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[Forwarded from Green Exchange Challenge] (https://t.me/crytalk/2560)
Hello, GREEN community. A lot of time ago we post last news. Today we want to introduce something unique in Matic(Polygon) network, that exclusively posted in Bitcointalk forum after our group in Telegram https://t.me/crytalk

We create type of token that becomes popular on Binance Smart Chain. Its a some kind of Baby tokens with automatic tax and reflections(dividends) to its holders. We made GrandpaGreen (GGREEN) token with reflection in two cryptocurrencies and tax for marketing on each trade:
✅ 4% rewards in GREEN (https://info.quickswap.exchange/token/0x8a4001fd666be272605c56bb956d11a46200db81) to support its growth (Minimum 1000 tokens needs to hold)
✅ 4% rewards in WETH to stabilize its own value (Minimum 10 000 tokens needs to hold)
✅ 2% automatically added as liquidity to the pool
✅ 2% goes to our wallet for marketing, buyback and burn, and other expenses for promotion

So in total there is 12% tax when you buy and sell, that is deducted automatically and sends rewards directly in your wallets.

We made tests on Polygon Mainnet because no possibility to do it in testnet and buy some tokens on our wallets. Right now its extremely cheap, so will no more better time to get in.
500+ MATIC added to liquidity

Lets grow our community and launch this Rocket 🚀

Contract: 0x68CaF7335aA11188D9d91E1c9a5ab73a6de827bE
Exchange: https://quickswap.exchange/#/swap?inputCurrency=ETH&outputCurrency=0x68caf7335aa11188d9d91e1c9a5ab73a6de827be
Chart: https://polygon.poocoin.app/tokens/0x68caf7335aa11188d9d91e1c9a5ab73a6de827be
Explorer: https://polygonscan.com/token/0x68caf7335aa11188d9d91e1c9a5ab73a6de827be#tokentxns

Telegram: https://t.me/crytalk

Bounty topic here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5373675

Faucet with free 100 000 GGREEN tokens every hour published as smart contract.
https://polygonscan.com/address/0x6d12915e425caa0d99e611a7b4c7425bc79931c8

Watch how to use it in our Telegram group https://t.me/greencoinexchange/417

Sorry, but it seems that this kind of project has started to be abandoned by the market, Investors are getting smarter in choosing projects, preferring long-term projects rather than gambling with meme tokens and tokens that have anonymous teams.
You need to showcase your team and set up a good ecosystem for your project.

Hello nira09. Happy to see your answer and advice. I see, that is no such interest as before, investors really more carefull.
We are long term project definitely.
This GGREEN tax token was minted as supported satellite for created earlier GREEN (launched in 2018. Token made on ethereum, than bridged to Polygon) ANN topic here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3103301). 4% rewards is paying in these currency
Its trade history you may find here:
https://info.quickswap.exchange/token/0x8a4001fd666be272605c56bb956d11a46200db81
or here:
https://polygon.poocoin.app/tokens/0x8a4001fd666be272605c56bb956d11a46200db81

We made not so wonder distribution and 99% still on our wallet. Anyway 3.5+ years clean reputation even with this fact.
Its one man project at this moment and post team not ready as post a fake team, as some marketers advise to us.

 the idea of dividends is no longer new, and as correctly indicated in the topic, investors have become smarter and no one wants to spend money on questionable projects.And it is very accurately said that no one will believe you without a team, since anonymous projects are not very popular.

Thanks for review too. I agree, that new project is less attractive on the start when no team published. Anyway as we describe before, that our previous one is live more than 3.5 years and still working to be better. Also no published team is not so important, when you see positive chart, what is possible with not fresh idea with dividends.

Buy/Sell action ->
tax for marketing -> promotion
more attention ->
more buy/sell actions ->
more dividends
=
growth

and again.

This our main strategy for this satellite token.

Reputation for these 3.5+ years is clean. I lose more personal money than earn on GREEN project and most revenue from exchange is added to liquidity.

About team and open its profiles. I'm able to it, when team will be hired. For these, need cap or positive trend.

I believe that me is less dangerous than traders, that buys this token cheap. Than dump price at any time.
By the way, there is implement anti-whale feature with maximal tokens for one account 2B (is less than 2%).

