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Title: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: drsnuggles on December 02, 2021, 08:48:01 PM Talks in Europe are mentioning a vaccine mandate for everyone. Germany and Austria plan to have it mandatory starting from 1st of February. Other countries worldwide could follow.
Imagine you don't have the covid vaccine and vaccines become mandatory. What would you do? -Accept -Flee -Rebel -Pay fine for each vaccine you miss -? Inspire us with your story. Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: suchmoon on December 02, 2021, 08:55:45 PM Imagine you don't have the covid vaccine Why? But if you really think you're wronged by the government, the only realistic option is to vote. All that "rebel" shit will be nipped in the bud as it always is. Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: saddampbuh on December 02, 2021, 09:05:47 PM been ignoring the government all my life and never had any major issues, helps now that i have lots of cash and crypto but even when i didn't i was the same way
Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: LTU_btc on December 02, 2021, 11:54:33 PM I must say that I got two shots somewhere half year ago. But I'm not really fascinated about idea getting third, fourth shot and so on. Tow is already enough for me.
I got Covid19 last week, so, they won't be able to force to take vaccine in upcoming 6 or 7 months. or maybe few months longer if I will have antibodies after it. But then, I don't really know what to do. I don't want to take vaccine at all, but also I don't want to be basically isolated from living normal life or leave job. Rebel, I doubt it's going to help. From all these protests against covid restrictions around Europe, did they achieved something? Flee? Ok, where? Pay fine for not taking vaccine. Probably it's going to be big, but that's not main issue. Even if you will pay fine, without taking vaccine they won't let you to live normal life with all these restrictions. If they really will make vaccine mandatory, I'm sure that big Black Market for covid passports will appear. Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: BADecker on December 03, 2021, 12:36:10 AM The USA is different, although many people don't know it. Don't wait for the fake mandatory.
Right now file a notice that that my body is my body, belonging to nobody else. Anybody for any reason who manipulates and/or controls my body without my authorization, is required to put up a warranty bond to the tune of $500,000,000 for any harm, accidental or otherwise, that they do to my body or mind while in their custody. If they are going to inject anything into my body without authorization, that bond goes to $500,000,000,000 if it is found to have been one of the Covid vaccines or booster shots. Come on. Pay the fee for freedom. Give them their $200 or $300 to record the notice. Make a little money for your State. Then send copies of a certified copy of the notice to all local law enforcement in your State... maybe to ALL law enforcement in your State. Get friends and neighbors to do it, and to even do States around the one you live in. This isn't a fight against Covid. This is a fight to maintain freedom. And it is a legal one. You as a man or woman have the right to protect yourself against unlawful laws and mandates. Do this now, and when the mandates come, file a copy of your notice against the man or woman mandating in your State, and get some money-in-hand from them right at the start. In addition, any of you who have a good idea of what to do now on the legal end rather than the "demonstration" end of things, please post the details here and in their own thread if appropriate. 8) Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: drsnuggles on December 03, 2021, 11:47:46 AM Thanks for all the replies so far. Let me summarize:
@suchmoon suggests to vote different. Sounds indeed very useful if you happen to have an election or referendum in the upcoming months. @saddampbuh suggests to just ignore the government. That sounds as the most peaceful option. @LTU_btc suggests to just accept the QR society and buy a code on the black market. @BADecker suggest to file a notice that claims your body belongs to yourself. I wonder what the protection is this will give you. I was more looking into countries that have a more libertarian mindset. A quick search shows the list needs to he updated :D. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/libertarian-countries Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: LTU_btc on December 03, 2021, 12:24:34 PM @LTU_btc suggests to just accept the QR society and buy a code on the black market. Well, I didn't said that. My thought is that if governments will make vaccination mandatory, black market for vaccine passpprts will be big. It's difficult to expect that even with mandatory vaccination 100% of people will take vaccine. Even now some are trying to get fake passports.Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: drsnuggles on December 03, 2021, 05:45:43 PM @LTU_btc suggests to just accept the QR society and buy a code on the black market. Well, I didn't said that. My thought is that if governments will make vaccination mandatory, black market for vaccine passpprts will be big. It's difficult to expect that even with mandatory vaccination 100% of people will take vaccine. Even now some are trying to get fake passports.Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: LTU_btc on December 03, 2021, 06:09:48 PM Yeah sorry, my summary wasn't exactly what you said. Would you accept a QR society, assuming you can get all the fake passports you need? I'm not sure yet, it's not easy question. I don't really want to get another vaccine shot. But getting fake vaccine passport will be quite risky - if you will be caught, you're in big trouble. I think you can even get into jail for it.I think such questions like mandatory vaccination should be answered in referendum, but it's obvious that government isn't going to ask people's opinion about it. Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: tvbcof on December 03, 2021, 07:29:24 PM @LTU_btc suggests to just accept the QR society and buy a code on the black market. Well, I didn't said that. My thought is that if governments will make vaccination mandatory, black market for vaccine passpprts will be big. It's difficult to expect that even with mandatory vaccination 100% of people will take vaccine. Even now some are trying to get fake passports. 'Fake passports' are exactly what 'they' (https://rairfoundation.com/exposed-klaus-schwabs-school-for-covid-dictators-plan-for-great-reset-videos/) want. May work for a quarter or two, but it leads all of society into the trap. Namely, an excuse for biometric ID methods which make cheating impossible, and more importantly, will be the foundation for total monitoring and control of all important biological processes. 99.999% of the population will be literally meat robots and can be selectively experimented on and generally played with, raped, culled, etc, with as much discrimination as is desired. Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: BernyJB on December 03, 2021, 07:52:02 PM I find it mystifying to see how much people care about the government, or about this or that becoming "mandatory".
Does anybody give any thought to the fact that you might DIE from covid? I have two dear friends who got covid. Husband and wife. Husband got it at work, and contagied her. Fortunately, they both survived it, but they both got sequels for the rest of their lives. So, who cares what the government says? If they PROVIDE the vaccine, I will provide my arm. And no "rebellious" BS or stupid conspiracy theory will change that. Despite what all the "Internet Infectologists" keep saying, I have already gotten both doses of the vaccine, and I'm still very much alive and kicking. So I rather trust the real experts. Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: Tash on December 03, 2021, 07:59:55 PM Very simple fight it in court
Legal definition of mandate https://www.librti.com/page/view-video?id=1002 Demand proof of Sars-cov-2 existence aka isolation Court case dismissed (Patrick King -vs- the Queen) https://tinyurl.com/4k4xv6hn To this day nobody claimed the €1.5 million euro reward proofing such a virus exists. https://www.samueleckert.net/isolate-truth-fund/ Irish government unable to produce (Dec 2020) https://www.brighteon.com/d20607a4-6bc2-43a4-9ea0-9604479b0a5b No evidence that this virus was ever isolated, aka exists. https://q17.ca/become-ungovernable/Documents/EXHIBIT%201%20UPDATED%20NOVEMBER%209%202021%20CMs%2033%20Canadian%20FOI%20responses%20from%2029%20institutions%20COMPRESS Using Koch's postulates and their updated version shows the only way that we can get the info without contamination: http://hedrick.ucsd.edu/BICD136/Lectures/Lecture16-Denialists.pdf. You can also check my sig and find out what real scientist say about the toxic junk shots Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on December 03, 2021, 08:25:06 PM I find it mystifying to see how much people care about the government, or about this or that becoming "mandatory". Ditto. My GF and I will be getting Moderna booster shots next month. :)Does anybody give any thought to the fact that you might DIE from covid? I have two dear friends who got covid. Husband and wife. Husband got it at work, and contagied her. Fortunately, they both survived it, but they both got sequels for the rest of their lives. So, who cares what the government says? If they PROVIDE the vaccine, I will provide my arm. And no "rebellious" BS or stupid conspiracy theory will change that. Despite what all the "Internet Infectologists" keep saying, I have already gotten both doses of the vaccine, and I'm still very much alive and kicking. So I rather trust the real experts. Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: Gyfts on December 03, 2021, 08:35:06 PM The extent of the vaccine "mandates" will be public shame mostly, isolating the vaxxed and the unvaxxed and pestering the unvaxxed population into conformity. Any "rebellion" that will come from these people will be little to nothing. In fact, most of the people that need the vaccine that refuse to get it are already disgustingly unhealthy, hardly mobile, so I don't expect these land masses to be at the forefront of the revolution.
