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Title: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Agathamay on August 23, 2021, 06:00:41 PM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: OgNasty on August 23, 2021, 11:22:06 PM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition

How could such a thing even be achieved?

For example, Nancy Pelosi is worth roughly $200 million dollars after a ~30 year career in politics. Accounting for income taxes and assuming she never spent a dollar, then you see you would have to pay her $10 million dollars per year to get her to do her job without needing to play the “dirty game” in order to meet her wealth desires. That’s a 50x pay increase. The question becomes are we willing to pay our leaders as much as our professional athletes in order for them to not be crooked politicians?


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: BADecker on August 24, 2021, 12:34:46 AM
Can politics be pure?


Isn't politics pure if it's pure politics?


Simply said, Political Science is a method for convincing people to believe something, no matter what it is.


8)


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: uneng on August 24, 2021, 01:02:32 AM
It could be if majority of the population of a country/region/city were pure as well. I think it's not the case and that is why politics are like that, because the people are also dirty.

Sometimes few decent people try to break this system, but since they have no power and are minority it's easy for the other side to crush them thanks to the endorsement or omission of the rest of the countrymen.

Collective causes are worthless, a waste of time and will most likely prejudice people genuinely involved on them. So I reached to the conclusion it's better to just take care our own life and don't give any importance about politics. This way you will suffer less and protect your physical and psychologial integrity.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Xinarae* on August 24, 2021, 05:01:44 AM
Politics is a different kind of process which has its own cruel rules they are expressing their desire to build a corruption free parliament with the big corrupt people. They know very well that the politics they do is not possible to get close to the edge of the parliament no one knows them in the realm of political society people have nothing to do with the calculation of their wants and needs. It is hoped that civil society will make new politics of political society this politics is not politics for the masses this politics is pure opportunism.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Mauser on August 24, 2021, 07:20:29 AM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition

I don't think politics can be pure. There are only a few really good politicians. Most of them just work for themselves or some special group, like big companies. It is hard for humans to resist the power. Once politicians are on office there will always be lobbyist who try to change their minds with gifts and money.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Cnut237 on August 24, 2021, 11:40:41 AM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition

I think it's extremely rare. To be a successful politician you need to get your hands dirty and make deals with people you don't like or trust. Politics is all about compromise, and being willing to negotiate to achieve not your ideal result, but one that is just good enough.

There are certainly politicians who are idealistic and seem pure-hearted, people like Jeremy Corbyn or Bernie Sanders... but often these people are the opposition to those in power. In opposition, there isn't really the need to make unpalatable decisions. And the ones that win elections tend to be those who are comfortable playing the game of politics, and who have one eye always on self-advantage.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: jrrsparkles on August 24, 2021, 12:38:51 PM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition
If there is no opposition then it is the dictatorship so are you ready to accept such government ruling method?

Corruption can be removed if there are people who is not greedy to make money becomes the leaders, and its not completely possible as well unless everyone in the country as well against the corruption and starts living accordingly then in the next few generation the leaders also will change.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: yhiaali3 on August 24, 2021, 04:39:12 PM
It is only possible in Plato's imaginary city, the utopia, yes there is only in the dreams of the philosopher and among the papers of his books, but in reality the matter is completely different!!! Politics means lying and deception. The politician cannot be honest and friendly to his enemies. The politician must abandon all morals in order to achieve his goal. Of course, all of them follow the principle of “the end justifies the means,” so they justify lying, deception and sometimes killing in order to reach their goals.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Masplanc on August 24, 2021, 06:45:47 PM
As far as there are opposition in politics who to stand against politics will always be a dirty game. Every politian want to be in the winning equation, this mindset brings selfishness to get power by all means. No politician choose or desire to be a failure or looser. Like they say every politian fights for his selfish interest. At this point I'll say politics can't be totally pure but it can be partially pure. It is only few people policians in the political system that are partially pure


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Shamm on August 25, 2021, 08:35:02 AM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition

 Inside the politics was rear  spread in the entertainment but I pretty sure in politics there's a dirty deeds ,someone aiming a power or rules inside the Government and also had a bad deeds and intentions fo the country


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Lily Garver on August 25, 2021, 08:56:19 AM
This question makes me want to laugh. What topic is this? purely? What is it purely? Is a game without corruption and filthy pure? This is a world composed of people. As long as people participate in things, they will not divorce from human nature. If everyone in this world is pure, then there will be no politics, and this is the kingdom of heaven.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: hornetsnest on August 25, 2021, 11:46:38 AM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition

Do you know of any politican or ex politican who rises or has risen to the top who lives like a pauper and is not somehow compromised through conflict of interest?


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: IIV on August 25, 2021, 02:49:10 PM
Intelligent and capable people rarely chooses a political career. The way our politics works should be re-imagined.
The first correction we could do is limit the number of political post, decentralize/dissolve parliaments, create a system so that people could vote for every small things.
Democracy is stupid but it's less harmful than any other system. Let people decide what they want not the leaders.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: franky1 on August 25, 2021, 04:38:02 PM
politics can be pure if they first get their pledge/mission statements right and then actually have a method of penalty for not doing it.
actual accountability comes first

next is to take out the personal greed and desires. this means if a politician wants to be a millionaire. then they should not apply for a roll that pays 10x less than a million.
they should only be candidates if what they want is to be the listening ear of citizens and push through the goals of citizens.

this leads onto not listening to corporations. take capitalism out of politics. if businesses want to thrive then the business has to thrive by offering citizens what citizens want not by offering politicians something in exchange for a loop hole

if politicians and corporations FOLLOW the citizens needs. and not there own. then politics has a chance of being less dirty.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Doan9269 on August 25, 2021, 08:17:52 PM
It can never be pure what prompt the grievances is failure of the political parties to be fair to all their members, the leader always have a hidden agenda best known to them alone, they are authoritarian who never motivate other party organs to function and likewise during election they either change the rules halfway or refuse to forward the name of winning aspirant.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Tessnik on August 25, 2021, 10:13:09 PM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition
Politics is not a dirty game it is the politicians that are dirty. Politics is meant for power and leadership, but corruption has eaten deep into our 21 century politician, which has made politics in its entirety as a dirty game.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Natsuu on August 26, 2021, 10:05:34 AM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition

It is quite impossible to achieve such thing, and if it happens someday, then it is a miracle of some sort I guess.

Whatever a person do, especially in politics, there is a criticism following this. And the criticism regarding his actions are in both good and bad side. So even though the intention of the politician is for the betterment of the nation, for other's perspective, it is not good. Also, the whole world can know the action and even criticized it based on their own perspective that is influenced by culture, etc.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: franky1 on August 26, 2021, 12:29:05 PM
yes there is the divide of the minds. and this occurs even when things are bipartisan

take covid.
one side(economic) wants the lockdown to end now and inhindsight say it should never have happened
other side(health) wants the lockdown to be and have been more stricter to actually prevent all infection

so there is a double argument of government being to soft and being to hard.

but thats democracy. it goes with the majority.

however being dirty is where government and its representatives and their friends are doing things for their own desires and not the majority citizen population.

this could change by making representatives more accountable. where any major changes go to a vote or need to fulfill the mission statement/pledge the representatives got elected by

EG trumps "wall" has many negative viewpoints of disadvantages.. but it was part of his pledge and people voted him in due to it. so its not 'dirty'

what would be dirty is if he was syphoning off profits for his and his buddies personal gain rather than finding the best quality/least cost method of building a wall

things like accountants and regulators should be looking more towards the politicians and less at the citizens just trying to get by on minimum wage. that alone can make politics less dirty


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Lordhermes on August 26, 2021, 08:27:49 PM
Intelligent and capable people rarely chooses a political career. The way our politics works should be re-imagined.
The first correction we could do is limit the number of political post, decentralize/dissolve parliaments, create a system so that people could vote for every small things.
Democracy is stupid but it's less harmful than any other system. Let people decide what they want not the leaders.
Democracy can't be stupid and it isn't stupid because it allows the masses,citizens and people choose whom they want to rule them.It also give the people ample opportunity to vote for election and be voted for.

Democracy which is government of the people,,for the people and by the people was meant to be free and fare,but the corruption,nepotism,psychopansy and afghanistanism in the political system has made the system rough.Everybody wants to rule by all cost,and thus will continue because everybody coming to rule have their own selfish interest in the political position and therefore cannot rule the people purely without corruption.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Myleschetty on August 27, 2021, 06:56:28 PM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition
No politics cannot be pure because it is a realm of game, envy, greed, and thirst for power/position at all costs. Besides, the fundamental belief of every politician is to create and supply a hate story that will discredit their political opponents which have a possible chance to win against them and the funny thing is people rely on the hate stories rather than investigate them


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: hornetsnest on August 28, 2021, 05:46:34 PM
You don't reach the top in business or politics by being "nice". ALL politicans who reach the top are vicious, scheming underhanded creatures who running a sysyem of societal governance that is simply the substitute for a society of chaos,anarchy,mob rule,vigilantism etc. Both are corrupt systems of governance whereby the ruling class of plutocrats simply usurp the law and use their machinations to enforce their dominance in either societal system. A political leader today is in essence no different than any other cartel leading member. All will see the pit in the end and their rotting corpes worms will never die ;)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E95ACmMXsAEny62?format=jpg&name=large

#servicemenandwomendiedfornothingonlythegamesplayedbywickedmen


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: tabas on August 28, 2021, 09:01:39 PM
Politics is not a dirty game it is the politicians that are dirty.
The reality is it is.
Politics is meant for power and leadership, but corruption has eaten deep into our 21 century politician, which has made politics in its entirety as a dirty game.
And that ends up that politics is dirty because of them and actually it is. I've heard that there's clean politics in Japan, anyone who have an idea about them?


