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Title: Bitcoin address linked to Bitcoin genesis address Post by: BitcoinResearchAI on October 25, 2021, 10:47:29 PM In August 2008, Satoshi pre-released the Bitcoin draft 'Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System' at http://www.upload.ae/file/6157/ecash-pdf.html, a UAE issued domain name site.
We have here some public keys: Code: 048e380ea5a5561a01be126790f981f57399bc55282d39ca346c04436e284a388dc655a90c9e4c28025bdd10cee835d857f7522d80b3e570705289314a04ebc5f5 The related Bitcoin addresses (uncompressed) are: Code: 1U1fRJ5VNP7U7xCSDLC8a7GTW1VCaGCDQ The second letters read downwards: UnitedArabEmirates Adding all the public keys (point addition) together, we get: 0497071fac2b3f401adb86c7119261187b633120a71a4e34c45c931bf776329c9fb35d1415a2322 47363087dbd351f9021a41dfe39f4ceccc6431b2fda353dbb75 Uncompressed Bitcoin address: 1C1gQwDk2sxEaYVuMjBiuCAYaNw1JE2N3s Check it, we will publish a signed message. ---------- The 7th address is the Bitcoin genesis address. 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa Title: Re: Bitcoin address linked to Bitcoin genesis address Post by: BitcoinResearchAI on October 25, 2021, 11:40:40 PM Check it, we will publish a signed message. Address: 1C1gQwDk2sxEaYVuMjBiuCAYaNw1JE2N3s Message: upload.ae Signature: HLGj4qJQzv/W06Go84XJqEjAJk65qZ168UjgJWWT2c3ECk9h7iBxYX8luEixvJMvUMsRAQbk9C/f64jXjCeDxyM= Title: Re: Bitcoin address linked to Bitcoin genesis address Post by: pooya87 on October 26, 2021, 08:30:53 AM We have here some public keys: You should provide more information on how are these public keys "linked to Genesis block address"? It takes time to search 3,086 transactions received in that address manually and searching the addresses you provided didn't show anything.So far from my point of view you posted a bunch of random public keys that could hash to those addresses (takes a fraction of a second to find) and you added those public keys to get a random address that was again never used before!!! Quote The 7th address is the Bitcoin genesis address. Genesis block's transaction isn't paying to an address, it is a P2PK output that doesn't have any addresses!Title: Re: Bitcoin address linked to Bitcoin genesis address Post by: NeuroticFish on October 26, 2021, 08:47:52 AM Adding all the public keys (point addition) together, we get: 0497071fac2b3f401adb86c7119261187b633120a71a4e34c45c931bf776329c9fb35d1415a2322 47363087dbd351f9021a41dfe39f4ceccc6431b2fda353dbb75 Yes, private key is just a big number. And yes, if you add up a bunch of numbers, you'll obtain a new number. So you did nothing special there. Adding up some public keys to obtain a new number and see it as private key means absolutely nothing, no matter how hard you try to imply anything else. Title: Re: Bitcoin address linked to Bitcoin genesis address Post by: bitmover on October 26, 2021, 11:50:12 AM The related Bitcoin addresses (uncompressed) are: Code: 1U1fRJ5VNP7U7xCSDLC8a7GTW1VCaGCDQ The second letters read downwards: UnitedArabEmirates Adding all the public keys (point addition) together, we get: 0497071fac2b3f401adb86c7119261187b633120a71a4e34c45c931bf776329c9fb35d1415a2322 47363087dbd351f9021a41dfe39f4ceccc6431b2fda353dbb75 Uncompressed Bitcoin address: 1C1gQwDk2sxEaYVuMjBiuCAYaNw1JE2N3s Check it, we will publish a signed message. Bullshit. I just checked one of those addresses, https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1i1FwPiNP8us2dLQFJeDLSv65ChohidZa It has zero transactions. You are just spamming around random addresses. Those addresses were never used, and they have no relationship or link to the genesis block or whatever. Just this post. Title: Re: Bitcoin address linked to Bitcoin genesis address Post by: NotATether on October 26, 2021, 12:30:58 PM In addition to what neuroticfish said, what kind of information would you be able to conclude from a bunch of addresses whose second chars just happen to spell out "united arab emirates"?
