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October 25, 2021, 10:47:29 PM
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In August 2008, Satoshi pre-released the Bitcoin draft 'Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System' at http://www.upload.ae/file/6157/ecash-pdf.html, a UAE issued domain name site.

We have here some public keys:
Code:
048e380ea5a5561a01be126790f981f57399bc55282d39ca346c04436e284a388dc655a90c9e4c28025bdd10cee835d857f7522d80b3e570705289314a04ebc5f5
0402a0b6c871de393e36a4c9ce0f7df5bf89be19bbfad65ad60dd58a5663445a57e4376b7b618570b4b128720bb5d6b4f820a95ac7a835e4cd35bd9d7212db6cf8
04a84d463a9e49aaba05763aea63a6c7ae059d21c15ba20140f76749ba6dc517517ba86633713915496d060a40bc6a3a54ce4c7cd09e0fa6972d54958988f09727
0440c5e16c1000cbb64658fb2b5f4059161f048a241ca47069eac792e7ed19acd7178352d4248ad3477602724df481b0502ee9ebe3c4ae7fbff1e5106a65a213f1
04b87d8448ecdbc1a355e25a97b1a8bd9307019888d4c5e49564b2688d24c59426f2cee0728690f6de046a71b94ecad999a7bf43d3f9a7967342d8eeb7c46529f4
043fbc9db8055f5e0e0806728fee6f5a7bb32a8dea9e39f3cd3dff2099d2a9f6c239cc6449adde4fd2a91ba4aa6b04829ab75fa56077f0995a7618fc2c6bab8095
04678afdb0fe5548271967f1a67130b7105cd6a828e03909a67962e0ea1f61deb649f6bc3f4cef38c4f35504e51ec112de5c384df7ba0b8d578a4c702b6bf11d5f
041d9ac04f7bcb97c9287dba088f8dc6d12ebe7800afc002d9cd79cabf5d8f887f353992ab0d087a1167a140b94f65bba721f4397deddf2b4dd06c1791358ba188
04c5482a06b05c09ddb891579965b2952340983b3836f537954a08f92bdb4c19300bff1ddb18c17e6eaf45d3da6a0fde0259fb30215c2b60fa7305525be461be85
040c2a757fe6e8cdc7ff19f23934257c4d683e11143906ca81b344a2b3f9c61b7359d09dd5fe57cd6db25ac3037c3d153659341049600d86ef238de0ca54326714
04cf57071383bf03675ab119f26472a92eedd14c95ec6bef71f2ffe0def78f0733541bce6275706063cb09891b37ee2c92dbed1b7c4556730b18014a9d895a7c5a
048fe25d245c79f3ad055f86309a066606e41a2807b129b04f168c8f006e55aa788c98c0dd34c2a2678e09739ab8b2dfaa1c13f34ffac96f85392b57f9305223f2
0441ecaf64bd795e16a0d31c965652b1d4c378a498cf2a8605c4f579bb463e217c9d15b0be84cffb5d38c460d1bb6a1d8d6a1e0724c6d1e20c38e03fb29a070d6b
04dbf2628ff0f3fdd8c8e924a892edf1081d1ec1ba0c8ac2d4845962e7071a5e8d0971e68d25b267e3c0c8113a7ea9cf518901e01f6172e9cacac6c4942972dcf8
048e8d3eb33c9f1d13791b97b7d4e6fcc9712b168eed38a484f8bc42e6ff701b3db045b7e2d9056613f0035f6cf2fc82127b27cdf890f9d67ef1cfbb2ed64d2c47
047ca648fb53210e9f466c4ce0b55b5eb8d9ec1194ac54c264a63fe26ee189b4df133f756640144f51fd2d27f38d83f483542946ebd4c41e7db3964da69064b55d
0455da6cb587811a42e94762595a422266762a20bd9ebba81cb7f445e339a690c4539d3aaaa59073e49714f356cc5d2a80b8e7dd9e8683bcbeb64fb18052b979d7
045a2c4068da658e55ea172d055a97881c6a64adc039181b593b1b36a079e4e2d4c36db3bd60bd46fcd6fc6c42edabb194e30d5f0c5c73a8ca18480b09880e57e8