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: inoes on August 28, 2021, 11:03:38 PM
Politics can be interpreted with art in achieving certain goals. Because it has a purpose, politics is born (a way to achieve goals). So it is very difficult if politics there is no element of crime and hatred in it. This is related to how a person's lust and desires. Political crime is one form of organized crime (organized crim) so that the ruler can be done or individuals to the desired.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Subbir on August 29, 2021, 07:42:34 AM
Politics can never be pure through politics that tiny organizations can easily change their needs and reach the top of development. In one area a tornado destroyed some homes opposition support is high within the area inevitably, a disaster management committee was formed headed by an opposition politician within the area state institutions and officials also perform their duties impartially. Since there's no government there's not the slightest change within the treatment of the opposition.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: hornetsnest on August 29, 2021, 05:56:56 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8OrpncUUAEbFlm?format=jpg&name=large


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Ebede on August 29, 2021, 10:05:39 PM
Politics can be pure if the representative of the people perform there responsibility..from the start the documented laws are carried out,but lately laws are meant for the rich instead of the poor.
Politics can not be pure in my own perspective....the people vote in there representatives but they're totally snubbed at the end of the day, mean while attention is only been paid to there God father's alone.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: famososMuertos on September 08, 2021, 07:02:28 AM
@OP
Politicians feed on the imperfections of their rivals, not their virtues, so analyzing those virtues correspond to those who agree to give power to those politicians, that is, you or the people.

Says a phrase "The art of politics" and in that context any resolution or confrontation between the politicians  it is determined if it is dirty or clean depending on where the interests of the person who judges.

Anyway in practical reality it is not a question of qualifying the modus operandi, because in itself, the very result of those political decisions for the benefit of the collective determines the degree of purity.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Davidvictorson on September 08, 2021, 07:37:29 AM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition

I’d answer using the country I presently reside in. Politics in this country can be pure if the politicians don’t use religious and tribal/ethnic weapon on the electorate. They constantly sell the idea that folks from different religion or tribal/ ethnic extraction cannot have a mutual political, economic, cultural and social interests. In this country, I believe that clean politics is possible if electoral reforms are truly reforms and not some sham to hand over office to the next highly corruption, biased and political cult group ready to milk the nation and her citizenry dry of life and her resources.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: hornetsnest on September 08, 2021, 10:03:07 AM
No politican who is a member of any "private society,club,order" should serve in public office. It is the nestbed of corruption.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: tvbcof on September 08, 2021, 10:21:40 AM
"Can politics be pure?"

The answer as of fairly recently is probably 'yes'.  This undesirable reality could very well could be the problem that triggered the covid plandemic.

With the computer processing power and sensor technology available now, it likely is possible to read peoples thoughts and feelings quite accurately.  If, in order to be competitive in a position of political power, one had to submit to a 'brain test' which discriminated out people who were attracted to the vocation for untoward reasons, then the people involved in the process would be relatively 'pure'.

For the current elite, this would mean that 'democracy' is completely unworkable because until now they have been able to control it primarily with financial means, and using politicians who have significant character flaws.  The character flaws could be anything which upsets current public sensibilities.  (Homosexuality went obsolete for this purpose a while ago, and pedophilic tenancies appear to be nearing the end of their usefulness as well..making Biden one of the last of his breed.)

The proverbial 'powers that be' are reported to have identified this 'mind analysis' problem some years ago, and it is hypothesized that it was a trigger to shift to a different form of governance which could keep complete anti-human slime-balls like themselves at the top.  Namely a technocratic dictatorship.



Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: syedakhlaque on September 08, 2021, 10:30:49 AM
It is very difficult that politics be pure and free of all kinds of vices. There is no such example anywhere in the countries of the world this time. But  It is the desire of the public that politics should be free from all kinds of pollution  & a political Govt work only for the betterment of country and people. But when a political party has a Govt. It makes all effort and uses intrigue to press the opponents.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: hornetsnest on September 08, 2021, 10:39:43 AM

For the current elite, this would mean that 'democracy' is completely unworkable because until now they have been able to control it primarily with financial means[snip]...Namely a technocratic dictatorship.




The bitcorn peeps here are a very significant part (maybe even biblical) of the overall pretext even if they don't realise it . You see tyranny always comes under the guise of security,safety etc and the bitcorn peeps are the ones who yammer on about freedom and taking on the man yet they through their workings are unwittingly assisting this new "digital dictatorship".

Hyper inflation .....(bitcorn was created to address the money printing ;-)  ) was one of the triggers for dissent in Europe before the last world war came about so the only card on the table now is a "Bretton woods" 2.0 of not only the financial system but the whole societal landscape. It will be the current bitcoins carbon footprint that will provide the main pretext for it's demise among other things if all goes to plan and the narrative has already been unleashed to the extinction activist community. Modus operandi as always will be a well orchestrated "public decry" first against the destruction these type of digital currencies which are still being mined this way and are causing to the environment but since the plebs have been popularizing these digital currencies "we will make a better type of one for them" ;-). If either war or earthquakes hit major areas on earth this same modus operandi will continue against anything that opposes this changing to the global system/order once it is set in stone.  

"from the 7th horn/kingdom will come an 8th (One world united) but it will still really have come from the 7th"

This will be man's final kingdom on Earth until the end.

#modernism #missionaccomplished #satanskingdomrevealed


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: tvbcof on September 08, 2021, 11:15:01 AM

For the current elite, this would mean that 'democracy' is completely unworkable because until now they have been able to control it primarily with financial means[snip]...Namely a technocratic dictatorship.


The bitcorn peeps here are a very significant part (maybe even biblical) of the overall pretext even if they don't realise it . You see tyranny always comes under the guise of security,safety etc and the bitcorn peeps are the ones who yammer on about freedom and taking on the man yet they through their workings are unwittingly assisting this new "digital dictatorship".

A method of distributing a secure list, and private keys controlling manipulation, is certainly not earth-shattering.  Yes, it could be and probably is a factor in the timings of things, but this particular innovation it was inevitable (and probably overdue.)  It just happened to be the first one which 'caught'.

Bitcoin probably is both useful and detrimental to parties on either sides of the various spectrums.  It is probably 'disruptive' enough to have changed various timings and sequences, but the basic elements of the technocracy were lined out loooong before Bitcoin came onto the scene, and it doesn't seem to have been a feature in any of these plans.  Nor is it very helpful to the plans, things like 'body activity mining' having the distinct appearance of desperation.

Hyper inflation .....(bitcorn was created to address the money printing ;-)  ) was one of the triggers for dissent in Europe before the last world war came about so the only card on the table now is a "Bretton woods" 2.0 of not only the financial system but the whole societal landscape. It will be the current bitcoins carbon footprint that will provide the main pretext for it's demise among other things if all goes to plan and the narrative has already been unleashed to the extinction activist community. Modus operandi as always will be a well orchestrated "public decry" first against the destruction these type of digital currencies which are still being mined this way and are causing to the environment but since the plebs have been popularizing these digital currencies "we will make a better type of one for them" ;-). If either war or earthquakes hit major areas on earth this same modus operandi will continue against anything that opposes this changing to the global system/order once it is set in stone.  

Bitcoin's 'proof of work' is an absolute dream come true for the 'renewable energy' eco-tards.  It overcomes the main deficiencies in a lot of their systems (solar, wind, etc.)  This because with a profitable way of burning the inevitable excess energy, the systems they want built become potentially workable from a financial perspective.  The eco-tards (who are not simply interested in it as a surfboard for socialism) are far to narrow minded and dim-witted to grasp that though.

To bad for the eco-tards, they are not nearly bright enough to recognize who their daddy is, and don't care to try to figure it out as long as their allowance comes in.  Daddy has zero interest in their 'alternate energy' dreams, and they know the whole 'climate change' thing is a fraud because they funded it into existence.  Daddy's only interest in alternate energy is controlling whatever comes out of the machines...most BTC have already been mined :)



Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Sayeds56 on September 08, 2021, 02:42:30 PM
It is very difficult that politics be pure and free of all kinds of vices. There is no such example anywhere in the countries of the world this time. But  It is the desire of the public that politics should be free from all kinds of pollution  & a political Govt work only for the betterment of country and people. But when a political party has a Govt. It makes all effort and uses intrigue to press the opponents.

