Twitch introduces restrictions on gambling-related links - deadline 17 Aug

[Saint-loup]

Today I heard another piece of news on a similar topic: OnlyFans plans to exclude adult content from its platform due to scandals related to child pornography. To be honest, I do not see any logic in this - the one who broke the law should be held accountable, but why interfere in the relations of adults who comply with the law on the basis of this? This is all very similar to censorship under the pretext of "care".

I agree but all this censorship on social networks and anywhere else on internet is good for us, because it leads to the rise of decentralized and uncensored solutions in more and more areas and the rise of cryptocurrencies accordingly.

[boyptc]

I don't see any other impact on crypto gambling with that restriction. Content creators can simply stream on other platforms like Facebook and YT and they're going to post those links and referrals there.

Well, these streamers will find a way to at least still give that exposure to their sponsors through their videos if they have a deal with them.

Twitch is still the most popular though, and now some streamers will have to work hard to get that audience again on other platforms.

Also, YouTube can turn out less effective (for the gambling industry), because it is possible to adjust ads there to avoid gambling and alcohol advertising.

And Facebook has strict rules, gambling-related ads are only allowed under given permission.

On Facebook.

I see that the streamers are free to put link and banners on their lives. That's why I think even if there's no permission and they're just streaming on their own, not having the contract through facebook gaming.

They can continue as much as they want.

[TimeTeller]

I don't see any other impact on crypto gambling with that restriction. Content creators can simply stream on other platforms like Facebook and YT and they're going to post those links and referrals there.

Well, these streamers will find a way to at least still give that exposure to their sponsors through their videos if they have a deal with them.

Twitch is still the most popular though, and now some streamers will have to work hard to get that audience again on other platforms.

Also, YouTube can turn out less effective (for the gambling industry), because it is possible to adjust ads there to avoid gambling and alcohol advertising.

And Facebook has strict rules, gambling-related ads are only allowed under given permission.

On Facebook.

I see that the streamers are free to put link and banners on their lives. That's why I think even if there's no permission and they're just streaming on their own, not having the contract through facebook gaming.

They can continue as much as they want.

This is the situation in social media nowadays. Everyone is like free to post as long as they are abiding the rules of the social media platform.
As they can easily post what they want across several platforms, it is now up to their followers how they will approach such post.
This is now on the follower's discretion as the streamer can't control what their follower will do after viewing his link.
Their main aim is to attract their followers to follow his link, so whatever circumstances may occur, they are not held liable to it.

[FinneysTrueVision]

It won't have much of an effect. The links are only there so the streamer can make a few extra dollars. The casino is still getting the publicity they paid for. The name of the casino will still be mentioned in the stream so people will still know where they need to go.

There are also some simple workarounds like linking to your twitter and then promoting your affiliate link on there.

[boyptc]

I don't see any other impact on crypto gambling with that restriction. Content creators can simply stream on other platforms like Facebook and YT and they're going to post those links and referrals there.

Well, these streamers will find a way to at least still give that exposure to their sponsors through their videos if they have a deal with them.

Twitch is still the most popular though, and now some streamers will have to work hard to get that audience again on other platforms.

Also, YouTube can turn out less effective (for the gambling industry), because it is possible to adjust ads there to avoid gambling and alcohol advertising.

And Facebook has strict rules, gambling-related ads are only allowed under given permission.

On Facebook.

I see that the streamers are free to put link and banners on their lives. That's why I think even if there's no permission and they're just streaming on their own, not having the contract through facebook gaming.

They can continue as much as they want.

This is the situation in social media nowadays. Everyone is like free to post as long as they are abiding the rules of the social media platform.
As they can easily post what they want across several platforms, it is now up to their followers how they will approach such post.
This is now on the follower's discretion as the streamer can't control what their follower will do after viewing his link.
Their main aim is to attract their followers to follow his link, so whatever circumstances may occur, they are not held liable to it.

They just give view and exposure to the affiliated links and keep doing their thing.

