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https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/la-liga-betting-shirt-sponsors-2020-21-season (https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/la-liga-betting-shirt-sponsors-2020-21-season)

The new law has knocked down strongly all the preferred advertising options for betting business. They cannot, for example, be on a teams shirt nor celebrities from sports are allowed to promote betting houses or platforms. Also, the adds in TV can only be run late at night. Needless to say that is a torpedo on the finances of several teams and may affect their ability to recruit and maintain the right players.

Teams directly affected:

Not sure what this is supposed to achieve - to curb underage gambling perhaps?

I personally think that this is not going to be effective whatsoever. Teenagers can stay up late too, you know?

It's probably just going to be knocking out the funding for a lot of teams and forcing them to make employee cuts for absolutely no reason whatsoever.

Sports are not the only place to advertise, there’s a lot of ways now and for sure those casinos will always find a way and beside, they are spending a lot of money just for a player to wear a shirt, its time now for those casinos to become more creative in advertising. Anyway, this new rule many lessen the exposure of gambling in sports, but still they can’t prevent gamblers from betting.

With such a ban then it defeats the whole purpose of advertising!
If you can't use influencers to market your product it's such a joke and them saying no ads on teams shirt they are forgetting that TV content isn't restricted to one country . This ban has so much  absurdity here which could be challenged in court.

I wonder what made them reach such a decision,  hope these guys mean we'll for our friends in that country..

There are still tons of places to advertise gambling platforms even if Spain removes a bulk of where the advertisements come from. If the goal is to limit minors’ exposure to gambling, then I don’t think they are doing enough to achieve it. The internet is still a place wherein minors can easily access gambling-related content, and goodluck censoring the internet as people will go above and beyond just to get the information that they want in this day and age.

loss for the casinos, and loss for those personalities. i don't think also that this move will be effective on what they want to achieve. these bettors know where to go even if they don't see those ads. let's admit that in this pandemic, betting industry is one of the industries that survive. now, if they will remove the sponsorships for those individuals involve, it will be a loss of income. i don't think that would be very smart idea from them. anyway, they can't do anything much with the situation but need to comply with the government's protocol.

I'd imagine that the financial managers are going to be devasasted.

Although this is nothing away from what is expected. Seems like a lot of countries right now are trying to crack down on gambling advertising.

I personally think that the sportsbooks will simply find a loophole somewhere to advertise, e.g. online, and move away from the traditional merchandise advertisement. They're not a one trick pony.

It's like they want to kill the sports these teams rely on the shirt sponsorships and other advertising that comes from gambling, obviously, they did not create a body or a study and have all the parties involved for a consensus, not the right time to come especially in the pandemic, they create this law because of the surge of gambling, but they cannot stop from betting even if there is no advertising, there is such a thing like online promotion and word of the mouth promotion which they cannot control, it's a useless law.

I heard about this ban while watching La Liga game. This is why some clubs don't have sponsors on their shirt.
I think this ban can hit clubs hard. Pandemic already affected them seriously, they had to play whole previous season without spectators and this season they can let only limited number of spectators. So, without gambling sponsorship they lose another source of income.
But maybe gambling companies will find loophole in laws. Same like alcochol advertisements - in many country it's forbidden, so, they simply advertise alcochol-free beer.

This reminds me of the UFC reebok uniform deal. Except much much worse.

With all the problems and conflict in the world today. Do we really not have anything better to do than wage a war on gambling and sports?

Spain being known for having very high youth unemployment (ages 19-24) in the 50% range. I'm surprised there isn't more emphasis and fact checking on real issues that people face.

This is very serious and I think government needs to do something about this because it's going to affects a lots if persons and firms who are main promoters of betting platforms. Many clubs in Spain has there ground ambassador as a Gambling platform which funds the club activities at the time advertising the platform. If the government put an end to them, then there will be commotion that can affect the financial status of most firms

Well, this is a rather unfortunate piece of news. I still don't understand the point of bans like this, is this supposed to actually help in trying to prevent under-aged gambling? Or gambling in general? Cause if it was the latter, then I'm pretty sure it's close to useless? If it's the latter then honestly it's pointless and useless. At this point, their methods of actually trying to prevent gambling is laughable, and is at most, killing off the sports teams and events themselves instead of gambling, not to mention the players themselves.

Blocking a way will pave way for another one, so surely the advertisements will be evolved and take a lead in the other platforms, for example the ban is only for TV ads then the bookies will choose social media which may do more harm because social media used by mostly the youngsters including minors so creating such laws is useless and just create trouble for particular sector only not the actual cause.

That's a big loss for these team's funds. Looks like the government ofSpain is pretty much punishing these athletes instead of the gambling platforms.

Social media platforms have their own policy for gambling ads just as how they block porn ads. They are going to be creative in hiring advertisers online like the streamers that have millions of subscribers. Maybe forums like bitcointalk will also be targeted by these advertisers just as we see crypto casinos gathering up here.

damn, that's a huge blow to the players and clubs that are getting a lot of money from advertising betting services. at least they only prohibit the advertising of gambling and not any type business ad.

most likely to curb the gambling activity in their country and not just to prevent underage gambling. I mean, adults are also prone to gambling addiction.

I was thinking the reason for the ban was for the underage kids, who are also a fan of the sports, not to see these gambling brands but that doesn't seem to be the case.
^ People in this group are already of legal age which means most of them are probably aware of their actions. Not to mention that they already have a job.

In principle, I don't see it as bad, although as has been said, there will be places where advertising can be seen, such as on the Internet, but a reduction of massive advertising is not bad.

I am in favor of the gaming sector, but well regulated to avoid abuses. And I am against many regulations, but in that sector without regulations there would tend to be many abuses. Young people are now able to gamble impulsively from their mobile phones at any time, and on anything. That is more likely to lead to addictions than when the only way to bet on sports was to go to a place far from your home to play a pool.

This is similar to the ban on the use of credit cards that was discussed in another thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5357332.msg57823379#msg57823379). It seems to me that in both cases the spirit, the intentions, are good, but I believe that the impact will be more limited than the regulators expect.

This will definitely deal a heavy blow not just to the clubs and their team members and players but also to the gambling industry. If La Liga is to lose almost a hundred million Euro because of this, their players would definitely suffer as well. This will definitely have a trickle down effect to the team members' salaries.

This would also mean the gambling companies would be losing a very vital way to reach millions of audience. This will also reflect on their books. This might cause a very significant reduction in income for them.

Damn, that really sucks.

I personally don't see why they would do such a thing given that it is integral to the team's businesses and will probably ruin them financially.

But I guess that the government generally has their own agenda when it comes to regulating the sportsbetting industry and protecting consumer rights, which is fair enough. I don't think that other countries should follow suit though.

This is weird, does this have anything to do with ESPN, recently claiming $3 billion in funding, most likely from advertising/sponsorship, that's just my mind.

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However, I think the reasons below that made the Spanish government make rules and ban gambling sponsors.

This is a factor that angers the Spanish government for most of the sponsors of gambling so far, if the banned club, doesn't find an alternative sponsor, this will be fatal for them, in terms of money, the effect is bigger and the risk to the club.

The gambling sponsorship business is very profitable.

Maybe the government is finally getting concerned, since the government allowed regulated gambling in spain in such a way that taxes are being paid by betting and gambling houses and platforms to them, gambling has been a thriving business and income for the government, but on the bad side, the number of gamblers has tripled.

At the last quarter of last year 2020, there was an increase in Spain's online gambling market by 17.7%, imagine the increment this year already before this new ban.
https://i.imgur.com/StwSG0R.jpg

In the article, it says " the stricter measures is aimed at limiting exposure of consumers to gambling ads". To the underaged this is also a big concern.


https://epodcastnetwork.com/spains-online-gambling-market-grew-by-17-7-in-2020/

I think Spain didn't directly bans the betting ads but instead the Spain government made a regulation to set the adds on a time where the young ones couldn't see it. Casino businesses could probably made  a betting advertisement through internet but in this case kids today were more engaged in social media or internet than seeing celebrities and watching television and this might getting useless if the reason of the government is to lessen the exposure of gambling advertisements in children.

I don't think that banning betting ads or restricting the gambling ads will affect the recruiting ability of sport teams.
The main idea of such sponsors is to raise money to recruit the team members. If the management doesn't get sponsors from betting companies then they will surely get sponsors from other companies.
So I think the recruiting process will go on like before. The amount raised by the other sponsors might be a little lower but I don't think it will create that big of an impact.

I don't see what would be the benefits if Spain will put a ban on betting ads. Didn't they realized that clubs are already in financial difficulties because of the Covid-19 pandemic. It's just this year where they see an opportunity to bring back their shape.

There is no mention in the article about the exact reason why it turned out like that. There is also no relation to people having an addiction to gambling. Spain is one of the most successful countries in terms of gambling that's why I'm confused about that regulation imposed on betting deals.

not at all because the t.v ads arent totally banned and they dont mention if online ads are banned aswell as radio , offline and others  . most of them are still strong and can be used as an alternative to promote  .

isnt it great ? because adult people usually watch t.v late at night   , that means kids and under age people will not have the influence to gamble because they cannot see the advertisement in thier watching hours .

