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The latest creator update from Twitch says,


Now streamers have time till 17th August to remove any such contents from their videos.

News ref: https://dotesports.com/streaming/news/twitch-introduces-restrictions-on-gambling-related-links

Do you foresee any Impact on crypto gambling?

The rate of scam gambling sites keep increasing as the day goes by and I might not blame them much for their decisions. But prohibiting shared links or referral codes to sites that offer slots , roulette, or dice games will not cause any impact on crypto casinos because streamers has till 17th of August and certainly a new option will however emerge. It's a digital society and I see this as room for other hidden streaming sites to Emerge.

Well, it's not the crypto gambling that may affected but related twitch gambling streaming may tend to decrease because these streamers may find another platform to stream it live. These streamers will still have time to remind their viewers where and when they'll transition.

Moreover, I think this isn't will be the issue with the links it might be more than that, maybe they'll restrict streaming gambling in the future and this is just the pre-announcement for that.

Too many kids are watching these streams, mostly sponsored by casinos! And it's insane how they play with high stakes, buying bonus rounds with thousands of dollars, and winning with the last money, usually some insane win! Twitch will just follow regulations if they wish to continue working!
I think the same, gambling streamers will find a new platform! It will be interesting to see what will they choose... I am not sure is there some alternative for them at the moment!?

Well, it is true for a fact that scams of many types of casinos have been increasing and don't really seem to be actually stopping, so it was quite understandable for twitch to actually do this. As for it affecting crypto gambling, I don't think it should affect it much? I mean there are still other platforms and as long as we don't have numbers that actually show how much of an influence twitch has onto the crypto gambling scene. Highly doubt it's THAT high though, that it would actually affect the visitors that platforms actually have.

I wouldn't be surprise if Youtube would also do this, banning/removing gambling related links. I've seen a lot of gambling site reviews lately in youtube that turn out to be a scam. So I think youtube should also do this but I don't think when.

I don't think it will impact the crypto gambling's existing Market because people already know which one to go but may slow down the adoption rate since the promotion of legit site also prohibited. But as of now it will create no impact at all since the gambling sites mainly concentrate on YouTube streaming media than others and also there are lot of other ways to bring their promotion.

For now the Twitch company has grown rapidly more than 15 million users worldwide, currently those who use this platform with a total monthly visitor can reach 140 million, YouTube, Facebook, can be beat by Amazon's subsidiary company (Switch) for now in terms of playing games directly, with smartphones being the best choice today among young people over 18 years old.

If this update is implemented by the Twitch company, I think it will have a big impact on them especially users and revenue.


For now they are very well received in the field of live online gaming, for that I think they should consider what percentage of people like slots, roulette and craps, and what percentage do not like, before deciding on this policy.

If this is not considered, it can affect their own company, I think if their reason is gambling that leads to fraud, they just need to remove the gambling content, instead of referring to honest and responsible gambling sites.

That is a good move for them as they want to limit the gambling site indicates scam so they can not get more attention from the audiences. It is a kind of responsibility for them to always warn the scammer because I think much younger generations use that platform and do not want to see the addicted people to gambling increase.

But if the other platform is not doing the same as Twitch, those scam gambling sites can use other social media to influence the audience to play gambling. But hopefully, it can impact the scam gambling site so they do not even try to use the other platform to scam people.

The idea is good to prevent people from getting scammed by scam website but it is not really fair for legit gambling sites that used to promote the casino games by partnering with popular twitch streamers. I'm not a fan of twitch as well as gambling streamers but in terms of marketing strategy of legit casinos, I do not think it is a good move from twitch. Probably it will be better if twitch have a filter to allow legit streamers who promote legit casinos.

of course it has a lot of negative impact for cryptocurrency-related casinos, I can name two big impacts:

1 - first impact: the reputation of cryptocurrency-related casinos is worse than before, for the people of Twitch to ask Twitch to take this step, means that the reputation of cryptocurrency-related casinos has declined more than usual, now the related casinos with cryptocurrencies are seen as a big scam, that's definitely bad

2 - second impact: There are also people who managed to get referrals to legitimate casinos that now, with this measure, will no longer have referrals in this way.

I think it will have impact not only on crypto gambling, but on all forms of online gambling. Twitch is a very popular streaming platform, maybe the biggest gambling sites promoter as of today.

However, I think it might even be for the best. Indeed streamers tend to advertise scam, or make people believe that winning in gambling is easy, and can make you rich. Many people still fall for that and then gain and spread false impression about the whole gambling industry.

It’s a pity, that it has come to this, as there was decent content as well, but maybe it will change things in a good way.

maybe there were too many complaints why they finally implement this restriction to streamers. because they will not resort to this action if they were not receiving significant feedback. streamers actually have the tendency to over exaggerate things that their followers can be deceived by their actions. for now, it will be good for the community. a lot of people are gullible, let's admit it. and if it is endorsed by the gamers they looked up to, some of them won't think twice.

You are right!

They wont really be making out such conclusion if there were no complaints that do came from the community members.If they would saw that there's some rampant complaints then its just normal that they would really be taking action against that.

Twitch is just really doing their job on protecting out their users specially if it turns out that addiction had become a big problem due to those influencers or vloggers.

i agree with this one, now twitch viewers when they see this, they will have a lot of doubts about every crypto casino, but it does prevent a lot of people getting scammed, Trainwrecks (a twitch streamer) said that he made $250k from referral codes, imagine how many people he got to join the casino he promoted, and now imagine if the casino he promoted ended up being a scam, the number of victims would be incredibly high.

I am not sure what option are you referring to? as most crypto casinos offer dice games in general they will surely be affected. Twitch users who promote these sites have to remove the referral link, which means they have to compromise on their affiliate earning. If they are okay with it then they still can stream but have to remove affiliate links for past and future streams. I think most streamers will stop streaming casino streams and move to other options as affiliate earnings were always an important part of their revenue.

