what happened between the France and USA matchup in 2019.
Though I agree USA roster is looking great this year, but you can't take away the fact that France is also a good team.
Again, they (USA) have a huge chance and most favourite to win the Gold medal, but those teams I have mentioned will surely give them a good match.
It's not that I am disregarding other teams but the players in the USA is just too good that I feel like they are unstoppable and that they might be able to demolish all the other teams all the way through the finals. I just hope that there's no doping or any funny business happening, I just want these people to have fun and me watching their matches.

Well, it just happened. It came out that they weren't unstoppable at all because France was able to limit their score into 76 points and defended them very well.
Team chemistry might be one of the main factor for this USA loss. The NBA doesn't usually play air tight defense, thus the team USA might not have expected a good defense from the France and struggled to find a way to score.



Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: carlisle1 on July 25, 2021, 04:57:57 PM
I'm not convinced that USA came to play as a team as a saw so many mistakes between the players but I don't know if the players are tired after the NBA season or this team really struggles to have some chemistry and play like a full team or they had just another bad game. All 3 of this possibilities can be true but personally I think the players are kinda tired after NBA season but they will try their best to take the gold to USA.

Overpassing the ball and the leadership isn't there, I was thinking after that good rally coming
from Holiday that fire will start to heat up to all the players inside the floor. But it wasn't they blew that lead and ended up losing the game.

Dame time might forgot he's watch he keeps passing the ball, maybe he  also  left his balls  :P ;D Kidding aside, I don't think that letting Bam alone to protect the rim is the good idea but I'm not questioning how great coach Pop was, it's just a matter of good chemistry and the will to take charge whoever inside the court.

Still have the chance if I get it right, if they can win all the games that left for them which is very possible after losing this one.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Jackl87 on July 25, 2021, 05:15:48 PM
It's a sorry loss for the US team 83-76 they are leading most of the game but cannot keep up,  the two missed free throws of the US in the closing minutes of the game spells the difference, and a missed three points shot by Durant put the US team in big trouble

France showed cohesiveness and aggressiveness in the last 3 minutes they've been playing for a long time, compared to the US, I still hope they can still get into the finals.

This result may seem very surprising at first glance, but if you study the subject a little, this outcome was even almost predictable. Many experts have predicted that the US team might struggle in this tournament and there is definitely no guaranteed gold medal if they don't give their best. There are several reasons for this. For one, the Americans didn't really send a team, but simply the most well-known players who wanted to go to Tokyo. On the other hand, the FIBA rules apply at the Olympic Games, not the NBA rules, and it is now the case that there are no small teams any more; the national team of almost every country now consists of professionals.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: yazher on July 25, 2021, 06:04:16 PM
I'm not convinced that USA came to play as a team as a saw so many mistakes between the players but I don't know if the players are tired after the NBA season or this team really struggles to have some chemistry and play like a full team or they had just another bad game. All 3 of this possibilities can be true but personally I think the players are kinda tired after NBA season but they will try their best to take the gold to USA.

We rarely see them play like this because usually, we witnessed how great they are in the last decades however if something is going on with the players, we will know the stories behind it in the next years when they make a documentary about this unusual play in the Olympics. Something is really happening with them and if they gonna lose again against a team they usually beat, then the gold medal will only be another dream for most of them.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Harkorede on July 25, 2021, 07:23:05 PM
France win against USA is surprise, but not something sensational I think.
It was great match. Maybe 2:30 minutes remaining, France was down by 8, but they managed to make amazing comeback. But offcourse, there was some luck when USA missed maybe 4 open 3pt shots.
Seems that losses in pre-tournament friendlies was real alarming signal.

Perhaps we downplayed that signal, The only reason why I didn’t get any bet on today was because I couldn’t meet up with my the timing and I would have gone with team USA.

Still have the chance if I get it right, if they can win all the games that left for them which is very possible after losing this one.

The fact that there will also be two best third placed team selected among the 3 groups would increase their chances of making it through, but crashing out early would be nothing short of an epic failure.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: ChiBitCTy on July 25, 2021, 08:03:30 PM
Sucks seeing them lose but it's not shocking.  There are only two super stars on the team as most US super stars decided not to play this time around ( Lebron, Leonard, Curry, Thompson, George, Irving, Davis, Zion, Westbrook, Paul, Harden) and I'm probably forgetting one or two others.  So while it was certainly an impressive win, they were playing a USA "B-Team".  Obviously if the US had all it's stars playing they would destroy everyone like they normally do with ease.  Still hope for Gold though of course.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: stadus on July 25, 2021, 08:39:57 PM
Sucks seeing them lose but it's not shocking.  There are only two super stars on the team as most US super stars decided not to play this time around ( Lebron, Leonard, Curry, Thompson, George, Irving, Davis, Zion, Westbrook, Paul, Harden) and I'm probably forgetting one or two others.  So while it was certainly an impressive win, they were playing a USA "B-Team".  Obviously if the US had all it's stars playing they would destroy everyone like they normally do with ease.  Still hope for Gold though of course.
Honestly, I think the lineup of the USA is good enough to win, but it's just disappointing to see them lose against France, however, we should give France the credit they deserve. I am surprised with the result as I was thinking they'll dominate France, the handicap was -10.5, so bookies also believe they'll win easily.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: wheelz1200 on July 25, 2021, 08:58:16 PM
Sucks seeing them lose but it's not shocking.  There are only two super stars on the team as most US super stars decided not to play this time around ( Lebron, Leonard, Curry, Thompson, George, Irving, Davis, Zion, Westbrook, Paul, Harden) and I'm probably forgetting one or two others.  So while it was certainly an impressive win, they were playing a USA "B-Team".  Obviously if the US had all it's stars playing they would destroy everyone like they normally do with ease.  Still hope for Gold though of course.

Yeah and they really have no center presence.  Couple bad shooting games and they are out of the games.  I hate when they build and entire team of shooters.  When time comes to bang down low they can't against certain teams that are beefy down there.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: LTU_btc on July 25, 2021, 09:15:55 PM
Just 2 games on Monday, but one is definitely worth to watch - Argentina - Slovenia. 2019 World Cup runners-up vs Euro 2017 winners. One of the best European players Doncic vs 41 year old grandpa Luis Scola who is still good at such age.

Still have the chance if I get it right, if they can win all the games that left for them which is very possible after losing this one.
Their next opponent is Iran - weakest team in whole tournament without any doubts. So, I expect big win. Then, Czech Republic. Good team which can give fight, but IMO they aren't capable to beat USA.

Sucks seeing them lose but it's not shocking.  There are only two super stars on the team as most US super stars decided not to play this time around ( Lebron, Leonard, Curry, Thompson, George, Irving, Davis, Zion, Westbrook, Paul, Harden) and I'm probably forgetting one or two others.  So while it was certainly an impressive win, they were playing a USA "B-Team".  Obviously if the US had all it's stars playing they would destroy everyone like they normally do with ease.  Still hope for Gold though of course.
It's excuses. Almost in every major tournament USA have missing some superstars, buti even with B-Team they were destroying all their opponents by 30 points at least. But times had changed. With all superstars probably they would win gold, but I doubt that they would have easy life and would destroy Nigeria by 80 points liker they did in London Olympics.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Yamifoud on July 25, 2021, 09:18:16 PM
Sucks seeing them lose but it's not shocking.  There are only two super stars on the team as most US super stars decided not to play this time around ( Lebron, Leonard, Curry, Thompson, George, Irving, Davis, Zion, Westbrook, Paul, Harden) and I'm probably forgetting one or two others.  So while it was certainly an impressive win, they were playing a USA "B-Team".  Obviously if the US had all it's stars playing they would destroy everyone like they normally do with ease.  Still hope for Gold though of course.

Yeah and they really have no center presence.  Couple bad shooting games and they are out of the games.  I hate when they build and entire team of shooters.  When time comes to bang down low they can't against certain teams that are beefy down there.

I'm not so familiar with the rules.

Let me ask, is this the first time the USA has lost in the competition? if they win in the succeeding games, do they still have a chance to win that gold medal?


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Questat on July 25, 2021, 09:47:28 PM
Sucks seeing them lose but it's not shocking.  There are only two super stars on the team as most US super stars decided not to play this time around ( Lebron, Leonard, Curry, Thompson, George, Irving, Davis, Zion, Westbrook, Paul, Harden) and I'm probably forgetting one or two others.  So while it was certainly an impressive win, they were playing a USA "B-Team".  Obviously if the US had all it's stars playing they would destroy everyone like they normally do with ease.  Still hope for Gold though of course.

Yeah and they really have no center presence.  Couple bad shooting games and they are out of the games.  I hate when they build and entire team of shooters.  When time comes to bang down low they can't against certain teams that are beefy down there.

I'm not so familiar with the rules.

Let me ask, is this the first time the USA has lost in the competition? if they win in the succeeding games, do they still have a chance to win that gold medal?

This article might be able to help you, try to read it.

 Olympic basketball bracket, explained: How group play, standings work for 2021 tournaments
 (https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/olympic-basketball-bracket-group-play-standings/1ay26ypi8s7yo1q6l1t1dec8ed)

USA still has a chance though, and I think they can still win the gold medal.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: wheelz1200 on July 25, 2021, 09:57:07 PM
Sucks seeing them lose but it's not shocking.  There are only two super stars on the team as most US super stars decided not to play this time around ( Lebron, Leonard, Curry, Thompson, George, Irving, Davis, Zion, Westbrook, Paul, Harden) and I'm probably forgetting one or two others.  So while it was certainly an impressive win, they were playing a USA "B-Team".  Obviously if the US had all it's stars playing they would destroy everyone like they normally do with ease.  Still hope for Gold though of course.

Yeah and they really have no center presence.  Couple bad shooting games and they are out of the games.  I hate when they build and entire team of shooters.  When time comes to bang down low they can't against certain teams that are beefy down there.

I'm not so familiar with the rules.

Let me ask, is this the first time the USA has lost in the competition? if they win in the succeeding games, do they still have a chance to win that gold medal?

This article might be able to help you, try to read it.

 Olympic basketball bracket, explained: How group play, standings work for 2021 tournaments
 (https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/olympic-basketball-bracket-group-play-standings/1ay26ypi8s7yo1q6l1t1dec8ed)

USA still has a chance though, and I think they can still win the gold medal.

Yeah they can still win this just puts a lot of pressure on them as you can't lose too many games otherwise you will be left out and not qualify for the medal rounds.  Not sure how many games they can lost but it can't be more than one or 2 before you get sent packing.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: robelneo on July 25, 2021, 10:30:02 PM


The fact that there will also be two best third placed team selected among the 3 groups would increase their chances of making it through, but crashing out early would be nothing short of an epic failure.

The US team like what I posted earlier are composed of great individual players but basketball is a team sport, if they cannot blend their talent very well and get used to the amateur rules, they could be in big trouble, France showed them what it meant to play basketball together they have a good defense and good passing.
Thye still has a good chance to regroup but there are still tough teams out there like Spain and Nigeria. it will be a hard climb this time.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: gagux123 on July 25, 2021, 10:58:20 PM
wow, i didn't know they had already created an exclusive topic for basketball at the Tokyo olympics. how i'm inattentive lol

I hope these Olympics are competitive and interesting!

By the way, does anyone know a website where I can see the lineups, scores and stats of each player?!?
Thanks


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Saint-loup on July 25, 2021, 11:22:01 PM
Sucks seeing them lose but it's not shocking.  There are only two super stars on the team as most US super stars decided not to play this time around ( Lebron, Leonard, Curry, Thompson, George, Irving, Davis, Zion, Westbrook, Paul, Harden) and I'm probably forgetting one or two others.  So while it was certainly an impressive win, they were playing a USA "B-Team".  Obviously if the US had all it's stars playing they would destroy everyone like they normally do with ease.  Still hope for Gold though of course.

Yeah and they really have no center presence.  Couple bad shooting games and they are out of the games.  I hate when they build and entire team of shooters.  When time comes to bang down low they can't against certain teams that are beefy down there.

I'm not so familiar with the rules.

Let me ask, is this the first time the USA has lost in the competition? if they win in the succeeding games, do they still have a chance to win that gold medal?
Yes it's the first time they loses since 2004 in the olympic competition, to continue they need to win against the Czech Republic or Iran because only the 2 first teams of each group, and the 2 best third teams of all groups are selected for the quarter-finals.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: smyslov on July 26, 2021, 01:34:05 AM
Yes it's the first time they loses since 2004 in the olympic competition, to continue they need to win against the Czech Republic or Iran because only the 2 first teams of each group, and the 2 best third teams of all groups are selected for the quarter-finals.

They still have a chance but wow this is a big blow-up for the US team they are leading on the first three quarters until they falter on the last five minutes of the game, this is heartbreaking for the US team, they are still not blending well and will have to catch up and play as a team, Durant can't carry this team alone, I hope this team will not end up as a weaker team.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: crzy on July 26, 2021, 02:20:50 AM
Yes it's the first time they loses since 2004 in the olympic competition, to continue they need to win against the Czech Republic or Iran because only the 2 first teams of each group, and the 2 best third teams of all groups are selected for the quarter-finals.

They still have a chance but wow this is a big blow-up for the US team they are leading on the first three quarters until they falter on the last five minutes of the game, this is heartbreaking for the US team, they are still not blending well and will have to catch up and play as a team, Durant can't carry this team alone, I hope this team will not end up as a weaker team.
A lot of key players declined to play on this Olympic and that's why they are having trouble plus their practice time together are very limited, we all know that KD is not effective alone, someone should step up and help KD. This is a big disappointment to many as defending champion, USA should do everything on their second game or else their Olympic journey will end this first round.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: goinmerry on July 26, 2021, 03:35:53 AM
France winning against the Team USA really surprises everyone. What's the odds by the way for the Team France here?

And just to clarify to others, Team USA still has a shot at the Gold medal. They just need to settle a win the next time as every win is necessary at their group.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: nitrobetting on July 26, 2021, 03:38:53 AM
Yeah and they really have no center presence.  Couple bad shooting games and they are out of the games.  I hate when they build and entire team of shooters.  When time comes to bang down low they can't against certain teams that are beefy down there.

I agree. They are likely going to be an up an down team just because a lot of their offense relies on jump shooting. Even their center Bam Adebayo relies on jumpers rather than powering his way on the paint. Also, I think the level of playmaking on this team is average. KD would have to make plays other than focusing on being a primary scorer because Dame and Jrue aren't really "true" point guards to begin with.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: gagux123 on July 26, 2021, 03:45:43 AM
Yes it's the first time they loses since 2004 in the olympic competition, to continue they need to win against the Czech Republic or Iran because only the 2 first teams of each group, and the 2 best third teams of all groups are selected for the quarter-finals.
I confess that, I was surprised with the US defeat, despite not having their best players, the US has a good team, maybe even better than France, (if we look at the team roster)

But I still believe the US has potential to win in 1st place.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: rhomelmabini on July 26, 2021, 04:15:48 AM
Yes it's the first time they loses since 2004 in the olympic competition, to continue they need to win against the Czech Republic or Iran because only the 2 first teams of each group, and the 2 best third teams of all groups are selected for the quarter-finals.
I confess that, I was surprised with the US defeat, despite not having their best players, the US has a good team, maybe even better than France, (if we look at the team roster)

But I still believe the US has potential to win in 1st place.

Still confident the USA will make it to the semis. Well, loving the statement by Evan Fournier that they may be tough or something but with team effort from them they make to win against the former Olympic gold medalist. We're not seeing a high caliber USA team this time around looks like USA hasn't consider a good contender team.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: gagux123 on July 26, 2021, 06:29:48 AM
Still confident the USA will make it to the semis. Well, loving the statement by Evan Fournier that they may be tough or something but with team effort from them they make to win against the former Olympic gold medalist. We're not seeing a high caliber USA team this time around looks like USA hasn't consider a good contender team.
Yes, that's an interesting point!
The USA still has a good roster, I don't know, but I still believe the USA can reach the finals, or even be champions, but for this to happen the team needs to play VERY well.

The best word I can say about the USA team is... in these Olympics the USA is a beatable team

But to know the answer, we'll need to see how the USA and otherS teams will perform in future.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: LogitechMouse on July 26, 2021, 07:40:08 AM
France winning against the Team USA really surprises everyone. What's the odds by the way for the Team France here?

And just to clarify to others, Team USA still has a shot at the Gold medal. They just need to settle a win the next time as every win is necessary at their group.
Seeing them losing is kinda rare but I agree with what Fournier said in the interview that "They are better individually but they can be beaten as a team" LINK (https://celticswire.usatoday.com/2021/07/25/bostons-evan-fournier-comments-on-how-france-was-able-to-upset-the-us/)

Its their first loss in Olympics in 17 years that is why we are in a state where we are shocked whenever we see US team losing in the Olympics. After all, they are just like other players in other countries. They have good games and at the same time bad games. After what happened, I believe that US will bounce back in their next games. I believe in Coach Pop :).


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: qwertyup23 on July 26, 2021, 10:20:53 AM
France winning against the Team USA really surprises everyone. What's the odds by the way for the Team France here?

And just to clarify to others, Team USA still has a shot at the Gold medal. They just need to settle a win the next time as every win is necessary at their group.
Seeing them losing is kinda rare but I agree with what Fournier said in the interview that "They are better individually but they can be beaten as a team" LINK (https://celticswire.usatoday.com/2021/07/25/bostons-evan-fournier-comments-on-how-france-was-able-to-upset-the-us/)

Its their first loss in Olympics in 17 years that is why we are in a state where we are shocked whenever we see US team losing in the Olympics. After all, they are just like other players in other countries. They have good games and at the same time bad games. After what happened, I believe that US will bounce back in their next games. I believe in Coach Pop :).

The problem with the US team is their team chemistry. Fournier is definitely right that individually, the US team is better. That is why, the US Team must be able to adapt and improve their ball rotation and trust to one another so the team could be a good oiled machine.

Imagine, the teams from the olympics have been practicing their craft as a team ever since. But in the case of US, they have been adding and adding players on the last minute which I think affected their performance as a whole.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Kittygalore on July 26, 2021, 10:31:15 AM
I confess that, I was surprised with the US defeat, despite not having their best players, the US has a good team, maybe even better than France, (if we look at the team roster)

But I still believe the US has potential to win in 1st place.

Oh, they will win this, I don't think that 1 defeat is going to be a problem for them. It's a surprising defeat but it's not a damning one since they can still play another game.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: btc_angela on July 26, 2021, 10:44:35 AM
I confess that, I was surprised with the US defeat, despite not having their best players, the US has a good team, maybe even better than France, (if we look at the team roster)

But I still believe the US has potential to win in 1st place.

Oh, they will win this, I don't think that 1 defeat is going to be a problem for them. It's a surprising defeat but it's not a damning one since they can still play another game.

They really need to, they will be facing Iran next, I think that they can get a win here.

And let's look at the odds, 1.01, LOL, it seems that it is going to be a sure win, just a matter on how much they are going to win, so far it's -39.5 that's very big handicapped coming from a lost against France. But it seems the punters are not oblivious with the surprise lost they got and still favouring them with that huge handicap.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: stadus on July 26, 2021, 11:01:35 AM
Luka made history.
Luka Doncic scores 48 points in Olympic debut, Slovenia crushes Argentina
 (https://www.sportsnet.ca/olympics/article/luka-doncic-scores-48-points-olympic-debut-slovenia-crushes-argentina/)
He has oozing confidence, he is a superstar in the NBA, still a superstar in the Olympics. How good this guy is?

Anyone here thinks that Slovenia has a chance to win the gold medal?


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: W Jr. on July 26, 2021, 11:51:34 AM
Luka made history.
Luka Doncic scores 48 points in Olympic debut, Slovenia crushes Argentina
 (https://www.sportsnet.ca/olympics/article/luka-doncic-scores-48-points-olympic-debut-slovenia-crushes-argentina/)
He has oozing confidence, he is a superstar in the NBA, still a superstar in the Olympics. How good this guy is?

Anyone here thinks that Slovenia has a chance to win the gold medal?

Despite his very young age (22 years old), Luka Doncic became the second highest scorer in the Olympics. Congratulations to Doncic. The current record was broken in the 1988 Olympics, when Brazilian legend Oscar Schmidt scored 55 points against Spain. If Slovenia beat Argentina 118-100, the top contributor is Luka Doncic. The Olympics have just begun. Will he be able to break a record with Slovenia?


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: LTU_btc on July 26, 2021, 12:04:25 PM
Luka is insane. 48 points (more than his personal best in NBA) in FIBA rules game which lasts only 40 minutes, not 48. What a dominance. Such performances in FIBA basketball is extremely rare.
And what an offense by Slovenia - 118 points against really solid team, wow. Though, 41 year L. Scola still got it - 23 points.
As Lithuanian, now I'm not so angry anymore that we lost to Slovenia in Olympics qualifier final.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Daniel91 on July 26, 2021, 12:08:03 PM
Yes it's the first time they loses since 2004 in the olympic competition, to continue they need to win against the Czech Republic or Iran because only the 2 first teams of each group, and the 2 best third teams of all groups are selected for the quarter-finals.
I confess that, I was surprised with the US defeat, despite not having their best players, the US has a good team, maybe even better than France, (if we look at the team roster)

But I still believe the US has potential to win in 1st place.


Of course, the American team is still the main favorite of this Olympic tournament and this defeat will not change that.
However, this defeat once again showed that the American team is not untouchable, that they are vulnerable and that they can be defeated.
This means that in the continuation of the tournament, everyone will try to repeat this feat of France and will not enter the matches with America with the fear of a big defeat, but with the desire to try to win.
Obviously, the American players did not come fully prepared for this tournament and it will be difficult for them to win the gold medal again.
The difference between America and the rest of the world in basketball is getting smaller every year and this can be seen in the performances of the American national team in recent years.
I think Spain, France and Australia will be America’s main rivals in the fight for gold.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Ziskinberg on July 26, 2021, 12:20:48 PM
Luka made history.
Luka Doncic scores 48 points in Olympic debut, Slovenia crushes Argentina
 (https://www.sportsnet.ca/olympics/article/luka-doncic-scores-48-points-olympic-debut-slovenia-crushes-argentina/)
He has oozing confidence, he is a superstar in the NBA, still a superstar in the Olympics. How good this guy is?

Anyone here thinks that Slovenia has a chance to win the gold medal?

Despite his very young age (22 years old), Luka Doncic became the second highest scorer in the Olympics. Congratulations to Doncic. The current record was broken in the 1988 Olympics, when Brazilian legend Oscar Schmidt scored 55 points against Spain. If Slovenia beat Argentina 118-100, the top contributor is Luka Doncic. The Olympics have just begun. Will he be able to break a record with Slovenia?

Luka still did his magic in the Olympics. He is really legit, not only in NBA but in international competitions as well where defense is really hard. Congratulations to him, he will continue to earn fans all over the world and the NBA stars are tweeting about Luka, they are happy with his achievement.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: danherbias07 on July 26, 2021, 12:49:02 PM
Luka still did his magic in the Olympics. He is really legit, not only in NBA but in international competitions as well where defense is really hard. Congratulations to him, he will continue to earn fans all over the world and the NBA stars are tweeting about Luka, they are happy with his achievement.
He's everywhere. Rebounds 11, blocks 3, assists 5, and 48 points 31 in a half. Just like what Dame said, these guys are different when they are playing for their country.
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"They got more freedom, and the comfort level is obvious. So we put ourselves in a dogfight, and they made plays to win it."
There is the comfort of playing with your own people that understands you with your first language and traditions. It's a different type of chemistry.
Olympics just got better with our international NBA players being good at it. But for a debut? That's awesome.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: goinmerry on July 26, 2021, 01:12:15 PM
However, this defeat once again showed that the American team is not untouchable, that they are vulnerable and that they can be defeated.

They are beatable. Everyone thinks that the USA is unbeatable because their players are the best in the world, popularity and skill.

Team USA holds the longest winning streak at any global basketball competition.

Obviously, the American players did not come fully prepared for this tournament and it will be difficult for them to win the gold medal again.

Hey, it's the Olympics and reasons like that should not be the thing to blame for why the USA loses.

They lose, that's all. They need to bounce back.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Yaunfitda on July 26, 2021, 02:29:35 PM
Luka made history.
Luka Doncic scores 48 points in Olympic debut, Slovenia crushes Argentina
 (https://www.sportsnet.ca/olympics/article/luka-doncic-scores-48-points-olympic-debut-slovenia-crushes-argentina/)
He has oozing confidence, he is a superstar in the NBA, still a superstar in the Olympics. How good this guy is?

Anyone here thinks that Slovenia has a chance to win the gold medal?

Despite his very young age (22 years old), Luka Doncic became the second highest scorer in the Olympics. Congratulations to Doncic. The current record was broken in the 1988 Olympics, when Brazilian legend Oscar Schmidt scored 55 points against Spain. If Slovenia beat Argentina 118-100, the top contributor is Luka Doncic. The Olympics have just begun. Will he be able to break a record with Slovenia?

Luka still did his magic in the Olympics. He is really legit, not only in NBA but in international competitions as well where defense is really hard. Congratulations to him, he will continue to earn fans all over the world and the NBA stars are tweeting about Luka, they are happy with his achievement.

Not surprising the Luka's magic is still thriving in the Olympics. I do hope that they can advance in their groupings.

Anyone on betting though?

https://i.imgur.com/64mUNrz.png

Was looking at some good odds and seen the game between the two countries, so I might as well pull the trigger and win.

Score is 77-88 in favor of Spain vs Japan.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Yamifoud on July 26, 2021, 02:47:56 PM
Luka made history.
Luka Doncic scores 48 points in Olympic debut, Slovenia crushes Argentina
 (https://www.sportsnet.ca/olympics/article/luka-doncic-scores-48-points-olympic-debut-slovenia-crushes-argentina/)
He has oozing confidence, he is a superstar in the NBA, still a superstar in the Olympics. How good this guy is?

Anyone here thinks that Slovenia has a chance to win the gold medal?

Despite his very young age (22 years old), Luka Doncic became the second highest scorer in the Olympics. Congratulations to Doncic. The current record was broken in the 1988 Olympics, when Brazilian legend Oscar Schmidt scored 55 points against Spain. If Slovenia beat Argentina 118-100, the top contributor is Luka Doncic. The Olympics have just begun. Will he be able to break a record with Slovenia?

Luka still did his magic in the Olympics. He is really legit, not only in NBA but in international competitions as well where defense is really hard. Congratulations to him, he will continue to earn fans all over the world and the NBA stars are tweeting about Luka, they are happy with his achievement.

Not surprising the Luka's magic is still thriving in the Olympics. I do hope that they can advance in their groupings.

Anyone on betting though?

https://i.imgur.com/64mUNrz.png

Was looking at some good odds and seen the game between the two countries, so I might as well pull the trigger and win.

Score is 77-88 in favor of Spain vs Japan.

Easy win mate, I was not expecting that Japan will only lose by 10 points, I thought Spain would dominate them by 20 points win. Good thing you bet on the total, and with that you win. What was the point spread of this game? I'm sure it's over 10 points for the Spain.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Ziskinberg on July 26, 2021, 03:25:07 PM
Good thing you bet on the total, and with that you win. What was the point spread of this game? I'm sure it's over 10 points for the Spain.

Here are the odds.  https://www.telecomasia.net/sports-betting/tips/basketball/tokyo-olympics-2021-japan-vs-spain-betting-tips-odds-26-july-2021/

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Japan to win with a handicap of (+18.5) with odds of about 1.922;
Total over 152.5 for 1.909;
Spain to win for 1.02.

That means Japan covers because Spain only won by 10 points.

both NBA players lead their respective teams.

https://olympics.com/tokyo-2020/olympic-games/en/results/basketball/results-men-gpc-000200-.htm

RUBIO Ricky 20 points (Minnesota Timberwolves)
HACHIMURA Rui 20 points ( Washington Wizards)


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: ingiltere on July 26, 2021, 03:37:07 PM
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Japan to win with a handicap of (+18.5) with odds of about 1.922;
Total over 152.5 for 1.909;
Spain to win for 1.02.