I think you just managed to make a new private key through split-key voodoo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5328959.msg56728796#msg56728796). Such keys have no cryptographic relation to the added private keys. Title: Re: Bitcoin address linked to Bitcoin genesis address Post by: testabcde on October 26, 2021, 12:56:19 PM Someone generated Bitcoin addresses (all unused so far) and added (ECC) the pubkeys plus the pubkey of the genesis address 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa and got a new pubkey (1C1gQwDk2sxEaYVuMjBiuCAYaNw1JE2N3s) and all calculations are correct.
Then he/she/they signed a message. The signature is correct. To sign the message I need the privkey that I don't have. Is it possible to get the privkey without having the privkeys of the list? Title: Re: Bitcoin address linked to Bitcoin genesis address Post by: odolvlobo on October 26, 2021, 07:49:44 PM Someone generated Bitcoin addresses (all unused so far) and added (ECC) the pubkeys plus the pubkey of the genesis address 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa and got a new pubkey (1C1gQwDk2sxEaYVuMjBiuCAYaNw1JE2N3s) and all calculations are correct. Then he/she/they signed a message. The signature is correct. To sign the message I need the privkey that I don't have. Is it possible to get the privkey without having the privkeys of the list? Looks like a math problem for someone who knows ECC math. I'm not that person but here is my guess: Qi = kiG so Q = Q1 + Q2 + ... + Qn = k1G + k2G + ... + knG = (k1 + k2 + ... + kn)G therefore k = k1 + k2 + ... + kn Right? As for spelling out "UnitedArabEmirates", that's trivial with vanitygen. Title: Re: Bitcoin address linked to Bitcoin genesis address Post by: mynonce on October 26, 2021, 08:17:55 PM As for spelling out "UnitedArabEmirates", that's trivial with vanitygen. Yes.... Yes, BUT...Q = Q1 + Q2 + ... + Qn = k1G + k2G + ... + knG = (k1 + k2 + ... + kn)G therefore k = k1 + k2 + ... + kn Right? ... + k7G + ... the 7th address is the genesis address and only Satoshi has (or had) k7. In August 2008, Satoshi pre-released the Bitcoin draft 'Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System' at http://www.upload.ae/file/6157/ecash-pdf.html, a UAE issued domain name site. www.upload.ae is down, but you can find the original document published by Satoshi in 2008 (ecash.pdf) and the updated version (bitcoin.pdf) here and compare them: https://draftable.com/compare/rCuIgdwzImUISatoshi called the original document Electronic Cash Without a Trusted Third Party but then changed it to Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System. The documents are not important for the calculations. They were downloadable at a UAE issued domain name site and the 2nd letters of the Bitcoin addresses spell out as "UnitedArabEmirates". My opinion: OP generated these vanity addresses to show a link to the early days of Bitcoin as the genesis address is being used for the calculations. ---------- The 7th address is the Bitcoin genesis address. Yes, in the blockchain we have 04678afdb0fe5548271967f1a67130b7105cd6a828e03909a67962e0ea1f61deb649f6bc3f4cef3 8c4f35504e51ec112de5c384df7ba0b8d578a4c702b6bf11d5f as the genesis public key that results in 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa.---------- Check it, we will publish a signed message. Address: 1C1gQwDk2sxEaYVuMjBiuCAYaNw1JE2N3s Message: upload.ae Signature: HLGj4qJQzv/W06Go84XJqEjAJk65qZ168UjgJWWT2c3ECk9h7iBxYX8luEixvJMvUMsRAQbk9C/f64jXjCeDxyM= ---------- It has zero transactions. You are just spamming around random addresses. Those addresses were never used, and they have no relationship or link to the genesis block or whatever. Just this post. We have here some public keys: You should provide more information on how are these public keys "linked to Genesis block address"? It takes time to search 3,086 transactions received in that address manually and searching the addresses you provided didn't show anything.---------- So far from my point of view you posted a bunch of random public keys that could hash to those addresses (takes a fraction of a second to find) and you added those public keys to get a random address that was again never used before!!! Yes, it is obvious that OP generated these addresses intentionally and OP didn't tell us that the generated address had been used for transactions.