I wonder why they have to control even sports and other type of advertisements. It will surely have a negative impact on gambling but as for me, they couldn't totally eliminate it because, despite the absence of advertisements, people will still find ways to play and gamble. Also, they could switch to advertising through different online platforms, which will still help.

There are news coming of advertising when it comes to gambling being restricted or outright banned, as we know the incidence of gambling addiction increased during the pandemic so it is likely this is a response to that, however I think this is a waste and it is never going to work, people now have the casino at their fingertips and they can play in any online casino around the world they want in a matter of minutes, if they are so worried about this then a better measure would be create a prevention campaign so people gamble responsibly, but this is something too simple and too effective for them to try out.

Since the surge of the number of gamblers from to before they allowed gambling bring negative impact to their people they will need to atleast lessen the adds to avoid some audience or target audience that are not allowed yet to do gambling yet keeps on doing it despite of rules. They will not totally bans it but they will put more restrictions as they already see now the effect of gambling in the people in Spain.

Maybe it could be the right choice to reduce the young gamblers there who still can't control themselves well, every prohibition and permit of course has its own reasons. But I believe the ban will not have a bad impact on the gambling business itself, because we know gambling is prohibited or not people will still gamble in their own way. So in this case it is about the team concerned because with the lack of sponsors, then of course it will have an impact on revenue which may be stagnant.

You can't stop gamblers from continuing their activity where a big number of gamblers have already took this as their profession. Yeah its true that no parents wants to introduce their children with gambling platforms and specially when its advertisements showing on football matches or in favourite player's jersey then its difficult to keep them away. Gambling platforms prefer to sponsor football clubs due to peoples attraction about any specific club or player. This is why recent days we are seeing competition between multiple betting platforms and their sponsor agents to complete partnership with football clubs.

Sponsoring football clubs and using betting platforms logo on players Jersey is the most effective promotional option for platform owners. Actually in one side its giving a large amount of audience and on the other side platform users do not hesitate to play with big amount when a platform is the sole sponsor of a popular football club. Even betting platform can easily put some terms on their sponsorship deal by which they can easily use clubs players for their OVC, TVC or Static promotional posts in social media. Spanish government have already taken their decision about betting adds and betting platforms will have to follow that but they will definitely find multiple potential options for their business. When anyone see betting platforms logo on players jersey i can say that viewers start to connect relationship between sports and betting but that not should be. Betting and sports is completely different from each other but if both blends together through advertising activity then definitely more or less people will start to lose their interest on sport and transparency.

Maybe others have different opinion but I think sports and associate organisation should keep little distance from anything where there is possibility of losing reputation. Yeah obviously sponsor money is a big thing for every club but it doesn't mean that football clubs will not get sponsors from other fields.  

Ohh heck! That's a big blow to the teams as well as to the gambling houses! I can see gambling houses are sponsoring many A listed clubs and also maintaining their visibility through the boards around the field. So they have definitely gambled big money on the popularity of football in Europe. This new law will discourage them from pouring in millions of euros into football clubs. I hope that no other europer countries would come up with such negative laws! Such kind of legal provisions are bad for gambling business!

Seems regulations on gambling are getting more strict and strict. This isn't a bad idea at all because sportsbooks shouldn't be promoted by certain teams or players. This, at some point, may leave association for some people that the team or the player are cooperated with the casino, etc. Another idea behind these regulations can be that celebrity sportsmen like Ronaldo, Messi and others have huge influence no people and the government wants to lessen the number of addicted gamblers and the number of gamblers in overall. (Remember how one rejection of Coke's bottle from Christiano Ronaldo affected the company).

Stopping the advert wouldn't still stop the citizens from knowing about gambling companies. There are diverse  means of advertisements at the moment. I'm sure developers who gamble as well or who own gambling companies would bring out alternative. For me restricting betting ads wouldn't stop betting ads from circulating what the government has succeeded in doing is to make la-liga develop a hidden alternative

You are right, pray for all the difficulties facing the crisis after the pandemic, everyone has the right to visit the casino even as entertainment. There is no need to make it a rule limiting gamblers who have been used to it for a long time. Just use age restriction rules only. The impact will be felt immediately, because even the budget income from the casino will not be noticed at this time.
Moreover, advertising is the daily way of casinos to explore that the casino has various offers. Luckily, social media is not the target of such a policy.

This is not a good approach though, I think educating people especially minors is more important than banning this kind of advertisement that could help the gambling industry grow, if they grow, the government will be able to take more taxes from them, so it could help their economy. It seems like they really emphasize under the new rules that gambling has a bad effect to people, and that they don't want to make them grow as an industry.

If the Spanish government thinks that this way they will reduce the level of gambling addiction in society, they are deeply mistaken. After this law comes into force, the betting companies will be forced to redirect the funds that were previously intended for sponsorship deals with sports clubs, for example to advertising on the Internet, where it will also find its audience. But athletes and sports clubs will really suffer serious losses. And this is very bad.

I will say it is within the law to regulate gambling activities because, if it is left unchecked, it can cause massive underage gambling and we all know the impact of gambling addiction on kids.

I guess the gambling platforms within that region will sort for alternative ways to make publicity for the sites.

Yeah exactly.

I'm not sure what the Spanish government is doing. Are they trying to deliberately get rid of the whole sports sector which is so lucrative?

From a taxation perspective they should just leave the industry as is and let it generate them a fat amount of taxes. Banning logos on jerseys is probably the worst way to go about banning gambling advertising anyway so not sure what they want out of this.

Like to point out this one:

"It claims that athletes' status as role models had led to an increase in gambling among young people aged 18 to 25, rising from 29 per cent to 40 per cent in the last four years. The amount of money spent by young people in Spain on gambling, meanwhile, had risen by 13 per cent annually."

I don't see the negative effect of it but 18-25 years is already an adult stage. They already know what they are doing and matured enough to be responsible for gambling. If that's only the reason why such a ban was implemented, I don't see it can change the gambling status in that country. They should just be alarmed if stats are telling them that these people do have an irresponsible act in gambling.

And besides, the government, in general, are getting advantages too in the sports industry there. There are other ways to work on a plan of solving "serious health and social risks" and they should brainstorm about it.

If their main reason why they have to do this is to lessen the exposure of gambling that kids seen on a sports while watching then it's helpful but I'm sure there's a huge changes going to happen and I don't know where this is going. But I have faith in them if this is really their plans.

Besides, gambling can be seen somewhere where most people often stay rather than in a Coliseum. So let's just hope this new changes will adapt quickly to whatsoever their motives. Although, gamblers are addicted to it already maybe this is also their target to avoid most people from spending money and losses too much.

Even now majority of the clubs are finding it hard to sustain especially after the pandemic and the only sector where money is flowing constantly during these last two years is the gambling industry where new users are searching for new platforms to spend their free time and now the government wants to restrict those advertisement revenue is harsh for these clubs.

Did they also ban credit cards and other forms of financial borrowing that includes much risk.   They didnt ban betting, they tried to apply censorship on adults as a positive when it does make something appear as forbidden and out of reach and possibly even more attractive.     Its far better if they just emphasize the negatives to whatever activity they are trying to underline as negative, maybe the average win rate should be listed in advert for balance; this idea is far more likely to succeed in reducing gambling.

You know that government do make out decisions even turns out to be dumb and no sense but still it would be the one to be followed in the end of the day or simply theres no much thing they can do but to deal with it
and of us people who do give out some commentaries in regards to the situation then this decision would really be negative to those clubs.
It is indeed harsh and they should be at least considerate knowing that we are on a hard situation specially on this pandemic times.

And that's nothing new. And tbh, if the choices were to be between educating people about gambling and banning, I'd 9/10 go for banning. Why? It's less hassle, less problems, less resources used, unlike educating people, that's going to take a lot of time just with the number of people you have to actually educate. That's in the case of making sure that they actually learn, if it was haphazard process like posting posters, ads, etc, about anti-gambling or the effects of gambling, less resources yes, but less effective as well.

The excuse used by the minister of consumer affairs to pass the new rule can be only considered legit if they make another decree declaring their citizens mentally incapable, as only mentally incapable people wouldn't have critical thinking to distinguish what they should do and not do by themselves, consequently acting accordingly to what a celebrity tell them to do or practing an activity just because a soccer player displays it on his uniform.

In a modern civilized society proud of its advancements in social and economical sectors such decrees don't make sense. Why do authorities keep underestimating the capacity of their citizens managing their own lives smartly and efficiently without external interferences?

I guess it's a big loss to the gambling casinos or gambling platform does not promote by known personalities but again if this is a law we cannot against with it but still another loss to the casino to promote more because we know the power of the top persons they can encourage a lot of people to join them and enjoy gambling.