That means Japan covers because Spain only won by 10 points.

both NBA players lead their respective teams.

https://olympics.com/tokyo-2020/olympic-games/en/results/basketball/results-men-gpc-000200-.htm

RUBIO Ricky 20 points (Minnesota Timberwolves)
HACHIMURA Rui 20 points ( Washington Wizards)

That was actually quite good margin to play with, Spain was favorite and better side but there were no big differences like 20 points. Japan played competitive and stayed in the game until last minutes. Hachimura and Watanabe carried Japan. Spain is a complete team on the other side, Rubio, both Gasol, Rodriguez, Llull and Abrines played good, everybody did their part. Rubio made the difference.
This Japan team may be a trouble for Argentina and Slovenia. I can already see that third place of this group will advance to next round. It's the toughest group.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Ziskinberg on July 26, 2021, 04:39:25 PM
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Japan to win with a handicap of (+18.5) with odds of about 1.922;
Total over 152.5 for 1.909;
Spain to win for 1.02.

That means Japan covers because Spain only won by 10 points.

both NBA players lead their respective teams.

https://olympics.com/tokyo-2020/olympic-games/en/results/basketball/results-men-gpc-000200-.htm

RUBIO Ricky 20 points (Minnesota Timberwolves)
HACHIMURA Rui 20 points ( Washington Wizards)

That was actually quite good margin to play with, Spain was favorite and better side but there were no big differences like 20 points. Japan played competitive and stayed in the game until last minutes. Hachimura and Watanabe carried Japan. Spain is a complete team on the other side, Rubio, both Gasol, Rodriguez, Llull and Abrines played good, everybody did their part. Rubio made the difference.
This Japan team may be a trouble for Argentina and Slovenia. I can already see that third place of this group will advance to next round. It's the toughest group.

Maybe for Argentina but I don't see they can beat Slovenia which has the best player in the Olympics so far. Luka dropped 48 points to beat Argentina by 18 points, it was a well-dominated game and Luka is just too much for Argentina. If Argentina and Japan will face, most probably the handicap will be close, so it's either I'm betting on the Japan to win straight up or take the handicap if they will be the underdog.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Botnake on July 26, 2021, 04:56:52 PM
If Argentina and Japan will face, most probably the handicap will be close, so it's either I'm betting on the Japan to win straight up or take the handicap if they will be the underdog.

Odds are already available and we are not seeing a close odds, kindly check one of the bookies I'm using.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/basketball/international/olympic-games/argentina-japan-60fd2972c4bb8ae07b5bdd4a
https://i.imgur.com/RsK7idT.png

If you will take Japan, you got a sweet odds.



Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Eureka_07 on July 26, 2021, 05:08:20 PM
If Argentina and Japan will face, most probably the handicap will be close, so it's either I'm betting on the Japan to win straight up or take the handicap if they will be the underdog.

Odds are already available and we are not seeing a close odds, kindly check one of the bookies I'm using.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/basketball/international/olympic-games/argentina-japan-60fd2972c4bb8ae07b5bdd4a
https://i.imgur.com/RsK7idT.png

If you will take Japan, you got a sweet odds.


The current roster of Japan is very strong. IMO they could really beat down argentina. They have the right people for their positions, they have 2 NBA players too which really made them strong.
I'll bet on Japan team this year over Argentina.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: gagux123 on July 26, 2021, 05:33:08 PM
Of course, the American team is still the main favorite of this Olympic tournament and this defeat will not change that.
However, this defeat once again showed that the American team is not untouchable, that they are vulnerable and that they can be defeated.
This means that in the continuation of the tournament, everyone will try to repeat this feat of France and will not enter the matches with America with the fear of a big defeat, but with the desire to try to win.
Obviously, the American players did not come fully prepared for this tournament and it will be difficult for them to win the gold medal again.
The difference between America and the rest of the world in basketball is getting smaller every year and this can be seen in the performances of the American national team in recent years.
I think Spain, France and Australia will be America’s main rivals in the fight for gold.
Exactly, yes, they proved that the USA team is a beatable team. I have no doubts that the USA can be champions, but for that to happen, they need to play really well!
Most of the time, Spain and France have excellent teams, but I didn't know that Australia currently has a good team.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Fredomago on July 26, 2021, 06:31:16 PM
If Argentina and Japan will face, most probably the handicap will be close, so it's either I'm betting on the Japan to win straight up or take the handicap if they will be the underdog.

Odds are already available and we are not seeing a close odds, kindly check one of the bookies I'm using.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/basketball/international/olympic-games/argentina-japan-60fd2972c4bb8ae07b5bdd4a
https://i.imgur.com/RsK7idT.png

If you will take Japan, you got a sweet odds.


The current roster of Japan is very strong. IMO they could really beat down argentina. They have the right people for their positions, they have 2 NBA players too which really made them strong.
I'll bet on Japan team this year over Argentina.

taking side for the home team will give you very decent profits if happened that they'll be able to beat up team Argentina,

both teams needs the win to continue the chase of winning the medals, for sure there's an interesting competitions between this two rival countries, knowing that olympics is very important for each teams / players to represent their home land.

Good luck if you already place your bet, that's really sweet if Japan upset the Argentinians.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: harizen on July 26, 2021, 06:51:25 PM
Anyone here thinks that Slovenia has a chance to win the gold medal?

I will say YES because I'm just biased lol.

I already mentioned that I was a long-time Dallas Mavericks and since it was "Luka", I'm following Slovenia's rally here in the Olympics. The same as what I did back when Dirk Nowitzki is still playing for Germany.

Looking forward to seeing them winning their first gold medal in basketball in the Olympics even chances might be slim to others.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: LTU_btc on July 26, 2021, 07:09:44 PM
Tomorrow there will be break in basketball tournament. Only womens will play if somebody are interested.
Also, does any of you watch 3x3 tournament? Personally, I like it. The who have played it, knows that it's much more intensive than 5x5 basketball. So far Serbia dominate, while Nethlerlands a bit surprising 2nd. But Latvia and Russia are very close to them.

Looking forward to seeing them winning their first gold medal in basketball in the Olympics even chances might be slim to others.
I'm still not sure that they can be gold contenders. Medal is full possible, but gold, I don't know.
It's short tournament, but with such intensity and short bench it will be difficult against teams with deep squads.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: ingiltere on July 26, 2021, 09:35:01 PM
Anyone here thinks that Slovenia has a chance to win the gold medal?

I don't think they can reach gold medal but they are one of the teams that has potential to get a medal, even if it was bronze one. I wonder what will happen in Spain game, that will be a real challenge for Slovenia. We can talk more comfortably about Slovenia's chances after that game.
I see France and Spain closer to medals and of course USA will come back and fight for gold. Quarter final draw may be more decisive about team's medal chances. If they don't match each other we can see France, Spain and USA in semi finals. I leave fourth spot blank as these teams are better than all others generally.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: gagux123 on July 26, 2021, 09:54:01 PM
Anyone here thinks that Slovenia has a chance to win the gold medal?
To answer your question... I'll be honest, being champions I don't know, but I strongly believe that they have a chance of getting a medal (probably bronze).
Slovenia is an excellent team, Luka Dondic carried the team on his back against Argentina (48 points, 6-14 - 3 points), let's see if Luka will continue with that same performance! I will follow the next games.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Vaskiy on July 26, 2021, 11:17:54 PM
Anyone watched the vollyball tournament. I watched the match between Argentina and Brazil. What a match, really enjoyed much. The first two sets were qon by Argentina and the last three sets got won by Brazil. The deciding set was truly enjoyable and heart pounds if you were supporting anyone of the team. The points moved equally against each team till the end of the deciding set.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: btc_angela on July 27, 2021, 11:10:36 AM
If Argentina and Japan will face, most probably the handicap will be close, so it's either I'm betting on the Japan to win straight up or take the handicap if they will be the underdog.

Odds are already available and we are not seeing a close odds, kindly check one of the bookies I'm using.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/basketball/international/olympic-games/argentina-japan-60fd2972c4bb8ae07b5bdd4a

If you will take Japan, you got a sweet odds.


Not just there men's side, but on the women's side they are strong as well. They are the underdogs against France. France took at early lead but Japan come back tie the score, take the lead, they France comes back again.

It was a really a very exciting match, but in the end Japan edges France 74-70.

I will also be closely monitor their women's side, they might pull some upset specially that they are playing in their home court.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Daniel91 on July 27, 2021, 11:30:50 AM
Anyone here thinks that Slovenia has a chance to win the gold medal?
To answer your question... I'll be honest, being champions I don't know, but I strongly believe that they have a chance of getting a medal (probably bronze).
Slovenia is an excellent team, Luka Dondic carried the team on his back against Argentina (48 points, 6-14 - 3 points), let's see if Luka will continue with that same performance! I will follow the next games.


Luka Doncic is the biggest advantage and disadvantage of the Slovenian team.
Sometimes it seems to me that Slovenia is ''one man show'' when I watch their matches which is not very good.
Slovenia depends too much on Doncic and whoever stops him stops Slovenia.
Yes, Slovenia has a chance for a medal but they are not the main favorites of the tournament.
Apart from the USA, I prefer France and Spain as more experienced and better balanced teams.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Reid on July 27, 2021, 02:55:59 PM
Luka Doncic is the biggest advantage and disadvantage of the Slovenian team.
Sometimes it seems to me that Slovenia is ''one man show'' when I watch their matches which is not very good.
Slovenia depends too much on Doncic and whoever stops him stops Slovenia.
Yes, Slovenia has a chance for a medal but they are not the main favorites of the tournament.
Apart from the USA, I prefer France and Spain as more experienced and better balanced teams.
That's a good thing, imo. Doncic can lead and he brought the Mavs to the playoffs because of that rare skill.
Dragic is also the leader type so I think they are not just relying on everything to Luka although they let him run the play most of the time, that's different.

France is strong too. United States will need to bring their best game when they meet at the quarter-finals or it will be France and Slovenia that will most likely battle at the end.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: zanezane on July 27, 2021, 03:44:45 PM
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After Euro 2020 I am not trusting the French again, they were clearly favourites and choked in the end. It came down to historic matches and how the teams performed in the past. In my opinion USA is going to be strong favourite. They won so many Gold medals in the past that I wouldn't count them out this year. I lost quite a lot of money in EM 2020 so instead of just betting on some short term performers, I will go this time with the opposite strategy and bet on the best performers in the last Olympia.
That's why I said that if they didn't change their roster for this one because their roster was really good and was on par with team USA at that time. I haven't bet yet since I am saving my coins for the International.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Yogee on July 27, 2021, 04:04:29 PM
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although they let him run the play most of the time, that's different.
I think this is also the case. It's normal to have a star player in every team and Slovenia doesn't have the same individual talents as the USA. It only makes sense for the coach to let him loose and score when he's probably in the best form of his playing life.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Fredomago on July 27, 2021, 04:13:37 PM
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although they let him run the play most of the time, that's different.
I think this is also the case. It's normal to have a star player in every team and Slovenia doesn't have the same individual talents as the USA. It only makes sense for the coach to let him loose and score when he's probably in the best form of his playing life.

Respect to this young super star, he's teammates see the value of his game and the coach allow them to work with him, he's taking over and it's favoring the team. Who doesn't like to see him playing like a monster, he did it with the Mavs playing against those NBA stars. He's bringing that level with high confidence carrying the flag of his country.

His special talent is shining in the NBA and it's extending now here at the olympics. Exciting to see them playing at the finals though too early for that as there are still games to win before it happened, Good luck!


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: fullhdpixel on July 27, 2021, 06:28:38 PM
Luka made history.
Luka Doncic scores 48 points in Olympic debut, Slovenia crushes Argentina
 (https://www.sportsnet.ca/olympics/article/luka-doncic-scores-48-points-olympic-debut-slovenia-crushes-argentina/)
He has oozing confidence, he is a superstar in the NBA, still a superstar in the Olympics. How good this guy is?

Anyone here thinks that Slovenia has a chance to win the gold medal?
Anyone can say whatever they want about their GOAT candidate, but if this kid keeps this up and doesn't get like a horrible injury or anything like that, plays this way for another 10-12 years then I am pretty sure he will be at the top of most GOAT lists. You may think he hasn't shown anything and he doesn't even have a proper playoff success yet, just some wins, but dude is 22 years old with basically no one around him and he still plays quite well, remember Lebron didn't even make it to playoffs on his first year, that is the difference we are talking about here.

I feel like he is going to slowly take all of his team into finals gradually, sort of like how Giannis did it, we may end up seeing some Giannis vs Luka finals if both teams do end up putting decent players around them, Bucks obviously did but Dallas doesn't have much to offer for any trade so it is a bit harder.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: LTU_btc on July 27, 2021, 07:37:58 PM
4 more games tomorrow. Do or die game between Germany and Nigeria. According to bookies, Nigeria is favorites there.
USA - Iran. Well, I'm already sorry for Iran players. If they will lose by less than 30 points, it will be good achievement already.
Australia - Italy and Czech Republic - France. Favorites is clear here, but IMO Italy and Czech are underrated too much.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: chaser15 on July 27, 2021, 08:51:31 PM
And the discussion now turned into NBA. :D

Anyways Giannis represents Greece right but his nationality by blood is Nigeria?

Does that mean we might see 3 Antetokoumpo's playings for Nigeria in the future?


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Questat on July 27, 2021, 09:18:05 PM
And the discussion now turned into NBA. :D

Anyways Giannis represents Greece right but his nationality by blood is Nigeria?

Does that mean we might see 3 Antetokoumpo's playings for Nigeria in the future?

Well, I can understand that as not everyone of us knows about the roster of a specific team, we will only know some of the players if they play in the NBA and that is usually their star player. This event is a big one, it's also an opportunity for the players to impress the scout so they'll get a chance to play with the NBA, just like what happened with Facundo Campazzo who got an NBA career after the FIBA world IIRC.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on July 27, 2021, 11:53:00 PM
A great match between the USA and Iran, many bet on the USA, as it happened, Iran can give a good surprise like France did, the level of Basketball in the Olympics is very high, anything can happen, the hegemony of the USA has been affected, this game against Iran promises:

https://i.imgur.com/kx2UvWF.png
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Iran, meanwhile, fell to the Czech Republic in its first Olympic game despite a valiant comeback effort in the fourth quarter. Behnam Yakhchali totaled 23 points, four assists and three rebounds in the loss.

It's clear Team USA is far superior to Iran in terms of overall talent, but that was also the case for previous matchups that ended in defeat. If the Americans want to get back on the right track, they must treat every opponent with the proper amount of respect, regardless of what the world rankings say.
Source: https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/usa-iran-basketball-time-channel-olympics-schedule/j31ame2q59331i59h6lfbwb1n (https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/usa-iran-basketball-time-channel-olympics-schedule/j31ame2q59331i59h6lfbwb1n)

I do not have much knowledge of Basketball, but I know that the USA is very strong in this sport, it is a power.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: TimeTeller on July 27, 2021, 11:59:57 PM
4 more games tomorrow. Do or die game between Germany and Nigeria. According to bookies, Nigeria is favorites there.
USA - Iran. Well, I'm already sorry for Iran players. If they will lose by less than 30 points, it will be good achievement already.
Australia - Italy and Czech Republic - France. Favorites is clear here, but IMO Italy and Czech are underrated too much.

I betted on Nigeria here so let's see what will happen.
Not worth betting on USA as the odds is just like 1.01, unless you want to bet on Iran for possible high take home pay, which has a very very good odds.
But I seriously doubt Iran can beat USA.
On the other hand, I betted on Italy here over Australia. So this will be a good day to watch the action inside the court.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: agustina2 on July 28, 2021, 01:39:00 AM
Not worth betting on USA as the odds is just like 1.01,

Of course, you will skip that 1.01 but instead, you will pick the other betting options if you want to ride in the USA.

Total points seem interesting.

Over 165.5 = 1.81
Over 167.5 = 1.99


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: TravelMug on July 28, 2021, 01:44:43 AM
Nigeria vs Germany is live now, good game as it is very close and I'm not seeing anyone leading as much as 5 points in this game.

And it's a high scoring ball game, I thought this could go not over 165 points but it seems that I'm going to lost my bet. Still in the 2nd quarter score currently 50-47 Nigeria.

Edit: half-time now 50-50.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Fredomago on July 28, 2021, 09:02:28 AM
Nigeria vs Germany is live now, good game as it is very close and I'm not seeing anyone leading as much as 5 points in this game.

And it's a high scoring ball game, I thought this could go not over 165 points but it seems that I'm going to lost my bet. Still in the 2nd quarter score currently 50-47 Nigeria.

Edit: half-time now 50-50.

Germany escape and win the game with very close score 97-92, I didn't watch the game but by looking from the scoring quarter per quarter seems that germany excel in the last quarter the first 3 ends up tied.

Looking now with Italy and Aussie, where also have a close match 45-44 in favor of Italy, still a long way to go since there still 2 more quarters before this match ends.

Aussie still the favorite with ML @ 1.55 and -3.5 @ 1.85.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: ingiltere on July 28, 2021, 11:39:46 AM
I couldn't watch USA - Iran game because it was too early but there were no surprises here. USA won with 54 points difference. If I could make a bet I'd choose at least 30 points margin for USA win.
Now we will watch Czechia and France game, while everybody expect France to win comfortably I wonder what would be the handicap to make bets. By the looks of odds 9 points difference is average expectation, though I expect France to lead at least by 10 points.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Botnake on July 28, 2021, 11:50:51 AM
I couldn't watch USA - Iran game because it was too early but there were no surprises here. USA won with 54 points difference. If I could make a bet I'd choose at least 30 points margin for USA win.
Now we will watch Czechia and France game, while everybody expect France to win comfortably I wonder what would be the handicap to make bets. By the looks of odds 9 points difference is average expectation, though I expect France to lead at least by 10 points.

I guess the spread was below 50, so it's an easy win if you could have put a bet on the USA to win, they loss against France, so it's expected that they'll bounce back strong, sad for me too, I have not thought of betting on the USA, that game was lost in my mind.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Oasisman on July 28, 2021, 12:22:45 PM
Nigeria vs Germany is live now, good game as it is very close and I'm not seeing anyone leading as much as 5 points in this game.

And it's a high scoring ball game, I thought this could go not over 165 points but it seems that I'm going to lost my bet. Still in the 2nd quarter score currently 50-47 Nigeria.

Edit: half-time now 50-50.

The game went over 165 points and it's one of the most exciting games in the Olympics.
Though Nigeria went short on this one, but Jordan Nwora who just won a ring in the NBA with the Milwaukee Bucks has displayed amazing performance with 33 points of 65% fg percentage. I honestly don't know he's a member of the Bucks until I've search his basketball background.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Kelvinid on July 28, 2021, 03:53:17 PM
Nigeria vs Germany is live now, good game as it is very close and I'm not seeing anyone leading as much as 5 points in this game.

And it's a high scoring ball game, I thought this could go not over 165 points but it seems that I'm going to lost my bet. Still in the 2nd quarter score currently 50-47 Nigeria.

Edit: half-time now 50-50.

The game went over 165 points and it's one of the most exciting games in the Olympics.
Though Nigeria went short on this one, but Jordan Nwora who just won a ring in the NBA with the Milwaukee Bucks has displayed amazing performance with 33 points of 65% fg percentage. I honestly don't know he's a member of the Bucks until I've search his basketball background.


Same here, I don't even recognize his name, with that points, I think if he is only given enough minutes and exposure by the Bucks, he could be a big asset to the team.  His average on the Bucks is only 5.7 points, with very limited minutes. He is just 22 years old, still more room for improvement.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/nworajo01.html


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: ChiBitCTy on July 28, 2021, 04:04:54 PM
Just 2 games on Monday, but one is definitely worth to watch - Argentina - Slovenia. 2019 World Cup runners-up vs Euro 2017 winners. One of the best European players Doncic vs 41 year old grandpa Luis Scola who is still good at such age.

Still have the chance if I get it right, if they can win all the games that left for them which is very possible after losing this one.
Their next opponent is Iran - weakest team in whole tournament without any doubts. So, I expect big win. Then, Czech Republic. Good team which can give fight, but IMO they aren't capable to beat USA.

Sucks seeing them lose but it's not shocking.  There are only two super stars on the team as most US super stars decided not to play this time around ( Lebron, Leonard, Curry, Thompson, George, Irving, Davis, Zion, Westbrook, Paul, Harden) and I'm probably forgetting one or two others.  So while it was certainly an impressive win, they were playing a USA "B-Team".  Obviously if the US had all it's stars playing they would destroy everyone like they normally do with ease.  Still hope for Gold though of course.
It's excuses. Almost in every major tournament USA have missing some superstars, buti even with B-Team they were destroying all their opponents by 30 points at least. But times had changed. With all superstars probably they would win gold, but I doubt that they would have easy life and would destroy Nigeria by 80 points liker they did in London Olympics.


What are you even taking about? What you wrote really doesn’t make any sense. It’s not excuses, it’s the truth. The vast majority of the United States best players aren’t playing, that’s not an excuse, it’s a fact. It seems to me that you don’t know the players or situation very well. And yes, some American “B-Teams” will and have blown out opponents by 30 pts or more, but what does that have to do with anything we are talking about here ?  ???


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: ChiBitCTy on July 28, 2021, 04:12:48 PM
Luka made history.
Luka Doncic scores 48 points in Olympic debut, Slovenia crushes Argentina
 (https://www.sportsnet.ca/olympics/article/luka-doncic-scores-48-points-olympic-debut-slovenia-crushes-argentina/)
He has oozing confidence, he is a superstar in the NBA, still a superstar in the Olympics. How good this guy is?

Anyone here thinks that Slovenia has a chance to win the gold medal?
Anyone can say whatever they want about their GOAT candidate, but if this kid keeps this up and doesn't get like a horrible injury or anything like that, plays this way for another 10-12 years then I am pretty sure he will be at the top of most GOAT lists. You may think he hasn't shown anything and he doesn't even have a proper playoff success yet, just some wins, but dude is 22 years old with basically no one around him and he still plays quite well, remember Lebron didn't even make it to playoffs on his first year, that is the difference we are talking about here.

I feel like he is going to slowly take all of his team into finals gradually, sort of like how Giannis did it, we may end up seeing some Giannis vs Luka finals if both teams do end up putting decent players around them, Bucks obviously did but Dallas doesn't have much to offer for any trade so it is a bit harder.

Lol this is highly doubtful. Now don’t get me wrong, Luka is a phenomenal player and his upside is immense but it is clear that he simply doesn’t have the build or athleticism to become the greatest player of all time. He’s not even the best player in the NBA right now. He is no michael jordan or Lebron James. Great player but the next goat, no chance. I do think it is possible that he becomes the best player in the NBA at some point, I just can't see him every becoming the greatest of all time.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Pamadar on July 28, 2021, 04:34:47 PM

Same here, I don't even recognize his name, with that points, I think if he is only given enough minutes and exposure by the Bucks, he could be a big asset to the team.  His average on the Bucks is only 5.7 points, with very limited minutes. He is just 22 years old, still more room for improvement.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/nworajo01.html

Providing that stats with very limited minutes, meaning to say that he's really a scorer.

And with how he played during this olympic games, he might be recognized by other teams, though he's already in a good spot since Bucks just won the title, and if he's still in contract that's really a good privilege for him. Going back to the topic, Nigeria comes out short they try to hold but Germany play well in the last quarter.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Harkorede on July 28, 2021, 05:42:26 PM
Nigeria vs Germany is live now, good game as it is very close and I'm not seeing anyone leading as much as 5 points in this game.

And it's a high scoring ball game, I thought this could go not over 165 points but it seems that I'm going to lost my bet. Still in the 2nd quarter score currently 50-47 Nigeria.

Edit: half-time now 50-50.

The game went over 165 points and it's one of the most exciting games in the Olympics.
Though Nigeria went short on this one, but Jordan Nwora who just won a ring in the NBA with the Milwaukee Bucks has displayed amazing performance with 33 points of 65% fg percentage. I honestly don't know he's a member of the Bucks until I've search his basketball background.


Same here, I don't even recognize his name, with that points, I think if he is only given enough minutes and exposure by the Bucks, he could be a big asset to the team.  His average on the Bucks is only 5.7 points, with very limited minutes. He is just 22 years old, still more room for improvement.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/nworajo01.html

During the pre competition games the signs were really promising for the Nigerian team after consecutive wins against USA and Argentina, but this tournament performance has been subpar, and this was their closest game and probably their best shot at stealing a win, but there's still a win big or bust affair in the last game against Italy.

I couldn't watch USA - Iran game because it was too early but there were no surprises here. USA won with 54 points difference. If I could make a bet I'd choose at least 30 points margin for USA win.
Now we will watch Czechia and France game, while everybody expect France to win comfortably I wonder what would be the handicap to make bets. By the looks of odds 9 points difference is average expectation, though I expect France to lead at least by 10 points.

I guess the spread was below 50, so it's an easy win if you could have put a bet on the USA to win, they loss against France, so it's expected that they'll bounce back strong, sad for me too, I have not thought of betting on the USA, that game was lost in my mind.

The team USA have finally put on the A game mode, but I don't think it's still all a perfect game until they get tested by better sides. The win should already guarantee them a place in the next round, I guess.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: TheGreatPython on July 28, 2021, 08:13:01 PM
Honestly when USA is winning like this, that should be also gaining some momentum for them as well. They lost to France which is a shameful display and they are "most probably" going to be second in the group as well, I doubt that France would lose either to czechs or Iran for that matter, but let's assume that even if they end up somehow being the first, they are going to face a lot better opponents in the upcoming matches. They really need to get their work in order and win the last game so that it would not be a shame for them.

With all of that said, I still think that Slovenia has a big shot at this title, I know everyone thinks USA will win but after such a horrible display against France and seeing how Luka can bring so much to the table, I feel like as long as Luka can will his team to wins, there is still a "chance", not saying it will happen, but it is at least possible.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: dwyane36 on July 28, 2021, 09:07:11 PM
The team USA have finally put on the A game mode, but I don't think it's still all a perfect game until they get tested by better sides. The win should already guarantee them a place in the next round, I guess.
Of course, it's great that the USA won by 54 points, but they were playing against the weakest team in this tournament. By the way, the teams in first and second place of each group and the two best teams in 3rd place will qualify for the next round. So it looks like the USA guaranteed a place in the next phase.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: morvillz7z on July 28, 2021, 09:56:47 PM
By the way, the teams in first and second place of each group and the two best teams in 3rd place will qualify for the next round.

I'd like to expand on that because FIBA format differs slightly from what most people expect to see in the next round.

So, based on their records and points difference, those eight teams (first two in each group and two best third teams) will be split into 2 groups, "seeded" and "unseeded", and there will be a draw to decide the matchups. France and Australia with two wins out of two matches and team USA (with that huge win over Iran) are almost certain locks for the seeded group, the fourth team in that seeded group will be either Spain or Slovenia who play against each other in the final round of Group C. There will be at least one very good team (contender) in that unseeded group.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Joca97 on July 28, 2021, 10:00:04 PM
The team USA have finally put on the A game mode, but I don't think it's still all a perfect game until they get tested by better sides. The win should already guarantee them a place in the next round, I guess.
Of course, it's great that the USA won by 54 points, but they were playing against the weakest team in this tournament. By the way, the teams in first and second place of each group and the two best teams in 3rd place will qualify for the next round. So it looks like the USA guaranteed a place in the next phase.


Totally unexpected for USA to even lose to France in the first match. But this was expected for them to crush Iran. They are by far the worst team on the olympic games. But USA will have to play much much better to even get a medal on this olymipic games


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: sunsilk on July 28, 2021, 10:30:58 PM
Anyone here thinks that Slovenia has a chance to win the gold medal?
To answer your question... I'll be honest, being champions I don't know, but I strongly believe that they have a chance of getting a medal (probably bronze).
Slovenia is an excellent team, Luka Dondic carried the team on his back against Argentina (48 points, 6-14 - 3 points), let's see if Luka will continue with that same performance! I will follow the next games.
Maybe.

But the chance is more with the usual teams like USA. There's a tiny chance that they may have it but we'll get to see that until the final round is set.

