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Hi to everyone!
 I need some help because suddenly i remember mining like crazy in the early days late 2009 to 2010 somewhere there and back and forward along the years till like 2017-2018 then i completely forget about it. I got this pic to prove that i got plenty of deposit because i never before i mean NEVER before i make a withdrawal or any deposit. But i remember having a bunch but i cant recover them. i do it before but i don't remember how to deal with computer or programs.
this picture you will see i got 4,005 encrypted keys with metadata. Remember i never do a withdrawal or a deposit my self from my wallet never then i proceed to send some satoshis to the bitcoin core wallet and then send it back and all good till there to make a rescan and one time finish the rescan nothing i decrypt my wallet to do another rescan and again nothing but the rescan begin from the block 155,300 or some like that not from the block 0 i remember was on the early before the mentioned block. I cant post the pic can someone tell me how to do it? i got debug log picture of the encrypted keys with metadata and the other picture after the deposit and send it back to my other wallet and shows 4,011 encrypted keys with metadata so mean that the 4,005 encrypted keys are deposits. I just want to know if i can get it back basically without computer skills or look for some like wallet recovery service but wow its amazing how people trust in that man Dave bitcoin. I really need help to sole this. I remember having a lot of bitcoin and its like hard for me to trust nobody, some advise or instruction are welcome!!! How i can upload the pics? i ve been hours trying to do this barely sleep reading and trying to do something without results. I remember in 2010 having almost 10,000 bitcoin i ven can believe it and thats a fact. Let see how this goes for the good!

You can upload the images to imgur (https://imgur.com/) and link them here.
(wont be displayed as image for newbie accounts, just link)

For the wallet.dat file, you can just open a "virgin copy" of it using a good text editor and search (CTRL+F) for:
The next string should be an address, then check a multi-blockexplorer (eg.: https://blockchair.com/ (https://blockchair.com/)) to see if the results have bitcoins/altcoins.

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Virgin copy: make a copy of the original file, not the ones already opened by Bitcoin core or any software.

Lastly, if the wallet file was bought, it's a scam.

  NO that wallet is mine i got the password passphrase and encryption password i dont worrie about that i worrie about i dont know how to do it. I was really lucky to begin really early. Imagine i dont understand how to upload the picture!

 Hi, you can post the image link you got when you uploaded the image and paste it here ok? If you need extra help dont hesistate to email me for my recovery services.

ok, i will try again. i dont copy the letter i just close the window.

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can you put the link here please?

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Lets see here we go.https://ibb.co/hCqHQCc
its good?

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https://ibb.co/T2wCYSz
After the transactions i made.

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What i see is that the wallet begin to scan like from the block 155,565 some like that not since the block 0.
 I do 2 rescaning 1 with the locked wallet and another one unlocked to see if any diference but nothing no diferences at all. I think that must be the first addresses i can make address with 3HR and 1bc i think is missing the P2PKH address because it was really early it only cost like .08 cents or .8 cents each one dont remember. I know that i can delete the program and with my password and passphrase i got all my info back. My private key its attached with my password and passphrase and thats good because if not i will lose it really long ago.

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 So what are you trying to do, did you open the wallet in bitcoin core and do you see any balance? I got to go sleep but you may email me tomorrow if you need more help :Superbit1@protonmail.com
 Make sure you dont delete original wallet.dat from your mining 2010 or your bitcoin will be gone even password wont work.

Lets see tomorrow what we can do i need to learn a little bid more to do it, but go to sleep tomorrow got to work.
I let you know if something happen i will go to sleep to i need it. Thanks for the help! For someone who know about computer but for me its really hard patience its not my virtue but let see i we make it. I really dont know why doesnt read the encrypted keys can be because doesnt start from block 0 its what i think.

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Yes basically a virgin copy but i dont know hpw to do it i will try now i wasabout to sleep but this is more important for now. But the rescan begin from block 155,564 block or some like that i dont know why. What i know is thath ythe wallet is mine i got all password phasphrase and encryption  password but i need to learn how to install pywallet or electrum i dont know. Its  was old version wallet of bitcoin qt and i upgraded this time after years out of the bitcoin world.

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how can i make a virgin file. how can i get it without bitcoin core running? You mean stop the node and then make a copy of the file while is off? How i going to decrypt the file?  Wallet passphrase unlock the wallet then stop the client and then make the copy of the file or encrypted?