The Politician all over the world are not reliable and they make false promises which are not deliverable specially in third world countries. Politician in our country don't do any thing for the betterment of country of public welfare in stead they fill their wallets with kickback money they receive through corrupt practices. The worst part of it is that they don't keep this looted money in their country in stead they transfer it to foreign countries and build their assets in the name of their families so that it is not traceable.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: chr1stian12 on September 08, 2021, 06:26:12 PM
I don't think so. There are people who lure and run themselves into politics believing that they'll gain so much power. Power to  be corrupt all in all.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Piggymonster on September 22, 2021, 04:47:43 AM
In my own opinion, politics can never be pure! ever! It is a dirty business because it  involves money and power. Men who are hungry of power will do everything just to take  the highest position in the  government and forget their true responsibility as a leader and taking care of the people.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Lordhermes on September 22, 2021, 11:54:06 PM
In my own opinion, politics can never be pure! ever! It is a dirty business because it  involves money and power. Men who are hungry of power will do everything just to take  the highest position in the  government and forget their true responsibility as a leader and taking care of the people.
Yeah,you are right,has they used to say,that politics is a dirty business,if you are not rough,you can't do it.The game of politics is for the hard hearted,not for the soft minded people,and there is no way we can remove the dirtiness from it.The dirtiness are the bribery,corruption,nepotism,psychophancy and other acts that are uncalled for.These leaders cannot do without imbibing those acts,which makes them win when they contest.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Famith on September 26, 2021, 06:38:23 AM
Politics is a game between politicians, it is a tool used to entertain the people. There can never be pure politics.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Wakate on September 26, 2021, 07:38:59 AM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition
Maybe till when Jesus comes cause I see nothing like pure politics. Politics is a deadly game and if one is not that strong, he might end up being the loser. Envy, opposition and illegal missions are part of the game. Do not expect a saint to join the politics of the ungodly cause is either is he converted or secretly influenced by political mindset.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: B1tUnl0ck3r on September 26, 2021, 07:55:41 AM
you mean direct democracy : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWBrbl08Lmc ? heheh


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: SmokerFace on November 12, 2021, 07:58:48 PM
Politics itself is not dirty or a bad game but the politicians are playing this game in a bad way. Also, it is pertinent to mention here that the politicians are also a part of that society or country so they should work for the betterment of the people and the state. Politics should always be in a constructive way rather than the negative way. Yes, politics can be sure if it's being done in a positive way. Just to build the people and the nation.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Rruchi man on November 12, 2021, 08:13:11 PM
It will be difficult for a profession like Politics that involves "power" to be pure and free from malpractice. Power is intoxicating and the thought of attaining more power or remaining in power turns some people on so much that they can go to any length to get it and remain there. This to me is a strong reason why politics can never be pure.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Melody kdl on November 13, 2021, 01:54:25 AM
I think this is impossible. From a small area to a big country, politics will be dirty. Some people are decent because there are people in power, but there are still greedy people. Decent people cannot overthrow these systems. In any case, in my opinion, I do not see pure politics.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Savannah99 on November 13, 2021, 02:20:09 AM
This is a complicated political relationship. It may be glamorous on the surface. The interest relationship between everyone behind it and selfish people makes politics complicated and involuntary. People are selfish. Although this sentence should not be so absolute, there are always reasons why people become unscrupulous.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: KrispyKrypto on November 13, 2021, 02:59:12 AM
I honestly don't think so. Usually the people that are in/ drawn to politics are pretty nasty people. Yeah there are some good, but in my experience they usually aren't.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Newlifebtc on November 14, 2021, 04:55:22 AM
I honestly don't think so. Usually the people that are in/ drawn to politics are pretty nasty people. Yeah there are some good, but in my experience they usually aren't.
politics is game of interest and it's a dirty play which before someone can be among you will commit different kinds of uglyings, and i never see a politician who not heartless basically from the root, yeah i can hardly believe you that we have some good politicians who is not interested to travel with society money


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: hornetsnest on November 15, 2021, 12:22:01 AM
Politics can never be pure because politicans are easily corrupted.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Silentsweeper on November 15, 2021, 10:26:38 AM
Politics is a very dangerous game. They will promise the voters anything just to get your vote. And best of all we all fall for this by voting for the persons who iss already talking trash. We as humans belief people to quickly. All parties want is your vote nothing else count. Remeber they always look first at their own pockets. The voters get nothing. Only empty promises. Parties back mouth each other but eventually they dont care and we as spectators are fired up and cant wait to vote. They must pay me and then I will cast my vote. These days nothing is for FREE.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: BernyJB on November 15, 2021, 04:18:23 PM
As a concept, democracy calls for corruption.
No politician today, no matter how good his intentions are, can win an election without getting in bed with those that hold the money.
In fact, many countries have regulations limiting the amount of personal money a politician can use for his or her campaign, literally forcing that politician to corrupt himself.
Should that politician be elected, they'd rise to power indebted to a lot of people that have a different idea of what's "good for the country".
That said, by design, an elected official has a lot of tools (legal or not) to cover their tracks, and a lot of opportunities to do wrong for their own profit. That's a huge temptation right there.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Slow death on November 15, 2021, 11:08:00 PM
Politics can never be pure because politicans are easily corrupted.

True, politicians are very bad people and without any feeling for others, they do anything for money and power, they are capable of killing hundreds of people to stay in power and have a lot of money. we can see this in so many wars that exist in every corner of the world. What shocks me the most is how most people delude themselves with politicians. One of the main weapons that politicians use is religion, yes, politicians use religion to make their people meek


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: hornetsnest on November 16, 2021, 12:51:24 PM
One of the main weapons that politicians use is religion, yes, politicians use religion to make their people meek

Maybe in places like Iran or Afghanistan but in most countries they simply use populist narratives that are generated in order to subjugate rational and meaningful discourse. While the glee generation are yammering on about a rainbow coloured unicorn getting married to a transgender cat the political class get on with doing their thang. There is nothing wrong with religion unless it is a false corrupt dogma. In fact radical and absolute atheism has cause more extreme destruction to humanity than all religions combined. Think Stalin,Pol Pot,Mao .........


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Awwal08 on January 12, 2022, 06:40:47 AM
Yes politics can be pure. In this world we are all surrounded by politics because not only in government or offices even in our homes we play politics, you play politics amongst your wives, you play politics amongst your children, you play politics amongst your friends, you play politics amongst people around, so politics can the pure. Just be honest.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: S A KHAIR on January 12, 2022, 12:57:37 PM
Politics can never be pure because politicans are easily corrupted.

True, politicians are very bad people and without any feeling for others, they do anything for money and power, they are capable of killing hundreds of people to stay in power and have a lot of money. we can see this in so many wars that exist in every corner of the world. What shocks me the most is how most people delude themselves with politicians. One of the main weapons that politicians use is religion, yes, politicians use religion to make their people meek

Can politics be pure, honest? This often makes us think Politics is something that is never completely pure, And now politics has reached a stage from which it is foolish to expect to return to a state of purity. The names of politicians are at the top of the list of FBI. Because they are the most corrupt. They think of ordinary people and never try to understand.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Lordhermes on January 14, 2022, 09:28:13 PM
Politics is not a good or pure game,politics is a game of the mind.It is a game in which  anything  can be done in other to win election.It is refered to as a dirty game,a game that includes life and death.

The reason why politics can never be pure is because we don't have leaders that are ready to sacrifice their truthfulness,and give his people reason to believe that his tenure is not corrupt.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Hispo on January 15, 2022, 02:59:38 AM
Politics can't be pure because it is an invention of us, human beings.
We have already proven ourselves to be very unpure as species, willing to commit attrocities for the sake of our own selfish ideas and ideals.

So no, I don't believe that politics as we know it can be pure.

Politics only exists because it is a lesser of two evils, the other option it would be chaos and anarchy, I think.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: teosanru on January 15, 2022, 05:19:51 PM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition
I think your question is very wrong in the first place. Question must be can politics be separated from our lives? Every organisation, every company, every structure which has people will always have politics, and politics is nothing but management of emotions of the people. Purity is not a trait of humans therefore politics can never be pure because it's made from people who have to convince people, it's just human greed and emotions showing up in open. So no there can never be politics without hate and envy.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Gosgosking on January 17, 2022, 08:30:52 AM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition

Politics can't be pure, I think the impurities in politics is it nature ,there is nothing that can be done about it. Like they always say politics is a dirty game which people it any how in favour of them.politics can't can't be totally be pure.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: PreciousH on January 17, 2022, 11:53:23 AM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition

I don't think politics can be pure. Because as there are many politicians who are just making false promises to audience to make better schools, colleges. However, there are also best politicians who are offering better services to the audience.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Lordhermes on January 18, 2022, 11:09:34 PM
Politics has never been pure before and can never be pure as longs as we are still in a corrupt world and generation.
Our political system is filled with deceits and liars which are all about their selfish interest and political ambitions.
All politicians put the goals of the political party first before considering the masses. After they are being elected into office they cease to acknowledge the fact that is was the masses that vote them into office and start exploiting public funds to enrich themselves. Our political system can only be pure if the politicians put the masses before their political ambitions and political party.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: belRiose on January 19, 2022, 01:46:34 AM
The political process within any society will always be corrupted where you have a devalued fiat currency. There is no possibility of any other outcome.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: hornetsnest on January 21, 2022, 12:34:59 AM
You don't get to the top in politics unless you are a cunt ;)


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Lordhermes on January 25, 2022, 10:59:13 PM
Yes of course, politics can be pure if we encourage our upcoming youth going into Government to have the love of the citizens in their heart  and not just go there for their selfish benefit. The issues we have in this country is selfishness that is why our country will never move from the same level.

