Share your story: what would you do when vaccines get mandatory?

[tvbcof]

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Greece has now imposed a new law, fining anyone over 60 who is unvaccinated, starting from early January or February, if I'm not mistaken. ...

Welcome to 'austerity 2.0', bitches.  Every dead and buried geriatric Greek translates to probably an extra dozen oz of gold in some 'international investor's pocket.

More importantly to the younger local crowd, it translates to a new iphone once every 2 years instead of 4 under the 'universal basic income' scheme, and some extra virtual tokens for gaming.

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[Tash]

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Greece has now imposed a new law, fining anyone over 60 who is unvaccinated, starting from early January or February, if I'm not mistaken. ...

How dare someone thinking about collecting a pension and get a least some of the money back he/she got robbed of over the years.
Better declare war on the people and fool them one last time. Legal definition of a mandate.




Interfractional Press Conference of EU MEPs
https://youtu.be/giMOyvYCdT0

Enemy of the Debtor is the Creditor. (sucks to be a nocoiner/shitcoiner)
https://youtu.be/Z5darasVaWM

[af_newbie]

Talks in Europe are mentioning a vaccine mandate for everyone. Germany and Austria plan to have it mandatory starting from 1st of February. Other countries worldwide could follow.

Imagine you don't have the covid vaccine and vaccines become mandatory. What would you do?

-Accept
-Flee
-Rebel
-Pay fine for each vaccine you miss
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Inspire us with your story.

I got vaccinated in April/May as soon as they have made them available.

I think all people should be vaccinated, whether they like it or not.

Those who are not vaccinated should be denied health care, government services, and should be heavily taxed.

Reverse exponential backoff taxation scheme anyone?  You pay double the previous year's tax rate for every year you are not vaccinated.

[tvbcof]

I got vaccinated in April/May as soon as they have made them available.

I think all people should be vaccinated, whether they like it or not.

Those who are not vaccinated should be denied health care, government services, and should be heavily taxed.

Reverse exponential backoff taxation scheme anyone?  You pay double the previous year's tax rate for every year you are not vaccinated.

For every dollar I am fined in association with the scamdemic I plan to make a matching donation to a special fund directed towards taking care of the root cause of 'the problem'.  Whichever 'fund managers' seem to be getting the most 'bang for the buck', so-to-speak, will see their coffers grow the most.  That's how the 'free market' works.

[Tash]

There is always the option moving to a Amish neighbourhood, no testing, no mask, no medical experimental shots every 3 months.
https://youtu.be/O1DgWYdukZU

[Masplanc]

Vaccines getting mandatory is not possible and right it against the law, things like this you can't force people to take it. The only thing that can be done is restrict people who haven't taking vaccination from certain exercises . But forcing people to take it by all means is not right, like in my country if one is not vaccinated you can't sit for professional exams in the state.

[tvbcof]

Vaccines getting mandatory is not possible and right it against the law, things like this you can't force people to take it. The only thing that can be done is restrict people who haven't taking vaccination from certain exercises . But forcing people to take it by all means is not right, like in my country if one is not vaccinated you can't sit for professional exams in the state.

Don't sweat it.  Take a year off and work in the countryside planting rice or whatever, and musing about things.  Over this time the professionals who took the mark, and those who took it trying to become one, will be either dead or seriously neurologically degraded to the point where they cannot do their jobs.  The job market will be super tight.

Who knows, maybe after a year of bucking hay (the menial hard labor in my area of my home country) and letting your mind wander, you may decide not to be a paper-pusher for the corrupt state after all.  And if you can stay an organic pure-blood rather than be converted into a GMO, you might have a whole new world of options.