True that your previous project (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3103301) has been around for about three and a half years, but that doesn't instantly translates as a clean reputation, because no reputation doesn't necessarily equal to clean. Your last "serious" discussion was with TimeTeller around two years ago (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3103301.msg52632237#msg52632237), and from that point forward the thread were mostly just attended by you bumping your own thread,. Previously, the other 32 pages before that, are mostly filled by users enrolling your airdrop, which TnC got more and more... weird by time, like:


And how about these? How are these an indicator for clean reputation?



Users above me asked for team details, not a team quantity. Their point is on the annonimity, not the numbers of people behind it. If you feel one-manned team is enough, then by all means please proceed to reveal yourself as the sole dev. I am sure people are more than happy to know you and only you rather than not knowing anything.

Hello. I understand your interest. Open my name is necessary for trust for you.

The quotes you mentioned is regarding GRN coin times (sha-256), all GRNs with no value was converted to GREEN (with filled liqudity) and some users successfully swapped on ETH in ethereum than on polygon blockchains.
We planned this swaps(to recover all GRNs to GREEN) one month only, while node of GRN still runned. All participants with GRN was filled with GREENs.

The changing rules - is just a decision not spend money from my pocket. All previous members get their bonus as mentioned before.

Game with dice and ponzi - was completely fail experiment with 1-2 users and transactions below $0.00001

Its history exist - its history has no problems - its clean.

True they will definitely think again about joining a project whose team is unclear,
Even the most popular projects they still think long to invest.

3.5+ years was spent on parallel token, that still not bring any money for me by itself!

I understand that community will be more sure if team will be visible. Lack of published team also reason, why token still not in CG, etherscan and polygonscan.
When team will be hired, it will be published including me.

I'm sure that need at least three team members for next round: Marketer, Social(Community) manager, Main developer.
Me with these three members will be published, when its will be available to hire them.

Than web/android/ios designer, seo manager and context traffic manager, team lead.

I failed to see how and why the "variant" of the token I'm talking about and quoted matters. Just like your ponzi, what matters and proven by the quoted texts is not whether your "experiments" failed or not, it's about your post history and the intentions behind it.

You claimed to be a clean project, but you tried to lure investors into a ponzi scheme, where we all know the last person will suffers loss, as well as being very discouraged by the forum.

Please amuse and inform me, what's your definition of a clean reputation?


Tell me, why is it so crucial for you to have a team of few people before you can reveal yourself? What's the difference between unveiling yourself now with later on when --or if-- you get a team.of three? You can always make the other 2 reveal themselves later upon joining you. If revealing yourself now rather than later would eradicate the worries of your community, and if you really honest, clean, and serious wirh the project, wouldn't it be a very cheap price worth paying for?

The truth is any token, any coin, any stock and even Fiat - is Ponzi, sir. ) I'm clear with myself to name things as it is. What is also clear, that the code of those dice and ponzi was open sourced and each person can view it.

Faucet with free 100 000 GGREEN tokens published as smart contract.
https://polygonscan.com/address/0x6d12915e425caa0d99e611a7b4c7425bc79931c8

Watch how to use it in our Telegram group https://t.me/greencoinexchange/417

An interesting topic, really, as it's been brought numerous times by many people from different projects and sides, and I've given myself a lot of time to think about this. I have to say, I'm somewhat agree that some token and coin is a ponzi, but it doesn't mean every coin is.

In ponzi, it's guaranteed that the earlier participants gets the benefit while the last person suffers the damage. In investments, where price fluctuates, the first person holding a token doesn't translates they're guaranteed a profit. Projects go ATL with price under the initial price, and people who "join" during this period could reap benefits than people who joined earlier at a higher price.

Now, keeping the ponzi topic aside for a while, as you keep insisting that you held a reputation, please inform us, what achievement do all of your projects achieve for the last three and a half years?

I'm happy that my info is make you think. Also you have strong interest in this discussion. Few years ago I've seen such kind of posts like posts of opponents, and right now is just science discussion. Thank you for that!

Money is unfair in any case, in my opinion. The only thing I've used it still, because I'm still social human, what is live in commerce world(society) and believe that we can grow as a social to new level. GGREEN token and part of GREEN (that not distributed) has not value as industrial, entrepreneurship or humans work as value. I see its value of hype (not hype as high yield but hype as trend of growing interest. Finally interest = money) right now.