Right now, they're doing good at their group but we'll still about to see which team is going to be at the final.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Johnyz on July 28, 2021, 10:51:39 PM
The team USA have finally put on the A game mode, but I don't think it's still all a perfect game until they get tested by better sides. The win should already guarantee them a place in the next round, I guess.
Of course, it's great that the USA won by 54 points, but they were playing against the weakest team in this tournament. By the way, the teams in first and second place of each group and the two best teams in 3rd place will qualify for the next round. So it looks like the USA guaranteed a place in the next phase.


Totally unexpected for USA to even lose to France in the first match. But this was expected for them to crush Iran. They are by far the worst team on the olympic games. But USA will have to play much much better to even get a medal on this olymipic games
That’s right they have to do their best on their next games to at least get a medal though there are still chance for them to get the gold again, but if they didn’t improve better team will claim the title. USA is one of the best in the league, they have to prove it at all cost and get the gold.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: wheelz1200 on July 28, 2021, 11:30:24 PM
Anyone here thinks that Slovenia has a chance to win the gold medal?
To answer your question... I'll be honest, being champions I don't know, but I strongly believe that they have a chance of getting a medal (probably bronze).
Slovenia is an excellent team, Luka Dondic carried the team on his back against Argentina (48 points, 6-14 - 3 points), let's see if Luka will continue with that same performance! I will follow the next games.


Ypu can bet high power teams are going to throw double and triple teams at Luka.  He will get his points against teams like the US but his teammates are going to have to seriously step up.  Can't see them winning the whole thing just on Lukas back but hey who knows right.  There have been bigger upsets at the olympics.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: goinmerry on July 29, 2021, 12:45:56 AM
With all of that said, I still think that Slovenia has a big shot at this title, I know everyone thinks USA will win but after such a horrible display against France and seeing how Luka can bring so much to the table, I feel like as long as Luka can will his team to wins, there is still a "chance", not saying it will happen, but it is at least possible.

If Luka's teammate will step up, there's a possibility that they can beat the USA even by 50/50.

Team USA already knows how Luka played, obviously because of lots of meetings in the NBA, and they already have tactics to contain him if ever they will face each other.

That's the time now for Luka's teammates to adjust. But before thinking that possible scenario, let's see who wins first on their respective stages.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: danherbias07 on July 29, 2021, 01:39:59 AM
My first ever win betting in an Olympics game.
https://i.ibb.co/YtLk2st/germany.png (https://imgbb.com/)
Now let's see if Japan could at least prevent it to become a blowout game against Slovenia. I am betting for them at +18.5.
Spain won against Japan last time with just 11 point lead. I hope the performance will be the same or better. Betting against Luka may not be wise but that's +18.5 which is a good deal.  ;D
https://i.ibb.co/R4Gm1pq/japan.png (https://imgbb.com/)
Lose - ergh!


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Questat on July 29, 2021, 10:19:13 AM
Now let's see if Japan could at least prevent it to become a blowout game against Slovenia. I am betting for them at +18.5.
Spain won against Japan last time with just 11 point lead. I hope the performance will be the same or better. Betting against Luka may not be wise but that's +18.5 which is a good deal.  ;D
https://i.ibb.co/R4Gm1pq/japan.png (https://imgbb.com/)
Lose - ergh!

ctto
https://i.imgur.com/jD0yKJb.jpg

It was a blowout win, sorry man, just bounce back next time.

Slovenia has proven that they are too much against Japan, and Luka still had another great game in this run.

Maybe it's not a good idea to bet against Slovenia, Luka is too hard to handle.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: casperBGD on July 29, 2021, 10:55:56 AM
~snip

Maybe it's not a good idea to bet against Slovenia, Luka is too hard to handle.

it depends on the match, this was a shooting night for Slovenia, and where there are 116 points, it is easy to surpass +18.5 difference
win was not in a question for a moment

interesting development in the group, since one team will probably drop out, Spain or Argentine, and all need big difference to Japan, to be within top2 third placed teams, for next round placement, in case all third placed teams have two wins


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on July 29, 2021, 11:32:58 AM
Now let's see if Japan could at least prevent it to become a blowout game against Slovenia. I am betting for them at +18.5.
Spain won against Japan last time with just 11 point lead. I hope the performance will be the same or better. Betting against Luka may not be wise but that's +18.5 which is a good deal.  ;D
https://i.ibb.co/R4Gm1pq/japan.png (https://imgbb.com/)
Lose - ergh!

ctto
[..]

It was a blowout win, sorry man, just bounce back next time.

Slovenia has proven that they are too much against Japan, and Luka still had another great game in this run.

Maybe it's not a good idea to bet against Slovenia, Luka is too hard to handle.

Yep, even the host country, can't take the heat out of Luka, I also thought that it will be a good game and not a blow out one. But Luka, has torch team and if I have to bet, I will also tail @danherbias07  because after all it is their home court.

Unfortunately, Luka's experience is really showing in this Olympics, I mean he has played a great game in the playoffs and still carrying in this Olympics.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: freedomgo on July 29, 2021, 11:50:53 AM
Now let's see if Japan could at least prevent it to become a blowout game against Slovenia. I am betting for them at +18.5.
Spain won against Japan last time with just 11 point lead. I hope the performance will be the same or better. Betting against Luka may not be wise but that's +18.5 which is a good deal.  ;D
https://i.ibb.co/R4Gm1pq/japan.png (https://imgbb.com/)
Lose - ergh!

ctto
[..]

It was a blowout win, sorry man, just bounce back next time.

Slovenia has proven that they are too much against Japan, and Luka still had another great game in this run.

Maybe it's not a good idea to bet against Slovenia, Luka is too hard to handle.

Yep, even the host country, can't take the heat out of Luka, I also thought that it will be a good game and not a blow out one. But Luka, has torch team and if I have to bet, I will also tail @danherbias07  because after all it is their home court.

Unfortunately, Luka's experience is really showing in this Olympics, I mean he has played a great game in the playoffs and still carrying in this Olympics.

Does anyone know the current ranking? I mean from the top 1 favorites down to the lowest. I read some article and it states that Australia is the top favorites to win the gold, and USA is just in the top 3, how accurate it is you think?

https://www.fiba.basketball/olympics/men/2020/news/men-s-olympic-basketball-power-rankings-volume-1


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: yazher on July 29, 2021, 12:14:11 PM
Looks like the other national teams have more impact than the current USA team. Just look how Luka making names in this tournament where they dominated every opponent that comes on their way. Another good basketball play we are seeing here is if we are just focusing on one team. A lot of greatness especially for the recent wins of Slovenia, Luka Magic still continues.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Hypnosis00 on July 29, 2021, 12:43:22 PM
Looks like the other national teams have more impact than the current USA team. Just look how Luka making names in this tournament where they dominated every opponent that comes on their way. Another good basketball play we are seeing here is if we are just focusing on one team. A lot of greatness especially for the recent wins of Slovenia, Luka Magic still continues.

Luka's sensation is still felt, lol.. The USA now is not anymore a dream team, they are not composed of the best players in the NBA so other national teams has a big chance of beating them. They lose against France and we know France is not even the top favorite to win, so will see with their upcoming games.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: bisdak40 on July 29, 2021, 12:50:26 PM
Looks like the other national teams have more impact than the current USA team. Just look how Luka making names in this tournament where they dominated every opponent that comes on their way. Another good basketball play we are seeing here is if we are just focusing on one team. A lot of greatness especially for the recent wins of Slovenia, Luka Magic still continues.

Luka's sensation is still felt, lol.. The USA now is not anymore a dream team, they are not composed of the best players in the NBA so other national teams has a big chance of beating them. They lose against France and we know France is not even the top favorite to win, so will see with their upcoming games.

IMO, Team USA is still the best but only other teams have caught up with them. Luka is good, no question about that but he can't do it alone and carry his team into the Finals sooner or later they will lose to a more complete team. This achievement of Luka is good enough for him to become the hero of his country when he comes home.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: dwyane36 on July 29, 2021, 01:14:34 PM
If Luka's teammate will step up, there's a possibility that they can beat the USA even by 50/50.

Team USA already knows how Luka played, obviously because of lots of meetings in the NBA, and they already have tactics to contain him if ever they will face each other.

That's the time now for Luka's teammates to adjust. But before thinking that possible scenario, let's see who wins first on their respective stages.
Yeah, Doncic shows great performance at these Olympic games, and I would like to see Slovenia against the USA in the final match of this tournament. However, it's worth noting that the USA was almost always the favorite at the Olympic Games, and last time they did not win gold medals only in 2004.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Reid on July 29, 2021, 04:00:28 PM
This thread just caught a virus from Luka's magical smile. Ain't there anything else?
How about Luis Scola with his silvered-haired grandpa look making the 4th rank of all-time total leading scorer in the Olympics Men's Basketball with 548 points
Above him at 3rd place is Pau Gasol (Spain active) with 623 points. 2nd is Andrew Gaze (Australia) 789 and Oscar Schmidt (Brazil) at the top 1093 points.



Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: add1ct3dd on July 29, 2021, 06:51:04 PM
The thing about Luka has always been about how he really enjoys it, like dude is having fun out there and that shows which means that yes he is a superstar but I think the only people I can remember really enjoying being a superstar could be Giannis or maybe Wade.

We usually do not see people who are like always smiling and all, we see the "killer mindset" type of players, MJ wasn't laughing when he played, he wanted to eat your heart, Kobe always worked before you and after you, Lebron spent millions on his body and always cried like a baby, I can continue with this but "happy"? We rarely see happy players on the court, yeah sure they are happy outside obviously, but while playing?

This is the thing about Luka, he could be the best player who enjoyed the game most, I do not think that I have seen anyone in history of this sport that played better than him while enjoying it more than him both at the same time.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: LTU_btc on July 29, 2021, 08:25:36 PM
This thread just caught a virus from Luka's magical smile. Ain't there anything else?
How about Luis Scola with his silvered-haired grandpa look making the 4th rank of all-time total leading scorer in the Olympics Men's Basketball with 548 points
Above him at 3rd place is Pau Gasol (Spain active) with 623 points. 2nd is Andrew Gaze (Australia) 789 and Oscar Schmidt (Brazil) at the top 1093 points.


I really enjoyed watching Spain - Argentina game, 41 old grandpas Gasol and Scola playing at highest level. The Last Dance.
And how good Ricky Rubio is, but because of Doncic, nobody talks about him. I remember hevwas bad at 3-pointers, but how he improved it in recent years. 5 from 6 3pt shots - performance of elite shooter.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: coinlocket$ on July 29, 2021, 11:08:14 PM
Tomorrow team USA will play again and to be honest it is the only team besides Italy I care about.
Still shocked at how they lost their 1st game, now they need to win the last game or they will be out it is most unlikely but who knows.

Still mad at them since we can't see Lebron >:(

I think he never played in the games while some other athletes do everything they can to be there.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Botnake on July 30, 2021, 01:06:47 AM
Tomorrow team USA will play again and to be honest it is the only team besides Italy I care about.
Still shocked at how they lost their 1st game, now they need to win the last game or they will be out it is most unlikely but who knows.

Still mad at them since we can't see Lebron >:(

I think he never played in the games while some other athletes do everything they can to be there.

Lebron already did his part, he already brings gold to the country, and he is not getting any younger so the NBA is just giving their young players who are also capable and still hungry at the same time. I'm sure USA will win in their next game.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: danherbias07 on July 30, 2021, 05:14:23 AM
It was a blowout win, sorry man, just bounce back next time.

Slovenia has proven that they are too much against Japan, and Luka still had another great game in this run.

Maybe it's not a good idea to bet against Slovenia, Luka is too hard to handle.
Yeah, that was a sad choice.  :D I thought it really looked good at +18.5 but damn Luka just keeps on getting better and better.
I am going underdog again with Nigeria ML versus Italy for tomorrow.
They played well against the Germans in a close game. While the Germans also lose against Italy but just at 4th quarter. All are close games so I think there's still a chance for Nigeria to win it. Fingers crossed. They are also hungry to obtain at least 1 win.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: harizen on July 30, 2021, 05:49:14 AM
The USA now is not anymore a dream team, they are not composed of the best players in the NBA so other national teams has a big chance of beating them. They lose against France and we know France is not even the top favorite to win, so will see with their upcoming games.

They are still composed of the best players in the NBA. That's the issue as always as because it's "TEAM USA" they are expected to always win.

It's not with the USA itself but other countries are improving. Can we just give credit to those countries that beat the USA (2 in the exhibition, 1 in the preliminary) instead of saying the current US team is not the same as before why they lose? That was discrediting the effort of other countries.

Still mad at them since we can't see Lebron >:(

Mate, you have to understand that he's graduate from that although he can still play. At 36 years of age, he's now more of keeping his body to stay healthy to keep up with the NBA regular season. I understand they should play for the country and it's a call of duty but the NBA has a wide variety of players that are always ready to play for them.

I'd rather see players in their prime rather than hire the service of a post-prime player and now reaching the veteran level.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: gagux123 on July 30, 2021, 06:14:29 AM
I was thinking to myself...

What do you think about the level of the teams in these Olympics? I realize at these olympics in Japan, the teams are very balanced.
Do you believe the USA team level dropped a lot? Or was it the level of the other teams that increased?

By the way, did Luka receive any punishment for participating in a clandestine party? Or nothing happened?


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: robelneo on July 30, 2021, 08:20:02 AM


What do you think about the level of the teams in these Olympics? I realize at these olympics in Japan, the teams are very balanced.
Do you believe the USA team level dropped a lot? Or was it the level of the other teams that increased?



They just beat Iran, and they showed power by beating them with a wide margin but this team already have three losses including the exhibition games, we will only know this if they face another strong team again like the Czech Republic, Spain, or Slovenia, they have the momentum now they are now blending well but well only know if they can handle the pressure against a strong team from other groups.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Botnake on July 30, 2021, 09:20:08 AM


What do you think about the level of the teams in these Olympics? I realize at these olympics in Japan, the teams are very balanced.
Do you believe the USA team level dropped a lot? Or was it the level of the other teams that increased?



They just beat Iran, and they showed power by beating them with a wide margin but this team already have three losses including the exhibition games, we will only know this if they face another strong team again like the Czech Republic, Spain, or Slovenia, they have the momentum now they are now blending well but well only know if they can handle the pressure against a strong team from other groups.

Team USA although is not perfect in this tournament, they are still the favorite to win the gold, they have to win the succeeding games and thus far, they showed how good they are and probably they already learned from their big mistake in the first game.

next game will be on July 31, 2021
https://www.usab.com/mens/national-team/schedule.aspx

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July 31, 8:00 am EDT
USA Men vs TBD (Saitama, Japan)


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on July 30, 2021, 10:41:22 AM


What do you think about the level of the teams in these Olympics? I realize at these olympics in Japan, the teams are very balanced.
Do you believe the USA team level dropped a lot? Or was it the level of the other teams that increased?



They just beat Iran, and they showed power by beating them with a wide margin but this team already have three losses including the exhibition games, we will only know this if they face another strong team again like the Czech Republic, Spain, or Slovenia, they have the momentum now they are now blending well but well only know if they can handle the pressure against a strong team from other groups.

Yes, the biggest test for US is to face a good team with NBA players. Not discounting Iran, but they are only good in the Asian region, so it's not a good yardstick to say how good team USA because they have lost already. In their group is Czech Republic, so this is a good test for team in the next game to see if they really blend already. And this is a make or break for US, they don't have the luxury to lose this one.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Questat on July 30, 2021, 12:50:22 PM


What do you think about the level of the teams in these Olympics? I realize at these olympics in Japan, the teams are very balanced.
Do you believe the USA team level dropped a lot? Or was it the level of the other teams that increased?



They just beat Iran, and they showed power by beating them with a wide margin but this team already have three losses including the exhibition games, we will only know this if they face another strong team again like the Czech Republic, Spain, or Slovenia, they have the momentum now they are now blending well but well only know if they can handle the pressure against a strong team from other groups.

Yes, the biggest test for US is to face a good team with NBA players. Not discounting Iran, but they are only good in the Asian region, so it's not a good yardstick to say how good team USA because they have lost already. In their group is Czech Republic, so this is a good test for team in the next game to see if they really blend already. And this is a make or break for US, they don't have the luxury to lose this one.

Well, USA will not give up their goal to win the gold easily, they have been dominating so the current roster will have a bad reputation if they lose. According to the betting odds, it looks like it's another easy win by the USA.

The current odds are;

ML - USA 1.01  / Czech Republic 20.00
Point spread is -22.5 for the USA.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: carlisle1 on July 30, 2021, 01:08:35 PM


Yes, the biggest test for US is to face a good team with NBA players. Not discounting Iran, but they are only good in the Asian region, so it's not a good yardstick to say how good team USA because they have lost already. In their group is Czech Republic, so this is a good test for team in the next game to see if they really blend already. And this is a make or break for US, they don't have the luxury to lose this one.

They need to blend and realize that carrying each other inside the court is very important stop passing

the ball and aggressively attack the basket, that loss with France shown weakness with the team efforts.

In fairness to them after that loss, beating Iran with very high deficits, good enough to bring the winning streak back to their system.


 


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Hypnosis00 on July 30, 2021, 01:35:37 PM
The USA now is not anymore a dream team, they are not composed of the best players in the NBA so other national teams has a big chance of beating them. They lose against France and we know France is not even the top favorite to win, so will see with their upcoming games.

They are still composed of the best players in the NBA. That's the issue as always as because it's "TEAM USA" they are expected to always win.

It's not with the USA itself but other countries are improving. Can we just give credit to those countries that beat the USA (2 in the exhibition, 1 in the preliminary) instead of saying the current US team is not the same as before why they lose? That was discrediting the effort of other countries.


Understand that, but sorry I just have to be biased as I really believe that the old lineup is better than the current. Of course, we give credit to those who can beat the team USA, but we cannot hide our opinion regarding the current roster. I also have the same feeling when a good team loses in the NBA playoffs, like, the Lakers loss because Davis was injured.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: SquallLeonhart on July 30, 2021, 08:08:52 PM
They are still composed of the best players in the NBA. That's the issue as always as because it's "TEAM USA" they are expected to always win.

It's not with the USA itself but other countries are improving. Can we just give credit to those countries that beat the USA (2 in the exhibition, 1 in the preliminary) instead of saying the current US team is not the same as before why they lose? That was discrediting the effort of other countries.
Understand that, but sorry I just have to be biased as I really believe that the old lineup is better than the current. Of course, we give credit to those who can beat the team USA, but we cannot hide our opinion regarding the current roster. I also have the same feeling when a good team loses in the NBA playoffs, like, the Lakers loss because Davis was injured.
You are definitely right, this team is not "the best team" from NBA, I mean it is not "let's get every great player on the team" type of situation. Where is curry? Where is lebron? Where is AD? Where is Harden? Where is Kawhi? Where is Butler? Where is Irving? I am not saying that you can get all of them, maybe you like one better than the other, and there could be some other names as well.

However in a roster where you do not even have Lebron and Curry, just those two additions to this team would have turned this team into an insanity, add in a few more and you got yourself a team that nobody can even imagine to stop.

Now they have Durant and that is great and cool, but Durant lost to Giannis in NBA itself, which means all by himself Durant means nothing, Dame have failed to move above first round for nearly a decade man, so I really think that this wasn't the "best NBA players" at all, there are few I would keep, but I would probably change like 8 players with better ones if given the option.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Joca97 on July 30, 2021, 08:17:45 PM
The USA now is not anymore a dream team, they are not composed of the best players in the NBA so other national teams has a big chance of beating them. They lose against France and we know France is not even the top favorite to win, so will see with their upcoming games.

They are still composed of the best players in the NBA. That's the issue as always as because it's "TEAM USA" they are expected to always win.

It's not with the USA itself but other countries are improving. Can we just give credit to those countries that beat the USA (2 in the exhibition, 1 in the preliminary) instead of saying the current US team is not the same as before why they lose? That was discrediting the effort of other countries.


Understand that, but sorry I just have to be biased as I really believe that the old lineup is better than the current. Of course, we give credit to those who can beat the team USA, but we cannot hide our opinion regarding the current roster. I also have the same feeling when a good team loses in the NBA playoffs, like, the Lakers loss because Davis was injured.

The USA is currently really far away from being a dream team like they once were. A lot of huge players didnt come to the olympics and they are left with superstars from weaker NBA teams i see a lot of other countries making a bigger impact for the best medals


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: goinmerry on July 30, 2021, 09:47:58 PM

Iran vs France later.

Iran is clear the underdog here. I placed a fun bet for them as they are eager to get a win before being eliminated.

France already secures a slot next round so they don't need to force a win against Iran. It's expected that they will sideline or minimize the playing time of their stars to keep them healthy the next round. A "slight advantage" for Iran as France bench players are also good.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: boltz on July 30, 2021, 11:11:12 PM

Iran vs France later.

Iran is clear the underdog here. I placed a fun bet for them as they are eager to get a win before being eliminated.

France already secures a slot next round so they don't need to force a win against Iran. It's expected that they will sideline or minimize the playing time of their stars to keep them healthy the next round. A "slight advantage" for Iran as France bench players are also good.

Good underdog here as Iran had nothing to lose and most likely will go all in. On the other side , France has the necessary points as far as I know so they won't go hard tonight.

I only saw a couple of games and I must say that for me , Slovania looks the team who could snatch the gold from USA Team because Doncic kinda looks like an Gold Medal Olympic Athlete right ? and most certain he plays like one.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: gagux123 on July 31, 2021, 08:13:55 AM
They just beat Iran, and they showed power by beating them with a wide margin but this team already have three losses including the exhibition games, we will only know this if they face another strong team again like the Czech Republic, Spain, or Slovenia, they have the momentum now they are now blending well but well only know if they can handle the pressure against a strong team from other groups.
This is true, we need to see how the US will perform against strong opponents.
Only time will be able to give us the answer.

The US players in these Olympics are very weak compared to previous teams. But even so, the USA are the gold medal favorites, but for that happen, the team needs to play really well!!

Ohhh, I almost forgot, another important factor that makes the difference is the coach, there is no coach better than Gregg Popovich, I think he is the best option today!


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: danherbias07 on July 31, 2021, 01:36:33 PM
Another loss for me. Nigeria cannot handle the strength of Italy. They are 0-3 in Group B. USA hammering Czech Republic now with 24 point deficit and the game is not over yet. They need this win to qualify and I think they will. Tomorrow, Spain versus Slovenia. This is going to be a fun game to watch live.
Who will you bet for? The Gasol brothers or to the new kid in town Luka?  ;D I'll bet for the new kid of Slovenia with -3.5. @2.00
Update: USA won, 35 point lead against Czech Republic.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Harkorede on July 31, 2021, 02:10:28 PM
Another loss for me. Nigeria cannot handle the strength of Italy. They are 0-3 in Group B. USA hammering Czech Republic now with 24 point deficit and the game is not over yet. They need this win to qualify and I think they will. Tomorrow, Spain versus Slovenia. This is going to be a fun game to watch live.
Who will you bet for? The Gasol brothers or to the new kid in town Luka?  ;D I'll bet for the new kid of Slovenia with -3.5. @2.00
Update: USA won, 35 point lead against Czech Republic.

Quite unfortunate for the Nigerian team, they had another decent lead going into the forth quarter but they blew it all in the Quarter, but I think the Olympic games still happened to be a good exposure for the team.

Czech Republic still have a decent chance to qualify for the next round, they're currently the 2nd in best 3rd-placed team, so it's all the dependent on the result between Argentina vs Japan.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: freedomgo on July 31, 2021, 02:31:55 PM

Iran vs France later.

Iran is clear the underdog here. I placed a fun bet for them as they are eager to get a win before being eliminated.

France already secures a slot next round so they don't need to force a win against Iran. It's expected that they will sideline or minimize the playing time of their stars to keep them healthy the next round. A "slight advantage" for Iran as France bench players are also good.

Good underdog here as Iran had nothing to lose and most likely will go all in. On the other side , France has the necessary points as far as I know so they won't go hard tonight.

I only saw a couple of games and I must say that for me , Slovania looks the team who could snatch the gold from USA Team because Doncic kinda looks like an Gold Medal Olympic Athlete right ? and most certain he plays like one.

So what happens here?

I just saw the scoreboard, the game is over and France won by 17 points,  the final score was 79-62.

What's the point spread of this game?
I'm guessing France still covers the spread here.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: ChiBitCTy on July 31, 2021, 02:56:36 PM
Another nice game from the United States this morning.  I sure wish these games were a little later in the day being that it was on in the early morning here in the United States, but still it was a victory nonetheless and I'll take it.  It's pretty clear that Kevin Durant is the most dominant player in the Olympics right now and I'm excited to see where he heads from this point on.  I think he's as motivated as he's ever been being that he is THE GUY on the United States roster and he wants that glory in the spotlight as he's felt under appreciated his entire career.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on July 31, 2021, 02:57:34 PM

Iran vs France later.

Iran is clear the underdog here. I placed a fun bet for them as they are eager to get a win before being eliminated.

France already secures a slot next round so they don't need to force a win against Iran. It's expected that they will sideline or minimize the playing time of their stars to keep them healthy the next round. A "slight advantage" for Iran as France bench players are also good.

Good underdog here as Iran had nothing to lose and most likely will go all in. On the other side , France has the necessary points as far as I know so they won't go hard tonight.

I only saw a couple of games and I must say that for me , Slovania looks the team who could snatch the gold from USA Team because Doncic kinda looks like an Gold Medal Olympic Athlete right ? and most certain he plays like one.

So what happens here?

I just saw the scoreboard, the game is over and France won by 17 points,  the final score was 79-62.

What's the point spread of this game?
I'm guessing France still covers the spread here.

No, the initial lines open as France -27.5, how do I know? because I bet on it and obviously I lost. I thought that France can cover it because the US just blow Iran by more than 30 points if I'm not mistaken.

And with that France win, they still lead their group, but with US winning against the Czech republic, both teams now advances to the quarterfinals. Australia and Italy also advance.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Pamadar on July 31, 2021, 03:59:57 PM

No, the initial lines open as France -27.5, how do I know? because I bet on it and obviously I lost. I thought that France can cover it because the US just blow Iran by more than 30 points if I'm not mistaken.

And with that France win, they still lead their group, but with US winning against the Czech republic, both teams now advances to the quarterfinals. Australia and Italy also advance.

The campaign for Gold medal still alive for team US after losing their first game,.

Moving to quarter finals and for sure they are now well prepared as looking for their last two games we seen good ball movement and

the aggressiveness to take the basket, and with that good shooting performance this team is now  blending well. Good enough to take that chance winning the gold medals.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: LTU_btc on July 31, 2021, 04:21:39 PM
Czech Republic gave good fight for 25 minutes, but then their main players become tired and weren't able to respond to USA intensity. Quality of Czech starting 5 is good, but it's difficult to play when you don't have decent replacement for them on the bench.
Nigeria blew 7 point lead just in few minutes and lost to Italy. There was lot of hype around them before tournament, but they lost all 3 games and leaves Olympics after group stage.
Tomorrow Spain and Slovenia will face each other - it should be epic game, you can't miss it.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: stadus on July 31, 2021, 09:03:15 PM
Tomorrow Spain and Slovenia will face each other - it should be epic game, you can't miss it.
It should be a great match-up, I checked the odds and Slovenia are the favorite here at -4.5, I think the hype is on, I love Luka but the consistency of Spain in the Olympics cannot be discounted, so I'm going with the underdog this game.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: dwyane36 on July 31, 2021, 09:55:09 PM
Tomorrow Spain and Slovenia will face each other - it should be epic game, you can't miss it.
It should be a great match-up, I checked the odds and Slovenia are the favorite here at -4.5, I think the hype is on, I love Luka but the consistency of Spain in the Olympics cannot be discounted, so I'm going with the underdog this game.
Yeah, Slovenia should be the favorite, considering that Doncic looks unstoppable in this tournament. However, I also hope that Rubio and the Gasol brothers might be able to surprise us. Anyway, both teams are already guaranteed places in the next round.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: CLS63 on July 31, 2021, 10:13:14 PM
France and Australia are the best teams so far as they won all of their group games. France managed to defeat even the USA. And as far as I know, they made it after many years against the USA. This was a really meaningful victory because of that. But still I think that the USA are the closest team to the gold medal.