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sorry for the post in the wrong section. People can believe whatever they want and is not a fairy tale or a crazy story any like that. Yes i dont know albout computer just basics. I just need help is that the purpose of the forum. Before everything was more easy now i got to go to college to connect a minet with the computer. But you want to help me?
why you dont believe what i said?l show pictures its my wallet but yes I DONT KNOW ABOUT COMPUTER but if i got to get a computer training or something i do it because its the only way to have it back. i wish i know half of your computer skills.

If you ask on the node window console no i dont need to write bitcoin-cli. On the cmd i dont remember how to deal with thats the problem.

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I supposed to write bitcoin-cli on the way to do a good rescan? but i never use bitcoin-cli for nothing. I just write getmininginfo.
getrpcinfo.
getbalance
basic command i dont want to messed my node up haha.I love my full node its something really special for me.

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 Its ironic because " I got my keys but not my bitcoin" haha. 

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Did i got to type Bitcoin-cli to do a good rescan?

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I mean, if you have a backup of the wallet.dat from the old version, make a copy of it and do what I've instructed to the copy.
Not the wallet.dat that you've loaded to the latest Bitcoin core or other software like 'BTC Recover' if you used it.
That's is to check what's actually in the wallet since you've mentioned that it turned out with zero balance after the rescan.

For the rescan that started from 155,564 height, AFAIK, it will start from what's remembered by the wallet file, the last block since it was active.
You can force it to rescan from scratch using the command: rescanblockchain in the console (Window->Console) of GUI or through bitcoin-cli.
But make sure that your blockchain isn't pruned. That will take hours, BTW.

No i dont got the old wallet.dat file i got the file from the new Bitcoin core that i download and took like month and a half downloading the blockchain. With my passphrase i create the wallet and always got the same file. I will buy a better computer to download again bitcoin core because i using an old laptop running on low memory just like 11.5 gb left.
I believe that every node download the blockchain from block 0. Took like 10 to 20 second for each block to download last time i saw the bitcoin was long years ago.

That's very risky! You should make a backup of the wallet file and save it in a flash drive, the easiest way (if it's GUI and running) is to use "File->Backup Wallet...";
If you're using bitcoin-cli: use backupwallet (https://bitcoincore.org/en/doc/0.21.0/rpc/wallet/backupwallet/) command.
If Bitcoin core isn't running, you can copy the wallet.dat file from the data directory (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Data_directory#Default_Location).

Just make sure to save the backup file to a safe location, not any online/cloud storage.
Eg.: to a flash drive and store it in your safe or any safe location, and do not plug it if not needed.

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Memory? You mean disk space?
So I think Bitcoin core automatically set it to prune since you have little disk space left; that left "rescan" out of your options for now.

After you bought your new PC, make sure that bitcoin core isn't set to prune the blockchain.
For the GUI, you can see the setting in "Settings->Options...->Prune block storage to", make sure that it's unchecked.
And to speed-up initial sync, you can increase "Size of database cache" to 1GB+ depending on how much RAM you want it to use.

You can't just recover your old wallet by using the same password from your new wallet.

You need to find the old wallet.dat file do you have this?

If you don't have the old wallet.dat file you can't able to recover your old wallet with Balances.

Try to check the wallet folder and maybe the old wallet is there.
If you are using Windows OS you can find it on %APPDATA%\Bitcoin type it on "Run" you can press WinKey+R to open "Run" and paste that shortcut if it doesn't work you can try to type this %APPDATA%\ then enter then look for Bitcoin folder then wallet.

Then check the wallet folder if it shows 2 files with .dat files(E.g. wallet.dat and wallet1.dat). So if you found two wallets there is a possibility that one of these is your old wallet.

Ok i will leave it like that till next week got better computer and no i never download my node in prune set i like thing to be done right. Thanks for your time and your help. As son i get the new pc i come back to further instructions if i dont see the bitcoin balance.

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Let try that then but i telling you that always got my same old configurations and yes is windows os. How can i explain that i download a new bitcoin core and will have all that encrypted keys with metadata? I just know that my key is attached to my password and passphrase i mean always.

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Last one question, this part of your previous post is quite vague:
Are you talking about your old wallet by saying "got the same file" and loaded it to the latest version / updated the previous installation?
Or did you created a new wallet and just used the same passphrase?

If it's the latter, then BitMaxz's post is true, it's not the correct way to restore your wallet.
Bitcoin core's passphrase is just used for wallet.dat encryption, not recovery/backup.
If it's the former, then make a backup now to save it from possible file corruption.

Yes its the latter .  Bitcoin qt got
1,password
2.passphrase
Maybe people forget the password and just got the passphrase. At least in my case i download bitcoin core put the same password and the same passphrase and got my old info and the old configuration. How i can explain the hole bunch of encrypted key with metadata its will be impossible i think.