Other than that, it's all dependent to the viewers if they're going to look at those links or just ignore it and watch those streamers that are entertaining them.

[Xinarae*]

This will have no effect on gambling as the websites will restrict links to very different links from their competitors online resources. Good casino sites mention everything in the name of their casino new sites provide false information for scams this creates an increased burden on vision which allows long term use. All dashboards and sections of online resources are understandable even for beginners and information about the organization, terms of use and other data are at the bottom of the page so as not to be distracted the main page of the site contains a list of all sports.

[pakhitheboss]

It won't have much of an effect. The links are only there so the streamer can make a few extra dollars. The casino is still getting the publicity they paid for. The name of the casino will still be mentioned in the stream so people will still know where they need to go.

There are also some simple workarounds like linking to your twitter and then promoting your affiliate link on there.

I am sure big streamer would be paid only for using the name of the casino. Small-time streamers may not get benefits as affiliate links cannot be used but still, there are other ways to use such affiliate links. You only need the video and post it on different social media platforms that support affiliate links.

[lixer]

One things to say about these

*Streamer with fake/sponsor money is panicked! ~XD BTW, welcome to twitch when they restricted some of the content but the content for simp with almost half naked girls still can be available ~XD.

Roshtein with sponsor money play just got banned because of these. 

That guy has been playing with a million dollars every stream and it will be interesting how he manages those funds now that the referral link sharing is banned. The guy is rude and bans anyone who questions his funds on stream, just a rubbish streamer. I once watched him when someone shared his link in a group and I was like, seriously, how does this guy has such a huge viewer base.

I am always in favor of restrictions which will make a system better by making abusers in back foot. This way, I hope for betterment in twitch experiences in coming days by cleaning up all possible abuses.

[just_Alice]

This is the situation in social media nowadays. Everyone is like free to post as long as they are abiding the rules of the social media platform.
As they can easily post what they want across several platforms, it is now up to their followers how they will approach such post.
This is now on the follower's discretion as the streamer can't control what their follower will do after viewing his link.
Their main aim is to attract their followers to follow his link, so whatever circumstances may occur, they are not held liable to it.

I guess such ads can be considered somewhat self controlled in such a case. Since the main function of Facebook isn’t streaming, it appears to be more of a side effect due to extreme popularity, which can bring profit to streamers. As a result, people are much more likely to be annoyed by such advertisements as gambling and will more likely send complaints about  such profiles.

[KTChampions]

Today I heard another piece of news on a similar topic: OnlyFans plans to exclude adult content from its platform due to scandals related to child pornography. To be honest, I do not see any logic in this - the one who broke the law should be held accountable, but why interfere in the relations of adults who comply with the law on the basis of this? This is all very similar to censorship under the pretext of "care".

I agree but all this censorship on social networks and anywhere else on internet is good for us, because it leads to the rise of decentralized and uncensored solutions in more and more areas and the rise of cryptocurrencies accordingly.

Yes, such actions create a great demand for changes and alternative ways of exchanging information, but it seems to me that in fact, in order to fight corporations, it will be necessary to make our own Internet. Otherwise, you will simply be banned and that's it. As happened, for example, with the technology of torrents - as I heard the very fact of using torrents in Western countries attracts attention and the provider sends a warning that you will be banned if you continue to use them.

[Davidvictorson]

Now streamers have time till 17th August to remove any such contents from their videos.

This is a step in the right direction. With what has happened to them in Slovakia, it is just the most sensible thing to do if they want to keep staying in business. Those gambling streamers who make a lot of money off of referrals, will sure develop other ways they can channel those referral links after ban.

[nelson4lov]

The rate of scam gambling sites keep increasing as the day goes by and I might not blame them much for their decisions. But prohibiting shared links or referral codes to sites that offer slots , roulette, or dice games will not cause any impact on crypto casinos because streamers has till 17th of August and certainly a new option will however emerge. It's a digital society and I see this as room for other hidden streaming sites to Emerge.