What I propose - is to make this hype 📈 and spend part of turnover on matter things, that can be discussed in our Green community.

I like work of Jacque Fresco - $10M spent to advertise his youtube channel as education for English speaking audience will be great as one of thing, that can be done.
https://www.youtube.com/user/thevenusprojectmedia

I like 1Billiion trees project like... needs to see, which of them has a real result.

I like works of 100% waste processing.

I like renewable energy projects.

What about GREEN value - the liqudity, that you seen here (https://info.quickswap.exchange/token/0x8a4001fd666be272605c56bb956d11a46200db81), is made from fees from exchanges on greencoin.online ~42%, SEO results and sold advertising on greencoin.life ~42%, and one investor ~16%

LOL. Please don't flatter yourself. Your info didn't make me think or opened my eyes about the schrödinger cat of ponzi, I've given it a thought and conclusion before i even stumbled upon your... insight.


Sorry, but... for these part, I might need your insight and guidance. What's the point of those sentences and how are they related to my question about your clean reputation?

nothing to say

...about GREEN value - the liqudity, that you seen here (https://info.quickswap.exchange/token/0x8a4001fd666be272605c56bb956d11a46200db81), is made from fees from exchanges on greencoin.online ~42%, SEO results and sold advertising on greencoin.life ~42%, and one investor ~16%

its loaded to quickswap for a long time, before it was on ethereum. 84% of that balance is my personal result (+ result from growing crypto price)
https://i.ibb.co/MP688Jv/C917K7Uu.png

Graph since May. Looks natural, no? Because no critical manipulations.

I think... I understand your message wrongly, were you saying that 84% of the trade happened on that graph were from your own result, as in your own trade? And, not necessarily a separate topic, what is the daily volume of those graph?

I think you understand wrongly with what I'm trying to learn by asking about your reputation. What I wanted to know is your achievements, milestones, or development of the projects for the last three and a half years.

84% from all liquidity, that added is not trading result. Its result from fees on greencoin.online exchange and advertising on greencoin.life rest was made from matic, eth, btc price growth,
About volume I confused because links to professional tools was given in the first post and in post, that you quote. In average its 1000$ daily.

Development of greencoin.life greencoin.online sites is achievement

As I understand, that I'm duplicating all info, that was given before.

Ahh, I see now. So by "personal results", you're referring to the liquidity provided and funded by the project itself. And for daily volume, pardon the cluelessness, I am exre rarely use DEX and that was the first time I went to quickswap, so the cluelessness should be understandable. [1]

As for development, the irony is you feeling you duplicating info and still failed to provide the exact information asked although the question is quite clear. If I have to be more specific, this is the point I wanted to know:

On your GREEN ANN thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3103301.0), you made these milestones below,

https://i.ibb.co/87TJNsm/Proposed-milestone-1.jpg (https://ibb.co/DRsNzW1) https://i.ibb.co/HhMW91v/Proposed-milestone-2.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

And three years after, an update of achieved milestones are on what the next images show. I am divided between if you had an outdated info on yout website, or... none of the initial achievement are actually achieved.

https://i.ibb.co/89QVD3D/Updated-milestone.jpg (https://imgbb.com/) https://i.ibb.co/LrygPVh/Updated-milestone.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

So please re-inform us, what achievement --aside from launching websites-- do you get from the past three and a half years to support your claim of clean reputation?

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[1] On a completely different and unrelated topic, exploring quickswap lead me to a fake telegram group attempting a phising (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375393.0), please be warned, everyone.

CryptorClub can't answer right now, so I will answer.
The original group of QuickSwap in Telegram is https://t.me/QuickSwapDEX
I ask to join Green Exchange group in telegram also. https://t.me/crytalk

After researching uniswap I feel less sense to use CEXes in future. Liquidity can load any person at any time, and at anytime withdraw (with his revenue from each swap 0.3% that was done during this time), using transactions to smart contracts directly. Web user interface, that you see - is just interface. If tomorrow something happens with Uniswap/Quickswap domain names - you will have access to smart contract with another user interface or send commands to ETH/Polygon blockchain directly.