By the way, we have 2 more games tomorrow. One of these games will be really important in terms of the best third-placed teams table. Argentina still have a chance to be one of the top 2 in this table and promote to the next round. They must defeat Japan first. And the other one between Spain and Slovenia will determine who will be at the 1st place.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: gagux123 on July 31, 2021, 10:26:08 PM
Czech Republic gave good fight for 25 minutes, but then their main players become tired and weren't able to respond to USA intensity. Quality of Czech starting 5 is good, but it's difficult to play when you don't have decent replacement for them on the bench.
This is a point that deserves to be highlighted, the USA played very well in the 3rd and 4th period (3rd quarter 35 x 17 and 4th quarter 37 x 24).

I honestly believed that the USA could win on a somewhat tight scoreboard, but it was a relevant victory!

Ohh, I almost forget, another point that deserves attention is the score of some USA players, who played below expectations (my humble opinion), Durant 23 points, Lillar only 8 points, Booker 5 points.

If these players I mentioned played well, the USA could have won with more than 50 points difference!


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: morvillz7z on July 31, 2021, 11:34:37 PM
Tomorrow Spain and Slovenia will face each other - it should be epic game, you can't miss it.
It should be a great match-up, I checked the odds and Slovenia are the favorite here at -4.5, I think the hype is on, I love Luka but the consistency of Spain in the Olympics cannot be discounted, so I'm going with the underdog this game.

Here is a cool stat i dig up for Doncic and Slovenia:

source: https://thesmokingcuban.com/2021/07/31/mavericks-luka-doncic-watch-olympics-spain/
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Doncic is undefeated in 15 games playing for his countries Senior National Team.

Slovenia went undefeated in EuroBasket '17 (9-0), beating Spain in the semi-finals and subsequently winning the gold, topped their qualifier in Lithuania, and is now 2-0 in Group C.

Despite both teams making it to the next round, this is still a really important game. The winner gets the privilege to be in the seeded group before the draw and avoid facing Australia, France, or Team USA in the quarter-finals, that's huge imo.

I'm sure it will be a good one...kinda hard to pick a side but have a small bet on Slovenia 1Q @1.82 (https://i.ibb.co/WyVn2DR/adrgdfv.png).

Spain scored 20 1Q points against Argentina and 18 pts vs. Japan.  Slovenia did a lot better, 32 pts against Argentina and 29pts vs. Japan.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: boltz on July 31, 2021, 11:42:40 PM
Tomorrow Spain and Slovenia will face each other - it should be epic game, you can't miss it.
It should be a great match-up, I checked the odds and Slovenia are the favorite here at -4.5, I think the hype is on, I love Luka but the consistency of Spain in the Olympics cannot be discounted, so I'm going with the underdog this game.
Yeah, Slovenia should be the favorite, considering that Doncic looks unstoppable in this tournament. However, I also hope that Rubio and the Gasol brothers might be able to surprise us. Anyway, both teams are already guaranteed places in the next round.

I do think Slovenia will win too. Doncic is on fire , he's feeling great playing in Asia and especially in Tokyo where he has a lot of fans so I wouldn't not be surprise at all if Slovenia takes the gold home.

If it's up to me to chose , I would like to see USA vs Slovenia but I don't know if they can reach final before they can face with each other but no matter what this is the most anticipated game perhaps that everyone wants to see happening.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: stadus on August 01, 2021, 10:24:32 AM
Tomorrow Spain and Slovenia will face each other - it should be epic game, you can't miss it.
It should be a great match-up, I checked the odds and Slovenia are the favorite here at -4.5, I think the hype is on, I love Luka but the consistency of Spain in the Olympics cannot be discounted, so I'm going with the underdog this game.
Yeah, Slovenia should be the favorite, considering that Doncic looks unstoppable in this tournament. However, I also hope that Rubio and the Gasol brothers might be able to surprise us. Anyway, both teams are already guaranteed places in the next round.

I do think Slovenia will win too. Doncic is on fire , he's feeling great playing in Asia and especially in Tokyo where he has a lot of fans so I wouldn't not be surprise at all if Slovenia takes the gold home.

If it's up to me to chose , I would like to see USA vs Slovenia but I don't know if they can reach final before they can face with each other but no matter what this is the most anticipated game perhaps that everyone wants to see happening.


The hype is real, Slovenia won and covered the spread with a final score of 87-95.

I thought it was a close one, Spain was leading at the half but the 4th quarter was all for Slovenia.
Doncic does not score much but it's a team effort, congrats to the win, Slovenia is on the roll.

https://www.espn.com.au/mens-olympics-basketball/boxscore/_/gameId/401344354


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: LTU_btc on August 01, 2021, 10:47:42 AM
Great match between Slovenia and Spain as expected. Spain controlled almost whole game, but in the end Slovenia were better. Doncic got early 3 fouls, what limited his actions, but still, he was close from triple double. Spain made 44 3pt attempts, Slovenia - 38, what is incredible numbers.
This Slovenia win will let them to avoid facing USA, Australia or France in 1/4 final.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: morvillz7z on August 01, 2021, 11:31:55 AM
Spain drew the short straw and will face Team USA in the quarter-finals, here's rest of the matchups:

https://livecenterimagesnorth.azureedge.net/lc-images-2021/lcimg-d65a0106-2d57-48be-8477-63040001cec5.jpg
image source: https://www.fiba.basketball/olympics/men/2020/live-blog

Doncic is still undefeated with Slovenia, 16-0 now, and not so crazy path to the finals imo. 👀


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: freedomgo on August 01, 2021, 12:03:48 PM
Spain drew the short straw and will face Team USA in the quarter-finals, here's rest of the matchups:


Doncic is still undefeated with Slovenia, 16-0 now, and not so crazy path to the finals imo. 👀

The match between Spain and the US team is very interesting whoever wins here is a strong contender on Gold, Spain right now is playing great they are always in title contention and they can exploit the US team weakness because the US team is not what you can consider a great team compared to all the past team, they are not a dream team and beatable.

Now that Spain lost to Slovenia, I am confident that they will also lose against the USA.
This is a great match actually because Spain will face the favorite team in the Quarter Finals and if they can beat the USA, things will then be unpredictable.

Slovenia vs Spain, this was a close one, just some bad execution by Spain in the 4th quarter, but Spain still has a chance and that is by beating the USA.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Jating on August 01, 2021, 12:26:42 PM
Spain drew the short straw and will face Team USA in the quarter-finals, here's rest of the matchups:


Doncic is still undefeated with Slovenia, 16-0 now, and not so crazy path to the finals imo. 👀

The match between Spain and the US team is very interesting whoever wins here is a strong contender on Gold, Spain right now is playing great they are always in title contention and they can exploit the US team weakness because the US team is not what you can consider a great team compared to all the past team, they are not a dream team and beatable.

Yes the US team is beatable, but this is already a quarterfinals match, and I'm sure they are thinking of elevating their game and for sure they will be the favourite to win after Spain lost to Slovenia.

And it looks like Durant has find his rhythm already, he has some bad games but others was able to cover from him. So this is bad news for the US opponents, as I'm sure Durant will carry the momentum now going against Spain next game.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: danherbias07 on August 01, 2021, 12:56:50 PM
How about that for Slovenia. Close game against Spain until the 4th quarter.
https://i.ibb.co/SRmxGBX/slovenia.png (https://imgbb.com/)
I made a mistake last time putting a bet for Japan +18.5 but now I corrected my mistake, should've trusted him the first time and avoid the loss.

For those who are confused why Germany and Argentina will enter the quarter finals despite being tied with Czech Republic at 1-2. It's the point system (total) that was followed if a tie breaker will occur. That's why all teams continue on playing hard even with a blowout game unlike in NBA.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: dwyane36 on August 01, 2021, 02:08:05 PM
It looks like Spain is not lucky, considering that they will play against the USA in the quarter-finals. Regarding other teams, I guess France and Slovenia might be playing against each other in 1/2 finals. So the USA vs Slovenia match in the final is quite likely.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: stadus on August 01, 2021, 02:27:01 PM
It looks like Spain is not lucky, considering that they will play against the USA in the quarter-finals. Regarding other teams, I guess France and Slovenia might be playing against each other in 1/2 finals. So the USA vs Slovenia match in the final is quite likely.
They should play the USA, they have to prove that they are a good team, USA is not that good as they were in the past Olympics, they lose their opening game and loss a couple of games in exhibition matches, so there's a chance that they'll be eliminated by Spain.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: YuginKadoya on August 01, 2021, 03:21:23 PM
It looks like Spain is not lucky, considering that they will play against the USA in the quarter-finals. Regarding other teams, I guess France and Slovenia might be playing against each other in 1/2 finals. So the USA vs Slovenia match in the final is quite likely.
They should play the USA, they have to prove that they are a good team, USA is not that good as they were in the past Olympics, they lose their opening game and loss a couple of games in exhibition matches, so there's a chance that they'll be eliminated by Spain.

I should say Spain is really a tough team that can sure make a dent in the USA, but in my opinion, the USA is a formidable opponent aswell, well Spain is consist of the Gasol Brothers, Usman Garuba, and Ricky Rubio I think the USA better watch out for those players, Spain had it's lost with Slovenia, while the USA team is consist of players from the NBA, and the USA had lost to France, their opening game, but I think the USA has beaten Spain in their Exhibition match, for me the USA will win their Aug. 3 match.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: CLS63 on August 01, 2021, 03:51:13 PM
Today, we had 2 important group games.

The first one was between Argentina and Japan. It was a really important game for Argentina as they had a chance to be one of the best third-placed teams and qualify for the next round. They had to defeat Japan to make it. And they did it with a 97-77 score. And they have moved up to the 1st place among the third-placed teams. It was really unfortunate for Czech Republic to be out of top 2 and be eliminated.

The second one was between Spain and Slovenia. This was an important game in terms of finishing at the 1st place. And Slovenia were the losing side until the end of the 3rd quarter but they made a really huge comeback and managed to win the game, 95-87. Now they are the opponent of Germany in the quarter finals. And I feel like Slovenia will manage to move them out of their way as well. By the way, Slovenia have a really great win streak now. This is also one of the factors that fire up the team. And I wouldn't like to overlook Doncic. He is the most valuable player for the team surely.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: LTU_btc on August 01, 2021, 04:39:38 PM
This Spain loss to Slovenia cost them a lot. Now they will have to face USA in 1/4 final - matchup worth final. I don't write-off Sapin, I think they are capable to beat USA, but obviously, it's opponent that you want to avoid until final.
Meanwhile, Slovenia will avoid USA in the road to the final. Germany isn't the most dangerous opponent. Potentially they will face France in semifinal, it will be tough, but still ,not USA.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Harkorede on August 01, 2021, 06:05:49 PM
It looks like Spain is not lucky, considering that they will play against the USA in the quarter-finals. Regarding other teams, I guess France and Slovenia might be playing against each other in 1/2 finals. So the USA vs Slovenia match in the final is quite likely.
They should play the USA, they have to prove that they are a good team, USA is not that good as they were in the past Olympics, they lose their opening game and loss a couple of games in exhibition matches, so there's a chance that they'll be eliminated by Spain.

I would have fancied Slovenia chances of eliminating USA than that of Spain's, USA seemed to found quite a rhythm but that suggest they're unstoppable, The lines are up already and it's an early -12.5 for USA, that'd be the ride for me to be honest.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: justdimin on August 01, 2021, 08:17:22 PM
^^This is how you know a good team and this is what differentiates a winner from a loser. If you are a winner team then even if your best player ends up scoring just 12 points then you still end up beating a good team. Everyone needs to realize that this is not the same Spain that gave USA trouble a decade ago, there are still same players in there with Rubio and gasol brothers and fernandez all of which are super old and even Pau is there so I think it is obvious that we should not see them as a great team, it is cool but that's about it. Doncic will score a lot of points of course but Slovenia needs to keep scoring even when he may not and then there is a chance they could win it all.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Ratash on August 01, 2021, 08:35:47 PM
It looks like Spain is not lucky, considering that they will play against the USA in the quarter-finals. Regarding other teams, I guess France and Slovenia might be playing against each other in 1/2 finals. So the USA vs Slovenia match in the final is quite likely.
Yeah unliky for spain they will face usa which after the loss against france i dont think they will repeat that mistake again plus that was the first game they lose in their last three olympics so i think the only capable team to beat them are slovenia.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: gagux123 on August 01, 2021, 09:10:49 PM
Spain drew the short straw and will face Team USA in the quarter-finals, here's rest of the matchups:

https://livecenterimagesnorth.azureedge.net/lc-images-2021/lcimg-d65a0106-2d57-48be-8477-63040001cec5.jpg
image source: https://www.fiba.basketball/olympics/men/2020/live-blog

Doncic is still undefeated with Slovenia, 16-0 now, and not so crazy path to the finals imo. 👀

Hmmm, I don't know, but I'm thinking the finals will be USA vs Slovenia

What do you think?

The Slovenia vs Spain game was interesting and competitive.
By the way, I was happy to see Abrines is playing for the Spain national team, he was even a good player in OKC (in my opinion)



Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: crzy on August 01, 2021, 09:24:36 PM
Spain drew the short straw and will face Team USA in the quarter-finals, here's rest of the matchups:

https://livecenterimagesnorth.azureedge.net/lc-images-2021/lcimg-d65a0106-2d57-48be-8477-63040001cec5.jpg
image source: https://www.fiba.basketball/olympics/men/2020/live-blog

Doncic is still undefeated with Slovenia, 16-0 now, and not so crazy path to the finals imo. 👀

Hmmm, I don't know, but I'm thinking the finals will be USA vs Slovenia

What do you think?
France has the chance this time so I think this will be hard battle for Slovenia if they are able to move on semi-final and face USA in the finals. These team for this Olympic is amazing, they all exceed my expectation and seeing the top countries in the quarter-finals, can't wait to watch them. I'll go for USA vs FRANCE in the finals!


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Yamifoud on August 01, 2021, 09:26:32 PM
It looks like Spain is not lucky, considering that they will play against the USA in the quarter-finals. Regarding other teams, I guess France and Slovenia might be playing against each other in 1/2 finals. So the USA vs Slovenia match in the final is quite likely.
Yeah unliky for spain they will face usa which after the loss against france i dont think they will repeat that mistake again plus that was the first game they lose in their last three olympics so i think the only capable team to beat them are slovenia.

Upsets do happen in Olympics as well, the fact that USA can be beaten by a lower ranking than Spain, I think Spain here also has a chance to upset the USA. Spain is currently +12.5 and +540 on ML in my sports bookie, I guess we will see lots of bettors here backing Spain.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: yazher on August 01, 2021, 09:46:08 PM
Spain drew the short straw and will face Team USA in the quarter-finals, here's rest of the matchups:

https://livecenterimagesnorth.azureedge.net/lc-images-2021/lcimg-d65a0106-2d57-48be-8477-63040001cec5.jpg
image source: https://www.fiba.basketball/olympics/men/2020/live-blog

Doncic is still undefeated with Slovenia, 16-0 now, and not so crazy path to the finals imo. 👀

What a great match for the USA and this will be a must-win game since that team won the FIBA World CUP championship last time, Yeah! they are capable of beating the Team USA but I'm not sure if they can execute their skills when Kevin Durant and the other players are in their prime mode which will not give any chances to any team they will face in the Olympics.



Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: harizen on August 01, 2021, 09:56:49 PM
Upsets do happen in Olympics as well, the fact that USA can be beaten by a lower ranking than Spain, I think Spain here also has a chance to upset the USA. Spain is currently +12.5 and +540 on ML in my sports bookie, I guess we will see lots of bettors here backing Spain.

It's a trap. The USA now becomes more aggressive and serious after that first loss in the preliminary round. And besides, I think they are feeling relaxed during that time as even losing one, they will still have another chance for the Gold. Now entering the next round, they will be in serious mode.

Glad that my bet Slovenia is able to avoid France next round. I'm sure they can handle Germany. Likely, France and Slovenia might face each other on the Semis.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: boltz on August 01, 2021, 10:01:00 PM
Did someone watched Nigeria F team ? Because just by looking at stats, this team shoots the ball a lot so why would Japan be favorite with 1.10 odd ? I might risk it here and go with Nigeria F team as I have some faith in this girls that they will come and play aggressive as this is literally the last game for a chance to move on. By the way , odds are near 5 for Nigeria which is pretty great.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: goinmerry on August 01, 2021, 11:59:27 PM
So what happens here?

I just saw the scoreboard, the game is over and France won by 17 points,  the final score was 79-62.

What's the point spread of this game?
I'm guessing France still covers the spread here.

I lost my fun bet. Already expected but it's ok. I placed a $5 to win @24 odds which is worth risking because of the pointers on that game I mentioned. France is too much to handle and they are even able to cover a large handical.

By the way, the tournament is now in the Quarterfinals phase, and what a nice bracket there. Top teams won't compete with each other on that round so we will expect to see a good and exciting Finals match a few days from now. Like to see if what teams can make an upset against Favorites?


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: gagux123 on August 02, 2021, 01:47:52 AM
France has the chance this time so I think this will be hard battle for Slovenia if they are able to move on semi-final and face USA in the finals. These team for this Olympic is amazing, they all exceed my expectation and seeing the top countries in the quarter-finals, can't wait to watch them. I'll go for USA vs FRANCE in the finals!
Hmmm, what you said makes a lot of sense, I didn't think about that possibility, France have a chance of going to the finals.

But I don't know, Luka Dončić is playing really well lately, if he can already contrast in NBA, imagine in the Olympics? Not all players participate in the NBA.

I believe, for France beat Slovenia, they will have to "annul" Luka Dončić and "not let him breathe". If France can do that, they have a good chance to beat Slovenia.

If Goran Dragic were playing, I believe the victory over France would be easier.

It will be a competitive game, but I still believe Slovenia will to the finals.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: harizen on August 02, 2021, 02:10:24 AM
Hmmm, what you said makes a lot of sense, I didn't think about that possibility, France have a chance of going to the finals.

It will be a competitive game, but I still believe Slovenia will to the finals.

Hold on, guys. Before that possibility of France vs Slovenia, they need to settle things first on their respective matches in the next round.

For Italy vs France, the former isn't a team that can be taken lightly. Their only 1 loss against undefeated Australia is a close match and ended up in just a 3 point lead. That's why even France is considered one of the tops as they beat the USA, people should expect that Italy will able to give a good close game against them.

For Slovenia vs Germany, I will be biased for Slovenia lol because of Luka being on my long-time fave team in NBA, Dallas Mavericks (I'm with Germany before when Dirk Nowitzki, still on Dallas Mavericks, is actively playing). But technical analysis-wise, Germany is also a team that can't be taken lightly.

And aside from that, the next round is a knockout round so no room for bad and worst performance so players will surely give their all. All teams on the next round are exciting to watch.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: gagux123 on August 02, 2021, 06:29:32 AM
Hold on, guys. Before that possibility of France vs Slovenia, they need to settle things first on their respective matches in the next round.

For Italy vs France, the former isn't a team that can be taken lightly. Their only 1 loss against undefeated Australia is a close match and ended up in just a 3 point lead. That's why even France is considered one of the tops as they beat the USA, people should expect that Italy will able to give a good close game against them.

For Slovenia vs Germany, I will be biased for Slovenia lol because of Luka being on my long-time fave team in NBA, Dallas Mavericks (I'm with Germany before when Dirk Nowitzki, still on Dallas Mavericks, is actively playing). But technical analysis-wise, Germany is also a team that can't be taken lightly.

And aside from that, the next round is a knockout round so no room for bad and worst performance so players will surely give their all. All teams on the next round are exciting to watch.
This is an interesting topic for us to discuss.

France is a good team, Slovenia too, I don't know, but as I said earlier, for France to win, it will be necessary to defend against Luka Dončić, if France will do that, their chances of winning will increase.

Ohh, I almost forget, with France's victory against the US, the confidence of the French players increased, and they proved that the US is a beatable team


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: danherbias07 on August 02, 2021, 06:47:15 AM
Ohh, I almost forget, with France's victory against the US, the confidence of the French players increased, and they proved that the US is a beatable team
It's true but it's still a long way. Although Germany, Italy, and Argentina are on the bad position at preliminary, they cannot just mess with them.
Italy especially who defeated 2 teams in their preliminary bracket and will face the France team now. Argentina also has a big chance to defeat Australia.
They were in the strongest bracket with Slovenia and Spain that is why their record went bad at 1-2. Australia could be at a good record at 3-0 but they cannot relax in this quarter Finals.
All games will be tomorrow at my time, I guess there will be no turning off the television.  ;D


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Fredomago on August 02, 2021, 07:52:27 AM
It looks like Spain is not lucky, considering that they will play against the USA in the quarter-finals. Regarding other teams, I guess France and Slovenia might be playing against each other in 1/2 finals. So the USA vs Slovenia match in the final is quite likely.
Yeah unliky for spain they will face usa which after the loss against france i dont think they will repeat that mistake again plus that was the first game they lose in their last three olympics so i think the only capable team to beat them are slovenia.

Upsets do happen in Olympics as well, the fact that USA can be beaten by a lower ranking than Spain, I think Spain here also has a chance to upset the USA. Spain is currently +12.5 and +540 on ML in my sports bookie, I guess we will see lots of bettors here backing Spain.

It happened before and it can happen again if team US will relax, Though for sure that last lost from France gives them the wake call that it's their country's pride that in stake,

And yeah you are right Spain is also a good contender here, might bring much emotions trying to extend their chance for a possible semis.

All in all, we have to wait for all those games and see who will advance. Good luck!


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: stadus on August 02, 2021, 11:11:07 AM
It looks like Spain is not lucky, considering that they will play against the USA in the quarter-finals. Regarding other teams, I guess France and Slovenia might be playing against each other in 1/2 finals. So the USA vs Slovenia match in the final is quite likely.
Yeah unliky for spain they will face usa which after the loss against france i dont think they will repeat that mistake again plus that was the first game they lose in their last three olympics so i think the only capable team to beat them are slovenia.

Upsets do happen in Olympics as well, the fact that USA can be beaten by a lower ranking than Spain, I think Spain here also has a chance to upset the USA. Spain is currently +12.5 and +540 on ML in my sports bookie, I guess we will see lots of bettors here backing Spain.

It happened before and it can happen again if team US will relax, Though for sure that last lost from France gives them the wake call that it's their country's pride that in stake,

And yeah you are right Spain is also a good contender here, might bring much emotions trying to extend their chance for a possible semis.

All in all, we have to wait for all those games and see who will advance. Good luck!

Everyone is putting their bet on the USA, let's remember that this is a quarter-final, so Team Spain will give everything they have to compete. We also have to remember that this team has competed against the better USA version and they always give them good competition, therefore IMO the spread is just to high and Spain could cover it.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: ingiltere on August 02, 2021, 12:49:23 PM
Spain drew the short straw and will face Team USA in the quarter-finals, here's rest of the matchups:

https://livecenterimagesnorth.azureedge.net/lc-images-2021/lcimg-d65a0106-2d57-48be-8477-63040001cec5.jpg
image source: https://www.fiba.basketball/olympics/men/2020/live-blog

Doncic is still undefeated with Slovenia, 16-0 now, and not so crazy path to the finals imo. 👀

It feels like an early final for Spain and USA game. It's kinda bad match-up for the tournament, I wish they meet in finals like they used to in two of last three Olympics. I think whoever reach semi final from this match-up will get gold medal. When you think about USA's France loss you can understand Spain has a decent chance to beat USA too. If they achieve this they can get gold medal. USA is favorite anyway.
I expect France to beat Italy and Slovenia to beat Germany, for Australia I don't think they can pass Argentina. So semi finals could be France - Slovenia and Argentina - Spain/USA.
At that moment I won't be surprised any team to reach the final. I can't really pick a team between France and Slovenia. It's more dependent about Doncic's performance.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: danherbias07 on August 02, 2021, 03:02:10 PM
Okay, so the bets for the quarter Finals opened already at Stake.com. Last time I checked it was not there yet. My bets are already locked in early for this 3 games.
https://i.ibb.co/XLHmGHg/Olym.png (https://imgbb.com/)
Going underdogs for Argentina as I think there's a possibility for a win given they were grouped with Slovenia and Spain at preliminary. I just can't decide for Spain versus USA. Both teams are good but USA is the favorite here which had been going for most Olympics meet.
I am thinking risk high or just go with the spreads with +10 for Spain and be on the safe zone.  :-\


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: acquafredda on August 02, 2021, 03:09:23 PM
Excitement is growing in Italy for the quarterfinals of the basketball tournament at the Tokyo Olympics, where coach Sacchetti will be called upon to perform yet another great game against Rudy Gobert's France. After beating Nigeria in the last round of the group phase, Danilo Gallinari and his teammates have gained the pass for the knockout phase, where they were immediately drawn with one of the most formidable opponents of the competition, France, the only team capable of beating the highly favored United States during the round.
I think Italy will play well again, but France will reach the semi.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Yamifoud on August 02, 2021, 05:39:55 PM
It looks like Spain is not lucky, considering that they will play against the USA in the quarter-finals. Regarding other teams, I guess France and Slovenia might be playing against each other in 1/2 finals. So the USA vs Slovenia match in the final is quite likely.
Yeah unliky for spain they will face usa which after the loss against france i dont think they will repeat that mistake again plus that was the first game they lose in their last three olympics so i think the only capable team to beat them are slovenia.

Upsets do happen in Olympics as well, the fact that USA can be beaten by a lower ranking than Spain, I think Spain here also has a chance to upset the USA. Spain is currently +12.5 and +540 on ML in my sports bookie, I guess we will see lots of bettors here backing Spain.

It happened before and it can happen again if team US will relax, Though for sure that last lost from France gives them the wake call that it's their country's pride that in stake,

And yeah you are right Spain is also a good contender here, might bring much emotions trying to extend their chance for a possible semis.

All in all, we have to wait for all those games and see who will advance. Good luck!

I'm waiting for the outcome of the match, if USA can beat the Spain in a big margin, then I think USA will win this competition. Though France beat them at the start but I doubt they will ever face again as I think they'll not even reach the Finals.

I think Italy will play well again, but France will reach the semi.
Looking for an upset here.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: sana54210 on August 02, 2021, 05:42:11 PM
It happened before and it can happen again if team US will relax, Though for sure that last lost from France gives them the wake call that it's their country's pride that in stake,

And yeah you are right Spain is also a good contender here, might bring much emotions trying to extend their chance for a possible semis.

All in all, we have to wait for all those games and see who will advance. Good luck!
I do not even think that it is much about being relax or not, I think it is a bit more about getting ready. The court is a bit different, the ball is a bit different, even the basket is a bit different. These are all millimetre of course and not a big deal, but at the end of the day it is a bit different. So that took USA by surprise just a bit, sure they trained a lot but training and real game is different as we all know, Dwight Howard can shoot 80-90% from free throws on training if you want to understand the difference.

However USA seems to got that under  control and they are basically working to fight on defense a lot all game and have fast breaks, which lowers the risk of bad shooting because the more fast breaks you do , the more you score.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: W Jr. on August 02, 2021, 05:43:37 PM
Spain drew the short straw and will face Team USA in the quarter-finals, here's rest of the matchups:

https://livecenterimagesnorth.azureedge.net/lc-images-2021/lcimg-d65a0106-2d57-48be-8477-63040001cec5.jpg
image source: https://www.fiba.basketball/olympics/men/2020/live-blog

Doncic is still undefeated with Slovenia, 16-0 now, and not so crazy path to the finals imo. 👀

We see an early final game in basketball. Spain-USA match will be such a match. While the USA is seen as the favourite, Spain is not a team to be taken lightly. Most likely, the winner of this match will be the champion. In other matches, my predictions are that France, Slovenia and Argentina will win.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: stadus on August 02, 2021, 06:05:32 PM

We see an early final game in basketball. Spain-USA match will be such a match. While the USA is seen as the favourite, Spain is not a team to be taken lightly. Most likely, the winner of this match will be the champion. In other matches, my predictions are that France, Slovenia and Argentina will win.

Agree with that, and that's the reason why I'm betting on Spain against the USA, both point spread and a chance to upset the USA. Spain is one of my favorites to win a gold medal here, so if they'll lose, my prediction is wrong, so I'll be sticking with my prediction.