Yes there will be a huge impact on affiliates that are using Twitch but not much in gambling in general, there's still a lot of venues where affiliates can promote their respective and favorite gambling sites, Youtube, Google ads, and blogging are still the most used tool by affiliates
on the other hand affiliates will lessen or stop providing content that deals with gambling and just transfer to other similar sites like Twitch.

For everyone's good and safety, to avoid scam casino with fake promotions, I think it's still fine, the important thing is that the slots and gambling still exist in twitch category, maybe this is a loss for some content creators in the slot category because they have to delete the content and stop promoting their refferal code.

From what i've seen a lot of streamers were promoting crypto casinos so there's definitely an impact but I feel like this change doesn't have that much effect because they could still promote their links indirectly by using a different platform like discord for example. I guess it's a step in the right direction for twitch as a lot of viewers are against gambling streams but they need to put in more restrictions if they really want to stop scams for good.

I guess, twitch doesn't want to associate themselves for potentially scam platforms with high number of negative feedbacks. They are only protecting their image so to speak. Because these popular streamers can always find a way how to reach out their followers. Remember, in this digital age, there are countless social media platforms that they can promote if they want to.

I don't think this will have a big impact on crypto gambling because it's just a way for twitch to protect its users and streamers from scam gambling platforms. As we all know, there are a lot of phony online platforms out there, so this is just a way for twitch to protect its users and streamers.

Gamblers on streaming platforms make up a small percentage of the audience because the majority of them are there for the content or to witness outstanding gameplay, not to gamble.

I'm a Twitch streamer and a supporter of my favorite and popular streamers; my personal objective is to watch them play, and I believe my other Twitch buddies have the same aim.

Twitch is just one of hundreds of tools for promoting gambling sites. Obviously this is not good for casino promotion, but I think it is still just a drop in the ocean of possibilities when it comes to crypto gambling promotion. I think this decision will have very little, if any, impact.

I don't see any other impact on crypto gambling with that restriction. Content creators can simply stream on other platforms like Facebook and YT and they're going to post those links and referrals there.

Well, these streamers will find a way to at least still give that exposure to their sponsors through their videos if they have a deal with them.

Does this apply to bookies as well, or pure gambling only? What about poker sites, for instance?
I don't use twitch, so it's hard to assess the potential impact from the outside. How popular are crypto casinos specifically when it comes to sponsorships on Twitch, for example? If the streamers are largely promoting fiat casinos, it's not going to affect the crypto gambling negatively. That being said, I found an interesting read  (http://a top streamer)on the topic. Taking it into account, I guess Stake.com might be hit pretty hard by this new policy, as it was a top streamer's main sponsor, and the crypto gambling market might suffer overall, as, apparently,

There are no impact gamblers rely more on forums and Youtube for daily updates about their favorite gambling sites Twitch is just an alternative venue, I'm not into Twitch and I don't know their popularity, this is the only thread that mentioned Twitch and gambling, most Youtube, blogs, and gambling directories, it's their loss anyway content provider will return to Youtube.

It is a good thing. Twitch is making a big impact on young gamers and they just want to clean it up. 
It's not about taking away jobs from people but more about protecting the minds of the younger people to avoid bad habits when they grow up.
In the gambling industry, this will have a bad and good effect.
Good - it will take away the doubts of gamblers from betting sites sponsoring these players/vloggers with fake reactions when they win the game.
Bad - more in the financial side. 

Streamers are very creative people..... they will find ways to bypass these restrictions. So imagine this scenario.... the Streamer creates a personal website or an account on his/her social media platform and encourage the people to go there.... when they get there, they are presented with hidden url's to fake review pages ...where the Streamer link his/her ref link to that Url.  ;)

What about a green screen ...flashing their referral name on a demo video .... they say nothing... they just show "demo" movies.  ::) (Example : A video of their big win.. that are stored on Youtube... where the Youtube video have the referral link)  ::)

Casinos who are into twitch sponsorship through its streamers, they can easily pull it out. I also think that the impact is going to be little and for such casinos, they can look to other medias where they can advertise.
On the end of twitch, this is also nothing to be considered.

Of course. Casinos have specific budgets that they spend on advertising each month. If the budget does not change, the money will simply be transferred to the ad fee elsewhere. If the casino thinks well and chooses a good new ad space, then with a bit of luck it may have an even better effect in terms of the effectiveness of crypto gambling promotion.

The harm of risk, we will endeavor to wrap every person in cotton wool to prevent any possible negatives from real life.  A load of nonsense that is repeated continually in modern life, gambling is normal.   Far better is to act positively and teach all people how to money manage their budgets in multiple ways, credit cards do far more damage then the concept of risk and gambling on that risk.

Very interesting indeed.

My first instinct is how are casinos going to advertise now? A big portion of their advertising were going through Twitch through affiliated gamblers which drew in crowds in the thousands. Roobet has a pretty deep partnership with Exposed or whatever his name is, for instance.

But now, a big portion of their revenues will probably be taken away as well - gambling is a very lucrative business, after all, and tips going to these streamers are sizeable.

They made their stand and it's their platform there are so many scam gambling sites in the industry like Betking and 1xBIT they just want to protect their platform, but when it comes to impact on Crypto gambling, I don't think there will be any, the Cryptogambling industry is doing great, it's only a matter of time before all gambling site on the internet adopts Cryptocurrency, and there's a lot of online platform and venues to promote gambling sites as affiliates.