Usually, people who gets affected in scam sends report to authorities and to the platform these links and platforms are promoted on to lay complains and I think people have been complaining to Twitch for a while or maybe they got approached by authorities to do something about it. That's why I won't blame but the major problem with this new rule is that it'll not only affect those scam platforms but the legit and reputable ones like Stake and Sportsbet. I hope they'll revise their rules soon and it'll greatly affect steamers as well.

[boyptc]

This is a step in the right direction. With what has happened to them in Slovakia, it is just the most sensible thing to do if they want to keep staying in business.

What happened to them in Slovakia?

Is there an issue with Twitch against the country of Slovakia?

Those gambling streamers who make a lot of money off of referrals, will sure develop other ways they can channel those referral links after ban.

They sure will and if it's their main source.

[Saint-loup]

I think the ban was warranted given how some streamers were using illegal and fake balance to trick viewers. There is no way these streamers are always coming up with a $100k balance and losing it for fun while shouting after they win. Banning affiliate links isn't going to solve the problem totally though because they can still stream with these illegal balances and nothing is done about them.

I prefer reading reviews here in Bitcointalk than watching streams on the streaming platforms and Youtube, here in Bitcointalk you can question, support, and ask for more relevant materials about certain gambling sites, because I know that reviews here are genuine and fair these streamers are shilling the gambling sites to high heavens because they are going to make money or been paid for promoting.

You're right but a review will never show you how the game is in reality and how to play it. When you watch the streams on Twitch or Youtube you get a live demonstration of the game, moreover streamers like Eddie from Stake are giving several bonus/give away codes during their streams.

[mv1986]

I think the ban was warranted given how some streamers were using illegal and fake balance to trick viewers. There is no way these streamers are always coming up with a $100k balance and losing it for fun while shouting after they win. Banning affiliate links isn't going to solve the problem totally though because they can still stream with these illegal balances and nothing is done about them.

I prefer reading reviews here in Bitcointalk than watching streams on the streaming platforms and Youtube, here in Bitcointalk you can question, support, and ask for more relevant materials about certain gambling sites, because I know that reviews here are genuine and fair these streamers are shilling the gambling sites to high heavens because they are going to make money or been paid for promoting.

You're right but a review will never show you how the game is in reality and how to play it. When you watch the streams on Twitch or Youtube you get a live demonstration of the game, moreover streamers like Eddie from Stake are giving several bonus/give away codes during their streams.

I guess that Twitch had a difficult choice to make as well. When they allow streamers to provide bonus codes and giveaways encouraging to start gambling, I don't know in how far they could be responsible if kids below age 18 use that stuff. They would then blame the casinos, but they could as well get into trouble if they don't perform full KYC processes even before the codes could be used and kids make deposits first. Gambling is a rough area and everyone wants to get it right. All too often do authorities get involved and crack down on streamers.

[michellee]

I guess that Twitch had a difficult choice to make as well. When they allow streamers to provide bonus codes and giveaways encouraging to start gambling, I don't know in how far they could be responsible if kids below age 18 use that stuff. They would then blame the casinos, but they could as well get into trouble if they don't perform full KYC processes even before the codes could be used and kids make deposits first. Gambling is a rough area and everyone wants to get it right. All too often do authorities get involved and crack down on streamers.

I guess Twitch is not responsible for their visitor because they are only a media serving a video. They can only upgrade their algorithm and protect their site from the attacker. The content will be their audience responsibility and if the kids watch the video, they can not do anything. Twitch can only suggests adult people not to show explicit material to young people below age 18. Maybe for temporary, a decrease in their visitor will happen after that announcement but that will not stop gambling ads or video showing at that site.

[mv1986]

I guess that Twitch had a difficult choice to make as well. When they allow streamers to provide bonus codes and giveaways encouraging to start gambling, I don't know in how far they could be responsible if kids below age 18 use that stuff. They would then blame the casinos, but they could as well get into trouble if they don't perform full KYC processes even before the codes could be used and kids make deposits first. Gambling is a rough area and everyone wants to get it right. All too often do authorities get involved and crack down on streamers.

