Spain bans betting adds - no celebrities, no sport sponsorship, no daytime adds

[kotajikikox]

https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/la-liga-betting-shirt-sponsors-2020-21-season

The new law has knocked down strongly all the preferred advertising options for betting business. They cannot, for example, be on a teams shirt nor celebrities from sports are allowed to promote betting houses or platforms. Also, the adds in TV can only be run late at night. Needless to say that is a torpedo on the finances of several teams and may affect their ability to recruit and maintain the right players.

Teams directly affected:

Alavés (Betway), Cádiz (Dafabet), Granada (Winamax), Levante (Betway), Real Betis (Betway), Sevilla (MarathonBet) and Valencia (Bwin).

at least Spain can show their fangs in this kind of issue and they are showing how concern they are for their peoples ability to gamble.
we must agree that celebrity really brings big impact to the people and they even followed what they promote.
Gambling must have their own market and places of advertising and not in open network.
also this has been becoming a large problem of all the world so best to have limitation for their allowing gambling areas.

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[pinggoki]

If the government banned such display of gambling or the likeness of it for the underage people who could get exposed to it and altogether become victims of the system, I don't think it's the gambling firm, or the kid's fault if they do fall into this trap. Most of the time parents are the ones who were supposed to look after their kids and of course that goes for the things they view on the TV or on the internet as well. You can't keep a creator from creating the same content he is well-known for just because you don't deem it appropriate enough for your son. What you do is you take measures so you don't expose your kid to such contents. This should also be the case for gambling.

They really don't need the ads because they're going to have customers anyway, the people that wants to gamble will find them anyway. Also, they can probably circumvent this ban by making another feature to their casino like hotels or theatre performances.

You are right about this. But then again I feel like these types of ordinances catered to "protecting the innocent and the minors" ever do work in the best of their intentions. This is prolly what goes here for the cryptogambling advertisements' ban. It feels like the ban isn't necessary considering these types of exposure can be solved by a little supervision from the parents themselves, or at least a pep talk about gambling and its dangers directed towards informing your kids. I can clearly tell parents of the future become more and more complacent about developing and raising their kids.

[Silberman]

In my country, advertising of alcoholic beverages on TV is banned, but that hasn't stopped many alcoholic companies from producing non-alcoholic beer and advertising it under the same brand name. It is quite possible that in this situation, too, they will come up with a workaround that will satisfy the needs of both sports clubs and bookmakers.

Exactly this is what governments do not understand, they do not control what the citizens want and unless we all recognize it is a behavior that needs to be curbed, like stealing, then despite the limitations people are going to keep doing what they have been doing, this is an interesting workaround, the companies keep producing alcoholic beverages but only advertise their nonalcoholic beverages, casinos could do this already as many of them already have a restaurant on their installations and promote only that while they keep the brand alive in the minds of their clients.

I can indirectly say if you look at your thread that it doesn't matter how strong the government is in minimizing anything but if the casinos or alcoholic beverage makers or businessmen already have relationships and subscriptions from their regular clients then all of that will not have a significant impact because they still have regular customers who will always come and be with them.
and even if that's the case then actually advertising or promotions like that are not fully the main benchmark in attracting visitors now (if they already have regular subscriptions), because even these regular visitors will actually benefit considering that the visitors will at least be sure to promote for the closest people. if the performance of the company is both in terms of service and in terms of quality.

It matters because what you are mentioning works on the short term but over the long term they still need to find new clients and while recommendations by those close to you are without a doubt the strongest form of advertising why casinos should renounce to make any attempt to reach a larger audience? As I said they could just promote themselves as a restaurant and while never mentioning the fact they have a casino they just let people know they can get some additional fun at their restaurant.