Well there are still a LOT of places where they could advertise on. Youtube for example is one place, advertisements for websites, heck even this place. Gambling content seems to be still allowed, and instead, just links and referrals are the ones that are banned since some advertisers just pull the users out to some weird-ass place where they could possibly get scammed or even hacked, is what I think anyway. I'd reckon Roobet and others would just need to adjust on how they advertise exactly. They could still put the site out and let streamers play, just no links or referral codes.

It's a good move to eliminate and stop scam links being shared in Twitch but I hope that other platforms would also do the same thing since most social media platforms these days are filled with scam links. We, users, should also be skeptical and think before we click because scammers are everywhere and they would do everything to deceive us.

Maybe the impact on crypto gambling is a reduction for the number of people who will see their ads but not for loyal members already playing gambling on their site. Maybe the crypto gambling site needs to think about how they will promote their site using the other things because I am sure they will use the other social media to continue their campaign.

But I am sure that will not give too big an impact on them because they already take benefits from Twitch. But for the scam site already using Twitch promoting their site, it can not use that site again, but that will not stop them from chasing the next target.

Twitch is a streaming site that wants to establish itself in the streaming business and they want to have a good and clean reputation by getting rid of these scam gambling sites that are being promoted by streamers hosted on their platform, these streamers will have to stop and move to other channels, but this move by the management of Twitch has no impact in the Crypto gambling, Bitcointalk is enough to attract more gamblers.

It's good that they do have restrictions but I think it's much better if they filtered out real and fake gambling sites, but I think it's really hard work to spot which sites are fake or not since some legitimate gambling sites can turn into scam and there's no way we can predict or to know that.

This is a good move on Twitch. There are lots of gambling activities that are tagged as a scam by various users. Unfortunately, there are also some streamers who promote gambling-related links as they receive commission from the website. Unknowingly to the public, such streamers own a share of the gambling website which in return, benefits them at the end.

I do not see any big effect on crypto gambling with this announcement. Even if Twitch is considered one of the biggest platforms of streamers, this restriction wouldn't hurt much on the player base on crypto gambling as a whole.

It is written on the link that has been posted.

I have not used Twitch and hence i am not really bothered with the news but how can it have any impact on the gambling space. The reason they might have restricted them is because of the constant spam and nothing else, there are shills out there that would irritate you for a long time and the only logical solution you find in a short period is to ban them and hopefully that is the case here.

This is definitely a huge blow to these streamers.

However, I don't necessarily think that it will affect Twitch that much. All they said was that gambling related affiliate links can't be posted, it doesn't mean that streamers can't be offered exclusive deals with these casinos to promote their service still.

And I'm sure that enforcement of this will be spotty at best - it doesn't take too long to shorten an affiliate link into a bit.ly link at all.

I agree with you mate determining which site is a scam or real one is definitely hard. Twitch really made a great decision by imposing a restrictions on gambling-related links however it is easy to impose restriction but how about the filtering of links which one is the real one and which one is fake. I mean every social media sites we have today allowing streamers to exposed gambling sites in their pages but one or many of the links were scam and it is alarming because a lot of people got victim on this scam sites.

Yeah exactly.

A lot of streamers have already built up a sizeable following and it's not hard to see that they will simply move to a different platform if Twitch decides to ban affiliate links.

Using Discord is definitely an alternative. Mainstream streamers already have these systems in place including proprietary communities that they've set up over the years - doubt this will actually affect anyone in a major way.

Probably not since streamers rarely do sports betting streams but a lot of bookies have their own casinos though.

They're very popular, most of the big streamers have been using crypto casinos but i'm not sure if all of them are sponsored though.

It used to be the case back then I remember a couple of streamers using betonline but now crypto casinos are taking over since they're more accessible.

Sadly, I think it will only kill small-time players who rely on referral links, but for sponsored one, they can still offer their services. They don't need to show links, and they still can show the casino GUI along with the logo, etc. That said, new streamers should think about how they monetize their content. It sucks (and won't change anything)!

Do you think youtube will also do the same?

Twitch is still not a popular place for regular users of internet and this action I think is for them to protect their users because the scams promoted in their platform will affect the growth of users. This perhaps makes it neccesary to do for the marketing of Twitch. Right now they don't want to be associated with scams.

Ofcourse
This will have an impact on the crypto gambling for sure. Twitch is used by many people and most of the Gamblers are making huge money through that therefore if they decide to remove all the links it would not only affect gamblers but also the account holder and the casino. At the same time they will still have plenty of options like YouTube etc to use therefore it would not be that hard to move onto something else.

I do not think that YouTube will do the same but it will provide restrictions for sure since this is a matter of concern but at the same time they should not ban it.

It only restricts so I don't think that it will affect crypto gambling, I mean the PG Twitch streamers wouldn't have anything to remove after all. Unless, they count those skin sites for CS:GO and DOTA2 as a gambling site but besides that, there's no problem that can probably affect crypto gambling site from the new addition to the regulation.

Fron majority the comments it seems that people don't think crypto gambling will be majorly impacted by this move of Twich and that makes sense! I tried to search crypto gambling streams there and hardly I can find a handful. 99% of the gambling videos are related to fiat casinos. So I belive fiat casinos will see a major impact due to such decisions made by the management of twich. Also the streamers will be discouraged to make gambling related content because they won't be able to earn referral income. So it's a major blow for them. I am happy that crypto gambling never made big appearance in Twich.

The referral link reliant might find a way to not have their career in the platform affected, if they've built up a small but loyal community, pretty sure that it will eventually come back to them and they would have some way to make money besides those links plus, it's not like Twitch bans the usage, it's still good as long as you don't have a lot of young audiences.

Every platforms doesnt really like to be associated with scams and they would really be  making appropriate actions with that which i could consider to be a normal act to be done by a company.
They would be needing to restrict into something which they do saw that could really affect their overall reputation or popularity.If some Twitch users could see this to be a disadvantage then
they could always have the option to find another  place to do so because Twitch isnt the only place you do such thing but expect that there would be some restrictive  rules and regulations
on other platforms as well.