So, what reason was given for the ban? Was it due to lack of promotion of safe bet, was it  emotional ban, is betting leading people to take big risk, etc? I have notice betting businesses getting promoted in stadiums, and sometimes I feel there should be moderation in what they allow people to see. How about other businesses? Imagine if the stadium is filled with insurance or food ads. Not saying there is any wrong in promoting insurance or food, as long as it's done in moderation and good insurance/foods are promoted. They shouldn't promote just bettings businesses and only the good/safe ones should be promoted. Those who meet a strict safety standard could be allowed to promote.    So, things that are permitted shouldn't be done excessively, and safe betting should be encouraged.
If betting/prediction market is properly defined and is good, it could be illegal not to promote them.
The problem is extremism and lack of knowledge/understanding

The problem is that - not only in Spain, but also in other countries - gambling addiction has increased among many due to the lockdown period and due to the pandemic. In some cases even drastically. This is shown by several studies that have been published recently. I assume that this rule is a reaction to that. Whether it will be successful, though, I doubt. Since certainly many do not start betting just because it is on any jerseys.

I guess this happens in other countries too, IMO, sports should have a good reputation and it's not good to integrate clean sports to advertising of betting platform as there could potentially be a problem in terms of the outcome as game-fixing is happening in any sports.

Betting is a serious thing that can only be offered to those who have the maturity to recognize and control the risks, so Spain's concern with advertising is valid to try to contain the reach of the public and limit the "side effects".
Now, if this will really have any effect I doubt, because nowadays with games of chance being directly connected to the internet and a young audience that is also immersed in it, bans on TV for example end up not having as much effect.

Anyway... governments and their strange laws.

Why wouldn't they want celebrities to promote casinos? That's a bit counterproductive if you ask me. Also, this is a bit bad for the celebrities too because they'll get cut off with possible source of income. For real, I really don't get what's the point of banning them from getting deals with betting businesses.

They are trying to kill that lays golden eggs, they are taxing these betting platforms so why they are limiting their promotion, they should contest this, they have loyal followers I don't think they will run out of business or bankrupt since these restrictions can hamper how they run their business they must find a way to counter this they will have to find new ways to promote and advertise.

It is always weird when countries introduce laws which only have the goal to change the way that adults spend their free time because i don't think that any country has the right to do that. Everyone that has reached the legal age can do whatever he wants in his free time and with his money, if this activity is legal of course.
That being said, a gambling addiction hits in most cases those people that are already poor and also easier to manipulate. Therefore it can make sense, from a certain point of view, to forbid that sports stars and other celebrities are advertising for sports betting. I doubt though that i will have any effect.

Surely both parties between the promoter and the sponsor will lose financially we don't know what agreement they have done together. And im also read some articels minister advice team and some celebrity stop completely their partnership  ???  its too sudden and too quick to take a policy.

As OP stated, some teams will suffer big time as well, their sponsors are casinos, now these teams need to search for new sponsors... I guess for big clubs it's easy to find sponsors, companies compete to take that place, but with some less known teams it's trickier to find new sponsors!

Spain is a serious country, teams and casinos will have to adapt or they will be fined for not following the regulations! In my opinion this too much, the same thing I think about many other rules... but who are we to question that, so it's follow the rules or suffer consequences for all!

I guess they have another way of promoting their platform also the internet is broad there's a lot of way like getting ads with different platform. and promoting in different ways to earn more players I guess the restriction is just limited on their country but not in the outside. Still, if this restriction is widely spread and already implemented by law it's too hard to against it it's better to follow or else they have the chance to catch you.

Celebrities are forced to turn down advertising offers from casinos, social media is a place for promotion, but with intense competition also adds more massive barriers. In contrast to celebrities who have influence more quickly and their followers can easily follow what is advertised by their love interest. Casinos also need to think about ways to operate optimally and bring in new gamblers.

This is absolutely obnoxious.  I am sick and tired of seeing countries making backwards progress.  There is nothing wrong with gambling and this should be something that is left up to the people to decide on, not an overlord.  I guess I am just tired of countries making backwards moves and seemingly many of them of late.

It will have impact on casino houses also and teams would lose upto $105 million which is high source of revenue from sponsored advertisements from these casinos.The government putting up such partial bans are out of my understanding as adds will be run late night as people would avoid them watching on such times.Most of the football matches are played at night time and fans are awake till midnight and even late so they will watch it then.But still the mass advertisement like on shirts,kits,and all other sportspersons stuff will not be allowed can give blow to industry.You don't know how much revenue they generate out of it.Even if millions are watching and small percentage login on casino the house will recover the advertisement funds from them easily.

I know that gambling is being promoted on TV every midnight but here in my place, only lottery is the gambling they promote. The rest of the gambling platforms are being promoted via Facebook and other social media platforms, that's why parental guidance is always important for kids if that's what they are aiming for, to reduce children being expose too early in the gambling world.

Banning it on TV for a certain reason wouldn't hurt them that bad, I guess. There's a lot of ways on how to cope up with that.

I'm really surprised by what the Spanish government is doing, if these teams don't get sponsors then where can they make money to pay for all expenses. Spain is famous for its high taxpayers, if it prohibits gambling sites from sponsoring then it's the same as making it difficult for small football teams to compete with big teams.

It was inevitable really, when you see almost every football team sponsored by some sort of gambling company then there had to be a crackdown. These teams have large audiences of young children and it does seem ridiculous that they are being exposed to this sort of blatant advertisement. It will be interesting to see how the clubs respond because they naturally sell these spots to the highest paying customers and it might cause quite a hit on their budgets. It could be a good thing too because it seems they are all too happy to spend ridiculous amounts on trading around the top football players and these advertisers only help to fund such activity. The clubs should have avoided this by seeking to protect their own image in the first place.

Talking about the rules, this seems like a pretty good move to reduce the rate of gambling increases for minors. but seeing from the article that there is an increase in gambling there is at the age of 18-25 years which is a transition period from teenagers to adults (not minors). I don't think this will have a significant impact because at this age they can already determine and look for whatever they like, including gambling.
As for the advertisements or promotions that are carried out at night, it does not guarantee that they do not watch because at the teenage age phase staying up late is no longer a taboo thing and even becomes commonplace even though not everyone does it but on average they do it.
on the other hand this is a crushing blow for the La Liga teams that have gambling sponsors as stated in the article op linked.
and I think this rule will only make a bad impact for La Liga teams that have gambling sponsors without results which do not necessarily reduce the number of youth gambling there.

That does not imply lack money, now we will see an opportunity for other markets/business, that simple. There are plenty of customers who want to be in those t-shirts.

Now on the individual side, this measure that if it seems arbitrary and something ... "Francoist" (reference dictator Franco) is to pretend to take away your freedom of individual expression and the right to commercialize in your thought of freedom the product that comes to you willingly, you cannot restrict that right.

wondering what is the reason behind this ? spain is one of the most popular in soccer in which gamblers are all over the place to support their team and of course to bet for them.

Is this something that gamblers must be alarmed on this part?

The advertisements or promotions from the gambling company will reduce because of that but that does not mean the young generation can not see the ads because sometimes, they do not sleep at pass midnight. I think the governments are trying to reduce the number of gamblers because they think in this pandemic, while people stay at home and watch many things, people will also see the ads about gambling, which makes them place their bets on sports. Maybe the La Liga teams need to find the other sponsors companies that want to join with them not to lose their income from the advertisements.

It is bad news for the industry, but yes, it is mostly intended to limit effectively the options for advertising, limit the exposure of underaged people, and it means some additional disadvantages for betting houses. Still, it does not seem to address the on-line marketing and, to be honest, young people are much more into tik-tok than TV. Their habits are very different and even the social media they use, such as NOT Facebook, is also different because who want´s to be on your dad´s social network?

It is similar to some of the bans on tobacco, and, if you think of it, these were only partially effective as they made existing brands more resistant to newcomers.

Actually, with the rules set, I think it will add new problems, especially for teams that have sponsors in La Liga.
but the possibility of reducing gambling problems in their country is quite small in terms of success because now it is not only television media and it is true that the pandemic is one of the roots of the problem here because with this virus, the economy is getting worse and more and more people are in the world. in the house in the long run, and I think they gamble not without reason because they think this is an instant way to make money even though this is not entirely true.

I wouldn't really worry too much about sports clubs, because their soccer uniforms won't remain unadvertised for long. There are a huge number of other sponsors who will gladly take the vacated space. So even if sports clubs lose some of their revenues, it won't last long. It will be much more difficult for bookmakers to find an equally effective promotion.

This is a really bad decision from Spain.Lots of teams depend on the money from their sponsors and they just cutted a big % of sponsors. Most of this teams will have to find new sponsorships that pay a lot of money and that dosent happen everyday.Really a bad move from Spain.Teams should fight against this

Regarding TikTok social media, I often find those who advertise gambling casinos, even from them doing Live and suggesting that all their followers follow to register on the casino site. Many advertising promotions are starting to reach all influencers and avoid sponsoring various sports. Now it is in effect in some countries limiting sponsorship of gambling sites.