A related phenomenon happened with the nurses in the U.S..  They got run out because they wouldn't take the depop shot (after witnessing what it did to their co-workers and patients.)  Lasted a month or two, and they are now re-signing to take the places of their fallen comrades.  Hopefully they are bargaining hard for new terms and making the shit-bag hospital corporations pay them a LOT more than they were earning.  If I was one of them, I'd not be in any hurry to re-sign since their hand will only become stronger and stronger.  They may accelerate the hiring of foreign staff, but that phenomenon will occur anyway, and they're probably already scraping the bottom of the barrel.

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BTW, I was the lone voice of many advising a particular undergrad here to blow his tuition money on BTC speculation rather than getting some useless college degree.  I think he actually did go that route too.  That was back in 2014 or so, so people can imagine how the guy made out.

One thing which was NOT on my mind in making this advisory was trying to pump BTC.  In fact I advised that it would probably result in a full loss, but the risk/reward ratio was good that the loss of a quarter or two of state sponsored education was no big deal.  In fact it would probably be a net positive contributing to more success in life.

[Tash]

You can flee to North Korea and apply for asylum if things deteriorate further in your country
South Korea's military says 1 person illegally crossed the border in a rare defection to North Korea
https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1477470626382327810

[tvbcof]

You can flee to North Korea and apply for asylum if things deteriorate further in your country
South Korea's military says 1 person illegally crossed the border in a rare defection to North Korea
https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1477470626382327810

LOL! That's fuckin' awesome!  I've said for a long time, and I think even on this board, that a basket-case country having no resources could easily become one of the power-house nations going forward by simply opening their arms to wealthy and high proficiency persons who wanted to escape the madness in their countries of origin.  One welcome crypto-currency as well of course.  The trouble is that they would have to make a credible guarantee that things would remain that way for a significant amount of time and that would be hard to do.

I'll wager that a lot the people who might re-locate to such a nation could and would bring a fair bit of knowledge of 'where the bodies are buried' in addition to a fuck-load of cash.  That kind of info is probably more powerful defensively than nukes.  It would likely be the case that the path of least resistance for annoyed globalist dominated nations would be just to leave them alone.

[_Miracle]

I got a 3rd dose last week and continue to write letters to my legislators against covid-vaccine mandates.

[Tash]

56 German doctors cite 7 excellent arguments against mandatory vaccination
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/56-german-doctors-cite-7-excellent

https://authintel.com/covidresources/7%20arguments%20against%20compulsory%20vaccination.pdf
✔ The SARS-CoV2 pandemic will not be ended by vaccination
✔ The risk potential of vaccines is too high
✔ The risk potential of multiple doses ofSARS-CoV-2 vaccinations is  insufficiently researched
✔ The general obligation to vaccinate withthe currently conditionally approved COVID19 vaccinesviolates constitutional law
✔ The overload of hospitals by COVID19 patients is not clearly proven by the statistical data
✔ Measures other than vaccination are not exhausted
✔ Mandatory COVID19 vaccination is forcing social conflicts

I got a 3rd dose last week and continue to write letters to my legislators against covid-vaccine mandates.

You can look for your lot number to see how bad you scored in the Russian roulette shot. Make sure for the next shot to pay enough to get good lot number. Saving on the wrong spot can be very bad in this situation.
https://howbad.info/

A lot of unfortunate people
https://healthimpactnews.com/2022/36257-deaths-and-3244052-injuries-following-covid-shots-in-european-database-double-vaxxed-13-year-old-dies-from-heart-attack/

[Gosgosking]

It cannot be possible for vaccine to be mandatory,  it is wrong to force it on people,  people have there right. Making vaccine mandatory is against the law. Taking vaccine should be a thing of choice to every individual , in this case the vaccine is like a medicine,  no one can force anybody to take medicine. It is a thing of choice and decisions.

[tvbcof]

I got a 3rd dose last week and continue to write letters to my legislators against covid-vaccine mandates.

Yeah, sure you do.

It cannot be possible for vaccine to be mandatory,  it is wrong to force it on people,  people have there right. Making vaccine mandatory is against the law. Taking vaccine should be a thing of choice to every individual , in this case the vaccine is like a medicine,  no one can force anybody to take medicine. It is a thing of choice and decisions.