So attractive.
https://i.ibb.co/BzcCjrH/not-bad.png (https://ibb.co/7Yj1VRx)
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Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: gagux123 on August 02, 2021, 08:58:55 PM
It's true but it's still a long way. Although Germany, Italy, and Argentina are on the bad position at preliminary, they cannot just mess with them.
Italy especially who defeated 2 teams in their preliminary bracket and will face the France team now. Argentina also has a big chance to defeat Australia.
They were in the strongest bracket with Slovenia and Spain that is why their record went bad at 1-2. Australia could be at a good record at 3-0 but they cannot relax in this quarter Finals.
All games will be tomorrow at my time, I guess there will be no turning off the television.  ;D
Yes, these teams that you mentioned, Germany, Italy, Argentina, Spain and others, are traditional teams in the Olympics, I believe that they participated several times and always with chances to win medals (bronze, silver and gold).

I also believe the games between Argentina vs Australia and France vs Italy will be competitive and exciting games, especially Argentina vs Australia.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: bisdak40 on August 02, 2021, 09:57:22 PM
So attractive.
https://i.ibb.co/BzcCjrH/not-bad.png (https://ibb.co/7Yj1VRx)
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Attractive indeed but not gonna bet on that one as I'm a big fan of the US basketball team and I expect them to win this one.

I don't expect a blowout win from them so I'm betting for Spain with HC, hope this will works hehe.

https://i.imgur.com/gKMlup7.jpg


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: wheelz1200 on August 02, 2021, 10:07:59 PM
So attractive.
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Attractive indeed but not gonna bet on that one as I'm a big fan of the US basketball team and I expect them to win this one.

I don't expect a blowout win from them so I'm betting for Spain with HC, hope this will works hehe.

https://i.imgur.com/gKMlup7.jpg

Yeah not a bad bet.  I don't expect them to lose either they are starting to play real well together but at those odds it's not a bad punt.  I'd hate to straight up play the spread because the US can blow them out for sure.  But with 7.0 odds that would be worth a ML bet in case of an upset which has happened throughout the years.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Harkorede on August 02, 2021, 10:12:13 PM
So attractive.
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Attractive indeed but not gonna bet on that one as I'm a big fan of the US basketball team and I expect them to win this one.

I don't expect a blowout win from them so I'm betting for Spain with HC, hope this will works hehe.

https://i.imgur.com/gKMlup7.jpg

Yeah not a bad bet.  I don't expect them to lose either they are starting to play real well together but at those odds it's not a bad punt.  I'd hate to straight up play the spread because the US can blow them out for sure.  But with 7.0 odds that would be worth a ML bet in case of an upset which has happened throughout the years.

I asked stick with my initial pic and go with USA, I think they're really are going to win it with -12.5

I really do not trust Spain enough.

Good luck to everyone!


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: harizen on August 02, 2021, 11:43:57 PM
Agree with that, and that's the reason why I'm betting on Spain against the USA, both point spread and a chance to upset the USA. Spain is one of my favorites to win a gold medal here, so if they'll lose, my prediction is wrong, so I'll be sticking with my prediction.

So attractive.
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Goodluck. It was risky on my part. The USA might not be the USA before but the same goes for Spain.

These teams that clashed before in the Olympic finals have changed through the years. Team USA is much ahead and I don't see any upset.

But for those bettors who are eager to bet on Spain but still confused, a point spread would do. I'm sure they can cover the 14+ spread as in all of their meetings, the average lead of the USA is playing between 6-8 points.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: morvillz7z on August 02, 2021, 11:53:57 PM
I don't see any upsets in the quarter-finals, so i'm going with France, Team USA, and Australia in a three-team parlay at roughly 1.80x (https://i.ibb.co/1Tf69YQ/dtgshsrtg.png), which is a good price for what should be routine wins imo. I'm going to watch the first 1/4 between Slovenia and Germany, which starts in just over an hour from now. I'd want to take Germany +21.5 with a live bet (current line is +16.5), but Luka and his team need to get off to a fast start, so i could get the line that i want, will see how it goes...

I know most people expect (and want to see) Slovenia vs. Team USA in the final, but i have a strange feeling it will be France, and the US will get a chance to redeem themselves for that loss at the start of the tournament, bringing home yet another gold medal. France has a better FG%, 3pt%, and FT% than Slovenia, they may not have a player like Luka on their team, but their roster is exceptionally well-rounded with a good half-court offense. Not to mention that Batum got the better of Luka in the West first-round GM4 with a couple of steals and blocks against him, which is when the Clippers decided to go small. Luka can surely be slowed down by Batum, at least a little bit. Well, enough talk about possible semi-finals and the such, let's see what happens in the 1/4 first.

Gl, everyone!  ;)


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: goinmerry on August 02, 2021, 11:57:18 PM
It happened before and it can happen again if team US will relax, Though for sure that last lost from France gives them the wake call that it's their country's pride that in stake,

The USA didn't relax on that game loss against France. They are competitive throughout the game but France also gave their best performance because they know it's the USA and going against that team needs a double work.

It's ok that they have lost as you said, a wake-up call to bring their usual fierce in any global basketball competition.

Now facing against Spain, they are much ready and prepared.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Dave1 on August 03, 2021, 02:52:15 AM
So attractive.
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From sportsbet.io



Attractive indeed but not gonna bet on that one as I'm a big fan of the US basketball team and I expect them to win this one.

I don't expect a blowout win from them so I'm betting for Spain with HC, hope this will works hehe.

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Exactly, we have the same thoughts, so I'm going with the +14.5 @1.92 boosted odds.

Spain will really stick with the US here so I'm also not expecting a blowout win by the US.

And then wait for the result of this match, before I bet on Italy vs France and Australia vs Argentina, I'm smelling some upset between that two games.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: danherbias07 on August 03, 2021, 03:53:26 AM
One down. Slovenia defeated Germany in a blowout game. I should have put more at the spread to gain a better profit. Profit is still money, got to be satisfied with what I won.
France has a better FG%, 3pt%, and FT% than Slovenia, they may not have a player like Luka on their team, but their roster is exceptionally well-rounded with a good half-court offense. Not to mention that Batum got the better of Luka in the West first-round GM4 with a couple of steals and blocks against him, which is when the Clippers decided to go small. Luka can surely be slowed down by Batum, at least a little bit. Well, enough talk about possible semi-finals and the such, let's see what happens in the 1/4 first.

Gl, everyone!  ;)
Bro, this is scary if it happens again. It's the length of Batum that makes him a good defender against guys like Luka who holds the ball too much inviting him for a steal. I can still remember winning a lot of bets for Batum's player props back at Clippers for his defensive stats.
Spain is now +12.5 @ 2.20 versus USA unlike yesterday with only +10.5. A big "Ouch" for me.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: yazher on August 03, 2021, 09:23:52 AM
It goes well for the team USA and they finally eliminate Spain from the 2021 Tokyo Olympics. Durant has become the superstar of the team and that prime mode really works this time. Hopefully, they will do the same in their next game to be able to compete for the Silver Medal and Finally go for the gold medal.

https://i.ibb.co/J28LmKD/231591008-4365894426851300-177797890217439584-n.jpg


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Yaunfitda on August 03, 2021, 09:28:16 AM
^^ But it was not that easy for the US, Spain jump on an early lead, if I'm not mistaken, Spain has double digit at one point in time. But the US team slowly grind very hard and then tie the score and eventually lead and then it grow.

Italy vs France now,  Italy leading by 7 points in the 3rd quarter.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Pamadar on August 03, 2021, 11:11:55 AM
^^ But it was not that easy for the US, Spain jump on an early lead, if I'm not mistaken, Spain has double digit at one point in time. But the US team slowly grind very hard and then tie the score and eventually lead and then it grow.

Italy vs France now,  Italy leading by 7 points in the 3rd quarter.

France Managed to win it was very intense as Italy really rallied in the final quarter,

But those opportunities to tied taking crucial 3 points attempts, If Gallanari convert those it should extend this game to OT maybe, but it was the good ball rotations from France that give them this win, they are really good finding the open man and that kind of trust to each players inside that's really a team efforts.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: LTU_btc on August 03, 2021, 11:22:13 AM
Disappointed about Spain loss. Rubio was amazing again, but he was prety much alone and didn't got much help from teammates.
Gasol brothers already announced about retirement from national team. An end of era. Wouldn't be surprised if Llull, Rodriguez and Fernandez will do same. The Last Dance.
Italy - France was great game. France were leading most of time, but Italy were close in 4th quarter. And that Gobert 360° dunk was cherry on top.
Slovenia won quite easy, something as expected. Doncic was close from triple double again.
Australia - Argentina is next.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: magneto on August 03, 2021, 11:24:43 AM
Rooting for Australia tonight.

Argentina is definitely a strong team, but the top two players on the team are probably Campazzo and Scola.

Australia simply has more youth. Scola definitely can't run full court as well as he used to, even though he can still dominate the paint.

Even at 1.26, it would back Aus. Although I'm 100% biased, that's for sure.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: W Jr. on August 03, 2021, 11:51:53 AM
In fact, Spain finished the first quarter leading 21-19. They finished the first half in a 43-43 draw. Then, Kevin Durant's effective play made the difference. Even though Ricky Rubio scored 38 points by himself, he could not prevent Spain from being eliminated. We can say that the USA won the gold medal in these Olympics.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: bisdak40 on August 03, 2021, 12:41:52 PM
In fact, Spain finished the first quarter leading 21-19. They finished the first half in a 43-43 draw. Then, Kevin Durant's effective play made the difference. Even though Ricky Rubio scored 38 points by himself, he could not prevent Spain from being eliminated. We can say that the USA won the gold medal in these Olympics.

During the first half of the game, the bigs of Spain were so effective inside the paint but with their age, they can't endure the 40 minutes of play that is why in the second half, the US squad bounce back.

I think most of the users here have won their bets, may it be they are for the US or Spain as the former has covered the spread of -12.5.

Looking ahead on their game in the semi-finals against Australia or Argentina which both have defeated the US in the Vegas exhibition, I think they will have some trouble with Australia but I think the confidence of the US players are high at the moment so I think they can overcome this hurdle and go to the Finals as expected of them.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Sanitough on August 03, 2021, 12:44:26 PM
Rooting for Australia tonight.

Argentina is definitely a strong team, but the top two players on the team are probably Campazzo and Scola.

Australia simply has more youth. Scola definitely can't run full court as well as he used to, even though he can still dominate the paint.

Even at 1.26, it would back Aus. Although I'm 100% biased, that's for sure.

You are lucky to get that odds, right now the odds is only 1.14 and Australia is -8.5.. I think I will take the spread instead because that 1.14 is very small and too risky to put a big amount of bet although I'm so confident they'll win. Anyway, good luck to us, I hope Australia will win and cover.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Reid on August 03, 2021, 01:48:32 PM
Full of emotions for Luis Scola and the rest of the Argentina team.
This is big for them especially for Scola and this may be the last time we will see him in the Olympics.
3rd quarter was still fun with just 6 point lead until Australia got too far away making it harder to close the gap with Dante Exum's explosive 11 point run. 

Argentina's shooting percentage was low and the defense was not there. Next Olympic game, they know what they are missing. Shooters.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: ILuckyGuyI on August 03, 2021, 02:31:54 PM
We didn't get surprising results today in the quarter final games. The results were like this:

Slovenia - Germany : 94-70
Spain - USA : 81-95
Italy - France : 75-84
Australia - Argentina : 97-59

I'm happy to see that Slovenia won the game easily. And it wasn't surprising though. Dragic and Doncic had a quite decent performance and carried their team to the semi finals.

The semi-final draws are like this:

France - Slovenia
USA - Australia


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Harkorede on August 03, 2021, 02:36:04 PM
So attractive.
[..]
From sportsbet.io



Attractive indeed but not gonna bet on that one as I'm a big fan of the US basketball team and I expect them to win this one.

I don't expect a blowout win from them so I'm betting for Spain with HC, hope this will works hehe.

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Exactly, we have the same thoughts, so I'm going with the +14.5 @1.92 boosted odds.

Spain will really stick with the US here so I'm also not expecting a blowout win by the US.

And then wait for the result of this match, before I bet on Italy vs France and Australia vs Argentina, I'm smelling some upset between that two games.

Wow! That was pretty close, congratulations to you and to everyone else who won their bets.

I just knew USA would cover the initial spread, it was a big game from Rubio, but unfortunately there's no stopping them, Australia is up next ☺️



Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: carlisle1 on August 03, 2021, 03:07:10 PM
We didn't get surprising results today in the quarter final games. The results were like this:

Slovenia - Germany : 94-70
Spain - USA : 81-95
Italy - France : 75-84
Australia - Argentina : 97-59

I'm happy to see that Slovenia won the game easily. And it wasn't surprising though. Dragic and Doncic had a quite decent performance and carried their team to the semi finals.

The semi-final draws are like this:

France - Slovenia
USA - Australia

Very Balance semis, anyone is capable in winning depends now with how the coach will rotate their players and make sure to balance who's inside.

Both offense and defense is needed since this 4 teams have good players who can contribute outside and inside,
also a good challenge for team US to work and continue for their quest for the gold.

Aussie have enough quality players to work with the US, if France beats them it's also possible with Aussie as they've got those competitive stars inside the national team.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: acquafredda on August 03, 2021, 03:28:06 PM
Italy tried the impossible against France (with 3 NBA stars).
In a game fought from start to finish, France held the lead the longest, even though Italy managed to tie the game midway through the last quarter. Fontecchio was the best scorer of the game with 23 points, followed by Gobert's 22, Fournier's 21 and Gallinari's 21.
Semifinals will be quite great considering there are Sloveni, USA and France: Australia will be the underdog IMO.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: dwyane36 on August 03, 2021, 04:00:36 PM
The semi-final draws are like this:

France - Slovenia
USA - Australia
The results of the quarter-finals were expected. Regarding the upcoming semi-finals, I guess France vs Slovenia should be a close game, but it's worth noting that Slovenia is considered a favorite. Also, I doubt that Australia might be able to win the USA twice.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: W Jr. on August 03, 2021, 04:08:39 PM
In fact, Spain finished the first quarter leading 21-19. They finished the first half in a 43-43 draw. Then, Kevin Durant's effective play made the difference. Even though Ricky Rubio scored 38 points by himself, he could not prevent Spain from being eliminated. We can say that the USA won the gold medal in these Olympics.

During the first half of the game, the bigs of Spain were so effective inside the paint but with their age, they can't endure the 40 minutes of play that is why in the second half, the US squad bounce back.

I think most of the users here have won their bets, may it be they are for the US or Spain as the former has covered the spread of -12.5.

Looking ahead on their game in the semi-finals against Australia or Argentina which both have defeated the US in the Vegas exhibition, I think they will have some trouble with Australia but I think the confidence of the US players are high at the moment so I think they can overcome this hurdle and go to the Finals as expected of them.

The USA came to the Olympics with a squad that was strong enough to beat both Australia and Argentina. USA will go to the final no matter who their opponent is. I was thinking of Spain as the strongest competitor. They passed this hurdle easily. They will get the gold medal without any problems, as in the previous Olympics.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on August 03, 2021, 04:20:23 PM
Well, it is necessary to emphasize that the USA was able to survive the outbreak of Ricky Rubio, the USA shows that it is a very complete team, in fact, Spain I consider it as a powerful team in basketball, it is a great job that these countries do with sport, I am not very knowledgeable about basketball but this is one of the highest paying sports in the world.

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Kevin Durant led the Americans with 29 points in 31 minutes, but he got plenty of help. Four other players (Jrue Holiday, Zach LaVine, Damian Lillard and Jayson Tatum) hit double-digits in the scoring department, and Team USA shot 48 percent from the field overall with 28 assists.
Source: https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/usa-spain-basketball-live-score-highlights-olympics/5oqzgiqmylsw10s3v4oihsdw9 (https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/usa-spain-basketball-live-score-highlights-olympics/5oqzgiqmylsw10s3v4oihsdw9)


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: wheelz1200 on August 03, 2021, 04:34:39 PM
Dominating win for the US, they have to be the hands down favorite to win this year.  Durant has been looking great.  Would never bet on them since the odds are so slim but these games looks like a good time to bet on them.  Haven't looked but what are the odds of them taking the whole thing, anyone know what the curre t odds are?


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: jakdanyel on August 03, 2021, 06:25:10 PM
Today, I really liked watching Slovenia while they were destroying Germany in the quarter final game of theirs. Dragic got 27 points and Doncic made a double-double with 20 points, 11 assists. As long as these star players of the team play really good, it will be hard for their opponent to eliminate Slovenia. I think the most capable team among the others are USA. And they are also the absolute favourite in this tournament of course. I guess they would earn the gold medal at the end.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: justdimin on August 03, 2021, 06:51:11 PM
The USA came to the Olympics with a squad that was strong enough to beat both Australia and Argentina. USA will go to the final no matter who their opponent is. I was thinking of Spain as the strongest competitor. They passed this hurdle easily. They will get the gold medal without any problems, as in the previous Olympics.
I am pretty sure that USA will beat Australia, not saying it is guaranteed since we have seen weirder stuff happen before but it looks like it is basically highly favorite. What I am intrigued the most is that this Doncic fella keeps on beating everyone, won the eurobasket as well right? And he is showing how awesome he is on NBA as well, France managed to beat USA so they are definitely a great team but if Slovenia manages to beat France and then beat USA as well, both of which are incredibly difficult, that will make people question Dallas a lot, like Doncic would win a ring easily if Dallas didn't suck as a general whole, but I think that won't happen.

I am guessing Slovenia will beat France, USA will beat Australia and then USA will beat Slovenia, that will be the way I bet but let’s see what is going to happen, anything could happen.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: W Jr. on August 03, 2021, 07:19:31 PM
The USA came to the Olympics with a squad that was strong enough to beat both Australia and Argentina. USA will go to the final no matter who their opponent is. I was thinking of Spain as the strongest competitor. They passed this hurdle easily. They will get the gold medal without any problems, as in the previous Olympics.
I am pretty sure that USA will beat Australia, not saying it is guaranteed since we have seen weirder stuff happen before but it looks like it is basically highly favorite. What I am intrigued the most is that this Doncic fella keeps on beating everyone, won the eurobasket as well right? And he is showing how awesome he is on NBA as well, France managed to beat USA so they are definitely a great team but if Slovenia manages to beat France and then beat USA as well, both of which are incredibly difficult, that will make people question Dallas a lot, like Doncic would win a ring easily if Dallas didn't suck as a general whole, but I think that won't happen.

I am guessing Slovenia will beat France, USA will beat Australia and then USA will beat Slovenia, that will be the way I bet but let’s see what is going to happen, anything could happen.

I also think France can beat Slovenia. The USA and France will probably meet in the final. We know that France beat the USA in the first match. This can be counted as a rematch. The USA will probably win this time. Of course, everything is a possibility, it would be a big surprise if the USA is defeated.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on August 03, 2021, 07:24:52 PM
Dominating win for the US, they have to be the hands down favorite to win this year.  Durant has been looking great.  Would never bet on them since the odds are so slim but these games looks like a good time to bet on them.  Haven't looked but what are the odds of them taking the whole thing, anyone know what the curre t odds are?
Dude, them not winning in this sport is a bit humiliating if you ask me because that's like their flagship sports plus, I think that they will probably continue to dominate the whole tournament, I have high hopes that other countries will be able to make a good fight against them.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: LTU_btc on August 03, 2021, 09:08:00 PM
Found nice image on FIBA page:
https://i.imgur.com/PT650k6.jpg
End of era of two legends. We enjoyed watching them playing for maybe 20 years. It's sad that this day come, but that's life


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Hypnosis00 on August 03, 2021, 09:12:35 PM
The USA came to the Olympics with a squad that was strong enough to beat both Australia and Argentina. USA will go to the final no matter who their opponent is. I was thinking of Spain as the strongest competitor. They passed this hurdle easily. They will get the gold medal without any problems, as in the previous Olympics.
I am pretty sure that USA will beat Australia, not saying it is guaranteed since we have seen weirder stuff happen before but it looks like it is basically highly favorite. What I am intrigued the most is that this Doncic fella keeps on beating everyone, won the eurobasket as well right? And he is showing how awesome he is on NBA as well, France managed to beat USA so they are definitely a great team but if Slovenia manages to beat France and then beat USA as well, both of which are incredibly difficult, that will make people question Dallas a lot, like Doncic would win a ring easily if Dallas didn't suck as a general whole, but I think that won't happen.

I am guessing Slovenia will beat France, USA will beat Australia and then USA will beat Slovenia, that will be the way I bet but let’s see what is going to happen, anything could happen.

I also think France can beat Slovenia. The USA and France will probably meet in the final. We know that France beat the USA in the first match. This can be counted as a rematch. The USA will probably win this time. Of course, everything is a possibility, it would be a big surprise if the USA is defeated.

Australia is quite scary, but they are playing against the USA, the top favorite so they might still lose.

Everyone is probably backing the USA to win here, but it's a semi-final match, Australia is also a decent team although they are the underdog this time.
If Australia will upset the USA, it should be a big win by bettors as USA is heavily favored as usual.

The odds is similar to the game between USA vs France.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: goaldigger on August 03, 2021, 09:20:46 PM
Dominating win for the US, they have to be the hands down favorite to win this year.  Durant has been looking great.  Would never bet on them since the odds are so slim but these games looks like a good time to bet on them.  Haven't looked but what are the odds of them taking the whole thing, anyone know what the curre t odds are?
Dude, them not winning in this sport is a bit humiliating if you ask me because that's like their flagship sports plus, I think that they will probably continue to dominate the whole tournament, I have high hopes that other countries will be able to make a good fight against them.
Compare to their last games, this is not a dominant game with USA after all, the score is not that far and Spain is a good team. Luckily, Durant want able to carry the whole team or else they’ll face an early exit. Anyway, USA will face Australia and this is not an easy one, I hope they work more as a team to make a more convincing win, many still believes on USA.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: magneto on August 03, 2021, 10:01:00 PM
Rooting for Australia tonight.

Argentina is definitely a strong team, but the top two players on the team are probably Campazzo and Scola.

Australia simply has more youth. Scola definitely can't run full court as well as he used to, even though he can still dominate the paint.

Even at 1.26, it would back Aus. Although I'm 100% biased, that's for sure.

You are lucky to get that odds, right now the odds is only 1.14 and Australia is -8.5.. I think I will take the spread instead because that 1.14 is very small and too risky to put a big amount of bet although I'm so confident they'll win. Anyway, good luck to us, I hope Australia will win and cover.

Yeah, I think the odds might have changed closer to the start. But when I placed bets on Betfair it was definitely still 1.26/1.27 for back and lay respectively.

Anyhow, great win from Australia. Started quite sluggish but as the game progressed, their dominance definitely showed in terms of athleticism and experience. Campazzo was great at the start but fizzled out - too many risky passes.

Farewell to an absolute legend in Luis Scola, though. Still remember his days with Yao on the Rockets. Odds on Australia seem like a steal for the semifinals - granted they are not likely to win, but 6x odds definitely entices me enough.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: robelneo on August 03, 2021, 10:19:39 PM

Compare to their last games, this is not a dominant game with USA after all, the score is not that far and Spain is a good team. Luckily, Durant want able to carry the whole team or else they’ll face an early exit. Anyway, USA will face Australia and this is not an easy one, I hope they work more as a team to make a more convincing win, many still believes on USA.

They were moving the ball nicely and Durant is in its best shape for this game, if not Spain could have stolen this one because of Rubio's hot hands, if they can keep up their form they can beat Australia who beat them in the exhibition game, they have a good chance to win the gold now that they have beaten Spain who is always a contender for the medal for the last three Olympics.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: ILuckyGuyI on August 03, 2021, 10:47:58 PM
My predictions for the semi final games are like this:

USA - Australia
France - Slovenia

I don't think that Australia would be able to resist to USA. Durant would probably be the player of the game again and USA would win it easily.

When it comes to the other game, it's going to be really tough as both of these teams are very powerful. But I see Slovenia as one step ahead. I think that we will watch a very close game but Slovenia will be the winner at the end. I expect another great performance from Doncic and Dragic.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: wheelz1200 on August 03, 2021, 11:05:48 PM
My predictions for the semi final games are like this:

USA - Australia
France - Slovenia

I don't think that Australia would be able to resist to USA. Durant would probably be the player of the game again and USA would win it easily.
Australia is not an easy opponent and we know that team USA is not that strong because only Durant plays the best game so far and if they didn’t step up, Australia will have a chance to win though of course USA have more pride here after defeating a world champion Spain team, this is an exciting game. My prediction would be USA and FRANCE in the finals, that could be more fun.

I agree Australia won't be an easy game.  Australia gives different looks and plays the US well.  Ultimately I think the US smells blood here and turns it up a notch.  Would guess Durant goes for 30 and controls the game throughout.  He is just a match up nightmare for any team.  But as Durant/Lillard goes so does the US.  Also think France will take out Slovenia for a US France gold match up.  Either way I hope these last couple games are a good watch.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Baofeng on August 03, 2021, 11:06:39 PM
My predictions for the semi final games are like this:

USA - Australia
France - Slovenia

I don't think that Australia would be able to resist to USA. Durant would probably be the player of the game again and USA would win it easily.
Australia is not an easy opponent and we know that team USA is not that strong because only Durant plays the best game so far and if they didn’t step up, Australia will have a chance to win though of course USA have more pride here after defeating a world champion Spain team, this is an exciting game. My prediction would be USA and FRANCE in the finals, that could be more fun.

I agree, Australia will be a tough battle for the US, I think they are also one of the favourites to win in this  Olympics. They are lead by Patty Mills, so this will be an interesting battle. They've so far covered the spread, they are -8.5 against Argentina and we all know by now what the score is. So for basketball fans, this is a must see games, USA vs Australia.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Twinkledoe on August 03, 2021, 11:10:15 PM
My predictions for the semi final games are like this:

USA - Australia
France - Slovenia

I don't think that Australia would be able to resist to USA. Durant would probably be the player of the game again and USA would win it easily.
Australia is not an easy opponent and we know that team USA is not that strong because only Durant plays the best game so far and if they didn’t step up, Australia will have a chance to win though of course USA have more pride here after defeating a world champion Spain team, this is an exciting game. My prediction would be USA and FRANCE in the finals, that could be more fun.

I agree, Australia will be a tough battle for the US, I think they are also one of the favourites to win in this  Olympics. They are lead by Patty Mills, so this will be an interesting battle. They've so far covered the spread, they are -8.5 against Argentina and we all know by now what the score is. So for basketball fans, this is a must see games, USA vs Australia.

And if you got lucky, the odds for Australia is about 6.25 and betted on them. That would be a very handsome profit. Because betting on USA is not really worth it as the odds is only at 1.13. But of course, a lot are rooting for US here. We will see a very good battle inside the court.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: aioc on August 04, 2021, 01:10:36 AM


I agree, Australia will be a tough battle for the US, I think they are also one of the favourites to win in this  Olympics. They are lead by Patty Mills, so this will be an interesting battle. They've so far covered the spread, they are -8.5 against Argentina and we all know by now what the score is. So for basketball fans, this is a must see games, USA vs Australia.

Australia have beaten the US team in their exhibition match, although it's a good win and boosted their morale but it's no bearing now this is Olympic and the US team is now blending well and Keven Durant and the rest of the team are showing their deadly form outside, I see Australia as the highly motivated team here because they have not won a gold medal and this is their big chance.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: danherbias07 on August 04, 2021, 05:49:42 AM
I agree, Australia will be a tough battle for the US, I think they are also one of the favourites to win in this  Olympics. They are lead by Patty Mills, so this will be an interesting battle. They've so far covered the spread, they are -8.5 against Argentina and we all know by now what the score is. So for basketball fans, this is a must see games, USA vs Australia.
It's a blowout game for Argentina but that's because they made a big mess shooting outside without accuracy. Then, they just keep on losing the ball forcing the inside plays that was well defended by the Boomers.
But, I don't think it is still enough to win against USA. They already found their rhythm unlike their first 2 games. Durant is getting more comfortable with his outside shots. Pick and roll and ball rotation is better. Jrue Holiday again (Bucks) will be the key here if he can lock Patty Mills giving the Boomers a difficult time to find their offensive man.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Ratash on August 04, 2021, 10:07:10 AM
My predictions for the semi final games are like this:

USA - Australia
France - Slovenia

I don't think that Australia would be able to resist to USA. Durant would probably be the player of the game again and USA would win it easily.