Australia is so far the most authoritarian, they are gathering up the infected and locking them up in "camps." And so far, their population is accepting it as the new normal. If the Australians are indicative of how anyone else in the world will react, expect nothing. Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: drsnuggles on December 03, 2021, 08:51:56 PM Alright, let's make another summary to get things straight:
@BernyJB & NotFuzzyWarm : accept a vaccine because it helps you not dying from Covid. So maybe my fear levels for covid are not high enough. @Tash: fight in court. One way of Rebellion I would say. @Gyfts: a prediction: don't expect revolution from unvaxxed people who need the vaccine. But what about those unvaxxed who don't need the vaccine? Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: saddampbuh on December 03, 2021, 09:15:08 PM I find it mystifying to see how much people care about the government, or about this or that becoming "mandatory". because we now know that natural immunity provides better protection than the vaccines in most age groups and people shouldn't be forced to have medical treatment they don't needDoes anybody give any thought to the fact that you might DIE from covid? I have two dear friends who got covid. Husband and wife. Husband got it at work, and contagied her. Fortunately, they both survived it, but they both got sequels for the rest of their lives. So, who cares what the government says? If they PROVIDE the vaccine, I will provide my arm. And no "rebellious" BS or stupid conspiracy theory will change that. Despite what all the "Internet Infectologists" keep saying, I have already gotten both doses of the vaccine, and I'm still very much alive and kicking. So I rather trust the real experts. i'm not a conspiracy theorist, i've had two shots of vaccine, no boosters yet and as more data is released i'm becoming increasingly mistrustful, looks for the elderly/sickly it probably still makes sense to get the vaccine as you have a much higher chance of not making it through one round of covid but the rest of us don't need it, for the under 20s it looks like the (admittedly very low) chance of serious adverse reactions to the vaccine is a bigger risk than catching covid, take it or don't take it, but we should be able to make the choice without compulsion in either direction Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: Rruchi man on December 03, 2021, 09:32:10 PM The way there are so many theories and discussions as to what to do about the covid vaccine makes me wonder if that was how there were so many conspiracy theories surrounding other vaccines at the time they were first discovered and cleared for usage. If the vaccines get mandatory, most people including myself will take it and that's the truth, if it gets to that, refusal to take it will be considered definitely as an act to put the general public at risk and because how easily the virus spreads, that is something the governments will want to guide against.
Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: Gyfts on December 03, 2021, 10:43:11 PM @Gyfts: a prediction: don't expect revolution from unvaxxed people who need the vaccine. But what about those unvaxxed who don't need the vaccine? My theory is that the group of those unvaxxed that don't need the vax are so small that any rebellion effort would be squashed immediately. And really, the only place where you actually "fight back" are in democratic societies through legislative efforts. I'm only suggesting that the ones that are crazy enough to get violent in their efforts are those that are in such poor health, a flight of stairs would result in cardiac arrest. So we don't need to worry about those folks. Now, if the common sensed vaxxed population who believes in personal choice and freedoms come together with the unvaxxed crowd, you have a decent chance at defeating mandates. But given how polarizing this is, hardly any of those people left. Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: lottery248 on December 04, 2021, 01:00:44 AM Very simple fight it in court Legal definition of mandate https://www.librti.com/page/view-video?id=1002 Demand proof of Sars-cov-2 existence aka isolation Court case dismissed (Patrick King -vs- the Queen) https://tinyurl.com/4k4xv6hn To this day nobody claimed the €1.5 million euro reward proofing such a virus exists. https://www.samueleckert.net/isolate-truth-fund/ Irish government unable to produce (Dec 2020) https://www.brighteon.com/d20607a4-6bc2-43a4-9ea0-9604479b0a5b No evidence that this virus was ever isolated, aka exists. https://q17.ca/become-ungovernable/Documents/EXHIBIT%201%20UPDATED%20NOVEMBER%209%202021%20CMs%2033%20Canadian%20FOI%20responses%20from%2029%20institutions%20COMPRESS Using Koch's postulates and their updated version shows the only way that we can get the info without contamination: http://hedrick.ucsd.edu/BICD136/Lectures/Lecture16-Denialists.pdf. You can also check my sig and find out what real scientists say about the toxic junk shots +1. mandatory vaccination is against basic human rights. before COVID, have we ever had this kind of forces just to "protect from viruses"? plus, you are subject to a ban if you talk about alternative solutions such as hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin (some suggest that those were censored for off-patent but work better than vaccines). Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: Tash on December 04, 2021, 12:20:30 PM Very simple fight it in court Legal definition of mandate https://www.librti.com/page/view-video?id=1002 Demand proof of Sars-cov-2 existence aka isolation Court case dismissed (Patrick King -vs- the Queen) https://tinyurl.com/4k4xv6hn To this day nobody claimed the €1.5 million euro reward proofing such a virus exists. https://www.samueleckert.net/isolate-truth-fund/ Irish government unable to produce (Dec 2020) https://www.brighteon.com/d20607a4-6bc2-43a4-9ea0-9604479b0a5b No evidence that this virus was ever isolated, aka exists. https://q17.ca/become-ungovernable/Documents/EXHIBIT%201%20UPDATED%20NOVEMBER%209%202021%20CMs%2033%20Canadian%20FOI%20responses%20from%2029%20institutions%20COMPRESS Using Koch's postulates and their updated version shows the only way that we can get the info without contamination: http://hedrick.ucsd.edu/BICD136/Lectures/Lecture16-Denialists.pdf. You can also check my sig and find out what real scientists say about the toxic junk shots +1. mandatory vaccination is against basic human rights. before COVID, have we ever had this kind of forces just to "protect from viruses"? plus, you are subject to a ban if you talk about alternative solutions such as hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin (some suggest that those were censored for off-patent but work better than vaccines). Exactly Universal Declaration of Human Rights Quote In 1948, the issue of the right to "conscience" was dealt with by the United Nations General Assembly in Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. It reads: Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance. Article 32 of the 1949 Geneva Convention IV Quote “mutilation and medical or scientific experiments not necessitated by the medical treatment of a protected person” are prohibited. Nuremburg Codes also not allow Mandatory vaccination Quote Nuremburg Code #1: Voluntary Consent is Essential No person should be forced to take a medical experiment without informed consent. Nuremburg Code #2: Yield Fruitful Results Unprocurable By Other Means The gene-therapy does not meet the criteria of a vaccine and does not offer immunity to the virus. Nuremburg Code #3: Base Experiments on Results of Animal Experimentation and Natural History of Disease This gene-therapy skipped animal testing and went straight to human trials Nuremburg Code #4: Avoid All Unnecessary Suffering and Injury Since the rollout of the U.S. experiment, the CDC VAERS reporting system cited lots of deaths and vaccine injuries. Same in EU and rest of world. This is a grievous violation of this code. Nuremburg Code #5: No Experiment to be Conducted if There’s Reason to Think Injury or Death Will Occur Based on the aforementioned deaths and side effects, this “gene-therapy” is injurious and must be banned. Nuremburg Code #6: Risk Should Never Exceed the Benefit COVID-19 has a 98-99% recovery rate. The vaccine deaths and adverse side-effects recklessly compete against this high natural