I guess Twitch is not responsible for their visitor because they are only a media serving a video. They can only upgrade their algorithm and protect their site from the attacker. The content will be their audience responsibility and if the kids watch the video, they can not do anything. Twitch can only suggests adult people not to show explicit material to young people below age 18. Maybe for temporary, a decrease in their visitor will happen after that announcement but that will not stop gambling ads or video showing at that site.

No, not for watching the video, but gambling sites could get into trouble because they have to KYC everyone first. I don't know what is going to happen if an 18 year old plays on a gambling website, loses $1000 and then sues the gambling service provider. Now you might thing authorities would call that stupidness on behalf of the teenager, but I can see at least in some countries that the gambling service provider gets into trouble for not sufficiently checking out the identity in the beginning. Rules are becoming tougher everywhere.

Even though on a different topic, but there are all kinds of ways how companies can be cracked down on:

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/20/onlyfans-bans-sexually-explicit-content.html


No more sexual content on onlyfans because banks and payment providers put the platform owners under pressure. Now you could ask why the hell that is the case, but I guess that authorities are involved. No bank accounts and you are screwed. This could happen to others as well. That's why crypto-only websites might be the safest.

[iv4n]

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Even though on a different topic, but there are all kinds of ways how companies can be cracked down on:

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/20/onlyfans-bans-sexually-explicit-content.html


No more sexual content on onlyfans because banks and payment providers put the platform owners under pressure. Now you could ask why the hell that is the case, but I guess that authorities are involved. No bank accounts and you are screwed. This could happen to others as well. That's why crypto-only websites might be the safest.

Nice share, I think it's the same topic, regulations are cracking down on popular streaming sites... in Twitch's case, it's gambling, in OnlyFan's case it's porn! In the first place, the government decides to be stricter, and then banks and all payment providers are under pressure to apply some regulations!

Gambling and porn are vices, but it's all normal I think! We all like to play games and have sex! And for that reason, I think that these bans will have just a temporary effect... there will be a demand for both no matter what, and when there's a demand some people will provide! Another thing, people made/making a lot of money from both services, and I don't think they will stop, they will find some way to bypass these regulations!

[Saint-loup]

No, not for watching the video, but gambling sites could get into trouble because they have to KYC everyone first. I don't know what is going to happen if an 18 year old plays on a gambling website, loses $1000 and then sues the gambling service provider. Now you might thing authorities would call that stupidness on behalf of the teenager, but I can see at least in some countries that the gambling service provider gets into trouble for not sufficiently checking out the identity in the beginning. Rules are becoming tougher everywhere.

Even though on a different topic, but there are all kinds of ways how companies can be cracked down on:

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/20/onlyfans-bans-sexually-explicit-content.html


No more sexual content on onlyfans because banks and payment providers put the platform owners under pressure. Now you could ask why the hell that is the case, but I guess that authorities are involved. No bank accounts and you are screwed. This could happen to others as well. That's why crypto-only websites might be the safest.

You should read more carefully the threads before posting, we are already talking about that few posts above yours, since the one of KTChampions last thursday, it's a quite old news now, but as I said earlier the more social networks and internet are censored the more it benefits to decentralized uncensored solutions and to cryptocurrencies.

[TheGreatPython]

Now streamers have time till 17th August to remove any such contents from their videos.

This is a step in the right direction. With what has happened to them in Slovakia, it is just the most sensible thing to do if they want to keep staying in business. Those gambling streamers who make a lot of money off of referrals, will sure develop other ways they can channel those referral links after ban.

I don't think much will change. As a player at stake, I see they are continuing to stream as they did before. I am not sure just banning referral links is a huge thing because gambling streams are going on as usual. Maybe they can hammer the streamers who were faking their balance and wins.

Maybe it's time for someone from the crypto community to build a streaming platform fully focussed on crypto streamers and I believe it would be a huge success given the lack of one.