When it comes to the other game, it's going to be really tough as both of these teams are very powerful. But I see Slovenia as one step ahead. I think that we will watch a very close game but Slovenia will be the winner at the end. I expect another great performance from Doncic and Dragic.
Yes i think so the usa and slovenia are both the favorable to pass but still australia team might cause them problems they are good and passed easily against argentina as for slovenia and france it will be tough for both but i will go with slovenia and i have a feeling that they can win even the gold medal.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Kasabus on August 04, 2021, 12:34:29 PM
My predictions for the semi final games are like this:

USA - Australia
France - Slovenia

I don't think that Australia would be able to resist to USA. Durant would probably be the player of the game again and USA would win it easily.

When it comes to the other game, it's going to be really tough as both of these teams are very powerful. But I see Slovenia as one step ahead. I think that we will watch a very close game but Slovenia will be the winner at the end. I expect another great performance from Doncic and Dragic.
Yes i think so the usa and slovenia are both the favorable to pass but still australia team might cause them problems they are good and passed easily against argentina as for slovenia and france it will be tough for both but i will go with slovenia and i have a feeling that they can win even the gold medal.

Let's see, but the biggest opponent of the USA now is France as they lose in the opening, so if USA will win and France will win, this will be a good battle for the Gold and personally, I would put my bet on France as I'm looking for an upset.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Reid on August 04, 2021, 04:04:22 PM
Let's see, but the biggest opponent of the USA now is France as they lose in the opening, so if USA will win and France will win, this will be a good battle for the Gold and personally, I would put my bet on France as I'm looking for an upset.
It's a different USA team now unlike how they played with France the first time.
I would not put that kind of history basis if you are really trying to bet for them.
First, they will have to go thru Slovenia and it will be a hell of a fight for that team ain't weak. Even if they try to defend Luka hard, the other players are stepping up like Dragic and Cancar.
If I am lucky I might win my bet for Slovenia as winners minus USA.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Yaunfitda on August 04, 2021, 04:08:26 PM
Let's see, but the biggest opponent of the USA now is France as they lose in the opening, so if USA will win and France will win, this will be a good battle for the Gold and personally, I would put my bet on France as I'm looking for an upset.
It's a different USA team now unlike how they played with France the first time.
I would not put that kind of history basis if you are really trying to bet for them.
First, they will have to go thru Slovenia and it will be a hell of a fight for that team ain't weak. Even if they try to defend Luka hard, the other players are stepping up like Dragic and Cancar.
If I am lucky I might win my bet for Slovenia as winners minus USA.
Base now on the betting odds, Slovenia is the slight favorite, so it's good if we can bet early to take advantage of the odds. It will be a close game definitely, we all know that even good defenders in NBA are having a hard time to contain Luka and he can also spot an open team mates. So most likely it will be USA vs Slovenia for the finals for me.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: TheGreatPython on August 04, 2021, 08:35:23 PM
Found nice image on FIBA page:
https://i.imgur.com/PT650k6.jpg
End of era of two legends. We enjoyed watching them playing for maybe 20 years. It's sad that this day come, but that's life
Awwww this is a very good picture :(. It just reminds me of the old days when they were both amazing. I remember just 5 years ago or so I was in a NBA2K league and played with people and Scola was one of my best bench players, he played a decent minute at PF for me and I usually put him on the corners because he was so smooth shooting from corner threes and it was so much fun because nobody expected that from 35 year old Scola but dude was a hidden gem that played at the wrong era, if he was a number four (even a center at the current situation because people play small ball) that would basically make him a very very wanted player at the current year.

Pau at least got the recognition he wanted, he could even be a HOF after a while as well and won two rings with Kobe so his career was awesome. Also Marc Gasol retired from international game as well with his brother, but he seems to be still considering another season at Lakers.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: CLS63 on August 04, 2021, 08:41:04 PM
It is a big day tomorrow. Because we are going to watch the semi-final games.

My favorite team in the game between USA and Australia are USA of course. It is quite obvious that they are extremely dominant here. I think that they (especially Durant) will crush Australia and qualify for the final round. And it wouldn't be surprising even a little to see them getting the gold medal also.

In the other game between France and Slovenia, I'm going to support Slovenia. Because they have a player who I have a big sympathy for, Luka Doncic.  ;D  And they have been performing really great so far. They haven't lost even a game for a very long time. This morale could help them defeat France also. But their job will be very hard.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: bisdak40 on August 04, 2021, 09:58:58 PM
My predictions for the semi final games are like this:

USA - Australia
France - Slovenia

I don't think that Australia would be able to resist to USA. Durant would probably be the player of the game again and USA would win it easily.

When it comes to the other game, it's going to be really tough as both of these teams are very powerful. But I see Slovenia as one step ahead. I think that we will watch a very close game but Slovenia will be the winner at the end. I expect another great performance from Doncic and Dragic.
Yes i think so the usa and slovenia are both the favorable to pass but still australia team might cause them problems they are good and passed easily against argentina as for slovenia and france it will be tough for both but i will go with slovenia and i have a feeling that they can win even the gold medal.

Team USA, whenever they play they will always be the favorite to win no matter how they played against Australia in the exhibition match. Australia will create some problems for KD and company but i expect US to win but not a lopsided one so my bet is Australia +11.5 @2.02 odds.

In the match between Slovenia and France, IMO the latter should be the favorite on this match but the bookies see the opposite maybe because Slovenia is on the roll with Luka on fire but still I'm putting my bet on France ML.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: goaldigger on August 04, 2021, 10:15:11 PM
My predictions for the semi final games are like this:

USA - Australia
France - Slovenia

I don't think that Australia would be able to resist to USA. Durant would probably be the player of the game again and USA would win it easily.

When it comes to the other game, it's going to be really tough as both of these teams are very powerful. But I see Slovenia as one step ahead. I think that we will watch a very close game but Slovenia will be the winner at the end. I expect another great performance from Doncic and Dragic.
Yes i think so the usa and slovenia are both the favorable to pass but still australia team might cause them problems they are good and passed easily against argentina as for slovenia and france it will be tough for both but i will go with slovenia and i have a feeling that they can win even the gold medal.

Team USA, whenever they play they will always be the favorite to win no matter how they played against Australia in the exhibition match. Australia will create some problems for KD and company but i expect US to win but not a lopsided one so my bet is Australia +11.5 @2.02 odds.

In the match between Slovenia and France, IMO the latter should be the favorite on this match but the bookies see the opposite maybe because Slovenia is on the roll with Luka on fire but still I'm putting my bet on France ML.
That’s because Basketball is their main core and that’s why many believes USA should dominate this sports but this time they are not that strong though we can still expect them in the finals but not an easy road for them, Australia is a team to beat, they should be more aware of this. Yes, France will also win despite of Luka presence they are strong enough to beat Slovenia.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: jakdanyel on August 04, 2021, 10:23:45 PM
This morning, we are going to have a wonderful game between USA and Australia. If it wasn't too early in my local time, then I would really like to watch this one. But I see it as very obvious that USA will just destroy their opponent with a big effort. I'm curious about Durant's performance. I guess he would score 25+ points.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Dave1 on August 05, 2021, 01:48:01 AM
This morning, we are going to have a wonderful game between USA and Australia. If it wasn't too early in my local time, then I would really like to watch this one. But I see it as very obvious that USA will just destroy their opponent with a big effort. I'm curious about Durant's performance. I guess he would score 25+ points.

I'm not sure if US can "destroy" Australia here. Australia is a very good team because it also boosted with NBA stars. So if ever US will win, it's going to be a close match, so I'm not sure if US can cover the odds of -11.5 currently. Sharing my bet on the US vs Spain last game:

https://i.imgur.com/Jh0Z8gU.png

So I will go with the same bet, +11.5 @1.94.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Reid on August 05, 2021, 02:57:20 AM
I'm not sure if US can "destroy" Australia here. Australia is a very good team because it also boosted with NBA stars. So if ever US will win, it's going to be a close match, so I'm not sure if US can cover the odds of -11.5 currently. Sharing my bet on the US vs Spain last game:

https://i.imgur.com/Jh0Z8gU.png

So I will go with the same bet, +11.5 @1.94.
For me, they can. I will take the highest risk at -13.5 for USA.
It's not that I don't trust Australia but in terms of backup players, we know the USA has a lot of players available that they can use while their best players are having their rest.
Matisse Thybulle will be assigned with KD but no one can really defend that dude.
Jrue Holiday will try to stop Patty Mills with his speed and height advantage. Australia's high-performance game will be their clutch to win the semis. 


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Harkorede on August 05, 2021, 03:03:20 AM
I'm not sure if US can "destroy" Australia here. Australia is a very good team because it also boosted with NBA stars. So if ever US will win, it's going to be a close match, so I'm not sure if US can cover the odds of -11.5 currently. Sharing my bet on the US vs Spain last game:

https://i.imgur.com/Jh0Z8gU.png

So I will go with the same bet, +11.5 @1.94.
For me, they can. I will take the highest risk at -13.5 for USA.
It's not that I don't trust Australia but in terms of backup players, we know the USA has a lot of players available that they can use while their best players are having their rest.
Matisse Thybulle will be assigned with KD but no one can really defend that dude.
Jrue Holiday will try to stop Patty Mills with his speed and height advantage. Australia's high-performance game will be their clutch to win the semis. 

I'm also the opinion that USA will remain unstoppable in today's game vs Australia, and it's going to take more than just a bad day in the office for Australia to cause an upset, KD would probably set the pace of the game.

I'm going with Team USA -11.5


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: famososMuertos on August 05, 2021, 04:07:31 AM
..//...as very obvious that USA will just destroy their opponent with a big effort. ...//...:
Hi,

I do not think it is the most appropriate adjective but, Yes, the USA wins its right to dispute the "assured" gold medal even if in the other game a surprise happens and it has to face the Ghost of France...

Anyway, Australia is going to playing  a good game because it has good team and two players who play in the NBA, one that I do not forget never "Ingles"

So I think everything is written, only to watching good encounters, no surprises, please teams, thank you.  :)

Edit:
Live broadcast:
https://www.nbcolympics.com/

One of many that there are but by region availability this could work for some. Certain conditions apply.



Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: TravelMug on August 05, 2021, 04:14:27 AM
..//...as very obvious that USA will just destroy their opponent with a big effort. ...//...:
Hi,

I do not think it is the most appropriate adjective but, Yes, the USA wins its right to dispute the "assured" gold medal even if in the other game a surprise happens and it has to face the Ghost of France...

Anyway, Australia is going to playing  a good game because it has good team and two players who play in the NBA, one that I do not forget never "Ingles"

So I think everything is written, only to watching good encounters, no surprises, please teams, thank you.  :)


I'm sure that there will be no surprises, USA is expected to win against the Boomers, maybe we only need to know what will be the lead, if they can cover the -11.5 spread on them.

No disrespect to Australians, they have a solid team this year and they have beaten team US if I'm not mistaken twice already in an exhibition match. But this is different, US team and coaches are hone it right now and looking to extend their dominance on basketball with a win here.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: btc_angela on August 05, 2021, 04:23:44 AM
I'm not sure if US can "destroy" Australia here. Australia is a very good team because it also boosted with NBA stars. So if ever US will win, it's going to be a close match, so I'm not sure if US can cover the odds of -11.5 currently. Sharing my bet on the US vs Spain last game:

https://i.imgur.com/Jh0Z8gU.png

So I will go with the same bet, +11.5 @1.94.
For me, they can. I will take the highest risk at -13.5 for USA.
It's not that I don't trust Australia but in terms of backup players, we know the USA has a lot of players available that they can use while their best players are having their rest.
Matisse Thybulle will be assigned with KD but no one can really defend that dude.
Jrue Holiday will try to stop Patty Mills with his speed and height advantage. Australia's high-performance game will be their clutch to win the semis. 

I'm also the opinion that USA will remain unstoppable in today's game vs Australia, and it's going to take more than just a bad day in the office for Australia to cause an upset, KD would probably set the pace of the game.

I'm going with Team USA -11.5

Exactly, I will also go with Team USA here, Durant is just peaking at the right time, during the eliminations many has question the team, specially Durant with his bad shooting. But now him and other team USA is on the peak, and we all know that if they blend, it's hard to stop this stars. One might have a bad night, but there could be someone that can spark the team. No one can guard KD on the Australian side. They really need to have a perfect plan to beat Team USA.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Fredomago on August 05, 2021, 05:29:23 AM

Exactly, I will also go with Team USA here, Durant is just peaking at the right time, during the eliminations many has question the team, specially Durant with his bad shooting. But now him and other team USA is on the peak, and we all know that if they blend, it's hard to stop this stars. One might have a bad night, but there could be someone that can spark the team. No one can guard KD on the Australian side. They really need to have a perfect plan to beat Team USA.

It's really tough as Aussie still hanging it's now  9 point lead by the team US, third quarter now and KD is again leading team US
in this game, still have a lots of time if Aussie will try to push this game.

But if they'll not find a good blend for sure team US will take this as Booker and Holiday is also taking their own individualities.

One more quarter to come after this 2 minutes, still impressive for team US they hanging from that 9 point deficit.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: danherbias07 on August 05, 2021, 06:05:58 AM
It's just the first half win for the Aussies. After it was cut to a small deficit they didn't have the chance to take it back. Booker, Durant, and Tatum combined was too much for them raining with outside shots. But I think Coach Pop and Steve Kerr is still mad at the first half results. If USA will play against France/Slovenia they cannot start like that. Their engines should be on fire already from the beginning or else they will lose it. At the last minutes of the game I can still see some sloppiness from them. Some broken passes and missing lay-ups. It could've been a 30 point lead at the end.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: cashfairy on August 05, 2021, 09:08:04 AM

Slovenia vs France about to begin
cant decide
i see 2019 WC was bad for Slovenia while France was doing good
current session both are great




Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on August 05, 2021, 10:49:25 AM

Slovenia vs France about to begin
cant decide
i see 2019 WC was bad for Slovenia while France was doing good
current session both are great


Why not go for the favorite which is Slovenia unless you are from France?

Slovenia are the odds favorite because of Luka. I put a small bet on Slovenia -2.5 and hopefully they can cover the spread. I know that France is very strong as well, but Luka has been taking his NBA style of play into the Olympics. But Slovenia's offense is very fluid thanks to Luka. France though has Gobert, the reigning defensive player of the year, but I think Slovenia will opt more on outside shot in this game.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Kelvinid on August 05, 2021, 10:53:47 AM

Slovenia vs France about to begin
cant decide
i see 2019 WC was bad for Slovenia while France was doing good
current session both are great


Why not go for the favorite which is Slovenia unless you are from France?

Slovenia are the odds favorite because of Luka. I put a small bet on Slovenia -2.5 and hopefully they can cover the spread. I know that France is very strong as well, but Luka has been taking his NBA style of play into the Olympics. But Slovenia's offense is very fluid thanks to Luka. France though has Gobert, the reigning defensive player of the year, but I think Slovenia will opt more on outside shot in this game.

Nice game, this should be a close game, France has proven that they are a strong team by beating the USA, so I think even if they are the underdog here, I will still on them to win. No need to take the point spread for me, I'll go with France for straight-up win, I have 2.38 them winning, good luck.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Sanitough on August 05, 2021, 11:53:50 AM

Slovenia vs France about to begin
cant decide
i see 2019 WC was bad for Slovenia while France was doing good
current session both are great


Why not go for the favorite which is Slovenia unless you are from France?

Slovenia are the odds favorite because of Luka. I put a small bet on Slovenia -2.5 and hopefully they can cover the spread. I know that France is very strong as well, but Luka has been taking his NBA style of play into the Olympics. But Slovenia's offense is very fluid thanks to Luka. France though has Gobert, the reigning defensive player of the year, but I think Slovenia will opt more on outside shot in this game.

Nice game, this should be a close game, France has proven that they are a strong team by beating the USA, so I think even if they are the underdog here, I will still on them to win. No need to take the point spread for me, I'll go with France for straight-up win, I have 2.38 them winning, good luck.

Slovenia started well but France was able to come back and cut the lead to only 2after the first half.

France is +3.5 now in my book, they might win here or cover the spread, good luck to us guys.
I'm happy watching this fight as it turns out as what I expected it to be.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: cashfairy on August 05, 2021, 12:09:14 PM

Slovenia vs France about to begin
cant decide
i see 2019 WC was bad for Slovenia while France was doing good
current session both are great


Why not go for the favorite which is Slovenia unless you are from France?

Slovenia are the odds favorite because of Luka. I put a small bet on Slovenia -2.5 and hopefully they can cover the spread. I know that France is very strong as well, but Luka has been taking his NBA style of play into the Olympics. But Slovenia's offense is very fluid thanks to Luka. France though has Gobert, the reigning defensive player of the year, but I think Slovenia will opt more on outside shot in this game.

Nice game, this should be a close game, France has proven that they are a strong team by beating the USA, so I think even if they are the underdog here, I will still on them to win. No need to take the point spread for me, I'll go with France for straight-up win, I have 2.38 them winning, good luck.

Slovenia started well but France was able to come back and cut the lead to only 2after the first half.

France is +3.5 now in my book, they might win here or cover the spread, good luck to us guys.
I'm happy watching this fight as it turns out as what I expected it to be.

placed bet on France moneyline on HT break
i liked numerous blocks of France in game stats




Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Ziskinberg on August 05, 2021, 12:14:20 PM

Slovenia vs France about to begin
cant decide
i see 2019 WC was bad for Slovenia while France was doing good
current session both are great


Why not go for the favorite which is Slovenia unless you are from France?

Slovenia are the odds favorite because of Luka. I put a small bet on Slovenia -2.5 and hopefully they can cover the spread. I know that France is very strong as well, but Luka has been taking his NBA style of play into the Olympics. But Slovenia's offense is very fluid thanks to Luka. France though has Gobert, the reigning defensive player of the year, but I think Slovenia will opt more on outside shot in this game.

Nice game, this should be a close game, France has proven that they are a strong team by beating the USA, so I think even if they are the underdog here, I will still on them to win. No need to take the point spread for me, I'll go with France for straight-up win, I have 2.38 them winning, good luck.

Slovenia started well but France was able to come back and cut the lead to only 2after the first half.

France is +3.5 now in my book, they might win here or cover the spread, good luck to us guys.
I'm happy watching this fight as it turns out as what I expected it to be.

placed bet on France moneyline on HT break
i liked numerous blocks of France in game stats




Looks like they are winning this game, they are on the lead now by 9 points, they have a good 3rd quarter run and I think it will continue in the 4th of iff not, at least they'll have a comfortable lead going to the 4th quarter.

score now 67-58, France leading.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: dwyane36 on August 05, 2021, 12:50:25 PM
It was a really close game, but it looks like Doncic had a bad performance during this match, considering that he scored only 5 out of 18 field goals. Anyway, congrats to everyone who bet on France to win this match. So France and the USA are in the final, and I guess the USA will win gold medals again.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: danherbias07 on August 05, 2021, 12:55:22 PM
What a sad moment for the Slovenia team. They did great and the game was really tight that they had the chance to win it.
But Batum, he won it with his specialty, his defensive awareness and a game winning block. We don't see it happen a lot of times, mostly in NBA only.
i.e. Lebron block, Iguodala, Ginobili.
That was fun though, real exciting game with a lot of passion. Slovenia still has a chance to win the bronze medal and that will be their first medal in Basketball Men.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Kasabus on August 05, 2021, 12:58:06 PM
What a sad moment for the Slovenia team. They did great and the game was really tight that they had the chance to win it.
But Batum, he won it with his specialty, his defensive awareness and a game winning block. We don't see it happen a lot of times, mostly in NBA only.
i.e. Lebron block, Iguodala, Ginobili.
That was fun though, real exciting game. Slovenia still has a chance to win the bronze medal and that will be their first medal in Basketball Men.
Slovenia had a strong comeback in the 4th quarter but they fell short. So now, we will again see the first game (FRANCE vs USA), it's a rematch and I like this one since France had proven they did not win by luck alone, I'm sure they will still give a problem to the USA, so let's back the FRANCE to win the spread.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: tippytoes on August 05, 2021, 01:09:51 PM
It was a really close game, but it looks like Doncic had a bad performance during this match, considering that he scored only 5 out of 18 field goals. Anyway, congrats to everyone who bet on France to win this match. So France and the USA are in the final, and I guess the USA will win gold medals again.

That was really close. Betted on Slovenia here, no hard feelings though as I only betted small. More than likely, the odds for USA is very low so don't know if it will be worth to bet on them. Let us see what odds will be given to France by bookies. If you are a risk taker, you can bet on France, who knows for some reason, they will beat USA?  ;)


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: freedomgo on August 05, 2021, 01:20:06 PM
It was a really close game, but it looks like Doncic had a bad performance during this match, considering that he scored only 5 out of 18 field goals. Anyway, congrats to everyone who bet on France to win this match. So France and the USA are in the final, and I guess the USA will win gold medals again.

That was really close. Betted on Slovenia here, no hard feelings though as I only betted small. More than likely, the odds for USA is very low so don't know if it will be worth to bet on them. Let us see what odds will be given to France by bookies. If you are a risk taker, you can bet on France, who knows for some reason, they will beat USA?  ;)

That block was the highlight of the game, Slovenia could have won that game despite having an injured Luka. This FRANCE vs USA rematch is interesting, I'm sure France will still be the underdog, if we can't trust them to win, I think it's good to gamble on them through the handicap.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: bisdak40 on August 05, 2021, 01:35:17 PM
It was a really close game, but it looks like Doncic had a bad performance during this match, considering that he scored only 5 out of 18 field goals. Anyway, congrats to everyone who bet on France to win this match. So France and the USA are in the final, and I guess the USA will win gold medals again.

That was really close. Betted on Slovenia here, no hard feelings though as I only betted small. More than likely, the odds for USA is very low so don't know if it will be worth to bet on them. Let us see what odds will be given to France by bookies. If you are a risk taker, you can bet on France, who knows for some reason, they will beat USA?  ;)

That block was the highlight of the game, Slovenia could have won that game despite having an injured Luka. This FRANCE vs USA rematch is interesting, I'm sure France will still be the underdog, if we can't trust them to win, I think it's good to gamble on them through the handicap.

Almost regret why I did not take spread by fortunately that block save the day for me lol. Good game though as both teams deserve to be in the Finals, it's just that the breaks of the game went to France.

Team USA is a more dangerous team now in the Finals, not like in the exhibition match so i will be rooting for them whatever the spread.

https://i.imgur.com/cvICwXt.jpg


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Hypnosis00 on August 05, 2021, 01:39:38 PM
It was a really close game, but it looks like Doncic had a bad performance during this match, considering that he scored only 5 out of 18 field goals. Anyway, congrats to everyone who bet on France to win this match. So France and the USA are in the final, and I guess the USA will win gold medals again.

That was really close. Betted on Slovenia here, no hard feelings though as I only betted small. More than likely, the odds for USA is very low so don't know if it will be worth to bet on them. Let us see what odds will be given to France by bookies. If you are a risk taker, you can bet on France, who knows for some reason, they will beat USA?  ;)

That block was the highlight of the game, Slovenia could have won that game despite having an injured Luka. This FRANCE vs USA rematch is interesting, I'm sure France will still be the underdog, if we can't trust them to win, I think it's good to gamble on them through the handicap.

Almost regret why I did not take spread by fortunately that block save the day for me lol. Good game though as both teams deserve to be in the Finals, it's just that the breaks of the game went to France.

Team USA is a more dangerous team now in the Finals, not like in the exhibition match so i will be rooting for them whatever the spread.

https://i.imgur.com/cvICwXt.jpg

Congrats, that's a good win, big odds.

Luka was 16-0, now the streak is over. It's France vs USA.

There are no betting odds yet but most likely the spread will be -10 to -12 for team USA, and I think it's still a good handicap since USA has been winning by big margin in the past games.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: rhomelmabini on August 05, 2021, 01:51:55 PM
It was a really close game, but it looks like Doncic had a bad performance during this match, considering that he scored only 5 out of 18 field goals. Anyway, congrats to everyone who bet on France to win this match. So France and the USA are in the final, and I guess the USA will win gold medals again.

That was really close. Betted on Slovenia here, no hard feelings though as I only betted small. More than likely, the odds for USA is very low so don't know if it will be worth to bet on them. Let us see what odds will be given to France by bookies. If you are a risk taker, you can bet on France, who knows for some reason, they will beat USA?  ;)

That block was the highlight of the game, Slovenia could have won that game despite having an injured Luka. This FRANCE vs USA rematch is interesting, I'm sure France will still be the underdog, if we can't trust them to win, I think it's good to gamble on them through the handicap.

Almost regret why I did not take spread by fortunately that block save the day for me lol. Good game though as both teams deserve to be in the Finals, it's just that the breaks of the game went to France.

Team USA is a more dangerous team now in the Finals, not like in the exhibition match so i will be rooting for them whatever the spread.

https://i.imgur.com/cvICwXt.jpg

Congrats, that's a good win, big odds.

Luka was 16-0, now the streak is over. It's France vs USA.

There are no betting odds yet but most likely the spread will be -10 to -12 for team USA, and I think it's still a good handicap since USA has been winning by big margin in the past games.
Now that's something exciting to be honest but I guess the momentum goes to USA this time with their consecutive win. Luka may loss this game but he just made history for that assists he made as second-most in Olympic contests. I'd bet USA will be favorite from here on out.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: casperBGD on August 05, 2021, 01:53:52 PM
~snip

There are no betting odds yet but most likely the spread will be -10 to -12 for team USA, and I think it's still a good handicap since USA has been winning by big margin in the past games.

it is hard to beat same opponent two times on the same competition, even if you are better, and it is especially hard, if you are a weaker opponent, as France obviously is, compared to USA, so the gold will probably go to USA, and silver to France
great match, Slovenia gives their best, but simply was not enough to win over France team, congrats to both teams for reaching semi-final
Doncic needs one more player in their team, that could decrease pressure on him


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: acquafredda on August 05, 2021, 01:58:21 PM
Team USA beats Australia 97-78 and flies to the final for the gold, where the americans will meet France. For USA, this is the fourth consecutive Olympic final.
France defeated Slovenia 90-89. A dominant performance by Doncic, literally devastating during individual penetrations and with his 3-points average, as well as through enlightening assists was not enough to win against the French.
USA - France sounds like any easy game to predict but will it be?


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Reid on August 05, 2021, 02:33:08 PM
it is hard to beat same opponent two times on the same competition, even if you are better, and it is especially hard, if you are a weaker opponent, as France obviously is, compared to USA, so the gold will probably go to USA, and silver to France
great match, Slovenia gives their best, but simply was not enough to win over France team, congrats to both teams for reaching semi-final
Doncic needs one more player in their team, that could decrease pressure on him
There is a weakness that can be seen in daylight with France. Lack of good bench players.
Gobert needs rest but the rules in the Olympics are strict when it comes to timeouts. 1 minute is one minute no more, no less.
Without anyone to hold the USA, they will absolutely take the lead.
The close game against Slovenia was the proof of it. Just 1 point win with almost a snatch if ever that lay-up was not blocked by Nicolas Batum.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: jakdanyel on August 05, 2021, 02:33:33 PM
We had two great games in the semi finals today.

It wasn't very surprising to see USA destroying Australia 97-78. USA are just too strong against every club in this tournament. I liked Durant's performance really much again. He just doesn't give a break.  ;D

When it comes to France - Slovenia, I think this was the most delightful game of the day. It was a very close and competitive game we had. France hardly managed to win 90-89 at the end. I really liked Doncic's performance (16 pts, 10 reb, 18 ast) in this game but they couldn't be the winner.