The related Bitcoin addresses (uncompressed) are:
Code:
1U1fRJ5VNP7U7xCSDLC8a7GTW1VCaGCDQ
1n1PmmBq7PajGFfnRx9BScN8sPVsr9ZCW
1i1FwPiNP8us2dLQFJeDLSv65ChohidZa
1t1k4zVHA2c6rtYM6vThJrs7hP6fFaM5j
1e1trxdiSoEd38jYTwp6WA4JZ8pdLnATZ
1d1YNFFFGgtH5koh78uYGCDdfMxqRQFuS
1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa
1r1Sc5k1pKgjn7oMYqoGxMWJZ8LmophB8
1a1qZYYhKByduzy5WihqSjztUc9NhPGCv
1b1trdMXfDRm1THWE6T4uS52DbkxrqRdQ
1E1crNsyTqBcZk3yfpNzG7ivwoRju9L9ce
1m1pLS8cVzTuyJm31qtDALb7bgWocfNtG
1i1tTgXy2Y7QsM1X9NKsdJVTgSPQqm8ay
1r164MTEsD4VgRRf9xZChHkZnNyogDNqt
1a1MNTBGCVhWap23GWLc3WTJr56RGgqV6
1t1rd2k2QT34kHnrxwGQSBFr1t6rcVhmp
1e1sPGpiT7crVPwJQgQZwjCT9YmnsUUu5
1s1wZLBTjFZJi8DrN1kogV9ZxRZxwvKQJ

The second letters read downwards:
UnitedArabEmirates

Adding all the public keys (point addition) together, we get:
0497071fac2b3f401adb86c7119261187b633120a71a4e34c45c931bf776329c9fb35d1415a2322 47363087dbd351f9021a41dfe39f4ceccc6431b2fda353dbb75

Uncompressed Bitcoin address:
1C1gQwDk2sxEaYVuMjBiuCAYaNw1JE2N3s

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The 7th address is the Bitcoin genesis address.
1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa
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Check it, we will publish a signed message.

Address:  1C1gQwDk2sxEaYVuMjBiuCAYaNw1JE2N3s
Message:  upload.ae
Signature:  HLGj4qJQzv/W06Go84XJqEjAJk65qZ168UjgJWWT2c3ECk9h7iBxYX8luEixvJMvUMsRAQbk9C/f64jXjCeDxyM=
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We have here some public keys:
You should provide more information on how are these public keys "linked to Genesis block address"? It takes time to search 3,086 transactions received in that address manually and searching the addresses you provided didn't show anything.

So far from my point of view you posted a bunch of random public keys that could hash to those addresses (takes a fraction of a second to find) and you added those public keys to get a random address that was again never used before!!!

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The 7th address is the Bitcoin genesis address.
Genesis block's transaction isn't paying to an address, it is a P2PK output that doesn't have any addresses!

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October 26, 2021, 08:47:52 AM
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Adding all the public keys (point addition) together, we get:
0497071fac2b3f401adb86c7119261187b633120a71a4e34c45c931bf776329c9fb35d1415a2322 47363087dbd351f9021a41dfe39f4ceccc6431b2fda353dbb75

Yes, private key is just a big number. And yes, if you add up a bunch of numbers, you'll obtain a new number.
So you did nothing special there. Adding up some public keys to obtain a new number and see it as private key means absolutely nothing, no matter how hard you try to imply anything else.

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October 26, 2021, 11:50:12 AM
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The related Bitcoin addresses (uncompressed) are:
Code:
1U1fRJ5VNP7U7xCSDLC8a7GTW1VCaGCDQ
1n1PmmBq7PajGFfnRx9BScN8sPVsr9ZCW
1i1FwPiNP8us2dLQFJeDLSv65ChohidZa
1t1k4zVHA2c6rtYM6vThJrs7hP6fFaM5j
1e1trxdiSoEd38jYTwp6WA4JZ8pdLnATZ
1d1YNFFFGgtH5koh78uYGCDdfMxqRQFuS
1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa
1r1Sc5k1pKgjn7oMYqoGxMWJZ8LmophB8
1a1qZYYhKByduzy5WihqSjztUc9NhPGCv
1b1trdMXfDRm1THWE6T4uS52DbkxrqRdQ
1E1crNsyTqBcZk3yfpNzG7ivwoRju9L9ce
1m1pLS8cVzTuyJm31qtDALb7bgWocfNtG
1i1tTgXy2Y7QsM1X9NKsdJVTgSPQqm8ay
1r164MTEsD4VgRRf9xZChHkZnNyogDNqt
1a1MNTBGCVhWap23GWLc3WTJr56RGgqV6
1t1rd2k2QT34kHnrxwGQSBFr1t6rcVhmp
1e1sPGpiT7crVPwJQgQZwjCT9YmnsUUu5
1s1wZLBTjFZJi8DrN1kogV9ZxRZxwvKQJ