Wow, although there are still many ways of advertising their gambling, exactly, especially this, advertising by being sponsorship in the "shirt" will be very infleuncing.
COmmonly, being a sponsor in the shirt becomes a very influential way and it is very premium to be there.
that is why it will probably give big impact on the companies.
however, the law is a law, and law must be obeyed.
The companies will turn their strategies to keep adverts8sing their companies or sites whatever happen. Today there are many ways, many people are related to online activities, so that they will try using the chance to advertize many more iby online.

This is harsh losing $150 million for forcibly dropping their gambling deal and declining their request for a three-year transition deal, the gambling addiction could be high that the government suddenly enforced these restrictions, the teams' management should now think outside of the box now that government do not allow shirt advertisement, this will have a significant impact in the financial status of each team, not just the figure that they come out.

The team can request a dialog, they are paying companies and they give employment and entertainment to a lot of people.

Every decision will have a side effect, whether we already calculate or knows it or not, because if those rules are still be applied, the new problems will come out as you said. It is difficult to solve gambling problems because if one people stop gambling, the other people will start gambling. If people know the real danger of playing gambling in the long term, they can think twice about that and not try to engage in gambling games.

People themselves need money to survive in this pandemic and they see gambling can be one of many ways to make money. But they do not think more about the danger for their life. Hopefully, the banning of betting ads could help reduce gambling problems, especially reducing gambling addiction.

I wonder how the Spanish teams are going to respond.

Probably not very positively, mind you, given that this is their livelihoods.

Not sure what precipitated this change to be honest. This stuff has been going on in the rest of the world and in Spain for ages and without warning they decide to ban it... Might be a bit of a kneejerk reaction in my opinion.

Hey man, seriously? I'm in favor of the gambling industry but to say that there is nothing wrong with gambling seems too exaggerated for me.

Of course there are bad things in the gaming world. We have the problem of addictions, which in my opinion usually come more from a previous problem of the person than from the game itself, but gambling is not like eating vegetables, where we can say that there is nothing wrong with it.

Besides, nowadays we have the problem of the new technologies, which give instant access, that you can play without anyone knowing it, bet very fast and bet practically anything. With the new technologies, there are new problems with gambling: How is Technology Innovation Impacting Gambling Addiction?
 (https://rehabs.com/pro-talk/technologys-impact-on-gambling-addiction/)
And then there is the problem of minors, which has already been mentioned. So no, the gambling industry is not as harmless as the cultivation of organic vegetables.

Huge money is going to lose on this new law that's being implemented in Spain. We know that there are too many sports fans there and as well as sports bettors.
There really is a big effect to the finances of those teams affected, I don't think that they will be given a consideration even if they will have a dialogue request.

This is going to hurt the income of most sports clubs in Spain, since these ads are a huge source of revenue for them. But somehow i think they will find a loophole through these rules. Somewhere in line with how liquor ads are shown in Indian television. The betting companies can create a similar company that is into some other business but has the same name and run ads of the other company which does not attract the ban.

Also, does anyone know if this has anything to do with Barca not being able to afford Messi?

Yes it will have a huge impact to casinos, the same goes to influencers because they cant promote a platform that can also give them profit for doing it.

This law might be their solution to prevent their people especially the minors to engage themselves on such activity. However we know if there's a will, there's a way thus if a person is interested to gamble regardless if there's an advertisement around or not, its not hard to find a gambling site that can satisfy yourself.

Hopefully, that can be an awareness from the parents to always take care of their kids and understand the risk of gambling. The casino income will reduce because of that but I am sure the casino will figure out how they can still get another way to have the income. The program from the government will surely help people not to watch the gambling ads but for people who are already playing gambling on their favorite sites, they will not care because they can directly visit the site and playing gambling.

While I do not like it either this is the kind of government most people want and deserve, as soon as they run into a problem they run to the government asking for a solution to their problems not realizing that whatever solution the government can come up makes things way worse, as yourself I do not think this is the correct path, we must give as much freedom as possible to the people, it is true some will make mistakes because of that freedom but this is not a reason to restrict the freedom of the 99% which can gamble responsibly.

In my country, advertising of alcoholic beverages on TV is banned, but that hasn't stopped many alcoholic companies from producing non-alcoholic beer and advertising it under the same brand name. It is quite possible that in this situation, too, they will come up with a workaround that will satisfy the needs of both sports clubs and bookmakers.

it's like dying one grows a thousand :) and indeed this happens in terms of gambling, and believe it or not it is a fact, because one gambler stops but on the other hand 2 to 3 people just start gambling. and problems like this will never end.
but it's true of course the government in Spain has started planning and realizing this and of course a ban like this will have an impact, even though it can't be predicted whether it will be significant or not.
and about this it is true because the effects of the lockdown have hampered all of their livelihoods whether at work or in running a business and governments in all countries are worried about the virus that continues to attack brutally with more and more variants so that inevitably a lockdown must be carried out, because the government is worried that its citizens will die from the virus but on the other hand the government has not thought that the effect of the lockdown will make their citizens die of hunger.

The solution is that online gambling can be accessed without having to accept restrictions, maybe crypto betting would be much better than trying to accept the ad promotion limits that have been warned for your celebrities and other sports that are already regulated. Some Spanish governments, if traced, are also gambling out of sight and there it has become commonplace. It's just that some groups make a lot of complaints about how advertising users are hurting their revenue.

We're likely to see this more and more with other countries around the world, it is surprising that they have been able to get away with it for so long. Gambling can be very destructive and throwing it in front of tens of millions of people around the world every day is bound to cause a few of them problems. Football should pride itself on being a skilled and athletic game, it has little need to associate with these companies that suck peoples money away with little returned. In much the same way as cigarette and alcohol based advertising was restricted in the past, it is going to be stopped in every rational country who wants to help troubled gamblers. Maybe football clubs should be more wise with their budgets in future, than throwing constantly increasing amounts to acquire players.

Of course because there is always a gap to do that in my country too and even because cigarettes are only for adults in my country cigarette advertisements were only done at night a few years ago, but for now cigarette advertisements can be seen on television at during the day but with different advertisements such as showing adrenaline or showing being a tough man but still behind him there is a cigarette brand being advertised.
and this will not rule out such a possibility because every rule must always have loopholes that certain people take advantage of.

I stand behind this strict law in Spain. Yes, people will find a way to gamble but at least the government must try and dry out the possible ways where minors are exposed to gambling advertisements. A lot of clubs and teams might be affected but I really appreciate this step as a whole and should bring net positive.

I am not aware of the problem status, whether it's illegal or not but this step should cut down some addiction problems and more importantly, the minors who are exposed to gambling at early age.

The decision is harsh but they will not come out with a decision to implement such a strict law without the backing of the data, there could be a big rise in gambling among youth sectors and they want to restrict seeing those ads coming from betting sites to protect the young sector, but they should have a dialog in the first place so they will get the part of the concern parties and come out with a much better plan and not banning all these kind of ads.

Spanish football keeps getting shitty with each passing day. At this point, I don't really see anything more that's interesting about Spanish football. That decision was an outright harsh one coming from the authorities. I wonder how these that are directly affected with this ban will fare with the lack of sponsorship from these gambling platforms/companies that choose to partner with them before the ban. It's very much unfortunate. At this rate, Viewership in Spanish will shrink to the bare minimum.

The government's action shows that they do care about their youth.
It may not be effective route, but it may help in lessening the temptation as they are not seeing those ads.
I hope their government will release their data after this implementation, if they are indeed at least reducing the figures related to gambling.
And if the numbers are significant, they can always endorse it to other countries as well.
If the positive outweighs the negative, they may be doing right in this new protocol.

That's right. The decision is made by the result of their brainstorming. They won't implement it if no prior studies have been made for even at least a year. It was also being consulted by a much higher person or individual. I also don' see any complaints from legislators so it means the vote is a majority.

Since it's already there, the government should monitor its impact on it. Reconsider their decision if there's something not good is happening like too much financial loss, unemployment, service-related issues, and many more.

Yes, it's another source of income for those influencers, teams, and those who will be largely affected by this new law.
I guess you're right that it's also part of helping their people to be protected from any gambling exposure. But they don't have to go that deep as there will be a lot of those people that will be affected by it.

That should be the main reason why they have a need and immediate implementation of the law, it may look unreasonable but if they can show the data that it is indeed the case then the team can understand the situation and they may have to look for other ways to effectively advertise, but the sponsorship will now be gone and they have to look for ways to have revenues other than sponsorship, it's a harsh law but the government is looking for long term solution to youth addiction to gambling

I am sure there will be positive and negative from those regulations for both gamblers or people. We all know that it will not stop gamblers from gambling and coming to their favourite gambling sites. The lockdown process in many countries makes people confuse and sad because they can not make money from their job and with the growth of the gambling business, that attract some people try their luck by playing many gambling games.