recovery rate Nuremburg Code #7: Preparation Must Be Made Against Even Remote Possibility of Injury, Disability or Death There were no preparations made by Pfizer, Moderna or its backers. Nuremburg Code #8: Experiment Must Be Conducted by Scientifically Qualified Persons Politicians, media, and Hollywood actors claimed that these vaccines were “safe and effective,” but they were not qualified to judge. Nuremburg Code #9: Anyone Must Have the Freedom to Bring the Experiment to an End At Any Time Despite the outcry from more than 85,000 doctors, nurses, virologists, and epidemiologist, the experiment is not ending Nuremburg Code #10: The Scientist Must Bring the Experiment to an End At Any Time if There’s Probable Cause of it Resulting in Injury or Death It is clear in the statistical reporting data that this experiment is resulting in deaths and injuries. Yet all the politicians, drug companies, and so-called “experts,” are not making an Furthermore, to have any scientific significance a "gold standard" is required. In this case someone unvaccinated. You must be able to compare against, messure. x is better, longer as y. It is also a fact some people with "green covid card" did receive a saline injection. Lets not forget the fact vaccines are patented and anyone who is vaccineted falls under the definition of trans human. History, similarities between Jews in WW2 and the unvaccinated today told by an Auschwitz survivor! https://odysee.com/@realworldnews:d/similarities-between-jews-in-ww2-and-the-unvaccinated:9 Oh the good old days, no face mask needed. ... https://i.ibb.co/7SLHf2v/Un.jpg (https://ibb.co/QJtZgr9) Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: Cnut237 on December 04, 2021, 12:43:27 PM Imagine you don't have the covid vaccine and vaccines become mandatory. What would you do? Most sane people would take the vaccine. But a popular new option for the crazier conspiracy theorists appears to be: book a vaccination appointment, and then turn up wearing a fake silicone arm (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59524527) to suck up all the poison juice / nanobots / tiny replica Bill Gateseses, melted down 5G masts or whatever. https://i0.wp.com/museummannequins.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/msarm898-01.jpg I heard lots of people voted for Biden using fake arms, so those votes shouldn't be counted, which means Trump won. Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: lottery248 on December 06, 2021, 02:13:39 PM Very simple fight it in court Legal definition of mandate https://www.librti.com/page/view-video?id=1002 Demand proof of Sars-cov-2 existence aka isolation Court case dismissed (Patrick King -vs- the Queen) https://tinyurl.com/4k4xv6hn To this day nobody claimed the €1.5 million euro reward proofing such a virus exists. https://www.samueleckert.net/isolate-truth-fund/ Irish government unable to produce (Dec 2020) https://www.brighteon.com/d20607a4-6bc2-43a4-9ea0-9604479b0a5b No evidence that this virus was ever isolated, aka exists. https://q17.ca/become-ungovernable/Documents/EXHIBIT%201%20UPDATED%20NOVEMBER%209%202021%20CMs%2033%20Canadian%20FOI%20responses%20from%2029%20institutions%20COMPRESS Using Koch's postulates and their updated version shows the only way that we can get the info without contamination: http://hedrick.ucsd.edu/BICD136/Lectures/Lecture16-Denialists.pdf. You can also check my sig and find out what real scientists say about the toxic junk shots +1. mandatory vaccination is against basic human rights. before COVID, have we ever had this kind of forces just to "protect from viruses"? plus, you are subject to a ban if you talk about alternative solutions such as hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin (some suggest that those were censored for off-patent but work better than vaccines). Exactly Universal Declaration of Human Rights Quote In 1948, the issue of the right to "conscience" was dealt with by the United Nations General Assembly in Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. It reads: Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance. Article 32 of the 1949 Geneva Convention IV Quote “mutilation and medical or scientific experiments not necessitated by the medical treatment of a protected person” are prohibited. Nuremburg Codes also not allow Mandatory vaccination Quote Nuremburg Code #1: Voluntary Consent is Essential No person should be forced to take a medical experiment without informed consent. Nuremburg Code #2: Yield Fruitful Results Unprocurable By Other Means The gene-therapy does not meet the criteria of a vaccine and does not offer immunity to the virus. Nuremburg Code #3: Base Experiments on Results of Animal Experimentation and Natural History of Disease This gene-therapy skipped animal testing and went straight to human trials Nuremburg Code #4: Avoid All Unnecessary Suffering and Injury Since the rollout of the U.S. experiment, the CDC VAERS reporting system cited lots of deaths and vaccine injuries. Same in EU and rest of world. This is a grievous violation of this code. Nuremburg Code #5: No Experiment to be Conducted if There’s Reason to Think Injury or Death Will Occur Based on the aforementioned deaths and side effects, this “gene-therapy” is injurious and must be banned. Nuremburg Code #6: Risk Should Never Exceed the Benefit COVID-19 has a 98-99% recovery rate. The vaccine deaths and adverse side-effects recklessly compete against this high natural recovery rate Nuremburg Code #7: Preparation Must Be Made Against Even Remote Possibility of Injury, Disability or Death There were no preparations made by Pfizer, Moderna or its backers. Nuremburg Code #8: Experiment Must Be Conducted by Scientifically Qualified Persons Politicians, media, and Hollywood actors claimed that these vaccines were “safe and effective,” but they were not qualified to judge. Nuremburg Code #9: Anyone Must Have the Freedom to Bring the Experiment to an End At Any Time Despite the outcry from more than 85,000 doctors, nurses, virologists, and epidemiologist, the experiment is not ending Nuremburg Code #10: The Scientist Must Bring the Experiment to an End At Any Time if There’s Probable Cause of it Resulting in Injury or Death It is clear in the statistical reporting data that this experiment is resulting in deaths and injuries. Yet all the politicians, drug companies, and so-called “experts,” are not making an Furthermore, to have any scientific significance a "gold standard" is required. In this case someone unvaccinated. You must be able to compare against, messure. x is better, longer as y. It is also a fact some people with "green covid card" did receive a saline injection. Lets not forget the fact vaccines are patented and anyone who is vaccineted falls under the definition of trans human. History, similarities between Jews in WW2 and the unvaccinated today told by an Auschwitz survivor! https://odysee.com/@realworldnews:d/similarities-between-jews-in-ww2-and-the-unvaccinated:9 Oh the good old days, no face mask needed. ... https://i.ibb.co/7SLHf2v/Un.jpg (https://ibb.co/QJtZgr9) take this (http://indepthnh.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/COVID-Report-from-Rep.-Weyler-3.pdf) too. this report suggests that more people are suffering worse after being vaccinated than being infected by any COVID variants. any vaccine fabricators decide to take the official responsibility on all those deaths led by the vaccines will expose a lot of confidential files they don't want us to see (which we are supposed to have rights to know) will ruin all other vaccine manufacturers, so they won't. this could be worse in China. Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: Cnut237 on December 08, 2021, 05:26:32 PM https://i.ibb.co/7SLHf2v/Un.jpg (https://ibb.co/QJtZgr9) Back in the '40s, a photograph was taken with a woman standing on the left, holding a bag, and a man standing on the right. And the same thing is happening RIGHT NOW! Therefore taking basic safety precautions to try to reduce the spread of a potentially deadly virus is... Worse. Than. Hitler. Does that capture your point quite well, or were you aiming for something else? Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: mindrust on December 08, 2021, 05:33:40 PM Talks in Europe are mentioning a vaccine mandate for everyone. Germany and Austria plan to have it mandatory starting from 1st of February. Other countries worldwide could follow. Imagine you don't have the covid vaccine and vaccines become mandatory. What would you do? -Accept -Flee -Rebel -Pay fine for each vaccine you miss -? Inspire us with your story. I wouldn't get it as long as I can. I wouldn't pay the fine neither. If it comes to that I would just get a vaccine cert without getting vaccinated. I am pretty sure I can fool a nurse, no biggie. They can't check everybody's blood and see if they are really vaccinated or not in the end. If that starts happening, then I suggest you to get lots of bullets and a gun. Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: tvbcof on December 08, 2021, 05:37:23 PM https://i.ibb.co/7SLHf2v/Un.jpg (https://ibb.co/QJtZgr9) Back in the '40s, a photograph was taken with a woman standing on the left, holding a bag, and a man standing on the right. And the same thing is happening RIGHT NOW! Therefore taking basic safety precautions to try to reduce the spread of a potentially deadly virus is... Worse. Than. Hitler. Does that capture your point quite well, or were you aiming for something else? You know that all of the top government doctors and scientists in Nazi Germany knew that the Jews and other riff-raff carried diseases, put the good people of Germany in danger, and needed to be isolated, right? Generally first to ghettos, then later to concentrated isolation facilities. Who could possibly argue against 'the science'? I'm hardly the first person to point this out, but anyone who ever wondered what they would do as a 'good German' in the 1930's now knows the answer complements of the so-called 'covid-19 pandemic' and corp/gov's setting the table. Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: Smartvirus on December 08, 2021, 10:56:25 PM -Accept Flee? Fleeing is one way to do it wrong and still, you try to move to somewhere else else hope that the vaccine won't get to be mandatory there but shortly after, a traveling and business infringement would push the nation to accepting Covid policies. Another thing is, you could travel and become a refugee! Your best option lies in playing just the same way as people in your locality but in doing that, ensure to be faced with other challenges that transcends pandemic politics.-Flee -Rebel -Pay fine for each vaccine you miss -? Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: Cnut237 on December 10, 2021, 07:37:45 AM ~ If you don't fancy the silicone arm, why not go for a full festive body suit? This thing is as sensible and realistic as any anti-vaxxer "data" source, so there shouldn't be any objection to it at all. And, given we're in mid-December, it's perfectly on-trend. And it's sure to be a big hit with the laydeez, too. Just buy one and turn up at the vaccination centre wearing it, then let us know how you got on. https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71YLuw2OJhL._AC_UY445_.jpg Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: TheNineClub on December 10, 2021, 05:44:50 PM Lets not forget the fact vaccines are patented and anyone who is vaccineted falls under the definition of trans human. Say what now? I am not able to connect how having something patented makes you a transhuman? And also, what's wrong with transhumanism? Via Wiki, Transhumanism is a philosophical and intellectual movement which advocates for the enhancement of the human condition by developing and making widely available sophisticated technologies able to greatly enhance longevity, mood and cognitive abilities, and predicts the emergence of such technologies in the future. making widely available sophisticated technologies able to greatly enhance longevity So, by that definition anyone that has ever been treated by a doctor, wears glasses or works in a modern age is a transhuman, because sophisticated technologies are, in fact, greatly enhancing longevity. In my neck of the woods, 99% of kids have been vaccinated in the past 60 or more years, and no one is fighting about it. I just don't see the difference between this vaccine and the others I received throughout my life. Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: Tash on December 10, 2021, 06:38:00 PM Lets not forget the fact vaccines are patented and anyone who is vaccineted falls under the definition of trans human. Say what now? I am not able to connect how having something patented makes you a transhuman? And also, what's wrong with transhumanism? ..... Nothing other than loosing all human rights as per US high court ruling. Patents have a owner. https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/12pdf/12-398_1b7d.pdf Traditional vaccines have nothing to do whit mRNA gene therapies, signature have a meaning. At this stage they literally spit in the face of the vaccinated and the sheep still dont get it https://twitter.com/i/status/1469185403873738756 Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: tvbcof on December 11, 2021, 09:03:56 AM ... In my neck of the woods, 99% of kids have been vaccinated in the past 60 or more years, and no one is fighting about it. I just don't see the difference between this vaccine and the others I received throughout my life. American IQ started dropping off a cliff in the mid-1970's and has never looked back. Looks to me like what happened was: - late 1960's - early 1970's: It was decided by the dynastic rulers that population growth and intellectual makeup among the pleb classes would be an existential problem for them, and injections were chosen as one of the solutions. - mid-late 1970's: initial injection dev work was done and programs rolled in. - early 1980's: immature science and rapidly increasing schedules resulted in a lot of carnage. Recall SIDS, and a significant general decline in health of younger people. - 1985: vax makers threatened to quite unless they got indemnity for any and all damages. They got it. - late 1980's - today: Fine tuning of the injects to reduce immediate and obvious physical impacts (e.g., dead by morning.) Schedules increase so kids are regularly dosed up and laws slowly adjusted to make them semi-mandatory for all but rich people who use private schools. Psychological operations ramped up to demonize 'anti-vaxxers' and generally foster love of corp/gov amongst the sheeple. Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: Tash on December 11, 2021, 09:19:52 AM Oh no, how you supposed to sell vaccines with this kind of study
https://medicine.wustl.edu/news/good-news-mild-covid-19-induces-lasting-antibody-protection/ bummer https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/307208 just gets worse https://m.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/coronavirus/most-reported-us-omicron-cases-have-hit-the-fully-vaccinated-cdc-688433/amp Bit aged by now Scientific study conducted by Harvard and Canadian researchers published in the European Journal of Epidemiology in August 2021 Increases in COVID‑19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 countries and 2947 counties in the United States https://archive.md/tpxhZ Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: Cnut237 on December 11, 2021, 09:43:47 AM American IQ started dropping off a cliff in the mid-1970's and has never looked back. [CITATION NEEDED] ... but when has that ever stopped you? If average IQ has genuinely fallen - and I'm not agreeing that it has - then the most obvious explanation would probably be an increasing level of cognitive decline due to an aging population. Population age is generally reported as a median, which obviously doesn't reveal everything, but median age in the US has certainly been increasing over the last few decades. Looks to me like what happened was: Sheeple? Scamdemic? Tiny robot Bill Gateseseseseses being injected into your bloodstream? But wouldn't that last one increase intelligence? Bill Gates may be* the devil incarnate, but he's quite intelligent, right? You don't get to be a demonic overlord if you're stupid. I mean, surely you wouldn't dispute that there's a strong positive correlation between evil geniuses and architects of fiendish master plans? * or may not be Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: im posible on December 11, 2021, 09:45:59 AM According to WHO, it takes about 60-70% of people who have been vaccinated to achieve herd immunity. And I want to wait until the deadline to include the 30-40% of the world's population who don't need to be vaccinated but are already protected from the corona virus because they have achieved herd immunity.
Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: tvbcof on December 11, 2021, 02:24:37 PM American IQ started dropping off a cliff in the mid-1970's and has never looked back. [CITATION NEEDED] ... but when has that ever stopped you? Pretty well scrubbed from the Internet: https://web.archive.org/web/20201013181848/https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-19/idiocracy-looms-study-finds-iq-scores-are-falling-due-social-media-central-banks Family studies indicate that the root cause is significantly environmental. Vaccines is, again, my hypothesis. If average IQ has genuinely fallen - and I'm not agreeing that it has - then the most obvious explanation would probably be an increasing level of cognitive decline due to an aging population. Population age is generally reported as a median, which obviously doesn't reveal everything, but median age in the US has certainly been increasing over the last few decades. Maybe try developing a basic understanding of something before spouting off about it. IQ is age adjusted by definition; the Q stands for 'quotient'. At least you are trying though, and that's a good thing. Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: BADecker on December 12, 2021, 12:08:39 AM Daniel 6:16-21:
Quote from: https://biblehub.com/daniel/6.htm 16So the king gave the order, and they brought Daniel and threw him into the den of lions. The king said to Daniel, “May your God, whom you serve continually, deliver you!” 17A stone was brought and placed over the mouth of the den, and the king sealed it with his own signet ring and with the rings of his nobles, so that nothing concerning Daniel could be changed. 18Then the king went to his palace and spent the night fasting. No entertainment was brought before him, and sleep fled from him. 19At the first light of dawn, the king got up and hurried to the den of lions. 20When he reached the den, he cried out in a voice of anguish, “O Daniel, servant of the living God, has your God, whom you serve continually, been able to deliver you from the lions?” 21Then Daniel replied, “O king, may you live forever! 22My God sent His angel and shut the mouths of the lions. They have not hurt me, for I was found innocent in His sight, and I have done no wrong against you, O king.” Daniel 3:13-29: Quote from: https://www.biblehub.com/niv/daniel/3.htm 13Furious with rage, Nebuchadnezzar summoned Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego. So these men were brought before the king, 14and Nebuchadnezzar said to them, “Is it true, Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, that you do not serve my gods or worship the image of gold I have set up? 15Now when you hear the sound of the horn, flute, zither, lyre, harp, pipe and all kinds of music, if you are ready to fall down and worship the image I made, very good. But if you do not worship it, you will be thrown immediately into a blazing furnace. Then what god will be able to rescue you from my hand?” 16Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego replied to him, “King Nebuchadnezzar, we do not need to defend ourselves before you in this matter. 17If we are thrown into the blazing furnace, the God we serve is able to deliver us from it, and he will deliver us from Your Majesty’s hand. 18But even if he does not, we want you to know, Your Majesty, that we will not serve your gods or worship the image of gold you have set up.” 19Then Nebuchadnezzar was furious with Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, and his attitude toward them changed. He ordered the furnace heated seven times hotter than usual 20and commanded some of the strongest soldiers in his army to tie up Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego and throw them into the blazing furnace. 21So these men, wearing their robes, trousers, turbans and other clothes, were bound and thrown into the blazing furnace. 22The king’s command was so urgent and the furnace so hot that the flames of the fire killed the soldiers who took up Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, 23and these three men, firmly tied, fell into the blazing furnace. 24Then King Nebuchadnezzar leaped to his feet in amazement and asked his advisers, “Weren’t there three men that we tied up and threw into the fire?” They replied, “Certainly, Your Majesty.” 25He said, “Look! I see four men walking around in the fire, unbound and unharmed, and the fourth looks like a son of the gods.” 26Nebuchadnezzar then approached the opening of the blazing furnace and shouted, “Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, servants of the Most High God, come out! Come here!” So Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego came out of the fire, 27and the satraps, prefects, governors and royal advisers crowded around them. They saw that the fire had not harmed their bodies, nor was a hair of their heads singed; their robes were not scorched, and there was no smell of fire on them. 28Then Nebuchadnezzar said, “Praise be to the God of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, who has sent his angel and rescued his servants! They trusted in him and defied the king’s command and were willing to give up their lives rather than serve or worship any god except their own God. 29Therefore I decree that the people of any nation or language who say anything against the God of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego be cut into pieces and their houses be turned into piles of rubble, for no other god can save in this way.” 8) Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: Cnut237 on December 12, 2021, 10:56:04 AM IQ is age adjusted by definition Are we talking about a population average, or an individual? And you need to decide whether you're talking about raw scores or adjusted scores. From your link: Quote A new study, published Monday by Norwegian researchers analyzed the IQ scores between 1962 and 1991 and found that scores increased by almost 3 percentage points each decade for those born between 1962 to 1975 - but then saw a steady decline among those born after 1975. So the decline is seen in kids <=16yo, but there is an increase amongst other age groups? I don't think it's a particularly compelling argument, particularly when they have to go back 30 years to find a study that says what they want it to say. Vaccines is, again, my hypothesis. My hypothesis is that someone who feels the need to use the pseudonym "Tyler Durden" might have an IQ that is somewhat lower than average, and is more concerned with superficial popular culture than facts. Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: Newlifebtc on December 12, 2021, 11:13:39 AM People that missed vaccination during this periods are likely to pay huge some for it when vaccination finally comes to an end.