And furthermore,the promises made by the people coming  into offices should be kept as promised.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: dataispower on January 26, 2022, 04:47:45 AM
Yes of course, politics can be pure if we encourage our upcoming youth going into Government to have the love of the citizens in their heart  and not just go there for their selfish benefit. The issues we have in this country is selfishness that is why our country will never move from the same level.

And furthermore,the promises made by the people coming  into offices should be kept as promised.
If you research about politics and witness or participants in elections activities you will understand why people is condemning politics, politics is involve taking away of people's live because of power, their is any account politics can be classify as pure, and secondly without godsfatherism you can not take hills of good position in politics, government has damage the pictures of sincerity in politics, their no faith no transparency in politics


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: PreciousH on January 28, 2022, 12:48:01 PM
Politics is not a dirty game, but some politicians using their power can make politics dirty. They can become pure if the government take actions against corrupt politicians. In this case, politics might become pure.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Tash on February 01, 2022, 01:12:31 PM
Politics is about as pure as the car. Nobody needs it and least of all spend large sum of money on it.
https://i.ibb.co/Qcmw4RZ/Un1.jpg (https://ibb.co/n0kJFvT)


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: hornetsnest on February 02, 2022, 12:27:57 AM
You can't become the leader unless you are a cunning ruthless cunt. If you are not a cunning ruthless cunt you won't last long in power. Politics is the devil's playground and politicans are his playmates.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: PreciousH on February 02, 2022, 12:43:06 PM
I think politics is not pure. Politics is like a leadership and power. Anyways, politicians are the ones who makes politics dirty. So politics can't be pure.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Tash on February 02, 2022, 07:07:09 PM
Law of the Land.
Every human is, by free will, a sovereign nation and self-governing.
A donkey has someone who will lead.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Lordhermes on February 02, 2022, 09:47:04 PM
Politics has never been pure before,and it can't start being pure now because those corruptions that were available before are still available now.
The people that are in power don't want to loose power, and thereby making politics to become a dirty game that takes only those that are courageous enough to run it.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Dunamisx on February 04, 2022, 07:30:00 PM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition

Politics is a dirty game, take it or leave it, many politicians do have personal hidden agenda behind every political propaganda and they tend to achieve this after their emergence into office, another fact is the persuasive influence of the cabals, those who perpetrates their victory for the position, these are the dictators that determines the outcome of every election and their actions are inevitable by the selected candidates.

There's a saying that no permanent friends in politics and no permanent enemy in politics, but get ready for the unusual of you if you dabble into politics.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Maidak on February 06, 2022, 06:44:00 PM
Yes of course, politics can be pure if we encourage our upcoming youth going into Government to have the love of the citizens in their heart  and not just go there for their selfish benefit. The issues we have in this country is selfishness that is why our country will never move from the same level.

And furthermore,the promises made by the people coming  into offices should be kept as promised.

Do you really think politics can be pure !!
This could be your fantasy man!!
Politics is something that has never been pure or will never be.  Politics is always a game of lies. Everyone is here for their own interests not for others. No one thinks about the country or the people of the country. Powerless people have always been exploited by the powerful in the world. This is the ultimate truth, the same behavior can be observed not only in humans but also in animals. When you have power in your hands you will go violent.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Tony116 on February 06, 2022, 06:53:09 PM
Politics has never been pure before and can never be pure as longs as we are still in a corrupt world and generation.
Our political system is filled with deceits and liars which are all about their selfish interest and political ambitions.
All politicians put the goals of the political party first before considering the masses. After they are being elected into office they cease to acknowledge the fact that is was the masses that vote them into office and start exploiting public funds to enrich themselves. Our political system can only be pure if the politicians put the masses before their political ambitions and political party.

That's exactly what I meant. Politics can never be pure. The most ridiculous thing is that in the country where I was born, there is so much conflict overpower that it leads to the death of the opponent, Can you imagine it!! In this digital era, People are being killed for doing good deeds for society.!! :'(

But the main principle of politics should not be a conflict of power,  it should be love for the country, sacrifice, thinking for the people, right?


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: CryptocurencyKing on February 07, 2022, 05:45:25 PM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition
Asking if politics could be pure is like, asking if the world can be united and use a single currency. We both know, that's impossible and same goes with politics.

Politics in our time has been associated with corruption that merely hearing the name, you think of corruption and as a politician, your selfishly driven towards what you can gain.

The problem is, if it ain't you, it might be your assistant else, your godfather else, someone within your cabinet. This is something that have been done over time to a point that, it has become endemic and rooting corrupt practices out of politics seems like an impossible task.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Gosgosking on February 28, 2022, 10:48:56 PM
Politics can't be pure, the way politics is I think that is the nature. It has always been like this because of people who are involved in it are only there for their selfish interest. Politics is a game for the strong who are so desperate to get any position by all means.
Politics is not pure that is why politicians fight each other to gain a position.




Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: sunsilk on March 01, 2022, 05:06:33 PM
Politics is a game for the strong who are so desperate to get any position by all means.
And as well as for the meek who have a platform to serve their people for real, a willing heart to serve without thinking about the consequences that one might take.

Politics is not pure that is why politicians fight each other to gain a position.
In a sense that there are politicians that are willing to do anything they want for their own gain. Sadly, there are places that becomes violent when the election and campaign period is near. That makes it that politics isn't really pure at all.

No matter what these politicians want to have a clear politics, still, there will be instances that wouldn't make it pure.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: KingScorpio on March 01, 2022, 05:53:02 PM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition

politics in the divine sense can only be pure if the ruler meant by god is in absolute power.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: D ltr on March 02, 2022, 03:07:55 PM
depending on the situation and conditions I think, where if the people are clean from corruption, surely the government will be free from corruption
so is politics
Basically politics is just a place where people seek dishonesty for personal and group wealth
if not mutually beneficial discarded
Honestly, it's hard to express pure politics because the reality is that it's been labeled as bad and dirty which is called politics


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: KingScorpio on March 02, 2022, 05:45:51 PM
Politics to be pure you have the legendary King Arthur to be Fighting the war between Good and Evil,

with King Arthur having the Authority and the Defining power over what is Good and what is Evil and no one else, not the jews, not the Russians, not even President Putin


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Lordhermes on March 05, 2022, 02:57:45 PM
Yes,politics can be pure if it is free of  corruption, and bribery.It is only a corrupt free nation that will that will conduct election or do the things of politics without those evil acts that they do.
A corrupt nation is one that  has all these corrupt practices like bribery,nepotism,political infiltration and so on,and when all this practices are put into election just to attain a certain position,it makes the system so unpure.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Masplanc on March 07, 2022, 11:37:28 PM
Many people see politics as a ground  where money can be made quickly,  most people join politics having a motive of having money.  Due to the money involved in politics politicians kill themselves to occupy certain position. When politics is mentioned all what comes from the mind is money. As far as politics involve money it can't be totally pure.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: famososMuertos on March 08, 2022, 01:48:43 AM
Many people see politics as a ground  where money can be made quickly,  most people join politics having a motive of having money.  Due to the money involved in politics politicians kill themselves to occupy certain position. When politics is mentioned all what comes from the mind is money. As far as politics involve money it can't be totally pure.
It is not always about money, it is the individuals who are transformed by ambitions for power, control, that is intrinsic in the human being, politicians are stigmatized with that profile because they are the ones who best "shine".

Fortunately for humanity, not all individuals become such beasts, in the political plane that concerns us in this case, it is where, perhaps due to the massive capacity of mistreatment in their decision-making, it is that they stand out more, but are others politics who must reveal itself at some point in the face of the twisted ideas that harm societies, but it turns out that insubordination does not exist in the chain of command, because it turns out that the tail of political beasts that are there have been threatened and/or manipulated, some even with intentions to provide continuity in the event that the senior leader fails.



Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Agbe on March 10, 2022, 10:13:01 PM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition

Politics can never be pure, it has the element of winners take all. With the ideology of winners take all, the opposition party will have hatred, and envy.

It is a dirty game because most time, the politicians stain their hands to take over power.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Quintom on March 11, 2022, 02:15:38 AM
There's no need for big grammars and too many talks.... Politics can never be pure, it will remain a dirty game, a do or die affair.
I think the only time politics can be pure is when real Christians have taken over the leadership, and when will this happen??
Politics remains impure as the day goes by.
We pray it doesn't get worse than this.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: dataispower on March 11, 2022, 08:21:47 AM
Politics is a dirty game that is full of injustice and manipulation in all angle, from the looks of things politics never one day be pure, it can only be pure if government restructure the way of things in politics, during elections period politicians bring themselves so low to the level that everyone will reach them and support them, but immediately after election politics now became devil were by people don't have to bring or present their own suggestions over government, from my observation what corrupt a country or nation is politics as kinds of leadership, politics almost ninety nine sure of impurity and corrupt


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: dark1234 on March 12, 2022, 11:42:45 AM
the political world has taken root with dirty hands, if not, then be prepared for them to be oppressed and removed. but if they are strong and not eliminated then he will be a hero and recorded as an unforgettable history as an honest leader and loved by his people
but seeing the selfishness of a politician who seeks wealth and glory, it is very difficult to purify a flower into perfume.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Blended@ on March 12, 2022, 08:19:38 PM
Hmmmm politics pure ke,nothing like pure in politic oooooo in term of poison the follow political in the name of power,my brother whosoever that is a play politics is hand is not pure,because so many of them  without staining their hand to something the will not recognize them so they must joint in order to be recongnizs,is only the few one that will not joint and the will not reach like the one that joint


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Markinzo on March 13, 2022, 03:27:06 PM
I am not wrong to say, politics affects everyone in diverse ways in our day_to_day activities, it has occupied a centrality in all human affairs even though the concept itself remains nebulous.