It's hard now to maintain or find some reputable players on any gambling platform. They want this platform to have a lot of accomplishments and a good reputation so that players can use it. Having gambling advertising has a significant impact on them because they do not want any reports of scam activities, thus they have deleted them to prevent future difficulties. Same goes with the other platforms, they will remove it if there's a lot of reports and activities about it.

That's true.

And as I've said, there are other platforms and those includes what you've said. Although in some platforms, there are more kids that will that content.

It's the worry that might get in through that content.

Does anyone know if Eddie from Stake will continue his live streams on Twitch with his giveaway codes? It's sad for gamblers because I think those kind of streams were really interesting to discover games and to learn how to play with them.

I see this as a simple business model, that is, as gambling and betting houses are so popular today, and they handle a large amount of money for advertising, if now we start to see what these regulations are intentionally doing, to later demand that they accept only and exclusively so that they pay and can have their advertising on the Twitch platform, this is very simple, I think that after a month or more, they will have that option so that they can acquire the benefit.

The same will happen on YouTube and all the social networks that see who handle a large amount of demand, this for me is simple, it is a business model.

I would say that this news is mostly bad for the big streamers because online casinos offened them a huge amount of money if they regularly play on their casinos during streams and then afterwards post Youtube videos with compilations of their biggest winnings while gambling. There was a leak a few weeks ago which showed that the pretty big streamer adin ross was offered more than 1 M $ by different online casinos if he uses their site on stream for a month. So big streamers will probably lose their biggest source of income.
I don't think that the casinos will suffer from that ban, because gambling was always popular and will probably always be.

only questionable gambling sites ? if it is then this can do good more than bad to the crypto gambling community but the restriction only applies to the gambling site that has those three games namely slots , roulete and dice ? but why .
 it does mean that questionable gambling sites that have games that are not in the list can still continue ? oh no .

There are plenty more on youtube streamers promoting scam casino and even new tokens but they are not removing. The problem with such act is that these streamers are popular that could also protest to spread bad reputation to twitch.

If twitch will do this manually they they hire people to check each, it wouldn't affect everyone including the influencers who are providing legitimate reviews.

It seems to be one fair reason for that suspension of gambling links sharing because children are more prone to have mental instability with all such things at an early age and they can spend enough funds in undisclosed manner from parents cards as we have seen many cases of the same.To protect to exposure to such gambling things at an early age will protect them in future.But if we talk about streamers they will surely find some other platforms for their business as they are not going to stop until they stop getting sponsored bank rolls.So just let it be.

that might be the problem. they don't filter which ones are legit or not. but generalizes everything. Their idea of ​​protecting their users from fake casinos and online scams is very good. but there must be a way other than completely banning streamers from sharing their ref links. but it seems that very few gambling streamers have complained about this policy, they can still exist on Twitch and get other benefits from streaming.

Totally, but the problem is that the content creators that they are sponsoring will be affected albeit it could be a temporary and I think that most of them are definitely small time so it's going to hit hard for those people to have their sponsors removed from them, hopefully Twitch can find a way to make things right for this one.

On the one hand, it is good that Twitch cares about its users and tries to protect them from inappropriate content and fraud, but on the other hand, this total concern has led to the fact that streamers are afraid to say the "forbidden" word and are generally very limited in their actions. All of this reminds me of censorship. I don’t understand why adults cannot set the limits of what is acceptable for themselves and Twitch intervenes here?
As for the new rules, I do not think that they will affect the gaming industry - traffic from Twitch to gaming sites is negligible.

Totally agree. I think it's not just for my kids but for others too, just like I said once in this thread.
Twitch as defined was a live streaming gaming platform and not for gambling platform. Perhaps they could find a way to make another website to separate it and still give chance to people who want to share their experiences live while they are gambling.

I am not against both but they have recently become one of the popular platforms ever since the gaming industry starts to explode and most of their viewers are teens. At that age, they don't like their smartphones being checked by their parents anymore.
Who will stop them? I think Twitch being this responsible is a good sign.

There might be some adjustments but i do see that they wont really be taking back decisions in regards to this.They would really imposing restrictions on things which they do saw that it could really affect their service
integrity.

If there would be some complaints about gambling related links or something like that then its just normal that even any platform will really be making appropriate action.

Its up to theirs if they would really be reverting it back or would really stick out into it and there would be those who got mainly affected.

A lot of popular streamers have voiced their opinions on this, and I think it’s good overall given that a lot of audiences watching on the platform are teenagers that might have access to mommy and daddy’s card. A lot of these people look up to these huge streamers, and will do whatever they are doing in order to mimic their ‘greatness’ for a tiny bit.

Or perhaps Twitch can just ask for KYC in order to block or screen underage viewers from mature content, though that wouldn’t work in the long run too. A lot would surely protest on KYCs and Twitch’s viewer count would significantly drop.

This is the best move right now. Gambling promotions can, perhaps, stay in YouTube for the meantime.

I understand that! But the policy doesn't help to curb teenage gamblers here! Streamers are prohibited from sharing links of the gambling websites. But they are not banned from streaming at all. Gambling related contents can be perfectly streamed on Twitch. So I am not sure how this new policy may remove problem gambling from teenagers!

This new policy will just bring down the affiliate income of the streamers to zero and that's it! Pretty stupid step it seems!

Banning the streamer will reduce the income for their platform so they are not going to do it unless government pushes them to do it and this is just to show that they are not encouraging teenagers so everyone please come to our platform is the motto behind such new policies.

