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It is strange that there is no agreed symbol that represents the satoshi uni, although I think that during the next 4 years we may start talking about it, especially with the trend of many wallets to use mBTC instead of BTC.

So what do you think is the appropriate symbol? I found this site https://satsymbol.com/.

And how the prediction will be global.

This is a very good point and has been discussed several times , but no agreement yet
This is a good Twitter thread with some cool symbols

https://twitter.com/sqcrypto/status/1155615251494256640?s=21

The biggest problem is trying to get a consensus , when Bitcoin is decentralised !

While the Japanese etymology behind the proposed symbol is fascinating and on-point, that particular symbol seems a bit boring to me. I'd want the symbol for Satoshi to be something more inspiring and easily approachable. The bland lines make it seem cryptic and uninteresting.

That being said, this symbol is very apt. Especially the part about Sat being the literal and visual structure of Bitcoin. What about some form of an s with the vertical bar. Just like the dollar but in more stylized. An interesting thing i came to know from this though is the dollar symbol is derived from Pesos..The P and S eventually merged with the S becoming prominent.

If only Satoshi would have taken the name Gintoshi, Hatoshi, or anything else like Minato or Haruto , things would have been simpler, we could have used that letter and draw two lines on it and that, with the S is the problem with the $, nobody cares that the Thailand bath resembles a bit BTC, but with the $ it will be a real mess.

As for the sign above, meh, it doesn't tell a thing, besides it looks a lot like Ξ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xi_(letter)), which eth has chosen as a symbol.

I like the symbol, it's a very interesting concept. Getting to a chosen Satoshi symbol is gonna be hard unless some proper fair voting occurs.

I personally think the symbol will come in time by itself. Never investigated how the Bitcoin logo was "chosen"/voted for if it ever was, but if the community doesn't get to a consensus it will probably come on its own with time.

1. It sort of looks like the Ethereum symbol.
2. That's a lot of strokes when trying to write down on paper.

I saw someone tweet something like this:

https://i.imgur.com/ooOHwKd.png

which I think makes a lot of sense. It's an 's', with an '@' (at) = sat. Only downside is that it doesn't look like a currency symbol at all lol.

It's worth noting that the part that it said "Japanese" isn't accurate:

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  Reminiscent of the Japanese aesthetic, the closest character being 丰
  - If you copy that character in Google translate, it'll show up as Chinese ^{[credit goes to @thatzenboi (https://twitter.com/thatzenboi/status/1446191734728372226)]}.

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The main one that they came up with resembles an ab roller ^{[a bit weird]} but having said that, I do like the one with an "S" shape.

Logotype design is an art form in itself. Not just the manual drawing of said symbol, but the conceptualization of the said symbol, that's a tricky thing. You would need something so accessible, easily recognizable, different from other visuals so it doesn't get confusing, and also a powerful statement in itself.  This is something a professional should do, someone that has worked with designing whole company images. But as someone said, it's too decentralize for that. 

Sure professionals can definitely pitch in, and I hope they do so because it doesn't hurt to have different design perspectives. It's just that it's the community who should be deciding in the end.

We talked about satoshi symbols many times and I don't think that all people will ever agree about using one standard symbol for that, and I am not a fan of using some japanese symbols that look like some other altcoins.

Yeap. This pretty much will end up being like the smaller denomination discussions on Twitter(sats/mbtc/etc) — with nothing being decided and people just end up losing interest because of the lack of majority consensus lol.

A consensus means that all the voters should agree on one option.This is close to impossible in reality.
The best method to pick a Satoshi symbol would be to list all possible symbols and let the Bitcoiners vote for their favorite.The symbol that gets the most votes should be chosen as the official Satoshi symbol.
I like the symbol that is proposed by OP on this forum thread.It has a deep meaning.
Using the Japanese alphabet to get inspiration is cool,even though Satoshi Nakamoto never claimed that he is Japanese.

This would be one of the few times I would actually say let the devs do it without any community input.
If people actually put it out there everyone from every culture from all over the world is going to have their view.
Which is fine, but you are going to have a hell of a time coming to a decision and then nobody is going to really like it.

If in the core 24.1 release a few years from now it just shows up, so be it.
It's not like it's going to change the value of BTC or how the protocol works.

I would even go so far as to say that if ANY of the major wallets (Core, Electrum, Armory) come up with their own symbol just to do it for their wallet, the others developers would probably go with it for theirs too.

Just my view.