To some of my lefty friends and family, have a 'choice' between getting the govt mandated jab or getting a govt assigned bullet to the head is still a 'choice' and one has 'freedom' to make that 'decision.'  All for the 'greater good' of course.

Actually, a 'bullet to the head' is fairly radical and most don't support it yet, but it's not hard to predict where the spell will take their minds within a month or two.  They certainly have no problem depriving 'non-compliant' of a means of livelihood and the ability to feed their family already, and seem genuinely get off on putting 'the other' into a position where they have to make that 'choice'.

[Cnut237]

To some of my lefty friends

I'm very sceptical that you have lefty friends.

Actually, a 'bullet to the head' is fairly radical and most don't support it yet, but it's not hard to predict where the spell will take their minds within a month or two.

Whenever this sort of 'solution' is raised as a possibility, the person raising it is always from the anti-vaxxer / Trump fanboi set. You don't need to worry about your 'lefty friends' going on a shooting spree.

Taking vaccine should be a thing of choice to every individual , in this case the vaccine is like a medicine,  no one can force anybody to take medicine. It is a thing of choice and decisions.

Imagine you are driving a car, and have no passengers. Two things you can do to increase your chance of death are i) not wearing a seatbelt, and ii) downing a bottle of scotch before you get behind the wheel.
Option i is perhaps an individual liberty issue, option ii is certainly not. If your action increases the chance of other people dying, then it is not about individual liberty. The purpose of vaccination is to protect everybody. If you are less likely to contract and transmit the virus, you are less likely to infect and kill other people. Take the vaccine.

[tvbcof]

To some of my lefty friends

I'm very sceptical that you have lefty friends.

I was pretty hard-core 'left' even within the lifetime of this message board.  That is default for a West Coaster, and I was in the 'hippy culture' as a kid.  Honestly, much of what I believed back then I still do, but the whole 'Overton window' shifted into utter la-la land when the real problems were significantly resolved (pollution, equal rights, etc.)  We who saw and spoke about the structural weaknesses inherent in capitalism were certainly not ipso-facto 'communist' back in the old days, and definitions of things such as 'socialism' have changed a lot since then.  We just wanted to fairly address some of the inevitable issues that would arise with, say, capitalism (and specifically cronyism and corruption in this case.)

Obviously (to me) a very nasty element of the 0.001% saw an opportunity to take over the 'left' and use it to their also very nasty ends.  This they did, and I stepped off the train before the velocities got too high.  Anyway, yeah, most of my friends and family were on that train and never did get off.  It would be semi-fair to say I have no friends at all really.  I work with people and like people, but in terms of flesh-n-blood humans to toss ideas and observations around with, there are basically none.  Partly because I expatriated to the 'developing world.'  Thankfully I've always been pretty independent in this respect anyway.

Actually, a 'bullet to the head' is fairly radical and most don't support it yet, but it's not hard to predict where the spell will take their minds within a month or two.

Whenever this sort of 'solution' is raised as a possibility, the person raising it is always from the anti-vaxxer / Trump fanboi set. You don't need to worry about your 'lefty friends' going on a shooting spree.

I know plenty of 'red-necks' as well, and I have a pretty good gauge of the respective mentalities.  I'm not too worried about the 'lefties' doing atrocities in person, but I can pretty much guarantee that they would be in full support of their gov/god/protector doing so and would lend a hand if it is not to much trouble.  Snitching on their neighbors, trying to get them fired ('canceled'), lying for their truth, etc.  They are most of the way to fully support of autrocities already.  I should say that the 30% that are under the plandemic spell because most of the real 'lefties' stepped off the train when I did.  The people you think are the 'Trump fanboi set' are very no where near as likely to support atrocities (though perhaps somewhat more likely to commit them in person if/when pushed hard enough by the so-called 'left'.)