Just as it was in the case of malaria,now people are paying sums to get malaria drugs. Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: Tash on December 12, 2021, 12:36:00 PM French have decided to fight the virus head on, more ways than one to fight this deathly virus https://twitter.com/i/status/1469698577165398021 Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: Tash on December 15, 2021, 06:59:02 AM You don't need to be vaccineded any longer to buy new underwear
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/victoria-s-vaccine-mandate-eased-as-nsw-records-1-360-covid-19-cases/a6702aa3-097c-4672-850a-0d8ca779f209 All that was needed is to deal with the liar. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/melbourne/article-10311281/Dan-Andrews-goes-leave-ordered-court-concealing-TREASON-fraud.html It want be mandatory, simple as that. https://youtu.be/gTh0-cbe9i4 https://i.ibb.co/Zm4ZBZy/Unt4.jpg (https://ibb.co/3z6JpJt) Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: Ultegra134 on December 15, 2021, 09:00:35 PM I got vaccinated in 1st of July, with the first dose of Pfizer, 21 days later, I also received my 2nd dose. Greece has now imposed a new law, fining anyone over 60 who is unvaccinated, starting from early January or February, if I'm not mistaken. Vaccines are necessary not only for our own personal safety, but also for the community as a whole. However, I'm not sure if making it mandatory with threats, the correct way in order to get people vaccinated, while a large percent are simple anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorists, there's also another percentage who might be afraid or be misled.
Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: tvbcof on December 16, 2021, 07:13:00 AM ... Greece has now imposed a new law, fining anyone over 60 who is unvaccinated, starting from early January or February, if I'm not mistaken. ... Welcome to 'austerity 2.0', bitches. Every dead and buried geriatric Greek translates to probably an extra dozen oz of gold in some 'international investor's pocket. More importantly to the younger local crowd, it translates to a new iphone once every 2 years instead of 4 under the 'universal basic income' scheme, and some extra virtual tokens for gaming. Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: Tash on December 16, 2021, 10:19:15 AM ... Greece has now imposed a new law, fining anyone over 60 who is unvaccinated, starting from early January or February, if I'm not mistaken. ... How dare someone thinking about collecting a pension and get a least some of the money back he/she got robbed of over the years. Better declare war on the people and fool them one last time. Legal definition of a mandate (https://www.librti.com/page/view-video?id=1002). https://i.ibb.co/30VcFQG/Unt.jpg (https://ibb.co/qRhpgVX) Interfractional Press Conference of EU MEPs https://youtu.be/giMOyvYCdT0 Enemy of the Debtor is the Creditor. (sucks to be a nocoiner/shitcoiner) https://youtu.be/Z5darasVaWM Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: af_newbie on December 16, 2021, 12:50:02 PM Talks in Europe are mentioning a vaccine mandate for everyone. Germany and Austria plan to have it mandatory starting from 1st of February. Other countries worldwide could follow. Imagine you don't have the covid vaccine and vaccines become mandatory. What would you do? -Accept -Flee -Rebel -Pay fine for each vaccine you miss -? Inspire us with your story. I got vaccinated in April/May as soon as they have made them available. I think all people should be vaccinated, whether they like it or not. Those who are not vaccinated should be denied health care, government services, and should be heavily taxed. Reverse exponential backoff taxation scheme anyone? You pay double the previous year's tax rate for every year you are not vaccinated. Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: tvbcof on December 16, 2021, 02:30:08 PM I got vaccinated in April/May as soon as they have made them available. I think all people should be vaccinated, whether they like it or not. Those who are not vaccinated should be denied health care, government services, and should be heavily taxed. Reverse exponential backoff taxation scheme anyone? You pay double the previous year's tax rate for every year you are not vaccinated. For every dollar I am fined in association with the scamdemic I plan to make a matching donation to a special fund directed towards taking care of the root cause of 'the problem'. Whichever 'fund managers' seem to be getting the most 'bang for the buck', so-to-speak, will see their coffers grow the most. That's how the 'free market' works. Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: Tash on December 16, 2021, 04:55:52 PM There is always the option moving to a Amish neighbourhood, no testing, no mask, no medical experimental shots every 3 months. https://youtu.be/O1DgWYdukZU Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: Masplanc on January 06, 2022, 12:49:39 PM Vaccines getting mandatory is not possible and right it against the law, things like this you can't force people to take it. The only thing that can be done is restrict people who haven't taking vaccination from certain exercises . But forcing people to take it by all means is not right, like in my country if one is not vaccinated you can't sit for professional exams in the state.
Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: tvbcof on January 06, 2022, 03:00:13 PM Vaccines getting mandatory is not possible and right it against the law, things like this you can't force people to take it. The only thing that can be done is restrict people who haven't taking vaccination from certain exercises . But forcing people to take it by all means is not right, like in my country if one is not vaccinated you can't sit for professional exams in the state. Don't sweat it. Take a year off and work in the countryside planting rice or whatever, and musing about things. Over this time the professionals who took the mark, and those who took it trying to become one, will be either dead or seriously neurologically degraded to the point where they cannot do their jobs. The job market will be super tight. Who knows, maybe after a year of bucking hay (the menial hard labor in my area of my home country) and letting your mind wander, you may decide not to be a paper-pusher for the corrupt state after all. And if you can stay an organic pure-blood rather than be converted into a GMO, you might have a whole new world of options. A related phenomenon happened with the nurses in the U.S.. They got run out because they wouldn't take the depop shot (after witnessing what it did to their co-workers and patients.) Lasted a month or two, and they are now re-signing to take the places of their fallen comrades. Hopefully they are bargaining hard for new terms and making the shit-bag hospital corporations pay them a LOT more than they were earning. If I was one of them, I'd not be in any hurry to re-sign since their hand will only become stronger and stronger. They may accelerate the hiring of foreign staff, but that phenomenon will occur anyway, and they're probably already scraping the bottom of the barrel. --- BTW, I was the lone voice of many advising a particular undergrad here to blow his tuition money on BTC speculation rather than getting some useless college degree. I think he actually did go that route too. That was back in 2014 or so, so people can imagine how the guy made out. One thing which was NOT on my mind in making this advisory was trying to pump BTC. In fact I advised that it would probably result in a full loss, but the risk/reward ratio was good that the loss of a quarter or two of state sponsored education was no big deal. In fact it would probably be a net positive contributing to more success in life. Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: Tash on January 06, 2022, 06:05:34 PM You can flee to North Korea and apply for asylum if things deteriorate further in your country South Korea's military says 1 person illegally crossed the border in a rare defection to North Korea https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1477470626382327810 Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: tvbcof on January 06, 2022, 06:28:18 PM You can flee to North Korea and apply for asylum if things deteriorate further in your country South Korea's military says 1 person illegally crossed the border in a rare defection to North Korea https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1477470626382327810 LOL! That's fuckin' awesome! I've said for a long time, and I think even on this board, that a basket-case country having no resources could easily become one of the power-house nations going forward by simply opening their arms to wealthy and high proficiency persons who wanted to escape the madness in their countries of origin. One welcome crypto-currency as well of course. The trouble is that they would have to make a credible guarantee that things would remain that way for a significant amount of time and that would be hard to do. I'll wager that a lot the people who might re-locate to such a nation could and would bring a fair bit of knowledge of 'where the bodies are buried' in addition to a fuck-load of cash. That kind of info is probably more powerful defensively than nukes. It would likely be the case that the path of least resistance for annoyed globalist dominated nations would be just to leave them alone. Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: _Miracle on January 08, 2022, 04:59:56 AM I got a 3rd dose last week and continue to write letters to my legislators against covid-vaccine mandates.
Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: Tash on January 09, 2022, 05:15:35 PM 56 German doctors cite 7 excellent arguments against mandatory vaccination https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/56-german-doctors-cite-7-excellent https://authintel.com/covidresources/7%20arguments%20against%20compulsory%20vaccination.pdf ✔ The SARS-CoV2 pandemic will not be ended by vaccination ✔ The risk potential of vaccines is too high ✔ The risk potential of multiple doses ofSARS-CoV-2 vaccinations is insufficiently researched ✔ The general obligation to vaccinate withthe currently conditionally approved COVID19 vaccinesviolates constitutional law ✔ The overload of hospitals by COVID19 patients is not clearly proven by the statistical data ✔ Measures other than vaccination are not exhausted ✔ Mandatory COVID19 vaccination is forcing social conflicts I got a 3rd dose last week and continue to write letters to my legislators against covid-vaccine mandates. You can look for your lot number to see how bad you scored in the Russian roulette shot. Make sure for the next shot to pay enough to get good lot number. Saving on the wrong spot can be very bad in this situation. https://howbad.info/ A lot of unfortunate people https://healthimpactnews.com/2022/36257-deaths-and-3244052-injuries-following-covid-shots-in-european-database-double-vaxxed-13-year-old-dies-from-heart-attack/ Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: Gosgosking on January 10, 2022, 08:45:56 AM It cannot be possible for vaccine to be mandatory, it is wrong to force it on people, people have there right. Making vaccine mandatory is against the law. Taking vaccine should be a thing of choice to every individual , in this case the vaccine is like a medicine, no one can force anybody to take medicine. It is a thing of choice and decisions.
Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: tvbcof on January 10, 2022, 09:03:11 AM I got a 3rd dose last week and continue to write letters to my legislators against covid-vaccine mandates. Yeah, sure you do. It cannot be possible for vaccine to be mandatory, it is wrong to force it on people, people have there right. Making vaccine mandatory is against the law. Taking vaccine should be a thing of choice to every individual , in this case the vaccine is like a medicine, no one can force anybody to take medicine. It is a thing of choice and decisions. To some of my lefty friends and family, have a 'choice' between getting the govt mandated jab or getting a govt assigned bullet to the head is still a 'choice' and one has 'freedom' to make that 'decision.' All for the 'greater good' of course. Actually, a 'bullet to the head' is fairly radical and most don't support it yet, but it's not hard to predict where the spell will take their minds within a month or two. They certainly have no problem depriving 'non-compliant' of a means of livelihood and the ability to feed their family already, and seem genuinely get off on putting 'the other' into a position where they have to make that 'choice'. Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: Cnut237 on January 10, 2022, 10:31:10 AM To some of my lefty friends I'm very sceptical that you have lefty friends. Actually, a 'bullet to the head' is fairly radical and most don't support it yet, but it's not hard to predict where the spell will take their minds within a month or two. Whenever this sort of 'solution' is raised as a possibility, the person raising it is always from the anti-vaxxer / Trump fanboi set. You don't need to worry about your 'lefty friends' going on a shooting spree. Taking vaccine should be a thing of choice to every individual , in this case the vaccine is like a medicine, no one can force anybody to take medicine. It is a thing of choice and decisions. Imagine you are driving a car, and have no passengers. Two things you can do to increase your chance of death are i) not wearing a seatbelt, and ii) downing a bottle of scotch before you get behind the wheel. Option i is perhaps an individual liberty issue, option ii is certainly not. If your action increases the chance of other people dying, then it is not about individual liberty. The purpose of vaccination is to protect everybody. If you are less likely to contract and transmit the virus, you are less likely to infect and kill other people. Take the vaccine. Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: tvbcof on January 10, 2022, 11:53:12 AM To some of my lefty friends I'm very sceptical that you have lefty friends. I was pretty hard-core 'left' even within the lifetime of this message board. That is default for a West Coaster, and I was in the 'hippy culture' as a kid. Honestly, much of what I believed back then I still do, but the whole 'Overton window' shifted into utter la-la land when the real problems were significantly resolved (pollution, equal rights, etc.) We who saw and spoke about the structural weaknesses inherent in capitalism were certainly not ipso-facto 'communist' back in the old days, and definitions of things such as 'socialism' have changed a lot since then. We just wanted to fairly address some of the inevitable issues that would arise with, say, capitalism (and specifically cronyism and corruption in this case.) Obviously (to me) a very nasty element of the 0.001% saw an opportunity to take over the 'left' and use it to their also very nasty ends. This they did, and I stepped off the train before the velocities got too high. Anyway, yeah, most of my friends and family were on that train and never did get off. It would be semi-fair to say I have no friends at all really. I work with people and like people, but in terms of flesh-n-blood humans to toss ideas and observations around with, there are basically none. Partly because I expatriated to the 'developing world.' Thankfully I've always been pretty independent in this respect anyway. Actually, a 'bullet to the head' is fairly radical and most don't support it yet, but it's not hard to predict where the spell will take their minds within a month or two. Whenever this sort of 'solution' is raised as a possibility, the person raising it is always from the anti-vaxxer / Trump fanboi set. You don't need to worry about your 'lefty friends' going on a shooting spree. I know plenty of 'red-necks' as well, and I have a pretty good gauge of the respective mentalities. I'm not too worried about the 'lefties' doing atrocities in person, but I can pretty much guarantee that they would be in full support of their gov/god/protector doing so and would lend a hand if it is not to much trouble. Snitching on their neighbors, trying to get them fired ('canceled'), lying for their truth, etc. They are most of the way to fully support of autrocities already. I should say that the 30% that are under the plandemic spell because most of the real 'lefties' stepped off the train when I did. The people you think are the 'Trump fanboi set' are very no where near as likely to support atrocities (though perhaps somewhat more likely to commit them in person if/when pushed hard enough by the so-called 'left'.) Edit: Here's a couple of fellow 'gen-Xers' who are in a similar boat, and who've seen/felt the same sort of shifts that I have: https://www.bitchute.com/video/YIgNhGioCmVt/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/YIgNhGioCmVt/) Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: Cnut237 on January 10, 2022, 04:25:02 PM ~ Thanks, that's some interesting context. the structural weaknesses inherent in capitalism [...] cronyism [...] corruption I think democratic capitalism, for all its flaws, is the best system we can have. The main reason I favour left-of-centre politicians is because a right-of-centre government simply acts as an enabler and accelerator of the endemic flaws... whereas the left acts (or should act) as a much-needed brake.I'm not too worried about the 'lefties' doing atrocities in person, but I can pretty much guarantee that they would be in full support of their gov/god/protector doing so In my country - and I believe also in the US - the two main political parties are very similar; there is a consensus between them on most things, with only minor differences. I'm not at all convinced that a 'lefty' would rise up on command to do Biden's bidding. Maybe they'd be more likely to if Bernie Sanders was running things, but then I can't imagine him advocating gun-waving lunacy.Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: acener on January 13, 2022, 06:05:21 PM It is being mandatory now in the Philippines and my answer for it would be simple,
I would be vaccinated since we would need a proof of vaccination if we want to go out buy things or even enter some places that we want to or need to go. We don't have any option now since we couldn't just stay inside our home for the rest of our life. Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: tvbcof on January 13, 2022, 07:18:40 PM It is being mandatory now in the Philippines and my answer for it would be simple, I would be vaccinated since we would need a proof of vaccination if we want to go out buy things or even enter some places that we want to or need to go. We don't have any option now since we couldn't just stay inside our home for the rest of our life. So far, in the areas I have some knowledge of, the directives have been all talk and no observable action (other than lamestream media propaganda.) Seems like it's primarily undertaken to get people to throw up their hands and resign themselves to a pre-determined fate. Alas, many people have done just that. They will be missed. The country was one of those specifically identified as being in the high priority national security interest of the U.S. and targeted for population density management for that reason. Basically we (the U.S. at that time) wanted a reliable supply of cheap resources, and 'overpopulation' would complicate that. I'm fairly convinced that they did undergo a round of covert female sterilization via the 'tetanus' operation. To the nation's credit, it was a Filipina doctor who figured it out (when she herself got hit) and they took a decades long break before they tried it again in Kenya. (Development of the 'platform' was done primarily in India.) Anyway, my sense is that a noticeable number of people (at least rural living people in high-resource areas) are naturally suspicious of the 'vitamin shots' that the 'public health' authorities come around to administer to the kiddies, but not a one of them can put their finger on the specifics of why they have that spidy-sense. Anyway, I do hope that given the sordid history of 'assistance' to The Philippines in particular, there will be somewhat more resistance to the de-pop shot and with some good luck there will be enough survivors to defend their homeland and keep control of some of their resources as we enter into the '4th industrial revolution' and 'great reset' and 'new normal'. Fingers crossed. Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: belRiose on January 13, 2022, 10:26:34 PM Here in the U.S. as of today 2022-01-13, it's a moot point.