---------- Genesis block's transaction isn't paying to an address, it is a P2PK output that doesn't have any addresses! OP is using the genesis block's P2PK 04678afdb0fe5548271967f1a67130b7105cd6a828e03909a67962e0ea1f61deb649f6bc3f4cef3 8c4f35504e51ec112de5c384df7ba0b8d578a4c702b6bf11d5f for the calculations and the address is 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa.---------- Adding all the public keys (point addition) together, we get: 0497071fac2b3f401adb86c7119261187b633120a71a4e34c45c931bf776329c9fb35d1415a2322 47363087dbd351f9021a41dfe39f4ceccc6431b2fda353dbb75 Yes, private key is just a big number. And yes, if you add up a bunch of numbers, you'll obtain a new number. So you did nothing special there. Adding up some public keys to obtain a new number and see it as private key means absolutely nothing, no matter how hard you try to imply anything else. ---------- I think you just managed to make a new private key through split-key voodoo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5328959.msg56728796#msg56728796). Such keys have no cryptographic relation to the added private keys. How do we combine the partial private keys together? If you make a new private key how you explain it here, you would need the original private key. Else the signature would not work with the partial private split-key. But the OP signature is valid for the ECC sum of the complete list. And as we know, #7 in the list is the genesis public key. And only Satoshi has (or had) the private key.We either add or multiply the partial private keys together, modulus the secp256k1 group order so the results aren't out of the curve, to get the final, whole private key. [moderator's note: consecutive posts merged] Title: Re: Bitcoin address linked to Bitcoin genesis address Post by: odolvlobo on October 27, 2021, 09:26:01 AM I'm skeptical because the "UnitedArabEmirates" stuff and the sum of 18 keys are all completely superfluous. If the OP has the private key to 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa, they can sign using that private key. They don't need to sum a bunch of arbitrary public keys.
I believe that the rest of the production is just a distraction, like what a magician does in a sleight-of-hand trick. The question is: did he calculate it (has the private keys) or did he receive it from someone (doesn't have the private keys). Or did he do something else? Title: Re: Bitcoin address linked to Bitcoin genesis address Post by: mynonce on October 27, 2021, 06:30:58 PM Still searching, googling, calculating ...
Any suggestions? Title: Re: Bitcoin address linked to Bitcoin genesis address Post by: UAEsheikh on October 28, 2021, 01:46:49 AM Check it, we will publish a signed message. Address: 1C1gQwDk2sxEaYVuMjBiuCAYaNw1JE2N3s Message: upload.ae Signature: HLGj4qJQzv/W06Go84XJqEjAJk65qZ168UjgJWWT2c3ECk9h7iBxYX8luEixvJMvUMsRAQbk9C/f64jXjCeDxyM= Hallo OP We are interested in your work (the way how you did it) and would like to acquire it if it is not published somewhere else and when you are the owner of the work. Send us a DM for further details if you like. Title: Re: Bitcoin address linked to Bitcoin genesis address Post by: mynonce on October 31, 2021, 06:13:50 PM Hallo OP We are interested in your work (the way how you did it) and would like to acquire it if it is not published somewhere else and when you are the owner of the work. Send us a DM for further details if you like. pooya87 solved it: Rather simple. You start in reverse meaning instead of adding random public keys to the starting pubkey, you find the final key and then start working your way backwards by subtracting the pub key (of the private key you already have) from the starting public key (which you don't have the private key of). In short: The creator has only the private key for the signature address 1C1gQwDk2sxEaYVuMjBiuCAYaNw1JE2N3s. All other Bitcoin addresses are calculated with public keys and the creator doesn't have the private keys. Title: Re: Bitcoin address linked to Bitcoin genesis address Post by: naakamoto_rising on August 24, 2022, 12:28:23 PM Code: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- Title: Re: Bitcoin address linked to Bitcoin genesis address Post by: pooya87 