I believe this will end soon, no matter we are still in lockdown until the next year because sooner or later, the health company will use the right method to prevent the spreading of the virus. When that can happen, people will be happy because they can go out without worrying about anything, but they still need to protect their health from the other virus.

Well, tell me one thing that doesn't have any problems with it. Big industries produce a lot of waste but that doesn't mean you stop the industries. I think the focus should be on controlling gambling addicts instead of banning gambling itself or its ads.

There is even addiction for some people watching movies, doesn't mean we shall ban movie theatres.

Tighten up the laws regarding minors gambling. Enforce rules if a casino is found to breach the rules, their license shall be revoked and serious punishment shall be served.

Talking of organic vegetables, even there's a risk of some oxytocin injected into them.

No, I do not think so because sports betting will be still available, but the casino will not show the activity because the government can track them down easily. A gambling industry can still run without a problem because the gambler will use the other way to place their bet. And if the gamblers can not do that in their country, they will use the online way which will help them place the bets.

I do not think that this decision will significantly reduce the recognition of gambling brands among young people because young people have not watched state television for a long time and on the Internet after the entry into force of this law this kind of gambling advertising will be even more besides soccer clubs in other countries will continue to advertise bookmakers and gambling. In my opinion this is another law that will not be able to protect children from unwanted information.

In this case, I find it increasingly difficult to find the point of the problem that what is the benefit of the government from limiting advertising to all aspects that have provided a large tax revenue to the government in Spain? They only hinder the flow of the entry of large funding channels, but also allow the sport not to wear a sponsor? The Spanish government shouldn't make half-and-half regulations if it wants to eliminate gambling, isn't it more complete to legalize gambling than to limit advertising regulations that are only intended for a few related institutions.

yes, of course it will be like that because every action there must be positive and negative things and the response you get there must be pros and cons depending on everyone who responds. as well as here and I'm sure the Spanish people will understand this even though it is still at risk of getting rejected from some parties but all the rules set by the government are standard and will be difficult to change so like it or not the gamblers there have to accept this.
maybe it will be like that because now there is less and less news about this and sooner or later this pandemic will end soon because health workers from each country always work hard in tackling this and now vaccines have been promoted in every country with the hope that people who in the vaccine, the immune system can be stronger so that it is not effective against the virus that is rampant now.

That might be a nice move to ban the advertising on different platforms but at the same time I do think that you have to ask yourself one question ⁉️ how will the people advertise now!?? How will the gambling companies get through !? They might need some different options and they might not be safe. They could have regulated it for sure which might have been way better. Regulations are always way better than banning and at the same time advertising is a part of businesses, if the Spanish government agrees to not take any revenue from the gambling companies then they might be doing good with the whole thing but the point is, they would still take the revenue and forget about the whole thing.

I really like your opinion and do believe it or not the fact is like that.
considering that today's young people very rarely watch television and indeed what is being watched is not only La Liga even though they are in Spain.
I think this will indeed have an effect caused by the ban, but the effect is very small and will not have a major impact on the prohibition of gambling there, in fact this will add to the problem that the government must face, namely the dissatisfaction of several teams in La Liga who are indeed still have sponsorship contracts with gambling sites.
other than that I don't think there will be more, but for sure there will be some people who will stop gambling due to this set of rules but don't forget that gambling like this is like that one person will stop but there will be some new people who will start gambling.

I do not understand what they mean when they say that this law does not affect sponsorship of betting abroad and also has anyone else seen this? I speak of this:


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It’s not killing the industry since they can still market in other way, maybe many minors are into sports so they are preventing those minors to have a knowledge about gambling. Paying taxes wont stop the government to still regulate casinos, again this may be a big loss but at least they can still operate legally, TV ads might be the new options.

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It's not that they want to eliminate gambling, it's crazy as they are profiting from it and Spain is one of the gambling-friendly countries.

Let's see what will be the result of the regulation they made. If it's positive or negative, only time will tell.

The benefits of the government can be reducing the number of addicted people who will play gambling because once people see many gambling games, they will want to try to make money. That can be dangerous to them if they do not have control which we know most do not have. Or the government does not receive the tax from each casino so they decide to limit advertisement from the casino. Maybe the government does not tell the public and we can only guess while that can be good to people because they will not see too many gambling ads while they are at home.

Government will never do such thing like banning sports betting, because gambling businesses contributes a lot in a Government (taxes) that's being use in their country (hopefully) and not to their own benefits like corruption.

Many people could still use the latest technology called internet in order to find anything, banning ads and any promotions of gambling will never affect their daily bankrolls. Advertisements that are shown in televisions and social medias are just to inform what's new about them, etc. People who want to play gambling will find their way to get what they want, always.

Yes, the rules are made like just about empty rules that basically anyone who wants to do gambling then they can still do it. Because as far as I know the prohibition made by the government is not only about gambling but people can still do what is prohibited, so in this case what I understand is only about. The ban may only be made to make young people aware and also those who are too deep into addicts, because with such a rule at least it will make them more aware and can be held accountable for what they do related to gambling itself.

The ban will not be able to kill the gambling industry in the digital era as it is today, but I think what the Spanish state authorities have done is correct, because nowadays many children will follow what their idols do and say and of course it's a bad thing if they do gambling just because they see their idol promoting gambling sites on television, just like in my country, the government only allows television to publish advertisements for cigarettes, gambling, and also adult related things at midnight.

They really don't need the ads because they're going to have customers anyway, the people that wants to gamble will find them anyway. Also, they can probably circumvent this ban by making another feature to their casino like hotels or theatre performances.

It should stay this way until gambling operators become socially responsible and to protect the vulnerable and the underaged. Since it’s not a total ban, I propose that a 12-month study be carried out to evaluate the effect of the partial ban on the economy and on those who are addicted to gambling. If it is effective in curbing the spate of the addiction and no significant harm to the economy reported, then bravo. If not, then they should go back to the drawing board and review.

People who are often playing on certain casinos will not get the effect because they will easily come to that place. Even they will get more customers if their member can promote among them about the places. That promotion will be strong enough besides using the ads because they get the right casino from the people who have experienced gambling on that site or place. The casino will use the other way to attract new people to come to their place and one of the ways can be to build a hotel that can cover their casino.

I understand that governments need to help the addicted people but if you are a gambling addict, then some casino name on a jersey should not be the thing that triggers you to become one, you are already one and that means you already gambled.

I would say some of them could make sense, like for example TV ads should always be banned all around the world because not only it hurts adults but it even hurts youth as well, no google ads or anything, and even all those illegal websites with movies streamed for free but you have to watch casino ads and all that, basically it is all horrible. Long story short if you know what you are doing then you should always be staying away from it and government should be doing it properly. But, jersey sponsorship? Is that really needed? I mean I doubt that is the biggest cause people start gambling.

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Exactly this is what governments do not understand, they do not control what the citizens want and unless we all recognize it is a behavior that needs to be curbed, like stealing, then despite the limitations people are going to keep doing what they have been doing, this is an interesting workaround, the companies keep producing alcoholic beverages but only advertise their nonalcoholic beverages, casinos could do this already as many of them already have a restaurant on their installations and promote only that while they keep the brand alive in the minds of their clients.

In these cases they seek publicity in another way, in a very Ninja way, there are always ways to do it, in fact in Venezuela there are ways to promote online casinos, they do not say words like: Bet, Play and win, they say: You can win a lot of money if you make predictions with us, then the word Bet is changed to Predictions, it is a very hidden advertising, but valid, bettors understand it quickly, although I have seen in some news that in the country some traditional casinos will reopen, if things go In this way, it is the ideal time for casinos and online gambling platforms to enter with everything.

I can indirectly say if you look at your thread that it doesn't matter how strong the government is in minimizing anything but if the casinos or alcoholic beverage makers or businessmen already have relationships and subscriptions from their regular clients then all of that will not have a significant impact because they still have regular customers who will always come and be with them.
and even if that's the case then actually advertising or promotions like that are not fully the main benchmark in attracting visitors now (if they already have regular subscriptions), because even these regular visitors will actually benefit considering that the visitors will at least be sure to promote for the closest people. if the performance of the company is both in terms of service and in terms of quality.

That is what happens because in fact, most of the products can be increased only by the people closest to them and finally the product is included in the advertising program. So that it can be said that the products that have been advertised are successful products that continue to experience growth, so that even though the government prohibits their advertising, basically they will continue to grow and will not be harmed by the ban itself.

An endorsed statement from a friend, a colleagues or those who have had a great experienced from a nice casino establishment were much worth enough than publishing an advertisement in a national TV. There it just come out the case of bans on betting ads something didn't affect the casino businesses because people who wanted to play could still make a way even without proper advertisement. The government wanted to make a smart move like this kind of bans on betting ads, no celebrities endorsement, no sport sponsorship and no daytime ads to help those who suffered from gambling addiction but to be honest this are not really affected the gambling business.