[Saint-loup]

I do not understand what they mean when they say that this law does not affect sponsorship of betting abroad and also has anyone else seen this? I speak of this:

Barcelona’s official betting partnership with 1XBet is a global deal.

from what I knew here on the forum this site 1XBet is a scam, they also have agreements with banks in my country and Mpesa in my country, but they are scam, it is very strange that they have agreements with an important team and banks in my country

A partnership with 1xbet, this is maybe the worst decision ever made by Barcelone !  Any other team partner with this scam site ?
Even stranger to see match odds from 1xbet in many great websites of statistics and scores. i was surprised to see its ads in flashscore.com which is one of the most used website by gamblers from all over the world.
It seems that only bitcointalk community believe that 1xbet is a scam and should not be trusted at any cost, however it's very strange that those great platforms don't search about the reputation of their partners or ads providers .

How do you know 1xbet is a scam site? Where have you seen that please? And where have you seen that "the bitcointalk community" believes it's a scam? To answer your question 1xbet has sponsored great teams as Chelsea, Liverpool or Tottenham. And when they terminated their contracts they didn't accuse the platform of being a scam.

These included taking bets on children’s sports, advertising on illegal websites, cockfighting live streams and promoting a casino featuring topless croupiers.

https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/chelsea-and-liverpool-join-spurs-in-dumping-1xbet-sponsorship/

[coupable]

I do not understand what they mean when they say that this law does not affect sponsorship of betting abroad and also has anyone else seen this? I speak of this:

Barcelona’s official betting partnership with 1XBet is a global deal.

from what I knew here on the forum this site 1XBet is a scam, they also have agreements with banks in my country and Mpesa in my country, but they are scam, it is very strange that they have agreements with an important team and banks in my country

A partnership with 1xbet, this is maybe the worst decision ever made by Barcelone !  Any other team partner with this scam site ?
Even stranger to see match odds from 1xbet in many great websites of statistics and scores. i was surprised to see its ads in flashscore.com which is one of the most used website by gamblers from all over the world.
It seems that only bitcointalk community believe that 1xbet is a scam and should not be trusted at any cost, however it's very strange that those great platforms don't search about the reputation of their partners or ads providers .

How do you know 1xbet is a scam site? Where have you seen that please? And where have you seen that "the bitcointalk community" believes it's a scam? To answer your question 1xbet has sponsored great teams as Chelsea, Liverpool or Tottenham. And when they terminated their contracts they didn't accuse the platform of being a scam.

I had the same attitude Bro about how those great teams to be sponsored by a suspecious casino until i read your reply. I regret accusing 1xbet without valid proofs. Just now to see how 1xbit scam already uses a missleading brand like 1xbet as mark in Bold.
Sorry man, i got confused with the 1xbit scam casino. You can observe the similarities in spelling. Just upon your note i checked how i was mistaken. And i guess user Slow death got the same spelling confusion. I will edit my previous post with link to my clarification here. Thank you Saint-loup .

[swogerino]

I think Spain government has taken this drastic measure because it has seen a huge spike in gambling from young people of age 18-25 which is the future of the country being impacted by those ads and not being that effective in their society and work.Most teams in Spain are sponsored and has always been sponsored by such ventures,gambling ones and they will lose a good portion of their revenue.Spain has taken this measure because it is affecting its economy by taking a huge portion of the youth absorbed in gambling as I see no other explanation to be such aggressive in a new law.

[xypos]

I think Spain government has taken this drastic measure because it has seen a huge spike in gambling from young people of age 18-25 which is the future of the country being impacted by those ads and not being that effective in their society and work.Most teams in Spain are sponsored and has always been sponsored by such ventures,gambling ones and they will lose a good portion of their revenue.Spain has taken this measure because it is affecting its economy by taking a huge portion of the youth absorbed in gambling as I see no other explanation to be such aggressive in a new law.

Unfortunately this is not a long term solution.

The root cause of young people gambling is definitely not this. People don't feel the urge to gamble just because they see a celebrity/athlete wear the banner of a certain sportsbook company on their jersey.

Rather, there is clearly some underlying greater economic issue that needs addressing. Why are people finding the time/motivation to want to gamble? Addressing the symptoms is not a good way to tackle a problem.

[Oasisman]

In these cases they seek publicity in another way, in a very Ninja way, there are always ways to do it, in fact in Venezuela there are ways to promote online casinos, they do not say words like: Bet, Play and win, they say: You can win a lot of money if you make predictions with us, then the word Bet is changed to Predictions, it is a very hidden advertising, but valid, bettors understand it quickly, although I have seen in some news that in the country some traditional casinos will reopen, if things go In this way, it is the ideal time for casinos and online gambling platforms to enter with everything.