on August 24, 2022, 12:35:20 PM 1s1wZLBTjFZJi8DrN1kogV9ZxRZxwvKQJ Congratulations, you won the troll-of-the-year award for signing a random message from a random address that has never been used or related to anything at all :DTitle: Re: Bitcoin address linked to Bitcoin genesis address Post by: casinotester0001 on August 24, 2022, 06:47:10 PM 1s1wZLBTjFZJi8DrN1kogV9ZxRZxwvKQJ Congratulations, you won the troll-of-the-year award for signing a random message from a random address that has never been used or related to anything at all :DTitle: Re: Bitcoin address linked to Bitcoin genesis address Post by: BlackHatCoiner on August 24, 2022, 06:58:45 PM One year ago OP posted a signature for the address that represents the ECC sum of that list. Now we have a second signature. And in that list, we have Satoshi's block #0 address 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa. Which, as I told you in the other thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5368214.msg60809931#msg60809931), is a trivial thing to do.Take this equation: Q1 + Q2 + Qsatoshi = Qsum. If you know k1 and k2, but you don't know ksum, you can't calculate ksatoshi. As long as you don't know at least all of them except 1, you don't know that 1. naakamoto_rising might be able to provide a signed message from some of these addresses, but not from this highly desired genesis address, for if he did, he'd have signed and published it already. (Q = point in the curve, AKA "public key"; k = private key) Title: Re: Bitcoin address linked to Bitcoin genesis address Post by: casinotester0001 on August 24, 2022, 07:06:14 PM Take this equation: Q1 + Q2 + Qsatoshi = Qsum. In the second post, there is the signature of Qsum.If you know k1 and k2, but you don't know ksum, you can't calculate ksatoshi. Check it, we will publish a signed message. Address: 1C1gQwDk2sxEaYVuMjBiuCAYaNw1JE2N3s Message: upload.ae Signature: HLGj4qJQzv/W06Go84XJqEjAJk65qZ168UjgJWWT2c3ECk9h7iBxYX8luEixvJMvUMsRAQbk9C/f64jXjCeDxyM= naakamoto_rising might be able to provide a signed message from some of these addresses, but not from this highly desired genesis address, for if he did, he'd have signed and published it already. Maybe they (Satoshi) want us to calculate it?Title: Re: Bitcoin address linked to Bitcoin genesis address Post by: BlackHatCoiner on August 24, 2022, 07:19:40 PM In the second post, there is the signature of Qsum. That makes them two. The addresses in the first post are 18. So, 15 signatures left. What we now need is the other signatures except for Satoshi's key. Then we would be able to calculate it. Yes. Good luck.Maybe they (Satoshi) want us to calculate it? Yes. That's what Satoshi does on Wednesdays. He's trying to see if some strangers can steal his identity. ::)Title: Re: Bitcoin address linked to Bitcoin genesis address Post by: casinotester0001 on August 24, 2022, 07:22:59 PM Maybe they (Satoshi) want us to calculate it? Yes. That's what Satoshi does on Wednesdays. He's trying to see if some strangers can steal his identity. ::)Title: Re: Bitcoin address linked to Bitcoin genesis address Post by: BlackHatCoiner on August 24, 2022, 07:30:09 PM Yes. Satoshi is known for being a treasure hunt bugger. All he wanted was to hold no power, so instead of releasing that private key publicly so that everyone can have it, he chose to design the most difficult treasure hunt ever made. That'd definitely help on making all Satoshi and not incentivizing random psychos on pretending to be him. That was the plan all along.
Title: Re: Bitcoin address linked to Bitcoin genesis address Post by: casinotester0001 on August 24, 2022, 07:38:33 PM so instead of releasing that private key publicly so that everyone can have it, he chose to design the most difficult treasure hunt ever made. You say it, releasing that private key would make them to Satoshi. But this is not their wish. I don't think that it is important to them to be Satoshi. Maybe they saw all that chaos "I'm Satoshi, no you are not Satoshi" and decided it that way? Title: Re: Bitcoin address linked to Bitcoin genesis address Post by: BlackHatCoiner on August 24, 2022, 07:43:45 PM That neither makes sense. Re-read my post. If he didn't want this chaos, all he needed was to make the address(es) worthless by releasing the private key(s).