If you actually analyze the whole situation, I feel this move from twitch is more targeted towards crypto casinos than anything else. The most common games played at crypto casinos are - Slots, Dice and Roulette/Crash and they have specifically named Dice, which was quite strange.

Another thing that baffles me is how is twitch gonna differentiate between gambling links and normal links? I mean the streamer can always come and give shortened links to the audience.

There was no reason for twitch to ban or do anything but they have suddenly taken such a big step while not really putting much emphasis on what forced them to make such a move.

With the internet being more and more accessible to minor audiences, this is but a band-aid solution that twitch had offered its subscribers to ensure that no child is exposed to gambling at the earlier years of their life. Sadly, this will not only hurt the economy of twitch streamers who mostly rely on sponsorships to earn money, apart from subscribers and donations which don't always come by especially if you are a budding streamer. Then again I do hope that Twitch doesn't stop here since there will be more problems arising from this in the future if left unattended. I saw a similar situation from this with Ricegum's subscribers. Apparently Ricegum had a CSGO skins lotto sponsor that had offered something to his subs too if they were to deposit money and play games. Sadly the site turned out to be a scam and Ricegum, along with the fraudulent company ran away with the money. He even went so far as to drop fake Amazon gift codes as a form of apology to his viewers which is a bit of a dick move if I do say so myself.

That is what I thought. Twitch isn't the first platform to ban referral links and as far as I know this approach isn't efficient. A good example of that is facebook which didn't succeed in doing so, as people just mask their links through third party sites and keep promoting any kinds of services, investments, activities, even the most shady ones without any difficult at all.
There are a lot of content on these platforms that it's nearly to impossible to track everything and remove what they consider inappropriate. In fact I think nothing is going to change in twitch platform. Gambling will keep being advertised anyway.

It is crazy that twitch allowed it to go on for so long - you know that a regulator or lawyer has contacted them in order for them for a financial settlement when you start to see stories like this. They want to to "get ahead of the problem" and pretend to be the pioneer in banning it. In reality they just get to cut out a source of advertising competition within their pages and force these gambling type adverts to look more legitimate so they can take over that revenue stream. Gambling is a very lucrative niche within the advertising industry so it is unlikely to be removed from twitch in all forms. I remember a few years ago there was a big regulator smack down on counterstrike gambling sites with sites shut down and huge fines, so maybe they expect something else similar is going to happen to them.

I'm not sure about that, the amount of available content on twitch has nothing to do with what you can find on Facebook, and Twitch is very efficient to spot and ban any non-compliant content. You will still maybe find some gambling links in chat rooms but I don't think any streamer will still be able to share this kind of link unfortunately.

One things to say about these

*Streamer with fake/sponsor money is panicked! ~XD BTW, welcome to twitch when they restricted some of the content but the content for simp with almost half naked girls still can be available ~XD.

Roshtein with sponsor money play just got banned because of these.  ;D

Today I heard another piece of news on a similar topic: OnlyFans plans to exclude adult content from its platform due to scandals related to child pornography. To be honest, I do not see any logic in this - the one who broke the law should be held accountable, but why interfere in the relations of adults who comply with the law on the basis of this? This is all very similar to censorship under the pretext of "care".

Twitch is still the most popular though, and now some streamers will have to work hard to get that audience again on other platforms.

Also, YouTube can turn out less effective (for the gambling industry), because it is possible to adjust ads there to avoid gambling and alcohol advertising.

And Facebook has strict rules, gambling-related ads are only allowed under given permission.

Yeah definitely...

I think this is actually a positive development. There is way too much misinformation and misleading advertising being spread around due to these Twitch partners that are getting sponsor money. It's simply not fair given that they can cherrypick wins into a compilation video with their virtually infinite bankroll.

I'm all for consumer empowerment in this regard. They should actually extend the criteria to ban anyone who is playing with sponsored money that has to be returned when the session finishes.

of course, they will create content that may deceive the audience. and we will never know the actual truth about the bankroll and winnings. they can show clips they want and remove the scenes which are not favourable for the site. this is really a very good initiative from twitch, at least lessen the scenario of getting screwed owed to the positive endorsement of these streamers. some supporters are blindly following their idols that's why sometimes it is already too late when they realised they were deceived by the endorsement.

I think the ban was warranted given how some streamers were using illegal and fake balance to trick viewers. There is no way these streamers are always coming up with a $100k balance and losing it for fun while shouting after they win. Banning affiliate links isn't going to solve the problem totally though because they can still stream with these illegal balances and nothing is done about them.

I would have much preferred for Twitch to ban the gambling streams completely actually. There are countless other platforms for gambling streams and not sure why twitch wants to still keep it despite facing so much heat and pressure from European countries to ban it.

The logic is similar to how people want crypto to be banned because it is being used for illegal activities in some places. People don't realize that a gun can be used for murder while also for protecting someone and banning it won't change anything. Streamers using fake money should have been banned and similarly, for only fans (never used it only heard of it), the streamers doing things wrongly should have been punished but instead, we are banning the whole thing.

I saw gambling on a big Twitch stream just today, I barely noticed any difference from this rule really.   People still know where to go to gamble if they want to or just watch, thats the freedom that should be afforded anyone in a normal democracy.
 The idea of censorship removing all harm in the world is such nonsense on every subject in every sector of the economy it doesnt help to treat people like they have no ability to discern a reasonable direction without government.    Just crossing the road is the bigger risk vs almost any other problem people over think, instead of banning find a better way to help people with good advice is a way smarter idea.

I agree but all this censorship on social networks and anywhere else on internet is good for us, because it leads to the rise of decentralized and uncensored solutions in more and more areas and the rise of cryptocurrencies accordingly.

On Facebook.

I see that the streamers are free to put link and banners on their lives. That's why I think even if there's no permission and they're just streaming on their own, not having the contract through facebook gaming.