An endorsed statement from a friend, a colleagues or those who have had a great experienced from a nice casino establishment were much worth enough than publishing an advertisement in a national TV. There it just come out the case of bans on betting ads something didn't affect the casino businesses because people who wanted to play could still make a way even without proper advertisement. The government wanted to make a smart move like this kind of bans on betting ads, no celebrities endorsement, no sport sponsorship and no daytime ads to help those who suffered from gambling addiction but to be honest this are not really affected the gambling business.

You cannot say advertisement cannot affect a business or a gambling business. Remember, advertisement is the most powerful tool to promote and sell your product and services.
Now, As far as gambling addiction is concerned, seeing no ads will not help them overcome their addiction because the urgency to gamble is within their mind not with seeing ads on TV or seeing their favourite sports celebrity advertise a certain casino.
However, i have to agree that an endorsement from a friend or someone you knew you can trust is quite better than seeing ads everywhere.

[crzy]

I think Spain government has taken this drastic measure because it has seen a huge spike in gambling from young people of age 18-25 which is the future of the country being impacted by those ads and not being that effective in their society and work.Most teams in Spain are sponsored and has always been sponsored by such ventures,gambling ones and they will lose a good portion of their revenue.Spain has taken this measure because it is affecting its economy by taking a huge portion of the youth absorbed in gambling as I see no other explanation to be such aggressive in a new law.

Unfortunately this is not a long term solution.

The root cause of young people gambling is definitely not this. People don't feel the urge to gamble just because they see a celebrity/athlete wear the banner of a certain sportsbook company on their jersey.

Rather, there is clearly some underlying greater economic issue that needs addressing. Why are people finding the time/motivation to want to gamble? Addressing the symptoms is not a good way to tackle a problem.

This is indeed not a long term solution because sports is not the only place to advertise gambling, this may affect many but if those casinos was able to find another way, then the government will go back to the basic again and they might totally ban the advertisement of the casinos which can affect everything. The government have to think for a better solution to prevent young people in gambling, this can saves their lives.

[Zedpastin]

Controversial opinion but I agree with this. We do not show adult content in the day time and only show it past a certain time because of young people that could be watching. Gambling is the same because with cryptocurrency gambling websites KYC is not a requirement and it is easier than ever for children to illegally gamble I think reducing the amount of exposure they have is the best option we have until we can get more regulations with cryptocurrency websites to stop young people gambling.

Unfortunately this is not a long term solution.

The root cause of young people gambling is definitely not this. People don't feel the urge to gamble just because they see a celebrity/athlete wear the banner of a certain sportsbook company on their jersey.

Yes they do why are you wearing a gambling signature? because it generates traffic for the gambling website that is renting it out. Children are not immune to advertising and they will be interested just as much as adults.

[TimeTeller]

Controversial opinion but I agree with this. We do not show adult content in the day time and only show it past a certain time because of young people that could be watching. Gambling is the same because with cryptocurrency gambling websites KYC is not a requirement and it is easier than ever for children to illegally gamble I think reducing the amount of exposure they have is the best option we have until we can get more regulations with cryptocurrency websites to stop young people gambling.

Unfortunately this is not a long term solution.

The root cause of young people gambling is definitely not this. People don't feel the urge to gamble just because they see a celebrity/athlete wear the banner of a certain sportsbook company on their jersey.

Yes they do why are you wearing a gambling signature? because it generates traffic for the gambling website that is renting it out. Children are not immune to advertising and they will be interested just as much as adults.

The government's approach may not be very efficient.
But for sure, they already done their assessment of why they are implementing such protocol.
In a way, it may help reduce the possibility of younger generation to get interested with gambling.
Because if these young individuals will see their idols promoting certain gambling platforms, they may really be curious and check about it.