-Dave

This design does appeal to me, so I'd support it if there were any signs of agreement in the community.  But, as pretty much everyone else has said, it's probably too subjective and everyone will like something different. 

It's really something we should have figured out years ago, back when it was easier to agree on stuff.  The larger the userbase, the greater the dissent, it seems.

I don't really like it. And the fact it resembles so much with ETH makes is even less suitable.
And I agree, there are pretty good/better options designed on that Twitter link Mbitr has posted (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5364575.msg58129028#msg58129028).

That will be the main consideration. Since bitcoin has other names for smaller units (mBTC, uBTC, sat), there will be other suggestions to create symbols for other units. Too many symbols will only confuse the user.


Just reading the bitcoin wiki, it seems the symbol in the OP is the priority of choice for some developers.

Btw, at first glance it looks like Facebook's Libra symbol, just imagine people might think libra has actually been launched.

Over the years I have witnessed (as have many others) that many are confused when using denominations for Bitcoin, and although I understand the need for such things to exist, everyone understands best when any amount is shown in the classic and well-known form. Therefore, I am of the opinion that we may not need a symbol to represent satoshi, it could only create even more confusion among users.

Did anyone even think that we might be too convinced that Satoshi is Japanese or of Japanese descent, and that these Japanese symbols may not make much sense?

I have to admit that I would be quite confused if I visited a website that has a satoshi symbol without even being aware that something like that exists. Following some of the examples given by @noorman0 in his post, this is one example of how this looks implemented in the actual site.

https://i.imgur.com/vxqyouZ.png
Source (https://satoshicap.net/)

The satoshi symbol is $. End of discussion.  ;)

I don’t know if it’s because I’m old school & have been involved & invested in bitcoin for a long time but I don’t like the term satoshi being used. I prefer just to say 0.001BTC or whatever, if you know what I mean. Maybe I’ll come round to it but it’s not for me atm.

This is going to be a little bit difficult for the community to decide. With how currency symbols are traditionally done, it seems it would be the letter S and a vertical line across it. That would be a disaster because that would definitely be confused with the top fiat symbol. It would be a very poor choice.

With the symbol suggested in the OP, that makes me think of Ethereum more than Bitcoin. So still a poor choice.

Why wouldn't we rather use the S in the Greek alphabet? S or Sigma in Greek alphabet is Σ in capital and σ or ς in small letter. We could also put a vertical line across the symbol. If the capital letter appears more like an E and therefore suggests Ethereum more than Bitcoin then we could go for the small letter. It also kind of fits that the smallest denomination of Bitcoin should also be represented with a small letter.

To be honest when the idea of ​​using a new symbol for bitcoin started to come up with the increasing number of wallet using mBTC then I started to think that there should be one approved symbol or may not. If the developer wants to get input on the community then I think the result will be much more difficult to determine because every head will have his wish 1. However the main symbol of bitcoin is still quite appropriate to use on even the smallest unit of bitcoin without having to find a replacement, imo. If a new standard is to be found, then I hope it's not too far from the main symbol of bitcoin.

Satoshi still dont have yet an official symbol as a community or crypto enthusiast agreement and I like the concept that is being shown by the OP.
Most commonly I saw this sign on Twitter, " 丰 " and it's very close to the OP's idea.  I think that doesn't have relevant insight on the Satoshi, there should be a letter S in the symbol, or the $ sign is much better.

However, there are widely adopted symbols and it looks like the OP symbol is relatively the same as the number one on the list.
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Satoshi_(unit)

By the way, thank you for sharing this.

And now that I thought about it, there really is no agreed symbol for Satoshis, even if they are the most basic unit of bitcoins it still is important. Just like cents is to a dollar, satoshi should be represented even more as a unit of value, since mBTC and other such denominations would be pretty hard to keep track of for the normal people.

The problem lies on the design. It will be hard to construct a design that fits with BTC design scheme since $ is already present.

I think there is no need to create a separate symbol for the smallest unit of the BTC coin. The international community should be able to write the sent amount in the Latin alphabet which is common for each keyboard and smartphone at present. I am completely satisfied with abbreviations such as "mBTC" (0.001 BTC or 100000 sat), "uBTC" (0.000001 BTC or 100 sat) and "sat".