Today when we talk about politics, all eyes are fixed on politicians but politics transient beyond that, politics even takes place in our various homes, bedrooms, kitchen etc ( in the way duties are shared to everyone in the home, knowing our roles/responsibilities and rewards is politics itself).

According to "(Contemporary Political Analysis_ an introduction_ by Professor Nekabari J. Ntete_Nna, PhD).,  Okoli and Okoli (1990) explained, that the misconception of politics as a "dirty game", by many may have stemmed from the corrupt and dishonest "behavior of politicians who usually regard their call for National Service as a buccaneering expedition for personal enrichment, for personal aggrandizement and personal group protection".

The way politics is been played by today's politicians and recent decades politicians has made many see no good in politics rather than it being a dirty game of hate and envy even to the killings of oppositions. Which although true in that light follow the recent occurrences.

But in the real intent of politics from the beginning, was for the promotion of community justice, unlike what we see in our present world.
 


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: tvbcof on April 03, 2022, 07:19:22 PM

I've been toying with the idea of having 'Democracy' of a form where politicians are chosen in the same way people get selected for Jury Duty in the U.S..

The big difference would be that one gets paid a fuck-load of money for putting up with the disruption and hassle of participating in governance.  Complementing this would be a situation where if a selected person gets caught in any sort of corruption, they do a lot of hard time in a real prison.

I honestly believe that randomly chosen people would do a much better job of governing that professional politicians.  At least those offered to us as 'choices' under the current form of 'democracy' enjoyed in the United States.



Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: CryptocurencyKing on April 03, 2022, 08:33:00 PM
The day you see politics being pure in any part of the world, that means its going to come with a different brand name!

Obviously, one mention of the world politics and corruption, cheating, nepotism, crime and even murder comes to your mind. It's become dangerous and dirty to the point that, you have people eager to advice you not to venture there by thinking of going into politics and others would ask if your ready to bare the stunts that comes with opposition and other propagandas within the cabinet.

The truth is, where there is money involved, there is always going to be a system of fowl play and that's politics for us when it comes to governance of a nation. Its never going to be fair.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Gosgosking on April 04, 2022, 10:14:24 PM
As far as it is not one person aspiring for a position  to contest in politics it will always be some thing of  do or die affai, this is when we have people who are selfish because of to gain  their  interests they will definitely be unsure to  do anything  to get what they want. Politics is a place where everyone is alert and tough not to be a looser


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Desmong on April 04, 2022, 10:19:32 PM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition
Politics is full of impurities and we'll should be aware of this. The politicians do involve themselves into evil things that will empower the to have more influences so they can be able to win elections and have control over their desires. Those that are in politics especially the ones in power do make sacrifices so they can win elections against their counterparts. In country, election winners is not always by votes counts but through systematic rigging.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Tash on April 05, 2022, 06:16:08 AM

Oh., its pure alright and demo-crazy works very well as long as you are not a minority
https://i.ibb.co/dPfFHSP/2022-04-04-172255-1280x800-scrot.png (https://imgbb.com/)


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: dataispower on April 06, 2022, 01:30:12 AM
As far as it is not one person aspiring for a position  to contest in politics it will always be some thing of  do or die affai, this is when we have people who are selfish because of to gain  their  interests they will definitely be unsure to  do anything  to get what they want. Politics is a place where everyone is alert and tough not to be a looser
No one who is dependent can survive into politics, and i understand that why politics is tough and tougher is because no body gives political power to any body, because what makes some one a politician is the power to taken from some body, this base's makes politics not be pure because everyone is looking the same position and when you loose the position your reputation will be eliminated and that is why politics is about do and die affairs, no politics is pure both circular politics and religion's politics


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: hornetsnest on April 06, 2022, 09:59:08 AM

Oh., its pure alright and demo-crazy works very well as long as you are not a minority
https://i.ibb.co/dPfFHSP/2022-04-04-172255-1280x800-scrot.png (https://imgbb.com/)

There is no such thing as democracy. It is plutocracy where the the haves protect their interests from the have nots giving the masses the impression they are in charge of the decision making process. "Democracy" is among the masses only and allows popular opinions and cultures already designed for the plebs to rule over them through majority opinion. The media or public discourse and entertainment industry is designed for these functions. The masses have NO say in who owns them and their future. They only get to choose their supervisors the majority of whom are selected as acceptable canditates by the factions that run each state. These factions in turn are subjects of the legacy factions.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Bamjos on April 10, 2022, 07:07:37 PM
Yes, politics can be pure. In actual sense it's not politics that needs to be pure but the heart of those involved in it (both citizens and politicians), especially the politicians that are in position of power. Once the heart of the ones in political offices are pure, politics itself will definitely be pure.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Proro on April 11, 2022, 12:00:32 PM
Politics is not suppose to be dirty, but the men playing it makes it look like a war front, whereby one part tries to win an election even when most of the mass are against them.

Instead of the loser to embrace the winner and congratulate him/her and look for a way to work together and better the life of the masses, they will start making things difficult for the winner.

So I will say the game isn't bad but rather the players are bad at heart!


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: paxmao on April 24, 2022, 11:28:50 PM

Oh., its pure alright and demo-crazy works very well as long as you are not a minority
https://i.ibb.co/dPfFHSP/2022-04-04-172255-1280x800-scrot.png

There is no such thing as democracy. It is plutocracy where the the haves protect their interests from the have nots giving the masses the impression they are in charge of the decision making process. "Democracy" is among the masses only and allows popular opinions and cultures already designed for the plebs to rule over them through majority opinion. The media or public discourse and entertainment industry is designed for these functions. The masses have NO say in who owns them and their future. They only get to choose their supervisors the majority of whom are selected as acceptable canditates by the factions that run each state. These factions in turn are subjects of the legacy factions.

https://martin-h.weebly.com/uploads/3/8/6/9/38692791/1417488534.png

...
Oh., its pure alright and demo-crazy works very well as long as you are not a minority
...

If you are a minority, you still have your individual rights. If you are a minority trying to rule over a majority that is a Dictatorship. It is curious how you defend Putin all over the forum and have something to say about oppressing minorities. Just stick to posting fakes, political philosophy is not your thing and you may hurt yourself trying this at home.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Ebede on April 25, 2022, 09:31:41 AM
Politics is not suppose to be dirty, but the men playing it makes it look like a war front, whereby one part tries to win an election even when most of the mass are against them.
If politics is not supposed to be dirty game what is supposed to be dirty game if i should granted the right to ask? The worst thing i have ever ever seen is the badness of politics, politics is what we see and practice very day in our human and organizations, if we practice such in the house how does it look like, every thing of politics is bad and it is reason they kill during elections time to get power


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: CryptocurencyKing on April 25, 2022, 07:14:01 PM
There is no such thing as democracy. It is plutocracy where the the haves protect their interests from the have nots giving the masses the impression they are in charge of the decision making process. "Democracy" is among the masses only and allows popular opinions and cultures already designed for the plebs to rule over them through majority opinion.
Democracy could have been nice and probably the best form or government but in reality as we have it today, is that... There is no such thing as democracy. Its some idea in our head of which, its manifestation is questioned to the simplest principle.

There have not been one credible election in a democratic government in my nation and yet, we claim to practice Democracy. Where the rich and those in places of power demonstrate all sort of corrupt practices and still get to get away with it. Questions might be asked, if at all  and in no time, it all would be forgotten without any proper forwarding. Democracy is one of the biggest deception in government.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Spontaneous on May 01, 2022, 12:09:01 AM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy for opposition

   We can not say politics is pure they just think what the aim and benefit they will achieve cause their goal is to get people to believe until they get the people to bet and trust. They will rule in a cruel aspect an people have no Idea on what vision on their community because their where just a blind of fact. The problem if people they just vote a politician who are not reliable an who buy their voting. So I stand politics can't be a pure.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Gosgosking on May 02, 2022, 10:16:52 PM
There is no such thing as democracy. It is plutocracy where the the haves protect their interests from the have nots giving the masses the impression they are in charge of the decision making process. "Democracy" is among the masses only and allows popular opinions and cultures already designed for the plebs to rule over them through majority opinion.
Democracy could have been nice and probably the best form or government but in reality as we have it today, is that... There is no such thing as democracy. Its some idea in our head of which, its manifestation is questioned to the simplest principle.