[seleme]

As explained, this is not a long-term solution but it will help to spread the gambling ads. In Romania's case, the government banned Twitch due to gambling streams. Underage watchers are affected heavily by those fake money streamers and the advertising goes wrong badly. Probably Spain should find a feasible solution rather than banning it.. The gambling sponsorships target young individuals for obvious reasons, so having strict rules can reduce the effect significantly.

[Saint-loup]

I had the same attitude Bro about how those great teams to be sponsored by a suspecious casino until i read your reply. I regret accusing 1xbet without valid proofs. Just now to see how 1xbit scam already uses a missleading brand like 1xbet as mark in Bold.
Sorry man, i got confused with the 1xbit scam casino. You can observe the similarities in spelling. Just upon your note i checked how i was mistaken. And i guess user Slow death got the same spelling confusion. I will edit my previous post with link to my clarification here. Thank you Saint-loup .

No problem bro, you're right 1xbit is not the same platform as 1xbet, and 1xbit has obviously scammed several people here. But in fact they are offering the same markets as 1xbet and many people think they are related to 1xbet even if they officially deny it.
On the wikipedia page of 1xBet, 1xbit is mentioned as one of its subsidiary.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1xBet

[crzy]

As explained, this is not a long-term solution but it will help to spread the gambling ads. In Romania's case, the government banned Twitch due to gambling streams. Underage watchers are affected heavily by those fake money streamers and the advertising goes wrong badly. Probably Spain should find a feasible solution rather than banning it.. The gambling sponsorships target young individuals for obvious reasons, so having strict rules can reduce the effect significantly.

This may be the start for the Span government to regulate more gambling advertisement, and we can really say that there's a lot of false advertisement that affects the life of many young people. Strong implementation should be followed or else gambling casinos can still find a way to advertise illegally, I hope those casinos will be more responsible and advertise the right way, many young people are already into gambling because of those advertisement, this could be the start to prevent it.

[uneng]

I think Spain government has taken this drastic measure because it has seen a huge spike in gambling from young people of age 18-25 which is the future of the country being impacted by those ads and not being that effective in their society and work.Most teams in Spain are sponsored and has always been sponsored by such ventures,gambling ones and they will lose a good portion of their revenue.Spain has taken this measure because it is affecting its economy by taking a huge portion of the youth absorbed in gambling as I see no other explanation to be such aggressive in a new law.

Unfortunately this is not a long term solution.

The root cause of young people gambling is definitely not this. People don't feel the urge to gamble just because they see a celebrity/athlete wear the banner of a certain sportsbook company on their jersey.

Rather, there is clearly some underlying greater economic issue that needs addressing. Why are people finding the time/motivation to want to gamble? Addressing the symptoms is not a good way to tackle a problem.

I agree with you when you say the root cause must be addressed. I believe there are two possible reasons:

• Young people possibly want easy, fast money and sports gambling advertisements makes they think it's possible to achieve their goal through this activity;
• Lack of productive opportunities disponible for youngs in the regions where they live. With jobs offering too low payrates, people tend to search for alternative ways to grow their earnings and gambling looks attractive at first impression for them.

If there were more jobs, more earnings opportunities for everyone this issue would probably be heavily decreased without the need of banning any ads... However, it's really a big issue which goes beyond the will and reach of any governments. The truth is that there are too many people in the world right now for a much lower number of jobs spots disponible.

[coupable]

As explained, this is not a long-term solution but it will help to spread the gambling ads. In Romania's case, the government banned Twitch due to gambling streams. Underage watchers are affected heavily by those fake money streamers and the advertising goes wrong badly. Probably Spain should find a feasible solution rather than banning it.. The gambling sponsorships target young individuals for obvious reasons, so having strict rules can reduce the effect significantly.

This may be the start for the Span government to regulate more gambling advertisement, and we can really say that there's a lot of false advertisement that affects the life of many young people. Strong implementation should be followed or else gambling casinos can still find a way to advertise illegally, I hope those casinos will be more responsible and advertise the right way, many young people are already into gambling because of those advertisement, this could be the start to prevent it.

Keep in mind that governments don't bother about such activities if they pay taxes despite the critics. Same case for cigarettes and alcoholic drinks.
Having strict rules against illegal advertisements for gambling activities can surely reduce the number of persons joining gambling through a random ad, but surely won't prevent those casinos to find new methods to overpass rules .