You probably did not receive a bunch of encrypted keys from someone, it's most likely they were generated by Bitcoin Core when you created the wallet, and out of those, maybe only one or two addresses hold your mining rewards.

I don't completely understand the situation. Do you have the wallet.dat or no? If you do, do you remember the password to it?

If yes, then you can just run dumpwallet "path on your filesystem to output file to write the private keys in" after running walletpassphrase "passphrase" "timeout in seconds after which you have to type run this command again".

Yes i got the wallet.dat file but from the new bitcoin core wallet. Yes i got all the passwords and everything. I tell this i download my wallet like 4 or 5 times in all my history in bitcoin and always got my wallet.dat file i now because is not the first time doing it. Last time i see my balance was almost 10,000 bitcoin and who knows if more because i leave the pc on and running for weeks and months from time to time. I dont remember but last time i download my wallet was in late 2016 or 2017 dont remember too good dates but remember having the old file with like that a bunch of key with metadata. I can delete the program and downloaded again and i have the same bunch of keys because was years ago late 2009 to early 2010 i begin imagine.

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you said
1. dumpwallet wallet.dat on the window console.
2. then put the wallet passphrase and dumpwallet again on the window console?

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ok i do it and got a bunch of private keys and addresses. And show extended private key. On the very first address  is like  key date time and inactivehdseed1 and then the address all the rest look fine till the 3/4 of the list chand from bc1 to 31 and 32 after the private keys said 0 script=1

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One last "last" question.

I forgot to ask you if your wallet is HD...
If you're using the GUI, look at the lower-right part of the client.
There should be an 'HD' text-icon there, check if it's "HD" or an "HD" (but 'slash' instead of strikethrough).

The answer will answer the major question in this thread.

Yes is HD.
 I look couple of addresses but nothing i think all of them are new.

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Do you think i need an older bitcoin core wallet? like from 2013 or 2014

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Then it's not a wallet.dat from 2009-2010 or even a few years after because AFAIK HD functionality was just introduced in 2016.
Bitcoin core's version is not the issue.

I just swear by my fathers bones mining a bunch and i getting a little desperate with this.I remember using pywallet and get it back but i dont remember how to build pywallet from scratch. I see a bunch of downloads for install pywallet whit python 2.7 ready to go but i dont know if got a malware or something and finishing loosing all my bitcoin.

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like i stated before then buy a new pc with good memory and download again to see if the rescan begin since the block 0 and not from block 155,564 or some like that because i understand that doesnt read since first block because lack of memory thats what i thinking. I rescan it twice.

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I got a file named Bitcoin-wallet.1 but i dont find the wallet.dat file.

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Its weird because i got 5 files named.
1.bitcoin-cli.1
2,bitcoind.1
3.bitcoin-qt.1
4.bitcoin-tx.1
5.bitcoin-wallet.1
all from the may 31 that i downloaded the bitcoin core. I found a wallet.dat file but was created today not the same day i download the program.

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 I download bitcoin.exe unsigned and everything run smooth. I dont know how i install a unsigned bitcoin core version. i understand in the way to install a unsigned version of the program will be really up hill to me or not?
or its the same signed and unsigned?

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 I unlocked the wallet and see if show in human readable format but still encrypted. I think if i use something like pywallet it will work because  i got all the passwords. But is a freaking bunch of stuff like a lot. I will keep looking for info or something but any help will be good.

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Reading and looking for info its look like ASCII encrytion i am pretty sure is ascII. I will try to get a app or something to help on this.
 Some help will be fine. Its got all the characters of that type of encryption.

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OP said "Yes i got the wallet.dat file but from the new bitcoin core wallet." That means he must have unintentionally created a new wallet file when he downloaded and ran Bitcoin Core a second time (presumably on Windows).

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@mafaojr, do have a copy of the OLD wallet.dat from 2009-2010 lying around somewhere that you can open inside Bitcoin Core? Or do you just have the new wallet file?

Do you see any of your 10,000BTC in the new wallet file? Because if you don't, then there's no point in trying to extract the private keys since they are for empty addresses. You should open the old wallet.dat file instead.

 I dont got the old wallet.dat file i got the new one but i read and said keymeta a lot of characters and separators and is a big list. The dumpwallet none of them said keymeta or nothing just the address and the private key. But this file its encrypted it look like ascII.

Well have you sent any bitcoin transaction from the old wallet to the new one?

If you haven't, and you lost all the copies of the old wallet.dat, I'm afraid you lost access to the bitcoins (especially if the wallet copies were deleted a long time ago).