There have not been one credible election in a democratic government in my nation and yet, we claim to practice Democracy. Where the rich and those in places of power demonstrate all sort of corrupt practices and still get to get away with it. Questions might be asked, if at all  and in no time, it all would be forgotten without any proper forwarding. Democracy is one of the biggest deception in government.

What is refer to be democracy is not in the real life, democracy is said to be free of speech to address what is not right in the society,  democracy is said to belong for everybody but it seems that democracy is been practice by one set of people in the society. The common people in the society are not experiencing the real democracy,  the main definition of democracy.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: meser# on May 02, 2022, 10:30:59 PM
The question reminded me an amusing anecdote:

Once upon a time, a prostitute and a politician were arguing. The politician said, 'I have never been bribed. Prostitute answered " I'm a prostitute for 30 years, but I'm still virgin."



Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Israelgogo on May 13, 2022, 09:48:31 AM
So many of this young aspiring politicians have a pour mindset to work for the betterment of it's citizens and uplift the right human rights but little do they know that ,it a different ball game entirely, politics is full of cabals and they determine what happens and how the country will be ruled.they control ever parastatals, Politics is a dirty game ,if you can't beat them, you join them or else you see yourself out of the office and get behind,those who go there with genuine intentions later becomes one of them due to the already existing corrupt system.
Pure politics is hardly experienced, only 10% out of 100% ,you become a politician and yet poor for exercising pour politics.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Masplanc on May 16, 2022, 11:03:00 PM
So many of this young aspiring politicians have a pour mindset to work for the betterment of it's citizens and uplift the right human rights but little do they know that ,it a different ball game entirely, politics is full of cabals and they determine what happens and how the country will be ruled.they control ever parastatals, Politics is a dirty game ,if you can't beat them, you join them or else you see yourself out of the office and get behind,those who go there with genuine intentions later becomes one of them due to the already existing corrupt system.
Pure politics is hardly experienced, only 10% out of 100% ,you become a politician and yet poor for exercising pour politics.

Politics is now a lucrative business that many want to go into, they don't mind how much they will spend knowing that if they should succeed from Politics they will make a lot of money from it . People don't aspire for Political post because they are willing to work and serve the people,  what they are going after is to make money for their generation to come.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: brother brother on May 07, 2023, 12:57:53 PM
Politce is a very dangerous game on those who go into it, everyone wants to get into control and power, in Africa, politicians want to get into power and position with every possible means, they care about themselves and family only. Majority of the Africans politicans are after their own personal selfish interest not minding or caring for the citizens.

The process they took and get into power by all means are evil because majority of them kills and they are ready to kill more, looking at it this way politics in such ways and manner can never be pure.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Ebede on May 08, 2023, 04:56:08 PM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition
Politics is nothing people do with a good conscience, i have never seen someone who is a politician that works with government with free hand, that's why politicians do ugly things to make sure that power remains in their hands or within their circule, i believe that politicians are deadly and before they can be open to someone it take time, politics is not pure and it's hard before politics can be pure.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Desmong on May 08, 2023, 09:59:57 PM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy for opposition

   We can not say politics is pure they just think what the aim and benefit they will achieve cause their goal is to get people to believe until they get the people to bet and trust. They will rule in a cruel aspect an people have no Idea on what vision on their community because their where just a blind of fact. The problem if people they just vote a politician who are not reliable an who buy their voting. So I stand politics can't be a pure.
How can politics be pure when the evil of men would never ends. There are many things that are happening in the politics world but we might not know now because of many news are not being spread because of the effect it might cause in the society.
There are many things going wrong and we just have to be very careful to keep things safe so it will not escalate to conflict or civil war.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Newlifebtc on May 08, 2023, 10:00:13 PM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition
Politics is nothing people do with a good conscience, i have never seen someone who is a politician that works with government with free hand, that's why politicians do ugly things to make sure that power remains in their hands or within their circule, i believe that politicians are deadly and before they can be open to someone it take time, politics is not pure and it's hard before politics can be pure.
Politics can be pure when we have a good selected people in politics so there is some certain things I understand in politics not every person who is the politician is the key person or is a bad person in positive at least we have some good people who is into politics that is doing well that can defend the interests of her people in any angle of government


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: ftopikit on May 17, 2023, 05:16:14 AM
NO, there will always be dirty games and dishonest indicators. They will never be able to honestly divide the power or the economy of income from their position.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Belarge on May 19, 2023, 05:42:50 AM
To me I think Politics is a pure game, a game of you either win or you lose, but it's just that it's our Politicians that have turned politics into a game of death or life because of their hunger for power and other selfish interest, I see no reason why a politician who knows he/she has no charisma to lead would run for an electoral position and want to bribe inec or maybe do anything human possible, using other vices( using thugs,, money, crisis) to win an election, if you feel you have charisma, then do your pure campaign and allow the people to choose their representative with their voters card.

Politics is a pure game that is played by dirty Politicians...


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Rockstarguy on May 20, 2023, 07:46:39 AM
The question reminded me an amusing anecdote:

Once upon a time, a prostitute and a politician were arguing. The politician said, 'I have never been bribed. Prostitute answered " I'm a prostitute for 30 years, but I'm still virgin."


It just impossible to be honest. Concerning what op is asking, politics can't be what the way op thinks politics should be, expecially in this recent times. We all know what will be the benefits handling any political seat, this is why politicians can't be polite and friendly to each other.  The selfish interests will always be a reason why they must fight each other to get their personal achievement in politics. This is how politics is and nothing can change it.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Lordhermes on May 20, 2023, 03:02:09 PM
Op didn't defined the kind of purity he is talking about, politics is game not to be play morally. it's has to do with the strong minds. If you want to be pure go to the church or mosque. The society itself isn't pure and the people therein are not pure too, so how do you expect the leaders to be pure? We must understand that politics is a game of interest, once your interest are not achieved they tagged it evil. But once they benefit it's working.
We only seek for fair game, not do and die game. Once you lose you should accept and if you win all everyone alone, that alone will bring sanity to the game.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Alisha-k on May 21, 2023, 01:08:55 PM
Can politics be pure?


Isn't politics pure if it's pure politics?


Simply said, Political Science is a method for convincing people to believe something, no matter what it is.


8)
politics is nothing near being pure, there's even an adage that says politics is a dirty game and so all that wants to be part of it has to be dirty as well...

It involves so many envy and jealousy that involves fightings, rituals that requires human bloods that's why, in my country, people dread the election period more than the anyother time or season..

PS, this may not be relatable to your country.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Desmong on May 22, 2023, 07:57:57 PM
The question reminded me an amusing anecdote:

Once upon a time, a prostitute and a politician were arguing. The politician said, 'I have never been bribed. Prostitute answered " I'm a prostitute for 30 years, but I'm still virgin."


There are many things happening in the world that is why we need to get prepared for the worse thing to happen because our politicians are just there to spoil the system and do things the way they likes. People are suffering and sometimes we do hear from the news that a big amount of money is been used to do some certain things which may not be true. We need to wise up and not allow politicains to use us for something illegal just because of the money they will give to us.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Youngkhngdiddy on May 23, 2023, 09:17:47 AM
Politics is associated with the governance of a country where by several parties debate to have power, lately alot of people think politics is a dirty game due to the violence and greedy quest for power by most politicians, but I think politics can be pure if those politicking abide by the rule of law, without violence and carry out a peaceful coexistence with their opposition parties.

In what way is politics pure and noble?
Politics can be pure and noble in several ways. At its best, politics is a means of serving the common good and advancing the interests of society as a whole. Politicians who approach their work with integrity and a sense of duty can make a positive difference in the lives of their constituents and leave a lasting legacy of good governance.
Here are some ways in which politics can be pure and noble:

1. Public service: Politics can be seen as a noble profession because it involves serving the public and making decisions that impact the lives of citizens. Elected officials have the opportunity to work for the greater good and to help shape the future of their communities and countries.
2. Leadership: Politicians have the ability to provide leadership and to inspire others to work towards a common goal. Effective political leaders can rally people around important issues and mobilize public support for positive change.
3. Advocacy: Politics can be used as a means of advocacy for marginalized or vulnerable groups. Politicians who champion the cause of the disadvantaged can help to level the playing field and promote greater social justice.
Diplomacy: Political leaders can engage in diplomacy and international relations to promote peace, stability, and cooperation between nations. Diplomatic efforts can help to resolve conflicts, prevent wars, and promote global prosperity.
4. Civic engagement: Politics can also be a way to encourage civic engagement and participation. By creating avenues for citizen participation in the political process, politicians can foster a sense of ownership and empowerment among citizens, leading to greater civic pride and a stronger democracy.
Of course, not all politics is pure and noble. Corruption, self-interest, and partisanship can all undermine the ideals of good governance and public service. But at its best, politics can be a force for good, advancing the common good and creating a better world for all.
Joel S, (2023) Februay 27
https://www.quora.com/In-what-way-is-politics-pure-and-noble?top_ans=1477743644762507



Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Doan9269 on May 26, 2023, 02:52:46 PM
NO, there will always be dirty games and dishonest indicators. They will never be able to honestly divide the power or the economy of income from their position.