They can continue as much as they want.

This is the situation in social media nowadays. Everyone is like free to post as long as they are abiding the rules of the social media platform.
As they can easily post what they want across several platforms, it is now up to their followers how they will approach such post.
This is now on the follower's discretion as the streamer can't control what their follower will do after viewing his link.
Their main aim is to attract their followers to follow his link, so whatever circumstances may occur, they are not held liable to it.

It won't have much of an effect. The links are only there so the streamer can make a few extra dollars. The casino is still getting the publicity they paid for. The name of the casino will still be mentioned in the stream so people will still know where they need to go.

There are also some simple workarounds like linking to your twitter and then promoting your affiliate link on there.

They just give view and exposure to the affiliated links and keep doing their thing.

Other than that, it's all dependent to the viewers if they're going to look at those links or just ignore it and watch those streamers that are entertaining them.

This will have no effect on gambling as the websites will restrict links to very different links from their competitors online resources. Good casino sites mention everything in the name of their casino new sites provide false information for scams this creates an increased burden on vision which allows long term use. All dashboards and sections of online resources are understandable even for beginners and information about the organization, terms of use and other data are at the bottom of the page so as not to be distracted the main page of the site contains a list of all sports.

I am sure big streamer would be paid only for using the name of the casino. Small-time streamers may not get benefits as affiliate links cannot be used but still, there are other ways to use such affiliate links. You only need the video and post it on different social media platforms that support affiliate links.

That guy has been playing with a million dollars every stream and it will be interesting how he manages those funds now that the referral link sharing is banned. The guy is rude and bans anyone who questions his funds on stream, just a rubbish streamer. I once watched him when someone shared his link in a group and I was like, seriously, how does this guy has such a huge viewer base.

I am always in favor of restrictions which will make a system better by making abusers in back foot. This way, I hope for betterment in twitch experiences in coming days by cleaning up all possible abuses.

I guess such ads can be considered somewhat self controlled in such a case. Since the main function of Facebook isn’t streaming, it appears to be more of a side effect due to extreme popularity, which can bring profit to streamers. As a result, people are much more likely to be annoyed by such advertisements as gambling and will more likely send complaints about  such profiles.

Yes, such actions create a great demand for changes and alternative ways of exchanging information, but it seems to me that in fact, in order to fight corporations, it will be necessary to make our own Internet. Otherwise, you will simply be banned and that's it. As happened, for example, with the technology of torrents - as I heard the very fact of using torrents in Western countries attracts attention and the provider sends a warning that you will be banned if you continue to use them.

This is a step in the right direction. With what has happened to them in Slovakia, it is just the most sensible thing to do if they want to keep staying in business. Those gambling streamers who make a lot of money off of referrals, will sure develop other ways they can channel those referral links after ban.

Usually, people who gets affected in scam sends report to authorities and to the platform these links and platforms are promoted on to lay complains and I think people have been complaining to Twitch for a while or maybe they got approached by authorities to do something about it. That's why I won't blame but the major problem with this new rule is that it'll not only affect those scam platforms but the legit and reputable ones like Stake and Sportsbet. I hope they'll revise their rules soon and it'll greatly affect steamers as well.

What happened to them in Slovakia?

Is there an issue with Twitch against the country of Slovakia?

They sure will and if it's their main source.

You're right but a review will never show you how the game is in reality and how to play it. When you watch the streams on Twitch or Youtube you get a live demonstration of the game, moreover streamers like Eddie from Stake are giving several bonus/give away codes during their streams.

I guess that Twitch had a difficult choice to make as well. When they allow streamers to provide bonus codes and giveaways encouraging to start gambling, I don't know in how far they could be responsible if kids below age 18 use that stuff. They would then blame the casinos, but they could as well get into trouble if they don't perform full KYC processes even before the codes could be used and kids make deposits first. Gambling is a rough area and everyone wants to get it right. All too often do authorities get involved and crack down on streamers.

I guess Twitch is not responsible for their visitor because they are only a media serving a video. They can only upgrade their algorithm and protect their site from the attacker. The content will be their audience responsibility and if the kids watch the video, they can not do anything. Twitch can only suggests adult people not to show explicit material to young people below age 18. Maybe for temporary, a decrease in their visitor will happen after that announcement but that will not stop gambling ads or video showing at that site.

No, not for watching the video, but gambling sites could get into trouble because they have to KYC everyone first. I don't know what is going to happen if an 18 year old plays on a gambling website, loses $1000 and then sues the gambling service provider. Now you might thing authorities would call that stupidness on behalf of the teenager, but I can see at least in some countries that the gambling service provider gets into trouble for not sufficiently checking out the identity in the beginning. Rules are becoming tougher everywhere.

Even though on a different topic, but there are all kinds of ways how companies can be cracked down on:

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/20/onlyfans-bans-sexually-explicit-content.html


No more sexual content on onlyfans because banks and payment providers put the platform owners under pressure. Now you could ask why the hell that is the case, but I guess that authorities are involved. No bank accounts and you are screwed. This could happen to others as well. That's why crypto-only websites might be the safest.

Nice share, I think it's the same topic, regulations are cracking down on popular streaming sites... in Twitch's case, it's gambling, in OnlyFan's case it's porn! In the first place, the government decides to be stricter, and then banks and all payment providers are under pressure to apply some regulations!

Gambling and porn are vices, but it's all normal I think! We all like to play games and have sex! And for that reason, I think that these bans will have just a temporary effect... there will be a demand for both no matter what, and when there's a demand some people will provide! Another thing, people made/making a lot of money from both services, and I don't think they will stop, they will find some way to bypass these regulations!