This Saturday, we are going to have the final and the game for the 3rd place. France beat USA in the last two head-to-heads. They have the power to do it again. But I feel like USA will win this crucial game and win the tournament as well.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: LTU_btc on August 05, 2021, 03:04:22 PM
Slovenia - France was really great game, despite of referees who made somw questionable calls. Doncic made triple double, 18 assists is insane number, but it wasn't his day at all, he missed a lot of shots. On last attack Slovenia did everything right, but that Batum block was iconic.
Australia started game very well, and were leading by 15 points at one point. USA defense was a joke, and in attack there was no ball movement and only individual actions. But things changed after USA timeout in 2nd quarter. And it was impossible to stop Durant again.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: ChiBitCTy on August 05, 2021, 03:14:03 PM
A great win for USA basketball, I was certainly worried about them due to their sluggish start but it looks like they are really starting to gel and I would have a very hard time believing that they won't be bringing home the gold.  I have to give it up to Kevin Durant as well.  I love that this is his third Olympics and that he is absolutely dominating the world.  I figured he wanted to be "the man" on this team and he sure has been showing it. 


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: ingiltere on August 05, 2021, 03:39:19 PM
Even though he did everything, the golden dream is over for Luka Dončić and co. It was such a dramatic finish and a lot of controversies happened in the game. Officiating was pretty bad for both sides. I was expecting a close game but not that close. ;D Batum blocked Prepelič when 2 seconds left, who would've thought an ending like that? Feels bad for Slovenians but France end up in finals and they will have another game against USA.
USA reached finals effortlessly as expected. This finals will be too hyped, as France beat USA in group stage. This time it will be very different though, this is gold medal combat.

That moment:
https://i.imgur.com/T9f0qim.jpg
Photo Source: Reuters / Charlie Neibergall


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Yamifoud on August 05, 2021, 03:54:28 PM
Nicolas Batum showed good sportsmanship.

 “Nicolas Batum told me he hates playing against me”: Luka Doncic calls the France star a ‘class act’ following Slovenia defeat at Tokyo 2020 (https://thesportsrush.com/nba-news-nicolas-batum-told-me-he-hates-playing-against-me-luka-doncic-calls-the-france-star-a-class-act-following-slovenia-defeat-at-tokyo-2020/)
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Luka Doncic shows his admiration for Nicolas Batum after France defeats Slovenia to advance to face off against USA and calls Batum a ‘class act’.
Luka Doncic and his perfect streak of being undefeated in international play has officially ended after Slovenia fell to France, 90-89. France will now advance to face off against Team USA in a bout that will decide who wins Gold at Tokyo 2020 while Slovenia will square off against Patty Mills and the Boomers in a game that will settle who wins Bronze.

The entirety of the Slovenia-France game saw Luka Doncic dominate in an extremely Luka-eque way. Though he merely shot 5-18 from the field, the shots he made were reminiscent of the ones he drains while on the Mavericks: step-back, high arcing shots from beyond the arc. However, the story of the night for Doncic was his playmaking.

Luka feels bad but with this kind of opponent, it will ease what he feels and the entire team as well.
They will come back next Olympics, Luka is still young, hopefully he is fully healthy that time.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: wheelz1200 on August 05, 2021, 04:11:56 PM
Even though he did everything, the golden dream is over for Luka Dončić and co. It was such a dramatic finish and a lot of controversies happened in the game. Officiating was pretty bad for both sides. I was expecting a close game but not that close. ;D Batum blocked Prepelič when 2 seconds left, who would've thought an ending like that? Feels bad for Slovenians but France end up in finals and they will have another game against USA.
USA reached finals effortlessly as expected. This finals will be too hyped, as France beat USA in group stage. This time it will be very different though, this is gold medal combat.

That moment:
https://i.imgur.com/T9f0qim.jpg
Photo Source: Reuters / Charlie Neibergall

Yeah France is going to give them fits but the way US are playing right now it's going to be a tough go for France this time around.  US playing better as a team and with gold in the picture you are going to get everyone's A game.  As Durant and Lillard go so will the US, Durant needs a 30 pt dominating game from him.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Baofeng on August 05, 2021, 04:55:45 PM
^^ Chase down blocked,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc97zwVgzfk

It will be a good show for the finals, although France beat USA, but that doesn't mean anything.

USA has blend so well now, Booker finding his range and so is the two NBA champions, Holiday and Middleton, and of course Kevin Durant as their leader.

USA -11.5 = 1.83
ML = 1.12


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Natalim on August 05, 2021, 05:03:36 PM

USA -11.5 = 1.83
ML = 1.12

Is this the same odds when they first played and USA lose?
I'm wondering what sportsbook you are using, I like to verify the odds and might my bet as early as possible on France to cover the point spread and probably to win as well. Why I'm doing it? because ML odds for USA is boring, I can't risk my $100 for $1.12 only. 


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: carlisle1 on August 05, 2021, 05:09:01 PM
Nicolas Batum showed good sportsmanship.

 “Nicolas Batum told me he hates playing against me”: Luka Doncic calls the France star a ‘class act’ following Slovenia defeat at Tokyo 2020 (https://thesportsrush.com/nba-news-nicolas-batum-told-me-he-hates-playing-against-me-luka-doncic-calls-the-france-star-a-class-act-following-slovenia-defeat-at-tokyo-2020/)
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Luka Doncic shows his admiration for Nicolas Batum after France defeats Slovenia to advance to face off against USA and calls Batum a ‘class act’.
Luka Doncic and his perfect streak of being undefeated in international play has officially ended after Slovenia fell to France, 90-89. France will now advance to face off against Team USA in a bout that will decide who wins Gold at Tokyo 2020 while Slovenia will square off against Patty Mills and the Boomers in a game that will settle who wins Bronze.

The entirety of the Slovenia-France game saw Luka Doncic dominate in an extremely Luka-eque way. Though he merely shot 5-18 from the field, the shots he made were reminiscent of the ones he drains while on the Mavericks: step-back, high arcing shots from beyond the arc. However, the story of the night for Doncic was his playmaking.

Luka feels bad but with this kind of opponent, it will ease what he feels and the entire team as well.
They will come back next Olympics, Luka is still young, hopefully he is fully healthy that time.
Luka indeed still young and the chance for this country to take home the silver or a chance for gold still possible,

Still can't believe that lost I'm eyeing for Luka to advance to the finals and face he's co-superstars (team US),
but that's life luck didn't back them up and that Batum block that's really an amazing one, it will remembered.

France VS Team US what a great faceoff, Gold medal  awaits to the winning team!


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Harkorede on August 05, 2021, 05:15:22 PM
It was a really close game, but it looks like Doncic had a bad performance during this match, considering that he scored only 5 out of 18 field goals. Anyway, congrats to everyone who bet on France to win this match. So France and the USA are in the final, and I guess the USA will win gold medals again.

That was really close. Betted on Slovenia here, no hard feelings though as I only betted small. More than likely, the odds for USA is very low so don't know if it will be worth to bet on them. Let us see what odds will be given to France by bookies. If you are a risk taker, you can bet on France, who knows for some reason, they will beat USA?  ;)

That block was the highlight of the game, Slovenia could have won that game despite having an injured Luka. This FRANCE vs USA rematch is interesting, I'm sure France will still be the underdog, if we can't trust them to win, I think it's good to gamble on them through the handicap.

Almost regret why I did not take spread by fortunately that block save the day for me lol. Good game though as both teams deserve to be in the Finals, it's just that the breaks of the game went to France.

Team USA is a more dangerous team now in the Finals, not like in the exhibition match so i will be rooting for them whatever the spread.

https://i.imgur.com/cvICwXt.jpg

Congrats, that's a good win, big odds.

Luka was 16-0, now the streak is over. It's France vs USA.

There are no betting odds yet but most likely the spread will be -10 to -12 for team USA, and I think it's still a good handicap since USA has been winning by big margin in the past games.

The game between USA vs Australia would have seemed like an easy bet if one the watch the game, but USA really made it look easy after trailing by 15 points at some point during the first half, but they can change the game regardless of the deficit within the twinkle of an eye.

There is no stopping USA from the gold medal, I was anticipating a Slovenia vs USA final, but it really doesn't matter who their opponent is.. It should be a sweet USA revenge for the opening game.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: el kaka22 on August 05, 2021, 07:43:29 PM
Honestly France definitely deserved the game BUT doncic is just insane, dude is just insane, he is by far the best player I have seen at that age, I do not remember any player who was as good as him at that age, sure Lebron and MJ were THAT good, MJ had a huge injury at 22 but when he came back at 23 he had 37 ppg on a season where whole chicago scored 104 points per game, so dude scored more than 35% of their points all by himself.

Lebron is once again Lebron, we all know him, same with Kobe. But can you realize just who we are talking about? I am comparing this 22 year kid with players who are considered the best ever in history of basketball, that is how good Doncic plays. And right now he was just one missed block away from going to finals, his first ever lost in 30+ games for his national team as well. I congratulate France and I am feeling sooo excited about Doncic.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: wheelz1200 on August 05, 2021, 09:18:17 PM

USA -11.5 = 1.83
ML = 1.12

Is this the same odds when they first played and USA lose?
I'm wondering what sportsbook you are using, I like to verify the odds and might my bet as early as possible on France to cover the point spread and probably to win as well. Why I'm doing it? because ML odds for USA is boring, I can't risk my $100 for $1.12 only. 

Agreed betting US at those odds just aren't worth it.  Will they lose, probably not but waste a possible hundred with just getting $12 in return.  Risk reward just isn't there.  The point spread might be the best thing to bet here.  If I had to bet one side with the current odds I would bet on the US tough to bet against them right now.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Fredomago on August 05, 2021, 09:25:44 PM

USA -11.5 = 1.83
ML = 1.12

Is this the same odds when they first played and USA lose?
I'm wondering what sportsbook you are using, I like to verify the odds and might my bet as early as possible on France to cover the point spread and probably to win as well. Why I'm doing it? because ML odds for USA is boring, I can't risk my $100 for $1.12 only. 

Agreed betting US at those odds just aren't worth it.  Will they lose, probably not but waste a possible hundred with just getting $12 in return.  Risk reward just isn't there.  The point spread might be the best thing to bet here.  If I had to bet one side with the current odds I would bet on the US tough to bet against them right now.

They are more composed by now unlike the first time that they've met, the rotations and the aggressiveness of each players inside the court is more sronger now.

But like both of you taking ML is not good risking huge amount of money  in hope of increasing it by 12%, handicap might work but waiting for the live event may give some better looks betting against this two countries.

The quest for gold still near for US squad, it depends now from how they'll going to complete it.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: bisdak40 on August 05, 2021, 09:34:19 PM
^^ Chase down blocked,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc97zwVgzfk

It will be a good show for the finals, although France beat USA, but that doesn't mean anything.

USA has blend so well now, Booker finding his range and so is the two NBA champions, Holiday and Middleton, and of course Kevin Durant as their leader.

USA -11.5 = 1.83
ML = 1.12

Good offensive setup by Slovenia but a better defense that time by France  :), that's the break of the game that cost them the silver medal as the gold belongs to the USA team this time hehe.

Though I worry about the length and defense of Gobert but i do believe that KD and the rest of the team could figure it out how to escape long hands so US -11.5 @1.83 is very attractive AFAIC.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: gagux123 on August 06, 2021, 01:14:47 AM
Guys, I can't believe it, I was convinced Slovenia will beat France.
We cannot deny that it was an excellent and disputed game. In my opinion Luka doesn't play very good, including 2-9 (3 points) I'm surprised!

I don't know, but I believe the USA has more chances to beating France in the finals than Slovenia, Luka is one of the few players in these Olympics who "can dominate" some USA players.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: goaldigger on August 06, 2021, 02:25:02 AM
Guys, I can't believe it, I was convinced Slovenia will beat France.
We cannot deny that it was an excellent and disputed game. In my opinion Luka doesn't play very good, including 2-9 (3 points) I'm surprised!

I don't know, but I believe the USA has more chances to beating France in the finals than Slovenia, Luka is one of the few players in these Olympics who "can dominate" some USA players.
This is expected actually, France is indeed a good team who played very well against Slovenia, and as expected they'll face USA in the finals. Doncic did his best but still fell short, they can still have a match between Australia for the Bronze medal, they'll surely win.

France already won against USA on their first meet up so they have a better chance to beat USA again but we should not under estimate USA because they are a good team as well and they are more veterans who always played for the gold over the past Olympics. This is an exciting match, I'll still go for USA this time.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Dave1 on August 06, 2021, 02:30:32 AM
Guys, I can't believe it, I was convinced Slovenia will beat France.
We cannot deny that it was an excellent and disputed game. In my opinion Luka doesn't play very good, including 2-9 (3 points) I'm surprised!

I don't know, but I believe the USA has more chances to beating France in the finals than Slovenia, Luka is one of the few players in these Olympics who "can dominate" some USA players.

Yeah, I thought that it will be Slovenia vs US in the finals, and I take a L on both games.

The thing with Luka though is that he has a bad shooting night because France defenders put a physical on him. Nevertheless, the finals between USA and France will be good, Gobert and Batum will have to carry France in both defense and offense. But we all know that team USA has a lot of players that can shoot and take the game so it will be very though for France to win against USA.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: robelneo on August 06, 2021, 02:54:48 AM

This is expected actually, France is indeed a good team who played very well against Slovenia, and as expected they'll face USA in the finals. Doncic did his best but still fell short, they can still have a match between Australia for the Bronze medal, they'll surely win.

France already won against USA on their first meet up so they have a better chance to beat USA again but we should not under estimate USA because they are a good team as well and they are more veterans who always played for the gold over the past Olympics. This is an exciting match, I'll still go for USA this time.

I have doubts about the US team campaign early on but after their good showing after their loss to France, and how they blend I think the US team can match France talents, it's going to be a very good match in the finals and it can go either way, for me, their first match has no bearing anymore on their coming match, the NBA veterans hopefully will blend their individual's talent and comes out with a good play.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Kyraishi on August 06, 2021, 04:11:15 AM
Great win by France, Nicholas Batum is really a key piece for them.

Tough loss by Australia as well. Up by 15 in the second quarter and managed to blow that lead and lose by nearly 20 - but I guess that just shows you the dominance of the U.S. team.

For U.S. vs France though, I'd still back France given that they have beaten the US before and they are definitely the more team oriented team. We've seen how badly the US can play together - it's like they are a bunch of individuals instead of a cohesive group.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: TravelMug on August 06, 2021, 04:13:01 AM

This is expected actually, France is indeed a good team who played very well against Slovenia, and as expected they'll face USA in the finals. Doncic did his best but still fell short, they can still have a match between Australia for the Bronze medal, they'll surely win.

France already won against USA on their first meet up so they have a better chance to beat USA again but we should not under estimate USA because they are a good team as well and they are more veterans who always played for the gold over the past Olympics. This is an exciting match, I'll still go for USA this time.

I have doubts about the US team campaign early on but after their good showing after their loss to France, and how they blend I think the US team can match France talents, it's going to be a very good match in the finals and it can go either way, for me, their first match has no bearing anymore on their coming match, the NBA veterans hopefully will blend their individual's talent and comes out with a good play.

Yes, on the contrary, that "big" lost against France was really a wake up call for them, so they started to work their chemistry and blending. And we really see that they struggle after that lost, but eventually the puzzle fall into pieces and right now they are still the favourite to win against France, but it will not be an easy win because France has talent and have NBA players in their rosters.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Natalim on August 06, 2021, 05:00:16 AM

USA -11.5 = 1.83
ML = 1.12

Is this the same odds when they first played and USA lose?
I'm wondering what sportsbook you are using, I like to verify the odds and might my bet as early as possible on France to cover the point spread and probably to win as well. Why I'm doing it? because ML odds for USA is boring, I can't risk my $100 for $1.12 only. 

Agreed betting US at those odds just aren't worth it.  Will they lose, probably not but waste a possible hundred with just getting $12 in return.  Risk reward just isn't there.  The point spread might be the best thing to bet here.  If I had to bet one side with the current odds I would bet on the US tough to bet against them right now.

They are more composed by now unlike the first time that they've met, the rotations and the aggressiveness of each players inside the court is more sronger now.

But like both of you taking ML is not good risking huge amount of money  in hope of increasing it by 12%, handicap might work but waiting for the live event may give some better looks betting against this two countries.

The quest for gold still near for US squad, it depends now from how they'll going to complete it.

You'll never know if you can get a good point spread betting on live, what if USA starts hot and they'll lead by 20 points, for sure we will not anymore see the -11.5, the line would change to -20 or up which I'm sure we will anymore try to risk betting on the spread.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Reid on August 06, 2021, 06:14:42 AM
Guys, I can't believe it, I was convinced Slovenia will beat France.
We cannot deny that it was an excellent and disputed game. In my opinion Luka doesn't play very good, including 2-9 (3 points) I'm surprised!

I don't know, but I believe the USA has more chances to beating France in the finals than Slovenia, Luka is one of the few players in these Olympics who "can dominate" some USA players.
It was not his night on the offensive end but his assists were something to be admired.
That means he didn't give up even though he is having a bad night and the referee grilling him with bad calls. Then he received the tech that shuts him down.
There are still winners in this bet. Congratulations to those who bet for +1.5 Slovenia.

France vs USA. -12.5 for USA? Isn't it a bit much underestimating the France team?
Might as well just take the + for France which I think has a better chance to win.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: gagux123 on August 06, 2021, 06:28:21 AM
Yeah, I thought that it will be Slovenia vs US in the finals, and I take a L on both games.

The thing with Luka though is that he has a bad shooting night because France defenders put a physical on him. Nevertheless, the finals between USA and France will be good, Gobert and Batum will have to carry France in both defense and offense. But we all know that team USA has a lot of players that can shoot and take the game so it will be very though for France to win against USA.
So that's an interesting factor.
France always had a competitive team during the Olympics and that cannot be denied.

Look, France will play as much as they can, they'll probably be with the mentality "If we beat the US once, we can win again."

Not belittling France, but I'm sure the US will play very well. I can be bold in what I'm going to say, but in my opinion the US will beat France with 15 points or more!

The US is hegemony in basketball, even though it doesn't have its main players, the US has a huge chance of being champions.

The USA is so powerful in basketball, if we put the dream team of 92 or some team of 2008 or 2012 with their best players in history, I even believe that this dream team of the USA is capable of beating the rest of the world.

The countries of Europe could even create a team with the best players in Europe, and even then the US will have a chance to win this compilation of the best players in Europe..(of course, in my humble opinion)

This is expected actually, France is indeed a good team who played very well against Slovenia, and as expected they'll face USA in the finals. Doncic did his best but still fell short, they can still have a match between Australia for the Bronze medal, they'll surely win.

France already won against USA on their first meet up so they have a better chance to beat USA again but we should not under estimate USA because they are a good team as well and they are more veterans who always played for the gold over the past Olympics. This is an exciting match, I'll still go for USA this time.
Basketball really is a box of surprises!

I think I even commented before, for Slovenia to be able to beat France with a little bit easily, Luka would need to be on fire.

Even though he performed poorly, the game was very close and even Slovenia had a chance to beat France (but unfortunately it didn't happen)


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: rhomelmabini on August 06, 2021, 06:45:52 AM
Guys, I can't believe it, I was convinced Slovenia will beat France.
We cannot deny that it was an excellent and disputed game. In my opinion Luka doesn't play very good, including 2-9 (3 points) I'm surprised!

I don't know, but I believe the USA has more chances to beating France in the finals than Slovenia, Luka is one of the few players in these Olympics who "can dominate" some USA players.
Well, it's over now for some regrets Luka will be greater than ever with this experience and loss. He may have lost but he made history for the Slovenian soil and he averages triple double in the Olympics. I don't know over the edge of domination over team USA but they may have more chance I guess.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: CLS63 on August 06, 2021, 07:36:18 AM
I was one of the people who thought that Slovenia would win against France with the big help of Luka Doncic. And they were really close to doing it also. Luka Doncic had a very impressive performance including 16 points, 10 rebounds and 18 assists. But still, France managed to defeat them by only 1 point (90-89). This must be really devastating for Slovenia. They had a huge win streak before this game and they were so close to maintaining it. I still appreciate their performance very much. They can achieve better with Luka Doncic in the future.

USA defeated Australia without having too much problem just as I expected. Durant was the most scorer again of course.  ;D  Now in the final game, USA are going to play against their hardest opponent, France. As you can remember, France defeated USA in a group match, 83-76. This proves that they are capable of doing it again in the final game also. USA should play the game being aware of that.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Natalim on August 06, 2021, 10:24:26 AM
France defeated USA in a group match, 83-76. This proves that they are capable of doing it again in the final game also. USA should play the game being aware of that.

We will never forget that, but it seems the odds provider are still making USA the favorite to win the gold medal. Everyone wants to see a good finals and this one is going to be exciting as USA will have to avenge their loss in the opening and their one and only chance to do it is in the final match.

Though the USA lineup is full of superstars, but the France team also has a lot of NBA players and their main advantage is the chemistry.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Jating on August 06, 2021, 10:32:09 AM
France defeated USA in a group match, 83-76. This proves that they are capable of doing it again in the final game also. USA should play the game being aware of that.

We will never forget that, but it seems the odds provider are still making USA the favorite to win the gold medal. Everyone wants to see a good finals and this one is going to be exciting as USA will have to avenge their loss in the opening and their one and only chance to do it is in the final match.

The opening lost for US was a big news for the basketball world as questions have been raised whether they can win the gold or not. But here we are, they are already in the finals, so that lost was somewhat forgotten already by the media because it didn't have an effect on their performance there after.

Though the USA lineup is full of superstars, but the France team also has a lot of NBA players and their main advantage is the chemistry.

USA is slowly blending up, initially it was really difficult for the coach on how to manage each and every superstars, but they understand their roles and what it was needed for them to contribute and achieved that gold medal. So I think USA will win the gold medal and the streak continues.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: danherbias07 on August 06, 2021, 10:55:12 AM
To the gamblers who lose their bets for Slovenia, there is still a chance. They want a medal so bad because this will be their first in this division.
So Bronze will be their goal and they will need to defeat the Boomers first. The odds are not that far so I think there is a chance we could win this.
I will lock my bet early for Slovenia -3.5. On the other hand, it's difficult to decide how much handicap to put in betting for USA. High chance they will win but there's a possibility of a close game. They are still the favorites even after losing to France at preliminary so history will not help much.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Natalim on August 06, 2021, 11:04:32 AM
France defeated USA in a group match, 83-76. This proves that they are capable of doing it again in the final game also. USA should play the game being aware of that.

We will never forget that, but it seems the odds provider are still making USA the favorite to win the gold medal. Everyone wants to see a good finals and this one is going to be exciting as USA will have to avenge their loss in the opening and their one and only chance to do it is in the final match.

The opening lost for US was a big news for the basketball world as questions have been raised whether they can win the gold or not. But here we are, they are already in the finals, so that lost was somewhat forgotten already by the media because it didn't have an effect on their performance there after.
I know, and I like that because it makes the France underrated, in fact the odds now is FRANCE are given a handicap of +12.5.
For me, it's a gift becasue France are confident they can still beat the USA, and if they loss, at least they'll cover the spread.


Though the USA lineup is full of superstars, but the France team also has a lot of NBA players and their main advantage is the chemistry.

USA is slowly blending up, initially it was really difficult for the coach on how to manage each and every superstars, but they understand their roles and what it was needed for them to contribute and achieved that gold medal. So I think USA will win the gold medal and the streak continues.

Good luck on your bet too, lol... me, I think I'll play the luck game.  :)


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on August 06, 2021, 11:15:56 AM
To the gamblers who lose their bets for Slovenia, there is still a chance. They want a medal so bad because this will be their first in this division.
So Bronze will be their goal and they will need to defeat the Boomers first. The odds are not that far so I think there is a chance we could win this.
I will lock my bet early for Slovenia -3.5. On the other hand, it's difficult to decide how much handicap to put in betting for USA. High chance they will win but there's a possibility of a close game. They are still the favorites even after losing to France at preliminary so history will not help much.

Don't rub it in mate,  ;D I have Slovenia -2.5 against France,  :(.

Anyhow, yeah, there are still games that we can bet and at least recoup some losses. -3.5 for Slovenia against Australia is a good bet already.

Yeah, I'm still torn on the USA vs France, we know that the chances of them winning against France is big, but the question is the handicap, I think sport bookies have overlook France team capability to beat USA.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: YuginKadoya on August 06, 2021, 11:57:27 AM
USA vs AUSTRALIA Semifinal

I have watched the game highlights and it was an intense game and as usual, Kevin Durant has fired up and done 23 pts and 9 Rebound for the semi-finals of the game, and Devin Booker with 20 pts while both Jrue Holiday and Khris Middleton have 11 pts While for Australia Patty Mills has 15 pts with Dante Exum have 14 and Jock Landale has 11 to compete for the Final USA won the game and will again face France were they have lost in the first game.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Pamadar on August 06, 2021, 12:14:45 PM

Don't rub it in mate,  ;D I have Slovenia -2.5 against France,  :(.

Anyhow, yeah, there are still games that we can bet and at least recoup some losses. -3.5 for Slovenia against Australia is a good bet already.

Yeah, I'm still torn on the USA vs France, we know that the chances of them winning against France is big, but the question is the handicap, I think sport bookies have overlook France team capability to beat USA.

Bronze rally for both Slovenia and Australia, not done for Luka  to bring pride to their country, Bronze is better than nothing.

While with US and France, value for ML ain't enough for your risk money, handicap though is really hard to decide yet, knowing that France already beat US but once pride take over, I expect team US will beat them with a high leads, convincing that they are still superior with this sport.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: boltz on August 06, 2021, 01:01:30 PM
Well ...there goes my favorites Slovenia. I had them to win the Olympics but Luka really playing alone in that squad and his teammates should be ashamed of them for letting a kid carry them trough all the games. Against France he made a triple double and he away 1 point away from tie the game and make it to in OT but like I said , Luka was playing alone and no one had a bit of ego in him to uplift his game style and try to help him.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Hypnosis00 on August 06, 2021, 01:08:31 PM
Well ...there goes my favorites Slovenia. I had them to win the Olympics but Luka really playing alone in that squad and his teammates should be ashamed of them for letting a kid carry them trough all the games. Against France he made a triple double and he away 1 point away from tie the game and make it to in OT but like I said , Luka was playing alone and no one had a bit of ego in him to uplift his game style and try to help him.

I disagree with that, when Luka was struggling against Spain, his teammates bailed him out and they have a win. They did everything as a team, everyone contributed but France is just the better team and lucky as well. a 1 point loss is not something to be ashamed of.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Questat on August 06, 2021, 01:24:29 PM
Well ...there goes my favorites Slovenia. I had them to win the Olympics but Luka really playing alone in that squad and his teammates should be ashamed of them for letting a kid carry them trough all the games. Against France he made a triple double and he away 1 point away from tie the game and make it to in OT but like I said , Luka was playing alone and no one had a bit of ego in him to uplift his game style and try to help him.

I disagree with that, when Luka was struggling against Spain, his teammates bailed him out and they have a win. They did everything as a team, everyone contributed but France is just the better team and lucky as well. a 1 point loss is not something to be ashamed of.

That's correct as we can see in the box score of that particular game.
https://www.espn.com/mens-olympics-basketball/boxscore/_/gameId/401344354

Doncic only scored 12 points from 2-7 shooting, he has fewer attempts compared to the past games because the defense collided on him.

His teammates did better.

Cancar 22 points
Tobey 16 points
Prepelic 15 points.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: danherbias07 on August 06, 2021, 02:07:58 PM
Don't rub it in mate,  ;D I have Slovenia -2.5 against France,  :(.
Ooh! that hurts more. Sorry, bro. Also, I apologize for making you remember the hurtful loss.  ;D You are not alone.
While with US and France, value for ML ain't enough for your risk money, handicap though is really hard to decide yet, knowing that France already beat US but once pride take over, I expect team US will beat them with a high leads, convincing that they are still superior with this sport.
This is good reasoning and I think that's enough for me to bet with USA but not going for the higher spreads. -10.5 @ 1.71 should be okay and I think they can still make that kind of lead once the France stars take their rest. They need it, if they don't stop for a rest they will be beaten more with a fatigued body unlike USA with good bench players.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: ChiBitCTy on August 06, 2021, 02:25:53 PM
I heard on the radio this morning that my local Book Maker has the United States as a 12 point favorite over France this evening.  I know that France has already beat the United States but I don't think that there is any chance that they end up beating them again.  I think Kevin Durant is as motivated as he's ever been to be honest, as he knows all the glory has been going to him and will help cement is legacy if he brings home the gold.  Cant wait!