Roadmap is really outdated, none of SEO milestones wasn't reached, because was not filled cap, even ridiculous 50$
SEO was really easy on that moment with stable money-flow (1500$ monthly)
We was at TOP3 with such keywords:
crypto exchange online
instant cryptocurrency exchange
and many other keywords

on that keywords, that on screenshot we was at TOP30, so it was easy to be on top3 with (50-100)$ monthly budget on each keyword.

Right now SEO is more difficult and more expensive. Without stable money-flow (from $10k monthly) no sense to start go to TOP again.

P.S. My opinion, that focus on clean reputation from member with nickname holydarkness a little bit sharp, you don't think so? (I understand that percent of scams is around 50/50 in crypto)

Hi, thanks for jumping and filling in. I am assuming you are... another dev of this project?

Replying to your post script first, as I feel it's kinda right on point, I have to agree that the use of "clean reputation" would sounds a bit judgemental and has a tendency of negative tone. Although I have to counter-argue, just to be clear, that I raised the point because CryptorClub kind of stressing, borderline bragging, that the project has a clean reputation, while I think there is quite a difference between clean reputation and no reputation, given they didn't mention any worth-mentioning development since the project started, especially when this "reputation" itself was tainted with a bump in the past where you encourage a ponzi scheme.

Dropping the ponzi matter for now to be ore focused on the matter at hand, a project, or someone, who barely has no development or something worth mentioning for years doesn't exactly translates as a clean reputation. To put into perspective, let's say someone invested certain amount of fund into a project, and the project has no development for three years, other than a casual "we'll launch an update soon" will it be true to claim that the project has a clean reputation? While it is also true that it is not necessarily translated as a "bad reputation", I think bragging that you're trustworthy just because you've been around for three years plus is not really well placed or necessary. Thus, "no reputation", not bad or good until proven otherwise. BUT, to move forward and giving benefit of doubts, I think it would better to drop the term "reputation" completely and focusing on the topic about the progress of the project, which leads us into the next part of your reply...

You said that the roadmap on the website is outdated. Why doesn't it be updated? I thought --based on the impression I got from CryptorClub's previous post as well as the goals you state on the website and ANN thread-- one of your focus are on the website, I can only imagine how an interface and the information provided on the site should plays a major part on it. Can you please shows the progress achieved during the past years? It will effectively shows how clean... ehm, how advanced your project is.

Last, just a small curiosity, assuming you're part of the team whose opinion matters to the progress of the project --at the point when I wrote this, I have no answer of your position, so I have to assume you're part of them-- and you are not in favor of CEX, then why trying to use Tokpie which leads to the trouble that pushes you to raise the accusation on the other thread?

Hello. You have strong interest on this topic. Don't know why. Are you really interested to invest? Curiosity? Community interests?
I'm not full-time part of team, but write here covering interests of Green team direction and CryptorClub account was muted on 30 day because of "incentive posts" on Bounty topic (it wasn't, because those topic collect addresses for airdrop). Anyway that was recognized as incentive and answer from CryptorClub, seems we got in New Year.
Maybe needed best, experienced Bounty manager, to manage that thread.

I think, that branch of clean reputation regarding ponzi was closed, because whole finance system is ponzi, no?
I'll try to explain what means exactly under clean reputation.

We not planning to make hurt or harm to other people
In our task not set to make scam project

We understand that:
ANY money relationships - is Unfair
ANY user of any coin (fiat or crypto) has less benefits than user, who print this money, or buy it earlier

When written ponzi and write about all percentage and rules(mathematics, open source) of each transaction - is fair.
When scheme is ponzi - and written, that is not or hidden - in not fair
Is much fair, than to write Casino and user don't know source code (percentages, mathematics).
In casino user lose in any case - casino wins.
In ponzi user wins, in time when next user comes.

user1 buys unit for 1.1 - (next user2 pays 1.2tokens and user1 gets this 1.2tokens) - (than user1 can rebuy next unit for 1.3 to get 1.4 from next one)
this chain mathematically infinite, and even theoretically (because of newborn people) - and unfair.
(AND IT HAS OPEN SOURCED CODE)

For me is absolutely has similar principe as borrow money for %
Borrow money for % - unfair (because nowhere to get %)

World - Unfair
(and it HASN'T source code, or its still not de-compiled, at least by our team)

We are clean to understand this and retranslate it as is. No darkness here. User should understand this. Everyone should understand is!