Edit:  Here's a couple of fellow 'gen-Xers' who are in a similar boat, and who've seen/felt the same sort of shifts that I have:  https://www.bitchute.com/video/YIgNhGioCmVt/

[Cnut237]

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Thanks, that's some interesting context.

the structural weaknesses inherent in capitalism [...] cronyism [...] corruption

I think democratic capitalism, for all its flaws, is the best system we can have. The main reason I favour left-of-centre politicians is because a right-of-centre government simply acts as an enabler and accelerator of the endemic flaws... whereas the left acts (or should act) as a much-needed brake.

I'm not too worried about the 'lefties' doing atrocities in person, but I can pretty much guarantee that they would be in full support of their gov/god/protector doing so

In my country - and I believe also in the US - the two main political parties are very similar; there is a consensus between them on most things, with only minor differences. I'm not at all convinced that a 'lefty' would rise up on command to do Biden's bidding. Maybe they'd be more likely to if Bernie Sanders was running things, but then I can't imagine him advocating gun-waving lunacy.

[acener]

It is being mandatory now in the Philippines and my answer for it would be simple,
I would be vaccinated since we would need a proof of vaccination if we want to go out buy things or even enter some places that we want to or need to go.
We don't have any option now since we couldn't just stay inside our home for the rest of our life.

[tvbcof]

It is being mandatory now in the Philippines and my answer for it would be simple,
I would be vaccinated since we would need a proof of vaccination if we want to go out buy things or even enter some places that we want to or need to go.
We don't have any option now since we couldn't just stay inside our home for the rest of our life.

So far, in the areas I have some knowledge of, the directives have been all talk and no observable action (other than lamestream media propaganda.)  Seems like it's primarily undertaken to get people to throw up their hands and resign themselves to a pre-determined fate.  Alas, many people have done just that.  They will be missed.

The country was one of those specifically identified as being in the high priority national security interest of the U.S. and targeted for population density management for that reason.  Basically we (the U.S. at that time) wanted a reliable supply of cheap resources, and 'overpopulation' would complicate that.  I'm fairly convinced that they did undergo a round of covert female sterilization via the 'tetanus' operation.  To the nation's credit, it was a Filipina doctor who figured it out (when she herself got hit) and they took a decades long break before they tried it again in Kenya.  (Development of the 'platform' was done primarily in India.)  Anyway, my sense is that a noticeable number of people (at least rural living people in high-resource areas) are naturally suspicious of the 'vitamin shots' that the 'public health' authorities come around to administer to the kiddies, but not a one of them can put their finger on the specifics of why they have that spidy-sense.

Anyway, I do hope that given the sordid history of 'assistance' to The Philippines in particular, there will be somewhat more resistance to the de-pop shot and with some good luck there will be enough survivors to defend their homeland and keep control of some of their resources as we enter into the '4th industrial revolution' and 'great reset' and 'new normal'.  Fingers crossed.

[belRiose]

Here in the U.S. as of today 2022-01-13, it's a moot point.
The Supreme Court just ruled that the Federal mandate via OSHA regulation is unconstitutional


Seen on a sign today:
"If the pharmaceutical companies didn't know that the vaccine would not protect against emerging new variants of the COVID virus, then how can they be so sure that it will not cause serious health risks into the future?"

[OgNasty]

I love the word mandatory.  It allows me to show people how powerless they are in influencing my personal decisions.  As an American, it's absolutely hilarious that people think the government forcing anything on it's entire population is even a possibility.  I'm seeing all these videos out of the EU of police carting old ladies off the streets and taking them to jail for not having their paperwork on them.  All I can say is where I live that isn't even a concern...  Our supreme court wouldn't ever allow such stupidity from our leadership and if they did my local community sure wouldn't comply.  This is why we as Americans cling to our gun rights so strongly.  It's important for the government to understand they work for us, not the other way around.  Employers don't take orders from employees and the government is funded by it's citizens... At least until the liberals are able to enslave us all with universal income...