Simply put, maybe because the product has become famous and with advertising to make it even more famous with a wider scope, more or less like that.
and indeed without it, no matter how hard the government prohibits it, of course there will still be lots of loopholes, both externally and internally.
and the prohibition of advertising will actually reduce their spending on advertising costs, although on the other hand the level of promotion they do will also be slightly hampered. but this is certainly not a problem for them.

at least Spain can show their fangs in this kind of issue and they are showing how concern they are for their peoples ability to gamble.
we must agree that celebrity really brings big impact to the people and they even followed what they promote.
Gambling must have their own market and places of advertising and not in open network.
also this has been becoming a large problem of all the world so best to have limitation for their allowing gambling areas.

If the government banned such display of gambling or the likeness of it for the underage people who could get exposed to it and altogether become victims of the system, I don't think it's the gambling firm, or the kid's fault if they do fall into this trap. Most of the time parents are the ones who were supposed to look after their kids and of course that goes for the things they view on the TV or on the internet as well. You can't keep a creator from creating the same content he is well-known for just because you don't deem it appropriate enough for your son. What you do is you take measures so you don't expose your kid to such contents. This should also be the case for gambling. You are right about this. But then again I feel like these types of ordinances catered to "protecting the innocent and the minors" ever do work in the best of their intentions. This is prolly what goes here for the cryptogambling advertisements' ban. It feels like the ban isn't necessary considering these types of exposure can be solved by a little supervision from the parents themselves, or at least a pep talk about gambling and its dangers directed towards informing your kids. I can clearly tell parents of the future become more and more complacent about developing and raising their kids.

It matters because what you are mentioning works on the short term but over the long term they still need to find new clients and while recommendations by those close to you are without a doubt the strongest form of advertising why casinos should renounce to make any attempt to reach a larger audience? As I said they could just promote themselves as a restaurant and while never mentioning the fact they have a casino they just let people know they can get some additional fun at their restaurant.

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I think Spain government has taken this drastic measure because it has seen a huge spike in gambling from young people of age 18-25 which is the future of the country being impacted by those ads and not being that effective in their society and work.Most teams in Spain are sponsored and has always been sponsored by such ventures,gambling ones and they will lose a good portion of their revenue.Spain has taken this measure because it is affecting its economy by taking a huge portion of the youth absorbed in gambling as I see no other explanation to be such aggressive in a new law.

Unfortunately this is not a long term solution.

The root cause of young people gambling is definitely not this. People don't feel the urge to gamble just because they see a celebrity/athlete wear the banner of a certain sportsbook company on their jersey.

Rather, there is clearly some underlying greater economic issue that needs addressing. Why are people finding the time/motivation to want to gamble? Addressing the symptoms is not a good way to tackle a problem.

You cannot say advertisement cannot affect a business or a gambling business. Remember, advertisement is the most powerful tool to promote and sell your product and services.
Now, As far as gambling addiction is concerned, seeing no ads will not help them overcome their addiction because the urgency to gamble is within their mind not with seeing ads on TV or seeing their favourite sports celebrity advertise a certain casino.
However, i have to agree that an endorsement from a friend or someone you knew you can trust is quite better than seeing ads everywhere.

This is indeed not a long term solution because sports is not the only place to advertise gambling, this may affect many but if those casinos was able to find another way, then the government will go back to the basic again and they might totally ban the advertisement of the casinos which can affect everything. The government have to think for a better solution to prevent young people in gambling, this can saves their lives.

Controversial opinion but I agree with this. We do not show adult content in the day time and only show it past a certain time because of young people that could be watching. Gambling is the same because with cryptocurrency gambling websites KYC is not a requirement and it is easier than ever for children to illegally gamble I think reducing the amount of exposure they have is the best option we have until we can get more regulations with cryptocurrency websites to stop young people gambling.

Yes they do why are you wearing a gambling signature? because it generates traffic for the gambling website that is renting it out. Children are not immune to advertising and they will be interested just as much as adults.

The government's approach may not be very efficient.
But for sure, they already done their assessment of why they are implementing such protocol.
In a way, it may help reduce the possibility of younger generation to get interested with gambling.
Because if these young individuals will see their idols promoting certain gambling platforms, they may really be curious and check about it.

As explained, this is not a long-term solution but it will help to spread the gambling ads. In Romania's case, the government banned Twitch due to gambling streams. Underage watchers are affected heavily by those fake money streamers and the advertising goes wrong badly. Probably Spain should find a feasible solution rather than banning it.. The gambling sponsorships target young individuals for obvious reasons, so having strict rules can reduce the effect significantly.

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This may be the start for the Span government to regulate more gambling advertisement, and we can really say that there's a lot of false advertisement that affects the life of many young people. Strong implementation should be followed or else gambling casinos can still find a way to advertise illegally, I hope those casinos will be more responsible and advertise the right way, many young people are already into gambling because of those advertisement, this could be the start to prevent it.

I agree with you when you say the root cause must be addressed. I believe there are two possible reasons:

• Young people possibly want easy, fast money and sports gambling advertisements makes they think it's possible to achieve their goal through this activity;
• Lack of productive opportunities disponible for youngs in the regions where they live. With jobs offering too low payrates, people tend to search for alternative ways to grow their earnings and gambling looks attractive at first impression for them.

If there were more jobs, more earnings opportunities for everyone this issue would probably be heavily decreased without the need of banning any ads... However, it's really a big issue which goes beyond the will and reach of any governments. The truth is that there are too many people in the world right now for a much lower number of jobs spots disponible.

Keep in mind that governments don't bother about such activities if they pay taxes despite the critics. Same case for cigarettes and alcoholic drinks.
Having strict rules against illegal advertisements for gambling activities can surely reduce the number of persons joining gambling through a random ad, but surely won't prevent those casinos to find new methods to overpass rules .

That is an explanation however this is not the correct way to go about this, a society that prides itself on how they are so liberal cannot go around banning gambling ads, what is next? Banning alcohol ads because the young are drinking too much? The young are not going to stop doing it just because the governments does not allow advertising anymore, and the same is true with gambling, the young will do whatever they want and they will keep gambling even with this ban.

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Its a serious concern that underage kids are falling badly to gambling sector and its collective responsibility of Parents, Government and society to stop this from happening. I don't think its a bad move since mature gamblers will find a way to do it. By advertising gambling to young minds will increase chance of there inclusion in this area which is a bad thing.

The issue is that I am not so sure such a wide ban is a good idea, after all while that statistic is worrying we also need to consider the circumstances in which those kids are and that is causing them to gamble at such an early age, while this is just a supposition the most likely reason why those kids are gambling so early in their lives is because they have someone on their lives that do so and has not explained to them that this is something that is bad for them at such an early age.

Yeah, and it's because kids will always be curious at their age and they should be given proper knowledge about it so they can't be curious anymore. It's kinda obvious that a kid is curious about it because there are some old people around them that play gambling, they will not get curious if they don't know what it is. It should be also taught in school and give proper discipline for those who will caught gambling even money isn't included because gambling will still be gambling.

Spain seems to be affected much on underage gambling. The gambling addiction that happens underage is very serious issue and one can't easily come out of it. What Spain government has taken is an initiative to make gambling more of a fun element than an addictive factor.

In my country we've got more and more gambling platforms and the way it is being promoted is really worse. It is must to have some censor and investigation before an ad is being allowed to be broadcasted. Because, they show gambling an easy way to make money. This will easily make any category or age group people to get into it with big expectations.

Of course this will have an impact on a club where there is no sponsor or promoter in it. I can't understand why the spanish government is doing that when we know there are some clubs there that will certainly get the impact. even though if you look at gambling it's not that bad. even in most countries some people make gambling a job but there are still countries that forbid it. maybe with this new regulation there are positive and negative sides so you can't judge a thing. I think it will be a tough job.

There is some different views about this news surely it's going to have serious impact on different clubs earning because many clubs are going with big deals and have good funds from them for advertising purpose, but suddenly authorities announces about this is unusual because just ban is never been going to have any positive way of anything they need to talk about this in society.
 
As Spain is one of developed and Liberal country in Europe they must start some debate and have all views before doing any strict policy like this because right now situation is not favoring their decision and this can bring some serious impact on their this platform.

Absolutely agree with your opinion. I think after this law enters into force, the authorities will conduct research on the impact of this law on society and on sports in general. If this law will not lead to a serious reduction in revenues in the field of sports, I think it will not be softened. Most likely this will happen since there are several sponsors from other sectors that will gladly agree to place their logos on the shirts of famous soccer clubs. 

It was going to happen at some point. First it starts with one team pushing the boundaries and accepting an advertiser with questionable credentials because they pay the most. Then it becomes "normal" and many other teams are targeted for sponsorship by casino operations. Same thing happened with cigarette advertisers in the past and caused them to be banned eventually. Junk food advertisers are banned in quite a few countries as well because it is a bad message to relay to a huge audience. These clubs should been reining in their spending anyway, it is absolutely ridiculous the ever higher amounts that is spent on these so-called wonder players.