The second letters read downwards:
UnitedArabEmirates

Adding all the public keys (point addition) together, we get:
0497071fac2b3f401adb86c7119261187b633120a71a4e34c45c931bf776329c9fb35d1415a2322 47363087dbd351f9021a41dfe39f4ceccc6431b2fda353dbb75

Uncompressed Bitcoin address:
1C1gQwDk2sxEaYVuMjBiuCAYaNw1JE2N3s

Check it, we will publish a signed message.

Bullshit.

I just checked one of those addresses, https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1i1FwPiNP8us2dLQFJeDLSv65ChohidZa

It has zero transactions. You are just spamming around random addresses.
Those addresses were never used, and they have no relationship or link to the genesis block or whatever. Just this post.

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October 26, 2021, 12:30:58 PM
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In addition to what neuroticfish said, what kind of information would you be able to conclude from a bunch of addresses whose second chars just happen to spell out "united arab emirates"?

I think you just managed to make a new private key through split-key voodoo. Such keys have no cryptographic relation to the added private keys.

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October 26, 2021, 12:56:19 PM
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Someone generated Bitcoin addresses (all unused so far) and added (ECC) the pubkeys plus the pubkey of the genesis address 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa and got a new pubkey (1C1gQwDk2sxEaYVuMjBiuCAYaNw1JE2N3s) and all calculations are correct.

Then he/she/they signed a message. The signature is correct.

To sign the message I need the privkey that I don't have. Is it possible to get the privkey without having the privkeys of the list?
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Someone generated Bitcoin addresses (all unused so far) and added (ECC) the pubkeys plus the pubkey of the genesis address 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa and got a new pubkey (1C1gQwDk2sxEaYVuMjBiuCAYaNw1JE2N3s) and all calculations are correct.

Then he/she/they signed a message. The signature is correct.

To sign the message I need the privkey that I don't have. Is it possible to get the privkey without having the privkeys of the list?

Looks like a math problem for someone who knows ECC math.

I'm not that person but here is my guess:

Qi = kiG

so

Q = Q1 + Q2 + ... + Qn = k1G + k2G + ... + knG = (k1 + k2 + ... + kn)G

therefore k = k1 + k2 + ... + kn

Right?

As for spelling out "UnitedArabEmirates", that's trivial with vanitygen.

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As for spelling out "UnitedArabEmirates", that's trivial with vanitygen.
Yes.

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Q = Q1 + Q2 + ... + Qn = k1G + k2G + ... + knG = (k1 + k2 + ... + kn)G

therefore k = k1 + k2 + ... + kn

Right?
Yes, BUT...

... + k7G + ...

the 7th address is the genesis address and only Satoshi has (or had) k7.



In August 2008, Satoshi pre-released the Bitcoin draft 'Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System' at http://www.upload.ae/file/6157/ecash-pdf.html, a UAE issued domain name site.
www.upload.ae is down, but you can find the original document published by Satoshi in 2008 (ecash.pdf) and the updated version (bitcoin.pdf) here and compare them: https://draftable.com/compare/rCuIgdwzImUI
Satoshi called the original document Electronic Cash Without a Trusted Third Party but then changed it to Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System. The documents are not important for the calculations. They were downloadable at a UAE issued domain name site and the 2nd letters of the Bitcoin addresses spell out as "UnitedArabEmirates". My opinion: OP generated these vanity addresses to show a link to the early days of Bitcoin as the genesis address is being used for the calculations.