Title: Re: Bitcoin address linked to Bitcoin genesis address Post by: casinotester0001 on August 24, 2022, 07:50:14 PM If he didn't want this chaos, all he needed was to make the address(es) worthless by releasing the private key(s). What do you mean by releasing the private key(s)?Title: Re: Bitcoin address linked to Bitcoin genesis address Post by: BlackHatCoiner on August 24, 2022, 07:53:26 PM What do you mean by releasing the private key(s)? Do this: 5HxDZdeVzxa7RuSpUQomY398UjjTRZp9xSz4wZbygPtDbZeeJtyTitle: Re: Bitcoin address linked to Bitcoin genesis address Post by: casinotester0001 on August 24, 2022, 07:55:17 PM What do you mean by releasing the private key(s)? Do this: 5HxDZdeVzxa7RuSpUQomY398UjjTRZp9xSz4wZbygPtDbZeeJtyTitle: Re: Bitcoin address linked to Bitcoin genesis address Post by: DeepComplex on August 25, 2022, 12:26:24 AM Who has the list of all of Satoshi's addresses with their corresponding pubkeys?
I would like a copy. Title: Re: Bitcoin address linked to Bitcoin genesis address Post by: BitcoinMoses on August 25, 2022, 11:00:01 AM Interesting but it does not make any sense. There are more than 10,000 people those who are computer scientists and programmers and coders have tried to break the Bitcoin Genesis block over the last 10 years but thy have failed.
There re more than 10,000 Journalist and reporters and Satoshi hunters are trying to find Satoshi Nakamoto over the 10 years bu they all have failed to find Satoshi Nakamoto. Why people are spending enormous amounts of times and efforts to find Satoshi ? Why they are trying to find the Genesis block private key ? The answer to the lat is they are greedy and want to steal Satoshi's Bitcoin Stash. Why can't you people leave Satoshi alone and searching to find his private key ? Just use your times to set up bitcoin or other cryptocurrency trading platform and buy and trade to make profits and become rich. Some people think, I am Bitcoin Moses, I am joker but listen you people, I am Satoshi Nakamoto and no one will find me. When left the Bitcoin from on the 12 December 2010, no it was not because, Gavin was invited by US government's agency to give a dis-closer of Bitcoin but I planned in 2007 to leave the Bitcoin Forum on the 12 December 2010. Also I planed to reveal my Identity on 14 February 2020 but there was chaos so I did not reveal my identity. Title: Re: Bitcoin address linked to Bitcoin genesis address Post by: BitcoinMoses on August 25, 2022, 11:01:53 AM Who has the list of all of Satoshi's addresses with their corresponding pubkeys? I would like a copy. Go the the Bitcoin Core Log File and download it from Genesis Block to block 40,000. you will find it. Title: Re: Bitcoin address linked to Bitcoin genesis address Post by: BlackHatCoiner on August 25, 2022, 07:15:11 PM Go the the Bitcoin Core Log File and download it from Genesis Block to block 40,000. you will find it. You forgot the address from block 40,001. That was definitely Satoshi's.Title: Re: Bitcoin address linked to Bitcoin genesis address Post by: PrivatePerson on September 20, 2022, 02:37:50 PM Try to choose from this list or ask in this thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5254914.msg59890879#msg59890879 Title: Re: Bitcoin address linked to Bitcoin genesis address Post by: franky1 on September 20, 2022, 03:38:51 PM soo many fools
the list does not prove ownership of genesis address we know genesis address has A as second letter i can easily list genesis address amongst some other keys i make eg "lets chose to put agenesis address as the 3rd in list(3rd letter of a new word) and then use vanitygen for other random nonsense addresses to spell out a word: franky or blackhat" anyone can do that.. i then convert the PUBLIC keys into numbers and then into hex and then pretend this lengthy bunch of hex came first and pretend i discovered it discovered and after discovering it i then coverted it and found a puzzle pretend to be surprised that it converts to a bunch or public keys. and pretend to be surprised that a genesis address is the 3rd letter of the word "franky" or black hat.. or whatever word i chosen at the start of the trick creation .. where previous to posting a "i discovered a puzzle" forum message i mathed the keys to create another key and then sign a message with that final key(because i made that final key) its not that complicated |