As it progress, the government will see the impact of it. If it's gaining good results based on their own view, the said regulation will stay. If it's not, there might be a restructuring or remodifying that will happen. There might be other ways that clubs are thinking right now. In the first place, Spain won't create such actions if no big reason/s after all. Their gambling industry is so big.

Let's see what will happen within a year or two. Adjustments will surely be made by those clubs to keep up on track.

In my view the goverment is trying to prevent gambling adictions. The young have now the internet gabling that was not available before. The companies that run the sites add pretty much zero value to the Spanish economy and create many external negative impacts, namely impacting on the young´s minds. Gambling is for adults and I should add, only for responsible adults.

Which is why this is such a bad idea, the governments are always trying these solutions in which they mandate people to do what they want when a simple campaign informing this is becoming a problem and that parents give a little bit more attention to their children and explain to them this is wrong for them at such an early age would be enough, with this they are affecting the gambling and the sport industry just when they need the revenue the most as the pandemic has been hard on all industries and they need the money to recover the losses they suffered during the last year.

The continuous advertising by the gambling company is to keep up reminding their players, and on about new features they added and new bonuses and new promotion they have, there are occasional gamblers, these gamblers only play when there are new promotions or bonuses, without these promotion and giveaways advertising, there's no way to reach out for them.

For what I think they will not implement that ban if they didn't see it getting worse so I think that banning of betting ads is totally okay so that we cannot see a major spread out of gambling addiction on that country, but what good thing there is I think they didn't fully ban the gambling activities or the casino just the ads so the gamblers still happy despite of the action made by the government.

I think that governments also make all these movements to find a type of link to negotiate with these companies, of course this is achieved with great secrecy, it is something that not many know but this type of business exists but in this case I know that Spain He is very delicate with everything that has to do with Crypto, with taxes, although internet advertising is something that is much more difficult to control.

I think that if these ads are legalized, it is because they will guarantee a tax according to the type of advertising, I am not from Spain, but I think that things can go in that direction.

This is a good point, governments know very well that they make the rules of the game so they can threat whole industries with the severe actions against them and they know they can use any excuse that they want as people are going to believe them in order to officially raise them the taxes that they need to pay or they can do this and force them to pay an amount of money under the table that can serve for other politicians of the same political party to try to gain positions of power, this is corruption but it happens all over the world.

Setting bans in betting adds was just one of the way of the government to prevent a drastic effect of gambling into its constituents especially to lessen the curiosity of the child that could possible watch the adds. Eliminating the possible gambling addiction is impossible because a gambler will always find a way to engaged in gambling even if the government prohibited it. I see the positive side of this implementation for the sake of those vulnerable people but in gambling sector this may greatly affect the exposure of the establishments and business.

Probably to minimize the exposure of those gambling site, especially many young people sees the player advertising such gambling company so its not good for them. Just like in UK now where they are regulating the advertisements about gambling for the purpose of this one, they are just protecting their people. Beside, those clubs can get other sponsorship, gambling sites are not the only option for them.

Yes, they want to protect their young people from seeing the gambling content in the advertisements. If that is about the player advertise something besides gambling, that will surely allow by the government. But the matter is if the young people see so many gambling advertisements, the government is afraid that the young people can get in the wrong way. Maybe the gambling companies need to modify their advertisements for the player so it does not look to expose the gambling but could replace showing their company logos.

The problem is that things are never that simple, I understand your point, on the surface this may seem to be a good thing as they are trying to protect the vulnerable, but we must understand that by doing this they are affecting the gambling, sport and the media industry, many jobs will be lost while we are still in the middle of a pandemic and we know that getting another job can be difficult, so is it worth it? And when you take into account all the factors the answer to that question becomes way more difficult.

Spain have their reason to do so since many young people were engaged in gambling, however there will be some indistry that may leesen their income due to this banning, it will just be a matter of how they can still attract players with ads at night only. There are other platforms to do ads as well. It can work if they can team up with the government on their implementation like setting up that players should be on legal age and some agreement terms for them to still keep their business.

Surely Spain is denying themselves tax revenue from a valid past time.  I'd rather they tax betting in some form, allow business to advertise itself and reduce the load on vital natural businesses and people from excessive taxation and government debt which every modern western country seems to have in modern times.

Sure, Spain Government have specific reasons to do such kind of bans and I think every country will sure going to do the same thing if the vulnerable on the said issue were the young ones. But somehow these kind of bans may result to a less market strategy effectiveness of any affected gambling sites but on the other hand thinking that the one who can saw the adds are those who in legal aged are somewhat acceptable why this kind of ban were implemented.

This is bad but gambling is one of those businesses that really don't need to advertise their service or product because they're still going to get more customers no matter what and what they lost in advertising isn't going to be that problematic. Take note that most customers of this kind of businesses that don't need advertising has a rich customer base.

Only traditional casinos' marketing will be prejudiced, while crypto casinos' marketing will be highly effective after a ban on gambling by the government, as the public will look for alternatives to keep betting and crypto currency seems the perfect option in this case. And actually I have noticed crypto gambling advertisements are increasing in numbers and also in quality right now.
There are so many ads banners, reviews sites, lives or videos in different platforms and promotions disponible that I believe the migration from traditional casinos to crypto ones is happening quickly than expected.

While you have traditional casinos being forbidden from contracting celebrities and sportsmen, you have crypto casinos like Stake featuring sportsmen and partnering with UFC. As we can see the decay of part of the industry is also the rising of another side. And that is a natural thing, because businessmen, celebrities and athletes won't stop profiting just because a government impose them a prohibitive regulation.

key thing is: bad for who?
not for bitcointalk signature campaigns if Spain gambling business end up coming online

in the end I think its good to have some regulation on the kind of publicity we allow on media, specially for young people

Brazil could definitely benefit for having less ads about beer and alcohol...
we don't have gambling ads here

idk...

They're not denying tax revenue, they're just trying to lessen the exposure of gambling, and no matter what, they will still be able to take the taxes on this gambling houses no matter what because they're the government after all.

I'm not sure that people will gamble less but the only obvious thing is the loss of money from spanish footbal clubs. and we all remember that their income due to covid is not so high.

We know sports is the easiest business that promotes gambling and stopping sports sponsorship and celebrities advertising gambling sites will be a big blow to gambling companies. I do not know whether to call such a decision a Lionel Messi effect and am wondering if that decision would have been in place if Messi was still in Barcelona. I do not think it would have happened.

I disagree in parts, every business needs publicity to keep growing.
No matter how good service and no matter how large a company's customer base, it will always shrink over time.
An example that advertising is needed is in the subscription campaigns themselves here on the forum, we're at a stage where gambling advertisements dominate among the best subscription campaigns, why? because this is necessary to capture crypto gamblings players, which proves the opposite of what you said.

If they don't like the exposure of gambling in their country then they can put the ban hammer instead doing doing things which isn't effective at all but affect the people financially who are living in that sector.

in theory raising the price of a good will supress demand, unless it's a Veblen good like some Wine bottles, maybe bitcoin
I don't think gambling would be a Veblen good, raising its price (due to taxes or something else) will probably make it less appealing for some

don't you think?

Exactly, as if it feels that there's something behind or intent out of those bans and prohibitions in regards those source of revenue out of those clubs. Its true that it could really affect the people financially

who are involved with this or simple make the situation even more harder.There are no other ways on where they could really get some source aside on those aforementioned above.

They cannot stop it even if they will stop the exposure of gambling. It's known and there will still be ways for gamblers to get on it but I agree about the worry for those people that are living on it.
If they ban it then there will be also those people who are working on this sector that will be badly affected. It's only an if and if they ban but they have to reconsider that there's a big loss for them.

You should realize that putting a ban totally will make things much worst. You care for financial concerns but not looking at the post-effect if there will be a total ban. There's no mention that they don't like gambling exposure. They are just limiting the marketing content and it's not just Spain alone who approved it but the European Commission themselves.

It's stated that; "betting companies sponsoring teams and athletes had contributed to the ‘normalising’ of betting which has ‘serious health and social risks’. It claims that athletes' status as role models had led to an increase in gambling among young people aged 18 to 25, rising from 29 per cent to 40 per cent in the last four years. The amount of money spent by young people in Spain on gambling, meanwhile, had risen by 13 per cent annually."

And because of the pandemic, that number might be much higher since everyone is in their home. It's no secret that Europe is the most active in gambling during pandemic that's why everyone, at any age, got exposed to gambling.

I don't think so because in Spain people love football and like placing bets on their favourite teams. now there are many crypto bookmakers that will offer similar services without attracting attention from local tax agency.

The rumor has it since early 2021 but i thought the ban jas been lifted in july/august as ive seen the news about that.
but seeing some clubs like alaves didnt have a main sponsor in their shirt makes me confused.
so its still there ... the ban is still there i dont get it with the way such advanced country doing this . to protect the young citizen that in gambling crisis ? well i still dont understand with this method.

spain clubs just compounded pain through huge debts...