I just know that looks like the same file i keep on my cellphone micro sd from the last time i see the bitcoin. I know that wallet.file is the old one. I remember i encrypted with the password i got. It was a bunch of addresses and private keys. now to complete the wallet.dat file change for a notepad symbol and yes i make 2 transaction from the wallet and then instead of 4,005 encryoted keys got 4011 encrypted keys. The wallet add ^ keys more for those transactions. How i got 4,011 transactions now? the wallet added  the transaction with the old ones.

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Do you see the pics showing the before and after the transactions?

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i got 2 file 1 said wallet and the other one wallet.dat.

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yes i still trying, but i got 2 file both encrpted and both are differen by it looks. Im really having hard times. what nobody understan is that even if i delete the program and downloaded again i still got the same file and is the same i got already from years ago in my cellphone. But i know i will get it back. Just need help thats it.

Ok i do the 2 backups already. I was trying to download a c++ notepad plugin or something  to decrypt the file. I remember long time ago get my bitcoinback with pywallet and store the file in the micro sd of my cellphone and its unbelievable that i can do nothing with even with password and everything.

your email was on the mining section and its deleted already. Can you write your email again to email you.

I see your post and you were trying to sell a binance account? Thats look really shady.

Thanks for everybody help. I will keep trying because i am sure what i am talking about not about tha computer skill but sure on what i got.

I'd just like to suggest you to please be careful on sending information and files over email/PM.
Specially your wallet.dat, your passphrase and the file where your alleged encrypted private keys are.

Keep the discussion public without giving private information as much as possible so other users can comment on the legitimacy of the "help" you're getting.

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I wont reply any further until the inconsistencies are cleared.

Regards.

Now after all i just got the result that 2,010 are missing now from my freaking famous wallet.file just got 2,001 left i keep it up.
 After all i will going to make it anyways. Thanks for the advices but i dont trust nobody i will not give my email to the first who asking for.
Thats why i dont want my files to a wallet recovery services.

 Hi how can you say that? You never sent a password or anything? I dont know how did you make error. Anyways I am here if you want my help. You know where to find me, check your posts. I might be the last person that can save you from the crazy problem.

@mafafojr:

Not directly related to your problem, but you should group all of your consecutive replies in one post. This makes it easier for people who want to find information to quote your post without wading through several pages (as you can see, a moderator has merged some of your posts already)


Ignore the extra keys. It's bitcoin core making extra reserve keys as you make transactions, about 1000 at a time, in case you need more of them in the future.

How many addresses do you see in the wallet? the number of those is what you should be focused on because there's the same number of private keys in the wallet that could actually contain a useful balance.

 Yes guys to let you know that theres no keys. like someone says here used keys or something but well no keys and computer broke with no remedy to recover any date haha> at least im back to learn more about computers, thanks for all the help very smart people here.
 Remember the real knowledge is on the LOVE and COMPASSION with others, keep it up the god job with the forum guys.
  See you all on the next post asking for stupid and crazy things after buy a new pc this or the next week for my lovely bitcoin full node.

  Thsnks to all and have a nice weekend!!!  

  Link of the pic:  https://ibb.co/gtzXr27

If you had that many coin from 2009 and 2010, then WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU MENTION IT IN A PUBLIC FORUM!???!?!

Don't you know that you probably now made yourself a target -- from international intelligence and tax collectors!
Can you imagine how much you might owe in tax, and would be unable to pay??

I wouldn't just be losing sleep over lost bitcoin...

No... that is not how Bitcoin QT (aka Bitcoin Core) works.

Bitcoin QT originally had NO password at all, there was no wallet file encryption. Version 0.4.0 (Sep 2011), they added wallet encryption: https://bitcoin.org/en/release/v0.4.0

Bitcoin QT/Core has never used a recovery "passphrase" system that wallets like Exodus/Jaxx/Coinomi/Electrum and hardware wallets use. Bitcoin QT/Core has always relied on making backups of the wallet.dat file.


If you download Bitcoin Core onto a new computer and run it, it will create a brand new wallet.dat file with completely new private keys/addresses... even if you use the same password as a previous wallet, the private keys/addresses will be different.

You can NOT recover your wallet in Bitcoin Core simply by using the same password. You absolutely must have a copy of the previous wallet.dat file... if you don't have a copy, then you will never recover your old wallet.


No, it's not impossible. All you are seeing is the "new" keys/addresses that have been created in your new wallet.


Again, with Bitcoin Core, to recover your old wallet, you need a backup copy of the original wallet.dat... there is no recovery passphrase option available.