You should read more carefully the threads before posting, we are already talking about that few posts above yours, since the one of KTChampions last thursday, it's a quite old news now, but as I said earlier the more social networks and internet are censored the more it benefits to decentralized uncensored solutions and to cryptocurrencies.

I don't think much will change. As a player at stake, I see they are continuing to stream as they did before. I am not sure just banning referral links is a huge thing because gambling streams are going on as usual. Maybe they can hammer the streamers who were faking their balance and wins.

Maybe it's time for someone from the crypto community to build a streaming platform fully focussed on crypto streamers and I believe it would be a huge success given the lack of one.

Well, for some casinos, they don't really require KYC so it's not a problem to them whether it's from a twitch streamer or someone that has just used their codes or referrals for their affiliate.
The problem is, it's out of scope already to guide check these teenagers if they've been using those codes or gambling. They're a streaming site and I guess they've resorted due to that one reason.

Interesting news. Around 1,5 months ago, I started a thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5347642.0) about why Twitch secretly ended crypto payments. I don't know if there's a connection, but it seems like Twitch is being a lot more restrictive now. The funny thing about this news is that gambling streams are not banned but only the sharing of links to gambling sites. There are still a lot of streams where people run slots or play poker.

After the market has been created, it will not disappear anywhere due to bans or restrictions. Users will move to other platforms and continue to do what they did before. By the way, I noticed that some (apparently especially smart and understanding the perspective) users have already left OnlyFans for other services - for example, Amouranth went to Fansly.

I think that's a good thing that Twitch cares about their audience and wants to contribute in decreasing scams.
But at the same time I don't think it will matter much to the scammers or gambling sites or gamblers because the internet is huge.
Anybody can find an alternative for anything on the internet and so does the scammers.
Twitch is doing their part on decreasing the scam and I think many other websites will follow the suit in upcoming years.

I don't get their idea of banning gambling links while allowing them to broadcast or stream gambling content-related stuff. There's still the deed watchable by their viewers but the thing is, there are no more gambling links or affiliated links included. Well, that's going to be odd somehow if they're aiming to avoid people being engaged in gambling but still allowing those gambling-related streams. Impact of it in crypto, not that much to think because there are casinos that are focused only in fiat.

Twitch introduced this restriction in response to lots of criticism from the platform's users who were concerned about children and vulnerable people having to access to such content, but also because (and I think it's the main reason) streamers aren't transparent when advertising casinos. It means the public never knows if they use money from their pockets or fake tokens given by the casino they promote.
This subject was already discussed here innumerous times on another threads as many members of this forum may remember. As we can see the concern really exist and became even a complainment directed to Twitch support.

I just think Twitch doesn't know or doesn't have how to solve this issue, so in order please their users, they simply introduced an useless restriction that isn't going to stop streamers to promote gambling in the platform, but that at same time will be useful to show their public they care for it are trying to solve this.

They have done the right thing they want a safe and clean environment and they want to be different from other streaming sites and Youtube is one of them, I have seen a lot of porn sites and gambling stream channels on Youtube, and they want parents to put them on their list as one of the safe streaming sites online, putting warning and restrictions will not work, because can easily enter by clinking agree on the warning.

Sooner or later, the authorities will realize that and will take action related to that material. And if they think that the providers are doing something illegal or use something that can attract the young generation to use that thing, they can force the providers to follow their rule. Otherwise, they can not continue their business and will get a fine from the government.

If the young generation trying to break the rule and is caught by the providers, their account can get banned from the providers and make them not play gambling anymore. Maybe the providers need to check all of their member's accounts and use KYC if they think it is necessary.

I wonder the next site that those people will use to upload their sex or gambling material after Twitch introduces restrictions to their members.

Exactly.

I think that the transparency issue is probably the last straw.

There has been a ton of affiliated streamers who are unwilling/unable to disclose the nature of their deals with the casinos that they are promoting, and as such, mislead people into thinking that they are hitting much more wins than they actually are. It's indeed unethical and a good riddance.

Twitch is a very reputable streaming platform, most of the popular streamers that we watch are streaming there so it's the right decision that having restrictions on gambling links was implemented. Yes, gaming sites will continue to promote themselves, but I see a positive side to it, namely a healthy and user-friendly platform. Please keep in mind that some of the viewers are children or rookie gamblers who may lose their life if they are exposed to or experience gambling without first learning about the consequences.

But this restriction is unlikely to work for real. Streamers can just use a middleman site to promote their referral links. Instead of directly linking their public to the casino site, they can send people to a neutral site where there will be a referral link to the casino. I know it because facebook also doesn't allow diverse referral links related to crypto currency, but it's still possible to advertise those links this way I mentioned.

The solution for this is simple and shouldn't involve any restrictions. People just need to get educated about not trusting streamers/youtubers. Their content isn't very different from traditional media entertainment industry. There are a lot of fake elements in propagandas and programs we have been watching since many years ago and it's not different with modern videos we see nowadays on the internet.

I heard about this news on the Blog https://www.btcgosu.com/blog/news/twitch-bans-affiliate-links-for-gambling/ at the time and like the comments made in the OP, they coincide in some points in others they do not.

I think we all want the gambling niche to stay away from cheaters and we all agree on that, it cannot be made to believe that gambling is an easy way to make money.

I think this is a good idea, I have no problems with people that decide to gamble and do so responsibly but a lot of kids watch those streams and it is simply not correct that there are so many ads related to gambling as this tend to normalize the activity in the minds of the kids and they could begin to gamble at an inappropriate age, and that is not something that anyone wants, so I see with good eyes something like this, but it is unfortunate people have to be forced to do this and they simply did not restrained themselves from doing so from the beginning.