The Supreme Court just ruled that the Federal mandate via OSHA regulation is unconstitutional Seen on a sign today: "If the pharmaceutical companies didn't know that the vaccine would not protect against emerging new variants of the COVID virus, then how can they be so sure that it will not cause serious health risks into the future?" Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: OgNasty on January 13, 2022, 10:36:28 PM I love the word mandatory. It allows me to show people how powerless they are in influencing my personal decisions. As an American, it's absolutely hilarious that people think the government forcing anything on it's entire population is even a possibility. I'm seeing all these videos out of the EU of police carting old ladies off the streets and taking them to jail for not having their paperwork on them. All I can say is where I live that isn't even a concern... Our supreme court wouldn't ever allow such stupidity from our leadership and if they did my local community sure wouldn't comply. This is why we as Americans cling to our gun rights so strongly. It's important for the government to understand they work for us, not the other way around. Employers don't take orders from employees and the government is funded by it's citizens... At least until the liberals are able to enslave us all with universal income...
Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: Gyfts on January 13, 2022, 10:51:20 PM Our supreme court wouldn't ever allow such stupidity from our leadership and if they did my local community sure wouldn't comply. Concerning thing is that they voted 6-3 to strike down a vaccine mandate. For 3 judges it is apparently logical and constitutional for a vaccine mandate imposed by the government for "worker protection" through whatever "OSHA" does. You think it would be a straight 9-0 decision. And for the healthcare worker mandate, that in fact passed by a 5-4 vote. But most hospitals had already mandated it anyways, so it didn't matter. Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: belRiose on January 13, 2022, 11:32:40 PM I love the word mandatory. It allows me to show people how powerless they are in influencing my personal decisions. As an American, it's absolutely hilarious that people think the government forcing anything on it's entire population is even a possibility. I'm seeing all these videos out of the EU of police carting old ladies off the streets and taking them to jail for not having their paperwork on them. All I can say is where I live that isn't even a concern... Our supreme court wouldn't ever allow such stupidity from our leadership and if they did my local community sure wouldn't comply. This is why we as Americans cling to our gun rights so strongly. It's important for the government to understand they work for us, not the other way around. Employers don't take orders from employees and the government is funded by it's citizens... At least until the liberals are able to enslave us all with universal income... I absolutely agree.. However, the Federal government still penalizes individuals heavily via income-tax to force you to have health insurance. The day that law was passed in 2012, the republic died. And they now force you to report the mere possession of cryptocurrencies (assuming you are a person liable to file an income-tax form). Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: JustEducated on January 17, 2022, 10:07:43 AM This post reminds me of a meme I saw online about how the world is divided into two set of people.
FIRST SET: Those who are vaccinated and waiting for those that are not vaccinated to die. SECOND SET: Thoe who are not vaccinated and waiting for those that are vaccinated to die. Quote Imagine you don't have the covid vaccine and vaccines become mandatory. What would you do? If It becomes mandatory, I simply just stressed out my arm take the shots and walk out of there no big deal.Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: libertasbella on January 17, 2022, 10:55:53 PM Imagine you don't have the covid vaccine Why? But if you really think you're wronged by the government, the only realistic option is to vote. All that "rebel" shit will be nipped in the bud as it always is. That rebel shit birthed the United States not 250 years ago. Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: tvbcof on January 18, 2022, 03:23:45 PM For all you peeps who thought 'Universal Basic Income' was the way to go, just know that a somewhat selective population adjustment is a necessary prerequisite. Those who could not figure out a way to avoid the jab are somewhat strongly correlated with those who will end up being on the sucking-the-teat side of a UBI scheme. At the current ratios a UBI scheme would be DOA. Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: Tash on January 18, 2022, 05:14:54 PM UBI yes Pigs also enjoy all the goodness of it
Eat as much and often as you like Have a roof over the head Free vaccinations Top comradery Sleep as long as you like Only one really bad day (two if you male) https://i.ibb.co/Z2wkMdY/Un.jpg (https://imgbb.com/) Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: Dunamisx on January 26, 2022, 01:23:20 PM As a current time, covid 19 vaccine is made compulsory in other to perform one or two things as such in overseas travelling, international congress meeting, political contest, puplic appearance and most social and corporate gatherings has mandated the vaccination be done before getting involved in their activities.
There's nothing to do in such situation rather than to stay put by avoiding large gathering, and get restricted to doing certain things such as traveling. But remember its risky when not vaccinated, ones immune system can be vulnerable to any attack from disease or the corona virus itself. Title: Re: Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory? Post by: Mometaskers on January 29, 2022, 04:15:24 PM I got the "full" dose which is 2 shots so I'm fine with the authorities, for now. They've announce banning unvaxxed people from public transport (and in this poor country pretty much most of use it) to "encourage" them to take it. We don't exactly have anyone opposing that here.
If they extend it to make even boosters mandatory, that's where I'd stop doing as they say. I'd just find ways to avoid having to travel. I'm assuming people would just adapt by doing the good ole carpool - assuming they don't start going after private motorists too. |