For a long time there were no specific laws to regulate online gambling sites in spain the spanish government has begun to move towards regulating and legalizing online casino websites this led to the adoption of the relevant law online gambling in spain, which eventually established the foundation of licensed operators. It is very interesting to bet on the game of football in spain so the adoption of a tax will establish a new basis.

That's not a good suggestion, it will harm existing gambling casinos and players, they will have to go underground and risk getting arrested, the gambling industry in every country have their loyal customers, and banning them will harm, not only their loyal players but people who are working in the casino but businesses that are working and affiliated to casinos, that's a huge number of people going unemployed, it's better that they follow the regulations and just hire more promoters and affiliates and rewards them for bringing in more players.

maybe the main objective of the government here is to prevent the use of advertisement luring younger players.
because we knew that the use of these ads includes the risk of teenager to fall into gambling as they commonly seeing in celebrities or even in Televisions.

the Spain government only shows their best concern for their people not to become addicted as youngster are commonly the victim here.

I know that the immediate ban of anything will burst the people who are addicted to it and they will become crazier than ever while my statement is that their real intention of doing this is not to limit the gambling activities because the casinos will find other way to promote if one way is getting banned that is what I really wanted to mention about.

I didn't say people don't love it, just said that raising the price (being with taxes or something else) will make less people to gamble, in Spain or anywhere else
I don't think gambling can be a Veblen good, unless some really specific forms of gambling (or degenerate trading)

The world is now a civilized place that every country would want to socialize its citizens except for the countries that are govern by detectors, last I check Spain doesn't have any similarities of China and some hard-core countries who restrict people in many things.
Gambling is one of the biggest industries where revenue are been generated, they can't choose to ignore the impact on the economy but regulation would have been better for the safety of everyone. The government that has always been about their pocket are claiming to be protecting her people, odd system of government.

I agree I understand that regulating the gambling industry is necessary but there is a difference between that and overregulation, and I think that is what we are seeing here, if people are abusing of gambling in any way or form then it is up to the government to take some measures like creating campaigns about the dangers of gambling compulsively or to do so at an early age, but to ban ads is a huge mistake as this affects too many industries while the benefits are minimal at best.

I think they still want to protect their young people, this is not the way, when they are young there is no fear of anything, in fact there is a great belief that they are capable of doing whatever, if something is prohibited, naturally they will want to do it jumping all The rules, if they want to protect their young people, the best thing is education, cultivation, it cannot be a taboo subject, it all has to do with making money.

They want to do this like the drug problem, they want to do many things against it, of course drugs are dangerous, they even kill, but I think that advertising in crypto is an exaggeration that they are prohibited, I think that is not the way.

But they chose to do these restrictions and they know the economic impact of it. If it's likely been the bread and butter of their economy, they won't do things that will be unfavorable to the industry.

They have other sources for their economy and that's why they put that much restriction on gambling.

It may be not easy for the government to take this decision.
But every decision must be considered and take because of some strong reasons.
We don't know exactly how the gambling cycle has been spreading in the country, how many addicted people are growing rapidly from time to time in the country.
Gambling may give big income for the country, but if it also offers bigger negative influence moreover, the country should take the certain decision.

All sorts of advertisement is necessary. Even if you are popular, you need to advertise so that others don't replace you. It will be problematic for them. They will miss the chance of getting potential customers. They have rich customer base, but they need even more! It's going to affect the teams the most. They are going to lose sponsorship. But I honestly don't like those gambling adverts they used to show on the TV. Most of them were "unrealistic" and very literally encouraging everyone to gamble.

Correct, the desire to protect the young from gambling I think it is justified and I think we can all agree with that, the problem is how they are dealing with this, as we know every single law has more consequences than the ones intended by the governments, banning ads like this is problematic as the gambling industry now will suffer because of it while those that depended on the revenue from those ads will suffer too, will the decrease in the economic activity be worth it? I doubt it, because even if this helps a few people to not get addicted to gambling the same could have been achieved with an awareness campaign.

Sure Spain have gone through research and studies of what would be the impact to their economy if betting ads will be ban. We all knew that gambling industry really contribute a great revenue to the economy of a certain country and that's what I have observed here in my country because gambling is legal here but never I have had encountered gambling advertisements in our national television. I guess maybe this is just one of the way of the government to prevent those kid become curious about gambling.

It will be hard for gambling site to continue there stay in Spain since the government had decided to attack there business and the right for citizens to advertise there favorite betting companies. This is a big hit on the entertainment industry cause betting companies are most ready to sponsor entertainment to the moon so that there companies can also be held. If the government is no more interested in taxes gotten from betting companies then, maybe something is wrong somewhere.

Well they can innovate and join the online scene since for this they can widen up their market then possibly they can get more gamblers came from different parts of the world. This is now the trend so if they want to continue there business well its good to find some ways to make it more alive and they can market it anywhere then can do anything without government bothering them in terms of marketing.

Young people can not hold their emotion or passion when they feel excited instead trying getting involve deeper without thinking about the risk that they can get from gambling. That is why the government is doing that in the hope that they can protect young people from gambling because they have a long journey in their lives.

Maybe besides banning gambling, the government and the parents need to educate young people to understand the risk or other things that can happen if someone involves in gambling. If the government and the parents can do that, I think it will give young people knowing that all that things are dangerous for them and should not break that.

this is the thing
incentives are twisted all over the place
maybe through web 3 we'll find a way to align incentives and give more freedom for people to choose what they want, with less regulations

But if the government will impose laws in regards to this, there is no way they could make it and they should have to pay, otherwise.
As it was noticed that the gambling industry is growing, the governments will be taking this a chance to get profit, that is how bad and corrupt the government system we had. Personally, I don't have such claims as it was our obligation to pay taxes as we run a business legally but too sad to see that these people urging us to pay huge tax which is not really acceptable.

Is that sort of an attack? maybe so they have to do in able for them to gain elsewhere or to stop what they're trying to stop.

There are a lot of sponsors that are coming from the bookies and it's really a big hit for them if they stopped accepting that to happen. Spain being strict on these things, they should have at least be a little bit loose on it if they want to give the people affected with this policy to still have a better means of living.

I don't know if you really understand my statement as your response has nothing to do with my post. It's not that people who are addicted to gambling will turn into rampage mode if there's a total ban. That's not totally what I meant but on the whole gambling aspect if ever there will be a total ban of gambling there starting from financial aspects to the economic effect.

If casinos will find others to promote their brand then so be it. As long as they are complying with the new betting ads terms there should be no problem.

I think once Spain sees the output and result of his betting terms, like being negative or turned into bad situation, they will immediately modified what on the terms. For now, since it's now in effect, let's see what will happen next. The terms will not be formed in the first place if it's done in rush. There are lots of consideration that being talked in the discussion before taking it place. It was planned properly and organized before it was decided to be implemented.

While a socialist party led coalition governs Spain at the moment, it has nothing in common with China or other authoritarian regimes - Spain is a democracy that works reasonably well, laws and rules are followed and got realistically free elections, like most western European countries. When you speak of Socialism in Europe you are talking about social democrats not about Marxism, Stalinism or the like.

Of course for the gambling businesses, businesses need to stay relevant so they do advertising and sponsorship to place their name on where the public can see it while watching their favorite sports.

Well ...as far as I know , Spain has a gambling problem so that is why you never see local betting houses in the streets corners like you see in rest of the countries in Europe. Per example in my country you have one betting house near every local show ...and the number of them is still in rising so no wonder why Spain decided to make this step and ban de ads because they have a massive gambling problem among the citizens and most of them are youngsters.

just adding some other points to the discussion
on places drugs are forbidden you don't see any ads about drugs on television, radio or whatever, pretty sure that even places with lighter regulations still don't have massive ad campaigns on that

I understand we need ads to feed the "passion for products" and I know from experience that they work

but not all industries need ads

the example of the drug market is a good one because people don't need television or internet ads, it just sells

What drugs are you talking about? Pretty sure I can give you some examples of those drugs that you're talking about. There are ads for cough medicine in my country. Well, not all industry but given how glamorous and how ads benefits almost any kind of business, I don't think that there's no industry that Haven tried advertising.

oh, yes, not talking about traditional drugs here that are bought on the pharmacy but about street drugs that are forbidden,
the ones politicians usually make a lot of money with but that are banned so they have a black market and a premium over price

the point it
for these you still have high demand even without ads

Even though I don't use drugs, not even alcohol, I like to learn about markets and how the world works

I don't think it's a relevant comparison because gambling is not a prohibited activity like selling and using drugs. At least in democratic countries, then I think gambling operators should be free to promote their offers and people should be free to accept them or to refuse them.

I don't think so, every product definitely needs advertising so that they can be known by everyone. But in this case, the advertisement has several types of gambling advertisements, drug products, and also all that have the aim of being known. There are direct ads and indirect ads. You have to think about this carefully because advertising is one of the most important factors in expanding your network.