The fake money streamers will not be able to directly "force" the new users to register under their referral code, Romania has banned Twitch due to the gambling section(AFAIK). Spinning thousands on slots with fake money is the easiest part, I have never seen Roshtein has withdrawn a cent during the stream. The sponsored money can mislead the innocent new gamblers and they will keep chasing their loss until the bust. I support this decision of Twitch, even suggest age verification for the gambling/slots section for viewers.

I am not a Twitch user, but i am trying to understand things here, what do you mean by fake money stream. From what i understand Twitch is a streaming platform for gaming fans to have an interaction and the other interaction i know is the Stake used to conduct giveaway in Twitch.

I have no idea what you are talking about here, are you talking about specific streamers ?
If anyone is gambling and if they are well above 18 then you are not misleading, it is the individual conviction to risk money to win more. I understand that some are just dumb enough not to understand what they are doing and want to blame others for their faults. I do not like restrictions in any form in any platform unless and until there is a massive spam attack.

So what Twitch does can impact the kids by not watching the wrong ads while watching the streams. But suppose streamers still upload their video containing gambling activity, and the kids watch by coincidentally. In that case, Twitch can not do anything because they can not filter all the videos on their server. Maybe Twitch will figure out the other way so all videos containing gambling or other material that is not for kids can be blocked or even banned.

It won't have any negative impact I guess since they just prohibited sharing links or referral links regarding about gambling. However, social media influencers could still promote it without dropping any link on their content or channel. It is enough already by mentioning it in their video and have a separate social media app for promotions like discord to discuss about it. There are so many ways to promote such things, so overall, gambling sites could still make money like usual without being bother by it.

Lots of diversions indeed if they really wanted too unless if there would be some sort of rewards in regards about violations that had been committed out by a specific influencer which would really be completely stop but as mentioned it is really hard to get rid of it completely.

They could really mention it out and redirect into other places which doesn't impose any bans and that's the power of social media. Dropping off links might be prohibited but using up verbal would
really still counts.

Although they will get a hard time to get rid of those existing users who streams gambling but for sure they will reach to zero gambling contents if they impose this rules more strictly.

Also yeah they can move to different places but since twitch is a big platform for sure other owners of social media sites will impose the same banning to if they are been bothered by the government and ask them to stop those rampant gambling activities on each platform they are in.

Those gambling streams are pretty ridiculous. The streamers are usually open about the fact they’re being paid to gamble with house money and nobody should be so reckless with their own money. Still, you know there’s kids out there bankrupting their families trying to win big so they can be the next big twitch streamer. I guess it’s a better use of money then donating to the girls licking microphones on twitch.

It really depends on the target audience. Usually, the ones who try to be globally popular always aim to be as open and trustworthy as possible and don't hide a lot of facts but there are streamers who focus on local audience and they hide the fact that they are promoted by casinos and try to act like their gambling and win/lose reactions are real. Also, again, usually these streamers win when they have huge bankroll and it makes people think that small capital isn't enough for win and people deposit more and more money with the logic behind it that they'll have a higher chance/rate of win.

You can actually determine if the money used is sponsored one or really came to their pockets but most of the time they are sponsored to make it more look interesting and a bit effective in terms of marketing.
Its true that it would really be having on that targetted audience because we know that there are different types of people with different interest might really get hooked up,once they do able to see that someones
gambling with bigger bets or something like that.@Ognasty, i wasnt aware of those girls on twitch licking out microphones. lol

Roshtein, TrainwrecksTv, ClassyBeef, and more streamers just use a fake demo account for entertainment, average Joe will repeat the same tactics or game style on the real balance after watching the fake show. That is why Twitch prevents underage groups from watching them and some countries are banned Twitch for exactly this reason. It is not about giveaways, the online casinos need fresh money flow which is easy to get with some help from favorite streamers.

I am not an expert on the topic but it should be easy to do so, any content that has something to do with gambling should be only available for those that are adults and the content must be tagged as such, obviously this is going to put some restrictions on the streamers but this is natural as this is something that already happens with any other advertising, so I do not see anything wrong with this as kids should not gamble or be exposed to ads directly recommending the activity.

That's why I think Twitch introducing restrictions to the streamers on the gambling related links is a big help for the streamer to become aware of the content they would going to put on their livestream. For sure Twitch will not going to release any such restrictions if there is no consequences associated to a violator of their restrictions. I bet that Twitch made a great decision by introducing restrictions on gambling related links because you are right mate today kids were coincidentally open a live stream without being notice that they are watching a gambling related topics.

This is not going to save anyone since they don't have any restriction to the content creation they just restricted creators from using gambling links in their contents but still they can visualise everything even they can dictate the referral code and ask them to enters it manually.

Yeah, that's right.

Our mate misunderstood it. Those links can't be attached or posted anymore with those streams but the streamers can still show that they're gambling through twitch.

The only restriction for gambling related content is if that content is sponsored and streamer are sharing link promotion or refferal codes which can invite new players to gamble because of this streamer promotion link. not because of what you said. CMIIW seems like in twitch right now. its okay to sharing gambling experience as entertainment for viewers but its not okay if the purpose of that video is for promoting such bonus link . ref link.

https://i.ibb.co/QkNvPx6/twitch-gambling.png

how big is twitch compare to youtube that did not took out the casino promotion videos of streamers?

there is no way twitch or youtube can stop streamers sharing videos.with reflinks of casinos. those streamers get paid through it, if they disallow these theyd just be moving to a new video sharing sites. this is why there is the need for decentralized social media sites.

while twitch have the rights to do so, streamers can also influence users to stay away from them. myspace ended this way.

Everything could really be changed up and there would be alterations if its needed and as long there would be complaints or something non ethical then its normal that they would really be that
kind of action which I don't see any problems.

If these influencers do find out that they've been restricted then they would just find another way as possible as they could. Twitch is indeed a big platform but to
know that there are still several options to take on.