Why then do we have hope if we don't believe that things can truly change for good, there have been some certain stages of life where things have gone bad and worst than expected, many have died and the politicians have also persihed along, this is not a matter of calibre or status, sometimes things go wrong and everyone is affected, those we need to rule us are the ones that will always have the interest of the people on mind before theirs and leave by example.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: martyns on May 27, 2023, 08:10:45 PM
NO, there will always be dirty games and dishonest indicators. They will never be able to honestly divide the power or the economy of income from their position.

Why then do we have hope if we don't believe that things can truly change for good, there have been some certain stages of life where things have gone bad and worst than expected, many have died and the politicians have also persihed along, this is not a matter of calibre or status, sometimes things go wrong and everyone is affected, those we need to rule us are the ones that will always have the interest of the people on mind before theirs and leave by example.
They might look like they are good at the beginning or while trying to emerge  into power,but when when once they are being appointed into the various positions,they will act according to what suits them,and no longer the will of the people.Politics nowadays is something one can never predict,or it's now something one  can never put mind on because the leaders constantly fail us,and most atimes cause trouble in the heart of citizens.I stoped supporting anything that has to do with politics because I have had a lot of heart breaks from it.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Newlifebtc on May 29, 2023, 09:39:38 PM
The system of politics cannot make politics to be pure I believe that the politics can never be here because of each way of operation so many people can say that politics is not pure from my understanding and the way I'm seeing politics in my society politics can never be pure and is not pure based on the people who is the leader of politics or government in my area


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Ebede on May 29, 2023, 10:01:00 PM
We understand government and their politics the way they give us because there is a place you go or country that you find yourself you will see that the government or the leadership of the country is very different from the country you find yourself so when you use the level of commitment and the criticism people apply in their own country to compare to another country you see that maybe politics might not be pure in your country but in another person's country all it is is pure because they respect humanity


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Iadegbola34 on May 30, 2023, 11:01:36 AM
Is it possible to avoid negativity in politics? Is it possible to have politics in which neither hatred nor jealousy exists for the opposition? Yes, this is possible. Despite the fact that politics is sometimes fraught with strife and hate, we can aim for a better kind of politics. We can build a pleasant and inclusive political atmosphere by fostering courteous discourse, empathy, and finding common ground.




Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: collinscoinz on May 30, 2023, 11:04:21 AM
Politics is a different kind of process which has its own cruel rules they are expressing their desire to build a corruption free parliament with the big corrupt people. They know very well that the politics they do is not possible to get close to the edge of the parliament no one knows them in the realm of political society people have nothing to do with the calculation of their wants and needs. It is hoped that civil society will make new politics of political society this politics is not politics for the masses,so far as am concerned, politices is not pure at all,How can politics be pure when the evil of men would never ends. There are many things that are happening in the politics world but we might not know now because of many news are not being spread because of the effect it might cause in the society.
There are many things going wrong and we just have to be very careful to keep things safe so it will not escalate to conflict or civil war.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Ever-young on March 31, 2024, 09:13:21 AM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition

Well, in my opinion, politics in real life may be complex and convoluted, making it difficult to stay away from dirty games and hostility. However, I believe that we should constantly aim for the ideal, even if we are aware that it is not always achievable. And, while politics may be filthy and unpleasant at times, I believe it is still a vital component of our society. Politics exists to help us make decisions and solve issues.

One notion I've heard is to have increased ranked-choice voting, in which individuals rank their options rather than simply selecting one candidate. This may assist to minimize the division that we witness in politics today.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: oktana on March 31, 2024, 11:53:06 AM
Never. It is impossible that there won’t be some form of hate, grudge, jealously, and every bad emotion there can be. And it’s because we are all humans with different viewpoints. The person you believe can handle the nation may be the person who I strongly think can’t handle a city, And someone has to win in politics. At the end, someone has to be pissed off because it’s not what they wanted and will go ahead to hate the person in power.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: KupaCrypto on April 01, 2024, 04:43:44 AM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition
Politics can't be entirely pure, because it's like a competition, you have to do what will make you win, there is a big difference between politics and governance, politics can not be pure, but governance can be pure, our politicians just have to prioritise good governance over politics, that way our society will be better .


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Hispo on April 01, 2024, 09:38:22 AM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition
Politics can't be entirely pure, because it's like a competition, you have to do what will make you win, there is a big difference between politics and governance, politics can not be pure, but governance can be pure, our politicians just have to prioritise good governance over politics, that way our society will be better .

Though. There are competitions where people actually follow the rules and are less likely to cheat one another in order to win, but I agree it is very difficult for politicia to be pure; there are countries where politicians are more honest than in others, one cannot simply compare politics in countries like China or Japan to politics in Brazil or Venezuela.
The problem of politics are not other but the human nature to seek for power and money, hence why there is corruption. That is why some people argue it could be possible for politics to be pure if tools as Artificial Inteligence got implemented to do governance, instead of human politicians, though it sounds rather like a dystopian scenario I would not like to explore in the short term, to be honest.

Also, as a point of comparison. If some Churches can be dirty (because of pastors which commit blatant sins and even crimes like abusing of little children) what could we expect from some politicians who are not attached to a specific set of values whatsoever?.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: moneystery on April 01, 2024, 10:00:01 AM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition

as long as politics is related to humans, it will never be pure because of the natural nature of humans who are greedy, bring each other down, and so on, and this is what makes politics unable to be pure as many people desire.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Majestic-milf on April 01, 2024, 11:23:54 AM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition
Not possible. Else it will defeat the purpose of it. Humans are naturally insatiable and as such will always want something and since power is a powerful drug, everyone will do anything to get high from it. A drug addict can't stay without his daily fix, same thing with a politician, anything to remain in power will be done by them and I don't think you can achieve this by playing nice or being a goody two shoes.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Wakate on April 01, 2024, 03:00:24 PM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy for opposition

   We can not say politics is pure they just think what the aim and benefit they will achieve cause their goal is to get people to believe until they get the people to bet and trust. They will rule in a cruel aspect an people have no Idea on what vision on their community because their where just a blind of fact. The problem if people they just vote a politician who are not reliable an who buy their voting. So I stand politics can't be a pure.
politics can be deadly if we don't know how to play the game especially with the opponent that has the experience and can do anything to get to the seat. This is a game of sense and we should always think and make proper planning before taking any move at all. We need to be focused as someone that is coming up in politics so that we don't end up doing things that is not going to take us to where we are meant to be.

 There are politicians that are just after the wealth they will gathered when they get to that position and are not ready to do anything at all. They are after packing the funds and use it to buy houses, travel and enjoy themselves. Although this kind of things happens in under developed or developing countries.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Zanab247 on April 01, 2024, 04:24:35 PM
Quote from: oktana
Never. It is impossible that there won’t be some form of hate, grudge, jealously, and every bad emotion there can be. And it’s because we are all humans with different viewpoints. The person you believe can handle the nation may be the person who I strongly think can’t handle a city, And someone has to win in politics. At the end, someone has to be pissed off because it’s not what they wanted and will go ahead to hate the person in power.
If such thing happen in politics, it will not make many people to go into politics because they believe that those are some of the things masses want to hear from every politician that comes around them and, if you by mistake tell them the truth, just that you want to be a pure politician, it will be difficult for such politician to win their election.

Many politicians use jealousy, lies and fight to achieve their goal in politics because they know that is what make some followers believe that the person really love them and he or she will do all the things he has promised the society when he resume office.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Mrcool75 on April 02, 2024, 05:20:38 PM
I don't think so.  I think politics can never stop the dirty game behind it.  There will be violence and hatred in politics.  It will not decrease but will increase day by day,,,


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Dunamisx on April 02, 2024, 05:55:14 PM
We can have a pure practice of politics of those involved are by themselves being pure a d truthful in all they do, corruption is one of the main factors affecting many politicians because they have to pay obeisance to those that contributed to how they emerge into office and have to do according to their dictates, no one can emerge a winner into any political office without having the interest of the people in mind, but the path through which he emerges will not allow under the cartel so called calibres.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Zoomic on April 02, 2024, 07:28:03 PM
We can have a pure practice of politics of those involved are by themselves being pure a d truthful in all they do, corruption is one of the main factors affecting many politicians because they have to pay obeisance to those that contributed to how they emerge into office and have to do according to their dictates, no one can emerge a winner into any political office without having the interest of the people in mind, but the path through which he emerges will not allow under the cartel so called calibres.

A single person cannot run a pure and clean politics alone, if he tries to do it alone, it will be as good as not trying at all because his efforts will be ruined by the majority corrupt cartel members in his circle. A perfect politics devoid of corruption, dishonesty, betrayal and deceit can only be achieved by collective efforts by all those directly and indirectly involved in politics (not just limited to the cartel members). And as we know,  humans will always be humans, it will be quite difficult for everyone to agree to a just course because many will be pushed by greed to trade their integrity and act against the wishes of the people they are representing or intend to represent. We cannot force everyone to be upright, for this reason,  politics cannot be pure.



Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: oktana on April 02, 2024, 08:50:37 PM
Quote from: oktana
Never. It is impossible that there won’t be some form of hate, grudge, jealously, and every bad emotion there can be. And it’s because we are all humans with different viewpoints. The person you believe can handle the nation may be the person who I strongly think can’t handle a city, And someone has to win in politics. At the end, someone has to be pissed off because it’s not what they wanted and will go ahead to hate the person in power.
If such thing happen in politics, it will not make many people to go into politics because they believe that those are some of the things masses want to hear from every politician that comes around them and, if you by mistake tell them the truth, just that you want to be a pure politician, it will be difficult for such politician to win their election.

Many politicians use jealousy, lies and fight to achieve their goal in politics because they know that is what make some followers believe that the person really love them and he or she will do all the things he has promised the society when he resume office.

I am not sure I understand what you mean. A politician who has good intentions and is honest about it should rather win than lose. In fact to win you need to show that you have good intentions (even when you don’t). So honesty about the wellbeing of the country or whatever terrain doesn’t hinder but fuels winning.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: TEBTC on April 02, 2024, 09:04:24 PM
Politics can never be pure as the concepts of politics from the ancient Greeks society was who gets what how and when
Politics is just some few persons trying to control the few resources of the masses


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Loveday422 on April 03, 2024, 01:27:11 PM
Politics can never be pure, because in every 12 their must be a juder someone his mined set will not be the same as yours ,they said the mined of all soja's are not the same , because many are called why few are choosen so in this case their is nothing they will do in this country that politics can be pure ,it's called a dirty game, because it's not realible


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Obulis on April 03, 2024, 02:36:17 PM
Politics can be at least good but can't be pure.
It being good can now check between dirty politics


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Essential10 on April 04, 2024, 08:35:22 AM
Politics has never been pure since the birth of the world and I don't think it will be in the future. When a major incident occurs on a political issue like a student killing, everyone starts talking about their dirty politics. Such incidents created uproar in the country for quite some time and protests started against playing dirty in the name of politics. At a stage there is no one to protest, people forget because political power prolongs the process of punishing the guilty by the judiciary. Politics is tainted by power struggles, corruption and vested interests, it can never be purified.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Kliss on April 04, 2024, 09:16:06 AM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition

Politics can get messy sometimes, but that doesn't mean that it will go dirty always. I believe politics can be pure if the people involved focuses on the betterment and wellbeing of the society and work together without Hate or Envy for the opposition and With the right mindset and values. There are examples leaders who show elements of purity e.g

1. Nelson Mandela, who played a Vital role in South Africa's transition to democracy. Mandela advocated for reconciliation, forgiveness, and equality, even after years of imprisonment. Mandela's leadership was characterized by his commitment to reconciliation and nation-building. He is widely regarded as a symbol of peace and equality.

2. Mahatma Gandhi's leadership during India's struggle for independence. Gandhi emphasized nonviolence, truth, and equality, and his political approach was rooted in peaceful resistance and the pursuit of justice.
 
These are leaders who demonstrated that politics can be played with a genuine desire.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Uhwuchukwu53 on April 04, 2024, 10:05:46 AM
Never. It is impossible that there won’t be some form of hate, grudge, jealously, and every bad emotion there can be. And it’s because we are all humans with different viewpoints. The person you believe can handle the nation may be the person who I strongly think can’t handle a city, And someone has to win in politics. At the end, someone has to be pissed off because it’s not what they wanted and will go ahead to hate the person in power.

Yes your very correct, my opinion is that as long as human heart is hidden and can't be read by the face, it's impossible to deal away with it .

Why is it called politics the smartest ability to convince the people, allot is involved,this includes criticism,lies, witch-hunting opponent, buying of cartels or carbas to be mentioned but few.

Many hidden things in politics , it's as origin as many as allot to be reference as politics happened in some area in the spiritual that one don't need ask why it's so, example story if esu and Jacob, Ishmael and Isaac, in my view it's political because smartness played out.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Maestro75 on April 04, 2024, 11:49:45 AM
Is it possible to avoid negativity in politics? Is it possible to have politics in which neither hatred nor jealousy exists for the opposition? Yes, this is possible.

Politics without envy is not possible and that is because there is always losers. Anyone who loses a contest will not be happy that they lost. That is why envy comes in, although most of them in civilized Europe will pretend they are not feeling bad when they lose. In Africa, it is that bad that losers can go on a witchhunt and killing of their opponents. It is obvious knowledge.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Marvelockg on April 04, 2024, 01:55:07 PM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition
there is nothing as that even in a theoretical sense. Do you know how much candidates and politicians spend just to win election? You think after spending such amount they will sit back relaxing for things to go out anyway?  Politics has never been a friendly game that's void of envy and so thier no two ways about it. If you want to get involved in politics, be ready to come along with all you've got cause power isn't gotten by mere wishing.

But another thing to also consider is, can  the electoral system work in such a way  that it would be void of manipulation and physical combat? Certainly yes, but no one wants a straight process where the will of the masses prevail and the winner is one that's the most qualified or he his the one that has the highest number of votes. It would have been a good thing if stuff like that happens but the reality is that we are far from witnessing such thing and the reality still remains that we might never come to a point where the whole electionary process can be void of envy and opposition. What makes politics beautiful is the fact that opposition are available which makes it's competitive scenario that aims at making each of the parties involved to sight time and put in the effort of they are interested in securing the seat.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: AVE5 on April 04, 2024, 02:46:00 PM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition

Politics that was meant to be a social game that winner takes the crown and the looser humbly accept the defeat with all being equal of putting all hands on deck for better governance without being biased has becomes do or die affair that everyone wants to win with all cost without undermining the disasters it may cause to the society at the virtue of compulsory measures of taking the crown 👑.
Game of personal interests has invoked in the political systems which can't be undo instead more political bigots are in making where it affects everyone interested in politics.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Zanab247 on April 04, 2024, 03:45:54 PM
Quote from: Masplanc
As far as there are opposition in politics who to stand against politics will always be a dirty game. Every politian want to be in the winning equation, this mindset brings selfishness to get power by all means. No politician choose or desire to be a failure or looser. Like they say every politian fights for his selfish interest. At this point I'll say politics can't be totally pure but it can be partially pure. It is only few people policians in the political system that are partially pure
If there will not be opposition, I guess politics will be pure because nothing will make the party to do some things that will bring fight and hate among the members and anyone that lose at the moment it will not cause war in the society.

But as long there is an opposition in the party the politics will never be pure in the society because, the two parties will be doing some things that will make the members to begin to see each other as enemies and they can do anything to destroy each other because their leaders has use money and lies to change their minds.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: |MINER| on April 04, 2024, 05:04:13 PM
Politics can never be clean.  Politics in most countries are corrupt.  Because greed for power.  Because of the greed of power, people make various promises before coming to power. But once they come to power, they don't remember those promises.  And involved in various types of corruption.  However, this does not apply to the leaders of all countries.  Some countries have leaders who still care about the people and run a clean country.  And they do not engage in corruption.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: oktana on April 04, 2024, 10:36:28 PM
Never. It is impossible that there won’t be some form of hate, grudge, jealously, and every bad emotion there can be. And it’s because we are all humans with different viewpoints. The person you believe can handle the nation may be the person who I strongly think can’t handle a city, And someone has to win in politics. At the end, someone has to be pissed off because it’s not what they wanted and will go ahead to hate the person in power.

Yes your very correct, my opinion is that as long as human heart is hidden and can't be read by the face, it's impossible to deal away with it .

Why is it called politics the smartest ability to convince the people, allot is involved,this includes criticism,lies, witch-hunting opponent, buying of cartels or carbas to be mentioned but few.

Many hidden things in politics , it's as origin as many as allot to be reference as politics happened in some area in the spiritual that one don't need ask why it's so, example story if esu and Jacob, Ishmael and Isaac, in my view it's political because smartness played out.

I don’t know about the spiritual on this subject. Some people who are on seat may not be spiritual, it could be the rough political game that they played to win the position. But I can’t speak on what I do not know., I already spoke on the common things we see amongst politicians and their supporters.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: Volimack on April 04, 2024, 10:54:42 PM
Because violence is involved in politics it is impossible to bring politics to the right path. Many people think that a compromise between the two main political parties is necessary to continue and accelerate the real development progress and prosperity of our country. The question is any kind of reconciliation possible between the two political parties of the two opposite trends? One might say the ideological difference between these two parties has now reduced to such an extent that there is no reasonable reason not to reach an issue-based compromise even if it is not permanent.


Title: Re: Can politics be pure?
Post by: JMBitcointernational on April 27, 2024, 02:37:56 AM
Can politics be beyond dirty  game? Can their be politics with no hate or envy of opposition
Politics can never be pure in as much as other opponents exists, Envy naturally is embedded in politics , the existence of other polictical parties makes politics competitive And quest to accomplish Evil practices.There are always bloodsheds,kidnapping,And voilence when it comes To politics And with all these atributes politics can never be pure.even without opposition politics can never be pure because even people in the  same political party fight themselves And Create some fractions on who To present as the party flag bearer And this Brings disunity And sometimes threat To life.

Lastly , even in our homes we play individual politics where the father , will be in one politcal party, the Mother another party And the Son in another party Bringing disunity And lack of trust among Family members , however,in My own perpespective it  will take the Grace of God for politics To be pure.