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The 7th address is the Bitcoin genesis address.
Yes, in the blockchain we have 04678afdb0fe5548271967f1a67130b7105cd6a828e03909a67962e0ea1f61deb649f6bc3f4cef3 8c4f35504e51ec112de5c384df7ba0b8d578a4c702b6bf11d5f as the genesis public key that results in 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa.

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Check it, we will publish a signed message.

Address:  1C1gQwDk2sxEaYVuMjBiuCAYaNw1JE2N3s
Message:  upload.ae
Signature:  HLGj4qJQzv/W06Go84XJqEjAJk65qZ168UjgJWWT2c3ECk9h7iBxYX8luEixvJMvUMsRAQbk9C/f64jXjCeDxyM=
I checked it. It matches.

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It has zero transactions. You are just spamming around random addresses.
Those addresses were never used, and they have no relationship or link to the genesis block or whatever. Just this post.
We have here some public keys:
You should provide more information on how are these public keys "linked to Genesis block address"? It takes time to search 3,086 transactions received in that address manually and searching the addresses you provided didn't show anything.
They are linked through ECC addition. The sum is the public key 0497071fac2b3f401adb86c7119261187b633120a71a4e34c45c931bf776329c9fb35d1415a2322 47363087dbd351f9021a41dfe39f4ceccc6431b2fda353dbb75 (Address: 1C1gQwDk2sxEaYVuMjBiuCAYaNw1JE2N3s) that has been proved by the above signature. The 3000+ transactions are not important here.

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So far from my point of view you posted a bunch of random public keys that could hash to those addresses (takes a fraction of a second to find) and you added those public keys to get a random address that was again never used before!!!
Yes, it is obvious that OP generated these addresses intentionally and OP didn't tell us that the generated address had been used for transactions.

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Genesis block's transaction isn't paying to an address, it is a P2PK output that doesn't have any addresses!
OP is using the genesis block's P2PK 04678afdb0fe5548271967f1a67130b7105cd6a828e03909a67962e0ea1f61deb649f6bc3f4cef3 8c4f35504e51ec112de5c384df7ba0b8d578a4c702b6bf11d5f for the calculations and the address is 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa.

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Adding all the public keys (point addition) together, we get:
0497071fac2b3f401adb86c7119261187b633120a71a4e34c45c931bf776329c9fb35d1415a2322 47363087dbd351f9021a41dfe39f4ceccc6431b2fda353dbb75

Yes, private key is just a big number. And yes, if you add up a bunch of numbers, you'll obtain a new number.
So you did nothing special there. Adding up some public keys to obtain a new number and see it as private key means absolutely nothing, no matter how hard you try to imply anything else.
I don't think so. OP did a good job with the publication. The question is: did he calculate it (has the private keys) or did he receive it from someone (doesn't have the private keys). To me it is very special.

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I think you just managed to make a new private key through split-key voodoo. Such keys have no cryptographic relation to the added private keys.
How do we combine the partial private keys together?
We either add or multiply the partial private keys together, modulus the secp256k1 group order so the results aren't out of the curve, to get the final, whole private key.
If you make a new private key how you explain it here, you would need the original private key. Else the signature would not work with the partial private split-key. But the OP signature is valid for the ECC sum of the complete list. And as we know, #7 in the list is the genesis public key. And only Satoshi has (or had) the private key.

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October 27, 2021, 09:26:01 AM
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I'm skeptical because the "UnitedArabEmirates" stuff and the sum of 18 keys are all completely superfluous. If the OP has the private key to 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa, they can sign using that private key. They don't need to sum a bunch of arbitrary public keys.

I believe that the rest of the production is just a distraction, like what a magician does in a sleight-of-hand trick.

The question is: did he calculate it (has the private keys) or did he receive it from someone (doesn't have the private keys).

Or did he do something else?

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Still searching, googling, calculating ...

Any suggestions?
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October 28, 2021, 01:46:49 AM
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Check it, we will publish a signed message.