Additionally, ponzi was not successful at all. There was <100 transactions with sha256 greencoin (GRN). That has no value at that moment. Whole turnover was less than $0.0001
All GRN at that moment was swapped to GREEN by requests.

One of users swapped his mined 0.5M+ GRNs onto 5M+ GREENs ($1k) and when we start load liqudity in GREEN, sold it. Story of another our loss as project, because this was money from our personal work, but not from other users investments.

Work of developer is to fix mistakes, that he type before. We are going this way. Using possibilities and resources we have and trying do best.

Our plan for all revenue (GREEN + GGREEN) that we have:
- Reinvest into its promotion to grow it price and our community
- Finance a lot of "Green" things that we post before (its about clean reputation also, we still has this plan) like promoting educational movies of Jacque Fresco - We start to think about it, when the free of liqudity cap will be $10M+
- Finance our team

Regarding dropping development and updating roadmap on the site.

Whole project(s) has four servers (0.9 Tb only text data, no images and no video)
This project(s) was programmed using at least 7 computer languages (SOL, SQL, HTML, CSS, Unix, PHP, Javascript)
human languages (pure Text English, different User Interfaces, voice negotiations, videos, social promotion (Bitcointalk, Telegram, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube))
SEO - search engine optimization, that was spent 50k in total to research and be on top for ~1+ year on a lot of specific targeted keywords.

Greencoin.life has more than 10 Million unique visits for these three years (up to 40k+ unique visits daily) 100M+ pages
Greencoin.online has turnover more than $10M and earn 0.5% fees on it. No serious fails.

and all of these things was work of one man. Sorry, for not updated milestones, and still not created WhitePaper.

After all of these things we got only one serious investor, that believe in us and part of GREEN tokens belongs to him.
one investor and investment in liquidity (Means we not spent it).
few others with amounts ~200$, that we tracked. We don't know about rest wallets, if they still active.
And after 3.5 years project alive.

Main reason, why not updated roadmap, because our time to update it not worth it.
You may see, that GGREEN was launched already 13 days.
GGREENs - extremely cheap.
Faucet was launched 12 days (all needed to pay gas ~$0.01 to receive 100k tokens).
And there is no a single human transaction for these two weeks, except ours. ZERO
With whole work done. Result for GGREEN - 0

Roadmap is not core of our project as result, is just vector. Because a lot of decisions and priorities was modified. Whole site should be like a diamond and modified to WEB3, with brilliant English (that we haven't, its not our native language) and this is a lot of work. Updating roadmap is nothing, in my vision. SEO works and budgets should be recalculated from the scratch, but at most other things is still right, it reflects our concept.

Migration path of coin was:
from SHA256 to ETH ERC20 (standard)
Now Polygon ERC20 (from May 2021) that is fully bridged at anytime between Ethereum and Polygon.

About CEX. There is a single reason why we tried to work with Tokpie, is that they convinced, that they can list our token on CoinMarketCap, CoinGecko and Etherscan. (At least one of these things should be great for us). None of this, they not finalize. 750$, on that moment, is loss. 30k Green Tokens ($6.56 value on this moment) on their balance.

We made a lot of mistakes, but at each time working to fix it. That's why our our reputation, minds, hearts and souls seems clean. Not? We will try to fix.

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holydarkness, I spent a lot of my time to write this post. Hope its affect not only on you, but on whole Bitcointalk community.

Our whole financial system with fiat, cryptos, economies, competitions and monopolies - is big collapsing and unfair thing. 80% of budget of each government spent on security from other governments. The single reason why we use money, because whole world playing this rules right now, and difficult to survive and grow up without them, when whole world depends on it.

Works of Jacque Fresco is the trial to think out of the box and think about global community rules without money. Its important for Education.
Its without other smart things(included in roadmap), that we can finance until build stable concept of new relationships.

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Hope its clear, Green Team

Darling, sweetheart, here's the thing, it could be negotiable that you use linksme.ga account to finish discussion regarding TOKPIE's questionable decision because your main account get temporarily banned, but it's another different case if you keep using this alt-account to update this project, because that's borderline ban-evasion and it's forbidden by the forum.

CryptorClub, will manage this and Tokpies topics as soon, as his account will be available.

Seems account works now. Will manage this topics.