[Silberman]

I think Spain government has taken this drastic measure because it has seen a huge spike in gambling from young people of age 18-25 which is the future of the country being impacted by those ads and not being that effective in their society and work.Most teams in Spain are sponsored and has always been sponsored by such ventures,gambling ones and they will lose a good portion of their revenue.Spain has taken this measure because it is affecting its economy by taking a huge portion of the youth absorbed in gambling as I see no other explanation to be such aggressive in a new law.

That is an explanation however this is not the correct way to go about this, a society that prides itself on how they are so liberal cannot go around banning gambling ads, what is next? Banning alcohol ads because the young are drinking too much? The young are not going to stop doing it just because the governments does not allow advertising anymore, and the same is true with gambling, the young will do whatever they want and they will keep gambling even with this ban.

[sovie]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5359739.0

I did a little research as to the statistics of underaged gamblers for last year, and according to an article, "39% of 11-16-year olds have bet their own money" as at when published in October 2020.

https://www.roulettesites.org/blog/responsible-gambling/underage-gambling.php

Just like pornographic sites, I don't think online gambling sites and casino's can fully checkmate underaged users that sign up, and as a result, unfortunately i see the number of underaged gamblers worldwide to increase significantly by October this year.

Its a serious concern that underage kids are falling badly to gambling sector and its collective responsibility of Parents, Government and society to stop this from happening. I don't think its a bad move since mature gamblers will find a way to do it. By advertising gambling to young minds will increase chance of there inclusion in this area which is a bad thing.

[Silberman]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5359739.0

I did a little research as to the statistics of underaged gamblers for last year, and according to an article, "39% of 11-16-year olds have bet their own money" as at when published in October 2020.

https://www.roulettesites.org/blog/responsible-gambling/underage-gambling.php

Just like pornographic sites, I don't think online gambling sites and casino's can fully checkmate underaged users that sign up, and as a result, unfortunately i see the number of underaged gamblers worldwide to increase significantly by October this year.

Its a serious concern that underage kids are falling badly to gambling sector and its collective responsibility of Parents, Government and society to stop this from happening. I don't think its a bad move since mature gamblers will find a way to do it. By advertising gambling to young minds will increase chance of there inclusion in this area which is a bad thing.

The issue is that I am not so sure such a wide ban is a good idea, after all while that statistic is worrying we also need to consider the circumstances in which those kids are and that is causing them to gamble at such an early age, while this is just a supposition the most likely reason why those kids are gambling so early in their lives is because they have someone on their lives that do so and has not explained to them that this is something that is bad for them at such an early age.

[finaleshot2016]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5359739.0

I did a little research as to the statistics of underaged gamblers for last year, and according to an article, "39% of 11-16-year olds have bet their own money" as at when published in October 2020.

https://www.roulettesites.org/blog/responsible-gambling/underage-gambling.php

Just like pornographic sites, I don't think online gambling sites and casino's can fully checkmate underaged users that sign up, and as a result, unfortunately i see the number of underaged gamblers worldwide to increase significantly by October this year.

Its a serious concern that underage kids are falling badly to gambling sector and its collective responsibility of Parents, Government and society to stop this from happening. I don't think its a bad move since mature gamblers will find a way to do it. By advertising gambling to young minds will increase chance of there inclusion in this area which is a bad thing.

The issue is that I am not so sure such a wide ban is a good idea, after all while that statistic is worrying we also need to consider the circumstances in which those kids are and that is causing them to gamble at such an early age, while this is just a supposition the most likely reason why those kids are gambling so early in their lives is because they have someone on their lives that do so and has not explained to them that this is something that is bad for them at such an early age.

Yeah, and it's because kids will always be curious at their age and they should be given proper knowledge about it so they can't be curious anymore. It's kinda obvious that a kid is curious about it because there are some old people around them that play gambling, they will not get curious if they don't know what it is. It should be also taught in school and give proper discipline for those who will caught gambling even money isn't included because gambling will still be gambling.