Address:  1C1gQwDk2sxEaYVuMjBiuCAYaNw1JE2N3s
Message:  upload.ae
Signature:  HLGj4qJQzv/W06Go84XJqEjAJk65qZ168UjgJWWT2c3ECk9h7iBxYX8luEixvJMvUMsRAQbk9C/f64jXjCeDxyM=


Hallo OP

We are interested in your work (the way how you did it) and would like to acquire it if it is not published somewhere else and when you are the owner of the work.
Send us a DM for further details if you like.
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Hallo OP

We are interested in your work (the way how you did it) and would like to acquire it if it is not published somewhere else and when you are the owner of the work.
Send us a DM for further details if you like.

pooya87 solved it:

Rather simple.
You start in reverse meaning instead of adding random public keys to the starting pubkey, you find the final key and then start working your way backwards by subtracting the pub key (of the private key you already have) from the starting public key (which you don't have the private key of).

In short:

The creator has only the private key for the signature address 1C1gQwDk2sxEaYVuMjBiuCAYaNw1JE2N3s.
All other Bitcoin addresses are calculated with public keys and the creator doesn't have the private keys.
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Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
https://news.bitcoin.com/online-sleuths-believe-satoshi-nakamotos-bitcoin-stash-is-a-blockchain-treasure-hunt-meant-to-be-found/
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1s1wZLBTjFZJi8DrN1kogV9ZxRZxwvKQJ
HMoLqUcrjx22an/MrY4uy2z9Nowz4Ag9x3kzsbqz+FaNDSgkH+boXhWUyEkhq4bX8c24Ju+RHwWGltWKopRcg9k=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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Congratulations, you won the troll-of-the-year award for signing a random message from a random address that has never been used or related to anything at all Cheesy

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August 24, 2022, 06:47:10 PM
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1s1wZLBTjFZJi8DrN1kogV9ZxRZxwvKQJ
Congratulations, you won the troll-of-the-year award for signing a random message from a random address that has never been used or related to anything at all Cheesy
Check the OP list, it contains that address 1s1wZLBTjFZJi8DrN1kogV9ZxRZxwvKQJ. One year ago OP posted a signature for the address that represents the ECC sum of that list. Now we have a second signature. And in that list, we have Satoshi's block #0 address 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa.
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August 24, 2022, 06:58:45 PM
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One year ago OP posted a signature for the address that represents the ECC sum of that list. Now we have a second signature. And in that list, we have Satoshi's block #0 address 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa.
Which, as I told you in the other thread, is a trivial thing to do.

Take this equation: Q1 + Q2 + Qsatoshi = Qsum.

If you know k1 and k2, but you don't know ksum, you can't calculate ksatoshi. As long as you don't know at least all of them except 1, you don't know that 1. naakamoto_rising might be able to provide a signed message from some of these addresses, but not from this highly desired genesis address, for if he did, he'd have signed and published it already.

(Q = point in the curve, AKA "public key"; k = private key)

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August 24, 2022, 07:06:14 PM
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Take this equation: Q1 + Q2 + Qsatoshi = Qsum.

If you know k1 and k2, but you don't know ksum, you can't calculate ksatoshi.
In the second post, there is the signature of Qsum.

Check it, we will publish a signed message.

Address:  1C1gQwDk2sxEaYVuMjBiuCAYaNw1JE2N3s
Message:  upload.ae
Signature:  HLGj4qJQzv/W06Go84XJqEjAJk65qZ168UjgJWWT2c3ECk9h7iBxYX8luEixvJMvUMsRAQbk9C/f64jXjCeDxyM=
What we now need is the other signatures except for Satoshi's key. Then we would be able to calculate it.

naakamoto_rising might be able to provide a signed message from some of these addresses, but not from this highly desired genesis address, for if he did, he'd have signed and published it already.
Maybe they (Satoshi) want us to calculate it?
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In the second post, there is the signature of Qsum.
That makes them two. The addresses in the first post are 18. So, 15 signatures left.

What we now need is the other signatures except for Satoshi's key. Then we would be able to calculate it.
Yes. Good luck.

Maybe they (Satoshi) want us to calculate it?
Yes. That's what Satoshi does on Wednesdays. He's trying to see if some strangers can steal his identity.  Roll Eyes

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Maybe they (Satoshi) want us to calculate it?
Yes. That's what Satoshi does on Wednesdays. He's trying to see if some strangers can steal his identity.  Roll Eyes
If Satoshi leads us all to be able to calculate key block #0, then we all would become Satoshi. Maybe this is their wish? And that is no joke  Smiley
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