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: dwyane36 on August 06, 2021, 04:38:47 PM
I heard on the radio this morning that my local Book Maker has the United States as a 12 point favorite over France this evening.  I know that France has already beat the United States but I don't think that there is any chance that they end up beating them again.  I think Kevin Durant is as motivated as he's ever been to be honest, as he knows all the glory has been going to him and will help cement is legacy if he brings home the gold.  Cant wait!
It looks like all bookmakers consider the USA favorites in the upcoming match. I also think that they will win, but France was able to win the current roster of the USA in the first game. So we can expect that it will be a close game, and the USA might be able to win only by 5-10 points. At least it won't surprise me.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Johnyz on August 06, 2021, 04:51:30 PM
I heard on the radio this morning that my local Book Maker has the United States as a 12 point favorite over France this evening.  I know that France has already beat the United States but I don't think that there is any chance that they end up beating them again.  I think Kevin Durant is as motivated as he's ever been to be honest, as he knows all the glory has been going to him and will help cement is legacy if he brings home the gold.  Cant wait!
It looks like all bookmakers consider the USA favorites in the upcoming match. I also think that they will win, but France was able to win the current roster of the USA in the first game. So we can expect that it will be a close game, and the USA might be able to win only by 5-10 points. At least it won't surprise me.
USA is still the defending Olympic champion so the bets will be in favor to them but since France beat them, there’s still a higher chance that France will win again this time. Though the momentum is good with USA because after that defeat, they was able to win all their remaining games and was able to reach the final again. This will be an exciting match, and hopefully USA can work as a team and win against France.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Fredomago on August 06, 2021, 07:51:02 PM
I heard on the radio this morning that my local Book Maker has the United States as a 12 point favorite over France this evening.  I know that France has already beat the United States but I don't think that there is any chance that they end up beating them again.  I think Kevin Durant is as motivated as he's ever been to be honest, as he knows all the glory has been going to him and will help cement is legacy if he brings home the gold.  Cant wait!
It looks like all bookmakers consider the USA favorites in the upcoming match. I also think that they will win, but France was able to win the current roster of the USA in the first game. So we can expect that it will be a close game, and the USA might be able to win only by 5-10 points. At least it won't surprise me.
USA is still the defending Olympic champion so the bets will be in favor to them but since France beat them, there’s still a higher chance that France will win again this time. Though the momentum is good with USA because after that defeat, they was able to win all their remaining games and was able to reach the final again. This will be an exciting match, and hopefully USA can work as a team and win against France.

Not sure about higher chance that you are saying, France beats team US and for that pride will comes out with this NBA stars, very interesting if how coach Pop will rotate his stars.

They need to win this game to prove that they will continue to keep the gold medal and to show to the world that US still have superior
with this sport.

Nothing tha we can do aside from waiting for the last chapter of this gold medal quest! Good Luck. ;)


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: SquallLeonhart on August 06, 2021, 08:15:37 PM
One thing I have a beef with Olympics basketball is that, they put the finals game in a good hour for Americans to watch and that makes no sense to me at all. I get that USA is at finals, and they are a big market, but France is the other half and it is in the middle of the night for them, people need to wake up and watch that game and go back to sleep, it is a horrible time for them. Plus the game is a worldwide game, it is not just NBA game, it is Olympics, every other nation will be watching it too.

And with all of that in mind, they still put it at an hour only the Americans would watch ideally, and all others would have to sacrifice sleep, that makes zero sense. It is obvious that USA is favorites and they will not repeat their mistake and they will win this game for sure, but I will not even watch the highlights because I am super mad about the hour, just gonna see the result and move on.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Sanitough on August 06, 2021, 09:14:16 PM
I heard on the radio this morning that my local Book Maker has the United States as a 12 point favorite over France this evening.  I know that France has already beat the United States but I don't think that there is any chance that they end up beating them again.  I think Kevin Durant is as motivated as he's ever been to be honest, as he knows all the glory has been going to him and will help cement is legacy if he brings home the gold.  Cant wait!
It looks like all bookmakers consider the USA favorites in the upcoming match. I also think that they will win, but France was able to win the current roster of the USA in the first game. So we can expect that it will be a close game, and the USA might be able to win only by 5-10 points. At least it won't surprise me.
USA is still the defending Olympic champion so the bets will be in favor to them but since France beat them, there’s still a higher chance that France will win again this time. Though the momentum is good with USA because after that defeat, they was able to win all their remaining games and was able to reach the final again. This will be an exciting match, and hopefully USA can work as a team and win against France.

How the France momentum, I think they have no lose a single game yet, so it's really a big threat for the USA although some people may still get hype by the performance of the USA and we cannot take that from them. The odds are really attractive for France, anyone who thinks of risking the ML, now is a good time.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Harkorede on August 06, 2021, 11:14:06 PM
I heard on the radio this morning that my local Book Maker has the United States as a 12 point favorite over France this evening.  I know that France has already beat the United States but I don't think that there is any chance that they end up beating them again.  I think Kevin Durant is as motivated as he's ever been to be honest, as he knows all the glory has been going to him and will help cement is legacy if he brings home the gold.  Cant wait!
It looks like all bookmakers consider the USA favorites in the upcoming match. I also think that they will win, but France was able to win the current roster of the USA in the first game. So we can expect that it will be a close game, and the USA might be able to win only by 5-10 points. At least it won't surprise me.
USA is still the defending Olympic champion so the bets will be in favor to them but since France beat them, there’s still a higher chance that France will win again this time. Though the momentum is good with USA because after that defeat, they was able to win all their remaining games and was able to reach the final again. This will be an exciting match, and hopefully USA can work as a team and win against France.

How the France momentum, I think they have no lose a single game yet, so it's really a big threat for the USA although some people may still get hype by the performance of the USA and we cannot take that from them. The odds are really attractive for France, anyone who thinks of risking the ML, now is a good time.


It's USA for the money for me, I won't be taking any risk on France at all.

USA needs just a few minutes of any game to steal and dictate the game, imo.

The spread is currently USA -12.5 that would be my pick.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: LTU_btc on August 07, 2021, 12:33:42 AM
Is it just for me it looks strange that 3rd place game will be played after final?
I would like to see France win, but chance for it is very little. Beating USA twice in competition sounds mission impossible. That loss in first game was good kick into ass for USA and they started playing more seriously. They had slow start in some games, but they start to play with higher intensity after halftime. And it's almost impossible to stop Durant.
In 3rd place game bookmakers are giving advantage to Slovenia, but I think it's 50/50 pair. Australia played in many Olympics, but they never won medal. While for Slovenia it's chance to take medal in the firrst Olympics in their basketball history. Value of game is huge for both teams.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Dave1 on August 07, 2021, 01:12:24 AM
One thing I have a beef with Olympics basketball is that, they put the finals game in a good hour for Americans to watch and that makes no sense to me at all. I get that USA is at finals, and they are a big market, but France is the other half and it is in the middle of the night for them, people need to wake up and watch that game and go back to sleep, it is a horrible time for them. Plus the game is a worldwide game, it is not just NBA game, it is Olympics, every other nation will be watching it too.

And with all of that in mind, they still put it at an hour only the Americans would watch ideally, and all others would have to sacrifice sleep, that makes zero sense. It is obvious that USA is favorites and they will not repeat their mistake and they will win this game for sure, but I will not even watch the highlights because I am super mad about the hour, just gonna see the result and move on.

I'm not sure about the scheduling, as far as I know they always followed the local time.



@Harkorede - I'll tail on this time bro, lost my bet on the US team last time. And I agree, usually they start very slow, but once they got momentum and the lead, they are going to slowly extend it up to the last minute. Just watching the 2008 with Kobe vs Gasol's Spain, US takes the lead, Spain comeback and make it close, US only leads 3 point, and then Kobe hit a 3 and then Wade in the last 2 minutes and it's over.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: FIFA worldcup on August 07, 2021, 03:40:48 AM
Is it just for me it looks strange that 3rd place game will be played after final?
I would like to see France win, but chance for it is very little. Beating USA twice in competition sounds mission impossible. That loss in first game was good kick into ass for USA and they started playing more seriously. They had slow start in some games, but they start to play with higher intensity after halftime. And it's almost impossible to stop Durant.
In 3rd place game bookmakers are giving advantage to Slovenia, but I think it's 50/50 pair. Australia played in many Olympics, but they never won medal. While for Slovenia it's chance to take medal in the firrst Olympics in their basketball history. Value of game is huge for both teams.

The match is very even at the moment and USA is leading in the third round. USA have scored 49 points while france has managed to score 44 points.
France has played well in the match but i have a feeling that United states will win this.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Kyraishi on August 07, 2021, 03:55:10 AM
Personally think that Slovenia will win against Australia for the Bronze. Luka is hungry and will not let this chance slip away from them. Australia wants their first medal but I just think they don't have enough star power.

USA seems poised to take the game and I don't think there is much point in betting on France in-game now, whatever the odds are.

Anyhow, odds are very attractive for Slovenia tonight. Will definitely take a wager on that.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: TravelMug on August 07, 2021, 04:33:27 AM
It's over now, US beats France 87-82 to win the gold. It was very close but at the end, the talent of USA won that game for them, unfortunately, for bettors, US didn't cover the spread.

Slovenia vs Australia, I might go for Australia as they are the underdog so ML is very attractive @2.24. I know that Luka will really try to bring at least a bronze medal, but Australia can pull some upset here.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: LTU_btc on August 07, 2021, 04:43:48 AM
It was great final with fight until last seconds. USA had chance to close game earlier, but missed free throws and some mistakes didn't let them to make it.
For France pick & roll with Gobert worked very well, USA made many fouls against him. But unfortunately for France, he isn't good at free throws


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: rhomelmabini on August 07, 2021, 05:37:51 AM
It's over now, US beats France 87-82 to win the gold. It was very close but at the end, the talent of USA won that game for them, unfortunately, for bettors, US didn't cover the spread.

Slovenia vs Australia, I might go for Australia as they are the underdog so ML is very attractive @2.24. I know that Luka will really try to bring at least a bronze medal, but Australia can pull some upset here.
Looks like the odds was really at them (USA) in the first place and those bookies are correct to release those. Holiday and Middleton are now on the books for teammates to win a gold medal in the Olympics and NBA championship in the same year. Great achievement by the two champs. I'm still rooting for Slovenians to get that bronze.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Bttzed03 on August 07, 2021, 05:39:09 AM
I'm glad how the Finals turned out to be. I don't know about you but the game-winning block by Batum in the semi-finals was made more worth it by how close the Gold medal match ended. The French team was a worthy opponent for the US.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: OgNasty on August 07, 2021, 06:03:26 AM
I’m glad the US team came through to grab their 4th straight gold. I would think given the large concentration of NBA players it would look a little bad on the league if that didn’t happen. It was rough going at first but in the end they did what was expected of them and I’m glad to see it. The competition gets better every year but I think it’ll be another 2-3 Olympic Games before the US really loses it’s favorite status.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: gagux123 on August 07, 2021, 06:05:57 AM
Well, it's over now for some regrets Luka will be greater than ever with this experience and loss. He may have lost but he made history for the Slovenian soil and he averages triple double in the Olympics. I don't know over the edge of domination over team USA but they may have more chance I guess.
I have no doubts about that. Luka is already an allstar player in the NBA and I believe he will soon be NBA regular season MVP.
These Olympics were a learning experience for him, and I'm almost sure that he will come better and more prepared in the next Olympics.

It's over now, US beats France 87-82 to win the gold. It was very close but at the end, the talent of USA won that game for them, unfortunately, for bettors, US didn't cover the spread.
Well, I believe several people were already expecting this result.
And I was wrong again, a few comments ago I said the US could win with 15 points (or more) against France. (I was really wrong lol)

I was looking at the player stats for France vs USA finals, I can't believe it. Draymond Green played 16:07 minutes and didn't score, Booker played 22:24 minutes and scored only 2 points.
How is this possible?

One question, guys, what are the reasons you think this happens?
Green and Booker are good players and now then manage to stand out in some games in the NBA...but during the olympics they don't perform very well, why does that happen? Not inspired to play in the olympics? Because of court, ball and other things are different compared to the NBA?


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: FIFA worldcup on August 07, 2021, 06:19:37 AM
https://i.imgur.com/Bq7bdKm.jpg

This is USA forth consecutive Win for United States men’s basketball team. That's an achievement in itself to sustain the title and remain on top for last sixteen years.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on August 07, 2021, 06:26:47 AM
Well, it's over now for some regrets Luka will be greater than ever with this experience and loss. He may have lost but he made history for the Slovenian soil and he averages triple double in the Olympics. I don't know over the edge of domination over team USA but they may have more chance I guess.
I have no doubts about that. Luka is already an allstar player in the NBA and I believe he will soon be NBA regular season MVP.
These Olympics were a learning experience for him, and I'm almost sure that he will come better and more prepared in the next Olympics.

It's over now, US beats France 87-82 to win the gold. It was very close but at the end, the talent of USA won that game for them, unfortunately, for bettors, US didn't cover the spread.
Well, I believe several people were already expecting this result.
And I was wrong again, a few comments ago I said the US could win with 15 points (or more) against France. (I was really wrong lol)

I was looking at the player stats for France vs USA finals, I can't believe it. Draymond Green played 16:07 minutes and didn't score, Booker played 22:24 minutes and scored only 2 points.
How is this possible?

One question, guys, what are the reasons you think this happens?
Green and Booker are good players and now then manage to stand out in some games in the NBA...but during the olympics they don't perform very well, why does that happen? Not inspired to play in the olympics? Because of court, ball and other things are different compared to the NBA?

It's because it was KD who take it for the Americans and then Tatum to cover for Booker.

And that's what talent itself, anyone can have an off-night, in this case, Booker but there was Tatum who scored 19 points. So it was really a team effort. Olympics is very different though, it needs to be the chemistry of the team. It was not that easy win for the Americans though, Durant sinks 2 crucial free throw, before they seal the win for them.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: LogitechMouse on August 07, 2021, 07:05:55 AM
https://i.imgur.com/Bq7bdKm.jpg

This is USA forth consecutive Win for United States men’s basketball team. That's an achievement in itself to sustain the title and remain on top for last sixteen years.
Well, this might be a proof that they might not be used to play with one another in their first game that is why they lost.
Overall, the win of US isn't a one sided. France fought till the end and it just ended with only a 5 pt. lead.

Still the best basketball team in the world, its an achievement for them to stay at the top of the Basketball Olympics for 4 straight.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: stadus on August 07, 2021, 09:26:13 AM
Congratulations to the USA for winning the gold medal, Durant was spectacular, he carried this team, and thanks to Tatum and Lillard who also showed their support when Durant was in foul trouble. It was a big effort, they have a good lead, France comes back but they hold on.

Also, congratulations to those who bet on France as they cover the spread.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: danherbias07 on August 07, 2021, 09:44:57 AM
Congratulations to the USA for winning the gold medal, Durant was spectacular, he carried this team, and thanks to Tatum and Lillard who also showed their support when Durant was in foul trouble. It was a big effort, they have a good lead, France comes back but they hold on.

Also, congratulations to those who bet on France as they cover the spread.
I second. Cheers to all those courageful gamblers who put their bet for France with a spread. The lowest was +10.5 and it should be enough. Big loss for me. I really thought USA could cover the -10 spread but they are sloppy on the offensive end and losing the big lead a lot of time.
A little sad for Gobert when I saw him cry but he knows the outcome will be like that when you dont have enough players to help you out.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Ziskinberg on August 07, 2021, 09:47:56 AM
Congratulations to the USA for winning the gold medal, Durant was spectacular, he carried this team, and thanks to Tatum and Lillard who also showed their support when Durant was in foul trouble. It was a big effort, they have a good lead, France comes back but they hold on.

Also, congratulations to those who bet on France as they cover the spread.
I second. Cheers to all those courageful gamblers who put their bet for France with a spread. The lowest was +10.5 and it should be enough. Big loss for me. I really thought USA could cover the -10 spread but they are sloppy on the offensive end and losing the big lead a lot of time.
A little sad for Gobert when I saw him cry but he knows the outcome will be like that when you dont have enough players to help you out.


He should not crypto, USA is the top favorite so he does not have to expect a gold medal, save that tears if they'll win a gold medal, and as long as they will continue next Olympics, they will have a great chance but probably team France will have a lot of new players to compete. Booker was not really playing well, I can't count how much he scored but I'm sure it's not double digit.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Jating on August 07, 2021, 09:52:20 AM
Congratulations to the USA for winning the gold medal, Durant was spectacular, he carried this team, and thanks to Tatum and Lillard who also showed their support when Durant was in foul trouble. It was a big effort, they have a good lead, France comes back but they hold on.

Also, congratulations to those who bet on France as they cover the spread.
I second. Cheers to all those courageful gamblers who put their bet for France with a spread. The lowest was +10.5 and it should be enough. Big loss for me. I really thought USA could cover the -10 spread but they are sloppy on the offensive end and losing the big lead a lot of time.
A little sad for Gobert when I saw him cry but he knows the outcome will be like that when you dont have enough players to help you out.


He should not crypto, USA is the top favorite so he does not have to expect a gold medal, save that tears if they'll win a gold medal, and as long as they will continue next Olympics, they will have a great chance but probably team France will have a lot of new players to compete. Booker was not really playing well, I can't count how much he scored but I'm sure it's not double digit.

It's different though as compare to NBA finals, here you represent your own nation, not just Rudy but you will see the almost everyone who fell short of the gold medal cries, regardless if it is on athletics or basketball. They have a good chance to tie the score and force OT, but they missed it. Then they foul Durant who calmly sank the free throws.

This is Durant's 3rd gold Olympic medal representing US and I think majority of them are first timers so they are happy and proud to win their first gold medal.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: YuginKadoya on August 07, 2021, 10:00:42 AM
Congratulations to the USA for winning the gold medal, Durant was spectacular, he carried this team, and thanks to Tatum and Lillard who also showed their support when Durant was in foul trouble. It was a big effort, they have a good lead, France comes back but they hold on.

Also, congratulations to those who bet on France as they cover the spread.

It really was a spectacular win for the USA team, 29 pts. 6 Rebounds for Kevin Durant the big man that surely gets it all done, Jayson Tatum has 19 Pts. with 7 Rebounds, Damian Lillard and Jrue Holiday both got 11 pts. while in France Evan Fournier and Rudy Gobert both did 16 pts. while Gobert has 8 rebounds and Guerschon Yabusele has 13 pts. a sure victory for the USA, and the finals Gold Champion.

Congrats to all bets for the USA and congrats to both the USA and France for a tremendous game they have shown.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: boltz on August 07, 2021, 11:39:34 AM
France stood no chances against the USA from today as they played high basketball. I still believe they had luck to not play with Slovenia but now after I saw that only Luka played on that team , I'm sure they would have beaten SLovenia as well.

Massive congrats to them as Duran just became the top scorer of USA at the Olympics and also he has 3 Olympics title just like Melo. Once again , congrats USA.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Hypnosis00 on August 07, 2021, 11:47:53 AM
France stood no chances against the USA from today as they played high basketball. I still believe they had luck to not play with Slovenia but now after I saw that only Luka played on that team , I'm sure they would have beaten SLovenia as well.
France seemed to be a better team than Slovenia, they were not dominated, they keep fighting but USA has just too much firepower in the game. At the start, France build a good lead but team USA comes back with some big shots, courtesy of Kevin Durant, he is the MVP of the team and that's very obvious.

Massive congrats to them as Duran just became the top scorer of USA at the Olympics and also he has 3 Olympics title just like Melo. Once again , congrats USA.
But this time he is the one who lead the team, and it seems like his injury was fully healed as he also have a big attempt to dump over Gobert, but that did not succeed though.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: robelneo on August 07, 2021, 12:50:26 PM

But this time he is the one who lead the team, and it seems like his injury was fully healed as he also have a big attempt to dump over Gobert, but that did not succeed though.

Kevin plays his best when it matters the most, I guess he saved the best in the last game, the US almost played a perfect game people have doubts when they were beaten in their exhibition, but they blend well, and all they executed all their plays perfectly it's not what you might call a very close game but still exciting to watch since it's for the gold, so congratulations to the US team.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Reid on August 07, 2021, 12:58:58 PM
Boomers won!
It's the first time in their whole Olympic competition to have a medal.
I have high expectation for Luka but Patty Mills (42 points) and Joe Ingles was just dominating the game.
But this is a good sign for the Slovenian team, maybe at this point, more players in their home country will have more passion for basketball.
This is also their first time to go that far at 4th place.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: freedomgo on August 07, 2021, 01:40:53 PM
Boomers won!
It's the first time in their whole Olympic competition to have a medal.
I have high expectation for Luka but Patty Mills (42 points) and Joe Ingles was just dominating the game.
But this is a good sign for the Slovenian team, maybe at this point, more players in their home country will have more passion for basketball.
This is also their first time to go that far at 4th place.

I did not expect that kind of ending, Australia defeated Slovenia by 14 points, damn, I think Slovenia was the favorite in this match but it turns out Australia is too much for them. Maybe they are still disappointed with 1 point loss against France.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: dwyane36 on August 07, 2021, 01:46:06 PM
I had doubts about the performance of the US team when the tournament started, but they proved the opposite with each game. By the way, Lavine made between the legs dunk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf564eemaoU) in the last seconds of the fourth quarter, but it wasn't counted. Anyway, I guess that this moment became a good final point of this match.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Sanitough on August 07, 2021, 02:07:13 PM
I had doubts about the performance of the US team when the tournament started, but they proved the opposite with each game. By the way, Lavine made between the legs dunk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf564eemaoU) in the last seconds of the fourth quarter, but it wasn't counted. Anyway, I guess that this moment became a good final point of this match.
Both teams showed respect, though France really felt disappointed as they have a chance to win the Gold, but team USA maintained their composure and they never let France led in the game when they took the lead. Good leadership by Durant and good coaching by Gregg Popovich too.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: ingiltere on August 07, 2021, 02:07:16 PM
It's not surprising USA got gold medal, this is final game so it's not like a group game. It's more intense, more competitive and there is no room for simple errors. Scoring difference is not much but this is also expected. You can't beat your opponent in double digits easily in Olympics finals game. Kevin Durant played big this time, as he should be. Well deserved gold medal for USA and congrats to France for silver. They should accept the fact that you can't always beat USA, especially in a final game.
Slovenia missed bronze medal but Dončić is still young, they can try again at least three more times. Congrats to Australia for bronze medal. Patty Mills dropped 42 points and brought that medal to his country.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: CLS63 on August 07, 2021, 02:12:12 PM
USA - France game was really exciting to see. Just as I expected, we saw a very close game. France were the only team which can put up a great fight against USA. And they didn't surprise me by doing so. At the end of a very good competition, USA were able to win the game 87-82 and won the gold medal. Durant also didn't surprise me by his great performance (29 pts, 6 reb, 3 ast). He had a big role on the win.

The other game between Slovenia and Australia for the bronze medal was also great. I was expecting to see Slovenia winning it. But Australia really surprised me. They defeated Slovenia 107-93. Doncic had a really good performance actually (22 pts, 8 reb, 7 ast). But I assume that they weren't expecting P. Mills to play this good. He literally won the game by himself. He got 42 pts, 3 reb, 9 ast.  He wasn't playing that great until this game. But he was the player of the game in this one for sure.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: sana54210 on August 07, 2021, 07:46:22 PM
This is exactly why I honestly believe that Euroleague needs to grow bigger and bigger. If we could get euroleague to grow bigger, and have a lot more games, then they can grow a lot bigger as well.

Think about it this way, only 18 teams in a euroleague season right? What if you added more teams to that? Make it 30 teams? That way they will be able to actually increase the game count as well, even if you make it twice against everyone league method, that would allow teams to have 58 games, plus playoffs just like NBA would mean that every team could have as much as 87 games, that would mean 7 game series for 4 rounds which is hard, but anything in between 75 to 87 basically, and that is seriously amazing profit making.

With that they could get team planes for nearly every team, or at least euro league could have some planes for teams who do not have it and can charter. That will allow some good players to grow there, get paid a lot there and maybe not leave for NBA, or at least give them a chance to fight against USA a bit more because they have some huge league there as well.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: LTU_btc on August 07, 2021, 08:05:38 PM
Boomers won!
It's the first time in their whole Olympic competition to have a medal.
I have high expectation for Luka but Patty Mills (42 points) and Joe Ingles was just dominating the game.
But this is a good sign for the Slovenian team, maybe at this point, more players in their home country will have more passion for basketball.
This is also their first time to go that far at 4th place.
I'm happ for Australia win. After all, it's one of powerhourses in basketball and it's something unbeleavable that's just first their medal in Olympics. Mills is great player, but when he play for his national team, he becomes even better.
I got impression that Doncic minds still were in lost semifinal and it didn't let him to play well today. Too much talking with referees, to many bad emotions. But it can be somehwat justified, he is still very young.

This is exactly why I honestly believe that Euroleague needs to grow bigger and bigger. If we could get euroleague to grow bigger, and have a lot more games, then they can grow a lot bigger as well.

Think about it this way, only 18 teams in a euroleague season right? What if you added more teams to that? Make it 30 teams? That way they will be able to actually increase the game count as well, even if you make it twice against everyone league method, that would allow teams to have 58 games, plus playoffs just like NBA would mean that every team could have as much as 87 games, that would mean 7 game series for 4 rounds which is hard, but anything in between 75 to 87 basically, and that is seriously amazing profit making.

With that they could get team planes for nearly every team, or at least euro league could have some planes for teams who do not have it and can charter. That will allow some good players to grow there, get paid a lot there and maybe not leave for NBA, or at least give them a chance to fight against USA a bit more because they have some huge league there as well.
Such thing wouldn't work in Europe. First of all because Euroleague teams also have to play in their national leagues, and combined it with Euroleague, number of games per season is already close to 100. Then they would have to leave national leagues and play in Euroleague only. And such closed league wouldn't be good for European basketball, same like European Super League in football.
Also, with 30 teams, level of competition would drop significantly. In Europe there is not enough teams with big enough budgets and Euroleague level rosters.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Harkorede on August 07, 2021, 08:29:53 PM
USA - France game was really exciting to see. Just as I expected, we saw a very close game. France were the only team which can put up a great fight against USA. And they didn't surprise me by doing so. At the end of a very good competition, USA were able to win the game 87-82 and won the gold medal. Durant also didn't surprise me by his great performance (29 pts, 6 reb, 3 ast). He had a big role on the win.

The other game between Slovenia and Australia for the bronze medal was also great. I was expecting to see Slovenia winning it. But Australia really surprised me. They defeated Slovenia 107-93. Doncic had a really good performance actually (22 pts, 8 reb, 7 ast). But I assume that they weren't expecting P. Mills to play this good. He literally won the game by himself. He got 42 pts, 3 reb, 9 ast.  He wasn't playing that great until this game. But he was the player of the game in this one for sure.

 

USA started slowly again as usual but then they picked them self up early enough, It really was an interesting and close game, even though I lost my bet.

I was really surprised with Slovenia losing again to Australia, it initially seemed to be Slovenia vs USA finals, but now they ended up without a medal. Mills was really firing up even in the game against USA, but the team was just too much to handle for them.

Hopefully we'll see more teams get challenge USA in due time, because right now it seems they really don't even need to try extremely hard.


Title: Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament
Post by: Johnyz on August 07, 2021, 08:36:55 PM
I had doubts about the performance of the US team when the tournament started, but they proved the opposite with each game. By the way, Lavine made between the legs dunk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf564eemaoU) in the last seconds of the fourth quarter, but it wasn't counted. Anyway, I guess that this moment became a good final point of this match.
Doubts was created because they lose on 2 consecutive friendly match before the Olympic started and on their first Olympic game, they’ve lost to France but their game was started to get better after that lost until they reach the finals and beat France for the Gold. This is actually a good game, France didn’t give up easily and they played a very close one, its just that USA are more experienced team especially on dealing with such situation, both teams deserve the medal.