I know that in 2009 Satoshi Nakamoto personally designed the first logo for the Bitcoin client v0.1.0. He illustrated a golden circle with the letters "BC" and then embedded this ICO image to the EXE file. I heard that Satoshi did not name for the smallest division of a coin, but the community began to widely use the name "satoshi" after he disappeared in 2010. Although I admit that most people own only a part of BTC coin and more often transfer mBTCs.

I would love whatever symbol that may eventually be adopted for satoshi...to me it does not matter much anyway. Or maybe we can have like a contest for this and let the community decides. the symbol that can get the most votes can be declared winner...and there can even be some promotional attached to it like an airdrop for those who voted the winner. Anyway, just a humble suggestion form an insignificant like me. 

I just see one that is not merged by the name satoshi and BTC coin. Why does BTC have a B symbol but not an S or $. I wonder if it was Satoshi's name or just the idea of a name or a memento to form this symbol. Can anyone give me an explanation of these problems? Or do you have an opinion on the satoshi name and the Bitcoin logo symbol?

Satoshi is the smallest unit of bitcoin and is still a core part of bitcoin. So far the satoshi is still using the bitcoin symbol in many online wallet but as bitcoin and its users get stronger, more and more wallets are starting to develop and adopt the use of satoshi after bitcoin itself. It is this need that requires developers to define the satoshi symbol so that wallet users can easily distinguish the bitcoin symbol and its unit. It doesn't matter if I'm wrong, this is my opinion.

That could work, why not? its universally recognisable.

The proposed symbol in the OP is far too abstract, It could be a symbol for anything really.

I also ask the question, do we need a symbol for the decimal of a Bitcoin?

BTC2.32407800$

is anyone ever going to say "two bitcoin and thirty two million, four hundred and seven
thousand and eight hundred satoshi's" for example

This is a pretty easy solution to solve here being that since we already know what Satoshi looks like, then we should easily be able to create the symbol based off his likeliness.  Below is a photo of Satoshi himself  :D  All jokes aside, I am a bit curious as to why there hasn't been a satoshi symbol out there, something that could be shown on the news and what not.

https://i.ibb.co/NCsxfsZ/Craig-Wright-Keynote-Speaker.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

     Bitcoin being as popular as it is really has a lot of eyes on it having different perspectives. Thus, a wide variety of questions and ideas comes to surface every now and then and as we see, there has been a lot of questions already with minimal answers in which we cannot even be aure of since there are no valid proof available. The same goes with this one, I have encountered such topic several times already circulating on the internet on several social media sites. But even with adding all the information, anyone's guess is just as good as anybody else's. Still though, it always is a good read when it is about BTC and satoshi. Be it conspiracies or the conversations he has had with different people.

It was a joke, obviously, due to my expectation that 1 sat will someday cost $1. Of course and it's recognizable, but it's the dollar's symbol. It brings confusion and provides nothing.

No. That's why we have other units. In this case, though, saying “two point thirty two million and seven” is fine. Otherwise you could just say 2,324.7 mBTC.

what's the point of us making or predicting the Satoshi symbol, while Satoshi himself will not tell his whereabouts. Some of Satoshi's fans seemed so annoyed with what Satoshi did that his fans never met the person who created Bitcoin.
Satoshi should announce his existence to the public so that everyone is proud to have Bitcoin because they can see people who are very instrumental to the people of the earth because with bitcoin the economy of the poor can get better and after that we will talk about a better Satoshi symbol.

the cryptoartwork artist Lucho Poletti has already dedicated himself to this topic and has even drawn the satoshi symbol in one of his artworks called 'Super Satoshi'

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBLdGOMVEAMUznn?format=jpg&name=small
https://twitter.com/LuchoPoletti/status/1446463120206041098 (https://twitter.com/LuchoPoletti/status/1446463120206041098)

i think he has succeeded very well :)

Ah thats really great artwork, love the theme and colours, only thing is Satoshi
is portrayed as a male figure, I always expect to see a gender neutral figure
keeping a sense of anonymity.

So the Satoshi symbol at first glance is too much like an @ symbol but the combination
of $@T actually works.

Waoow, I have never thought of this neither has it entered my mind the meaning and structure of Satoshi logo/symbol. This is making the view of bitcoin clearer as a product of the Asian continent, and maybe in some ways that could be the reason the Chinese government is  fighting the adoption and use of bitcoin in that region.
The symbol of Satoshi is in some form of combining three different chracters together, which includes an S, stroke (/) or T and @. Bringing these three all together is what makes up the symbol of Satoshi's logo. But, does it have a meaning in the crypto world or traditionally?